zealot-class

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-cute-funny-animals-gif-21111647

[elfin thorn]

toughness

[carmine lance]

I love how insane the overkill damage I'm pulling is with the zealot build I'm running

for melee only

[elfin thorn]

gotta love overkill damage

a misspell of damage turned into same. thanks autocorrect

[carmine lance]

indeed lol

[elfin thorn]

what build ya got going?

[glossy nimbus]

playing with cops again

nice

I wish I was using the other mark of my chain axe

[elfin thorn]

which one?

[glossy nimbus]

the one that shreds for a min

im using the one that does a clean swing

[elfin thorn]

not sure what clean swing means

you mean you swing and it doesn't rev?

[north sedge]

i prefer the mk4, mk12 lights are pretty limp

[elfin thorn]

yeah i've been hearing alot of praise for mk4

normally a mark like mk12 i would enjoy, but i like the horde clear moveset too much of mk4

and mk4 revved heavy is about the same dmg as mk12 so eh

[gaunt roost]

#zealot-class picture day

[north sedge]

and mk4 lights do a ton of dmg so you dont have to really rev it much

[lethal sedge]

Why does my flamer do such low damage but everyone says it's good

Why does my flamer do such low damage but everyone says it's good

[gaunt roost]

he is yellow because he is overlapping another objects clearance, clipping may occur

[formal umbra]

Are you trying to use it for single target or something?

[gaunt roost]

it scales with enemy density, its supposed to kill 100 ragers in 10 seconds, not 1 rager in 10 seconds

[lethal sedge]

how do i not die while firing for 10 seconds

[formal umbra]

Dodge

Or just put it away after firing for a bit

[lethal sedge]

i saw someone with a cool hat but its not the tricorn one it was like a top hat alsmost how do i get that

[north sedge]

What stats do you have on it

[formal umbra]

Usually cash shop items unfortunately

It's a rotating shop so idk when that hat will come back

[lethal sedge]

dar

[carmine lance]

uh one sec

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff8e3b8-8ea5-4bcd-8388-8cb6738b13a9/boss-deletion this but with relic blade

[median bramble]

is there a certain weirdness with eviscerators and dodging once youre chainsawing

[carmine lance]

wdym

[median bramble]

i feel kinda stuck in place?

i was chainsawing one crusher and went to dodge an overhead and still got hit

i havent played eviscerator in a long time

(or zealot)

just a lot of the time i get hit by something i think i should of dodged, im usually chainsawing

[hexed igloo]

Low damage but spread across 60 enemies at once

[hard nexus]

have burn at 76% or above

right click, hold down left click

burn damage is exponential

it takes a moment for it to ramp up but you can kill everything except crushers and bosses in less than a magazine

[hexed igloo]

Is the psyker fire the same?

[hard nexus]

and a theoretical amount of them, thanks to infinite cleave

and 20m is pretty far

[hexed igloo]

I've been using the voidflame staff but idk if I'm really using it right

[hard nexus]

different damage numbers but yes, exponential stacking

so u wanna keep enemies at high stacks

[hexed igloo]

Ah sick so I'm not wrong for charge flaming bosses

[hard nexus]

noh but it’s a good idea to flame them for a bit, then switch to melee, and only go back to flaming to refresh stacks

that way u have more damage output

[hexed igloo]

Honestly I be mostly a melee psyker, just set everything alight and swap to force greatsword

[hard nexus]

also

and while flaming, just back dodge

buys u more time to use it

[exotic plaza]

blaze away + everlasting tbh

iirc isn't overpressure depend on your actual ammo number and not how much you spend

[elfin thorn]

looks pretty good, though you strangely appear to have lack of general defense and instead have it baked into burst defense with shroudfield 🤔

you should totally try out relentless fevor with relic blade whenever you can. i hear it's really funny

esp with unfaltering

[brazen widget]

kinda helps since i´m using the blade´s alt mk, which hass lightly less crowd control

the flamer

[hard nexus]

everlasting flames isn’t good because you almost never need any more than a cylinder

[hard nexus]

overpressure depends on what your magazine is at, not how much you fire, like blaze away is

but they still stack together

[exotic plaza]

I mean havoc

[hard nexus]

meaning more burn damage

[hard nexus]

even in havoc

[exotic plaza]

when im running thammer

[exotic plaza]

yeah that what i was saying lol

[hard nexus]

even in havoc you don’t need everlasting, you still build 16 stacks plenty fine, and that burn kills just about everything

[hard nexus]

yah i know

i was clarifying

by adding that they still stack together

[hard nexus]

and everlasting also requires blazing piety

which isn’t as meta anymore considering zealot CDR changes

[exotic plaza]

it have enough innate crit to not need it tbh

[hard nexus]

it’s only 5%

[exotic plaza]

huh

[hard nexus]

flamer has crit chains, where if you roll a crit, the next few “shots” are crits as well

a lot of fast firing weapons have this

[elfin thorn]

it doesn't sound like it would crit often if it's 5%
probably could get a proc or two in per mag i'd think, but piety would boost it up more

[exotic plaza]

I remember it being highee but that might just be perk

[elfin thorn]

ohh i did not know that. reminds me of team fortress 2

[exotic plaza]

since i run crit flak

a single proc reload like 4 ammo

[hard nexus]

but still, everlasting isn’t super relevant, because everything aside from bosses and crushers die to a mag, even in higher level havocs

and you don’t need to be flaming an enemy past 16 stacks, as your direct damage is pretty minimal

[hard nexus]

yeah, crit chains

[hard nexus]

then you have 10% crit chance

still, not super good

flak maniac or flak elites or flak unyielding would be better

5% crit chance isn’t very good

[elfin thorn]

can you see if an enemy has 16 stacks without mods?

[hard nexus]

no unfortunately

i use debuff indicator

also gives good info on stuff like skullcrusher

hi ainz

[plush estuary]

hi

willow

[elfin thorn]

yo

[plush estuary]

look at this clip

[elfin thorn]

aw hell naw

[elfin thorn]

that's terrifying

[drowsy steppe]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/240196923644968960/1429498287940960266/RDT_20251019_105523.mp4?ex=68f65b86&is=68f50a06&hm=e6e2df3e9bfd78f6aeb5b57476fab9f4c96dd345231f9646130ced7127e797be&

[carmine lance]

mainly because I consistently have not needed it

[drowsy steppe]

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[copper hawk]

so peak..

[hard nexus]

lethal company?

haven’t seen that in a loooong time,,

[hard nexus]

graphical quality does not matter, art direction does

[plush estuary]

yeah, some zel chat members and I playing this morning

[drifting wolf]

we are forsaken

[drowsy steppe]

nah theres genuinely shitty game graphics...

[drifting wolf]

destiny 1 vs destiny 2

[drowsy steppe]

or some rather unoptimized graphic slop (UE5 )

[long oasis]

We will play at some point in the near future because im swamped this week :<

[plush estuary]

noita coop?

[hard nexus]

I LOVE UNREAL ENGINE 5

I LOVE DLSS

[long oasis]

Yers

[hard nexus]

I LOVE AI UPSCALING

[plush estuary]

oh????

[hard nexus]

I LOVE NOT OPTIMIZING

[long oasis]

ainz ik u have the game wanna do many player

[plush estuary]

I am reinstalling now

[hard nexus]

oh that’s cool

[long oasis]

@heady rapids

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-drones-episode-8-cyn-absolute-solver-dropped-this-silly-gif-9319925322490200759

need to rewatch murder drones i think

[long oasis]

The shadow wizaed money gang

[heady rapids]

I'm sleeping

[hard nexus]

can someone give me 100 dollars

so i can get the cyn statue

[long oasis]

I thought u were cyn

[hard nexus]

i’ll play darktide with whoever does

[plush estuary]

thats too low

[hard nexus]

i’ll play drg

[plush estuary]

sold

[long oasis]

Are you even real or a figment of my imagination

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-driller-satchel-charge-charge-throw-gif-12668204393087787311

[hard nexus]

my offer is a DRG punch card you can redeem whenever

with 10 slots

[drowsy steppe]

i remember meow first being Cyn, then meow then Willow

[plush estuary]

$10 for each DRG session

lol

[drowsy steppe]

the double trouble legal name change..

[hard nexus]

i think that’s a fair deal

each drg session will be at least one hour

[plush estuary]

reminds me of a pic

1 min

[hard nexus]

i was cyn, then cynwalker, then meow, then i just changed my discord username to Willow._Wisp

but my nickname in this server has been meow! for a while

even back when my pfp was still murder drones

[hard nexus]

is it the edating price chart

[plush estuary]

yeah

that

the matching pfp for a day being like $20 or something

I cant find it

[plush estuary]

that

[sullen forge]

10 minutes

[carmine lance]

gotta love it when you get an abnormally dog shit auric maelstrom match

[long oasis]

I had it today which is weird

[drowsy steppe]

meow

[sullen forge]

holy pukeko @visual stream

[long oasis]

ive never lost an auric before just because my teammates were so phenomenally dogshit

[visual stream]

I only just recently discovered it was also made by the creator of TADC

[visual stream]

OO I SAW THIS ONE TOO

[drowsy steppe]

man crazy this is a thing

[long oasis]

did u change ur pfp

[visual stream]

Been the same for a good while

knify made this one like uh

4 months ago perhapsibly?

[long oasis]

yea but now they have nails and a iced mocha latte

maybe im blkind

[visual stream]

I don't blame you for not noticing

I am a subtle slay after all

[long oasis]

maybe not subtle but sure

[drowsy steppe]

shit looked more like findom

[long oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1429493059800006736/ezgif-8330b54cdeafaa.gif

[drowsy steppe]

noo...

[heady rapids]

what are we thinking chat

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-ibuprofen-i-have-a-headache-meme-ibuprofen-meme-anime-girl-meme-mood-gif-17693332636758375379

[long oasis]

me because you didnt give me ibuprofen

[drowsy steppe]

nooo shen im sorry

Barry DeLight..

[long oasis]

reminds me of dncake

[heady rapids]

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSUbNEEKG/

[full nebula]

bros got big stompers

[drowsy steppe]

we gotta talk about that hair

who hurt bro..

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/coconut-head-neds-declassified-cry-dramatic-gif-12504567

[signal spoke]

There I say skill issue

[plush estuary]

its really only blue stim that is bad rn

[drowsy steppe]

I agree tbh

party finder is also dead in asia 😛

also theres three game modes thats separating the playerbase

normal mission board
mortis trials
havoc...

and players wanted a chaos waste game mode in this game 😭

[glossy nimbus]

I gotta watch this later

[glossy nimbus]

That blows

I really hope they fix havoc next update

Thats like a top need tbh

Besides that would be letting us change the values of our weapon modifiers

To be rid of the gambling

[hard nexus]

meow!

[hard nexus]

yah

[hard nexus]

yarp

paypigs

[carmine lance]

Chat I’m scared, my project group has also been having casual conversation in addition to project talk, and halloween came up; it’s me and two girls. One of them was curious to see what I went as for comicon

Chat are they going to think I’m a nazi or something

[spare talon]

did you go as that catboy from hellsing

[carmine lance]

No I went as a krieger

I don’t know what hellsing is

I’m in the middle here

[spare talon]

idk
rotten armor can be pretty unfun

esp with purple

[plush estuary]

I find that fun myself

[heady rapids]

would it be better if they thought you were a warhammer fan

[carmine lance]

Marginally better

[drowsy steppe]

I mean just ask if they know warhammer and take it from there

[carmine lance]

I just said it was one of the military regiments from warhammer

Figured that was enough because I’m already assuming they don’t know or care much about it

[full nebula]

just tell'em you're playing a soldier who just wants to die, so yourself

[heady rapids]

they'll now think you didn't even care enough to make up a good cover up story

[full nebula]

self deprecation good to an extent

[carmine lance]

nah I'm not that self deprecating

[drowsy steppe]

well you can ask if they wanna see the cosplay pict and talk about the cool cosplayers you meet too

[carmine lance]

true

I sent the explanation and photo, so I guess we'll see if they even respond lmao

[full nebula]

tell'em they can come with you to the next one and they can dress like uhh

sims

[carmine lance]

maybe!

[full nebula]

idk

[drowsy steppe]

lol leeme know how it goes

[long oasis]

just dont tell them its called the death korps cuz what are they supposed to think

[full nebula]

animal crossing

[carmine lance]

oh yeah I didn't mention that

[drowsy steppe]

it makes for an interesting lore around the regiment ngl

hey so this regiment is called the death korps and theyre essentially a regiment with a culture around dying for god

so yea Imperial Japanese army kekw

though I do wish Krieg lore is more than just woohoo shovel memes and dying for god emperor..

the whole Vraks series doesnt really offer any much insight into kriegers as people...

[carmine lance]

I mean it is more than shovel memes, but people just don't go farther than that

I literally intentionally excluded a shovel because I didn't want to get lumped into shovel memes

maybe I'll buy a shovel and shovel holster tho for the look, I don't need to actually carry it

[full nebula]

make a helbore lasgun with no sights as a darktide reference

[carmine lance]

REAL

[acoustic dune]

It's 6 am and I didn't get a wink of sleep yet

[full nebula]

all nighter time

[acoustic dune]

I am drinking rhum to go to slee0

[normal shell]

Twinning

[acoustic dune]

Doesn't help that I am scrolling through [social media]

And listening to music

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I like this this

[bitter anvil]

cheap costume, you failed the contest

[acoustic dune]

Real

What scare is that you have this under a min

What was even the original context

[carmine lance]

😔

[brazen widget]

i wanna do the "kill 150 elites with backstabs while in shroudfield" penance
but currently doing the "kill 500 elites with BoF" one

do killing enemies from behind with the blades count? or gotta be a melee backstab

Also whats "threat" exactly

[plush estuary]

played any MMOs?

its agression

enemies are less likely to go for you

[brazen widget]

nope

but i do understand the effect from other games, just not the name

[plush estuary]

I see

[ornate bone]

so true

[lunar fable]

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/speddoru-speedo-sausage-phoenix-wright-miles-edgeworth-ace-attorney-gif-26041381

[sterile stone]

@ivory marlin

[ivory marlin]

I got that hat

[glossy nimbus]

What blessings should I put on my heavy sword

[ripe quest]

The difference between 5% and 10% is so small on a flamer's damage output that sneezing midgame would have a larger impact on performance over the course of a game, it's pretty cool.

[acoustic dune]

Real n true

[glossy nimbus]

Kills your family.

[acoustic dune]

What if I kill you first

[glossy nimbus]

Kills your family

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[long oasis]

Now kith

[ripe quest]

Deathblow Headtaker is B&B

[glossy nimbus]

I need blessings on

ok

[acoustic dune]

THIS RHUM SUCK

It taste like spicy water

It lack that erk I would normally have

[long oasis]

Whats b and b

[glossy nimbus]

how is uh ignore enemy hitmass better than cleave

[long oasis]

Rum is spicy water

[glossy nimbus]

bread and butter

[acoustic dune]

I wish I had whisky

-3-

[long oasis]

Ignore enemy hit mass means cleave doesnt matter until you run out of damages

[acoustic dune]

Well yeah

[ripe quest]

Deathblow is like brutal momentum. You do your first target damage (or whatever target's damage procs it) to multiple enemies.

[acoustic dune]

But it suck

Not in a good way

[jagged cradle]

i hate this season of havoc but i finally did my h40

[acoustic dune]

It doesn't taste like molly whood

[long oasis]

Can you drink everclear

[acoustic dune]

I should have gotten whisky

[acoustic dune]

Bah

[long oasis]

but like 1/10 everclear 9/10 orange juice

[acoustic dune]

I still have dignity

[acoustic dune]

BAH

[full nebula]

ignoring hitmass isnt bad, heavy swords just do fuck all against armor because fatshark is determined for most bladed and blunt weapons to be a joke against it

[acoustic dune]

If I had to make a screw driver

[long oasis]

or 10/10 orange juice

[acoustic dune]

It's half vodka and oj

MINIMUM

[long oasis]

Just drink orange juice

[acoustic dune]

Or 70 30

[long oasis]

I mean isnt vodka like 35

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-memes-sopranos-tony-soprano-meme-pulp-gif-24753238

[acoustic dune]

No?

Idk

[long oasis]

Idk my alcs

[acoustic dune]

I like my whisky

[ripe quest]

Hsword is setup to really like Deathblow. It has basically first target damage twice already on most heavy profiles (not the looping sweeps on the IX), so you get more effectiveness out of it than Caxe/Taxe technically.

[long oasis]

il everclear kills you instantly

[acoustic dune]

BAH

[long oasis]

Like tetradptoxin

[acoustic dune]

MY MOTHER LAND AKE WHITE RHUM ON A DAILY

[long oasis]

or cyanide

[acoustic dune]

I care not what yall puny bangalore drinks

We have snake whisky

:p

[long oasis]

Drink baijiu

tsaoxing

[acoustic dune]

Baidu?

[long oasis]

White beer

[acoustic dune]

Is it somekind of soiju?

[long oasis]

But its not beer it pretty strong

[acoustic dune]

R
Which remind me

I wanna try butter beet

[glossy nimbus]

can u share ur build

[long oasis]

Like in hogwart

Alcohol for minors

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/butterbeer-harry-potter-gif-18357487

[acoustic dune]

Pretty much yeah

[long oasis]

Let the children drink vodka seltzers

Ok eepy time

[glossy nimbus]

Let kids drink sewage

[ripe quest]

Honestly is from a better time. Hsword having its current crowd performance and anti-armor wouldn't make sense. Carapace by design isn't meant to have much effective against it but we have a lot effective against it, stuff that bypasses it, and it spawns constantly. So the design meant to make weapons more expressive just turns into a failure of establishing weapon roles.

[acoustic dune]

I should buy tequila

IF I KNOWBWHERE

[long oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1429493059800006736/ezgif-8330b54cdeafaa.gif

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

God I should draw while dead drunk

But this rhum ain't strong enough

Should have gotten some charteuse

[full nebula]

Not every weapon needs to obliterate groups of crushers, but the state heavy sword is now it needs a bump

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/chartreuse-drink-bio-oups-green-gif-20661133

[ripe quest]

Hsword works on basically any IJ/Martyr build I'm gonna be real. I use a Flak/Maniac Deathblow/Headtaker VII or VI based on vibe w/ a SI Boltgun or Agri Railgun stuff (anything benefitting ranged + shroudfield on a scattershot/no respite + man-stopper agri shotgun).

I change my build constantly you can just make something and it'll work

[glossy nimbus]

I'm using blazing piety

and fotf

[signal spoke]

I think Uni is quite upset

[spare talon]

im in a havoc game with 4 vets

you will not believe the weapon setup

[lunar fable]

3 hh autos

And a plasma

[jagged cradle]

plasma bolter bolt pistol uhhhh plasma

oh wait you’re in there two db plasma and bolter

[signal spoke]

DS with plasma, recon and Bistol

[spare talon]

3 ds plasma
im db shovel

[jagged cradle]

fun

[signal spoke]

I bet that they gonna go down before reaching the second section of the mission

[visual stream]

And I was branded a naysayer the day the recent patch dropped and I said the scab buffs would only further this failure...

[ripe quest]

For the most part Hsword got boosted with Zealot's damage increases but honestly I hope a enemy/weapon overhaul gets considered.

[long oasis]

Theres still a content drop left for this year right

Theyve been doing a lot of balancing lately so we might get one

[signal spoke]

We ain't getting a new mission after a whole year

[brazen widget]

Beacon of purity heals corruption from grimmoires too?

[plush estuary]

yes

[brazen widget]

ooooh

[plush estuary]

but cant remove the base corruption it gives

it only stops the added corruption from over time

[brazen widget]

ig just like corruption by being knocked down

tbh i´m not sure which aura to choose

i go with beacon bcs sounds the most unique option

[glossy nimbus]

Its legit crazy

Completely immune to being eaten out by chaos spawn and burgle

[signal spoke]

Though beacon is only used for specific situations

It good support aura but it gonna feel a waste of there's not much corruption to deal with

[brazen widget]

yeah like the other two are effects basically applied just by cohession

[visual stream]

It takes as many or less hits to kill a crusher now vs. before?

[brazen widget]

but beacon, even in cohession it wont help without any corruption to heal

gonna change for the stamina aura in my main build

[ripe quest]

I mean, you wouldn't really use Hsword for Crushers pre-patch either so it's implied that they're not considered.

[neat drum]

Does providence apply the tdr and mov speed when rescuing teammates?

[misty nova]

Should

Since revive Speed got buffed to work on assisting in general

[visual stream]

I still see it as a consideration because that is an overall power decrease if they do it worse than before

[ripe quest]

yeah but that's like not an intended target. No point in considering it.

[visual stream]

Also with how spawn rates can be at times, it doesn't seem incentivized to use a dedicated anti-armor ranged

[visual stream]

There is a point because before you at least could do it if you were forced to

If you can do one less thing than you could before or do it worse, that is indeed considerable

[ripe quest]

Not really. Here it's the difference between awful and a bit worse than awful performance. You don't use an Hsword for Crushers outside of very specific cases, if it's considerable then whatever build it is considerable in failed at being made correctly.

[neat drum]

What else count as an assist?

[ripe quest]

Like if horde enemies got buffed you would not say the the knife is considerably worse, you don't use it for that.

[visual stream]

Yes but it still impacts overall performance

If every poxwalker took ten hits to kill instead of four, you're using even more ranged than you would before

Similarly if every crusher took 20 hits to kill instead of ten, that's also more ranged you're forced to use instead of being able to save

[ripe quest]

which you don't ever consider if the weapon isn't a generalist

[next crow]

rotten armor being a havoc modifier means that all melee weapons that are bad at carapace are worse off than before

assuming you measure a weapon's "goodness" by "how does this weapon perform in high havoc", anyway

[visual stream]

The game is simply not structured in the way that your design philosophy dictates even if I agree with it

[exotic plaza]

carapace is so ass fr

in vt2 even if youre using a weapon that not very good against armor you can still deal with them in reasonable time

[acoustic dune]

Chat it's 8 30 and I haven't had a lick of sleep

[exotic plaza]

there are really good weapon but even then they still have some flaw

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-mono-sad-cry-disappointed-gif-14274173653447956878

[elfin thorn]

thanks for the knowledge 👍

[mystic ether]

Armor also just doesn't have levels of distinctions in the same way as darktide

There's no such thing as flak or carapace.

It's just armor.

And I guess shields but those can be guard broken for other

[exotic plaza]

armor is functionally carapace in vt2

shields is ass 💔

[mystic ether]

I suppose. It's a nothing burger when someone builds to cover breakpoint and it really is a superfluous thing at higher level play before modded difficulty shenanigans.

We're not being tasked with stabbing through the large gaps in armor because fuck that, this a horde shooter after all.

[carmine lance]

Can I kill any zealot that does the one tap build please, thanks (Only I get to use it because I’m special, and even when I’m not using it, I refuse to be usurped in boss damage on the end screen)

[glossy nimbus]

Is there anyway to make heavy sword better at killing carapace

or have I just been playing with martydom zealot for way too long

[hushed bolt]

no

I just have bolter as backup

because it's a very satisfying thing to heavy spam

[full nebula]

is he dead yet

[signal spoke]

I saw him twitching, think you need to bash him again

[full nebula]

this poor bastard. I beat him down with a giant candle stick, then i took his axe. Then i chopped off both arms, and he lived, then he got sloiced.

[carmine lance]

im actually really miffed rn

fucking died twice

because someone set off barrels while i was in range

and only me

actually fuck off with that

[mystic ether]

Up to what point? idk shit about havoc on a deeper end yet but I've had alright times with heavy sword blender antics elsewhere.

[mystic ether]

sometimes, the demons win.

[carmine lance]

clearly

[median steeple]

Apparently valve killed tourist viscous

[carmine lance]

what's that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/764252341641150474/1050428537942851594/caption.gif

I forgot I had this gif saved

[runic grotto]

good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298164946181296220/1409798484529381427/globe.gif

This

This viscous looks like he beats his wife

During vacation

But viscous is just a little goober

[full nebula]

lemme get just a little off the top

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil675-gif-2877674803769001259

[sterile stone]

Bro that's crazy how a fuck up at amazon takes games out of commission

[exotic plaza]

yeah switch to different weapon

[royal sandal]

armor and super-armor

[royal sandal]

and even then armored enemies have unarmored gaps for you to hit through

stormvermin head is infantry

mauler body is infantry

fucking chaos warrior head is just armor despite its entire body being super armor

[exotic plaza]

yeah

[full nebula]

@signal spoke they got me...

[royal sandal]

honestly fatshark cornered themselves with mauler and crusher armor types

and id also extend this to the existence of rending and brittleness

[mystic ether]

Sounds more like they just kept expanding a system that already had a level of interplay to begin with.

And then whatever ended up running away to get some dissatisfied came along the way.

[royal sandal]

yeah they could have just kept the previous armor types from vt2

nothing was wrong with it

[acoustic dune]

should have been in corner

smh

[mystic ether]

What i meant by that is that the system got expanded on further. As in, layered with more. I'm actually going through some of vt2 stuff rn so I'm reserving more since I just kept working on figuring out how to hit heads as often as possible. The same principle is the same but they started adding more. That's fine because they already have a cool enough concept and execution to me.

But whatever numbers are happening that endgame havoc presents seems to the be the bigger rub. People already intentionally make builds using talents, blessings and perks to just have what they need to start busting through armor in the first place while checking themselves on any gaps compensated for with combining primary or secondary weapons.

I never paid attention to patch timelines in terms of gaps between changes that have a stronger effect in endgame compared to everything else. Wondering what key words really meant for vt2 since I just took words at their worth, played with my builds and just kept getting better so the only thing I actually paid attention to was results.

[royal sandal]

breakpoints arent much of a consideration on vt2

and on cataclysm you can live without them

ive done cata with white weapons and only thp + smiter

[mystic ether]

I never lived without them since I just run around with the same like two or three builds per subclass.

It wouldn't surprise me to actually feel that differenc out after shaking off the rust again.

But I definitely remember just going through some of the royal w/ cheese guides, copying and editing builds, marginally experimenting but actually being totally okay with running a narrow spread of builds over time.

And hilariously enough, generalist builds in vt2 were often pretty powerful in my experience with the game.

[exotic plaza]

it's the fact that they exist matter

in havoc breakpoint is non existent because random bullshit go

[royal sandal]

havoc overall just needs a rework

[exotic plaza]

I heard weave is more similar to havoc

but i haven't play weave

[royal sandal]

weave is also dogshit

weave's ranking mechanic is similar to havoc

but havoc's actual elite/special spam comes from modded

and even then fatshark gets it fucking wrong since you dont play modded vt2 like this

nor does anyone like the ranking stuff from weave

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/courage-mallet-eustace-eustacebagge-im-getting-me-mallet-gif-19727575

[frosty herald]

@carmine falcon @heady rapids @acoustic dune the current weekly stratagem is actual aids

[heady rapids]

what is it

[acoustic dune]

what is it

@frosty herald

[frosty herald]

lemme get a screenshot wait 1 sec

also amazon fucked up

so youll get auto kicked in multiplayer because the game thinks its modded

[acoustic dune]

😔 guh

what does that mean

[frosty herald]

something with their anti cheat or sum

hitler and stalin personally collaborated for this stratagem

[acoustic dune]

sniper vanguard

and prob

bulwark?

[frosty herald]

heavy sniper tactical

dont interact with the enemies at all

[acoustic dune]

66% health reduction

[frosty herald]

1 sniper shot

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeyquote-gif-17287897282409113653

[frosty herald]

and your just dead

[acoustic dune]

me think bulwark would cook in this

for his armor regen

[heady rapids]

dark souls

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170241988751274028/1429733583295348838/RDT_20251020_103014.mp4?ex=68f736a9&is=68f5e529&hm=1a71f2944a8380942297a6ebdf13e3afe543cf8208e53495f6b38fa843465f73&

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/godiyminaj-gif-20429676

[heady rapids]

https://x.com/Middayboshi/status/1979974374925926603

🫧 Tsuki 🫧 (@Middayboshi)

"Oh no its a mega metagross Z"
*you start the battle*

"A drifting tender, come on heroes ride"

X · Oct 19, 2025, 6:14 PM

[frosty herald]

when you get clipped by a termigaunt shot

[solar gorge]

I finally got w11, all hail the antichrist

[heady rapids]

w11 is trying to get me to update

to a newer version

[solar gorge]

bill gates is my sovereign

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[solar gorge]

HOW DO I GET RID OF TEAMS

[heady rapids]

idk

how do you get teams in the first place

[solar gorge]

It just got there

[heady rapids]

https://youtu.be/PP9VZ-2ooQk

[solar gorge]

on it's own

[heady rapids]

get this

at least

so you wouldnt have installed w11 for nothing

[solar gorge]

oh shit that's actually a decent feature

[frosty herald]

you get to kill the app

[tropic egret]

I had 1 Microsoft Teams meeting a few weeks ago. Now every time I boot up my computer, Teams launches itself and breaks, I think it's trying to connect to that same long-gone meeting 🙁

[solar gorge]

can't let go

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1231286447131328544/1429769735276597359/image.png?ex=68f75854&is=68f606d4&hm=e7efac2e43b1b50f413fbdfddff795e4c0387641227dcab30396947b509e8ec5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[heady rapids]

have youy looked into any apps that debloat the system btw

[solar gorge]

not yet

i just kinda disabled everything, but it's only hidden

i guess

[frosty herald]

did you put your taskbar on the left yet

[solar gorge]

yeah

[heady rapids]

https://x.com/MILFmassacre/status/1979947574967636014

The Frustrating Individual (@MILFmassacre)

40 minutes into the hangout with bro and he passes you this

X · Oct 19, 2025, 4:27 PM

[acoustic dune]

imagine using ai upscale instead of hiring artist aswell s making up concept art

[heady rapids]

we'll see

[dull iris]

i don't have to imagine

[queen yoke]

[solar gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1429751328242008105/1429751328963432458/tbqzetvjGF.png?ex=68f74730&is=68f5f5b0&hm=5bf41a9528b48afec6a8c9862c2de73b4249e1d7ad21363de1cb372fe2d66677&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=997&height=647

[frosty herald]

wait what

[heady rapids]

preload leaked so people are losing their minds

[acoustic dune]

yeah replanted use ai upscale to ''redo'' the sprite

and for filler they added ''early concept art'' which was made up

[frosty herald]

bruh

this screams lazyness

[heady rapids]

it was made in 6m

[acoustic dune]

yeah 6 month production

also the music

[heady rapids]

but idk it hasnt released yet so

[acoustic dune]

no love

[heady rapids]

cant tell for sure

[acoustic dune]

no music engineer

[solar gorge]

AI upscaling is good for textures tho

[acoustic dune]

flat as ur mother

[heady rapids]

yeah

[acoustic dune]

you know whats good?
redrawing it

[solar gorge]

textures

not the sprites

[heady rapids]

they did redraw the sprites

[acoustic dune]

i doudnt that

[heady rapids]

people were losing their shit over the new twin sunflower tho so probably not a good idea in the end

thats a fact

[acoustic dune]

how so?

i didnt see it

[frosty herald]

also kinda confused as to why its 20 smack

[acoustic dune]

wtf is that

[heady rapids]

original game costed 20

[frosty herald]

the og is 5 bucks right now

[solar gorge]

idk nuthin' about pvz

my most recent interaction with it was watching team neighbourhood 6

[heady rapids]

im still gonna play the remaster but making claims that big about the preload leaking

ehh

a bit far fetched

day 1 patch then we're talking

[acoustic dune]

in short remaster is souless

[dull iris]

i'm kinda confused at the hype around it

[acoustic dune]

just get the original

[acoustic dune]

there wasnt a hype

people were mad

[heady rapids]

you get to play console widescreen on pc after 15~ years

• new content

there's hard mode and new minigames

and china

[dull iris]

wow they added china?

[frosty herald]

just play pvz 3

[heady rapids]

i think i saw a level

pvz 3 is ass

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812

[heady rapids]

at least it looks like ass

the gameplay is good

but the art direction is dog

[dull iris]

it also plays like ass

more like a puzzle game than a tower defense

[solar gorge]

I mean remasters aren't like super interesting, it's mostly just quality of life

it's not a remake

[heady rapids]

save me pvz replanted.....

[solar gorge]

why is there a minecraft character bottom left

goofy ass

[heady rapids]

the only thing i disliked was the absence of a shovel

[acoustic dune]

i decline that idea

the ideal of remaster should be enchancing with newer tech

aswell as adding new content that the original creator want to add

[heady rapids]

they did all that in replanted tho

we got widescreen and more content

[solar gorge]

that's quality of life

[acoustic dune]

still fake concept art

erk me

flat music

[dull iris]

i would play a pvz2 mod instead

[acoustic dune]

they made it lack that complexy of the first game

a good example

THE MUSIC

THE FUCKINNG MUSIC

where as in the original where the wave start it was simple calm

[dull iris]

is it just a static track now?

[acoustic dune]

as the gme progress the music have new instrument added

[heady rapids]

the game hasnt released even

you're talking about a leaked build

[acoustic dune]

till the climax reach its beauty

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/squinting-skeptical-futurama-gif-14582715115319205829

point is

i hate ea

[heady rapids]

no one likes ea

[dull iris]

it's crazy how hard they killed the franchise after 2

[acoustic dune]

pvz warfare

heard it was good

[dull iris]

they killed it there too with the latest one

[acoustic dune]

dont know about

2

[dull iris]

battle for uhhh

somethingville

[frosty herald]

Pvz is never seeing the light of day after the deal

[queen yoke]

Battle for neighbourville

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/plants-vs-zombies-gif-26295314

[queen yoke]

I dont blame em tbh, the newest pvz mobile game is fucking abysmal

You know those match 3 games where u get 3 choices to customise shit?

[acoustic dune]

atleast i can look up to indie game these days

[queen yoke]

Its just that but the match 3 is replaced with a pvz match with pre-selected plants

[queen yoke]

Yup, thank fuck

[dull iris]

i suggest the pvz2 mods

one felt like a natural progression of the original game

[acoustic dune]

like the game that is develop by the creator of biding of isac

cat smth

[queen yoke]

Mewgenics

[acoustic dune]

yeah that

[queen yoke]

Got an eye on that, looks pretty good

Cant imagine even if it does shit the bed it'll do it that much

[acoustic dune]

you could say you got

a paw

on it

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-2883752256548549053

[queen yoke]

[south prism]

paw tuah!

[acoustic dune]

i am drawing you mpreg

right now

[south prism]

da obra dinn

such a killer game

[acoustic dune]

@south prism

as promise

[south prism]

@normal shell you got me pregnant

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-cat-walking-gray-cat-gif-14865986020845776272

[normal shell]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-memes-pregnant-gif-26528786

[south prism]

u should play this

[acoustic dune]

i cant believe the captain shot him

he exactly gave him a shot

[normal shell]

https://tenor.com/view/negative-energy-negative-badvibes-sendingnegativeenergy-gif-25745163

[south prism]

im sending the kraken after u

[acoustic dune]

kinky

[south prism]

dey frew a bomp at da kraggen :(

[acoustic dune]

did it work

[south prism]

i duno

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[drowsy furnace]

what's that

[solar gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1429314582068854785/1429314586804490300/patronsphere.jpg?ex=68f701f0&is=68f5b070&hm=032567d3d192c6deae2f88865f35957a94df075835910bbb631b482fab893e2e&=&format=webp&width=1154&height=640

[acoustic dune]

pvz my guess

[solar gorge]

https://x.com/shorizyon/status/1980135606983541238?t=KchpCLpKWkUbp9c4y0zaBQ&s=19

shory (@shorizyon)

quick sketch, i like this design!
#deadlock #deadlockfanart

X · Oct 20, 2025, 4:54 AM

[misty nova]

https://fixupx.com/DemondNews/status/1980045328494788776?s=19

TheDemond😈 (@DemondNews)

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▶ Play video

FixupX · Oct 19, 2025, 10:56 PM

[north sedge]

rip alien head yamato

[solar gorge]

won't be missed

https://tenor.com/view/ripbozo-packwatch-rest-in-piss-forewer-you-wont-be-missed-gif-12361132576890515601

[hushed knoll]

HI

ILY

[hushed knoll]

[carmine falcon]

Yeah this is gonna be cancer lmao

U can't avoid fighting because it's fucking inferno

I'm going tank bullwark

Or actually heavy

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/skating-basketball-slam-dunk-ice-gif-24361241

[carmine falcon]

Multi melts heavy

[frosty herald]

Just pick heavy

[mystic ether]

Hm. Sm2 fun enough.

Neat little slap button game.

[carmine falcon]

Slapitty slap

[drowsy furnace]

this fucking penance

[carmine falcon]

You'll need to do it with others

Get another guy with stuns

Both of u keep horde alive and throw 2 stuns

Then pull up flamer

[solar gorge]

hi auric, stun horde and then flamer

[drowsy furnace]

other zealot stun nades also work?

[carmine falcon]

Proceed with flamenwerfing

[carmine falcon]

Yeah

[drowsy furnace]

ok lit

I tried doing it on auric mortis by just dragging as much as I can then throwing all three nades at once and slashing out with relic blade

didn't work

[carmine falcon]

Flamer is the fastest

[drowsy furnace]

awesome thanks for letting me know

[solar gorge]

don't bother with mortis

just go hi damn auric

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1429800387266871387/cattack.mov?ex=68f774e0&is=68f62360&hm=3e15d14eecbb4a990a42c12a932422d67fbeadcbf3efd81452c7395a7ebe0929&

i'm going to play project silverfish and mod myself a human player character in

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-why-yes-joker-freaky-tongue-gif-7806195658652495545

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-gif-punch-eyes-eye-emoji-gif-11447282833826748780

laambda

[solar gorge]

how does it feel now

[acoustic dune]

roblox when

[solar gorge]

never ever

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/jingol-virtuous-indie-horse-what-a-surprise-quit-horsing-around-gif-3916818714798710882

[hushed knoll]

What does this mean

[solar gorge]

lebum jemes

[hushed knoll]

Is that a real person

[exotic plaza]

Damn pious got nerfed

Sorry guy

[north solar]

we love zealot not having any identity anymore.

[drowsy furnace]

aholy shitz

I got to 39 then I accidentally let go of lmb when I sneezed @carmine falcon

u cant make this up

[carmine falcon]

[exotic plaza]

psykernetic aura nerfed btw

[solar gorge]

not enough

they need to delete psyker

[north solar]

i really hope they don't start pushing zealot into the assasin duelist archetype any more than they already have

[carmine falcon]

oh they slapped arbeetus on the wrist again

[north solar]

with buffs?

[solar gorge]

pretend nerfs

yawn

[carmine falcon]

wait

they nefed pious cutthroat

why

its not even the best one

[solar gorge]

cuz it was best in slot mayber

[stray summit]

Punishment buff gaming

[solar gorge]

100% uptime cdr

[north solar]

i called it when arbites came out, it's the pay to play zealot that will slowly encroach on the "melee specialist" territory

[carmine falcon]

he really isnt

[tiny ruin]

Psyker CDR nerfed heavly

[north solar]

in what way?

[carmine falcon]

arbeetus isnt really a melee specialist, he's more of a hybrid class similar to vet

[tiny ruin]

its best solo class

for all 4 classes into one

not the best class

[carmine falcon]

oh they directly nerfed shout

yeah this game is getting review bombed

[solar gorge]

do everything decently class

[tiny ruin]

yeah they nerfed shout

[tiny ruin]

more than decent

[drowsy furnace]

psyk getting any kind of nerf at all is surprising

[north solar]

arbites does melee arguably better than zealot and has his best in class points w less restrictions

[drowsy furnace]

all these buffs and psyker pugs are still objectively the worst

[north solar]

plus he gets dog

[solar gorge]

psyker is giga broken

[north solar]

plus absolutely busted ranged

[ivory canyon]

Hes right arbeetus is just good at everything

Hes just better

[carmine falcon]

u can also build him to be a ranged hybrid just like vet

he's also way more focused on stagger than 1 shotting things

[ivory canyon]

Arbeetus does it even better imo

And has the most survivability

[north solar]

fr

[ivory canyon]

Its honestly stupid af😂 i get why people dont wanna play with arbys

[north solar]

sorry, he 2 shots most things instead of oneshotting them.

[scenic drift]

Oh, so that's where Carmen Sandiego was hiding.

[carmine falcon]

nah ill take arbeetus over rumbler ogryn , nade spamming vets and psyker in general

[solar gorge]

i'd still rather play with the average arby than a """"""decent""""" staff psyker

[ivory canyon]

Cope

[carmine falcon]

why would i cope

try having fun in a normal auric with any of the 3 i mentioned

[ivory canyon]

Well thats very specific builds

Try having fun with any arby

[drowsy furnace]

GOT IT ON MORTIS

LFG

[carmine falcon]

that happen to be the most common builds

[frosty herald]

it is

[drowsy furnace]

thanks for the tip again cyber

[carmine falcon]

happy for you brotha

[scenic drift]

yeah, doom arby won't gun down everything in auric and leave plenty of chaff for you to kill

[solar gorge]

literally 8 out of 10 ogryn is running rumbler spam

in pubs

i hate this game fyi

[tiny ruin]

as foıunder fathers intented

[scenic drift]

mfw maulers get cut in half by shotgun crits

[tiny ruin]

rumbler with bully club, better zealot

[scenic drift]

I wish I'd see these ogryn

[carmine falcon]

still less annoying than nade vet or rumbler unironically
these enimies were not made with nades being spammable in mind they just dont do anything

[solar gorge]

no you don't

if you want to interact with the game

[scenic drift]

Most are useless taunters who die to trappers.

[solar gorge]

you don't

[real sonnet]

My Pious Cut-Throat got nerfed...

Book in shambles

[carmine falcon]

trust me you do not

[tiny ruin]

if they didn't wanted arbys, why are they called?

rannick hates zealots

[ivory canyon]

I honestly barely see ogryns at all

Most players are arbys atp

Or vet

Or psyker

I agree rumbler ogryn are annoying

But very rareimo

[carmine falcon]

im barely seeing arbys since update

it feels like playing pre arby dt again

[scenic drift]

, arbys are like 1 game in 10

[ivory canyon]

Every game lol

[carmine falcon]

everyone on the og classes

[real sonnet]

Me only seeing rumble:

[scenic drift]

Are you on auric+?

[ivory canyon]

Might be because i blocked wm all lol😂

I agree rumblgryn is annoying af

Especially with pbb

[north solar]

i really love how they nerfed the 100% cdr option for the big weapons on zealot like keeping 100% uptime is impossible with crits and fast weapons?

[ivory canyon]

I only play auric yeah

[north solar]

these changes just confuse the shit out of me. Someone is clearly drunk at the office.

[scenic drift]

then idk, I rarely see arbys these days in auric and above

[ivory canyon]

I think vets in general are aight unless they are ammo vacuums. Same for ogryn wxcept if rumbler.

Psyker and arby can be pretty broken imo

[scenic drift]

when I was levelling ogryn, it was mostly arbys in low level lobbys tho

[real sonnet]

Pious Cut-Throat was just a better option all the time

[ivory canyon]

I think the matchmakinh is also very whacky

[copper hawk]

The knee capping of zealot continues unabated

[carmine falcon]

imma be honest if they are gonna keep nerfing cdr (which is fine) then nerf the damn spawns

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313671043629580309/1429793996728963072/Johndoe_kill_anim_1.gif

[carmine falcon]

i dont feel that spawns are lower at all

[real sonnet]

Vet shout got nerfed tho

[copper hawk]

Buff certain ults by reducing their refresh time

[frosty herald]

i mean

[ivory canyon]

Like rarely will i get put in a mission with 4 different classes

[copper hawk]

Nerf cdr

[tiny ruin]

Small rant, they preach about build diversity but they literally killed all the diversity options on arby today.

[ivory canyon]

Arby?

[tiny ruin]

Forcing arbies to the right keystone

[ivory canyon]

You can run anything on arby

[copper hawk]

Arby can run anything

Arby can run keystoneless

[north solar]

but it doesn't change anything except making it more difficult to keep uptime on the large signiture weapons on zealot?

[copper hawk]

Arby's individual talents are busted on their own

[exotic plaza]

why

[exotic plaza]

no?

[frosty herald]

i have almost 100% uptime on zealot with pious cuthroat

[exotic plaza]

?????????

[frosty herald]

its the best cdr option to have

even with relic blade or thammer

[solar gorge]

almost ?

it's literally 100%

[copper hawk]

Didnt arby get buffed on this last update

[exotic plaza]

you have to be literally ass at the game to not have it proc all the time tbf

[copper hawk]

Like duration extended

[solar gorge]

100% uptime

[north solar]

you can do the same exact thing with the crit version. easily

[ivory canyon]

Definetly not nerfed lol😂

[scenic drift]

riposte nerf??

[carmine falcon]

eo is still the best one tho

[solar gorge]

pious was the best in slot uncontested

[tiny ruin]

yes, nerf zealot, yes

[north solar]

this is my point

[ivory canyon]

Yeah i thought so too lol

When were we ever forced right?

[scenic drift]

I already skipped it since it had hubris tax

so why would they make it even shittier

fatshark pls

[real sonnet]

It makes Zealot run charge with the big weapons, so they take the crit one instead

[scenic drift]

[real sonnet]

I guess now you shouldn't run book with slow weapons ig

They just wanna gut book xddd

[solar gorge]

i shouldn't run book just cuz it's boring yawn

snork mimi

[ivory canyon]

Book was a havoc thing for me

Nothing else

[scenic drift]

hm? what do you mean?

[solar gorge]

it's cheese

like shout

gut shout more please

[scenic drift]

You have enough spare points that you can get either cdr keystone

[ivory canyon]

Shout is not as cheesy

You dont give allys as much tgh as book

[solar gorge]

when it's up all the time it is

[real sonnet]

+5% movement speed node is not a tax node

[scenic drift]

Yes?

[real sonnet]

It's actually good???

[scenic drift]

Yes?

[real sonnet]

Then it's not tax...

[ivory canyon]

Thats not the vets fault tho

Its psyker cdr

[scenic drift]

I never said movementspeed node was tax?

[carmine falcon]

also isnt the current havoc rotation absolute bullshit diff
worst time to cut down on cdr
cdr nerfs should come with less spawns and a more "appraochable" diff

[solar gorge]

you can have it extremely often with only vet's own cdrs

[exotic plaza]

no fuck you

[scenic drift]

It makes Zealot run charge with the big weapons, so they take the crit one instead
I was questioning the argument that big weapon zealot has to run charge and has to take crit cdr keystone.

[exotic plaza]

blue stim bulwark go

[north solar]

proving my point that they're just taxing the player for using the special melee options available to the zealot and incentivising using the small cross class weapons.

[exotic plaza]

[real sonnet]

Sh... 5 more crushers with rotten armor and purple

[solar gorge]

rotten armour, kill this guy's cpu

!!!

[exotic plaza]

they certainly don't test modifier before they put it in havoc for sure

[molten vector]

Guys why is it when everyone on the team is alive, enemies get destroyed left and right, but when I get downed my team becomes fucking useless and cannot kill anyone

[scenic drift]

look at scoreboard, it'll probably tell you.

[ivory canyon]

U were carrying

[carmine falcon]

im all for cdr nerfs because i think people spammed abilities too much but yeah idk wtf are they doing at m

[exotic plaza]

at least it gave me excuse to not play havoc for 2 week because it was crashing literally all havoc game

[solar gorge]

peam

[real sonnet]

Keeping headshots with slow weapons do be harder methinks

[solar gorge]

it was peam

[real sonnet]

So now that the reward is lower

[ivory canyon]

If they also immediatly fold you can tell you were carrying

[real sonnet]

Maybe crit with charge is more reliable

[north solar]

this is my main issue.

[scenic drift]

I guess it with thammer or something, no problems with relic blade here.

[molten vector]

We lost immediately when I got caught by trapper

[ivory canyon]

Yup

Sad but nothing you can do

[real sonnet]

Riposte nerf is silly indeed

It was already kinda ass

4 dodges for 20% dmg xdddd

Now it's 15%

Vet meanwhile gets 25% for just running lolololol

Or 25% for killing 1 trash mob with pew pew lol

[carmine falcon]

its ok they nerfed shouts and vets are probably giga coping rn

[ivory canyon]

I allways go out of my way to save people because thats exactly what i fear

As soon as 1 person goes down often the games collapse immediatly

[solar gorge]

voc nerfs heal my broken soul

i need more

[north solar]

fr

[scenic drift]

all arby +15% nodes...

[ivory canyon]

Wince the exe stance buffs i never took it again

[scenic drift]

tbf, we get sustained assault for basically free 20%

[north solar]

Zealot identity rn is basically just the ability to make yourself wonder why the fuck you're playing zealot

[carmine falcon]

nerfing anything melee related on zealot is funny asf to me because even if the nerfs are justified, you're nerfing the "melee" specalist that isnt exactly beating the none melee specialists in melee 🥴

bing bong wahoooooo

[scenic drift]

Only class with relic blade, so until they change that, I'm not swapping.

[carmine falcon]

ill always play zealot cause i love all the unique weapons and i enjoy fotf and shroudfield

[real sonnet]

You will play melee veteran and you'll love it

[carmine falcon]

simple as

[exotic plaza]

zealot will get a keystone that let them cleave carapace trust

[copper hawk]

How about some fucking rending in our talent tree