zealot-class

[hexed igloo]

Ingame chat exists you can always just let people know you're penance hunting

[lethal sedge]

Knife ain't very good above difficulty 3

[hexed igloo]

I myself got shocking stuff completely accidentally lmao

[hexed igloo]

Build for it homeski

[carmine lance]

I saw a bunch at comicon. I have no idea how people have the confidence to display that stuff in their homes where guests can see them

[plucky sparrow]

I did all my zealot penances very early thankfully

[hexed igloo]

It's easy just don't have guests

[plucky sparrow]

That’s the thing! They never have any guests!

[carmine lance]

Shit, you’re right

[heady rapids]

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSUumWJdT/

[lethal sedge]

I'm using crit stealth build

[hexed igloo]

The only people coming to my house are my friends that

1. fw it
2. don't care

[hexed igloo]

That's your issue then why are you using stealth build smh my head

[carmine lance]

If you want I can send you the bleed blazing piety build I use

[lethal sedge]

i thought stealth is good for knif\

the ability aint gonna fix the problems too much though its just too wimpy damage

[hexed igloo]

I mean if you want to use stealth sure

[lethal sedge]

i dont really

is kinda poopoo

[hexed igloo]

Then don't use it lmao

[scenic folio]

Aim ath ead

[hexed igloo]

Just use nothing but heavies and push attacks

[heady rapids]

goonnight chat

[hexed igloo]

It's like dueling sword you just use heavy thrusts to pop heads

[hexed igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/gn-chat-gif-9645953696583015458

[lethal sedge]

i do. damage is just too low

[scenic folio]

skill issue what can I say

Damage for me is great

I 4 tap Crushers

[carmine lance]

People who shit on stealth have yet to learn to master it

Knife zealot requires having a good sense of positioning

[copper hawk]

@royal vortex thoughtz ?

[carmine lance]

This is bad advice

Light spam into hordes

[south prism]

i hate this man's face so much

[carmine lance]

Shove and light spam

If using the mk 3

[hexed igloo]

Well yeah I thought that was a given

[carmine lance]

You said use heavies only

Heavies and push attack

[hexed igloo]

Yeah but why would you use heavies on poxwalkers

Hence why I thought that was a given

[carmine lance]

Stragglers in the way of me knife sprinting

[lethal sedge]

Yeah tahts what i do it just takes so long to kill stuff tho

which is the best mk knife?

[carmine lance]

I use the mk 3

[hexed igloo]

Knife has pretty dogshit damage outside of heavies anyway so like yeah

[visual stream]

It works pretty well with knife, Fury is also good for it

[hexed igloo]

I'm a big fury shill

[visual stream]

Backstab talents with shroud on knife, which also has a passive backstab bonus from what I hear, is very good

[hexed igloo]

Inexorable judgement my beloved

[carmine lance]

Dawg you’re giving conflicting advice, you’re still new to the game I thought

[lethal sedge]

well yeah fury is dope but i just need to actually deal damage and that just aint happening

[visual stream]

Knife is absurdly good

[hexed igloo]

Newer than you probably but I wouldn't say new new

[carmine lance]

Pipe down, reject

[lethal sedge]

It was really good diff 3 but diff 4 its like naw git fuk

[hexed igloo]

No I enjoy spreading misinformation

[visual stream]

You don't kill things in bursts like you do with thunder hammer, but you deal insane consistent damage

When the ball is rolling, you kill every gunner and shotgunner in one heavy or PA

Ragers in one crit as well I believe

[hexed igloo]

I've seen mfs dismantle crushers with it too

[visual stream]

It deals great damage against every armor type in the game and is hyper mobile while doing it

[lethal sedge]

Ah mk3 seems a lot better. the other must just be dogshit

[visual stream]

Both are good, mk3 is just even more single target damage

Mk6 helps with horde management

[carmine lance]

So I’m curious how you truly get the ball rolling

[visual stream]

I prefer 3 though

[carmine lance]

For me, ball rolling is 2 tapping elites at least

Maybe 5 tapping maulers

This is with uncanny strike fully procced

[visual stream]

Uncanny stacks, dodge talents, precog, Piety being up for more crits

[carmine lance]

I use riposte rather than precog

Should I not be using riposte

[visual stream]

Riposte is just more crit chance, which Scourge and Piety already give you lots of

Precog just makes your big damage even bigger

[carmine lance]

I’ll try it out with precog

See how it handles

[visual stream]

Pretty good

[carmine lance]

Because I’m used to critting on like every third swing

[visual stream]

That feels like the case with precog/uncanny as well

If you find that you want more crits then you can swap uncanny for riposte and that's still good

[lethal sedge]

is stealth or fury better for knife

[visual stream]

Just sacrificing armor damage

[visual stream]

Depends on how you use it and what you want out of it

[signal spoke]

Man got that zesty pose

[lethal sedge]

I want to kill the enemeies

[carmine lance]

Im ngl, using fury for knife just feels viscerally wrong

[visual stream]

Stealth encourages higher skill plays behind enemy lines and disruption, Fury encourages in-your-face gameplay

Both are good

[lethal sedge]

I will use fury then

[visual stream]

The build is your oyster

[lethal sedge]

the higher skill part is not very ideal

[carmine lance]

I love combat knife because I can go on brutal tears with it

[lethal sedge]

or should i use DS instad of knife?>

[scenic folio]

both are great.

[carmine lance]

Just gank everything I run by

[scenic folio]

DS is just better, but DS is better than everything so.

[carmine lance]

DS SUCKS because it’s so fucking boring

[visual stream]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lhK2MUOHcyR3sISIx
I love combat knife because this

[lethal sedge]

with ds you just spam light for hordes and charge to poke single targets?

[carmine lance]

My man, you fucking get it

I love how combat knife can do that stuff but you still can’t just turn your brain off with it

[visual stream]

Sprinting all the way around a corner and then back, into an incoming crusher overhead

Peak

[carmine lance]

That’s the true knife zealot experience

Or thinking you can close the gap on a trapper, but they get the net off right as the knife is inches away from plunging into their neck

Then you get curbstomped into the pavement by chaff

Because everyone else is caught up on stragglers

[dry hinge]

BF6 is pretty fun. Got it today

[carmine lance]

Nice!

[signal spoke]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G3UKfRyW8AgaE0p.gif

Does this to you all

[carmine lance]

Nah, I’d dodge it

[visual stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825569643564367883/1419365680305934377/slappin_it.gif

[carmine lance]

yeah but no ogryn gif is better than the 4 ogryn gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1382070913973092464/slap.gif

mauler abuse makes me laugh

[visual stream]

The progressively larger puddle of blood killing me

[visual stream]

Maulers are like crushers' annoying little brother

[carmine lance]

oh 100%

[royal vortex]

why would i have any

[hard nexus]

knife is very strong

[carmine lance]

knife fucks

[zinc talon]

ah, I see you mistakenly put an f where an s should be

happens to the best of us

^rare french W

[zinc talon]

suddenly O V E R H E A D!

perfectly timed to get you a second time, then your teamate and their little dog toto too

[lethal sedge]

why low damage

[plush estuary]

finesse scaling weapon

it wants crits and attack speed

finesse is weakspot and crit damage

if you have enough crit it will 1 shot every enemy

[zinc talon]

don't let them poison your ear with facts and reproducable results

knife sucks

you have the correct position

use any other weapon except duelling snored and you're already light years ahead of lame de combat simps

preferrably one with a chainsaw

although ainz is spot on and that's a good takeaway for other finesse heavy weapons like maybe 1h chainsword

(not duelling sword, duelling sword is just three knives in a trenchcoat)

[hard nexus]

hit heads

does 3x damage on weakspots

[frosty crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/wings-wingsofredemption-thor-stormbreaker-gif-15888988948364502772

has anyone made a slayer build

[hard nexus]

chastise IJ

n there u go

!

[frosty crescent]

fair enough

[hard nexus]

not really much to make urself a slayer

i guess martyrdom

[frosty crescent]

there is no two handed axe in this game though

[hard nexus]

instead of IJ

yeah closest is chaxe

[frosty crescent]

maulers use a two handed chainaxe
we dont have it

wasnt there a mastery icon for it?

[ripe quest]

it's a good video and that's a normal guy

I am totally not that guy

[frosty crescent]

sigh

[carmine lance]

i don't even rush, but it's extremely tiring to be going ahead because there's nothing going on, and seeing the rest of the team doing fuck all 50 miles away

[oak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[misty ravine]

Rule of traffic
Everyone slower than you is an idiot
Everyone faster than you is a maniac

[carmine lance]

TRUE

I know I play knife zealot, I know I go fast

but if I'm engaged with enemies for a prolonged amount of time, and you're far back

what the fuck are you doing

[lean cairn]

@plush estuary who was that saying about the dclaw revolver solo guy

oh apple tarts

i know another guy who uses the same loadout in solos but on psyker

[carmine lance]

just got called "tylenol zealot"

amazing lmao

oh god I got someone who just got to auric and is immediately going into maelstrom

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-metal-gear-rising-sundowner-red-sun-oneshot-niko-gif-25244576

[sweet onyx]

so is there any real benefit to mk3 eviscerator over mk15

[glossy nimbus]

Space Marine 2 is 27 dollars

holy shit

[hearty nebula]

real? ok buy it for me

thanks

[hearty nebula]

style points

take it or leave it

[mystic ether]

Lol my b.

Mostly build concepts. I have tons of experience eith it but I haven't settled on something more personally enjoyable. I can set aside like two builds with their own viability in higher difficulties. experimental builds are usually just making sure I can enjoy aurics bare minimum.

[copper hawk]

?

[long oasis]

how do you always get such massive concentrations of salt in your lobbies

my lobbies basically dont speak at all

we just vibin

[carmine lance]

they don't fuck with the 'tism

[placid fiber]

Salt is just drawn to some people

I mostly get the chill lobbies as well, myself

[carmine lance]

either that or I really am that fucking all over the place as knife zealot

[long oasis]

do u use scoreboard or power di or anything like that

[void bison]

"if you trip balls make sure you have a good trip sitter"

[long oasis]

who tf is nightcarp

bro they made him look so cool

[long oasis]

meanwhile the business out here looking like he sells used cars

[carmine lance]

scoreboard, yeah

[void bison]

the normal scoreboard or the DN scoreboard?

[carmine lance]

normal

[void bison]

that's the better one anyways

[plush estuary]

Rate the driller

[carmine lance]

hm

[carmine lance]

I'm thinking maybe precog is not it on the combat knife

[long oasis]

he looks like hes from DN

[carmine lance]

tho I shoudl also just be getting better at hitting weakspots

[plush estuary]

its so compressed

[void bison]

I only have 35 minutes left of national mushroom day

[placid fiber]

Oh God... I found this again in my solo dm chat...

[void bison]

quadruple mushroom BLAST

cleanse thy evil from this land!!!!!

[placid fiber]

0.001% better than the thing from before, good job on improving

[vast radish]

poking my head in from the void to ask
is it true the eviscerator is good now

[placid fiber]

Yes

[elfin thorn]

idk the chart for when heavy eviscerator has been good or bad, but atm it feels pretty nice

[vast radish]

nice to see zealot chat hasn't changed

[elfin thorn]

good damage and with perfect strike and some crits rolling in your cleave is pretty awesome sauce

[vast radish]

my main question is if they fixed that quirk with fury of the faithful

needing to activate it mid-special attack

[exotic plaza]

chainsword still better

literally everyway

[elfin thorn]

crit rev on the more single target heavy evis mark (overhead heavies) oneshots crushers on the noggin'

[exotic plaza]

yeah so does chainsword

[elfin thorn]

seems like it carries through with that on high havocs too

[exotic plaza]

and it faster

[plush estuary]

yes

[exotic plaza]

have better rev attack due to the fact it has bloodletter

[elfin thorn]

i don't know anything about chainsword so i can't say

[exotic plaza]

so better boss damage

[glad ermine]

Nothing impactful has changed with evisc, unlike the chainswords now, however zealot himself is looking better so 🤷‍♂️

[plush estuary]

no need to do it anymore

[exotic plaza]

way faster

90% of the damage

same horde clear

[elfin thorn]

it has been fixed

[vast radish]

fine ill try a chainsword

[elfin thorn]

you can normally ult and be fine now

[vast radish]

which mark of chainsword

[glad ermine]

Evisc is more fun imo, up to you tho

[vast radish]

and on that note, what tree?

[exotic plaza]

either piety or martydom

[vast radish]

piety, i don't like marty

[exotic plaza]

chainsword and evis are finesse weapon

[glad ermine]

Cadia mkIV is my personal fav, go Fotf and piety

[vast radish]

got eet boss

[hexed igloo]

Warm coat ❤️

[vast radish]

any build references would be nice as well so i can maximize this thing

[carmine lance]

I should genuinely make a compilation of people making a fuss over me for whatever reason lmao

[elfin thorn]

huh

[long oasis]

the difference being the king's followers pay taxes and he can afford a well equipped and trained standing army

[carmine lance]

guy catches me on a bit of an off day, then gets me again the next match

[vast radish]

thank u sah

[glad ermine]

Don't have to 1:1 this but reference point

[vast radish]

my turn to be shouty

[elfin thorn]

spicy

[glad ermine]

Kill them all in the name of the god emperor

[elfin thorn]

zealot chat scares me

[carmine lance]

I ask him "round 2?" trying to be a good sport, he goes "plz no..."

[hexed igloo]

The missing context is he's like "hmm no hero is coming I'll just go myself" and comes back with his head like "that was alright I guess"

[elfin thorn]

[carmine lance]

he's the first person to go down before even the first medicae

[vast radish]

i've seen things in this chat that make me fear it more than the kirby and sonic fandom

[carmine lance]

this is on chasm terminus, the assassination mission

[vast radish]

dreams of chronic and sustaine cruelty

[elfin thorn]

yeah

[elfin thorn]

nice

i had a guy who requested for ammo box and we all were low, and it was havoc, so i placed it

[carmine lance]

eventually I go down because I got grazed by a crusher overhead

[elfin thorn]

he nabbed all of it for his flamethrower, and then he ate an overhead and well

[carmine lance]

what a prick

[elfin thorn]

apparently his passive wasn't up 🤔

[carmine lance]

all that for nothing

how do you even eat it it's a full refill

[elfin thorn]

was quite a phenomenon seeing the rotten armor crusher cha cha real smooth and suddenly there's no more red fire

[elfin thorn]

havoc cuts it to half resupply iirc. i think another guy ate 2 portions cuz it disappeared and me and another guy didn't get our portion

[elfin thorn]

what happened next?

[vast radish]

oh what blessings on chainsword?

[carmine lance]

I jokingly said "how's that for "plz no" " since I still did a lot better than last match

he said the statement still stands since someone else was carrying us

some people just can't be pleased

[carmine lance]

[glad ermine]

Bloodletter/wrath and shred
Bloodletter is good at finishing off things you had to cancel halfway, wrath is helpful in havos for mixed hordes or walls of pox

[elfin thorn]

heh

sounds about right

[glad ermine]

I personally take wrath and shred, for i feel chainsword now is far too strong for me to care

But, up to you

[carmine lance]

but yeah usually I can be fucking cracked with knife zealot

sometimes I get trappered and go down a lot

[elfin thorn]

did they really buff chainsword like crazy sauce?

[carmine lance]

so it kinda depends on the day and how I'm feeling

[hexed igloo]

Trappers are incomprehensible the net quantum tunnels around me

[elfin thorn]

i haven't heard much talk of chainsword

[hexed igloo]

Oh hey a gtfo guy, baller

[elfin thorn]

knife zealot's alright but it's the opposite of my usual playstyle

i can work well with it though, but i usually only whip it out when the team wants to speedrun

or if i feel i gotta have mobility for this map/modifiers

[elfin thorn]

yeah

[glad ermine]

It got pretty decent buffs yes, namely the evisceration itself and finesse multiplier changes, if i recall correctly

[elfin thorn]

i love dmr and hel rifle. bio tracker enjoyer

[hexed igloo]

I don't fw knife on zealot but convict with a knife fuck yeah

[hexed igloo]

Mine dropper chad here

Big fan of the shotfun + hel revolver

[carmine lance]

The mobility just feels really good

[elfin thorn]

i keep trying to make hel revolver work but i enjoy dmr a lot more

[hexed igloo]

I can't deal with the windup on the other hel guns

[spare talon]

i want to play darktide but i dont want to deal with havoc shit and auric is too boring

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[elfin thorn]

and i work better with a scope than ironsights
i used to be a sniper enjoyer, but they threw a curveball and nerfed it at the last second for some reason lol

[hexed igloo]

As long as my team has like assault rifles n shit I like to use the choke shotgun

Otherwise iirc I used the heavy smg

Haven't played in fuckin ages

[elfin thorn]

i don't wanna use the overperforming weapons, but i am fascinated with the thought of sawed off shotgun and hel rifle

[elfin thorn]

nice

[hexed igloo]

I have no clue what the meta is

[elfin thorn]

if it's stronger than heavy eviscerator then that's unfortunate, but at least it got some love

i don't know the state of chainsword pre-buff though

[hexed igloo]

Buff the evis make it 40% bigger

It should have more cleave tho tbh

[glossy nimbus]

Thammer needs a few buffs, atleast give it better cleave

does thammer have wrath

[elfin thorn]

bruh

i bought a handful of weapons to power level and only a few registered in inventory

that's a new one

[elfin thorn]

nope

[glossy nimbus]

Thats ass

[ivory marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757149846636593172/1428243774160502884/RDT_20251015_2350375527744276434270006.gif

Solid 7/10 new syndicate

Mod quest is funky tho

Weird seeing teshin still alive

[elfin thorn]

thammer's got mostly stagger with the usual headtaker, slaughterererer, thrust, and brittle on hit ig

[winter oxide]

shock and awe

[ripe quest]

It has fine single target now and it's still top tier for crowd damage.

Evis and Chaxe are going to hit harder for single target but Chainsword isn't specced for that so it's fine.

[elfin thorn]

thanks

on a related note, how is chain axe? i dont normally look at axes due to verm's experience, but i rarely see chain axe around

[delicate shadow]

chain axe is aight but it's clunky feeling

not for everyone

[sterile basalt]

It doesn’t rly need it

[visual stream]

Curious

[calm charm]

Confuse the enemy

[ripe quest]

It's stellar for single target, poor versus crowds.

[calm charm]

Funni sword

[vast radish]

who the heck is going solo knife zealot at 1 in the morning -3-

[obsidian prairie]

Ainz

Probably

[vast radish]

and i mean one of those zealots, the ones that rush a mile ahead and take everything for themselves

[elfin thorn]

the goat

[plush estuary]

its only 10:30

I was

was doing a few solos

[obsidian prairie]

Correct coaster??

[spare talon]

not me waiting for them to drop down so i can fight the dh

[lunar fable]

Wrong

EST >>>>

[plush estuary]

look at arby hp

@smoky oak

captain bug

[visual stream]

da brap bomb

nurgle's strongest weapon

[smoky oak]

That's wild, never seen that ever

[visual stream]

bubble brap even

[plush estuary]

through gold toughness

[smoky oak]

Well I learned something new

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-omw-otw-on-my-way-on-the-way-gif-18162466

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-hi-hello-omg-hi-omg-hi-hello-hi-gif-26945826

[ivory marlin]

Look at him

Hes so polite

[ivory marlin]

Big fan

[cobalt depot]

heya zealots, im having this specific issue, with the ironhelm hammer. the second heavy was canceled, but far as i'm aware not by anything i did or got hit by (have uninterruptible heavy attacks). i dont have this issue with crucis. only other mention of it i can find in here is from someone just over a week ago who isnt here anymore, wondering if someone here can enlighten me on if its a known bug, or something im doing wrong?

[misty nova]

When in doubt

Sprint cancelled

[glad ermine]

That looks like your sprint input timed just right (well, just wrong) with your heavy

Higui got a good point

[formal umbra]

Yeah that looks like a sprint cancel

[cobalt depot]

i was holding sprint the whole time iirc

i tend to

its weird that only ironhelm has done this though

[blazing cosmos]

Chat which zealot personality talks the most

[cobalt depot]

it happened a TON throughout the match

bad enough to make me set on crucis until i figure out a work around that isnt pattern breaking from every other big slow melee weapon i use

[ivory marlin]

The scottish one i think

Unless they are all scottish then idr

[cobalt depot]

that'd be fanatic i suppose

tho idk about talking more or less than the others

[glad ermine]

This is very common with sprinting, drawn out heavies, it's a little hard to explain because it's something that happens in the heat of the moment, but likely your inputs went like sprint -> h1 -> h2 -> let go of attack input, which likely triggered the light last thing due to you both charging the attack for long and running out of stam in the process, this proccess sort of resetting your input. Is the best I can put it

But again it's something i'd have to see hands on keyboard to pinpoint

And hey playing crucis is not a bad thing, it's honestly much better than ironhelm but if you like iron you like iron

[cobalt depot]

ill run a test in psyk real quick with this intntion

yup

sprint, heavy 1 goes through, 2nd cancels

[glad ermine]

Yeah thought so

These are very common

All i can say is

Line up your fotf charges well

To eliminate the need to sprint

Look at the guy yer gonna bonk and try to time the heavy charge

[cobalt depot]

weirdly enough, its ONLY h2... and if i let go of sprint before i release LMB, it goes through also

[glad ermine]

Yes

Sprint input is messing it up

[ripe quest]

have uninterruptible heavy attacks
Fun fact this wouldn't help you since it's programmed incorrectly. The talent doesn't work right atm.

[cobalt depot]

damn

:(

thanks though

free point

[glad ermine]

[cobalt depot]

that actually explains a fuckton

[misty nova]

Mad funny though

[ivory marlin]

Exhil whats your go to weapon loadout on zealot rn

[misty nova]

They recently fixed Crucis sprint cancel

[glad ermine]

This is what i've been running for some time now

[glad ermine]

Crucis is the beloved child

[cobalt depot]

so its a choice between, be more mindful, or bonk

[ripe quest]

Mk II Relic Blade + Agri Brauto is something I fiend w/ atm but I have been enjoying Mk IV Chainsword + Zarona Rev on an IJ setup lately.

[ivory marlin]

Isnt chainsword poop water rn or am i just insane and huffing paint again

[ripe quest]

I want to make a proper Caxe Shroudfield setup, prob will make it an Agri Railgun build

[glad ermine]

Yeah tbh, just let fotf boost you through by actually looking at your target first or any other guy near it, power through with a late H1, better late than early

[ripe quest]

So, it's still got the top tier crowd clear but the recent changes made the single target tolerable. Plus with the Zealot buffs you have more damage to work with.

[glad ermine]

I smell paint

[ivory marlin]

Oh ok

[glad ermine]

[ripe quest]

It was a fine weapon prior just kinda specced, now it's really good.

[glad ermine]

Yes

Now i just wait for my beloved

Eviscerator

I'm happy as is but

FS definitely has beef eith evisc

[blazing cosmos]

Evisceraor feels really nice

I love the wide swings on the shove

[glad ermine]

Yes, it's one of my favorite weapons to play, mk3 evisc

With perfect strike

You line up your horizontal attacks just right

You hit an entire conga line of carapace

[ivory marlin]

They should add my cat concrete to darktide

[blazing cosmos]

If it can one shot a mutie with the power charge I'm a hally camper

[ivory marlin]

He wouldn’t do much aside from scream and sleep

But hed do a fine good job at it

[blazing cosmos]

Average psyker build

[ivory marlin]

Lmao

[glad ermine]

My old cat was somehow grumpier than me

[ivory marlin]

I have the sweetest boy

[blazing cosmos]

Add concrete to darktide 2026

[glad ermine]

She ate, scratched, hissed at everything nearby, took shits and slept

[ivory marlin]

Look at his face hes so sweet

[blazing cosmos]

I just have a Garfield 💔

[ivory marlin]

Wouldn’t hurt a fly unless that fly was very bite sized bits of kibble and duck

And pieces of chicken

Also i recently realized his head is huge compared to regular cats

Like he lost 90% of leg length of regular cats due to him being a munchkin but his head makes up for it

[blazing cosmos]

He has a lot on his mind

Smart lad

[ivory marlin]

Uhhhh

Idk

He seems

Not smart

[ripe quest]

I'm extremely upset with how the Mk III has been treated so far. Like it has really cool combos but most people just use weaker stuff bc it's simpler, then the Mk XV got overbuffed in relation to make it hard to justify the Mk III.

[glad ermine]

I know, right. It's a shame that the balancing is done this way, especially towards more interesting variants (hell, i'm honestly looking at you too, my cadian chainsword). The thing that most bugs me about evisc though is that, if it weren't for fotf and perfect strike, evisc would be... troublesome

Like

On its own

As a design for a weapon its just ehhh

But it is incredibly fun so 🤷‍♂️

[scenic drift]

mkxv is now solid, calling it overbuffed is pretty 💀

[glad ermine]

Compared to the mk3 treatment, i believe he meant

[scenic drift]

also I personally hate combos and will either skitarius or just not play a weapon with some 6 dimensional chess shit.

[glad ermine]

Well, that about sums it up lol

[scenic drift]

Kruber's executioner sword is peak weapon design for me.

[glad ermine]

Thing is, rewarding simple gameplay is not very smart from a design perspective

Like the relic blade

Mk2's uppercuts are amazing and i love the thing, but mk10 is brain off whilst being very good, for what it is

[scenic drift]

I don't agree with that at all.

If I wanted to learn combos I'd play a fighting game.

[glad ermine]

It's a core gameplay mechanic of the game

No game is just 1 thing

So many games have combos

Not just fighting ones

What if you didn't have mods

[scenic drift]

Considering there are many weapons where you have reasonable chains, can't agree.

All the meta choices are fairly straight forward as well.

[glad ermine]

If FS took weapon combos lightly, i don't think they'd have designed full weapon attack types, charts, and made more complicated variants

Tbh "meta" also tries to tend to as many people as possible

[scenic drift]

Yet they allow skitarius.

[glad ermine]

And most cannot use more complicated variants

[scenic drift]

No, that is not what meta means.

Well, in most people's mind anyway.

[glad ermine]

Of course, but that happens in every case. Something you'll hear very commonly in meta videos, variants that lots of people can simply use and do lots of damage with (duelling sword)

[scenic drift]

Actually, are there any complex combo weapons that people consider top-tier?

[glad ermine]

I wouldn't know tbh, i don't take from others nor watch content creators, i can only speak from experience

[scenic drift]

Something you'll hear very commonly in meta videos

I wouldn't know tbh, i don't take from others nor watch content creators

I uhh...

[glad ermine]

There's A LOT they're unaware of, just yesterday there was a video posted of a guy running every mod under the sun, literally cheating through at that point

[scenic drift]

Well not literally.

[glad ermine]

I still have discord lol, people talk

[scenic drift]

If fatshark hasn't disallowed the mods he used, he wasn't cheating, literally.

[glad ermine]

If fatshark was aware this would be different lol

But they're not and it's understandable

Nobody can keep up

When you make mods client side this way

Now whether that'a a good or bad thing that's up to you

But returning to the original point

It's still not good videogame design

It comes down to the basic logic of

Getting rewarded for playing the more complicated thing

That simple

[scenic drift]

I don't think you should be rewarded for learning a combo, in Darktide.

I think that you should have wide attacks on one type of attack, heavy attacks on another.

And considering we have things like Relic Blade or ASM or DS, then I think fatshark is well aware that a lot of people don't care about combo centric gameplay.

[glad ermine]

That is why variants exist, to please both sides

They're simply not well balanced most of the time

Because i personally like difficulty and complexity

[scenic drift]

Oh absolutely, most weapons are absolute dogwater in my book.

[glad ermine]

I can't play with a weapon like that

I'd get bored

[scenic drift]

and usually you have 1 variant being not dogshit.

[glad ermine]

Yeah

[scenic drift]

I don't think I've played anything besides relic blade since it got added.

Feels so good.

On Kruber I think I have like 500 hours with executioner

And on Kerillian probably another 300 with dual daggers.

I'd kill for dual daggers

[void bison]

dual daggers and a flaming zweihander

[glad ermine]

Maybe if we get a callidus assassin

But idk what new class will be tbh

Flaming zweihander would just be librarian force swords

Unlikely we see it here though

[blazing cosmos]

Fist weapons when.

Crusader cestus build.. 🤤

[glad ermine]

Certainly wouldn't hurt lol

I hope it goes

VVVRRRTTT BOOOOMM

Implodes things

[ivory marlin]

I hope the alt attack is a quick stab as a little nod to knife alt attack

[median steeple]

COD acting like the Bo7 beta wasn't the lowest played in their history

[elfin thorn]

so like a combat knife, but instead of having mobility it has more raw damage?

[ripe quest]

Well, it has more raw damage but less finesse. They have some similarities output wise but iirc the single target spec knife has worse crowd clear than Chaxe in general, and each scale better with differing things. Raw damage is easier to come by.

[glad ermine]

You'll be just fine tbh you have the utility needed to make up for it as zealot

Plus you can alwaysss manage

Learn combos well

Spend time with it

Possibly, take it to bed with you

[placid fiber]

[glad ermine]

Man has to keep himself company somehow

[placid fiber]

Tru

[minor pebble]

Is chaxe as good as the eviscerator??

[scenic drift]

No.

[minor pebble]

o

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1334710158525202443/99vpAu6.gif

[mystic ether]

Anyone got some tips for some shroudfield build skeletons? I think I'm almost there with what I'm trying to do.

[placid fiber]

Idk, skeletons are kinda spooky... (idk, otherwise I'd help)

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-terrifying-horror-bunny-roomba-gif-3761752394286498185

[mystic ether]

I'm trying to figure out three different builds with each keystone as the anchor. I'm already familiar with thunder hammers, duelling swords, combat blades, combat axes (rashad) and tactical axes. The ranged weapons I'm rotating are the boltgun, revolver and flamer. I can't really think of other weapons I'd want to try squeezing in let alone how to make the most of them. I guess bolt pistol isn't an awful choice.

[mystic ether]

It's mostly a lot of the same things I suppose with major talents being the core classics already easily gained. I'm trying to find ways to make use of some of the final tier of nodes. Can't make up my mind.

Blazing piety is an easy choice for the knives, ds and taxes.

[signal spoke]

You triggering my phatom skeleton phobia for mentioning it

[mystic ether]

Ij isn't bad either but I always have a harder time deciding how much of my play i want centered around it.

[signal spoke]

skeletons scare the fuck out me

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-skeleton-meme-skeleton-gta-sa-stinli99-gif-7486505081149175273

[glad ermine]

My go to. Do what you want with the keystones, tbh i don't use shroudfield, but i used to in the past

[mystic ether]

Piety and martyrdom don't exactly require my upkeep to always be bound to dodging and sprinting.

But high mobility antics is the name of the game on right tree anyway

[glad ermine]

This is showing some obvious bias for IJ i am aware, but that just suggests what i like pairing shroudfield hammer with tbh

It's like

IJ won't help you with insta bonks

But it will give you what shroudfield lacks

Sutain and consistency

[mystic ether]

Yeah most of this is where I've settled. I might just steer the rest of the base skeleton towards right tree for a different path. Kinda wish the bonus elite dmg wasn't fit through Providence but whatever. It's shroudfield behavior so that's easy to use.

||(I'll be setting up people to get smacked anyway so free revive for bonus defense is the secret support buff lol)||

[glad ermine]

Compared to say, a fotf thammer build

Providence is a mandatory tax ig

🤷‍♂️

[mystic ether]

I honestly don't mind it for thrust thammer because I already got a good handle on my movement anyway. I just hate how it can feel when I trip over uptime.

[glad ermine]

Ye

As i was saying like it dont matter

[mystic ether]

But that's ye olde skill issue fr.

[glad ermine]

Sustain will help you more in the long run

[mystic ether]

And for the more mobile choices, it's easy fit.

[glad ermine]

And IJ does just that

[mystic ether]

Trhe.

And my mobility in this case is my sustain, or at least the main path to it. Gotta smack em.

[glad ermine]

Ok like ideally piety has better survivability but no shot you're reaching that without omega taxes.

Yeah

[mystic ether]

For that I'm okay with if I'm doing tac axe or something. Piety will just fuel everything so one way or another, I'm cycling shroudfield the more I stay proactive. Bleed stuff is nice too for larger targets if I can't afford to burst things down

Martyrdom and shroudfield is an interesting and odd choice but with a lot of right tree pathing I feel like it's not too bad to use with bottom right leftover node choices. Thammer Martyrdom with shroudfield feels fine when I'm not shitting the bed on basic defense. Rare but that's the only time it feels bad.

[glad ermine]

Yeah

[mystic ether]

I guess the real choice here is what kind of utility i want to play with in the moment between these setups.

[glad ermine]

I've never been a marty guy personally but it's even better now so eh

[mystic ether]

Are cdr curios easy money for zealot still?

[glad ermine]

If i would still be running shroudfield thammer, i would be running that IJ route all and all

[mystic ether]

Especially with piety builds?

[glad ermine]

I've always ran ability cdr on my curious tbh

Some people don't like them but

You never know

[mystic ether]

I'm thinking of cdr for the piety version.

[glad ermine]

I run 3x cdr, 3x toughness, 1x health 2x gunner res on my curio perks

[mystic ether]

Maybe something general for martyrdom because that's just easy to think about and then more touches of stamina regen and sprint efficiency for at least one max stam curio.

[golden flint]

How does one deal with grenade drought

[acoustic dune]

Chat

[placid fiber]

tknives

[mystic ether]

I usually take throwing knives because I like them too much so grenades aren't something I miss often.

[acoustic dune]

What would you do if a pair of floating watermelon is infront of you when you wake up

And still infront of you when you get up

[golden flint]

I mean other than knives

[mystic ether]

Deeply concerned because fruit doesn't just float in front of my face.

[golden flint]

Why a pair of floating watermelon specifically

[acoustic dune]

It make sci-fi noise every time you think of the floating water melon

[mystic ether]

I usually just get lucky with veterans running field improvisation. Otherwise I just keep a lookout for grenades for pickups and setting up my nades for the most efficient use in the moment.

[acoustic dune]

Scifi sound #4

[signal spoke]

love me some gay men

[glad ermine]

I'll just plop this here as a last thing. Maybe give it a whirl if you have the time for it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/it-sounds-like-science-fiction-pierce-hawthorne-community-that's-straight-out-of-sci-fi-gif-3723834838728369786

[void bison]

https://youtu.be/-T1Uwy8ptpo?si=tUTi11CRc3RnVNGd

[mystic ether]

Your other option is maybe running a mission with enhanced blitz. Zealot usually gotta be more discerning with their grenades save for throwing knives.

[acoustic dune]

When you get out of house you see people people with a pair of fruit infront of them

[mystic ether]

What's the node above benediction again?

[placid fiber]

What are people people? Is that a new brand of people?

[placid fiber]

10% attack speed iirc

[golden flint]

Crazy that vet gets infinite grenade restoration and zealot has to treat em like gold

[scenic drift]

left guy was peak wizard

[placid fiber]

Yep, I was right. Faithful Frenzy

[glad ermine]

10% melee atk speed

[scenic drift]

Only had to melee once

[glad ermine]

Very good overall imo

[acoustic dune]

And when 6 fruit line up
They will make a noise and the fruit implode violently and kill peoples in a 50 meter radius

[mystic ether]

Vet also is a self-generator for nades so

[golden flint]

Wdym

[acoustic dune]

People whom are better then you

[elfin thorn]

does it not hit as hard?

[acoustic dune]

(They eat there daily fruit)

[placid fiber]

violent explosion noises in the distance

[mystic ether]

They got stuff in their kit made to cycle nades better compared to other classes. About...four talents iirc?

[glad ermine]

This is why we cope and seethe with knives when stunstorm has advantage paried with weapons that can do long range acquisition

[acoustic dune]

Pretty much yeah

[mystic ether]

Grenadier, field improvisation, tinkerer and whatever the 60 minute one is.

[golden flint]

Thats what I mean though, they can use blitzes very frequently

[acoustic dune]

You find out that your gf have peaches and now a giant ARSE

[mystic ether]

And demolition team if it procs which they themselves can trigger from killstreaks.

[scenic drift]

honestly all nades should get free 1-2 minute regen.

[placid fiber]

saves stunstorms for clutches...
has opportunity to use them...
forgets to use them to help clutch...

[acoustic dune]

You look down to your man tits it's bigger

[golden flint]

Or just add like a singular grenade pickup like small ammo boxes

[scenic drift]

idk, I hate the moveset

eviscerator feels a lot better for me.

[scenic drift]

impossible!

[glad ermine]

Chainaxe has very good single target

[scenic drift]

also when I was slogging through nade penances, it felt like there were so few nade pickups

[placid fiber]

Fatshark is too busy buffing classes to think about quality of life things such as this

[scenic drift]

but when I play knives, nade is everywhere

[mystic ether]

Sorta. If they're being e tremely liberal with it, they have to be weaving in kills by themselves and feeding off of coherency bonuses and their own output to keep spinning demolition. Veteran grenade drought takes slightly longer. If they ever drop an ammo crate and got the talent though, you can just grab one at any time and feed yourself.

[placid fiber]

ikr?

[mystic ether]

And luckily, field improvisation is more common these days.

[scenic drift]

I swear there's inverse scaling on nade drops

[placid fiber]

4 psykers? 50349853049850349 nade drops
4 zealots, all with nades? 2.3

[golden flint]

The ogryn running the big grenade eating all the boxes

[elfin thorn]

looking forward to trying it out tomorrow

[grizzled aspen]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ljofK5XUFCvTvXOlt?invite=cr-MSxsUUEsMjY5OTA3MzMz&v=15

Dogs defying the laws of physics yet again.

[glad ermine]

Ask papa willy in here for chainaxe combos, i'm more of an evisc main sadly, he will do the job better than i

[void bison]

did you hear that mingus was arrested

[ripe quest]

chainaxe combos

[calm charm]

Me

[calm charm]

Also me

[glad ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/space-king-spaceking-warhammer40k-warhammer-40k-gif-3981186648276753091

[calm charm]

Which eviscerator better btw? Mk 3 or 15

I've been using 15 because it seems to have better wave clear but i may be wrong

[glad ermine]

Mk15 is simpler and does have some stagger advantage, mk3's lights are more benefitial in mixed hordes and packs of elites overall. Also this is a littoe specific but mk3's h1 horizontal heavily synergyzes with perfect strike

However mk15's heavies are more straightforward and raw damaging

But uh, fotf gallore, use it

[calm charm]

I run shred and rampage on mk15

[calm charm]

No idea what that means

[signal spoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1978449717680861604 is this fucking based on that incident lmao

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[calm charm]

Wasnt this movie teased like a bajillion years ago

[signal spoke]

Never heard of it before

Also the stock chimp noises

[mystic ether]

FotF = fury of the faithful. It's the charge ability that you start out with on zealot.

[calm charm]

I remember seeing it years ago

[calm charm]

Ye the acronyms just don't do it for me in this game

I played in my native language for the first 60 hours

[mystic ether]

No problem.

[void bison]

splash water on that fool rabies gives you hydrophobia

[mystic ether]

Maybe take that one lingering neutral node on the first one and take that bottom left node for crit on bleed stacks for evis. More chances to spin crits for your ability cdr proc.

[calm charm]

?

[mystic ether]

Yeah

[calm charm]

Something was off before

The one on the right is what im using rn

[calm charm]

Alright

[mystic ether]

What's the one for the bottom left node in the middle path you took? I forgot the name and what it does.

[calm charm]

Unfaltering

No movement speed penalty for heavies

But I think it's not that necessary if i run fotf

I used it a lot on knife and thammer

Also, should I replace those two perks with something else?
I do know I will save like one point and sacrifice good balance for it, but I really feel like providence is there just to reach said good balance

[swift hearth]

h40 solo runners are insane

https://tenor.com/view/wat-what-huh-confused-kitten-gif-16578675544592554435

[acoustic dune]

did he sleep beofre 3 aam

[swift hearth]

who knows i wonder if he's on something

[trail grove]

Should Zealots get Crusader sword and shield?

[swift hearth]

guy lives in a different realm

he makes no typos while clutching solo run

[acoustic dune]

he is on life

[signal spoke]

https://youtu.be/_ukYbwtMdwo?si=whWvl_yQ0zhT0nFt CUH? PvP mode for trials

[hearty nebula]

why all my games running better than they ever did on windows

getting like 10 more fps in darktide

15-20 more on hd2

https://tenor.com/view/abysmal-dogshit-gif-12732720091837856159

[frosty herald]

space marine 2 now has a demo

[drowsy steppe]

https://youtu.be/AzPIgPTPuOA the entire collargate scandal explained

[acoustic dune]

how is it

[frosty herald]

mf i own the game

why would i need to play the demo

[acoustic dune]

curiousity

[acoustic dune]

if this is how hasan is getting put down

it would be cinema

[hearty nebula]

true

[acoustic dune]

ey catt

[hearty nebula]

wot

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pressure-roblox-roblox-meme-pressure-roblox-sebastian-gif-10563305548859580578

@hearty nebula me when i ge tyou

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-cat-silly-ahh-silly-ahh-cat-goofy-gif-15009262023119441493

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/206466559672188928/1336144554323218454/Sigle_optimized.gif

[mystic ether]

Unless you're really deadset on gaining that combat quality of life node from unfaltering, you could replace it with good balance if you really wanted it, maybe even drop it underneath the bleed talen on bottom left of the piety path. One gives damage reduction from dodging, something you'll always be needing to do at some point for easy snappy defense or maybe, the other boosts your damage in the first place off of your bleeds. For eviscerator zealot that's already something you can play off of further. Your choice ultimately.

I'd probably skip unfaltering unless I'm trying to squeeze out that utility for a thammer build more than eviscerators.

[tropic egret]

"I can't go on until y'all die"
Why couldn't he go on, why did he need you all to die?

[trail grove]

Judging by the map, I think he's at the last part while the other hadn't even reached the end of the second/third part.

[tropic egret]

Oh yeah, that would do it. You can't move through elevators or progress to the next stage if your team isn't with you

[calm charm]

Fair nuff.

So I'll just go back to the first iteration with bleeds

[trail grove]

Yep.

Imagine if we get this next.

[full nebula]

crrrrazy hahmbooger

[solar gorge]

any ult that pulls you upward is a bad idea to pre-fire while in hotel guest

cuz you'll hit the ceiling of the hotel and won't be able to rise any higher so you'll pop back at ground level

I did this with abrams and you end up looking dumb as shit

[swift hearth]

he can't get speedrun and unlock the next room unless everyone in revive spawn

[hard nexus]

unfaltering makes thammer an amazing choice, but it’s not very needed on knife

just take TWBS with knife and u get the same value

[normal shell]

@south prism am i strong

[frosty herald]

does make knife feel alot faster

[hard nexus]

blinded by blood, the bleed talent ur talking about, is actually pretty bad

15% damage sounds good, but you actually have to the be the one to apply the initial stack of bleed, so if you’re in a game with a shredder frag vet, or batter up ogryn (every ogryn has batter up), you’ll be getting pretty minimal use out of it

and unfaltering is basically required with thammer

[hard nexus]

does it?

i meant to test it a while ago but i forgot

[sterile stone]

So hold on

You got recaptured after Amelia helped you escape?

[frosty herald]

@hard nexus

[solar gorge]

it's minimal

but it does improve it

[calm charm]

No i ran it on knife because it was simply fun
The talk here was about evis

[heady rapids]

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FixupX · Oct 12, 2025, 8:52 AM

[calm charm]

Also, is it just me or evis sometimes pulls yo camera down at feet level?

Or drags camera after enemies, making you do 180

[solar gorge]

rare jank with the lock on mechanic

happened to me rarely

[calm charm]

I have that happen to me once or twice a match

Well, the 180

[solar gorge]

usually when your swing gets caught on something you weren't intending to hit

[calm charm]

Drag at feet happens very often

Had it happen like 7-8 times in a span of 3 minutes

[solar gorge]

uh

I've encountered that but not frequently so idk

[calm charm]

Another question

Is there any weapon on zealot that has a similar moveset to blaze gsword?

The one without swipe on heavy

[hard nexus]

happens with sawing weapons

it’s most noticeable against burgles

[solar gorge]

the blue evisc has only heavy strikedowns if that's what u want

forgot the mk number

it's blue

dabadee

[hard nexus]

mk2 relic blade has uppercut

[solar gorge]

danbadoo

[hard nexus]

very fun

[hard nexus]

mk15

[solar gorge]

bloog

my favourite moveset all classes included is crusher personally

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis is mine

[hushed knoll]

HI LAMBDA NOTICES U

[solar gorge]

stan

good early afternoon

free access to arc raiders for 3 days starting tomorrow for people interested

pretty goog

[heady rapids]

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSUHQMATL/

where is my embed

https://fixtiktok.com/ZSUHQMATL/

[hushed knoll]

It’s early morning

[solar gorge]

no

it's past 12

[acoustic dune]

@violet hornet @long oasis @void bison

GUH

[heady rapids]

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSUHXtUMJ/

[spice flame]

3 x Combat ability cooldown or 2 x Gunner resistance and 1 ordo docket?

[dull iris]

ordo docket?

[spice flame]

more coins

or switch it to sniper resistance

bro I need coins

[heady rapids]

generally taking damage is not required to play the game

[sterile stone]

You don't run aurics?

[heady rapids]

so you're better off with 3x ordo

[spice flame]

I do

[sterile stone]

Maelstroms?

[spice flame]

I might wanna do more of those

[sterile stone]

For sure them missions payout fat chunks

[spice flame]

but is Combat ability cooldown better than gunner res?

[sterile stone]

Gunner resis is good, but it has diminishing returns on the 3rd one.

[dull iris]

on the second one

[sterile stone]

I think with all 3 curios with gunner resis it hits 48% total.

That's still good mind you.

[heady rapids]

20 36 48.8 I think

third one giving you ~13%

[sterile stone]

Yeah

And given the sheer amount of gunners, plasma gunners, and shotgunners

That shit is valuable.

[drowsy furnace]

prolly a stupid question but does enduring faith effect refresh if you score another critical hit before it expires?

[dull iris]

did they make plasma gunners count as gunners finally

[sterile stone]

@spare talon Might know.

Or

@ripe quest

[heady rapids]

check kuli

[signal oyster]

is there a good fotf + thunder hammer build that doesnt use martyrdom?

[misty nova]

"Good" and "doesn't use martyrdom"

Your other option is Inexorable Judgment

The cursed option is Stalwart

But hammer doesn't get to play with Crits that much

[signal oyster]

would inexorable judgment work then or is it silly to not just go martyrdom atm?

[misty ravine]

Inexorable Judgement is safer (it also has dodge buffs that are still unlisted), Marty is higher risk/reward

[misty nova]

Except there's no risk

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[solar gorge]

peak

[spice flame]

what's the dump on relic blade

[glossy nimbus]

Mob

[sterile stone]

@frosty herald The grind to level 1000 nears closer and closer

[placid fiber]

mobility

[acoustic dune]

mob

[ivory marlin]

Didn’t you shit on someone for being tl 1000 once

[sterile stone]

No?

[ivory marlin]

Hm

Who am i remembering then

[sterile stone]

Like when the game was less than a year old I was surprised to see a level 1000

But outside of that I don't think I've ever shit on anyone for being in the thousands

[modern quest]

Is there a new version of the stealth zealot glass cannon?

Here's the barebones I came up with, intention is to spam crits with shroudfield

6 points left anything I should add or remove?

[modern lintel]

guh

nuh

[modern quest]

?

Gonna use em points anyway

[sterile stone]

I dunno if it's just me but why the fuck does every class that's not vet and psyker feel like they swing their melee in slow motion

[modern lintel]

bring it back to the drawing board

[modern quest]

Any tips?

Or was you talking to the other guy

Switched invocation of death to pious cuthroat

[carmine lance]

Take the bleed perks

[ivory marlin]

I feel like my arb swings with the force of a nuke but hits with the force of a not a nuke

[carmine lance]

That’s free crits

[modern quest]

Yeah got that one from the leftmost purple thing

[carmine lance]

Hold on

Here’s what I run

[modern quest]

Lemme see

[modern quest]

This current now

[carmine lance]

Pious cutthroat compensates for perfectionist

Can get rid of it

[modern quest]

Where perfectionist

[carmine lance]

End of shroudfield

[modern quest]

Oh yeah true it useless ish now

Ok one more point left

[carmine lance]

It’s nice, but pious cutthroat is procced near constantly because why are you not headshotting chaff

[modern quest]

Might just get the ranged buff for some sniping specials cause I run this with revolver/bolt pistol and combat knife/ds

[carmine lance]

Brother no

You do not need that

[misty nova]

https://x.com/am00ry15/status/1978697255252017544?s=19

Omar (@am00ry15)

@Un4v5s8bgsVk9Xp

X · Oct 16, 2025, 5:39 AM

[modern quest]

Cause of the knives?

[carmine lance]

Just use the build I sent it’s good for combat knife

[sterile stone]

I remember launch arby use to have relatively fast light attacks

Now I see why they aren't picked as much now

Class isn't as enjoyable as it once was.

[ivory marlin]

I heavy spam

[sterile stone]

Yeah lemme wind up each heavy attack when I'm encircled by ragers, crushers, and flamers

Lemme do that

On havoc

[ivory marlin]

Lmao

I have no issue

[modern quest]

Combat knife is for fun games ds is for serious tough stuff

What curios u running?

My old one had hp and stamina main stat and combat ability regen stamina regen and toughness regen speed

[misty nova]

Just use the shock mine attack speed exploit

[sterile stone]

Needing a exploit to fix a flawed character isn't a proper fix

[misty nova]

Always called Arby's mid

They still are

[sterile stone]

Launch arby was a menace idk man

Like I get why it needed nerfs

But god damn

If dlc characters are gonna be like thie going forward

Just stupid strong at release then nerfed into being irrelevant

Then what's even the point of buying the characters outside the novelty

[modern quest]

Still aint irrelevant IMO

[carmine lance]

Dueling sword is boring because it plays the game for you

[modern quest]

Less all arounder dmg mill yes but not obsolete

[modern quest]

Duh

[carmine lance]

Combat knife is viable even in auric maelstrom

[sterile stone]

There's nothing arby can do that some other class can't do better.

[modern quest]

Still like using it sometimes for easy no effory games

[modern quest]

I dont care

[carmine lance]

I know because I still topscore boss damage with knife

[misty nova]

That's the catch

[sterile stone]

[sterile stone]

Like dead ass tho

[modern quest]

Still gonna play arbites

[sterile stone]

I want crowd control and defense

[modern quest]

Cause I like it

[sterile stone]

I go psyker

I wanna shit on bosses zealot

I want support

I got vet

I want anti armor

I go vet

[modern quest]

I want to do all of those to lesser degree I go arbites still

[sterile stone]

I guess fam

[carmine lance]

I go zealot because I like the feel of destroying priority targets before the team even notices they exist

And being wherever I’m needed

[misty nova]

Crowd Control and Defense?
Vet

Bosses? Vet

Anti Armor

Vet

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[misty nova]

Melee? Vet

Ranged? Vet

[north sedge]

arby barely got a slap on the wrist

[frosty herald]

arbites only got a flat 20 toughness reduction

[ivory marlin]

My build feels different but it could very well be i just forgot originally what i had

[frosty herald]

id hardly call that irrelevant

[vernal terrace]

arbites can kill beasts of nurgle in 3 seconds..
can kill rinda in 2 seconds
has the best stagger of any class
shock mines, nuncio, and castigator might as well make you unkillable

[frosty herald]

wait what

how does arbites have such a high ttk?

or are you fucking with me

[vernal terrace]

its light attack speed hasnt been changed...

[rich quiver]

your info is outdated; get back to books son

[vernal terrace]

left side keystone with bolter, or shotpistol

absolutely disgusting

[ivory marlin]

Mine doesn’t do that…..

[frosty herald]

execution order is that strong?

[vernal terrace]

at max stacks yes

[modern lintel]

50% monstro dmg ontop of shattering bolter imean

[carmine falcon]

hol up when did they nerf bro

[vernal terrace]

can also have your dog giving brittleness so you dont need to put it on your weapons

[carmine falcon]

the nerfs felt like a slap on the wrist more than anything

[vernal terrace]

calling the class weak is ridiculous

[carmine falcon]

i noticed 0 actual difference

[frosty herald]

they reduced arbites flat toughness by 20

[carmine falcon]

barely noticeable

considering he's a toughness gen machine

[bitter anvil]

20 flat toughness?

[carmine falcon]

and the dog bomb nerf aint even bad

[bitter anvil]

Not too big

[north sedge]

Eo lost 5% dmg, it's rough out here

[modern lintel]

joever

[carmine lance]

Guys, here is my objectively correct take: arbites players are dogshit for relying too heavily on the toughness regen and just fucking evaporate into smoke in auric maelstrom

The class may be good

The players sure aren’t

[carmine falcon]

arbi is still beyond strong, other class are also beyond strong now which is why we see them more

[misty nova]

Here's mine

Arby's mid