#zealot-class

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hard nexus
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it was

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uhm

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unpleasant

short hull
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hey ho is it ok to chat ?

hard nexus
royal vortex
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ur free to

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u can talk whenever

short hull
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cool, greeting! iom chriss xD

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bomb lance sparks pistol

short hull
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what are you playing ?

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its peak ,,,,

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short hull
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are here 4 havoc, auric, peanances?

royal vortex
plush estuary
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Gotta love last second smite swap

hard nexus
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but

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its very hard 2 aim

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are u asking if we are here for havoc, auric, or penances?

royal vortex
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the trick is u bring a chu ko nu in the secondary slot w/ quartermaster

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or are you looking for them

royal vortex
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and aidsmance on them

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royal vortex
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i played a match of 2x chu ko nu earlier and i killed everyone i came across including my buddy at one point

hard nexus
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lfg channels will usually get u responses more consistently

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though ur free to ask in here

plush estuary
bitter anvil
hard nexus
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i yearn for hunt,,,,

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but i dont like playing solo,,,

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guh

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i need to replay slay the princess

oak ice
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D**n

void bison
royal vortex
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i go where i please

void bison
# oak ice D**n

do you know about waxy monkey tree frogs that secrete their own sunscreen

oak ice
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Frogs are cool

void bison
void bison
long oasis
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quite the opposite

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maybe we are all small pink dogs

visual stream
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if I was a small pink dog I would probably be like abada aba abada while jumping and pointing at something

void bison
visual stream
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I would maybe return it

void bison
visual stream
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the power within resonated with me the most

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stuck in my head for like 8 years or something

royal vortex
void bison
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surreal 3am infomercial energy

royal vortex
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u fire hydrant ass bitch

void bison
spare talon
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idk it registered in my memory as a dodge so i had no problem any time i had to dodge an unparryable attack

void bison
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maybe some past trauma caused you to be this way

spare talon
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i managed to get it to run without hard crashing my pc tho

royal vortex
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what about soft crashing

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gently in the night

spare talon
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sorry i didnt mean hard crashing

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i meant turning off

royal vortex
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dont apologize. double down

spare talon
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like instantly

royal vortex
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cmon cole u should know this

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gaslight gatekeep girlboss 💅

visual stream
spare talon
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all it took was turning on vsync, setting the resolution to the absolute minimum, setting the graphics and rendering to the minimum, turning on fsr, and manually setting my refresh rate to 60 in windows

royal vortex
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arcomoding

spare talon
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yeah

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arcos also played it

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so im wonder what in the actual fuck he had to do

royal vortex
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is that the game with the playtest or w/e that just came out

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wow

north sedge
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it ran well for me also

hard nexus
plush estuary
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F

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woke mob won’t let me say that

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royal vortex
spare talon
ornate bone
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is a charge build good for hammer?

hard nexus
spare talon
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oh cole agreed nvm i have to be contrarian

royal vortex
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i remember old zealot chat culture where every message with a swear got automodded

hard nexus
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no

royal vortex
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so we all sent screenshots

ornate bone
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i miss the bonk

royal vortex
ornate bone
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what are the considered best blessings for hammer?

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idk if they changed with the rework or not

spare talon
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thrust and headtaker/slaughterer

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spare talon
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i prefer headtaker

ornate bone
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noted

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i prefer slaughterer

ornate bone
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carapace flak? or carapace unyielding

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headtaker is a bit more present against bosses, slaughterer is a bit better in horde clear

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preference really

full nebula
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ornate bone
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i’m also guessing just a standard charge build too

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nothing wild

royal vortex
void bison
north sedge
void bison
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10 points to friendship

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royal vortex
ornate bone
north sedge
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because i haven't attached the truck nuts to my case yet

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one sec

visual stream
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I used to be able to carry aurics and sometimes auric maels

royal vortex
visual stream
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What happened to me bros

royal vortex
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what about auric femaels

visual stream
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No they scare me

full nebula
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Health value changes

visual stream
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I'm getting caught by specials I never would have before

full nebula
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Not serverloregryn

visual stream
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Or taking chip damage from being dumb

void bison
full nebula
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Trial by fire

void bison
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if things are really bad... jelqing...

hard nexus
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something like this i think

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it’s basically @spare talon ‘s build

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2 wound curios 1 toughness

ornate bone
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very fancy

visual stream
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step 1: cover yourself in oil

signal spoke
long oasis
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always have been

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has?

formal umbra
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Watch it, shits peak

spare talon
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but mostly the same

hard nexus
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i don’t rember

visual stream
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that's a lot of seasons

spare talon
long oasis
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there are an infinite set of seasons

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spare talon
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knives and immos are interchangable, i just use immos for havoc

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that’s what’s different

long oasis
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riposte is 3 point

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full nebula
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I was looking at that first one and figured thy wrath was auto include

hard nexus
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especially on crushers

ornate bone
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what’s the best way to get your health down at the start of the mission?

long oasis
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does it?

ornate bone
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just let enemies hit you?

spare talon
long oasis
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its 20% damage right

full nebula
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Fire barrels

signal spoke
spare talon
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cyn you literally skipped twbs

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on thammer

signal spoke
hard nexus
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desperation gives you about the same damage as riposte, given you’re at low stam

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oops

spare talon
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i drop stam regen perks

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ahhh

visual stream
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Does BftE let you tank overheads from full health?

spare talon
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because im doing sprinting heavies a lot with unfaltering

hard nexus
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true,,

spare talon
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and theyre now replaced with revive speed perks

hard nexus
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hrm i’ll try that out methinks

spare talon
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for 61%

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its fucking crazy

visual stream
spare talon
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have you seen it

void bison
visual stream
hard nexus
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how do we feel about this

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damagemaxxing

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fuck teammates fuck damage reduction

royal vortex
hard nexus
full nebula
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Anyone tried shroudfield knife martyr

spare talon
spare talon
long oasis
spare talon
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i dont recall him dying in that engagement too

hard nexus
gaunt roost
hard nexus
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you’ll always be a revivercel

gaunt roost
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bc of the new zealot revive nodes?

spare talon
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you’ll never make it into damagartha

spare talon
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its in core pathing

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and stacking 3x perks with it gets you to 61% and its silly

gaunt roost
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whats the difference between zealot with just node and with node + revive perks

spare talon
void bison
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spare talon
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but the key thing is that it was on a build with desperation

void bison
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you can watch someone make raw chicken and then eat it

spare talon
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so i normally have stam regen on my curios

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that would be a detriment for desperation
so i swapped em

visual stream
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spare talon
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spare talon
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not without, but you get close

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i wonder if mine would meet

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visual stream
spare talon
void bison
spare talon
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thammer kinda just shits all over purple if youre good on your feet

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i need to get back into havoc 40

long oasis
royal vortex
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I've microdosed raw chicken every day the past three years. I am ten percent salmonella and a hundred percent immune

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i haven’t been playing dt very much

visual stream
royal vortex
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lmfao

void bison
long oasis
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josho incoming with the servants of the grandfather update

royal vortex
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rancid

hard nexus
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asmongold’s room is going to end up like the dark eldar murder sex orgy

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and that’s gonna be what births nurgle

royal vortex
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dark eldar at least are like fucked up gross on purpose

long oasis
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is he real

royal vortex
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this guy is just passively disgusting

long oasis
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how is he a multimillionaire

hard nexus
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they’re so evil that they fucked up the multiverse

visual stream
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Bro

void bison
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by birthing slaanesh

royal vortex
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i like marazhai in rogue trader because u can put him in his stupid little space elf place

void bison
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BASED he hates women and likes big boobs just like me!!!!

royal vortex
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unfortunately he attracts the same crowd as bad ending astarion in bg3

long oasis
void bison
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he hates the woke mob!!!!

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hes just the voice of reason!!!

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royal vortex
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the space sharks successfully managing to torture and break a dark eldar is my favorite thing ever

void bison
royal vortex
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no

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i am a friend to women, weird fucked up daemon-summoning or not

hard nexus
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idira is awesome until she summons 4 plague bearers

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and then it’s frown

obsidian prairie
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Idira is the best support caster

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By a lot

royal vortex
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despite her forcing a few reloads in the first act by dropping a screamer of tzeench i had no chance of beating with half my party dead

visual stream
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Idira, on turn one with 0 veil degradation during the space marine Aurora fight, killed herself and spawned a screamer of Tzeentch upon using one minor power

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LMAO

royal vortex
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unsanctioned psykers are the worst

long oasis
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cassia is cute

void bison
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fish wife...

long oasis
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but ive never played rt so im judging books by their covers

royal vortex
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u gotta judge em by their fucked up claymation looking in game model

void bison
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she's a TikTok empathy

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empath

royal vortex
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no, ma'am, i will not be removing the vocal cords of my shipsmen

long oasis
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beautfiafal

void bison
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I gave her a flower

long oasis
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look at that hapsburg chin

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purity of bearing and breeding

drowsy steppe
void bison
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kevin is perfect

glossy nimbus
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Why is helldivers 2 getting fatter everytime I look at it

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why is it 141 gigs

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This shouldn't be acceptable what the hell???

ivory marlin
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divers

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blame hdds

drowsy steppe
glossy nimbus
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All the HDD users are gonna blow up anyway

drowsy steppe
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HDD for gaming in year of da lawd 2025 is crazy

glossy nimbus
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My old pc's hard drive broke

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like

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broke lmfao

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Shit the bed hard

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But the pc was already pretty old

swift hearth
plush estuary
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5 moebians stopping me from moving

exotic plaza
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eh skill issue

plush estuary
lament veldt
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my zealot is lvl 20. getting close

pale sparrow
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stealth or charge for thunder hammer builds?

modern carbon
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both work

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charge is better for general use, stealth has more burst but

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charge still kill boss and is better against everything else

nimble fiber
spare talon
exotic plaza
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stealth

carmine lance
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stealth

hearty nebula
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because if you're spreading that data out everywhere you are not making it faster you're literally just making more unnecessary reads

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and the whole point is to load the shit into memory so you're not having to constantly pull that data

sullen forge
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I love how this is my first match into BF6

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fucking conga line of Support mains

swift hearth
hearty nebula
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other than that it's fine

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hell their asset duplication is probably why i stutter so much during load screens now, i didn't have that at all during launch

sullen forge
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Also this lmao

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literally first match

void bison
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A round of glyphid slammers for me and my friends here

void bison
spare talon
sullen forge
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its actually enjoyable

lament veldt
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too broke to get bf6.

sullen forge
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fucking easily like 20x better than 2042

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its fun

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would recommend it

lament veldt
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IKK BROOO

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i played open beta

hard nexus
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3 of them were knives

median steeple
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nothing will top BF1 but 6 is starting to take over 4 for me

median steeple
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4s gunplay is ass

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bf6 has too many issues in my opinion

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median steeple
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no

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god no

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the bloom is horrendous

scenic drift
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you can literally build for laser hipfire

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and hipfire from like 20m

median steeple
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6 is weak in the fact that it has less factions and less vehicles

hard nexus
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assault rifle past 15 meters and im shooting everything except the target

scenic drift
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Uhhh

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and the grind is

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gross,,,

median steeple
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put attachments on yo shit woman

scenic drift
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Your build is not good then.

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you can make most guns into lasers in bf6

hard nexus
median steeple
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YOU

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PLAY

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WARTHUNDER

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the weapon assignments r stinky

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also vehicle combat just

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i do not like

sullen forge
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Admittedly my only issue was bloom

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but this is because Im using an MG

hard nexus
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vehicle combat is just a question of who has more engineers

sullen forge
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with no attachments

median steeple
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that's how it has always been

hard nexus
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vehicles being made tankier is nice

sullen forge
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I hate to say it

hard nexus
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but it was never this bad

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4 had longer cooldowns on blowtorch times

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and vehicles being more fragile meant you could just overwhelm their healing

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also im not really a fan of a lot of the maps so far, in bf6

sullen forge
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Im mixed

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Olympia seems cool

scenic drift
spare talon
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bf6 hasnt been too fun for me so far

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yeah

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im gonna play the campaign

spare talon
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mostly due to the fact that i dont own it

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and have never played it

sullen forge
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truth nuke

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LMFAO

scenic drift
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also anti-tank mines are obscene

scenic drift
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the amount of triple and quadra kills

sullen forge
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Look I get to play against clueless console players

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SO

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I get to do dumb shit like this

hard nexus
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otherwise im prolly just gonna wait a while

scenic drift
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If you're playing solo, it's a lot worse of course.

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you really want 3-4 people

sullen forge
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I got to lvl 5 on strictly actual multiplayer matches

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but Initiation can level you also

void bison
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maybe i should just reinstall 1 or 4

sullen forge
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so I was planning to do that till Lvl 9 for the gun I want

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aka this

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frown !

scenic drift
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You're misunderstanding, you're supposed to kill the engineers 💀

hard nexus
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i know

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and i do

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but even 2 engineers is enough to outheal most damage

scenic drift
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Also if 1 player flanking, beats 5, then that's not great balance, outside great clutches.

hard nexus
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a tank flanking is a much bigger deal than a single infantryman

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because a tank is, fucking huge and loud

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and limited

ivory marlin
void bison
hard nexus
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and the maps all feel small

void bison
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did you consider that it's 70$ AAAA gaming so it's actually better anyways

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i miss golmud,,,

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i miss zavod 311,,,

median steeple
scenic drift
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I'm not really a fan of huge maps anymore, too much running around doing nothing.

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Would rather play arma or squad or hll if I wanted that.

void bison
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reinstalling battlefield one

hard nexus
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warhammer fantasy couldve learned

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froim this

median steeple
hard nexus
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golmud had a ton of jeeps and ATVs for example

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a single decent transport heli could change the match

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also im not sure if im misremembering but the planes in bf6 feel super super different and i do not like it,,,

hard nexus
drowsy steppe
# median steeple

the knight fully kitted out in plate armor who had trained from childhood in how to use the sword most effectively when he meets Peasant John with a Flintlock

scenic drift
hard nexus
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lmfao true

void bison
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is it the lamenters who have the infamously hard to paint checkered pauldrons

hard nexus
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with all vehicles and such

scenic drift
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and in bf4, with heli nerfs, I only enjoyed a few maps, like shanghai where a good pilot could weave between the buildings and be a real hellfire for the other team.

drowsy steppe
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am I mentally ready to listen to tanner talking about veteran for 2 hours 🤔

lament blaze
void bison
median steeple
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why yes since two of the oldest flags in history that are still used are just crosses

lament blaze
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I would suppose its when "wait i want to know what the f*ck country that ship is from before i sink it" was invented.

void bison
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ahh so brand recognition

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feudalism did evolve into capitalism right so it makes sense

full nebula
median steeple
drowsy steppe
void bison
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i hope titus gets to meet his bros gadriel and chairon again

hexed igloo
# drowsy steppe

The lion doesn't concern himself with the gaps in his memory between the ages of 11-16

void bison
hexed igloo
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I have like 4 memories total from before then

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And probably 10 from these last 5 years

void bison
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at least part of it is an intended process our brains do iirc

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the rest is just because life shit

hexed igloo
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Yeah it's a struggle to remember something from a week ago

void bison
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going between retail and home will do this as well

hexed igloo
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Yeah real I literally don't go anywhere except for home and work

void bison
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self inflicted dementia gang

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twinning

hexed igloo
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I go out to look at the opshops nearby once every other month

hexed igloo
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Twin, it wasn't your fault twin

void bison
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I eat at thr Mexican restaurant and talk to my greatest ally celso

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occasionally

hexed igloo
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Kelso from that 70s show?

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Love that guy wish I could talk to him

proud crescent
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Uh.... is bolt pistol getting better than revolver?

bitter anvil
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Boltpistol new mark looks funny

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Make chaff enemy go boom

ebon bobcat
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Yall checkout my ping score

void bison
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probably just more rats

signal spoke
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The ratband spreads

drowsy steppe
ebon bobcat
hexed igloo
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There's an explosive bolter now fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk

ebon bobcat
hexed igloo
ebon bobcat
hexed igloo
proud crescent
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Blessings for relic blade?

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nvm found it

acoustic dune
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everytime i wakr up and air hit my lung

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(i live)

void bison
acoustic dune
void bison
glossy nimbus
void bison
acoustic dune
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and?

void bison
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I like them

acoustic dune
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me too (:

void bison
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🐴

proud crescent
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Is hammerblow worth something in crusher for Zealot? or since the special is an instant CC is not a good idea? dors it staggers even more the crushers?

carmine lance
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Chat, I can’t sleep

carmine lance
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I don’t want to be miserable at comicon tomorrow

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What do

obsidian prairie
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Skullcrusher slaughterer is best now

void bison
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energy

obsidian prairie
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You used to use hammerblow because you had nothing else

carmine lance
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Where can I get some within 5 hrs

void bison
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horse place

obsidian prairie
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Extract it from a horse

carmine lance
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Idk if there’s one nearby

carmine lance
obsidian prairie
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Do it mgr style

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Just reach out and grab that shit

carmine lance
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Uber to the horse stables near my actual house

void bison
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you only think its plausible because you dont even fathom what youre up against

carmine lance
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I say it’s plausible because it’s nearby

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I could beat that horse in a fight

void bison
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sounds kinda like a horse place

obsidian prairie
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Secondary alternative

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Attend comicon in a constant state of life threatening crisis as to induce a prolonged adrenaline high

carmine lance
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I think I will just

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Overdose on adderall instead

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That sounds like a good option

void bison
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take a horse dosage

carmine lance
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TRUE

void bison
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it all circles back to horse

carmine lance
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Good thing it’s going to be chilly tomorrow

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I gotta wear a great coat for the cosplay lol

carmine lance
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Hell of a thing to wake up to lmao

obsidian prairie
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Emotional support horse

carmine lance
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I think if I woke up to that, I would be in disbelief

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Id think I was still under

void bison
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this is the setup I want before my life support is unplugged only with a bunch of frogs hopping on keyboards

carmine lance
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Lmao

void bison
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I think an emotional support fish would be cool

acoustic dune
twilit latch
void bison
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ehats vt2?

twilit latch
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sigh of utter disbelief

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vermintide 2

void bison
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ive never heard of it

carmine lance
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Mods, eviscerate this man

void bison
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eviscerator mk 1 billion this man

carmine lance
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True….

twilit latch
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feel nothing intensifies

void bison
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you tried so hard

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you got so far

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but in the end

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fish

carmine lance
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Feesh

void bison
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🐟

twilit latch
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either way, there's "token of manaan" hat or smth for zealot in vt2

twilit latch
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just a fish strapped on head

carmine lance
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Killer fish from san diego is my favorite

void bison
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there is also the shark face

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the fattened head of a hefty shark

twilit latch
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the obese megalodon, one might say

carmine lance
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Alright I’m going to go back to trying to sleep

carmine lance
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Frog

drowsy steppe
hearty nebula
acoustic dune
hearty nebula
acoustic dune
hearty nebula
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u are

acoustic dune
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Nuh uh

carmine lance
placid fiber
acoustic dune
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Hitting the sploinky doinky

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Ey phill

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How's the wife

placid fiber
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She's had a pretty good day so far

hearty nebula
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explodes her

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with bombs

placid fiber
drowsy steppe
vagrant blade
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how do you get out ?

winter oxide
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dont drop down

acoustic dune
alpine osprey
acoustic dune
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I am the emperor lil champ

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And will prove so

drowsy steppe
spare talon
acoustic dune
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if i had to do draw a zealot banner

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why would there be mpreg

vagrant blade
acoustic dune
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It's always is

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You can't go a day without mpreg

drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
modern lintel
frosty herald
drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
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(I don't plan to draw it yet)

misty nova
#

Why's Kojima on Brazil

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😭

vagrant blade
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cuz he's kojima he can go wherever he want

misty nova
#

Tru

vagrant blade
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on an unrelated note I love the neck tatoo on my zealot

exotic plaza
#

bro think he saltzpyzer

candid trench
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What would play more into the knight player fantasy, heavy sword or relic blade?

drowsy steppe
candid trench
#

Relic has heavy thrusts right?

drowsy steppe
#

yea

candid trench
#

Aight hell yeah

drowsy steppe
#

Landsknecht style

candid trench
#

What could we argue is the most "medieval crusader" Ranged weapon, quick draw revolver? Double barreled?

misty nova
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DB looks like a Crossbow

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So DB

candid trench
#

I'd imagine DB as more of a blunderbuss

misty ravine
#

Flamer maybe

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I couldn't tell you why exactly

candid trench
#

Feels too modern

misty ravine
#

Greek Fire predates gunpowder or something

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Even though it was never an infantry weapon

candid trench
drowsy steppe
#

also plate armored knights during later medieval periods uses pistols on horsebacks

glad ermine
#

The real struggle is getting quilas for cosmetics akin to armor plates

misty nova
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Don't worry

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The plate armor set comes back regularly

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They've been around 3 times already

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Or was it 4

misty ravine
#

And waiting for armor plates to come around to the store that don't look like football gear with spikes, or sweatpants with greaves

glad ermine
#

Oh no i mean the expense

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But you can always sell drugs to the homeless anyways

carmine lance
#

Waiting at the bus stop in my nazi apparrel, fr fr

sterile stone
# drowsy steppe

All that grit to get done in by a homeless zombie with a rusty pipe

glad ermine
acoustic dune
#

YALL MF ARE COOKED

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I got me the IKEA SHARK

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@drowsy steppe you iz so over

exotic plaza
#

W transition

acoustic dune
#

The lion will weep to the shark

hushed knoll
carmine lance
acoustic dune
#

(Now I have smth to hug at night that is not my will to live)

acoustic dune
#

The sex face again

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Stan you gotta stop this

hushed knoll
#

It’s not a sex face wtf

drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
#

Simple

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You have 1 less shark then me

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And I get more comfy sleeping

woeful dome
#

How should I value twbs on Evis?

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Is it needed for Martydom build?

misty nova
#

Helps sawing without interruption

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Or you just chastise every time you're sawing

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Same effect

woeful dome
# misty nova Same effect

I'm not quite sure what this mean. Does the ability also give stun immunity? Or is it because you briefly knock back enemy already so you have space?

placid fiber
misty nova
placid fiber
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this too ^

woeful dome
#

Understood

placid fiber
#

twbs is still a huge quality of life thing

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it lets you get hit on the auspex machine without getting knocked off as well

misty nova
#

Hence the same same but different

woeful dome
#

This is what I cooked up. Any major red flag?

elfin thorn
woeful dome
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Yeah

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I legit don't have 3x toughness curious yet

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Only 2 sounds kek

elfin thorn
#

shield of contempt only procs off of health damage iirc so i don't usually pick it up
i recall liking the talent node underneath scourge (bleed for crit chance)
and i think enemies within is a pretty good toughness gen

placid fiber
#

it is only hp damage, yeah, that it procs off of

elfin thorn
#

we need to find u a hp based ogryn for uptime on shield of contempt

placid fiber
#

Triple hp curio oggy!

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There lol

woeful dome
#

What the f. So this proc off of health damage but the Ogryn one get it from toughness?

#

I love FS wording

placid fiber
#

since it procs off of anyone taking hp damage

elfin thorn
woeful dome
placid fiber
#

no hurting friends I think counts from hp damage, but, idk for sure

woeful dome
#

This one

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I heard it's toughness

placid fiber
#

It's also not 60% dr tho

woeful dome
#

Which is why most builds try to take it if they can

placid fiber
#

60% dr applies to both hp and toughness damage >.>

woeful dome
#

Yeah I mostly meant the proc condition

placid fiber
#

the proc conditions being different makes sense in this instance

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if it procced off of toughness damage it would be 50% uptime on 60% dr pretty much

#

and it's not just tdr like enduring faith

elfin thorn
#

i think no hurting friends procs off any damage

placid fiber
#

I am not sure, so it probably does

elfin thorn
#

according to the ogrynomicon it procs any damage and it's bugged with coherency

#

so globally if an ally takes damage you get a stack

elfin thorn
placid fiber
woeful dome
#

Fair enough. One more question 😁
How good is desperation?

placid fiber
#

it depends

elfin thorn
#

i can't tell. i assume it depends on the weapon

placid fiber
#

On weapons that spam the push attack? Probably okay/good

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On weapons that don't... meh

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oh they changed it

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It's based on remaining stamina now

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Used to be 4s after 0% stamina

woeful dome
#

Okay I'll skip it.

placid fiber
#

I still think it depends tho

woeful dome
#

I hate push attacks

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Kek

elfin thorn
#

i'm usually sprinting towards the fight so i'm often starting at low stamina, and if you use a push attack weapon it will be in good uptime

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but i don't pay attention to my stamina so i can't recall if i'm often low

placid fiber
#

I slide towards the fight on all characters lol

woeful dome
#

^

placid fiber
#

I don't pay attention to stamina very often myself

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Unless I'm picking someone up

elfin thorn
#

yeah lol

woeful dome
#

I rebind my control to capslock to slide more easily lol

placid fiber
#

btw the direction your camera faces while picking someone up affects which direction you are blocking

woeful dome
#

Otherwise pinky hurty

placid fiber
#

I'm a savage, I use mostly vanilla keybindings

elfin thorn
#

i changed the sprint key from shift to alt to help the pinky

woeful dome
#

Lol

elfin thorn
#

otherwise i got an mmo mouse so i can keep all the vanilla keybinds as is

placid fiber
#

Ironically taking jump off of dodge hurts me more than it helps cause I almost never jump while dodge spamming :\

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and then I can't vault over stuff as effectively cause I forget

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cause I have 2k hours of muscle memory using space bar for both

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in vt2 I had to unbind jump from dodge cause I am always the host

elfin thorn
placid fiber
#

the difference between no latency and 30ms latecy lol

heady rapids
placid fiber
woeful dome
#

For havoc how does this look?
No Rampage cause too much armor, I might not proc it that often.

Between Bloodthirsty and Perfect Strike idk which

placid fiber
woeful dome
placid fiber
#

Also that crit chance perk is a trap

elfin thorn
#

perfect strike is the best cleave option if you got crits going cuz you don't stop cleaving at carapace

woeful dome
#

I assume it's crit brutal momentum

placid fiber
#

25% flak, maniac, or unyielding will serve you better since you already have a high crit chance

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The only time I've found the 5% crit perk to do something meaningfully is with a death dealer build in the mortis trials with the autopistol where having a 12% chance to consume ammo instead of a 17% chance was more noticeable

elfin thorn
placid fiber
#

I think with bloodthristy something like IJ would work better cause then you have damage added to the guaranteed crit

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I don't know for sure tho

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You'd have to ask higui or meow

woeful dome
#

Okay time to grind some zealot gameplay

placid fiber
#

higui is the resident mk15 eviscerator overlord, meow is the mk3 eviscerator god

elfin thorn
#

mmm

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i like damage

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i should run marty heavy evis

placid fiber
#

iirc higui does like marty with the mk15 eviscerator

woeful dome
#

I'm running mk15 actually kek

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Forgor to change that

placid fiber
#

I'm not sure what the meta is on the mk15 rn, but, before I think it was rampage + bloodthirsty

#

shred with perfected on a crit build, iirc

woeful dome
#

Presumably sawing is mostly for elites
I can see that chastise + heavy rev on mk15 1 shot crushers

placid fiber
#

sawing is for the big mfers usually, yeah

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I think you can use a revved light into a horde to proc bloodthirsty

woeful dome
#

Gotta love 100% rending on commands

placid fiber
#

revved lights used to make the mk15 able to damage 6 hordlings instead of 4, but, they removed the cap to how many targets you can damage

carmine lance
#

Chat this costume may have been a mistake, this is still a greatcoat

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Very warm

devout flicker
#

i've ran ctrl as jump since vt2 and its a very good habit to get into

placid fiber
woeful dome
#

I assume VT2 doesn't have as much customization as DT?
Their skill tree seems to be the old "pick 1 of 3 for 5 times" tree we have wayyy back when

royal sandal
#

it doesnt, but you have like 4 classes per character

woeful dome
#

Ah

royal sandal
#

so its "pick 1 of 3 for 5 times" for 20 times

woeful dome
#

All I know is that Havoc Vet is some kind of Kruber

placid fiber
woeful dome
#

And Break the Line Arby is Footknight

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Something like that

devout flicker
#

but with thp instead of toughness

royal sandal
#

but in actuality its going to be "pick 1 of 3 for 3 times" because you wont switch much for the thp talent

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and the smiter/assassin/ep row

woeful dome
#

Nice. Maybe one day I'll get it on sale to test it out

royal sandal
#

if you like the melee in darktide you'll like vt2

woeful dome
#

Or maybe not cause i like how modern DT graphics and menu feel kek

devout flicker
#

also the maps are fun

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and chaos wastes is really fun

royal sandal
#

it'll feel "clunky" at first if you came from darktide but the combat

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arguably is way better

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and more sophisticated melee-wise

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this might also come from my personal bias of 1.9k hours

placid fiber
devout flicker
#

it's a lot more balanced since the only "blessing" worth using is swift slayer so you dont get awful blessing creep

royal sandal
#

its also way more punishing, i guarantee you'll be bringing bad habits from darktide into vermintide

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no matter if you've done normal damnation/auric/havoc 40

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the hardest and boring part is the grind like darktide

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lots of the ults you'll find familiar because frankly darktide just copied some over

placid fiber
#

tfw you kill that annoying fly that's been bugging you

placid fiber
royal sandal
#

as a general quick list
merc shout = vet shout
huntsman invis = vet invis
footknight charge = arbites/ogryn charge
shade invis = vet/zealot invis
zealot (vt) charge = zealot (dt) charge
ranger veteran invis = vet invis
ironbreaker taunt + dr ult = arbites massive dr + ogryn's taunt
unchained explode = psyker venting shriek

grizzled aspen
#

Also zero telegraph chaos warrior punch is funny to remember.

placid fiber
#

Chaos warrior: Fuck you in particular!

grizzled aspen
#

Oops, there goes 90% of your hp because you stood a little too close to a chaos warrior!

placid fiber
devout flicker
#

not to mention manbow is fucking sickkkkkk

#

manbow with conservative shooter in darktide would be so busted

grizzled aspen
#

I couldn't use kruber's longbow for the life of me.

placid fiber
devout flicker
placid fiber
#

^

grizzled aspen
#

Kerillian's, on the other hand? That felt great.

devout flicker
#

literally feel the other way round

placid fiber
#

I liked both bows tbh

devout flicker
#

hate the fact you're forced to have a 4x zoom on elfbow

royal sandal
devout flicker
#

manbow rocked cus with good timing you could stay at 1x

grizzled aspen
#

Now I've gotta reinstall vermintide to play Geheimesnacht. (or however you spell it)

royal sandal
#

since they still track the moment you dodge during their windup unlike verm

devout flicker
#

maybe its cus i played both for 1k hours+ 😭

royal sandal
#

that i would disagree immensely because of the amount of bullshit i can get away with darktide's melee mechanics

devout flicker
#

thp is just really op as well

#

nahhh

#

its the enemies

royal sandal
#

and also intense bias from my side xd

devout flicker
#

theres so little you cant just outright dodge in vt2

royal sandal
#

ive played like 1000+ hours of modded vermintide

devout flicker
#

i mean thats modded yeah

placid fiber
#

TFW 20 plague monks

grizzled aspen
#

Having played both vermintide and darktide for a long time, darktide is definitely easier.

royal sandal
#

drop in

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mfw the entire spawn is 50 plague monks

grizzled aspen
#

Darktide has safety mechanics and toughness is a better hp resource than thp.

devout flicker
#

unmodded darktide is harder because the playerbase isnt full of veteran players and havoc is just objectively harder content than cataclysm/weaves

grizzled aspen
#

I.e. iframes on dodges so you can dodge in place.

devout flicker
#

toughness is absolutely not a better resource than thp

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if better = easier to manage

royal sandal
#

if we're going to compare endgames in general for official then yeah, darktide is harder

grizzled aspen
#

Even in the middle of a horde you can dodge a crusher overhead.

devout flicker
#

true abt the iframes tho

grizzled aspen
#

Iframes alone make darktide easier. This ain't a debate.

devout flicker
#

are you talking about modded vt2

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or vanilla

royal sandal
#

vanilla in general

devout flicker
#

because vanilla vt2 is just easy as piss

royal sandal
#

iframes are so busted

grizzled aspen
#

Vanilla for both.

devout flicker
#

nahhhh

grizzled aspen
#

Vermintide is harder.

devout flicker
#

fuck no

#

absolutely not

grizzled aspen
#

Shield enemies are extremely annoying.

devout flicker
#

havoc 20 with randoms is harder than the hardest content vt2 has to offer with bots

grizzled aspen
#

Mfw bulwark stagger mechanics exist in vermintide but there's 50 rats with shields:

royal sandal
#

tbf i dont think we can compare both games directly since they're so different

#

the essence of them anyways

devout flicker
#

yea ig

royal sandal
#

vermintide official realm cata whittles you down

royal sandal
#

darktide official realm spams shit at you and you can keep up with it until a massive spike comes

grizzled aspen
#

I will say though, I would rather fight a hundred rotshields at the same time instead of ten bulwarks.

devout flicker
#

i find the spam way more annoying

grizzled aspen
#

Rotshields are way better to fight.

devout flicker
#

not to mention just about any weapon in vt2 could handle CWs

royal sandal
#

thats one major problem darktide has yea

devout flicker
#

but cara% is just really rough for most weapons in darktide which forces you to use 10% of the weapon selection lmao

full nebula
devout flicker
#

but i 100% disagree with toughness being more op than thp

#

thp made chip damage neglible

#

sure toughness blocks all ranged

#

but thats hardly an issue in vt2 theres like 3 ranged enemies

placid fiber
devout flicker
#

toughness* on darktide release tho

#

was so fucking busted

#

it used to not leak damage to your hp

#

💀

royal sandal
#

i dont remember anything from release darktide and id prefer to keep it that way

grizzled aspen
#

I think I would rather have toughness in vt2.

devout flicker
#

😭

placid fiber
devout flicker
#

oh and zealot had 100% damage immunity in slide animations

#

you could slide into crusher overheads

royal sandal
#

isnt that still true now

devout flicker
#

is it?

placid fiber
#

No

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50% iirc

royal sandal
#

thank fuck

devout flicker
#

im pretty sure they removed most of the disrepencies

royal sandal
#

the day deathwish gets added into havoc is the day i will die a happy man

placid fiber
#

0.5x multiplier

royal sandal
#

🙏

devout flicker
#

like how veteran used to take 2x damage when sprinting in day 1 darktide

#

😭

devout flicker
#

tbh the main remnant of the old class disrepencies are out-of-stamina sprint speeds

grizzled aspen
placid fiber
#

Fair

devout flicker
#

tbh

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that was never an issue at higher diffs

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you always had shit to farm thp off of

#

unless your bounty hunter was a chud that used duckfoot pistols

grizzled aspen
devout flicker
#

then you'd lose half of your thp to ff and have nothing to farm thp off of

placid fiber
queen yoke
#

@wild apex

grizzled aspen