#zealot-class

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void bison
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a man who never try pork bun is never a whole man

frosty herald
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i have a bone to pick with bandai namco

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they keep releasing the most mid anime games or soulslikes ever

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and provide the bare minimum in post release content

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Yeah, release Ace Combat 8

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Im ngl AC7 gave me so much nostalgia for Shattered Skies I teared up a lil

frosty herald
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sparking 0 with no customization content in post release updates

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no new maps

sterile stone
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Bruh they were gonna add a coop mode to sleeping dogs

void bison
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my most soured devs are stress level zero

frosty herald
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this goddamn turk says hes available not even online on steam

void bison
# void bison my most soured devs are stress level zero

"bonelabs is all about what the community will create alongside us with the modding and the potential!!!" zero community communication barely any updates and a modding sdk that still barely does anything like a billion years after release

frosty herald
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i saw jfj play boneworks

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which was pretty cool

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but bonelabs was just meh

void bison
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the coolest part about bonelabs is the Adam smasher mod with working arm guns

sterile stone
void bison
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and the malorian arms mod

carmine falcon
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joining you now

sterile stone
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@frosty herald

frosty herald
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thats genuinely brain damaged

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not making the sequel the protag going further and further into the crime world

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nah make an mmo out of it

sterile stone
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Not just a mmo

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Pay to win slop mmo

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You can rent upgrades and guns

long oasis
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can they make another gex please

carmine falcon
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we could use a third

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make the lobby public mayhaps

frosty herald
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But why

frosty herald
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Were grinding

carmine falcon
frosty herald
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And we completed it yesterday in duos

carmine falcon
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duo is fine too

void bison
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I want to tear my clavicle out of my body

acoustic dune
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frogget aboutit

ivory marlin
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Fyog

ivory marlin
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real money

long oasis
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8HeavyStubber

placid fiber
glossy nimbus
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Real

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Wish I had more of them

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
glossy nimbus
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I'm 20 bruh

ivory marlin
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Im 19 and don’t remember imformer shits

glossy nimbus
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I'm killing you

ivory marlin
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Ok unc

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Sorry

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Aunti

glossy nimbus
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lmfao

ivory marlin
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Im very funny

frosty herald
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Terminators are so bullshit man

carmine falcon
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im saving my heavy

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and buying more relics

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instead of fkn cadians

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heady rapids
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wyd

carmine falcon
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leveling yam up

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come join

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siege hard 1-5

ivory marlin
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Im ngl the best solution I ever found to termies in that game was stunlocking them with a TH

frosty herald
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3 fucking minigun terminators

heady rapids
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oh youre dogwalking yam

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ok hoppin on

carmine falcon
frosty herald
carmine falcon
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this enemy was not designed to be spammed

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but here we are

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carmine falcon
ivory marlin
heady rapids
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you will never escape samsara

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LMAO

carmine falcon
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we should either get heavy bots wave 1 or save until 3
Getting them wave 1 would honestly make this go so fast

ivory marlin
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Be nice to the people carrying you

heady rapids
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i buy a heavy bot when i can

frosty herald
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or the game shouldnt spawn a shitton of terminators

ivory marlin
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:(

frosty herald
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those rockets deal a stupid amount of damage

heady rapids
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let me look at my 10 loading screens

carmine falcon
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like if its 1 or 2
its easy to avoid them
just dodge sideways

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u get 10 and you're like neutral

frosty herald
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cant move out of the line of fire cause youll just get swiss cheesed

heady rapids
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who do i level hmmm

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thinking

carmine falcon
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u can level your tac

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so we can get secure stockpile

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and ill switch to heavy

frosty herald
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yurr

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tomorrow well go and powerlevel my bulwark

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Someone asked me to reinstall sm2 to do the co op campaign with them and tbh I'm kinda not anticipating it

frosty herald
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probs gonna take tomorrow to also finish vanguard

carmine falcon
heady rapids
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i did it twice

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its good

frosty herald
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Campaign is fun

carmine falcon
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i want them to update campaign with weapons and enimies from obs

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carmine falcon
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AoD on release was not fun

frosty herald
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I wish we were able to fight imurah and the changer of fate in an operation

heady rapids
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lets gooo!!!!!

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carmine falcon
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campaign weapons dont hit hard enough to warrant that diff

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now if we had ops weapon stats

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mama mia

frosty herald
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Make the excuse that a shard of the crystal survived and inside is a fragment of imurah and his changer of fate

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The single gun worth using was the pre boss multimelta

carmine falcon
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eh a lot of guns were fun

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just not on AoD

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it was very overtuned

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Yeah, and I only played on AoD tbf

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If its different now that's probably better

carmine falcon
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it is yeah

heady rapids
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i played on aod and i enjoyed it

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good challenge

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It just felt like a slog once the TS showed up

heady rapids
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spawns are scripted either way

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Which is kinda exactly how SM1 went too

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Idk if I'd even call it challenging

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It legit just felt like "can you parry?" "Okay, yeah, you're fine"

heady rapids
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just had to use your resources optimally

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like prepping meltas

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and shit

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Yeah, I agree

ivory marlin
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The game

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And by optimally you mean waiting for the obligatory carnifex fight

heady rapids
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its like

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Or dread fight

heady rapids
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that one shooter

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gears

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Right?

heady rapids
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no i mean like

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termie spawns

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and whatnot

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Termies weren't even that bad imo

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You just

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Idk

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Beat them to death with a hammer

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Legit I think the single worst enemy in the game to deal with was brain bugs

heady rapids
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yeah in that one mission

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Couldnt reach those with a hammer normally

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On the radar dish

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And there's multiple lmfao

heady rapids
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nooo not that one

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the one with the pyro

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Fuck uhhh?

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Im blanking, I havent played genuinely since release

acoustic dune
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aaand not go throught a whole ass combo to get the stagger

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Cause I like PvP and Bulwark and Heavy are awful to deal with in PvP

acoustic dune
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staying out of range

glossy nimbus
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Bulwarks are usually the first sign you should fallback

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glossy nimbus
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They really are the "fuck you" enemy

frosty herald
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Dont play sm2 pvp

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No i played assault and dropped melta bombs on them

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Fuck those people

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Suffer

glossy nimbus
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Sm2 beef

acoustic dune
glossy nimbus
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Yeah

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After a certain amount of hitting their shield opens

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acoustic dune
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why didnt they make it when they hold down shield a singular melee could break it

glossy nimbus
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Or well they're staggered

heady rapids
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went to check if i even have the level for it

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and

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such perrk

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does not exist

glossy nimbus
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As ogyrn you can easily break through the shield with the borovian pickaxe alt attack

heady rapids
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bulwark is cancer

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you have to melee them

glossy nimbus
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I think you can uh

heady rapids
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or circle them

glossy nimbus
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Bypass the shield with grenadier gauntlet

heady rapids
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they can block all they want if they're alone they get overwhelmed and die

glossy nimbus
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Then again I have not used it in a long time..

heady rapids
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first you should focus down their teammates

glossy nimbus
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Mhm

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Oh yeah

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I believe bularks have infinite shield when they have gunners behind them constantly resetting them

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Something like that.

sullen forge
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Stagger reset

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That’s what’s happening

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They get hit at all it resets their stagger

carmine falcon
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i go play nightreign now join ya later @frosty herald

frosty herald
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hey b1ade

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thanks for ruining my mood

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fuck you

carmine falcon
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wot da hyll

queen yoke
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@wild apex

queen yoke
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@wild apex queen

snow vessel
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hey guys im new i was wondering what the ideal curio blessing is

queen yoke
queen yoke
snow vessel
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what about perks?

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and does the power level for curios matter or no?

queen yoke
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higher power bigger stats

snow vessel
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great thanks

heady rapids
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It very heavily matters for stam curios

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Cause iirc 3 stam rounds down to 2 stam unless its 410 or above

heady rapids
snow vessel
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sorry marty?

heady rapids
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middle keystone

snow vessel
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oh okay thank you

heady rapids
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max for toughness is 17%

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hp 21%

queen yoke
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when the blue sparkles disappear step off @wild apex

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backwards not forwards @wild apex

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ok we need to be fast so nvm waiting for the sparkles to end

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step on and step off @wild apex

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the code in the video is the same as it is ingame

coral smelt
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Base melee dmg node is more impactful than the talent melee dmg nodes, correct?

queen yoke
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ping when ur about to step on

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@wild apex

wild apex
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lean cairn
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they've got to nerf this class man

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how is this acceptable

queen yoke
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nvm call that 0 sparkles

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u gotta be faster to step on and off @wild apex

heady rapids
queen yoke
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step on for too long and its fucked

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no sparkles means its fucked

wild apex
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ok

queen yoke
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no sparkles fuck

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no sparkles @wild apex

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step off it quicker

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if its making a noise it means someones on it

placid fiber
queen yoke
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finally

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2nd one here btw @wild apex

sullen forge
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The moldspore:

wild apex
queen yoke
wild apex
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ok

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go ahead

queen yoke
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got it

swift hearth
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queen yoke
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thats a random yaesha drop also here

wild apex
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got the soul link ring

queen yoke
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sick you should have it now cus i just picked it up

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looks like this

wild apex
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dank

queen yoke
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so check rq if u have it just incase

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should be near the top since new ring

wild apex
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Yep new ring

queen yoke
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noice

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thats everything here then ty

wild apex
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np

swift hearth
formal umbra
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xiv arkveld was fun asf gonna do ex now

frosty herald
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Atleast ff14 players can refight guardian arkveld

formal umbra
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yeah im still salty about that

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YAAAAAAAAAAAY

lunar fable
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Seikret yippee

formal umbra
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time to grind for that cart mount

unreal gate
ionic orbit
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heya was gonna use the relic blade, is there a particularly kind of stat or build i should be going with?

long oasis
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Pretty much any build would work with relic blade, it is a very versatile weapon

carmine lance
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it's a bit quiet, but I felt compelled to make this

long oasis
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@ripe quest chadgryn

long oasis
carmine lance
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idk how

long oasis
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give me like 10 minutes lemme break out the editing software

carmine lance
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thanks lmao

ripe quest
long oasis
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you should fight ainz

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I think you have a good cahnce of winning

frosty herald
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carmine lance
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darktide pvp would be interesting

frosty herald
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The most broken mode ever

carmine lance
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I know vermintide vs is a thing

frosty herald
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But also dead within a week

void bison
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unkillable

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wipes squad

sullen forge
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Blight spreads + BON only monstrosities

frosty herald
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Vt2 versus is basically dead

carmine lance
oak ice
placid fiber
tranquil bone
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The fact vs happened at all is still crazy to me. I don't think anyone was still waiting for it by the time it dropped.

sullen forge
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And then it died like immediately

placid fiber
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I hate pvp tho <.<

frosty herald
tranquil bone
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did they? I only remember people saying it was a bad idea that would be near impossible to balance

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(me)

sterile basalt
carmine lance
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Oh 100%

placid fiber
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Yep

carmine lance
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It depends on the map but if I’m especially locked in I tend to do alright

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For having to solo a clutch

oak ice
carmine lance
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But idk if I can do a full map

carmine lance
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Scaled for solo, then absolutely

sullen forge
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You start with consistently clutching

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Then you solo

carmine lance
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True

frosty herald
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All of the people demanding solo mode would die on the first room if it disabled last man standing spawns

carmine lance
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I can consistently clutch when I run knife zealot but idk if that’s actually meaningful

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It’s knife zealot

sterile basalt
hard nexus
heady rapids
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people want solo to not have to do dogshit penances

placid fiber
heady rapids
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not to prove themselves or anything lol

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and good bots too

oak ice
sullen forge
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Psyker is weak

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It needs the buffs

oak ice
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BUt lets be honest. The Ai companions in Vermintide 2 could solo the entire game

heady rapids
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they solo legend

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kinda fold on cata

sullen forge
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It’s totally like I didn’t play melee psyker and did Zealots job better 10x fold

sterile basalt
# hard nexus wtf,,,

psyker so op that even if power sword could run BM + sunder + cycler + slaughterer + rampage all at the same time (this is literally killing 4 ragers per swing)
vet still is not half as good as psyker

sullen forge
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Like psyker literally

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Feels like playing Ogryn now

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That’s how brainrotting it is

sterile basalt
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lolol

sullen forge
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Actual truth nuke

heady rapids
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psyker would be more balanced if psyker players werent dogshit at the game

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so fatshark keeps buffing it

long oasis
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@carmine lance

sullen forge
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It needs the buffs

sterile basalt
sullen forge
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Ignore the fact that veteran is now unironically more of a glass cannon

carmine lance
long oasis
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veteran is just a guy

heady rapids
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genuinely the only playerbase that were worse at the game than psykers

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were camo vets

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and those are long gone

sullen forge
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Extinct species

heady rapids
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fatshark learned their lesson with sienna

sterile basalt
heady rapids
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no one wanted to manage peril

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and cast things

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yk

mystic ether
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Zealots are generally the worst in my experience. Lots of praying not enough practice.

heady rapids
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so now peril managment is gone

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and

mystic ether
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Like pub randod

long oasis
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bold thing to say in zealot chat

heady rapids
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you dont get staves

carmine lance
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I like camo vet (its a shittier shroudfield)

heady rapids
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and uh

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you get a gun

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yeah

sterile basalt
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@sullen forge they did do 1 thing right for psyker this patch tho

sterile basalt
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the post-buff battle meditation is pretty peak

sullen forge
sterile basalt
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I can't lie

heady rapids
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mythical recommended pull

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holy shit

heady rapids
sullen forge
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Quietude was not combined for a reason btw

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SG you become actually unkillable

heady rapids
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but it made sense there

carmine lance
heady rapids
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camo was an old talent pre p13 that gave you threat res for STANDING STILL

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you know what it competed with?

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75% DAMAGE RESISTANCE

sterile basalt
carmine lance
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Maybe I’m playing psyker wrong, but I actively avoid things that proc a little bit of quelling

mystic ether
# long oasis bold thing to say in zealot chat

Zealot is one of my most played classes anyway.

A lot of zealots really do just flail and hope their kit does the rest. Run into them a lot in my time. Maybe it's q carry over of bias against zealots from vt2 but the same behavior is present usually.

sullen forge
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Urghh yummy DR

carmine lance
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I want to ride high peril and I find it easier to manage if I manually quell

long oasis
sullen forge
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That’s how you should be playing

violet hornet
sullen forge
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You want to ride 60-85% for max warp rider

heady rapids
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you get nothing by playing at low peril

long oasis
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like below heresy you can 100% just spam assail and win the game

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and then learn nothing

sterile basalt
long oasis
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what are the good peril reduction nodes right now

heady rapids
long oasis
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I havent touched psyk

carmine lance
carmine lance
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Gotchya

sullen forge
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Stupid chud veteran

carmine lance
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Yeah I don’t do that

mystic ether
# long oasis I feel like that stereotype applies more to psykers still

They're a mixed bag for me tbh. Most are present enough to know how yo divide their time, efficient responses to something going wrong etc.

They're like mediocre ogryn in my broad pub experience. The good ones usually just throw everyone in the backpack or might actually do basics like better combos etc.

sullen forge
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It’s called skill

sullen forge
long oasis
carmine lance
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I throw dodges and blocks/shoves, tho if knife has combos that’d be news to me

sullen forge
frosty herald
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Gale is so scary

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I almost died...

carmine lance
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M1 spam is kinda my main option against hordes, but I’m smart about it at the very least, and I go for heavies where I can

long oasis
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gale scares me on a deep primordial level

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halloween is at the end of october

sullen forge
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Can’t handle my jawsome swag

long oasis
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isnt your pfp a shark

heady rapids
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gale still looks like pawsy from a dsitance

long oasis
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if youre a shark then why do you have ears

sullen forge
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Cause generic furry standards don’t question it

mystic ether
# carmine lance Define flail lol

Usually just ppl getting used to stronger builds and just enough defense to squeeze by. If it's not the mk15 evis, I've had zealots showing off their auric and havoc trinkets still just mashing m1 with weapons that don't even warrant it. Terrible target priority and poor efficiency on deep dives. That sort of thing.

If they awkwardly manage their tempo enough off off pox hordes they just mash dash on cooldown.

Most zealots are like bad voc vets for me. Their kit is safe enough to compensate for their mistakes but eventually the wall shows up and they just flounder and die. :/

sullen forge
long oasis
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doxxed u

heady rapids
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i alr told you........

mystic ether
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The rare case are the ones that bitch about other people after giving up an easy hound pounce or something.

sullen forge
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I don’t rember…

long oasis
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who is pawsy

sullen forge
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My shark brain is smooth

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So unimportant information slides off

carmine lance
long oasis
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sharks have insane memories

mystic ether
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Like the crybaby shade/waystalker kerillian types. Or mediocre witch hunters that flail and burn ukt on cooldown.

long oasis
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maybe ur just bad at being a shark

heady rapids
mystic ether
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Well back then for vt2 at least. Idk what folks get into nowadays there.

heady rapids
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i cant find the regular pawsy

sullen forge
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Can you give us a rundown on this person

carmine lance
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I think that’s what I appreciate about knife zealot. Like shroudfield helps a lot, yes, but when shit hits the fan, you kinda just gotta rely on positioning

heady rapids
heady rapids
sullen forge
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Oh

carmine lance
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The invis, while super helpful, is still pretty brief all things considered

heady rapids
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the color palette just looks 1:1 when you zoom out lmao

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so when i reply for example

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is ee pawsy

long oasis
heady rapids
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noelle from deltarune

sullen forge
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Noelle deltarune

long oasis
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a terrifying visage

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forward facing eyes

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predatory deer species

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I would run

placid fiber
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tfw the deer hunts you

heady rapids
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noelle is faster and can freeze her enemies

white temple
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Is anyone here lfg?

mystic ether
# carmine lance I think that’s what I appreciate about knife zealot. Like shroudfield helps a lo...

Shrouds and infiltrate are pretty rare because lots of people need their personalities to require just shitting all over it. The good ones are like fucking phenomenal because they have to be or they know enough to game their cooldowns in the case of shroudfield enjoyers and infiltrate vets before the tactical awkwardness nerf especially.

Arbites is a mixed bag but they're usually carried hard enough by the class at times that the less experienced ones can stumble their way up and solid ones are just like anyone else with a powerful build and powerful class and enough applied experience.

Ogryn for me are usually leaning towards better on average I'd say but many more are loudly just praying like zealots.

Zealots and vets are probably some of the lower performing randoms I've met like I said. Voc and fury of the faithful. Whole lot of praying, not much conscious practice yet.

Not the end of the world but it's just what I noticed a lot over time.

ripe quest
# long oasis predatory deer species

they're monsters, intelligent, and have magic. They're apex predators like humans are. Do you look at a human with forward facing eyes and go "I'd run" Busy_Cat

long oasis
white temple
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No they found him

long oasis
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yea

white temple
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Or he found them..

long oasis
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how many furless mammals can you see in the wild

white temple
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You don't find the lion.. the lion finds you

long oasis
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lion is a bum

mystic ether
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As long as they don't have some weird in lobby meltdown flaming people (which is much rarer now I'd say) it's usually whatever and I always offer merge runbacks. Sometimes reinvite people from wipes where we honestly did pretty well together and picked up on each other's habits as teammates.

ripe quest
long oasis
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I am budai

carmine lance
mystic ether
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I'd say the most observant players in my experience are like...probably good ogryn and psykers. It's rare for me to be the one in severe trouble and then someone fires the right shot and saves my ass.

carmine lance
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And even from my experience of playing arbites

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That was genuinely my training wheels into auric

mystic ether
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And even if im doing nutty zealot stuff or running invis or castigator, I really do regularly check squadmates' collective 6. That's just a habit from l4d2 versus and realism fr.

carmine lance
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Then I brought psyker in and I had to not suck lol

mystic ether
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Check your mate's blindspot from time to time and a lot of shit changes for everyone.

heady rapids
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@frosty herald hh on sergi arena is op btw

carmine lance
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That’s a good habit to have

carmine lance
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But yeah arbites really is a super easy class, I’ve seen people get into auric and suck ass with the class

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So I can see that be where they’re finally hitting a wall, if not in damnation

frosty herald
mystic ether
carmine lance
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Honestly lmao

plush estuary
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easy H40 accept

heady rapids
plush estuary
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yeah

frosty herald
mystic ether
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And fwiw, not having a solid base of fundamentals to draw from are gonna stop anyone. VoC vets probably the biggest meta slave blunderers I saw out of anyone back before unlocked and unloaded.

heady rapids
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its john ogryn

carmine lance
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I do prefer combat knife, but sometimes I do break out the thammer build

mystic ether
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Like legit just falling over dying and whining about tankiness and it's like

carmine lance
#

Martyrdom shroudfield is good to bring into havoc, who knew

mystic ether
#

My brother, you just give your back to doorways that you don't check uh

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The class not gonna save you m8 lmao

carmine lance
#

It’s insane to me that the boss one tap build is so rare

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I’ve never seen another person run it

mystic ether
#

You still gotta be able to fight outside of it.

carmine lance
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Oh I do

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Thammer is still an everything stick, I took a couple perks for horde clear

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I made sure to not be a wetnoodle in regular combat lol

mystic ether
#

Because shroudfield and infiltrate builds can often just not have resources to give themselves toughness steroids when a pilot fails to maintain steady tempo, a lot of people still learning it just gave up because if it wasn't cycling shroudfield, they couldn't really hang back then when shroudfield was a tad harder to play.

carmine lance
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I’m still playing zealot, I still like to be in the front lines where the fighting is

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So I kinda have to be able to not eat shit lol

mystic ether
#

Especially with thammer imo. At least knife and duelling shroud could sometimes last longer in tougher spots.

carmine lance
#

Yeah, pious cutthroat is crazy on knife

mystic ether
#

Even if they awkwardly met the stereotype of the knife loner who...doesn't actually cover people while also being really bad at covering themselves. Oof.

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They could just live longer yk?

carmine lance
#

I generally try and stick with the team when I play knife, but there’s not much I can do when people are in a giga fucked spot, or are half the map apart

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Ill try but like

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You can’t ask me to cross the continent and get both rezzes

mystic ether
#

Thammer newbies? They had to really love the playstyle. In my case, I got hella experience with shade kerillian. Especially dual dagger shit where your basics are what's saving you before it's showtime on a big doink on a boss.

void bison
carmine lance
#

I really should play vermintide 2 more

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I’ve touched it a little and that was it

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I think I got to the medium difficulty

placid fiber
#

Just put 2k hours into it

mystic ether
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Because you literally had like 1-2 shields for your defense. Your evasion was everything snd with dual daggers, you actually benefitted from leaning into your backstabbing as much as possible like some duelling sword shroud builds.

And I guess whatever that slash combat blade is. I usually prefer the mk3.

heady rapids
#

vermitnide is darktide if it was good

placid fiber
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It's easy

void bison
#

it is better than karktide

heady rapids
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the elf is horizontal

mystic ether
#

I think it does some things better than darktide but darktide is a much more fluid experience.

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I don't need a specific class to have access to basic fun movement.

carmine lance
#

I do enjoy darktide having a much more fleshed out skill tree

heady rapids
#

oof

carmine lance
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I know it didn’t originally

heady rapids
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fleshed out is a big stretch lowk

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well not as bad rn

carmine lance
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I mean as in, getting a talent every level up

heady rapids
#

but hey

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they could've benefited from the old system a lot

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class locking weapons

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for better balance

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and other shit

mystic ether
#

That mafe identities clearer in vt2 which is honestly a great strength there but given what happens between darktide is a step up in the overall experience in some ways to me.

It's also probably the most accessible tide title.

void bison
#

the movement kinda makes darktide much easier than vt2 without havoc and I dont play havoc because it seems toxic and has no matchmaking

heady rapids
#

oh it is easier

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vermintide is block focused

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every weapon runs bcr

plush estuary
heady rapids
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block dodge defensive shit

plush estuary
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I got hit 3 things not for me

mystic ether
#

Kinda?

heady rapids
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darktide you just zoom around

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ez mode

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darktide has to go to great heights to lock you into melee

lean cairn
void bison
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the characters have better dialog too because they are real characters

tranquil bone
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It is def much easier to get away with bad positioning in DT when you can at any time sprint and slide your way out.

mystic ether
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It's also that vt2 really isn't heavy on the ranged play in the same way as a standard loop. Ranged weapons have far more stretched liberal applications compared to vt2. You still used them plenty and builds focusing on them always existed and performed at their own mileage but that was a bit more special I'd say.

carmine lance
#

It’s funny, sometimes the sole reason I’ll be the last person standing in a dtide match is because I can realize “hey maybe the hallway isn’t a nice place to be when there’s a wall of crushers approaching, and a flamer in there too”

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And then I hear 3 downs

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One after the other

heady rapids
#

vt2 ammo economy doesnt exist

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every wep has infinite ammo

carmine lance
#

Even after managing to nail the flamer with a knife

tranquil bone
#

Melee classes run a infinite ammo special sniper ranged classes run a infinite ammo everything sniper

heady rapids
#

fun

carmine lance
#

What

sullen forge
heady rapids
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so

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every shot is free

plucky sparrow
heady rapids
#

crit focused builds get uh

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whats it called

mystic ether
#

I'd say that vt2 ultimately challenges players more to stay on point across higher difficulties in a way that doesn't have the same margin for error and passive neglect that darktide stress at its actual highest difficulties.

heady rapids
#

ammo back on crits

mystic ether
#

Like being inconsistent in vt2 punishes players far more compared to darktide.

plucky sparrow
void bison
#

saltzpyre rapier is very fun

heady rapids
#

verm is infinitely harder by virtue of having blightstormers

void bison
#

so is sienna fire flail

heady rapids
#

oh yeah also

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gw does not give a shit about fb

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so vermintide gets to have nice things

carmine lance
#

I find myself wanting to have a way to know for sure that I’m competent at this game lmao

mystic ether
#

But once one just gets experienced enough in vt2, the clockwork performance is very similar.

heady rapids
#

also verm has an actual roguelike and twitch mode

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fun stuff

void bison
carmine lance
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Lmao

void bison
mystic ether
#

Darktide has more variety in terms of some dynamic classes and talents compared to vt2 imo but vt2 has some of the more engaging classes by comparison.

You can also just forgo any of that and play easy to execute, safer against stress classes and builds and cruise because both games go nuts with their power creep.

void bison
#

6'7 bench presses 425

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built like a fucking brick

heady rapids
#

darktide is like

plucky sparrow
void bison
#

if you uninstall both games you have 100s of gbs for frog content

heady rapids
#

1 step forward 2 steps back

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in terms of game design

mystic ether
#

Necro sienna was a fun psyker adaptation with extra steps lol

plucky sparrow
mystic ether
#

I love the class. Didn't explore it too hard beyond generalist builds.

heady rapids
#

sienna is fun af with regular sword and explosions on crit

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try it

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necro

carmine lance
#

Maybe i will play vt2 more so i can be better at dtide

mystic ether
#

But that's my curse with sienna. I either obsess over her potential or just play some of the same builds over and over lmao

void bison
#

unchained sienna my beloved

mystic ether
heady rapids
#

when are we all playing btmp

carmine lance
mystic ether
#

Upkeep on weakspot damage and pulling off tough shots in the moment are actually much more common scenarios of greater weight so it'll low key force you to sharpen your target priorities real quick.

carmine lance
#

Thats useful lol

plucky sparrow
carmine lance
#

Disablers are high on my priorty list, as are aoe stuff

placid fiber
#

blightstormers... vt2's best special

carmine lance
#

Then I start worrying about stuff like crushers and maulers, and other elites

placid fiber
carmine lance
#

Crushers are slow, they’re only scary because of the one tap

plucky sparrow
carmine lance
#

But that wind up is super slow

placid fiber
mystic ether
# carmine lance I like playing saltzpyre because cool rapier and pistol but maybe I will try ker...

Kerillian is a load of fun that I'd say rewards experienced players with greater freedom via mobility. The majority of her weapons just give her an edge in the evasion department because they typically are the highest in the game on average last I checked.

She has some extremely safe builds through waystalker and handmaiden, with handmaiden being much closer to a weapon specialist vet in terms of flow with some builds.

You'll be mostly tested on your fundamentals heavily in those cases because your combat utility isn't as outrageous by comparison to others but your output is substantial.

Meta kerillian is flexible on top of her just being good period.

plucky sparrow
#

Utter peak

plucky sparrow
mystic ether
#

I'd say if you really want to just make yourself get yourself polished on melee fundamentals, you can honestly just run mercenary kruber or most witch hunter generalist builds and be fine.

placid fiber
#

legit no special can match my hatred for blightstormers

heady rapids
#

handmaiden can straight up clip inside the map

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and not care

mystic ether
#

I think the special I hate the most is like

heady rapids
#

weaves 101

mystic ether
#

Idk

heady rapids
#

playt hm

placid fiber
mystic ether
#

I can't think of one I hate fe.

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Fr.

placid fiber
#

gotta love it when vt2 stuff is fun

plucky sparrow
mystic ether
#

I guess minotaur with unchecked banner beasties is the actual devil.

carmine lance
#

Maybe I’m just deaf, but the one thing that threw me off with vtide is a lack of audio cues on enemy attacks

heady rapids
#

bw is literally hitler

carmine lance
#

Bw?

carmine lance
heady rapids
plucky sparrow
ripe quest
heady rapids
carmine lance
#

It wasn’t as notable for me as dtide

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So it’s a bit difficukt for me

placid fiber
mystic ether
mystic ether
royal sandal
mystic ether
#

Like actually fucked up and annoying.

royal sandal
#

I could never hear the backstab noise and thought it didnt exist

tranquil bone
royal sandal
#

to the point where I made my own mod in modded realm just to boost the volume by like 10 dB

placid fiber
delicate shadow
mystic ether
#

There's steam guides for that one so check out but with minotaurs it can mix things up a bit more regularly while just being more disruptive. Plus, any significant breaks in collective dps makes things worse cuz the bastard has the best regen out of all the bosses.

hexed igloo
#

Why do people not wash themselves a guy just came in and filled the entire fuckin store with a potent reek instantly

royal sandal
#

its mostly a 3 hit sweep (3rd attack has no hitbox), then it rotates between either a large sweep or a slam

tranquil bone
#

I'm sure I'll remember that in like a year when I randomly decide to do one run of vt2

placid fiber
royal sandal
#

would definitely just recommend looking up a guide

delicate shadow
#

write it down and pin it to your wall

royal sandal
#

minotaurs are really fun to fight when you get the hang of it

plucky sparrow
royal sandal
#

especially if you bring riposte rapier for no fucking reaeon

mystic ether
ripe quest
plucky sparrow
royal vortex
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coward

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wrong letters

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im a fool

mystic ether
#

Unsure how up to date things are with that one but they were one of the main sources of information out there for the game on steam guides.

ripe quest
royal sandal
mystic ether
#

Widely popular at least

carmine lance
tranquil bone
#

I don't think enough has changed to render any of the royale guides obsolete

long oasis
royal sandal
#

if anything only the thp rows changed

tranquil bone
#

I've not played since like before necro

placid fiber
mystic ether
carmine lance
#

True

royal sandal
#

the game hasn't received a significant balance change

#

ever tbh

plucky sparrow
royal sandal
#

since the BBB at least

ripe quest
mystic ether
#

Or the fun one where sometimes mobs are just in one big cluster of themselves?

plucky sparrow
#

cue the one DH video

placid fiber
carmine lance
#

Also I want to quickly say that you have consistently been giving very solid advice and I appreciate you for doing that havelthumbsup @mystic ether

royal sandal
#

poxwalker magically appearing in thin air

delicate shadow
#

only significant recent-ish thing aside from the THP changes was the engi rework

hexed igloo
heady rapids
#

what about the boss killers nerf

ripe quest
royal sandal
#

you can still nuke bosses

delicate shadow
#

plus on most maps you can just cliff a boss if you don't have a nuke

carmine lance
#

Cliffs are the og nuke Clueless

delicate shadow
#

or kill it on navmesh, if you know you know

placid fiber
plucky sparrow
royal sandal
#

ledging my favorite

heady rapids
#

oh and gk got infinite cleave there

royal sandal
#

❤️

royal sandal
#

no reason why they gave it infinite cleave

ripe quest
carmine lance
#

Oh yeah, in running shroudfield, I’ve made an interesting discovery

plucky sparrow
royal sandal
#

Let me wake up and grab the clip

delicate shadow
#

honestly the worst hell is being held in fire by either a mutant or a BoN

carmine lance
#

Apparently while invis, shoving poxbursters does fucking nothing

mystic ether
# carmine lance Also I want to quickly say that you have consistently been giving very solid adv...

Oh uh, sure. I'm just talking yk and I enjoy seeing people pick up the games and learn more purposefully at their own pace. The community in general, while there's plenty of flaws like anything else fr, just has people that provide very good information and usually challenges each other on staying consistent with knowing how certain things just work in the game.

For example, I'm not a numbers person fr, but I'm grateful that enough ppl obsessed enough over it to just have them available to cite with guides on how to read them and understand.

I didn't expect horde shooter nerds to have their own gamefaqs archive of info like arcade fighting games and fighting games period.

plucky sparrow
ripe quest
plucky sparrow
mystic ether
#

The excel chart lab gremlins put in a lot of work over the years and people build up on that and so on so people just have access to community driven information bubbles and that's cool.

carmine lance
ivory marlin
#

Hello everyone

ivory marlin
#

I wish i were a bird

mystic ether
plucky sparrow
ripe quest
ivory marlin
#

Omg hi exhil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mystic ether
mystic ether
#

I really didn't expect that I'm so serious @ripe quest

ripe quest
# mystic ether Hd2cord still crazy for that

I actually learned that it wasn't due to the spreadsheet stuff in particular but it was rather funny that I was able to work out a compromise given the real reason for the restriction in the first place.

mystic ether
carmine lance
#

I genuinely would like to see more people run shroudfield, but at the same time I NEED to throw a shitfit because then I no longer get to feel special smh

void bison
mystic ether
#

The idea of shroudfield must be transformed in the minds of the players in order for it to be sustained as a myth of their own choosing.

carmine lance
#

Shit, you’re right

#

Lmao

mystic ether
#

It can play on the dogma larp of the zealot playerbase, perhaps even slinking as positive humor and so on.

#

They'll repeat damn near anything if the drawing is ugly enough.

carmine lance
#

Lmfao, that sounds about right

mystic ether
#

The cosmetic for the shroudfield and right tree is called the indoctrinator. 40k nerds love falling for propaganda.

#

At least this one isn't actually dangerous

royal vortex
ripe quest
# mystic ether Huh, I see. I definitely thought it was odd that community driven information ac...

nah I retired from Helldivers so I doubt it matters much anymore. It was basically bc I was open about datamining, the arguments and whatnot caused by those resources were just small added problems to the main issue, which was the legality of me distributing info that was gained from datamining esp that I was known. If I had left prior to when the ban occurred it probably wouldn't have happened. Unfortunately devs are still super against anything stat driven, basically anything from a community resource that involves stats is met with a lack of any sort of appreciation publicly.

carmine lance
#

Im ngl I never used the shroudfield cosmetics

plucky sparrow
#

what do they look like again?

carmine lance
#

If anything I now run the voidfarer set for zealot

#

I think the mask is cool and the radiator pants are silly

long oasis
#

as the future buddha maitreya

heady rapids
mystic ether
royal vortex
plucky sparrow
mystic ether
#

It's the outfit with the base of the scripture wrapping on the hands.

mystic ether
#

Or whatever those things are.

plucky sparrow
#

it’s like the only zealot cosmetic I use

mystic ether
#

It's honestly pretty nice but I'm just partial to darker desaturated palettes.

delicate shadow
mystic ether
#

I like to cover just about all my operatives' faces with something.

ripe quest
mystic ether
#

Mask or headwear. Something.

heady rapids
heady rapids
#

well you dont understand it man its like a play on how the game is satire

#

and you're like

mystic ether
#

If I actually cared to pay the money for it, a lot of pysker cosmetics are just sick.

heady rapids
#

serving a totalitarian regime

#

unreliable narrator

#

you're not meant to know anything!!!

mystic ether
#

Serving a fascist one. They're pretty explicit but yeah. The meta gets a little silly in that regard

heady rapids
#

recoil 8 unironically makes me go mad

mystic ether
#

Punished for demystification of an entire system in any way can be grounds for getting clapped since well, yeah the game got legalities surrounding it anyway.

carmine lance
#

Lovely

spare talon
#

valor mortis shows a lot of promise with the pre-alpha test, what little i could get through of it

placid fiber
mystic ether
# carmine lance Honestly gotta agree

Idk the context but a lot of the clothes they get are more immediately stylish and at the very least don't seem to only be about some uniformed duty stuff.

#

Vet jackets are neat.

spare talon
#

shame that they havent optimized it (which they did say that optimization hasnt happened yet), because the game fucking hard shuts down my pc

placid fiber
#

rip pc

spare talon
ripe quest
# delicate shadow I can understand they have that desire and why but like...gamers just don't work...

That too yeah. Like there's always going to be a subset of a community dedicated to optimizing stuff, even casual players sometimes like knowing exact details about what they're playing. If the game itself is hiding literally 98% (not joking btw) of the stats from players and lying about some of what little people are given through official channels regularly, and community resources are slammed a bit, it's just wasting so much effort worsening the experience for those players. It's a miracle the wiki is even linked in a discord channel and that's an imperfect resource.

spare talon
carmine lance
spare talon
#

yea

heady rapids
#

recoil 6 if you wanna run the saber

carmine lance
#

Ghostrunner was great

mystic ether
#

DAMN THAT SHIT WAS FUN

carmine lance
#

Rather, ghostrunner IS great

mystic ether
#

Ghostrunner made me forget about 2077. I took them out of my contacts.

carmine lance
#

Sorry, I gotta give myself shit for that, I’m supposed to be a damn english major

mystic ether
#

They held me when I was led astray. 😭

carmine lance
#

I fucking love ttrpgs

delicate shadow
heady rapids
delicate shadow
#

but at least they don't stop people from figuring it out via the source code and testing n such

heady rapids
#

from their partners

#

even if they dont explain all the things they always put links in launchers and shit

spare talon
mystic ether
spare talon
#

and fatshark chooses the wrong video

#

like that time they used mine on the launcher

heady rapids
#

fatshark isnt very smart that much is true

#

but they're trying

carmine lance
#

The og one

heady rapids
#

they forgot to renew the vermintide 2 launcher domain like a month ago

#

which was also funny

carmine lance
#

Tho i’ve played the entire series and enjoyed them, aside from invisible war

#

Invisible war fucking sucked

delicate shadow
ripe quest
carmine lance
#

I didn’t even know either factions goals and they were already asking me to take sides

heady rapids
#

i wonderwhat happened to the guy that put the flamer tank on wrong

#

does anyone have that pic

spare talon
#

anyway valor mortis ive learned so far has the lies of p blocking dealing recoverable damage, and deflections like sekiro
and its first person
its already peak

mystic ether
# carmine lance The og one

Fair enough. It's a strong piece yeah. Shadowrun games are pretty up there in terms of readily available titles to enjoy.

I'd say that it can helpful to also criticslly learn about 2077's production history as well since that gives a lot of insights to some questions you may have while playing.

carmine lance
spare talon
#

now they just need to make it not hard shutdown my pc

carmine lance
mystic ether
#

I've heard nice things about phantom liberty or whatever it's called but I'll wrap my head around it over time before I have my richer opinions on it.

#

I usually take my time with single player games.

carmine lance
#

That’s fair

#

And yeah I like to take my time as well

#

I genuinely still haven’t started act 3 on silk song lmao

mystic ether
#

100% isn't exactly what I always do. But for immersive sims it's usually a pretty good job time to explore as many things as possible in earnest.

carmine lance
#

Immersive sims are my favorite genre

#

I still need to finish ctrl+alt+ego…

mystic ether
#

I won't say much more since yeah, you can always find a way to get 2077 for yourself and think on it on your own. Don't wanna say too much to skew your own experience with it.

carmine lance
#

Gotchya, and thank you lol

mystic ether
#

Bare minimum, it's good to learn from for a lot of reasons. Even if it's only your analysis and engagement with games as art. What that means is up to you

sullen forge
#

@solar gorge Bro I literally played 1 match

#

1 fucking match

mystic ether
silver stag
sullen forge
#

Day 1 of BF6 introducing me to some of the funniest clips

long oasis
#

is this napoleon/

#

hes beautiful

hearty nebula
#

glorpoleon

north sedge
carmine lance
#

Mandalore returning from the abyss with a soma video reminded me I have it in my library lol

#

So i gotta play that

spare talon
bitter anvil
hard nexus
#

guys would u join my wolf pack

north sedge
royal vortex
#

dont hit me with that. its for science

hard nexus
#

we would hunt

royal vortex
#

what kind of uncultured ass wolf are u trying to be

north sedge
#

He just wants to impart the horror

royal vortex
short hull
#

ups,
Didn't mean to interrupt, I kind of “fell” in here ^^

hard nexus
royal vortex
#

can you taste cinnamon

north sedge
#

As an aside, stan thinks cinnamon is a very subtle flavor

hard nexus
#

i actually like eating soap

royal vortex
#

would you rate the sensory experience of sand in your hair as "enjoyable"

royal vortex
pale spindle
hard nexus
#

this

#

so words r being typed without thinking

royal vortex
#

why would u even think of eating soap

hard nexus
#

i did it once

#

as a dare

#

in the same 30 minutes i ate a raw egg

hard nexus
royal vortex
#

i was going to eat bread that had been washed with the soap still on it and my mom walked in on me and my cousins and was very disappointed in me

hard nexus
short hull
#

im on lvl 15

hard nexus
#

so i mixed rootbeer and milk and gave it to him

#

without him noticing

royal vortex
#

mittins once performed a splinter cell takedown on his dad because he didn't believe the animations would work irl

hard nexus
#

and he said the milk looked weird

royal vortex
#

that is somehow less sociopathic

hard nexus
#

so i walked up and had a sip in front of him

#

and said

royal vortex
#

wtf

hard nexus
#

it tastes fine

#

just drink it

#

(it was rancid)

#

he drinks it

#

says its disgusting

#

and i laugh

#

thne

#

i look at the jug of milk

#

and it turns out

#

the milk was spoiled too

#

so

royal vortex
#

what a tale

hard nexus
#

i drank spoiled milk mixed with rootbeer