dry hinge
If you’re struggling with parries, you’ve never been parrying properly before tbh
#zealot-class
carmine falcon
the issue im having with parries isnt the average parry u do everytime but rather needing to parry 1000 lictors 1000 ravengers and 10000 biovores that all decided to melee me
carmine falcon
is have some genuine fun instead of punching a brick wall
i live for the pain.....
median steeple
Deus Ex fan so that makes sense
slate haven
i live for the pain.....
Freaky
void bison
Deus Ex fan so that makes sense
elon musk's favorite game
slate haven
Yuck
median steeple
slate haven
PU stinky
sullen forge
the remaster makes me want to commit unspeakable horrors to whoever is making it
Murder
slate haven
U ruined it
frosty herald
god that "remaster" looks so ass
everything so shiny
oak ice
Continue the convo from there
Me?
sullen forge
When pookie is a furry
carmine falcon
only night dive studios is allowed to touch classics like deus ex
frosty herald
only night dive studios is allowed to touch classics like deus ex
new blood remaster
carmine falcon
yeah got the trailer in my reccs
slate haven
I’ll get back to u
carmine falcon
another good looking remaster
frosty herald
the blood refreshed supply is weird because we already have a blood remaster
carmine falcon
remaster remake remaster
signal spoke
violet hornet
We are zealot chat 10% of are probably masochists
Conservative guess 
oak ice
Conservative guess <:badbrad:1336906850045526068>
I mean i could go higher but I already said that 80% of zealot players probably gave adhd
misty nova
We are zealot chat 10% of are probably masochists
Life is pain
And I'm a masochist
void bison
20% masochist 20% sadist 20% sado-masochist 40% human being
solar gorge
100% awesome sauce
mighty root
When pookie is a furry
Sorry
solar gorge
warped trellis
acoustic dune
I gotta say, im loving martyr thammer
i am ok with shroudfield matyr thammer being meta
iz funny
misty mason
Is it meta?
violet hornet
I hope so, maybe they'll nerf shroudfield 
acoustic dune
@grox is shroudfield matyr thammer meta
acoustic dune
I hope so, maybe they'll nerf shroudfield <:whatthefuck_heresy:10497244442072391...
nerd shroudfield
violet hornet
Redundant really all shroudfield users are nerds
acoustic dune
Redundant really all shroudfield users are nerds
like you
violet hornet
grizzled laurel
is it faster to not fully charge knife heavies when moving?
acoustic dune
is it faster to not fully charge knife heavies when moving?
idk
grizzled laurel
hell yeah
acoustic dune
the lunge feel faster
misty nova
Is it meta?
Yes but not for good reasons
misty mason
Ah dumb
grizzled laurel
yeah it feels faster if you only charge like 90%
misty nova
Make sure you have Unfaltering
grizzled laurel
but i cant say for sure
misty mason
Yeh I've been using it
Feels crazy how fast you move now
How are people finding momentum?
I tried making an attack speed build but it just seemed like a worse martyr
misty nova
The talent?
misty mason
Yeh
misty mason
Yeah I kinda think they should make it able to build during activation and drop one stack at a time
So it actually feels like momentum
Rather than this weird buff you need to juggle and pause offence to get the most out of
violet hornet
yeah it feels faster if you only charge like 90%
You can tap your melee weapon button (for me it's 1) while holding heavies to automatically start your heavy hold animation again rather than needing to finish it or block cancel
north sedge
Ij is pretty much just if you want something that also affects ranged, the great reshuffling really worked out for marty
mighty root
And you don’t have to take damage
misty mason
Yeah it's great being able to have 2 wounds of health left and still have max martyr
violet hornet
Yeah having to not worry about randoms sneaking up to you with a health pack or syringe to heal you is QoL lol
misty nova
Ij is pretty much just if you want something that also affects ranged, the great...
Ranged pfffrr
As a zealot
Pfffrff
violet hornet
Or the level 35 arby getting on mic to scold me for not using medicae
acoustic dune
Or the level 35 arby getting on mic to scold me for not using medicae
we getting 5 more level
?
misty mason
I think true level
violet hornet
Yeah it's great being able to have 2 wounds of health left and still have max ma...
I run all three so I can get max Marty bonus in the last two wounds instead of one
acoustic dune
oh
misty mason
I run all three so I can get max Marty bonus in the last two wounds instead of o...
ditto
acoustic dune
that
north sedge
Nothing beats the dude in deadlock who went off on me about 3 minutes into the match and did not stop for the entire match (slurs included)
misty mason
Other than pgunmooks the update has been great, im glad to feel like most of the classes are in a good place
Tweaks still needed for sure, but I no longer feel like im actively nerfing myself by not playing arby or bubble psyker
I do think they should maybe up thammer carapace damage or something, if only so a non martyr can one tap crushers as god intended
ripe quest
Ranged pfffrr
As a zealot
Pfffrff
misty ravine
Tweaks still needed for sure, but I no longer feel like im actively nerfing myse...
And then you get the Plasma Gunner Squad Deep Strike
misty mason
Im honestly kind of shocked pgunners got through testing
misty ravine
testing
misty mason
They are so much more threatening than literally anything other than bosses
north sedge
I blame exhillious
misty nova
<:smug9:734929531101773904>
Pfffff
north sedge
I blame colxhillious
misty nova
I still have to give my gun zealot a go with the new tree
open bramble
i blame darcy
misty mason
Ive tried a couple of scrier psyker builds and I feel like Ive almost got it, but still not quite there
misty mason
Probably cause Im not used to the greatsword tbh
open bramble
@misty mason It feels really strong, I wish scryer's + gsword was a bit better against crushers
You kill everything else instantly, though, I guess
misty mason
OH btw, Ive seen a few clips floating around of the quickload revolver/ex stance on vet. Seems good but heavily reliant on consistent headshots, since its a marksman's focus build. Any thoughts?
modern lintel
Maybe hitler
misty mason
Ive just been using peegun and it feels great
misty mason
<@217085984393658368> It feels really strong, I wish scryer's + gsword was a bit...
Yeah I think Im just out of practice with psyker
And get over confident when im in scriers/playing like im a zealot
misty nova
OH btw, Ive seen a few clips floating around of the quickload revolver/ex stance...
Just hit your shots 
misty mason
Just hit your shots <a:gigachad1:1124858362501271702>
man, i have a mortgage
open bramble
Yeah I think Im just out of practice with psyker
u just yolo forward and mash assail and lmb with gsword and everything dies, and you have insane dmg mitigation
ripe quest
Im honestly kind of shocked pgunners got through testing
Prob will get touched up on soon, lotta feedback for them.
misty mason
u just yolo forward and mash assail and lmb with gsword and everything dies, and...
Yeah this is probably my problem, I was running it with smite so I could get the shock on hit talent
ripe quest
I still have to give my gun zealot a go with the new tree
agri railgun is fun this time of year
misty mason
But assail seems like a much better fit, given the amount of peril reduction/quell you can get
I am a chronic boomer when it comes to assail
Scriers would help with that lol
misty mason
Prob will get touched up on soon, lotta feedback for them.
Im not sure if im imagining it, but I feel like they're ignoring the tbreak iframes
violet hornet
I do think they should maybe up thammer carapace damage or something, if only so...
Played Marty thammer on havoc 30ish and could only kill the rot armor gang about as quickly as another would spawn 
misty mason
Maybe the wrong way of putting it
Im in oceania so I dont bother with havoc
Not enough players to get matches consistently
violet hornet
That's fair
violet hornet
Yeah I have only ever played havoc with randoms and it's certainly rough out there lmao
misty nova
agri railgun is fun this time of year
I'm more of a Zarona Shotgun guy myself
open bramble
sigh, i wish providence didn't exist
solar gorge
biggest roadblock is getting a party
open bramble
it's a spy
nova saddle
hey anyone has a Double-Barrelled build? seems like a fun weapon
obsidian prairie
Its better on vet
Zealot doesn't build around their ranged
though it is a kinda neat sidearm
north sedge
Played Marty thammer on havoc 30ish and could only kill the rot armor gang about...
"We've reduced the number of crushers, anyway here's a modifier that spawns 18 crushers per second"
acoustic dune
Zealot doesn't build around their ranged
I AM THE RANGE
solar gorge
it's the whole baby crushing machine coming at you
acoustic dune
violet hornet
got to 40 randoms only
I barely made it to 40 before the most recent reset lol
solar gorge
1 havoc match played = 40 minutes staring at the party finder
that's why they call it havoc 40
violet hornet
Legitimately yes lmao
north sedge
Got to 38 a couple months ago then we had a string of absurd nonsense and took a break for a while
solar gorge
have friends who play dt and are decent or kill yourself
is the message i got from this
north sedge
Can i do both
solar gorge
yeag
frosty herald
1 havoc match played = 40 minutes staring at the party finder
i tried going for havoc 40 2.0
quit after getting to 23 because it was a giant waste of time
2 tries failed rank up 2 tries failed rank up
north sedge
My favorite nonsense us doing really well almost done with archivum, then the void shield bug killed 3 of us at once ending the run
solar gorge
i did all except for this patch
obsidian prairie
not correct aspect ratio but otherwise peak shit
misty nova
sigh, i wish providence didn't exist
It actually very ok
misty ravine
Not enough players to get matches consistently
I'm on NA West and Havoc Party Finder was still a ghost town last time I bothered with it
misty mason
I do kinda think the vet keystones still need some work
misty nova
Revive/assist speed got buffed recently so it's actually not as bad as it seems
misty nova
thoughts on thumbnail
Not enough gas masks
north sedge
The other day we went to play havoc and we got server crash before we left the load out screen it was incredible
open bramble
Bolter doesn't feel that great against crushers anymore
violet hornet
My favorite nonsense us doing really well almost done with archivum, then the vo...
I would have raged hard. I definitely had one 40 run server crash just as we got to the finale and I was done for the week
north sedge
I would have raged hard. I definitely had one 40 run server crash just as we got...
Oh yea we called it after that
violet hornet
Bolter doesn't feel that great against crushers anymore
Kinda ass because that was probably our best anti crusher range and now we just have nothing lol
violet hornet
How can I run heavy sword ever if I can't supplement the terrible carapace damage with a ranged weapon?
open bramble
the amount of dust that my hsword has collected lol
violet hornet
I've heard good things about it
Even that guy in here with the vash pfp was saying it's good
grizzled laurel
vash the twink
not that he wasnt always kinda twinky
but hes more of the androgynous twink genre now
plush estuary
New video dropping in an hour
lunar fable
how are mission abortions still an issue
misty ravine
how are mission abortions still an issue
Netcode is archeotech
north sedge
Trapper wont let us use condoms
misty nova
Trapper wont let us use condoms
[deleted by admin]
misty mason
Oh yeah that was one of the first things I noticed after the update
Bolter suddenly felt weak as shit
But I think thats cause I was primarily pumping it into crushers and hadn't got a feel for the increased health
violet hornet
I still use throwing knives so unless I'm using the thunder hammer my bolter exists exclusively for crushers and monstrosities
misty mason
Thammer plus bolter is kind of a wild combo
violet hornet
And plasma gunners now I suppose lol
misty mason
The weird thing with running martyr now though is that I used to bring a horde clear option when running thammer
But with martyr you fucking juice hordes now
violet hornet
I tried thammer bolter with immo nades and I was not a fan, I only run thammer with flamer and tknives still
violet hornet
Hmm not a bad idea actually
misty mason
I thought you were saying you were running thammer and bolter
And that just felt like a hat on a hat
violet hornet
It definitely is easier to manage a horde with it than it was before
carmine falcon
But with martyr you fucking juice hordes now
its also cause stagger is bugged and we're dealing too much stagger
helps a ton
violet hornet
And that just felt like a hat on a hat
Oh absolutely lol I have seen people run it
misty mason
I used thammer so much when it was bad that I got used to it in hordes and have never had a problem with it
So now its beefy Im just luxuriating mang
violet hornet
Same, it's never really struggled with keeping the horde at bay but was never good at killing them off
misty mason
I think the change where they made the overhead have a tiny bit of cleave really helps
I think people tend not to use the lights as much as they should for horde clear
winter steppe
Thammer plus bolter is kind of a wild combo
Always was pal 
misty mason
Always was pal <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
yeb
north sedge
I hate the overhead as someone who was a hammer main back in the day
(It also sucks dick on an active dh)
winter steppe
(It also sucks dick on an active dh)
False, pal. Thammer is great at deleting awakened hosts.
amber igloo
as long as they don't adjust maniac dmg on tickle hammer, it will suck
a relic of a bygone era
winter steppe
Unless you’re just referring to the overhead still, which is also still great at deleting hosts.
amber igloo
Carrying a giant hammer and be terrified by dreg ragers don't seem right
winter steppe
Well, uh, I hate to break it to ya pal but I’d say you’re running thammer wrong if you’re spoked by ragers.
amber igloo
void bison
I hate lawan so much
amber igloo
winter steppe
Just bonk em with the special heavy 
amber igloo
it has the nonsensical inverse maniac dmg still
you mean light
heavy does less maniac
misty mason
Caxe had it too
violet hornet
I can remember laz hating the overhead on introduction as well
north sedge
False, pal. Thammer is great at deleting awakened hosts.
The overhead sucks when hitting a moving dh, horizontal heavy is a guaranteed hit
misty mason
more damage to maniac on light
violet hornet
He was committed to block cancelling into heavy 1 every time
misty mason
good ol laz
north sedge
He still hates it
misty mason
I have not seen them in forever
winter steppe
Just fury into heavy pal. You’ll hit it
frosty herald
overhead is peak
misty mason
Oh btw with shroudfield, does the bonus damage carry through into cleave?
frosty herald
highest damage attack profile and you can neatly delete crushers in a horde
north sedge
Whenever we play he complains about it at least once
frosty herald
also easy hits on BON
violet hornet
The overhead has kinda won me over for hitting shit in hordes but when the weak spot is not on top it's not doing you any favors
misty mason
Like if you drop a heavy swing do you juice everything in the swing or just the first target
winter steppe
also easy hits on BON
Unless the desync / hit box shenanigans strike 
frosty herald
The overhead has kinda won me over for hitting shit in hordes but when the weak ...
i dont know how the hammer exists in the game
violet hornet
For sleeping dh sometimes the head is off to the side and harder to hit with the overhead as well
frosty herald
but to me it feels like when i target a crusher it neatly ignores all trashmobs around it
violet hornet
Certainly not my experience lol
They are a lot taller so it's pretty easy to single them out tho
winter steppe
For sleeping dh sometimes the head is off to the side and harder to hit with the...
Well there’s the problem, I always aim for the back. Better to be safe than whiff going for the crowning
misty mason
I think probably my biggest issue with thammer usage is the janky collision boxes on bosses
Like you have to basically be inside the burgles grool to hit its weakspot
violet hornet
Well there’s the problem, I always aim for the back. Better to be safe than whif...
If you're killing them often you usually you want to hit the weak point, minimizes the damage they can do as they wake up
misty mason
And that with thammer which is one of the longest range melees
violet hornet
Also still getting fucking hitregged on stuff years after the game launches
winter steppe
If you're killing them often you usually you want to hit the weak point, minimiz...
Is a 2 tap anyways my guy. If that don’t work, just magdump via bolter
misty mason
You can literally be huffing a plogryns farts and still wiff if you swing at its back
violet hornet
Is a 2 tap anyways my guy. If that don’t work, just magdump via bolter <:KEKW_og...
Not after the patch it's not
winter steppe
Huh, well it still works for me
vague depot
is there any situation to use immo grenades in besides horde clear
north sedge
Burning bad guys
winter steppe
Oddly enough, I still run knives after the tree rework.
frosty herald
area of denial
violet hornet
Huh, well it still works for me <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
using fotf marty thammer on aurics with no stim?
frosty herald
enemies try to path around immo nades
winter steppe
using fotf marty thammer on aurics with no stim?
Ye
violet hornet
I don't think I've hit 2 shot once since the patch with that build
vs consistently doing it before
winter steppe
Ah, I misspoke, not in auric lol. On damnation yes.
Haven’t run auric since the patch dropped
violet hornet
Should be same hp pool for both
winter steppe
I’ll test it today then.
violet hornet
I assumed this difference was from duellist nerf but idk
I might not be stacking my buffs and shit right tbh
Probably still doable but I wouldn't be surprised if you need the perfect storm of full marty bonus, headtaker stacks, and duellist proc with weakspot hit, full thrust, and FotF
vague depot
enemies try to path around immo nades
oh shit thanks
misty mason
I think chastise would work fine with thammer
I did try a martyr, chastise evisc build which should have worked better than it did
But tbh I think it was cause Im out of practice with evisc
violet hornet
I had a similar problem after not running evis for months lmao
misty mason
And if you get swarmed by bulwarks and crushers you kind of need to know what youre doing
violet hornet
Mine worked okay with the piety FotF spam build I made for relic blade tho
But I would have been fucked vs that
misty mason
I made a tank build with a similar setup, but using relic and it was extremely good in trials
frosty herald
shroud hammer is really fun
misty mason
Havent run it in regular missions though
Cause with the evisc you can run wrath, so you don't actually need piety to also run crit CDR
And also grab the pre keystone crit damage reduction nodes
misty mason
Ha
acoustic dune
I HATE YOU DISCORD
misty mason
Now you have to send feet pics to Peter Thiele
acoustic dune
I HATE YOU
acoustic dune
Now you have to send feet pics to Peter Thiele
I am starting a revolution
frosty herald
I ACCEPT THE TERM OF SERVCE BY MISTKE
oh
misty mason
Why is the new ToS bad?
I literally just hit accept without looking
Im not American though, so im less concerned about my internet usage
acoustic dune
I literally just hit accept without looking
Bc
It's new
Nuff said
Why do they need to update it
Is my quwstion
misty mason
Probably cause of all the monetisation or something
Or passing your data along to the feds lol
misty ravine
Enshittification comes for all platforms
RETVRN to Ventrilo
misty mason
Mannn
I remember running ventrillo back in classic wow
And being mad every time a different voice chat got used
north sedge
it's just knify being paranoid
acoustic dune
it's just knify being paranoid
I have several women watching aerver
gleaming furnace
Im not American though, so im less concerned about my internet usage
if our courts werent rigged changing tos would be considered a breach of contract
delicate shadow
I mean if you're paranoid about your social media footprint you really just shouldn't be on discord
misty ravine
Why would any TOS ever be updated in a way that benefits users
acoustic dune
I can't let them know whom I am affiliate with
delicate shadow
I have several women watching aerver
ok wtf does this even mean
misty ravine
I mean if you're paranoid about your social media footprint you really just shou...
But also this
gleaming furnace
although these things should be considered void anyways due to the user almost always lacking capacity
misty mason
Just looked into it and I think the main thing is that they are changing is that they're claiming a license to use anything you put on discord for "improvement" purposes, which probably means training AI
misty ravine
Just looked into it and I think the main thing is that they are changing is that...
We should all endeavor to post things that will make their AI worse
misty mason
So if you put any genuinely original work on discord, you probably want to put a big old watermark on it
misty nova
gleaming furnace
quick everybody spam ai generated slop
misty mason
Or one of those AI ruining watermarks/backgrounds
gleaming furnace
kill the machines ! choke them with their own creations
frosty herald
Training ai has always gone well and never wrong at any point in history
gleaming furnace
We should all endeavor to post things that will make their AI worse
frosty herald
They also seem to have tightened their rules on depicting minors
Prolly saw what happened with roblox and locked in
misty mason
Yeah the gist seems to be that if it looks like a kid, it's a kid for moderation purposes
No anime shenanigans
visual stream
I mean if you're paranoid about your social media footprint you really just shou...
I have 43 traps laid out in my home for if Palantir decides to come after me
misty ravine
kill the machines ! choke them with their own creations
Train the AI on the worst AI generated content, it'll get Habsburged
visual stream
A 44th is in progress
misty mason
Train the AI on the worst AI generated content, it'll get Habsburged
theyre already using facebook to train it, wdym
acoustic dune
ok wtf does this even mean
frosty herald
Train the AI on the worst AI generated content, it'll get Habsburged
This is already happening btw
gleaming furnace
I have 43 traps laid out in my home for if Palantir decides to come after me
id be pissed at this if i was still a shareholder
frosty herald
Theres so much ai content online now its starting to take from itself
misty mason
Yep
acoustic dune
Nimium bubulae carnis comedi
misty mason
Certain reddits are clearly so brigaded by bots that they're functionally just propaganda channels
cough r/worldnews cough
gleaming furnace
thats just all of em bro
misty ravine
Theres so much ai content online now its starting to take from itself
Plus media outlets, research organizations, etc are all lawyering up to make their copyrighted content off limits for AI trawling, apparently. Don't know how well that will work, but assuming it does, it'll mean the AI's slurp increasing concentrations of their own AI slop
frosty herald
Plus media outlets, research organizations, etc are all lawyering up to make the...
There are ai news articles about reddit posts
misty mason
I remember an AI company getting sued for using a companies pictures, like shutterstock or national geographic or something
And they said they werent doing it
frosty herald
Some people have generated a newspost thats completely false by making a reddit post to bait the ai
misty mason
Then they used the AI to generate an image and it had the accuser's watermark generated by the AI lol
carmine lance
Man I just had an absolutely cursed experience in class today
acoustic dune
@carmine falcon I am eating the false prophet
misty mason
Sounds like a Fallen London time
carmine lance
Man I just had an absolutely cursed experience in class today
It was in the creative writing course I’m taking, and we were doing this collaberation thing with a copy editing course, so we used a different classroom. My laptop can’t hold a charge (had it since 2019) so I needed an outlet, which lead to me sitting next to the other neurodiverse student in the my class. Thing is, they’re uh, in the category of not being fully socially aware.
misty ravine
Some people have generated a newspost thats completely false by making a reddit ...
This gif is now unironic and sincere
misty mason
It was in the creative writing course I’m taking, and we were doing this collabe...
How many special interests did you learn about today
carmine lance
Im ngl, they were genuinely just looking at anime softcore for half of class 💀
carmine falcon
<@460880975283486731> I am eating the false prophet
we a need a third gentleman
mfw 13k ranged dmg by the second area
acoustic dune
we a need a third gentleman
But whom
misty mason
Im ngl, they were genuinely just looking at anime softcore for half of class 💀
As an anime fan, anime fans are the worst
long oasis
its about creative writing so basically fanfic class
training the next gen of ao3'ers
misty ravine
its about creative writing so basically fanfic class
Actually though
Paradise Lost was Bible fanfiction
long oasis
dont forget the chinese classic journey to the west
carmine lance
I’m the only one writing fan fic in da course… 
long oasis
show the fanfic
carmine falcon
@acoustic dune restarting lobby
acoustic dune
<@273449982101553154> restarting lobby
K
carmine lance
show the fanfic
I unironically will if you want
acoustic dune
God its midnight
misty mason
dont forget the chinese classic journey to the west
Sun Wukong moment 🐒
long oasis
God its midnight
if its midnight right now then why are you on 6-7 hours later
misty mason
Or is it Son Wukong
long oasis
how do u get up at 6 am
acoustic dune
how do u get up at 6 am
I dont
long oasis
Or is it Son Wukong
either or
acoustic dune
I have class at 10am
long oasis
孙 in 孙悟空 is pronounced sun
misty mason
Right, transliteration from Chinese into English is always so messy lol
carmine lance
Now you can laugh at me and call me slurs 
misty mason
But sun like sun in English or sun like sun in Sun Ce
Oh yeah how are people feeling about the falchion
Im not sure i rate it over the psword tbh
Although I haven't run the psword with new talents so I can't say that with confidence yet
iron island
long oasis
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1arvc97FMfH7wZKiLVhplZ4j_k7iIk_TfHoMl9dJTPX4/...
I like but I dont get the ending
carmine lance
I like but I dont get the ending
It’s not done
winter steppe
I don't think I've hit 2 shot once since the patch with that build
Tested my fury build just now. Yeah, no more 2-taps. Got a 3 tap though
visual stream
As an anime fan, anime fans are the worst
Just an Attack on Titan fan living in a world of My Little Sister Can't be This Cute fans
winter steppe
But that was without a combat stim
long oasis
But sun like sun in English or sun like sun in Sun Ce
it would be pronounced kinda like swun with a w added
visual stream
long oasis
It’s not done
does it have a minimum page count? I like vague endings
carmine lance
This is just the first chapter, and tbh it’s really vague about word count
Page count sorry
winter steppe
Tested my fury build just now. Yeah, no more 2-taps. Got a 3 tap though <:Sitgry...
My shroud build, on the other hand, still does the funny one tap , but it’s more squishy.
misty mason
it would be pronounced kinda like swun with a w added
So kind of more like Sun Ce?
I can't read Chinese characters so I know its probably different again
carmine lance
part of what I’m going for is horror of how mundane the attrocities of the imperium are. The fact that it’s just a dead body in the street, and starting off the next chapter, he’s going to not even blink at it
Just like “yeah, just another rotter. Bastard doesn’t even have the decency to have any meal scrips on him.”
It may help to know I’m writing this for an audience completely unfamiliar with warhammer
So I can capitalize on that a bit
visual stream
But at the same time make sure to give them enough exposition
carmine lance
But at the same time make sure to give them enough exposition
That’s what I’m trying to do
visual stream
Sweet good
carmine lance
It’s hard to find that balance because I’m not gonna describe literally everything
misty mason
part of what I’m going for is horror of how mundane the attrocities of the imper...
"He took in the surroundings. Multiple street lamps non functional, a door leading into a private hab that clearly couldn't close properly, a fresh corpse laying on the sidewalk that hadn't yet been reclaimed by the corpse starch vendors, particularly rust coloured water running from an overhead pipe. One of the wealthier districts he surmised."
carmine lance
Ooh that could be good
visual stream
It would be good to subtly work in the 40k terminology
visual stream
Yeah with context clues
carmine lance
Vox being used as radio coms, because that’s literally what a vox is
visual stream
Vox is one of those things that you just have to make sure it gets across well
Because yeah like how else do you describe it
carmine lance
I will say though, it’s funny that I almost have to tone down the grimdark a bit
carmine lance
Some of it is so over the top it loops back into being absurd and funny
Like having a servitor light switch is a bit goofy, but a servitor in charge of opening and closing a door is good
misty nova
Gas Huffer
carmine lance
Lmfao
visual stream
Like why the fuck would you even go through the effort of making that
Other than being an evil noble bastard
carmine lance
Grimdark for the sake of it
void bison
X13 gotta be the worst shit in any dying light
carmine lance
If anything I’m kinda easing into the grimdark for now because the drukhari are going to be involved in the story I’m writing
:)
Stealing the sun (funny drukhari prank)
frosty herald
Unleashing a warp rift in the middle of comorragh (lighthearted dogmatic prank)
carmine lance
True!
The idea is that some members of the pdf squad are going to be allowed to live, and now the drukhari are playing the most dangerous game with them
frosty crescent
is there really much of a difference on melee attack speed talents with martydom's boost
i only wonder
carmine lance
Absolutely fucking with them all the while, when they’re trying to hold out long enough for one of the imperial guard regiments to get involved
craggy jackal
Can we use mods safely yet
misty ravine
Like having a servitor light switch is a bit goofy, but a servitor in charge of ...
We used to pay people to do that
misty mason
I got scoreboard working but had to reinstall all the framework mods
It also throws an error every time I start the game, but doesn't seem to cause any issues
carmine lance
We used to pay people to do that
Lmao
carmine falcon
@heady rapids
just have a vanguard and bulwark to pump out heals and a heavy to kill everything ez pz
acoustic dune
I AM FREE
misty mason
It feels very silly that the falchion and peegun share heat
Like mechanically, I get it
carmine falcon
misty mason
but very silly in practice
acoustic dune
Got I forgot about this gif
copper hawk
I wish there were stories from like
median steeple
full nebula
copper hawk
A chaos cult starts on their planet among their slaves or experiments or whatever
Among former imperial citizens
But it's a God Emperor cult
misty mason
But it's a God Emperor cult
suddenly genestealers
copper hawk
And it spirals totally out of control like a Chaos cult would
And they open up a warp rift and Imperial daemons start spilling out of it
I think it'd be a funny flip on the unusual way of things
Like on commorragh or smthn idk
misty mason
And they open up a warp rift and Imperial daemons start spilling out of it
accidentally pull an en route voidship to them
copper hawk
Like a certain story with an IW warsmith named Honsu and a certain gizmo that made new CSMs
copper hawk
accidentally pull an en route voidship to them
Yah
I was telling meow about this in a call
copper hawk
Where Imperial daemons would show up, and maybe the Empy uses it as a way to influence the realworld more directly and smite some foes
misty mason
Woopsie its a Minotaur battle barge and they've just launch drop pods to find what pulled them here
copper hawk
And personally pull voidships of sms or guard or adeptas
Anybody
Currently translating through the warp to the warp rift like being dropped off at orlando disneyland while ur en route to sea world
Ala like Slaanesh does w their followers, or Gork and Mork w Ork ships frequently
It'd be funny
copper hawk
Woopsie its a Minotaur battle barge and they've just launch drop pods to find wh...
LMFAO
Oops! All Blueberries
copper hawk
Or just to see the Daemonic aspect of the Emperor in reality
median steeple
up there with space shark fans
misty mason
I guess the legion of the damned is kind of like the equivalent of Imperial demons
copper hawk
To see how they fear His presence
To show how powerful he's gotten since the opening of the cadian gate
And the fucking minis would look sick
An Imperial daemon ,, woa ,,
copper hawk
I guess the legion of the damned is kind of like the equivalent of Imperial demo...
Yah
median steeple
at most you get with imperial "daemons" is LOTD even tho they don't really count
median steeple
saints have physical bodies tho
copper hawk
The Emperor used his psychic might to revive Ferrus Manus in the War in the Webway
median steeple
same with LOTD they seem to have physical bodies
copper hawk
That'd be fucking sick for a like
median steeple
so they can't really be "daemons"
golden flint
I wouldn't consider the emperor in his current state a chaos god any more than other warp entities like eldar gods or gork and mork
full nebula
frosty herald
Seems like ferrus manus is shaping up to be the primarch of the legion of the damned
median steeple
He's hasn't ascended yet that was his whole thing in TEATD
golden flint
Right
copper hawk
An SM book where one of the dead primarchs was revived in spirit for a time cuz of the warp rift, sort of like the equivalent of a Bloodthirster of Khorne manifesting in realspace cuz of a particularly bad incursion
median steeple
that's the reason he got fucked by Horus is he held back to stop from ascending
copper hawk
And SMs from their Chapter/former Legion got to see him for a final time
Seeing the Warpy side of Primarchs is cool ,,
I like qhen the Emperor actz like a chaos god ,,
It coole ,,
median steeple
Avenging son has that kind of
copper hawk
so they can't really be "daemons"
They can exist in two places at once though
median steeple
also plague wars
woeful elm
is martyrdom just a meme or should I give it a shot, im relatively new so i dont wanna troll my teammates
copper hawk
Who I'd also call an Imperial Daemon
median steeple
it's good
Sanguinor is the only one I'd call an imperial daemon
but LOTD and a lot of saints have physical bodies iirc
which doesn't fit the MO of pure warp entities like daemons
copper hawk
Celestine has to go back to the Warp to put her spirit back together
Pretty daemony
Autumn sale time meow !
copper hawk
I always saw it as an Imperial world is like a Daemon world
Where Daemons can exist in realspace in Daemon worlds
median steeple
it looks so weird at least the autumn art looks good
copper hawk
An Imperial daemon existing around Imperial worlds since theyre all essentially daemon worlds for the Dark King from Chaos' perspective
copper hawk
im guessing wrath
Perfect strike shred
visual stream
whats the other blessing you'd use on Evis perfect strike?
If you're running a crit build, perfect strike and shred
copper hawk
Only for havoc really
misty ravine
whats the other blessing you'd use on Evis perfect strike?
Shred
copper hawk
Not necessary in auric
modern carbon
oh yeah true
copper hawk
In auric you can run shred and rampage
All u need
I have a build i made last night if u want it for evis 3
It fucks heavy
modern carbon
thanks my goats
modern carbon
I have a build i made last night if u want it for evis 3
naw just making more shit for havoc
copper hawk
Jack of all trades weapon
High damage
Alright cleave now
It's a thunder hammer inverted kinda
Great mixed horde clesr, good against flesh and alright against armor
Doesnt hit crusher bps very well anymore
But swings very fast and has good stamina management
Shreds regular chaff almost at heavy sword 9 level
With the benefit of being like
A low tier but still alright havoc weapon
Especially with perfect strike
visual stream
Pstrike ignores carapace cleave block or no?
copper hawk
Which really is required in high havoc
modern carbon
I just don't like T hammer shit in Havoc and I already have a DS build
visual stream
Oooo that's unique
visual stream
Including bulwark shields
HUH
visual stream
That's insane
visual stream
And it buffs crit damage which you're already building for
copper hawk
But it makes for a great cc and damage spreading tool
modern carbon
bleed spreading too
visual stream
Shart and Awe is jealous of Pstrike
hard nexus
copper hawk
She dropped a 1.5mil damage havoc 40 game beating out a plasma ps vet
In old shitty havoc
With pre pre buff evis
She an
Expart
royal vortex
goodbye
copper hawk
She explain better than i can
copper hawk
@modern carbon evis 3 w shred and rampage, flak elites, dump mobi
visual stream
cleave carapace and shields on crits, multiplies cleave by 4x
Sharterhammer needs a way to obliterate bulwarks
copper hawk
Ur play style is to spam push attacks
median steeple
also just not getting games in general due to party finder not working
visual stream
An activated opens up one but blehhh
copper hawk
Doesnt need tk be activated
As of now cuz of the stagger bug
H2 heavy opens bully shields
modern carbon
<@993407787663102052> evis 3 w shred and rampage, flak elites, dump mobi
my goat
copper hawk
Happened to me last night
solar gorge
everything gets staggered super easily
median steeple
Just everything is more staggery?
yeah stagger threshhold seems to be lowered
copper hawk
I use it to snipe specials
solar gorge
by every weapon
median steeple
that's why thammer can obliterate everything
misty nova
What exactly is the bug anyway
Fatshark fucked up the equation used for calculating stagger
visual stream
No GW to knock ragers out of combo anymore, right?
visual stream
Yah
misty nova
No GW to knock ragers out of combo anymore, right?
Yeah
Still need headshot though
misty mason
Oooh I wonder how bistol precision build with nuvet would go
solar gorge
it's basically permanent GW for everyone
copper hawk
median steeple
also hammer feels good to use with the buff
misty mason
I feel like a deadly accurate build could do some disgusting damage
visual stream
The buff?
median steeple
the well worn CSGO knife you unboxed after hours of gambling
misty mason
Talent changes i assume they mean
visual stream
Feels like only a slight upgrade but yeah it is
misty mason
Martyr is actually good now
visual stream
Oh well I'm a two wound for lifer
visual stream
So I guess I'm missing out
acoustic dune
I am sleep
carmine falcon
misty mason
I do think we're still going to see most builds have 80% of the same picks though
solar gorge
viscous ball
median steeple
solar gorge
slapping mah bellay
misty ravine
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298164946181296220/1409798484529381427/g...
GLORPUS used BELLY DRUM!
solar gorge
respect viscous
visual stream
slapping mah bellay
This post got me slapping my belly and farting. I'm such a gassy human
full nebula
sullen forge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302535546673037362/1417907795738759198/e...
WASH MY BELLAY
visual stream
respect viscous
mfw unreactable knock-up that does burst damage
median steeple
maybe humans don't deserve to speak after reading that
solar gorge
mfw unreactable knock-up that does burst damage
just parry it
misty mason
Oh well I'm a two wound for lifer
I was running piety before people realised it was good, trust me when I say you should give martyr a try
visual stream
just parry it
You need an item to parry abilities, no?
misty ravine
This post got me slapping my belly and farting. I'm such a gassy human
Get yourself checked for Nurgle's Beetus
visual stream
Or is that ability special
visual stream
Oh
misty nova
Martyr is actually good now
🧑🚀 
solar gorge
parry that shit twin
visual stream
That's not intuitive but good to know LOL
solar gorge
median steeple
solar gorge
kind doorman helps drifter to his favourite hiding spot
misty mason
🧑🚀 <:gun:959843387048071230>
Mad at good, or mad at now?
median steeple
viscous gets pass for annoying bullshit because he's funny
misty mason
Lol
solar gorge
i like the gremlin unfinished current version a lot i want some of the vibes to stay
misty nova
But hey
Ain't complaining
Martyrdom is foolproof now
And just free Corruption Resist
misty mason
lmfao when did chop suey get a suicide warning on YT
Chop suey is literally a suicide reference lol
They called it that to get around censorship
median steeple
Yeah but like I haven't seen that warning till today
misty mason
It should read chop sui
median steeple
I listened to it yesterday
misty mason
YouTube continuing its march towards being a children's content platform
sullen forge
im going to send the image istfg
median steeple
Oh, my fudfesicles
misty mason
Should have called it Chop Sewer Slide. Shaking my smdh head
misty nova
misty mason
You seem to not understand social media
The point is to make you upset to the point that you can't stop using it
But put enough guardrails up to pretend like that isn't the point
solar gorge
I have escaped samsara I can't fall for that shit anymore
median steeple
scp reference......
misty mason
I actually think social media sights are leading the charge on the age restriction legislation that's being pushed around the globe
misty nova
Persona Reference
misty mason
Cause if its legislated that you have to be 16 to use Instagram, then when kids inevitably use it anyway and get fucked up, the company can just say they weren't supposed to be using it
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/daladada-cat-crying-cry-scream-gif-24748831
PUT ME DOWN HITLER
misty mason
And blame the parents
solar gorge
misty mason
Its the same thing with restricting language
median steeple
I love that video so much
misty mason
Make it that you can't say certain words technically and then you get to shirk the blame
visual stream
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/15661573701745956794/AF64DAB6F299B59F694DF9...
You are the Divine Punishment for Drifters and Sinclairs
solar gorge
uyaya wa wa we
left hare
anyone having connection issues?
calm charm
Man what the hell are plasma gunners
misty mason
broken
visual stream
i slap asses for a living
It always feels like cyberbullying when I kill Vindicta
The floor tether is their last line of defense
"Please stop chasing me"
misty mason
Tough as a mauler, does more damage than a shotgunner, shoots at long range, has virtually no sound cue and applies a debuff to toughness gen
Seems to ignore tbreak window too
visual stream
Tough as a mauler, does more damage than a shotgunner, shoots at long range, has...
Their sound cue is alright if they're the only thing in a room
But the timing is like Dancer from Dark Souls 3 level of weird
winter steppe
Seems to ignore tbreak window too
Don’t forget the potential for stagger lock with more than one plasma gunner
violet hornet
Seems to ignore tbreak window too
it's like a havoc modifier enemy found its way out into normal queue games
winter steppe
Yeah pal
tranquil bone
Their sound cue is alright if they're the only thing in a room
I swear to god the cue only plays after the thing has already killed you.
gleaming furnace
Man what the hell are plasma gunners
a totally unforced error. abysmal horseshit.
visual stream
The plasma gunners' timing feels like Fatshark took notes from Elden Ring while they were on vacation
plush estuary
Tough as a mauler, does more damage than a shotgunner, shoots at long range, has...
suppression immune and about the same stagger res as a mauler
tranquil bone
The idea of a Mauler tier ranged elite is neat but they stacked the fuck out of these dudes
The debuff is just straight up vindictive
misty mason
Yeah its kind of wild if you have two pgunners that arent standing next to each other you really start sweating
visual stream
They were less cautious about buffing an enemy than they were about buffing zealot 
violet hornet
Tested my fury build just now. Yeah, no more 2-taps. Got a 3 tap though <:Sitgry...
Damn I was hoping I'd missed something and this was still possible
misty mason
Like doing the finale of the carnival where you do the arena part, having two targeting you on the stairs is spooky
violet hornet
winter steppe
It might just be unoptimized though. Will grab in a moment.
visual stream
I avoid Carnival because I don't like the ranged spammy finale in the first place tbhing
void bison
plasma gunners sound unfun
visual stream
plasma gunners sound unfun
They're really fun if you like having ten Margits to manage at once
winter steppe
Current version of my fury bonk build. Thammer has Thrust / Headtaker, and Unyielding/ Carapace.
vague depot
Any suggestions for making the 20 headshot kills easier
winter steppe
Is that the one where it’s in a row?
vague depot
Yea
winter steppe
Use psyker brain blast.
violet hornet
Any suggestions for making the 20 headshot kills easier
brainburst on psyker
vague depot
Thats funny as shit lmao thanks
visual stream
Is it one per bullet or one per hit?
winter steppe
Yeah pal
violet hornet
Current version of my fury bonk build. Thammer has Thrust / Headtaker, and Unyie...
hmm I didn't think about taking backstab stuff while still doing marty that's not a bad idea even if just for burgle hate
winter steppe
Eh, more damage is more damage
misty mason
The other option for headshots is the revolver since it has very generous hitscan
But bb is definitely more reliable
winter steppe
The other option for headshots is the revolver since it has very generous hitsca...
Until the hit reg just dies
violet hornet
melee damage only, but I think the attack speed is for both
misty mason
Ah boo
misty mason
Was gonna say that a brauto would be disgusting with 60% extra damage or whatever it is
violet hornet
30% attack speed bonus on it would not be too bad but the damage would be been staggering
ripe quest
melee damage only, but I think the attack speed is for both
Martyrdom's attack speed is melee-only.
violet hornet
classic fatshark not explicitly writing it despite doing it on the adjacent node
misty mason
Boo
violet hornet
the placebo effect was good enough for me
ripe quest
classic fatshark not explicitly writing it despite doing it on the adjacent node
yeah, I do think I understand how it happened tho. The numbers for a provided stat are pulled literally from the stat, not written in, so with Judgement they listed both individually as it gives both individually. But with Martyrdom it just gives the one, so it was listed as 'attack speed' since per-talent it tech didn't need the melee/ranged part clarified
yet another flaw in the grand mechanism that is darktide 
misty mason
Did they do anything to momentum with the update?
ripe quest
yea
obsidian prairie
Its hilarious now
ripe quest
upped stacks to 20, changed toughness to over time instead of on-proc, added Eternal which is 6 -> 10s per stack
misty mason
I still think it should tick up while active
ripe quest
Does it not?
misty mason
I havent used it in a long time so I could be wrong
I just think its a really poorly designed capstone for what it's trying to convey
ripe quest
Should have two separate buff slots, one for the active buildup of stacks and one for procced stacks. Once you proc IJ it moves the stacks from the first to the second.
misty mason
Ye
I personally think they should remove the non-active buff and just have the active version that ticks up and refreshes itself when it increases
Maybe remove the build via sprint
Have it be on dodge
misty mason
No it would build as you're in combat
Rather than being instantly full as you enter a new encounter
And then shitty versions proccing during combat
Unless you actively avoid engaging while it builds
So it would feel like you're building momentum as you fight
Rather than feeling like you're a spinning top that needs to wind up before attacking
ripe quest
The whole point is that you're rewarded for better gameplay with full procs of it, the 'entering with full stacks' thing is a byproduct of one of the build conditions and not the primary intent with the keystone.
misty mason
The whole point is that you're rewarded for better gameplay with full procs of i...
And I think this is bad design
violet hornet
Tested my fury build just now. Yeah, no more 2-taps. Got a 3 tap though <:Sitgry...
So I tweaked my own build a little to have those backstab talents since I was pretty close to the 2 shot:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff2ebd5-00e4-4c7f-8711-c7d3fe85c8dd/new-bonk
time to go try that shit in a match
misty mason
If thats thammer/martyr, Im not sure flamer is the best pairing
Since martyr thammer murders hordes
violet hornet
Just force of habit for me at this point since I have been running them together since skill trees were added
misty mason
Fair
ripe quest
Flamer isn't mainly for hordes as well. It covers Thammer's weakness of mixed crowds quite well.
violet hornet
yeah I usually only expend ammo for a mixed horde
misty mason
Yeah I suppose thats fair
violet hornet
given the crusher hp and plasma gunners I might start regularly running my armor hate flamer from havoc tho with pen flames
visual stream
I just think its a really poorly designed capstone for what it's trying to conve...
I would be fine with them downing the stacks back to 15 if it applied to the swing that proc'd it 
misty mason
IDK, if it were me I'd ditch the movement focus and just make it be a build on hit/kill thing
So you get progressively faster/stronger as you're in melee
So it feels like youre building momentum
Funny that
visual stream
For it being a keystone that is on the "backstab sneaky man" part of the tree, it doesn't make sense that it only applies to every hit BUT the first one
mighty root
If thats thammer/martyr, Im not sure flamer is the best pairing
Flamer and bolter are top picks on zealot
I love the flamer when I get 12 bulwarks
misty mason
Flamer and bolter are top picks on zealot
I was specifically thinking flamer and thammer pairing, but they raised a good point that flamer is good for mixed hordes
ripe quest
For it being a keystone that is on the "backstab sneaky man" part of the tree, i...
That's a fair criticism but dropping it to 15 stacks for such a fairly small upside is wild.
misty mason
Well extra specifically flamer thammer pairing on martyr build
violet hornet
Flamer and bolter are top picks on zealot
almost like when you have so little talent support for ranged you must take an option that brings its own power
visual stream
That's a fair criticism but dropping it to 15 stacks for such a fairly small ups...
True, I'm just desparate because that's a change they should have made a year ago or something
violet hornet
I am guilty of using only those two these days
violet hornet
I used to brauto like half my games before they removed ranged armor downgrading from chastise
misty mason
I would imagine revolver loses a good chunk of utility with martyr over piety, due to losing the crit chance
violet hornet
tknife does so much work
misty mason
Would still be good, but I feel like it'd lose its edge
mighty root
Yeah I only run flamer unless I’m using knife
misty mason
I have barely used flamer since the talent trees dropped
oak ice
If only I could I have a second knife
misty mason
Its pretty decent against bulwarks?
mighty root
It’s amazing lol
misty mason
Ive used the flamer staff a fair chunk recently, but I feel like it wasnt as effective on bulwarks, but might be misremembering
ripe quest
I used to brauto like half my games before they removed ranged armor downgrading...
I still use it for the generalist utility it has, it handles shooters and gunners quite well and the main weakness of it is something Zealot's melee almost always can cover.
violet hornet
They should add a ranged option that's just a big knife that shoots out little knives so we can have that with throwing knives and a knife
mighty root
The bolter and flamer are the best ranged options
visual stream
mighty root
Then you have brauto and revolver
visual stream
Yeah I've been malding about it for a year LMFAO
violet hornet
prisma magnet
yo i've been out of it for a while, what's the new sauce with the relic blade?
visual stream
yo i've been out of it for a while, what's the new sauce with the relic blade?
hit things go shing shing shing shwop BOOSH shing activate vwoom vwoom vwoom
Hope this helps
prisma magnet
sure that's what it always did
but i mean build wise is there something more specific or just the general piety setup
prisma magnet
what is lj
visual stream
Yeah IJ is probably better for it since the CDR is better on right side now
jagged crag
Inexorable Judgment
visual stream
what is lj
The right side keystone
tranquil bone
Inexorable judgment relic blade is a absolute riot. All the mobility stuff pairs so well with its running heavy.
prisma magnet
ok, i haven't been playing for a while so i don't remember all these abreviations
i will try it with inexorable
visual stream
Inexorable judgment relic blade is a absolute riot. All the mobility stuff pairs...
Just have to keep in mind that the damage only applies after the first hit you make in a fight
tranquil bone
Don't bother me none I was gonna keep swinging anyway
visual stream
Remind me what the IJ CDR node is?
Now it's weakspot or backstab hits = +100% CD regen for two seconds
visual stream
Or was it backstab kills specifically? Either way weakspot hits do it I'm pretty sure
mighty root
what is lj
Relic blade is flak + unyielding, carinal + wrath , dump mobility, https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda22ad-68a6-4234-8df3-7fea5a87a024/terrible-non-crit-zealot-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button use this build with it but drop thy wrath be swift for distain
prisma magnet
lol
misty mason
probably a pre patch build
tranquil bone
Relic blade is flak + unyielding, carinal + wrath , dump mobility, https://darkt...
I didn't look into perks tbh, is it really better not running cara in the era of buffed crushers, plasma gunners, and cara ragers?
misty mason
And every non-crit build was terrible by comparison (not really, but kind of really)
prisma magnet
Relic blade is flak + unyielding, carinal + wrath , dump mobility, https://darkt...
i like thy wrath tho, is it really worth dropping? does it get uninterruptible elsewhere?
or stun inmunity i guess
but idk maybe you're on to smth, i just know that thy wrath helps me clutch better
misty mason
I imagine with momentum you're gonna be swinging at sonic speed anyway
prisma magnet
i will try it out
full nebula
slate haven
Fat
carmine lance
Chainsword I ordered just arrived :)
full nebula
Thicc
frosty crescent
vermintide's kruber makes me wish for a sword and shield on zealot
misty nova
spare dome
its pretty much Agile 2.0
dense wolf
Do we think the Cleave talent is good if I wanna go hammer
misty ravine
vermintide's kruber makes me wish for a sword and shield on zealot
We got Dollar Store Relic Blades, no reason we can't have Great Value Storm Shields
spare dome
cept youre paying a talent point instead of a weapon blessing
misty nova
Do we think the Cleave talent is good if I wanna go hammer
Yeah
mighty root
i like thy wrath tho, is it really worth dropping? does it get uninterruptible e...
Yeah you get uninterruptible from unrelenting and slow down immunity from the sprint talent
dense wolf
I figured as much, I tried to swap the hammer for other weapons for better chaff clear and I realize IDC I just wanna bonk
misty nova
Free 24 cleave when 5 enemies
24.75
spare dome
oh point 75 you say???
spare dome
24 aint shit but that .75 really cinches it for me
plush estuary
cinches me like DN does
spare dome
please see a doctor
plush estuary
lmao
dense wolf
What're you guys running? I'm on martyrdom tank zealot with thammer and bolter pistol
Martyrdom is so fun
spare dome
this rn and unsure what im gonna change on it
misty nova
(surpasses the cleaver already)
spare dome
id love good balance and id love to try the new stamina aura