zealot-class

[delicate shadow]

that's alright, I'm almost 30 and dress like an early 2000s garage band member

[long oasis]

but I used to read shitty cultivation manhwas when I was younger

[jagged crag]

I remember the early 2000s quite vividly, since those were my highschool days

So do you trip on your baggy pants much?

(I say this as someone that wore them, it was a thing)

[delicate shadow]

I've mastered the baggy pants (sometimes yeah)

[hearty nebula]

carnitas finally done
they are delicious

[jagged crag]

I dress like it's still cool to be a Ministry fan

CUZ IT IS

[plucky sparrow]

Looks hella good

[jagged crag]

And you can't tell me otherwise

[delicate shadow]

HELL YEA

[spare talon]

At least you have a style
I just wear tshirt and jeans, maybe an open zipper hoodie if its not hot out

[long oasis]

can I have some

[jagged crag]

Oh, I do t-shirts and jeans. The shirts are either Misfits or Alice in Chains, though.

[hearty nebula]

that'll be $50 USD + shipping

[silver leaf]

So that’s really you in the picture

[spare talon]

My tshirts are solid colors lmfao

[long oasis]

just pipe it through the internet directly into my mouth

[jagged crag]

What picture?

[spare talon]

I dress like a background character

[silver leaf]

Avatar

No movie

[jagged crag]

That's not me.

It's a character I created in another game.

[silver leaf]

But basically you?

[spare talon]

So you've been lying to us this whole time

[delicate shadow]

how tender is it on a rank from 1 to people who just found out about plasma gunners the hard way?

[plucky sparrow]

Can’t believe your pfp isn’t you

[jagged crag]

Always

[plucky sparrow]

How could you lie

[silver leaf]

Guys I’m actually an anthropomorphic cat ronin

[delicate shadow]

never questioned this, it's so clear

[jagged crag]

I have a pic of me from when I was younger, but I'm dressed up for a black metal thing.

[hearty nebula]

for my first time ever making it?

like

9

[delicate shadow]

damn you popped off for a first time

[hearty nebula]

i could probably get it less dry feeling

they're fine

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/c2-c-squared-twocsinacod-2csinacod-wink-gif-25206195

This is cod

[long oasis]

cod is yummy

I like cod

[delicate shadow]

eh dryness can be covered up with sauces

[long oasis]

carp is good too

[drifting wolf]

what a load of carp

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/carp-fish-holy-carp-holy-crap-fishy-gif-26978677

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/on-cod-gif-2719497445038114894

[long oasis]

they look so silly while casually obliterating an ecosystem

[silver leaf]

Lmao

[delicate shadow]

my best shirt has a communist alpaca on it

[silver leaf]

People can’t handle snakes

[plush estuary]

snakes mentioned

[ornate bone]

Only their own

[runic grotto]

I love snakes

[mighty root]

My father only buys me carharrt now cuz I only like solid earth tone colors

[long oasis]

you cant make these ones into waifus

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/lamia-lololol-gif-25567033

why not

[drifting wolf]

snakes mentioned i love legless earless reptiles without eyelids

[runic grotto]

https://imgur.com/wzeq9Lr

[long oasis]

they would bite you and you would probably die

[delicate shadow]

people freaking out about snakes is so funny because that's like the number 1 way to make them fuckin bite you

[drifting wolf]

hog alert

[mighty root]

Wishing ainz a real life snake girl

[plush estuary]

I love hognoes

https://tenor.com/view/hognose-hognose-death-play-dead-deadpool-dying-gif-4586269755107399738

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/hognose-snake-snakes-hand-hug-hugs-gif-23044467

[mighty root]

Hog alert

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/she's-green-vyper-deadlock-she's-green-vyper-viper-viper-deadlock-gif-8901373001089358540

[long oasis]

engage in collective belief like orks

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/viscous-deadlock-viscous-viscous-lore-gif-1982888210221680263

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-squirt-snake-giant-spitting-cobra-gif-20687517

spittin' facts

[mighty root]

Feral hogs are fun to hunt

[heady rapids]

i recently learned that not a lot of humans can actually do that

[mighty root]

Straight up gun them down

[heady rapids]

and some can control when they do that

[hearty nebula]

bro finally learned what gleeking is

[long oasis]

humans are fucked up man

[jagged crag]

My friends could do that, and called it "gleeking"

[delicate shadow]

spitting?

[hearty nebula]

no

theres a difference

[runic grotto]

saying facts?

[hearty nebula]

one is cooler

[heady rapids]

apparently called gleeking

[silver leaf]

[gets spit on]
[rodney dangerfield voice]
You haven’t even paid me yet!

[delicate shadow]

gleeking...huh this is the first I've heard of this

[heady rapids]

when you open your mouth and spray spit

[drifting wolf]

there's some gland under your tongue that involuntarily ejects saliva

[heady rapids]

i can do it but i cant control when

[mighty root]

Stop making up words

[delicate shadow]

wild

[jagged crag]

They could spit a solid, projectile stream with alarming accuracy

[delicate shadow]

gleeking out rn

[plush estuary]

who up gleekin

[heady rapids]

i saw a guy the other day doing a fully controlled stream

[runic grotto]

I also gleeked

[swift hearth]

man being stuck at 20< havoc really like the Damnation >> Auric days

[runic grotto]

So that's what it's called

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-lunge-defensive-warn-hiss-gif-14759402

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hany19999995-abood-haniabood-gif-26672056

[mighty root]

Anyone else love being a chud

[glossy nimbus]

is fyre 50

[delicate shadow]

damn now I wish I knew how to do it, that would've been hella useful in traffic

[mighty root]

64

[long oasis]

79

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-spit-venom-opinion-gif-18617004

[silver leaf]

Hall of fame meme

[heady rapids]

its pretty disgusting

but somehow feels less disgusting than spitting

[plush estuary]

87

[glossy nimbus]

You can also learn how to gleek (the thing clams do)

[long oasis]

me

[glossy nimbus]

DON'T SAY THAT!

[mighty root]

You are the youngest person ever

[silver leaf]

It’s true he’s just a wee lad

[long oasis]

also youre gonna get banned now

[glossy nimbus]

DISCORD DOESN'T KNOW WHAT JOKES ARE

[silver leaf]

Be gentle

[long oasis]

delete that sjhit

[heady rapids]

lmao fyre your acc is gone

unironically

[drifting wolf]

is that in floppa years

[heady rapids]

youre done

[glossy nimbus]

(JOKE) DOESN'T HELP!

DELETE!

[mighty root]

I know I had it happen before lol

[heady rapids]

my friend did that once and it took him like a week to get it back

[elfin steppe]

what do you guys think

[long oasis]

the discord ai knows

[drifting wolf]

it's too late they've already seen it

[heady rapids]

fyre gone in 3 2 1

[mighty root]

I had to send discord a selfie and my drivers license

[jagged crag]

I sent discord a picture of my gaming chair, they know what is up

[royal vortex]

training in the tibetan mountains to unlock my long lost clam powers

[pale spindle]

@vapid depot you like snakes too?

[mighty root]

Fyre transcends

[runic grotto]

who doesn't

[heady rapids]

its funny that you can bait people into saying that

if they dont know about the thing

[drifting wolf]

rodents

[glossy nimbus]

Thats so fucking stupid

[mighty root]

It’s whatever lol

[mighty root]

I’m not gonna be bent over it

[long oasis]

you will be next data breach

you already know they dont delete that shit

[mighty root]

[heady rapids]

ill be looking out for fyre when that happens

specifically fyre

now that i know his driver license is in there

[mighty root]

I believe this is the most when my name has been said

[glossy nimbus]

is fyre named after the bald fish from spitoon

[pale spindle]

Don't bother cleaning 😈

[mighty root]

Borderlands

[glossy nimbus]

Nah ur a splooner

[mighty root]

[jagged crag]

BL4 is mid as fuck

[glossy nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/splatoon-3-splatoon-callie-splatoon-squid-sisters-splatoon-2-gif-720852303809840658

[drifting wolf]

dude is that fyrestone the locale from borderlands 1 and 2

[long oasis]

isnt it a car brand

[jagged crag]

Tire brand

[delicate shadow]

I must unlock this knowledge to keep salesmen away from me

[drifting wolf]

holy shit!!!

[delicate shadow]

wtf doxxing him like that

[long oasis]

do door to door salespeople still exist

[glossy nimbus]

roll down you window and gleek right in road ragers faces!

[long oasis]

their age is over

[glossy nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/gleeks-sweep-gleeks-gleek-ltg-godfrey-g-golden-gif-16218500156789400599

[delicate shadow]

they do...somehow

[mighty root]

My home……

[glossy nimbus]

https://youtu.be/55kBG5TD0OY

[jagged crag]

Remember when he doxxed himself and got mad when people suddenly knew his name and address...

[glossy nimbus]

there is a chance that Crash Bandicoots woo is a crows woo

[heady rapids]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ce7tbzlzmzrf1/pb/m2-res_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1759125600&s=6ac923bf396ee3ce5c8e86d75607e6d243d604d9

[glossy nimbus]

Remember when he deadass admitted to having a scat fetish on stream

It only gets worse

[jagged crag]

Yaaaaaaaa

It only gets worse

[glossy nimbus]

I don't know why he keeps playing fuckin street fighter

[mighty root]

I wish women were real

[glossy nimbus]

He keeps getting clowned on

[glossy nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/marina-ida-marina-octoling-octopus-splatoon-gif-3851380523991733339

[mighty root]

[jagged crag]

Because it's the only relevancy he's ever had

[glossy nimbus]

This feels like Wingsofredemption all over again.

[jagged crag]

Honestly, it's way worse than Wings.

Well, actually

Wings is a manipulative shit

LTG is pretty upfront with how scummy he is.

He's not trying to trick his audience.

So the jury is out on that. Wings is less hostile overall, but he's a manipulative shit. LTG is just obscenely and openly hostile, bigoted, etc.

LTG only kinda gets a pass for his famous speech being so easily memeable.

Also, he got dropped from a gaming reality show on the first episode, so lols to that.

[long oasis]

the primary factor for internet popularity is entertainment factor

ltg ranks high on that one because he makes a fool of himself every couple months

[glossy nimbus]

People keep funding this mf 💔

[jagged crag]

If you like Street Fighter and have a passing understanding of it, he has a lot of minor (entertaining) moments in between the ones that blow up

Dude spent all of SF5 playing Urien, complaining he was the only one not playing a top tier character, while Urien was top tier for most of his time in it.

He used Aegis like some kind of fireball rather than as a mobile wall to pressure against.

[silver leaf]

Yea… tiktok should be banned to dustbin of history

[hushed knoll]

STOP NO DOG

[mighty root]

[hushed knoll]

NO NO NO NO

IT'S NOT WISE

[swift hearth]

are people running stunstorm more often than immolation grenade on havoc

[ripe quest]

[hushed knoll]

No

[ripe quest]

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-cute-funny-cold-snow-gif-3473299

[swift hearth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343800136459091979/1360663902714859761/intelligence_zero_by_tarkov_aesthetics_EN.gif

[copper hawk]

fun game btw

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus

[copper hawk]

also tanked to autocannon snots

snots

SHOTS !

[median steeple]

snotling

[hard nexus]

slop

[exotic plaza]

yeah turn out it pretty good when you don't have to spend 4 shitty nodes to get it

I still run knife most of the time though

[lethal sedge]

What is better

[mighty root]

Tac axe, relic blade, thammer, crusher, knife

[lethal sedge]

So with tac axe lights for horde heavy for single target?

[mighty root]

Try this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-crit-zealot-build

@north sedge what son

Speak your mind…..

[north sedge]

fyre is just doing the ironic "ds sucks" thing, it's absurd

[mighty root]

Yeah going from knife, ds, then tac axe, then trying the ds again

The tac axe is better

[long oasis]

taxe has actual hording potential

for one

[visual stream]

Is Silent Hill F good?

Always wanted to try a Silent Hill game

[long oasis]

if purg and flamer didnt exist ds wouldnt be viable in havoc

[ripe quest]

It's fine. Not $70 worth tho imo.

[visual stream]

Oh they're following the "new AAA game" pricing?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290520074339356735/1326339855252197386/twitter_1876676656733306890.gif

[carmine falcon]

everyone is rn

[long oasis]

not silksong

[carmine falcon]

indie game

[long oasis]

ngl I thought team cherry was larger than 10 employees

[visual stream]

Kill Nintendo

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-f-sandevistan-hinako-konami-gif-3131135365214721857

[signal spoke]

Stop giving me those homophobic eyes

[deft badge]

You datamine for this game too? Got a question

[void bison]

the only thing i know about this game is the scarecrows are stacked

[ripe quest]

Been since a few months post launch. What's up?

[deft badge]

Has there ever been leftover scrap code for a tech priest class? I distinctly remember one of the OG OG promo images having them silhoutted as a 5th class.

[ripe quest]

Of the snippets of unreleased classes we have, nothing directly suggests a tech priest. However they've been getting better at hiding stuff for upcoming classes.

[deft badge]

Alright, thanks. Been wondering about that one for a real long time.

[ripe quest]

Based on what we have, to my knowledge "broker" has been in the game the longest. People theorize it'll be some ganger or rogue trader adjacent class.

[visual stream]

boowomping crazy style rn

[deft badge]

I wonder if it's "Information Broker"

[carmine falcon]

yeah this community is mega cooked

[ripe quest]

I like that at almost every point in that message there's something factually inaccurate with their comment.

[swift hearth]

ya it simplicty, when it ain't broke

[carmine falcon]

loads of people share this opinion btw its not some fringe take

i see it in many places

only play havoc
clearly not at the required skill level
crutch on op shit
i can only play op shit
dont touch my op shit

[exotic plaza]

me fr

[sullen forge]

Reminder 25 is the Havoc casual peak

anything above is meant for actual hardcore players

[delicate shadow]

higher difficulties for average skill level
um yeah people of average skill level aren't the intended audience for higher difficulties

[long oasis]

isnt 25 heresy difficulty

[sullen forge]

Literally lmao

[carmine falcon]

but i must play big number?

[sullen forge]

its heresy with extra modifiers

[long oasis]

theres no way

[carmine falcon]

25 is hersey? it felt juicer than old auric

by a noticeable amount

[long oasis]

probably because theres always a hi intensity modifier

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/sandevistan-gif-5369610590005971709

[long oasis]

people will play the higher difficulty and fail, then point and blame everyone but themselves as to why

[delicate shadow]

I swear to god the obsession with being a l33t g4m3r has ruined people's ability to enjoy challenge or even simply enjoy being average

[long oasis]

this is not even remotely new

[delicate shadow]

mfs gotta play for their e-peen instead of playing for fun

[carmine falcon]

BUT I MUST CLEAR BIG NUMBER

[mighty root]

High res….

[carmine falcon]

vet has no good ranged weapons btw

[long oasis]

heterochromia occurs more often in white cats, but blue eyes also occur more often in white cats

me when no melanin

[carmine falcon]

bolter, hellbore, recon, las pistol, shotguns, autoguns all shit bad and lame

plasma is king

[ripe quest]

It's wild that it happens in so many games like this. Like in Helldivers if max difficulty isn't achievable it's met with frustration. While super arguable it's partially led to powercreep due to public opinion finding max difficulty too difficult.

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-working-hammering-hammer-gif-14039888

[long oasis]

arent helldivers players complaining that the enemies are massively overtuned

like the new cockroach guy

[carmine falcon]

my yt helldivers feed are just people complaining about grunt fantasy

[delicate shadow]

arms race mentality when it comes to balance is a very easy way to literally never get a healthy balance

[deft badge]

I cant believe I get to have #the-armory chat in Darktide server too

[carmine falcon]

ig devs might have mentioned realism somewhere and people just memed it

[long oasis]

what does grunt fantasy even mean

[carmine falcon]

every server babyyyy

[long oasis]

divers arent grunts theyre special forces

[carmine falcon]

idk the context of the whole thing tbh

its just funny

i refuse to click on it

[delicate shadow]

Darktide's rejects are unironically closer to grunt fantasy but even then we're out here with faith powers n shit

[long oasis]

Ik about the apple bacon thing

bacon flavored apples... yumm

[mighty root]

Atm there is power creep but it’s not terrible power creep

[carmine falcon]

we're superhuman

[deft badge]

You ever play Dark Heresy?

The rejects are Dark Heresy PCs tbh

[mighty root]

A lot of people still suck and can’t clear aurics

[delicate shadow]

I have not

[carmine falcon]

PCs?

[delicate shadow]

player characters

[carmine falcon]

ah

i know darktide is based on dark heresy

[deft badge]

Fun game, should try it

[deft badge]

Very.

[mighty root]

Rejects op they can solo deamonhosts

[delicate shadow]

I do plan on playing the owlcat take on it

[long oasis]

they are also the most vocal

[deft badge]

Are they making a Dark Heresy game?

[mighty root]

They shouldn’t be it’s like for honor and destiny 2

[carmine falcon]

i lost 4 aurics in a row today 😭
im too rusty and cant carry and plasma gunners hurt.....

[exotic plaza]

yeah grunt that casually 1 tap 15 chaos spawn

[long oasis]

they should balance it like gtfo

that would be funny

[mighty root]

That’s fine you’ll eventually improve again

[delicate shadow]

never used to be that way (outside of thunder hammer I suppose)

[deft badge]

Let you become wildly powerful as long as you spend 100s of hours learning the game?

[delicate shadow]

powercreep fooked it up

[mighty root]

What did they do?

[long oasis]

knowledge is power

[deft badge]

Yes it is

[exotic plaza]

I love gtfo

[mighty root]

I wanna play gtfo

[deft badge]

I love GTFO as long as I don't have to queue with randoms

[long oasis]

the game is insanely hard unless you have a veteran carrying you since 99% of the game is map knowledge

[exotic plaza]

thing is that game have no player and i have like 1 person willing to play

[regal canopy]

What exactly does power creep mean?

[mighty root]

So just like dt

[long oasis]

yea dead game

[long oasis]

not even

[exotic plaza]

it's much more different

[mighty root]

Guh

[exotic plaza]

dt is just because it kinda fucking ass to find your way

[deft badge]

GTFO is stupidly niche, you kinda have to be in their discord to matchmake

[exotic plaza]

even vt2 have some kind of map marker

[carmine falcon]

tbf playing this game on 2 hours of sleep is bad

but yes

true

[long oasis]

man

xi jinping is so handsome

and hes younger than trump somehow

makes no sense

[glossy nimbus]

June 4th

[long oasis]

say the full thing coward

[copper hawk]

insane how ppl have these thoughts and post before sending it without reading what they wrote and bein like

wait a meowment ,,

[delicate shadow]

I MUST COMPLETE ABOVE AVERAGE WITH AVERAGE SKILL

biggu brainu

[median steeple]

[long oasis]

dont read steam reviews or youtube comments if you want to stay sane

[long oasis]

what on earth is that

[long oasis]

I dont get this obssession with singleplayer that everyone seems to have. It's almost like this game is not meant to be played alone.

[obsidian prairie]

"Ogryn main" 2.6 hours

[deft badge]

I think its because you could in VT

[long oasis]

And in 90% of matches the players are basically bots anyways

[obsidian prairie]

You do not have a main

you have played like 2 missions

[carmine falcon]

"optional melee"

[long oasis]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[carmine falcon]

yeah just stay away

[full nebula]

People complain a lot on pc but theres also solo mods

[delicate shadow]

the desire for single/solo play is legit but some of the shit people say around it is nuts

[carmine falcon]

tbh i want a solo mode too now

[delicate shadow]

like if you really are desperate just get the mod yea

[carmine falcon]

my internet is shit and will be shit for a whikle

game is painful on high ping

[obsidian prairie]

The funniest part about the people who want solo play

Is that like at least half of them would crumple while playing it

[long oasis]

also kinda weird that fatshark wont add it

like let them suffer if they want to ig

[carmine falcon]

im fine with crumbling i just wanna play my fav pve game with bad internet

[full nebula]

I still get better connection local hosting, or getting hosted by randoms somewhat in my region on vt

120 ping in a randoms lobby is more stable than 80 in darktide for me

[long oasis]

guh

The servers have been fine for me for the past few updates

and performance as well even with an almost 6 year old card

[full nebula]

Performance I don't have an issue with. Errors, occasionally crashing, ive had 2-3 out of memory errors since the last update

Even when my game hasnt been open for an extended period lol

[north sedge]

Havoc has too many server crashes

[full nebula]

Yep, I see a lot of people complaining about ruined runs in havoc

[carmine falcon]

servers are still shit

[full nebula]

I get a lot of no hit reg and ignored inputs too

[carmine falcon]

do u guys play any other online games? surely u experienced something with actual decent netcode right?

[long oasis]

yea

val

but valorant doesnt count because they have that dogshit fog of war system

[north sedge]

I don't have problems in auric, havoc specifically dicks itself

[full nebula]

Most of the other online games I play I rent my own dedicated servers so its not a problem normally

[silk egret]

clandestium gloriana seems to be the issue, other maps have been more or less fine

[deft badge]

Gloriana hell anyway

Fuckin walkways

[long oasis]

I love getting ledged

also boss spawngate ON the walkway

[full nebula]

When are they adding this to vestures

[silk egret]

been playing quite a bit and I have only had 2 server crashes, both on clandestium after the rail/train

[copper hawk]

insane lmfao

[winter oxide]

does anyone have a rashad build?

[carmine lance]

I too used to have the sentiment of hating playing with randoms, because it’s generally more fun to play with friends anyways. Then I got over myself and actually played the game and had fun

[winter oxide]

i cooked one with ij but i wanna see others

[carmine lance]

What weapon is rashad again

[winter oxide]

combat axe mk3

[carmine lance]

I don’t have marks memorized

Alright thank you

[long oasis]

the good caxe

[winter oxide]

this riposte perk looks good

[long oasis]

I would try playing it with a marty build

the attack speed is pretty nice

[carmine lance]

I never really bothered with the combat and tactical axes

[runic grotto]

they are awesome

[carmine lance]

Thammer and knife are all that exist to me

[long oasis]

if you like knife its almost guaranteed you will like taxe

[carmine lance]

I see

[runic grotto]

taxe is knife but it actually has good horde clear

[carmine lance]

Counter point

Bleed crit build

[potent mortar]

I love seeing the confusion on my team after one shotting a boss eith my not so stealthy Thunder Hammer Veilshroud Zealot

[runic grotto]

why are you wasting a talent point on a tax node

for no reason

[long oasis]

that node is melee damage is it not

[runic grotto]

why

there are way better things

WAY BETTER

[long oasis]

10% melee damage

[runic grotto]

than +10% damage

[runic grotto]

I would just use marty

[winter oxide]

no

[sullen forge]

10% raw melee or 20% on very common enemy types

[winter oxide]

hmm yeah i forgot that existed lo

[long oasis]

doesnt the calculation favor raw damage

idk

[frosty crescent]

why sprint cost reduction?

[runic grotto]

https://i.vgy.me/rrvEp2.png

This looks SO MUCH better

use this instead

[carmine lance]

How is it not super widespread by now

[runic grotto]

or even better, instead of toughness regen for momentum

get more attack speed, get punish impiety

[long oasis]

retributors is not worth it

[winter oxide]

guess i could swap retri out

[runic grotto]

This is you want IJ

https://i.vgy.me/9fMNag.png

But I would still use marty

[frosty crescent]

what weapon is this for?

[runic grotto]

caxe

[frosty crescent]

ah

[mighty root]

Eh

[runic grotto]

hence why no cleave

[frosty crescent]

more cleave would be better, no?

[runic grotto]

for what

[mighty root]

It’ll work

[frosty crescent]

or

[runic grotto]

It has 0 cleave

[mighty root]

You need that ij toughness node

[carmine lance]

I can’t see IJ being viable in higher difficulties

[mighty root]

It’s amazing

[carmine lance]

Because it’s only good for an opening attack

[plush estuary]

whuh

[mighty root]

What are y’all smoking tonight

[runic grotto]

wrong

[winter oxide]

i always use ij or piety even in h40

[runic grotto]

is it that good?

[carmine lance]

Genuinely enlighten me lol

[runic grotto]

ok

[mighty root]

It’s more than piety

It’s absolutely amazing

[runic grotto]

then probably that instead of +10% attack speed

or elite damage

[mighty root]

One sec

[plush estuary]

it has hidden buffs

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda22ad-68a6-4234-8df3-7fea5a87a024/terrible-non-crit-zealot-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button try this

[winter oxide]

any rashad build recs?

[runic grotto]

but

that's exactly what I did

Except for caxe you don't need unfaltering

so I got good balance

[swift hearth]

do a40s run for the door a lot

just clutched carnival

[runic grotto]

and against the odds is also nothing but +10% damage

[plush estuary]

against the odds is cleave

[swift hearth]

man even a17 was cooking

im not that guy

[runic grotto]

Caxe has like 0.0001 cleave

It does not cleave

[mighty root]

Use that build but drop the nodes going towards Marty, headtaker bm, flak unarmored

[winter oxide]

yeah my caxe is the same as before so ill keep that

[runic grotto]

Literally just this, I sent this 2 times already @winter oxide

that's the exact same build

[winter oxide]

why did you skip hubris?

[mighty root]

I debated it’s value but it’s literally free damage and cleave

[long oasis]

cleave still matters even with bm

[runic grotto]

Against the odds is awesome

But I wouldn't take it if cleave does literally nothing, usually you can get better damage somewhere else

[mighty root]

You can take it you can drop the 2 node’s going to Marty

[carmine lance]

I find it funny that people say knife is bad at horde clear, because the bleed crit build handles just fine

[long oasis]

@mighty root if I was starving to death would you let me eat your appendix

im hungry

[mighty root]

Try crit ij knife

[winter oxide]

alright tyty

[carmine lance]

I will try it out

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339337727541772289/1405142093722030192/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.gif

[carmine lance]

Dm a build because I WILL forget about it if it’s sent here lmao

[mighty root]

It’s just the build above but nab scourge and enduring Faith

Wait i actually made it lol

[carmine lance]

Perpetuating the stereotype of zealot mains having adhd fr

[winter oxide]

ill drop purge for good balance

[carmine lance]

Could you dm it to me real quick then

I will lose it in chat

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ffb2ede-d5d3-41dd-a292-4c72f98d8fd0/terrible-ij-crit-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Sent it here and in dm

The lawnmower knife

Ij knife before was my favorite build

[copper hawk]

Eugh ,,

Lookz at knife

[mighty root]

Fast

https://tenor.com/view/steam-happy-jerk-stroke-steam-happy-jerk-steam-happy-stroke-gif-11612131169571006425

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-girls-throwing-crumpled-paper-sleeping-girl-game-animation-gif-21512351

[winter oxide]

better now ig

[brisk raft]

Is it just me or is the weakspot cooldown more consistent than crit?

[obsidian prairie]

Whats more consistent

Headshots

[mighty root]

Weapon dependent

[obsidian prairie]

Or RNG

[long oasis]

if you dont have fury then yes, if you have fury and a crit weapon then no

[winter oxide]

how good is retributor's now? is that like 8% toughness per sec for 10s?

[copper hawk]

Sniffs

@mighty root

If ur gonna be pa'ing w knife

For psychotic attack speed

[long oasis]

if you already have ewew then I dont think its worth it

[mighty root]

If it has shred, riposte, or is knife/tac axe take cdr unless you’re doing ij

[runic grotto]

Honestly all 3 cdr talents are good

[mighty root]

See build before

[runic grotto]

So I just take whatever is closest to not waste talent points

[copper hawk]

I did

That's my edit

[long oasis]

the logic being that most things you take damage from are massive bursts i.e. mauler slams, plasma shots, etc. Having more toughness regen over time is not gonna help in those cases

[winter oxide]

right

[runic grotto]

It's not worth spending 2 or even 3 talent points just to get slightly different flavour of cdr

[copper hawk]

Alcohiiil..

[winter oxide]

ill get purge instead of retri then

or the 10% node

[long oasis]

how do you feel about this very exaggerated kettle helm from tower dungeon

[copper hawk]

All silly

Pauldrons included

[long oasis]

aw man

[copper hawk]

Helmet would be heavy as fuck

But as like

A unique char design ?

Sick af

[long oasis]

maybe its for falling debris like a flak helmet

[copper hawk]

U just need 2 cover ur head

Not everythin around it

That's what ur other armor would be fore

And if it hit the bill or side the helmet then ur neck would Hurt

Also it wouldn't deflect blows

Another massive keyfeature of helmets

it's why during the reign of the flat top kettle helm in the like

[long oasis]

what if it sloped down more as it went outwards

[mighty root]

@spare talon can i have your help with a build pls

[copper hawk]

10th - 11th century

they like

quickly replaced them w rounded tops

turns out if ur helmet is flatt or flat w a bill it has a knack for uh

[long oasis]

brain damag

[copper hawk]

not deflecting arrows or uh

axes and swords and rocks

[long oasis]

I think the artist was almost onto something with the designs

then I saw this

[copper hawk]

wish more pieces of media used this

fav helmet

[mighty root]

Coooooole

[copper hawk]

german kettle

swiss version had visors

so it's a kettle helmet w a visor

the overlaps in the back to reinforce the visor

it covers the face a lot as well so you wouldn't have to draw so much of the face

you'd just draw half or less depending on the angle

and it looks cool with the two angry eye slits

[copper hawk]

however from the front

SALLET

BOOOORING

this does look a lil silly

[long oasis]

damn ive never seen one from the front

this does not inspire fear in the enemy

[copper hawk]

or a visored kettle

wish more oriental helmets were used

like, steppe helmets

they varied quite a bit

[long oasis]

most people have only ever seen cuman helms

from kcd

[visual stream]

The best helmets are the ones that look cool

[void bison]

or silly

[visual stream]

[long oasis]

I dont get the spike

am I supposed to skewer them with it or something

[void bison]

so that if lightning strikes they are supercharged

[visual stream]

No more weapon
You sacrifice getting a concussion for still being able to hurt your opponent

[copper hawk]

guess where uh

these steppe tribes got these kinds of helmets

guess

just guess

[long oasis]

mongol

[visual stream]

Or whatever that condition that NFL players get is

[copper hawk]

close

[long oasis]

wher

[copper hawk]

china

before the yuan dynasty china used helmets like that

[long oasis]

damn they got set up

[copper hawk]

i think i've read that uh

they're used in a similar fashion as to like

the plumes on mediterannean helmets

[long oasis]

it was more lamellar was it not

[copper hawk]

namely romans

to identify rank, leadership position, formation, unit, etc

[long oasis]

I see pheasant tail plumes a lot

[copper hawk]

it's easy to see (the plume/horsehair) and is also intimidating when on horseback

here's a yuan helmet

[long oasis]

not sure if theyre accurate

[copper hawk]

or a yuan-era helmet

wish we had more like

[carmine lance]

@frosty crescent sorry for ping but meant to say earlier that I like your pfp, reminds me I need to finish peripeteia lol

[copper hawk]

mish-mash armor tbh

chinese of any era, mogonlian of any era, japanese of any era, european from any era or any region of Europe

[long oasis]

kievan rus is a pretty good mashup

[copper hawk]

want to see more chinese stuff in like

medieval fantasy settings period tbh

one of my dnd chars

a fighter rogue multiclass i had styled as a like

psuedo cuman-golden horde warrior

and i did that

she'd mix and match her armor off people they'd kill

she was a fun character ,,

[mighty root]

Wait a sec

[copper hawk]

i love horcs ,,

[mighty root]

@frosty crescent do I know you?

[mighty root]

Do you know yokosalt?

[carmine lance]

me when grand cathay exists

[frosty crescent]

?

[copper hawk]

ming dynasty era armor

[long oasis]

how usable would the polearm be with a shield though

[frosty crescent]

yeah

[copper hawk]

cool as fuck man

[mighty root]

Guh do you know nepu

[copper hawk]

you se the shield on the polearm

[long oasis]

there needs to be more bright colors in medieval/fantasy armor design

[copper hawk]

shields and spears were the shit for a looong time

[frosty crescent]

not from my knowledge

[copper hawk]

look at this shit man

[mighty root]

Damm I’m in a manga sever with yoko lol

[copper hawk]

Wen Chenhua is the artist who made this

he restores ancient chinese armor

as like

[long oasis]

very cool

[copper hawk]

his autistic fixation

[copper hawk]

makes sense

[long oasis]

what if they discover actual mountain scale

[copper hawk]

a lot of eras and in a lot of places peasants or their equivalent

[long oasis]

in the next decade

that would be pretty cool

[copper hawk]

weren't permitted to wear bright colors

like in Europe, namely in the HRE, there were laws in nations that forbade bright or flamboyant clothing

[long oasis]

mostly europe

[copper hawk]

the Landsknechte of the like

[mighty root]

Chinese history and it’s martial arts are cool

[copper hawk]

15th 16th centuries and the Swiss guard had specific legislation letting them wear shit like that

[frosty crescent]

i know them from uhm

[copper hawk]

idk about china

[frosty crescent]

church of senko

years ago

[copper hawk]

china is a nation built on institutions

institutions informed Chinese culture for the most part

[long oasis]

in china most troops would be levies would they not

[copper hawk]

and idk about any laws that dictate colorful clothing

[mighty root]

Owari da….

[long oasis]

depends on the era ig

[copper hawk]

and religion

[long oasis]

no yellow

[frosty crescent]

bad place

[copper hawk]

why no yellow ?

[long oasis]

emperor color

[copper hawk]

aaaah that makes sense

that's cool

were there any like

religiously significant colors?

[long oasis]

from the tang dynasty

onwards

[copper hawk]

a lot of chinese armor and weapons were named with religiously significant titles

[long oasis]

I dont tihnk any apply to armor and such

[copper hawk]

and in said campaign this was an issue

[mighty root]

I’ve always wanted to travel to dengfeng

I remember learning mandarin for it

[copper hawk]

certain colors were forbade, namely dark shades of red, were forbade in one of the nations a few sessions took place in

[long oasis]

Shi Hu's bodyguard was said to have worn "fine five-colored armour" (wuse xikai), which was so dazzling it blinded the eye. This was probably similar in construction to brilliant armour.[37]

[frosty crescent]

ah thank you

are you stuck on

[long oasis]

it definitely depended on social status

[hearty nebula]

i have

[copper hawk]

but i stylized my character with blue, red, and gold

[long oasis]

because dyes are expensive af

[frosty crescent]

the latest level?

[copper hawk]

so she got into a lot of issues

[hearty nebula]

discovered that double shotty is very good for getting stacks of marksman's focus

[copper hawk]

the party made her change clothes because of dark red being a forbidden color in this nation

[hearty nebula]

i will let u know how good this is

[copper hawk]

because of orcs and gruumsh

(she was a horc as well)

stole my steppe swag..

[long oasis]

why dark red though

[copper hawk]

dark red circle on a black field

[long oasis]

what does that have to do with orcs

[copper hawk]

orc symbol for gruumsh

[long oasis]

oh

[copper hawk]

dark red eye*

Gee I Wonder Where DnD Got That From

[long oasis]

it couldnt be right

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/my-precious-gollum-gif-7672261856660250667

[long oasis]

Its fine if they borrow one more thing

tolkien would allow it

[copper hawk]

on the topic of orcs and armor

[long oasis]

hideous helmet

like lannister armor from the tv show

[copper hawk]

always thought the aesthetic of practical improvised armor scavenged from other places was cool

[long oasis]

yea

[copper hawk]

literally a kettle cut in half width wise and riveted together length wise

[frosty crescent]

lamellar is cool to see

in any form

[copper hawk]

i think the hideous nature makes it look awesome

[copper hawk]

and true

double true

i looove lamellar..

[long oasis]

though honestly I wish more media would portray organized bandits

like bandit strongholds from classical wuxia

[frosty crescent]

need lamellar...

[frosty crescent]

more brigadine...

[copper hawk]

love scales and lamerllar..

[void bison]

I need to play more kcd2

got to kuttenberg and burnt out

[long oasis]

imagine the stink on those fingees

[copper hawk]

oh

like the japanese pirates?

that were often not japanese

[long oasis]

no

[copper hawk]

i forget the chinese word specifically for them

[long oasis]

I dont remember either

but in wuxia theres this concept of 72 bandit clans, called strongholds

[frosty crescent]

it almost reminds me of the centurion armor from fallout new vegas

[copper hawk]

ah

[long oasis]

and theyre so strong and organized they occupy significant territory in china

[swift hearth]

the wokuo?

literally just like bands of south asians/koreans/some japanese

[copper hawk]

yes!

the wokuo

[long oasis]

wokou

[copper hawk]

thank you

[swift hearth]

and some chinese

[copper hawk]

interesting

and makes sense

considering china's history with warlords

makes sense it'd inform popular culture

not a whole lot of difference between bandits and warlords

like Robber Barons in Europe

[long oasis]

china is a little larger than the modern us so its plausible to have disorder in various places

[copper hawk]

of for sure

considering how rich china was

and well armed it always was

forgein invasion, internal struggles, etc

census specifically in case of war

[long oasis]

have you seen those full jade burial suits

[copper hawk]

needed to know how many people could be armed

[long oasis]

they were rich af

[copper hawk]

no ??

that sounds fucking awesome

[long oasis]

all thats jade

[copper hawk]

holy shit

wonder how expensive that would be

[long oasis]

would be an awesome golem or something

[copper hawk]

oh for sure

[long oasis]

I think it mightve been cheaper back then

since jade was more common

might be wrong tho

[copper hawk]

a lot of shit was common in china

china got the like

well, specifically the Han chinese

got the like best spawn location for a culture ever

giant fuck off fertile river

right by another one

totally flat in the south and mostly flat in the north

[long oasis]

mountains and sea as a natural border too

[copper hawk]

arable land everywhere

natural borders in every direction

[long oasis]

no wonder they thought of themselves as the center of the world

[copper hawk]

ocean, jungle, desert, mountains

grew all kinds of shit

insane literacy among every body

rich with natural materials

made so much shit they ran out of people to sell to

[long oasis]

idk about literacy

[copper hawk]

compared to like

Europe

in Muslim countries a lot, compared to Europe, were literate, for example

like, among the the non-noble or clergy class

actually

[long oasis]

weird that two of the most complex writing systems have more literacy

[copper hawk]

i probably was told wrong

china seems to be like europe

in terms of literacy

[vague depot]

cica how do you use the mk3 heavy evis I been doing heavy light for horde and light heavy for st but it feels too slow

[copper hawk]

i knew in the Muslim countries a shit ton comparatively were at least able to read

[delicate shadow]

idk about Chinese literacy rates but islamic nations were well ahead of the curve for a very long time

[long oasis]

I think a lot of people could probably read, just not write i.e. not eligible for the imperial exams

[copper hawk]

not Persian, because that was a religiously significant language and the language of the gov't for a very long time, but other Arabic languages

[delicate shadow]

well I guess they weren't nations at the time but you get what I mean

[copper hawk]

makes sense

china is an absurdly complicated language

tonal language with no alphabet

i watched a docu recently on the history of the chinese typewriter

actually very fascinating

[long oasis]

thank god for pinyin

[copper hawk]

yarp

[long oasis]

now I dont have to learn how to write characters

[copper hawk]

uh

push attack, heavy, light light light then loop with heavy

if the light attack starts from the left the next heavy will be from the right

and wont be the strikedown one

that's one way to horde clear

heavies w the evis are weird where they're faster mid combo

[vague depot]

the heavy attack has a depressingly long windup though

the sweep one

oh I see

[long oasis]

you can push attack and then cycle back into the sweeping heavy

[copper hawk]

than if you were to stop and start the heavy again

yah the sweep one

if you run desperation, i recommend you do, and you run the push attack swing speed

you can just

push attack heavy endlessly

for ridiculous amounts of damage

[delicate shadow]

also iirc China was one of the first (actually the first iirc) empires/polities to start using crossbows

[copper hawk]

it gets stamina back very quick (zealot)

[median steeple]

push attack combos are pure slop I have spoken (I just wish a lot of the older weapons didn't use the same combos)

[copper hawk]

the first of many things

first with gun powder, first with paper money, first with government mandated censes, etc

brigandine armor, for example, was used in China like

[delicate shadow]

like Chinese engineering and innovation was goated and very ahead of the curve for a long ass time

[copper hawk]

200 years before it was used in Europe

[vague depot]

so pa (heavy light light) loop?

[delicate shadow]

also paper armour is super fucking cool

[copper hawk]

yah

[vague depot]

got it thanks

[copper hawk]

linothorax? i think? is what it's called

[obsidian prairie]

I love how discord can't embed literally anything

And if they do it doesn't work

[median steeple]

did it not embed or just not playing

[copper hawk]

oh my god

bro got evaporated

[obsidian prairie]

Nevermind it did load more than the first second it just took an entire 30 seconds

[median steeple]

discord is ass

[delicate shadow]

I forget what it's called ngl, ik Linothorax is the term for Greek linen armour but idk if it applies to Chinese paper armour too

[obsidian prairie]

Local squad lead acquires a new set of ear holes to the sound of the deltarune shop theme

[copper hawk]

so much iron that this was an INFANTRYMAN's armor kit

holy rich empire batman

all steel as well

[delicate shadow]

still got cleaned out by the mongols tho

[copper hawk]

china literally lost the world because of power creep..

i need to study the mongol invasions more

i know nothing about them

[delicate shadow]

(everyone got cleaned out by the mongols but we'll ignore that)

[copper hawk]

lmfao i had a russian friend in a past unit who went to a party at a pizza place

and we all got kinda wasted

him especially

and i made a joke about like

ur not russian bro u mongolian. ur entire country was ran by the mongols for hundreds of years

and he was both A surprised i knew that and B pissed off at me... not for like, calling him a Mongolian as a joke (he was a very proud-ish russian), but at the mongols

like

[delicate shadow]

Japan only surviving because horse archery can't be done at sea

[copper hawk]

angry at them

still

he told me the next day at formation when he sobered up

[median steeple]

https://youtu.be/ulaTvZ1gSL0?si=eUToAXxxaH1tkAgj

this was the song

omg my dsicrod

FUCK

[copper hawk]

noob lol

noobity noob noob..

[long oasis]

they literally got deus ex machina'd

[copper hawk]

mongols almost swept muslim middle east

almost wiped europe

[long oasis]

if it was fiction people would call it out for bad writing

[copper hawk]

they were such a fucking threat the viennans, the french, burgundians, and the germans all made a like

nervous alliance

[delicate shadow]

impervious nippon plot armour...

[copper hawk]

u know ur terrifying and rolling over europe when you make german nations unite against you

[copper hawk]

literally where the word kamikaze comes form

from*

divine wind

the gods farted on the mongols twice

[delicate shadow]

Turks sitting there watching the mongols roll over them like "oh so that's how this feels"

[copper hawk]

the fucking

turks

were saved by ALCOHOLISM !!!!!!

[long oasis]

maybe the shintoists were onto something

[copper hawk]

great pappy khan DIED so the alcoholic eldest son of the khan who was invading them had to PAUSE

and head back to the funeral

he DIED on the wya there FROM ALCOHOL POSIONING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the invasion never continued !!!!!!!

haram saved turkey breh

turkiye number 1 !!!

[delicate shadow]

common Allah W

[obsidian prairie]

This is going to be my favorite message on this platform for a while

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

https://tenor.com/view/bye-gif-25302709

they were getting their shit splattered too lost every battle and cities started giving up after they got the ol

if u dont surrender we kill LITERALLY all of you AND burn ur shit down

any that survive we throw like poxwalkers at the next city

[delicate shadow]

but yea the mongols stalling out is legit the only thing that really stopped them...many such cases

[copper hawk]

yah

they stopped carrying the glass pane of the mongol empire

and it fell and shattered into a million pieces

cultural exchange from China ig

sinicization complete. empire shatter into a million pieces

[long oasis]

western europe wouldve likely won against the mongols though

[delicate shadow]

gave the mamluk sultanate the space they needed to become a well oiled horde stomping machine

[long oasis]

too far and unfavorable terrain

[copper hawk]

i have the like

perfect meme for what happened to the khanate forces who got left behind in anatolia

but i cant post it here

[long oasis]

im not sure if theres any accounts of the mongols fighting in heavy forest but theyd be at a big disadvantage

[copper hawk]

they'lle convert you mongol meme

it's so funny how like

[delicate shadow]

they were kinda reaching their limit by the time they got to Hungary tbh, those invasions were very costly

[copper hawk]

horse nomads will invade some static state and then just

turn into that nation

[long oasis]

valid

[copper hawk]

cumans and kipchaks did

[long oasis]

normans did the same

[copper hawk]

their entire federation fell apart and the Hungarian kings gave them refuge

and then they just... became hungarian

only time this really didn't happen was with the Russians

who sorta became mongols

then the mongols left when their empire shattered and they just continued the tradition

[delicate shadow]

Turks also ended up kinda doing that where they just became persianate for a while

[copper hawk]

golden horde looked away and looked back and just saw new mongols speaking russian

[delicate shadow]

and then decided "we roman now"

[warped trellis]

yap yap yap…

these history nerdz…

[copper hawk]

LMFAO yeah

[obsidian prairie]

Darktide zealot chat is my favorite place to learn about Asian history

[copper hawk]

romans being hellenized so bad they became greeks

turks getting invaded by the hellenized romans

so they became.. greek

all is greek.

all hail greek.

we speak greek

we live in anatolia

we r roman.

wtf is a byzantium?

[delicate shadow]

Romans becoming greeks, Turks becoming Romans, Greeks becoming Turks (and vice versa)

it's a twisted ouroboros of Hellenization

[copper hawk]

flinging random missionaries into the hellish green doomscape that was post WRE europe

and getting random tributes back like a 100 years later