#zealot-class
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Me
beat gore magala without bottlenecking
What type of bug?
The grasshopper
That is a Katydid… (Bush Cricket)
same thing
Is that the dont starve spider animation
so ive never like marty but im going to try it out. to those that use it, do you go out of your way to go get hurt at the beginning of the match or do you just play normal
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Look at it like a safety net more than striving to go to low health
Does the cricket want my credit card?
Aggressive until low HP, then normally, then careful when Until Death is on cooldown
@spare talon how did you make crucis clear in havoc
I guess it depends on how much incoming damage is "normal" for you
dawg this fucking sucks
Why are you doing heavy light you goon
its safer than heavy heavy
nope
its safer to actualy cleave some enemies
look
u r noob + tourist
i usually take maybe 2-300 damage at most in auric maelstrom. i guess i would just play normal and ignore the healing stations
You should have also thrown more push attacks
My hair 😭
nice cut g
✂️
Why does this look like the meme from cod where it's ghost going "FOAP"
Am I crazy
all those who insult marty will be put in a labubu
why arent you running ewew and restorative verses
I assume Galeo use ignore option to hide all my message
When I ask him about vigil autogun
How long this grudge will go
Dwarf life span?
that with ewew puts your toughness regen into overdrive
what is "ewew"
enemies within enemies without
@heady rapids i can confirm that the mod loader was throttling my cpu
i still have ptsd from it being shit from before the patch
Describe it
i dont feel like i have toughness issues tbh
like maybe in very bad situations when my team is dying
but then i just have to play better
or swap to OP classes like arby
If you don’t take too much damage and use lesser toughness source regain you would be normally pump more damage
In assume
i eat ze bug
ok gore magala was a good warmup for omega planetes tomorrow
ngl shock maul feels amazing since the rework
the first monster in wilds to have a good theme
the final fantasy crossover
mid dau
lies
maybe if you've never played the older games, and know how watered down world/wilds music is
I make my own theme using hunting horn
it's different
yea I have no idea
Ive only played world, rise and wilds so idk what the old gens are like
Well heavy light is a niche combo i use for mixed hordes with the light targeting an elite as its the highest dmg single target unchanged attack it has
But you can be more aggressive with ewew cuz it covers any hit trading
Thammer has never been good at the actual killing part but the cleave node let's you control the whole group way better and weaken latter targets
With the attack speed I have with Marty and the control I have from the amount of enemies I hit per swing I typically stack a bit of thrust just cuz, and kill counter shows that I get 2-4 kills per swing
Like this is still its weakest part which is why I have the mk3 bolter cuz that decimates non-elites on command if I need them gone now
Finished deleting 1,500 plasma gunners. I can finally rest. 
Until the next update 
Back to thammer zealot my beloved ❤️🔥
🚬 is this a tldr for "its better than it was before but still bad"?
getting a group of 6 of the shitheads at the very start of the mission where they have the high ground fucking blows
lol yeah idk why they spawn in such numbers
Yes and also you could be doing it a little better
I already got like 500 myself
second parts a given my guy
meanwhile my Reapers is still at like 600
WE CAN ALL BE BETTER GREATER AND MORE FAITHFUL TO THE EMPEROR
Like i think ewew is the single best defensive change to the marty build
And skipping it is actual insanity
better than good balance?
What's your build look like
idk what did they do to auric but people are dying so fast
It got massive juice
every game so far has been a rotating door of like 10 people
specialist spam is much more intense
i can see what they're power creeping bro these players are BADDD
BAAAAD
anointed in blood is not optional because i run boltpistol and its ass without it!!!!!!
Send a picture gl doesnt load on my phone
pg's are single worst part of it rn
Oh nvm it did
what if i squeaked at u
like this
actually nvm
@hard nexus what if i squeaked at u like that
Aurics are now properly difficult
This is what I run on thammer
not how that works
ye i saw your build before ill try it
but im kinda happy with my build tbh
Ive tweaked it slightly over the few days after launch
and i checked the range on backstabber its pretty good
Well it did work that way
i like it tbh
Wilds runs fine now
enduring faith hammer?
Like dropping push atk speed for desperation and swapping stam regen curios for revive speed
is it to make up for the slow after special
Enduring faith is just to reach the node below
and you get a proc after fury?
i know someone said it before, but honestly for me, the plasma gunners kinda suck to fight right now. the more special spam is fun other than that
but you have the revive speed talent
And its the better of the options to path to it
Plus with fotf its nice to have some dr after the hit
But the main thing is the regen from elite kill
Which is boosted my marty tough replenishment
Cole how many havocs have you clutched with revive speed
A lot
i had it before
Yes and now i have 61%
i dont have trouble with toughness regen
if you get blasted by a plasma gunner you will lose it all anyways
so might as well have as much as possible
most of my until death procs are from getting backstabbed by a chaff enemy after a peegunner nukes my toughness
i dont think any of the talents aside from ewnw would help with that
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Getting hit by plasma is probs what it feels like to get hit by an ogryn rock
Revive speed clips
so revive someone in a bad spot so they die instead of doing a loop
got it 🫡
It affects nets ledges and rescues now
So you can pull off things in a clutch you previously couldnt
stealing my opinion smh
ehhhhhhhhhhh
Nets are basically instant
Like no animation plays
idk man i still dont see the point of rev perks
did regular auric get buffed? im getting my cheeks clapped
If I didnt have that speed, the arby in that clip wouldn't have been rez-able
flak enemies got buffed
yes
I wouldn't have a window long enough
i can safely say powercreep does not matter in pubs people are BAD
hp buffs to some enemies
With all the shit going on
specialist spam & horde size is up imo
what happened after
did the psyker live?
Spawn rates jacked up in auric with havoc horde pacing
yeah it feels crazy now
yea ok i wasn't imagining things ty
That was an arbites and yes they did
We all lived from that situation
its not helping that plasma gunners are something else
k
esp in the event missions, just an insane amount of sniper spawns
Casual vent purge event map
thats normal vent
Yeah
🤔 ill try the talents but idk about rev speed perks
the event unironically needs an organized squad
unholy amount of snipers and plasma gunners
all 1 shot you
I remember when one of the train missions would always get softlocked due to vent purge sniper spawns
That was ambient spawns rotten armor waves and twins and a captain and a chaos spawn who we'd killed by that point
You can get swamped by 12+ snipers
Revives are borderline cooked in that situation
im enjoying it very fun
Constant dodging and sliding to even survive
Yeah same
Revive speed legit goated in havoc idc what class you are
also my muscle memory still not letting me use unfaltering properly
Hamdol needs to remake his challenge
Find space for at least 2 on your curious, its additive iirc
Das what im sayin
With it being in good pathing for zealot you can stack up to 61%
Revives previously considered impossible are now doable
Zealot gets a bunch, ik NA Arbs get a 30% boost from the funny drone itself
Stack both and youre picking someone off the floor as fast as a net
Yeah, ive had the animation just break a few times cause its so fast
also am i high or does relic blade heat up way faster on marty
im probably just rusty as shit with heat management
but im overheating waaay more than i used to
Cuz you are
Each attack generates a small amount of heat depending on light or heavy
And youre swinging more on marty
doesn't revive speed also affect assist speed now? or am I miss remembering something someone said
It does
Rescues nets and ledges
lit
i dont even think that they are necessarily overtuned though yes they are. its the fact that they are silent, spawn in big groups, are basically invisible through a horde, and can shoot through that horde. the whole "tanky boi with good armor and can absolutely wreck you in 2 shots" is ok for an enemy. but right now they dont have a counter play. look at the sniper as an example. they are easily the most dangerous enemy but noone complains because they are super easy to counter
Tbf
You just named all the reasons why theyre overtuned
i would define tuning as like their damage and hp and stuff
You can dome them pretty easy with decent crit chance and a handcannon revolver
I do think they need to do much more friendly fire
Or make them have a clear view of you ti be able to shoot
Well snipers would be BS if it spawned 10 at a time in non modifier difficulties
Spawn rates and ease of avoidance matters too
kills the entire line of enemies between you and them
💀
like im honestly hoping them being completely silent is a bug
snipers do that
More? You mean any

Enemies deal miniscule amounts of friendly fire damage
Unless the code says otherwise
yeah fire grenades do set enemies on fire but with healthbar mod you see it doing like 12 damage a tick and it ticks slow as and it does scale up in damage like it does for us if we stand in it
but its after like 7 ticks
its barely anything lol
Im quoting a dev
Get 8 ball off my screen
omg cica
this fucking rocks
exhil sent it
@ripe quest u get no smooch cuz ur my NUMBER ONE ENEMIEZ
but awesome gif
do u have any more like this
do you mean plasmas dont deal FF damage or that enemies don't?
Plasma

the biggest problem with them is that they're so silent. They do sniper-tier damage but without a visual or audible indicator you're about to die.
It does have a little audible indicator, but since they spawn in groups as if they're shotgunners, they just spam like crazy
jsut did a HM twins
I mostly jsut did DS parry
wtf is this
1 shot maulers and ragers
yeah it's crazy
it was barely usable
Nope, caught lightning in a bottle w/ that one in a roblox twitter thread.
stagger bug
nah
this one is awesome
what if it was all a dream
ILL is a CIA pysop to trick people into thinking ILL is a game
people said the same thing about atomic heart
i didn't follow that game at all
their gun audio is also jacked, if multiple are trying to shoot you at once, the audio queue bugs out and most of them go silent
well it had a very cryptic development
and the major consensus was that there was no game at all
they couldn't prove nor deny it just like ILL methink
wait is ILL out?
i faintly recall something like that
also I remember seeing teasers for atomic heart a LONG while ago
it's the zombie medieval game
NOT THE FURSONA 
Cris Kyle killed a lot of civilians in Iraq
that's why he's a sheepdog
they tend to do that
LMAO
Can they just make plasma gunners flash like snipers before they shoot
i thought it was for emt's and such
not fucking snipers lmao
Its interresting that mundfish decided to make atomic heart 2 be a spiritual successor instead of a sequel
Oh yeah, new gripe, people who set off every barrel they see
An operative trained in stealth and assassination is more discernible in both audio and visual than the guy shooting you with an overloading gun made of neutron star
Even though it features the same protag as atomic heart and the twins
Sorry, the ten guys, not one
Itl probably be explained in dlc4
Just had a maelstrom where someone took out fucking 3 of us with a barrel
they don't need to explain why they're keeping the twins
Those barrels were more dangerous than the actual enemies, was like an actual minefield. Couldn’t do shit without a barrel going off beside me
Not trying to rant I’m just genuinely pissed about that
Welll
Zealot-bros, may I have an updated shroud boss bonk build?
1 of the twins is actualy the wife of the protag
The male twin?
Sending this to my friend
Are you on pc or console?
Guh
Are you taking about the twins in darktide or am I crazy
wilds is definetely the most beginner friendly
Pc
Atomic heart
Noted, thank you
I can't comment on pc optimzation, since I am console, but I heard it's still not the best but someone else can ratio me on that
wilds runs fine for me but it still has mostly negative for optimization i think
but they said they're doing a big performance patch in december
Damn
If savage protocol for omega planetes actualy has the hello world phase
We are so fucked
Maybe I wait for that
They use the savage omega theme in the savage protocol trailer
i just mostly enjoy playing a game thats currently alive and has an active playerbase w/ updates
something you cant really have with world and rise
I’m still skonged out of my gourd and probably will be for a while
We are having a massive update soon, so you might find out
Fair enough!
More like tomorrow
December will be gogmazios
literally everyone review bombed the game after akuma update tho cause it didnt automatically recache shaders lol
and everyone thought that it was over
Yeah
The funny thing is that wilds is pretty d**n good game
Actualy decent sleep weapons that arent nerscylla or artian
More beginner friendly and has added a good chunk of free content
sleep? in this economy?
Has the best story in the series (it's kinda mid, but way better than other imo)
we have a sleep gs user in our group and all he does is fuck stuff up
either fucks up the stagger, blue wound pop or mounts
its not a high bar but wins by comparison
I did make a fire artian hammer for gogmazios
rise was alright, world was unbearable
(Yes the dragon that lives in oil is weak to fire)
wilds was cool but everyone kinda wanted to kill the kid
That's what I mean. It's better than others in the series
wilds is pretty casual and fun but if you want the challenge you can always do 9* quests
I believe savage omega is gold crown sized
but the tradeoff is that there's almost no preparation aspect
I average 4 hours of sleep a night
(I have dogshit sleep habits)
I have a friend who loves customization, but doesn't like killing cute animals. She saw chatacabra and went "LOOK AT HIM NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD"
well you dont need to kill anyone tbh
You have to kill the first chatacabra
Someone already tested it
You can't capture it
So she refuses to play the game
She is super adorable about that to the point she doesn't kill molerats in fallout new vegas
This is gonna happen so much and it amuses me greatly :3
Also just in general, it’s awesome that so many games I’ve been looking forward to are coming out/have come out, but at the same time, can we like, kill indie game devs? I’m trying to make a dent in my backlog not add to it 😭
STOP MAKING GOOD GAMES FOR LIKE 1 MONTH, I BEG YOU
No

cant wait to play monster hunter in an hour and 10 minutes
Lmao
Yeah I like that gif a lot it's funny
This person also mandates that I wear pink in every game as well...
Lol, that’s sweet tho
She's awesome. hehehe in a game called remnant 2 we spent 30 minutes of our 2 hour playthrough following a spider bot
how the dueling sword rn
The parry just made it better devil claw
parry?
ever wanted to play dclaw but didnt like the weapon
didnt know the ds had a parry
it does now

They changed the special to a parry
Literally last week
Based, I’d honestly do the same
@frosty herald i legit cannot tell when this guy is ragebaiting
im getting destroyed by the new enemy
feels like a scab mauler but with guns
Then they’re a wet noodle
Some people are deada** saying that psyker bubble is meta to help with them
It is
ok so the trick is to get in clsoe and start chopping?
dont you love changing your entire build/playstyle to counteract an enemy
Chill. Don’t need to drop facts this late at night
I won’t complain if someone else runs it :)
bout to give it backshots
Gaze with ee
No, so I simply don’t :)
If I die, I die, so be it
whats the weapon combos for mk3 heavy evis
LMAO yeah.
My tryhard friend is saying it's not fun and she does like max havocs most of the time. She doesn't like him
It’s funny to me how underwhelming lower difficulties feel once you get used to auric maelstrom
ainz can you share a ds build with the new skill tree
I love my parries I love them so much
I have my Twins build
There was a point I thought damnation was scary lol
I wish the sfx was more satisfying
wtf
I'll take it
when the
where did the stam bar go?
Just do ij with crit
The darksouls gwyn experience
theres a fix for that numeric ui bug btw
oo
had it on that time cause I was testing things for the guide
im not good enough to make knife work in havoc
I'm thinking of doing parry only HM twins
its possible
only thing that will be difficult is hitting rodin
I'll need something to attack me so I can redirect to rodin
not consistant enough to damage him
flak cara precog riposte on ds right
Filtered by not having adhd 
I lurk everyone from everywhere
the micro celebrity
How are you feeling about the update?
the vet global damage increase is insane with skrimisher and exploit
how difficult are the new modifiers?
stimms and rotten armour
what build were u using 4 rhis
Nearly doubling scab hp pools is very funny though
difficult becuase rotten often causes mission aborted crashes
falchion mid
Vet dr is insane
The funny poke sword go brr
I prefer Psword special
not really
so no crash = easy?
They get iron will sure, but after toughness damage they got nothing
Compared to what he had BEFORE the update I mean. I mean compared to other yeah it's not that much
Falchion has a fun moveset at least, powersword feels better mechanically though
But they feels much more durable compared to before update
thnx
Stimms varies from neat to im going to kill myself
Rotten armor is just perpetually I want to kill myself
yes and no
the only change i felt to vet's survivability is the addition of plasma gunners
hmm
A blue stimmed rager in tox gas is literally undamageable
Where's my video of that one dreg stalker
What if a million armor surrounds a healing boss and they all stim
glip .....
who up stimming rn
Fun times
😭
I love their animation so much
Coughing reject vs hydrogen rager
Everyone in the call was wilding over watching a bulwark hitting the stim the first time
Can I just cheese a 40 with shroud
ok im good at running
so blue is just more stagger + damage reduction
Frick my chud life
Baross is a more fun speedrun bc your team doesn't know they're fucked until after the first event

we've reduced the amount of crushers, anyway here's a modifier with 500 per wave
Stimmed and in gas
Autism has invaded hav 40
I think the solution is to have a boss nuke zealot or just leave the game at that point
modifier looks fun shame havoc is still locked behind a dogshit system
True
The climb was more miserable than ever
Ainz are you playing tonight?
I love deranking to 22 because I wanted to try a hard map without meta builds
i cant wait to climb back up with these 2 new mods
I saw gale only got to 33
plus the mission aborts are insane
Guh
I’m wondering if it’s worth
do i just not host if i have rotten armour
had one abort before we left the loadout screen
I’ll attempt it
I think I got a havoc win with devil's claw this patch against armor healing then uninstalled
I have a 30
80% of my options were purple armor silo cluster
Silo cluster with a forced all scab seed is just actually aids
Yeah that sounds like ass
Cuz shitting out plasma covered by walls of armor on the stairs and hallways with no cover
Those stairs are so fun in gunner seeds
what you don't like enemies with 8x health? what the heck
How does Arby fair?
Poorly
Plasma inflicts a 0.25x toughness replenishment multi
Christ
You know it’s bad when Arby suffers
They do get a leg up with having a dog but they get their insane toughness gen gutted and are super vulnerable after 1 hit
Which is why you see so many pubs in auric hard crutching on arby getting their ass handed to them
No i mean the additive dr making them have 100% dr
Ive been using thammer a lot in havoc so to me blue rager just meant 2x full thrusts
then purple....
20x hitmass too iirc
Thammer kinda fucks into purple
An enemy that gets one shot cant be healed
purple stim is probably hardest
And with how much mobile you are now with thammer you can glide to one shot the purple guys when you can
If its rotten armor I think thammer is probably gonna be my go to
Are the loadouts really buggy for anyone else
your game has chronic loadout deficiency syndrome, 1 in 5 players.
I've been playing with a vet build I made for two days and after I swapped off and back, it reset that loadout to what it was before the update in some ways and fucked the tree
Thammer new meta….
Was that loadout created prior to the update?
So it kept the weapons the same as what I set them to post-patch, but changed the cosmetics back to pre-update and for some reason the tree had 10 points undone?
Some loadouts get borked when kept after an update. Also updating a loadout is dumb sometimes you need to swap between loadouts to finalize changes
@spare talon how is mixed clear and trash clear with thammer in 40?
The last one has been an issue for a while now IIRC
rotten armor in current havoc is def a choice
mmmm yes we increased hp pools of crushers and lowered spawns
also >rotten armor haha
Its okay
if the armor is rotten why is their armor not changed to infested
With the mobility you can definitely do a charged hit for elites then heavy spam the trash
Its just civi+pus hardened
Infested should cover the lack of dreg enemies we have
i wouldnt mind both
pox crusher pox mauler
and death guard
i want way more dregs and way less scabs
its still not happening
but maybe because im getting unlucky seeds
Rending trauma here I come
It does kinda reek of an unfinished enemy category. Prob something related to the intended enemy designs that never got finished in time.
Enjoy your bugged 50% ranged dr on the armor
what even is infested, the walkes aaannddd dog?
huge
I easily out dps both trauma and purg psykers in rotten armor using thammer, with and without purple cuz of it
maybe if admonition does something big they can justify adding more shit
It really really hurts their output
and then add higher tiers of characters as dlc
also fellas out of the 3 cdr abilities which one is da best
then we can finally get the space marine class dlc
$29.99
This is gonna be a hot take
But I think martyrs purpose is generally the best if you can grab all and use them effecticely
interesting
late but yes
Pct is the most generally applicable but you really feel the extra uptime of MP when you arent swinging
Rotten Armor compounds the crusher hp problem by like sixfold in H30+
And its a 5s difference at max uptime for both
It's absurd in H40
ok ill swap out backstap for marty
I got about 3/4 of the way through a H40 Gloriana last night and then we got cornered by multiple mauler and crusher waves before the finale
and we just couldn't kill our way out of them thanks to purple + rotten armor
See how you like it
I think its a must pick for marty even with crit weapons
without the old invoc of death im really feeling the cdr nerf. i like it because the game is way less ult spam and win BUT im not getting enough cooldown on fotf and in my opinion fotf is a spam ult by design
i wanna be spamming it
it is a very strange time when people actually bring Smite to cheese the Crusher waves
You really gotta gauge your options between the
Other two tho
When not playing marty
Will you crit enough or not
if im not playing marty i might just do invoc cause backstab is either not working for me OR im not adjusted to new cdr
i def have to postion way better since i cant just fotf every 5 seconds to a horde lmao
Cole you got any updated builds
with old invoc my zealot gameplay was just fotf simulator
doesnt matter if im postioned poorly or not
Build deez nuts
cause i will fotf
You can spam it at almost the same rate it's just not given by default.
actually
i should take the new node
surely its meant to be played with new node
i was like nah i dont need it im a big boy
Im still making em as I try new things but the main one I've played that I got back to 40 with was marty thammer
its 5 seconds off
I mean 6
freedom of choice
havent seen a single build utlizing the two healing nodes above marty i wish they were better
If you don't have Uncanny Strike, you're better off using the other options.
Knife is still good without it, but not AS good
Its always been good
Pathing before was just bad
Meanwhile, the others are there and honestly are fine depending on what you need/want.
if you have fotf without the node and iod on for the entire cd it will be 15 seconds. If you have fotf and iod as well as the new node it will be a total 24 seconds after kill, and then 12 seconds to get a charge
Oh ok
FIre nade is good
Perhaps even great
and always was
I ran it even before the rework hehe
Crusis with flak unyielding and slaughterer thrust right
Clearing chaff is super useful right now because you need to take even more time to kill elites
I used headtaker
Stun nades are also stun nades, and honestly some of the best utility nades in the game
so there is a 3 second difference overall, I don't think its really worth the point to take
thrust and shock and awe
And carapace unyielding
Crusher hp buff
give zealot nade regen haha imagine....
cant stack strength like that
Bait used to be believable
1 nade every 2 minute haha....
This is incorrect
People ran The Build pre-patch and that had you run throwing knives for points.
Ah ok
knife is still better as easy special clear
Shock and awe is in the running for one of the worst talents in the game
since when could strength stack?
always
always lol
What about the gun
i still go back to knives cause i run out of nades and have no regen 
Since addition was invented
i thought you could only use one, plus thrust already 1 shots
you could run flammenwerfer
Iirc thammer horde clear was a bit mediocre so I ran flamer but now that I have no tknife I can’t special snipe so I was thinking about dusting off the revolver
Who wants to bother looking through boxes? Not me
Headtaker is for general use outside of that, and reliably works for thrusts too
Crushers got a massive hp bump, and all enemies do too in havoc
so thrust slaughter is the correct blessings for hammer?
Flamer is you want better horde clear, or bolter/boltpistol/las pistol/BIG IRON if you want to snipe specials
just kill stuff and you get them back
thrust headtaker/slaughterer
Big iron it is
more like people beat me to it 
Flak carapace surgical hand cannon?
thanks
Slaughterer works but I think headtaker is better cuz it doesnt need kills
It does come down to personal preference tho
As I’m not as versed on the zealot tree, which talent would that be? Because I sure didn’t take it
awful proc condition for 15% more
oh I thought you were talking about knives nvm, you can get knives by killing elites
Double Barrel if you want to mow down lines of ragers or kill Trappers hiding inside of big blobs of poxwalkers
🙂
Nah that’s why I use knives
I use the new bolter with thammer cuz it kinda is silly when it comes to density, especially hordes that thammer can control well but not kill fast
Where's that one high havoc clip of the bolter
what are the blessings for new bolter
Maybe it's time to go back to the fire shotgun
puncture pinning fire?
I use fire frenzy pinning fire
been really enjoying it in the event
i see the plasma gunner pack and go yeeehawwww
Fire frenzy is 50% dmg on 5 direct hit kills
And pinning fire is strength so its multiplicitive
And both buff the aoe
Resulting in
The new boltgun is mk3b right
woaw
The one thats shit brown
No I’m blind
magdumping hordes is viable now
2b
Thats the new one
Alri go t
I wish we had a flamer mark that focused more on short big bursts of flame
just make two bolters and give them two skins
that's not very flame thrower like
sounds like u want a melta
oh u said it lol
For the last year I have been incapable of knowing mark names for the first month of release because I have months of calling then p4m2 or some shit (thats the mk7 exe shotgun)
Depends on how the Melta is depicted too lol. It depends on the 40k game
The worst thing they ever did to this game was add plasma gunners in the state that they're in right now
I gave up on memorizing the new mk names to be honest
Only the vet should get that most likely
idk it's a tossup between plasma gunners and crushers
Fire frenzy pinning fire and flak unyielding?
they changed the mark names and I never recovered mentally
Plasma Gunners are bad for everyone across all play modes
I still call the fire shotgun kantrael
I do flak unarmored for faction enemies since im mostly using it to espode density
Crushers and Rotten Armor are hell for H30+
if darktide does it i want it a narrow medium range MUCHO DAMAG single target focused gun with great cleave
Havoc rn is just normal but with more enemies and more modifiers right
What i hit 40 with so yea
just a laser beam of death
Alright
Think I've had more games end to rotten armor elites than anything after the patch
Anything that works in havoc works below
That's how it is in the original Space Marine, right?
Right I got too used to needing builds specifically for havoc
how is it gonna be single target with cleave
Shit like the chorus corruption cleanse zealot everyone was running
no in both space marine games it plays the super shotgun role
Ahh right
horde clear shotgun with wide range
Juts give plasma gunners more intuitive audio and visual cues that the shot is going off
That's all they have to do
Which now you can take without gimping yourself too
Yes, but you also have Emperor's Fading Light
They can stay just as deadly and be fine
Inshallah
which removes the invuln gate on toughness break
The question is why everyone wants to try to play shroudfield now
Dawn of War 2 had the best Melta Gun depiction I've seen in a video game
cause it has insane dmg
Cuz it got a lot of changes
because they buffed tf out of backstabs
it's the hardest thing to get used to in Havoc tbh when you're starting out
real?!
Clearly I have lacked on my reading
Havoc also makes enemies deal corruption on melee hit
you can get 75% backstab damage every 8 seconds
Anyway
Fuck plasma
so even a few poxwalker scratches can add some corruption
alongside shroudfield bonuses its an insane amount of fuck you damage
So which is stronger? Thammer fury or shroud any melee?
and getting overheaded by a mauler/crusher will outright oneshot the squishy classes. No going down or anything, you just perish
thammer shroud
but thammer fury still better for bosses probably
Gaddam I was hoping someone would say this lol
You cant get me to run shroud thammer
Im not fucking doing it
Shroudfield got huge damage and usability buffs. Praying Infil gets something similar in the end-of-year patch...
That's what you get for leaving the safety bubble
That’s interesting
Shroud Thammer is more damage in a single hit.
For more sustained use during the entire mission, though, Fury Thammer is probably better.
but they're made for each other
like bread and butter
like milk and sugar
That’s basically my zealot staple
Tbh guys I have a hard time not playing martyrdom anyway
When I think of a stealth assassin I immediately think of a two-handed hammer that produces thunder and lightning
This thammer build
Maybe we'll get the flayer dual swords in the Shroudfield icon
haha its over the top just like 40k! get it 40k is over the top my hekkin battle brother! its so wacky!!
(Give dual tac axes too, please!)
“You said it’s the melee class”
they dont give the real assassin tools to poor people (us)
Shroudfield is honestly not bad, but depending on enemy density and where the fight happens, it can also be insanely useless.
Being Stealthed while body blocked by large burly men might be nice most of the time, it's not when you're the one trying to get them from behind.
That Shroudfield icon is 1:1 one of the Inquisition minis they released a couple years ago, too
M1 and m2 swing each weapon respectively for maximum carpal tunnel syndrome
I also move that Shroud+Martyrdom+Thammer should be abbreviated as "Sharthammer"
We Slayer mode now
No blocking
Only swinging
There should be a stiletto in game
What is swinging but blocking them from ever hitting you in the first place?
a knife?
That's basically Scriers Sword for Psyker. It's more aggro than Zealot right now.
No lien a damn near all strike are direct trusts and less swipes than combat knife
how about you give me a spear first
He yells "WAIT YOURE A SP-" and the video cuts mid backstab
force spear, power glaive
If it's just used like a damage ult it pulls some crazy numbers. Doesn't even need to utilize backstabs to hit harder than FotF, and you can get the cooldown to be faster too.
CLASSIC
i only use shroudfield as a dmg ult yeah
pop it then pop a mf with your weapon of choice
boom
That's fair. Just feels odd not to use stealth to reposition to suddenly shift the offense.
I use it for damage and for ez revives
One shotting daemonhosts is a source of free dopamine
Often you can't reposition for backstab just because you're body blocked
think of it as u going to stealth to target their weakspot and deal a major blow 
literally just a classic rogue archtype ult
Idk shroud just sounds like more relaxed fury
I refuse to use shroud cuz it doesnt have a massive atk speed buff
You know what that's really fair
fotf gives 20%
fotf spam is just constant attack speed
They stack
Two charges. All she wrote
frenzy + punish impropriety + martyrdom is already 50%
your greed sickens me
70% is too mich for mortals
I'm really glad fotf and shroud seem well balanced between each other now so it comes up to personal preference, this rework was really good
Your loss
No bleed no greed
If I wanna meme I’ll play oggy

hi epic cole
Ty epic coal
better this than when shroudfield was literally trolling
He axe dork I wanted to ask what’s your taxe specs on zealot?
book is a better sleep aid than melatonin
hello playtesters please rework book into a banner you deploy and it gives buffs but u also can still move and do shit
crazy
One sec
spac marine 2
yes....
what
arbites players would complain
make nancy move too
Thanks that’s what I’m talking about
istg it moves
Why unarmored perk though?
Scab bruiser
Mitosis
Ah ok perfect sense. Yea fuck those guys
Nothing ever happens
Also it’s called a chorus, why do we need to hold something out during it, the zealot should have the song memorized
What if Chorus didn't give gold toughness, but it set everything within it on fire and stunned while healing the teams toughness (only to 100%).
REAL just have our character belt out some fire verses
can you give me fire grease as a talent
they're turning it from ccp surveillance to cia surveillance dw, nothing ever happens
Zealot spitting literal fire bars 
Extremely accurate
Four fucking pixels
what is this supposed to mean
what does this mean why is there a lobter
They don’t know
096 has a bubble shield
They aren’t knowers
Know deez nuts
Check your mouth 
Can't, my friend is blocking it with his buttcheeks
with dueling sword should i use mostly heavy attack?
Yeah and light for hordes
Tbh
Ds sucks
Light for trash mobs, heavy for anything bigger.
Try tac axe
i think you would like the pm9 evil gun
tac axe sucks, just punch them
those who show
@long oasis are you a great immortal cultivator?
I hate that I kind of know what this is talking about because of those shitty YouTube ads
those who snow
I'm a 40 year old man that still thinks jeans and leather jackets are cool.
I have no idea what any of this is.
no I am budai




