#zealot-class

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misty ravine
sullen forge
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Me

frosty herald
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beat gore magala without bottlenecking

oak ice
sullen forge
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Katydid

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I’ve hired this bug to stare at you

frosty herald
sullen forge
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That is a Katydid… (Bush Cricket)

median steeple
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same thing

frosty herald
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Is that the dont starve spider animation

woeful socket
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so ive never like marty but im going to try it out. to those that use it, do you go out of your way to go get hurt at the beginning of the match or do you just play normal

frosty herald
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Look at it like a safety net more than striving to go to low health

sullen forge
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Aka bad keystone that encourages bad behavior

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NEXT!!!

oak ice
misty ravine
stone fern
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@spare talon how did you make crucis clear in havoc

misty ravine
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I guess it depends on how much incoming damage is "normal" for you

stone fern
obsidian prairie
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Why are you doing heavy light you goon

copper hawk
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marty ?

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cringe !

stone fern
frosty herald
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its safer to actualy cleave some enemies

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look

stone fern
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u r noob + tourist

frosty herald
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you are stopping dead in your tracks at the first scab enemy

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show the build

woeful socket
flat marsh
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You should have also thrown more push attacks

wicked slate
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My hair 😭

long oasis
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nice cut g

lunar fable
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trollchad ✂️

oak ice
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Am I crazy

stone fern
stone fern
frosty herald
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why arent you running ewew and restorative verses

stone fern
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wat

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dawg i dont know half the names of the talents

bitter anvil
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I assume Galeo use ignore option to hide all my message

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When I ask him about vigil autogun

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How long this grudge will go

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Dwarf life span?

stone fern
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oh the bottom marty upgrade?

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i dont need it tbh

frosty herald
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that with ewew puts your toughness regen into overdrive

stone fern
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what is "ewew"

frosty herald
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enemies within enemies without

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@heady rapids i can confirm that the mod loader was throttling my cpu

stone fern
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i still have ptsd from it being shit from before the patch

bitter anvil
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Describe it

stone fern
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i dont feel like i have toughness issues tbh

bitter anvil
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Then you’re pro

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Better player

stone fern
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like maybe in very bad situations when my team is dying

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but then i just have to play better

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or swap to OP classes like arby

bitter anvil
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If you don’t take too much damage and use lesser toughness source regain you would be normally pump more damage

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In assume

solar gorge
frosty herald
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ok gore magala was a good warmup for omega planetes tomorrow

hollow dove
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ngl shock maul feels amazing since the rework

tame sluice
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the final fantasy crossover

frosty herald
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rey dau guardian arkveld the iceshards cliff theme

tame sluice
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mid dau

tame sluice
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maybe if you've never played the older games, and know how watered down world/wilds music is

long oasis
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I make my own theme using hunting horn

tame sluice
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it's different

long oasis
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yea I have no idea

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Ive only played world, rise and wilds so idk what the old gens are like

carmine falcon
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ok darktide with bad internet is peak
no dodges count

spare talon
# stone fern dawg this fucking sucks

Well heavy light is a niche combo i use for mixed hordes with the light targeting an elite as its the highest dmg single target unchanged attack it has
But you can be more aggressive with ewew cuz it covers any hit trading
Thammer has never been good at the actual killing part but the cleave node let's you control the whole group way better and weaken latter targets
With the attack speed I have with Marty and the control I have from the amount of enemies I hit per swing I typically stack a bit of thrust just cuz, and kill counter shows that I get 2-4 kills per swing
Like this is still its weakest part which is why I have the mk3 bolter cuz that decimates non-elites on command if I need them gone now

winter steppe
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Finished deleting 1,500 plasma gunners. I can finally rest. Sitgryn

Until the next update KEKW_ogryn

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Back to thammer zealot my beloved ❤️‍🔥

plush estuary
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@copper hawk

hearty nebula
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alright yeah

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plasma gunners kind of toxic

stone fern
hearty nebula
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getting a group of 6 of the shitheads at the very start of the mission where they have the high ground fucking blows

faint vapor
spare talon
faint vapor
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I already got like 500 myself

stone fern
faint vapor
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meanwhile my Reapers is still at like 600

stone fern
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WE CAN ALL BE BETTER GREATER AND MORE FAITHFUL TO THE EMPEROR

spare talon
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Like i think ewew is the single best defensive change to the marty build

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And skipping it is actual insanity

stone fern
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better than good balance?

spare talon
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What's your build look like

carmine falcon
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idk what did they do to auric but people are dying so fast

spare talon
carmine falcon
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every game so far has been a rotating door of like 10 people

stone fern
hearty nebula
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specialist spam is much more intense

carmine falcon
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BAAAAD

hearty nebula
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and also plasmagunners

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lol

stone fern
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anointed in blood is not optional because i run boltpistol and its ass without it!!!!!!

spare talon
hearty nebula
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pg's are single worst part of it rn

spare talon
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Oh nvm it did

copper hawk
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like this

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actually nvm

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@hard nexus what if i squeaked at u like that

frosty herald
spare talon
stone fern
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but im kinda happy with my build tbh

spare talon
stone fern
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and i checked the range on backstabber its pretty good

frosty herald
stone fern
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i like it tbh

frosty herald
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Wilds runs fine now

plush estuary
spare talon
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Like dropping push atk speed for desperation and swapping stam regen curios for revive speed

plush estuary
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is it to make up for the slow after special

spare talon
plush estuary
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and you get a proc after fury?

woeful socket
stone fern
plush estuary
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hmmm

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I see

spare talon
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And its the better of the options to path to it

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Plus with fotf its nice to have some dr after the hit

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But the main thing is the regen from elite kill

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Which is boosted my marty tough replenishment

frosty herald
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Cole how many havocs have you clutched with revive speed

stone fern
spare talon
stone fern
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i dont have trouble with toughness regen

long oasis
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if you get blasted by a plasma gunner you will lose it all anyways

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so might as well have as much as possible

stone fern
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most of my until death procs are from getting backstabbed by a chaff enemy after a peegunner nukes my toughness

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i dont think any of the talents aside from ewnw would help with that

plush estuary
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frosty herald
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Getting hit by plasma is probs what it feels like to get hit by an ogryn rock

spare talon
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Revive speed clips

stone fern
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got it 🫡

spare talon
spare talon
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Nets are basically instant
Like no animation plays

stone fern
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idk man i still dont see the point of rev perks

vestal gazelle
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did regular auric get buffed? im getting my cheeks clapped

spare talon
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If I didnt have that speed, the arby in that clip wouldn't have been rez-able

stone fern
spare talon
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I wouldn't have a window long enough

carmine falcon
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i can safely say powercreep does not matter in pubs people are BAD

long oasis
spare talon
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With all the shit going on

hearty nebula
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specialist spam & horde size is up imo

stone fern
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did the psyker live?

hearty nebula
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and pg gunners being a tad overtuned

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but other than pg's i think its fun

spare talon
formal umbra
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yeah it feels crazy now

vestal gazelle
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yea ok i wasn't imagining things ty

spare talon
carmine falcon
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its not helping that plasma gunners are something else kek_k1 k

formal umbra
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esp in the event missions, just an insane amount of sniper spawns

frosty herald
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Casual vent purge event map

long oasis
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thats normal vent

formal umbra
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Yeah

stone fern
carmine falcon
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the event unironically needs an organized squad
unholy amount of snipers and plasma gunners
all 1 shot you

long oasis
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I remember when one of the train missions would always get softlocked due to vent purge sniper spawns

spare talon
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That was ambient spawns rotten armor waves and twins and a captain and a chaos spawn who we'd killed by that point

frosty herald
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You can get swamped by 12+ snipers

spare talon
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Revives are borderline cooked in that situation

carmine falcon
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im enjoying it very fun

frosty herald
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Constant dodging and sliding to even survive

carmine falcon
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new auric

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it got hands

formal umbra
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Yeah same

deft badge
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Revive speed legit goated in havoc idc what class you are

carmine falcon
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also my muscle memory still not letting me use unfaltering properly

frosty herald
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Hamdol needs to remake his challengeKEKW_ogryn

deft badge
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Find space for at least 2 on your curious, its additive iirc

spare talon
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With it being in good pathing for zealot you can stack up to 61%

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Revives previously considered impossible are now doable

deft badge
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Zealot gets a bunch, ik NA Arbs get a 30% boost from the funny drone itself

spare talon
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Stack both and youre picking someone off the floor as fast as a net

deft badge
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Yeah, ive had the animation just break a few times cause its so fast

carmine falcon
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also am i high or does relic blade heat up way faster on marty

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im probably just rusty as shit with heat management

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but im overheating waaay more than i used to

spare talon
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Each attack generates a small amount of heat depending on light or heavy

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And youre swinging more on marty

carmine falcon
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true

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makes sense

modern carbon
spare talon
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Rescues nets and ledges

modern carbon
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lit

woeful socket
# hearty nebula and pg gunners being a tad overtuned

i dont even think that they are necessarily overtuned though yes they are. its the fact that they are silent, spawn in big groups, are basically invisible through a horde, and can shoot through that horde. the whole "tanky boi with good armor and can absolutely wreck you in 2 shots" is ok for an enemy. but right now they dont have a counter play. look at the sniper as an example. they are easily the most dangerous enemy but noone complains because they are super easy to counter

north sedge
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their fire rate is crazy

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too

spare talon
woeful socket
obsidian prairie
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You can dome them pretty easy with decent crit chance and a handcannon revolver

frosty herald
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I do think they need to do much more friendly fire

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Or make them have a clear view of you ti be able to shoot

spare talon
modern carbon
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💀

woeful socket
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like im honestly hoping them being completely silent is a bug

woeful socket
spare talon
modern carbon
frosty herald
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Unless the code says otherwise

modern carbon
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yeah fire grenades do set enemies on fire but with healthbar mod you see it doing like 12 damage a tick and it ticks slow as and it does scale up in damage like it does for us if we stand in it

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but its after like 7 ticks

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its barely anything lol

spare talon
copper hawk
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oh my god ainz

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i could smooch you for this gif

plush estuary
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omg cica

copper hawk
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this fucking rocks

plush estuary
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exhil sent it

copper hawk
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@ripe quest u get no smooch cuz ur my NUMBER ONE ENEMIEZ

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but awesome gif

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do u have any more like this

modern carbon
modern carbon
modern carbon
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rushed enemy challenge

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succeeded

hollow dove
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It does have a little audible indicator, but since they spawn in groups as if they're shotgunners, they just spam like crazy

heady rapids
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25 sun is back.......

plush estuary
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jsut did a HM twins

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I mostly jsut did DS parry

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wtf is this

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1 shot maulers and ragers

solar gorge
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yeah it's crazy

hollow dove
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It's okay

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DS needed a buff

solar gorge
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ds needed that badly

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yes

hollow dove
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It way way too weak

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exactly

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😂

solar gorge
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it was barely usable

ripe quest
hollow dove
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DS light attacks now also stagger

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it really needed it

plush estuary
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stagger bug

hollow dove
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it still had one weakness

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now it has none

solar gorge
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i can't pull something better than this

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i give up

solar gorge
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nah

formal umbra
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what if it was all a dream

solar gorge
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ILL is a CIA pysop to trick people into thinking ILL is a game

heady rapids
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people said the same thing about atomic heart

solar gorge
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i didn't follow that game at all

woeful socket
heady rapids
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well it had a very cryptic development

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and the major consensus was that there was no game at all

solar gorge
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they couldn't prove nor deny it just like ILL methink

carmine lance
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wait is ILL out?

solar gorge
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no

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there was a trailer a few months back

heady rapids
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you know what else is never coming out

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blight survival

solar gorge
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i faintly recall something like that

carmine lance
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also I remember seeing teasers for atomic heart a LONG while ago

solar gorge
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it's the zombie medieval game

copper hawk
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facebook dog moms crossing over with furries

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WHY MOMMY CARRIES A GUN

solar gorge
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Cris Kyle killed a lot of civilians in Iraq

copper hawk
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that's why he's a sheepdog

solar gorge
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they tend to do that

carmine lance
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LMAO

visual stream
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Can they just make plasma gunners flash like snipers before they shoot

solar gorge
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i thought it was for emt's and such

solar gorge
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not fucking snipers lmao

frosty herald
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Its interresting that mundfish decided to make atomic heart 2 be a spiritual successor instead of a sequel

carmine lance
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Oh yeah, new gripe, people who set off every barrel they see

visual stream
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An operative trained in stealth and assassination is more discernible in both audio and visual than the guy shooting you with an overloading gun made of neutron star

frosty herald
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Even though it features the same protag as atomic heart and the twins

visual stream
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Sorry, the ten guys, not one

frosty herald
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Itl probably be explained in dlc4

carmine lance
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Just had a maelstrom where someone took out fucking 3 of us with a barrel

solar gorge
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they don't need to explain why they're keeping the twins

carmine lance
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Those barrels were more dangerous than the actual enemies, was like an actual minefield. Couldn’t do shit without a barrel going off beside me

carmine lance
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Not trying to rant I’m just genuinely pissed about that

winter steppe
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Zealot-bros, may I have an updated shroud boss bonk build?

frosty herald
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1 of the twins is actualy the wife of the protag

heady rapids
oak ice
oak ice
carmine lance
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I should probably play monster hunter at some point

oak ice
frosty herald
oak ice
heady rapids
carmine lance
frosty herald
carmine lance
oak ice
# carmine lance Pc

I can't comment on pc optimzation, since I am console, but I heard it's still not the best but someone else can ratio me on that

oak ice
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Sorry I thought it was darktide my b

heady rapids
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wilds runs fine for me but it still has mostly negative for optimization i think

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but they said they're doing a big performance patch in december

carmine lance
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Damn

frosty herald
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If savage protocol for omega planetes actualy has the hello world phase

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We are so fucked

carmine lance
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Maybe I wait for that

heady rapids
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depends

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whats you specs

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r

frosty herald
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They use the savage omega theme in the savage protocol trailer

heady rapids
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i just mostly enjoy playing a game thats currently alive and has an active playerbase w/ updates

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something you cant really have with world and rise

carmine lance
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I’m still skonged out of my gourd and probably will be for a while

oak ice
carmine lance
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Fair enough!

heady rapids
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tu3 isnt performance focused

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iirc

frosty herald
heady rapids
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tomorrow (in an hour)

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it drops in like hour 20

frosty herald
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December will be gogmazios

heady rapids
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literally everyone review bombed the game after akuma update tho cause it didnt automatically recache shaders lol

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and everyone thought that it was over

oak ice
oak ice
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The funny thing is that wilds is pretty d**n good game

frosty herald
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Actualy decent sleep weapons that arent nerscylla or artian

oak ice
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More beginner friendly and has added a good chunk of free content

heady rapids
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sleep? in this economy?

oak ice
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Has the best story in the series (it's kinda mid, but way better than other imo)

heady rapids
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we have a sleep gs user in our group and all he does is fuck stuff up

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either fucks up the stagger, blue wound pop or mounts

heady rapids
frosty herald
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I did make a fire artian hammer for gogmazios

heady rapids
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rise was alright, world was unbearable

frosty herald
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(Yes the dragon that lives in oil is weak to fire)

heady rapids
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wilds was cool but everyone kinda wanted to kill the kid

oak ice
heady rapids
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wilds is pretty casual and fun but if you want the challenge you can always do 9* quests

frosty herald
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I believe savage omega is gold crown sized

heady rapids
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but the tradeoff is that there's almost no preparation aspect

carmine lance
oak ice
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I have a friend who loves customization, but doesn't like killing cute animals. She saw chatacabra and went "LOOK AT HIM NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD"

heady rapids
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well you dont need to kill anyone tbh

oak ice
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Someone already tested it

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You can't capture it

heady rapids
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its self defence then

oak ice
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So she refuses to play the game

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She is super adorable about that to the point she doesn't kill molerats in fallout new vegas

maiden geyser
carmine lance
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Also just in general, it’s awesome that so many games I’ve been looking forward to are coming out/have come out, but at the same time, can we like, kill indie game devs? I’m trying to make a dent in my backlog not add to it 😭

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STOP MAKING GOOD GAMES FOR LIKE 1 MONTH, I BEG YOU

carmine lance
heady rapids
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cant wait to play monster hunter in an hour and 10 minutes

oak ice
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This person also mandates that I wear pink in every game as well...

carmine lance
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Lol, that’s sweet tho

oak ice
winter oxide
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how the dueling sword rn

plush estuary
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buffed

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too strong still

oak ice
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The parry just made it better devil claw

winter oxide
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parry?

heady rapids
plush estuary
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I have a clip

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1 min

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in tiwns rn

winter oxide
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didnt know the ds had a parry

heady rapids
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it does now

winter oxide
oak ice
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Literally last week

winter oxide
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oo

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no more fast stagger

carmine lance
heady rapids
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@frosty herald i legit cannot tell when this guy is ragebaiting

winter oxide
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im getting destroyed by the new enemy

oak ice
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Like don't feel bad

mighty root
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Not me

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I slide

carmine lance
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Trick is to get in close

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Make them switch to melee

winter oxide
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feels like a scab mauler but with guns

carmine lance
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Then they’re a wet noodle

oak ice
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Some people are deada** saying that psyker bubble is meta to help with them

mighty root
carmine lance
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Psyker bubble is a crutch

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That said

winter oxide
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ok so the trick is to get in clsoe and start chopping?

heady rapids
dry hinge
carmine lance
winter oxide
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bout to give it backshots

mighty root
carmine lance
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If I die, I die, so be it

vague depot
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whats the weapon combos for mk3 heavy evis

oak ice
plush estuary
carmine lance
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It’s funny to me how underwhelming lower difficulties feel once you get used to auric maelstrom

heady rapids
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parryslop

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finally a good horde shooter

vague depot
vague depot
plush estuary
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I have my Twins build

carmine lance
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There was a point I thought damnation was scary lol

vague depot
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I wish the sfx was more satisfying

plush estuary
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but its made just for twins

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if you wanted to tweak it

winter oxide
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wtf

vague depot
heady rapids
winter oxide
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where did the stam bar go?

mighty root
carmine lance
winter oxide
plush estuary
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I know

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I turn off my hud usually

winter oxide
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oo

plush estuary
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had it on that time cause I was testing things for the guide

winter oxide
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maybe one day ill go back to the ds

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always on the crusher

carmine lance
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Naur

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Knife is where it’s at

plush estuary
winter oxide
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im not good enough to make knife work in havoc

plush estuary
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its possible

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only thing that will be difficult is hitting rodin

heady rapids
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parry his kicks

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he's a bitch boy

plush estuary
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I'll need something to attack me so I can redirect to rodin

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not consistant enough to damage him

vague depot
plush estuary
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flak + unyield/cara precog + riposte/uncanny

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hi apple

daring kernel
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Bring block res and let a rager hit you from the back

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Howdy

plush estuary
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that youtube comment was funny

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surprised to see you there

carmine lance
daring kernel
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I lurk everyone from everywhere

heady rapids
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the micro celebrity

plush estuary
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How are you feeling about the update?

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the vet global damage increase is insane with skrimisher and exploit

daring kernel
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I am darktide cryptid

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Buffs aren't really gonna bring me back to the game lol

plush estuary
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fair

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power creep is insane rn

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wait

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I got clip

winter oxide
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how difficult are the new modifiers?

plush estuary
winter oxide
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stimms and rotten armour

copper hawk
daring kernel
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Nearly doubling scab hp pools is very funny though

plush estuary
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difficult becuase rotten often causes mission aborted crashes

heady rapids
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death penalty

plush estuary
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falchion mid

plush estuary
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power sword is still insane

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I also dont like the RB mechaic

daring kernel
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The funny poke sword go brr

plush estuary
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I prefer Psword special

plush estuary
winter oxide
plush estuary
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They get iron will sure, but after toughness damage they got nothing

oak ice
daring kernel
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Falchion has a fun moveset at least, powersword feels better mechanically though

oak ice
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But they feels much more durable compared to before update

spare talon
plush estuary
heady rapids
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the only change i felt to vet's survivability is the addition of plasma gunners

winter oxide
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hmm

plush estuary
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have fun with a blue rager

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blue dreg rager with purple teammates

spare talon
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A blue stimmed rager in tox gas is literally undamageable

plush estuary
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what do you do

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a team wipe with 1 blue rager

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H40

spare talon
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Where's my video of that one dreg stalker

plush estuary
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FGS crit headshot did 15% of its hp

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and it fully healed in 1 second

daring kernel
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What if a million armor surrounds a healing boss and they all stim

median steeple
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glip .....

plush estuary
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who up stimming rn

daring kernel
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Fun times

mighty root
median steeple
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I love their animation so much

winter oxide
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thats disgusting

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whats the solution then

plush estuary
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Hammer

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and stagger lock

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but good luck

mighty root
#

Coughing reject vs hydrogen rager

plush estuary
#

blue increaes stagger

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you run from them

daring kernel
#

Everyone in the call was wilding over watching a bulwark hitting the stim the first time

mighty root
#

Can I just cheese a 40 with shroud

winter oxide
#

ok im good at running

mighty root
#

Is archivium back

#

Das my fav map to speed run

#

Frick

spare talon
winter oxide
#

so blue is just more stagger + damage reduction

mighty root
#

Frick my chud life

daring kernel
#

Baross is a more fun speedrun bc your team doesn't know they're fucked until after the first event

mighty root
north sedge
mighty root
#

God that’s so funny

daring kernel
#

Stimmed and in gas

heady rapids
#

i need what he stimmed himself with

#

lowk

mighty root
#

Autism has invaded hav 40

spare talon
heady rapids
#

modifier looks fun shame havoc is still locked behind a dogshit system

spare talon
#

The climb was more miserable than ever

mighty root
#

Ainz are you playing tonight?

plush estuary
#

I love deranking to 22 because I wanted to try a hard map without meta builds

winter oxide
#

i cant wait to climb back up with these 2 new mods

mighty root
plush estuary
#

plus the mission aborts are insane

mighty root
#

Guh

plush estuary
#

every other map fails

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even in the win screen

mighty root
#

I’m wondering if it’s worth

winter oxide
#

do i just not host if i have rotten armour

north sedge
mighty root
#

I’ll attempt it

daring kernel
#

I think I got a havoc win with devil's claw this patch against armor healing then uninstalled

mighty root
#

I have a 30

spare talon
spare talon
#

Silo cluster with a forced all scab seed is just actually aids

mighty root
#

Yeah that sounds like ass

spare talon
#

Cuz shitting out plasma covered by walls of armor on the stairs and hallways with no cover

mighty root
#

Where can I play it

#

This torment sounds fun asf

daring kernel
#

Those stairs are so fun in gunner seeds

ripe quest
spare talon
mighty root
#

You know it’s bad when Arby suffers

spare talon
#

They do get a leg up with having a dog but they get their insane toughness gen gutted and are super vulnerable after 1 hit

mighty root
#

Guh

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Even with cas stance?

spare talon
#

Which is why you see so many pubs in auric hard crutching on arby getting their ass handed to them

mighty root
#

Yeah Arby really made people not think at all

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Sad day

spare talon
#

Ive been using thammer a lot in havoc so to me blue rager just meant 2x full thrusts

plush estuary
#

then purple....

ripe quest
#

20x hitmass too iirc

spare talon
#

An enemy that gets one shot cant be healed

plush estuary
#

purple stim is probably hardest

spare talon
#

And with how much mobile you are now with thammer you can glide to one shot the purple guys when you can

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If its rotten armor I think thammer is probably gonna be my go to

visual stream
#

Are the loadouts really buggy for anyone else

ripe quest
#

your game has chronic loadout deficiency syndrome, 1 in 5 players.

visual stream
#

I've been playing with a vet build I made for two days and after I swapped off and back, it reset that loadout to what it was before the update in some ways and fucked the tree

mighty root
ripe quest
visual stream
#

So it kept the weapons the same as what I set them to post-patch, but changed the cosmetics back to pre-update and for some reason the tree had 10 points undone?

ripe quest
#

Some loadouts get borked when kept after an update. Also updating a loadout is dumb sometimes you need to swap between loadouts to finalize changes

mighty root
#

@spare talon how is mixed clear and trash clear with thammer in 40?

visual stream
carmine falcon
#

mmmm yes we increased hp pools of crushers and lowered spawns

#

also >rotten armor haha

heady rapids
#

if the armor is rotten why is their armor not changed to infested

spare talon
#

With the mobility you can definitely do a charged hit for elites then heavy spam the trash

spare talon
heady rapids
#

does anyone else think there's a distinct lack of

#

infested enemies

spare talon
#

Infested should cover the lack of dreg enemies we have

heady rapids
#

i wouldnt mind both

long oasis
#

plaguebearers soon

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and rotflies

heady rapids
#

pox crusher pox mauler

long oasis
#

and death guard

carmine falcon
#

i want way more dregs and way less scabs
its still not happening
but maybe because im getting unlucky seeds

heady rapids
#

pox gunner

#

shoots pox

mighty root
ripe quest
# heady rapids infested enemies

It does kinda reek of an unfinished enemy category. Prob something related to the intended enemy designs that never got finished in time.

spare talon
carmine falcon
#

what even is infested, the walkes aaannddd dog?

heady rapids
#

yeah

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its kinda there

carmine falcon
#

huge

spare talon
#

I easily out dps both trauma and purg psykers in rotten armor using thammer, with and without purple cuz of it

heady rapids
#

maybe if admonition does something big they can justify adding more shit

spare talon
#

It really really hurts their output

heady rapids
#

and then add higher tiers of characters as dlc

carmine falcon
#

also fellas out of the 3 cdr abilities which one is da best

heady rapids
#

then we can finally get the space marine class dlc

spare talon
carmine falcon
#

interesting

spare talon
#

Pct is the most generally applicable but you really feel the extra uptime of MP when you arent swinging

wooden river
#

Rotten Armor compounds the crusher hp problem by like sixfold in H30+

spare talon
#

And its a 5s difference at max uptime for both

wooden river
#

It's absurd in H40

carmine falcon
#

ok ill swap out backstap for marty

wooden river
#

I got about 3/4 of the way through a H40 Gloriana last night and then we got cornered by multiple mauler and crusher waves before the finale

#

and we just couldn't kill our way out of them thanks to purple + rotten armor

spare talon
carmine falcon
#

without the old invoc of death im really feeling the cdr nerf. i like it because the game is way less ult spam and win BUT im not getting enough cooldown on fotf and in my opinion fotf is a spam ult by design

#

i wanna be spamming it

wooden river
#

it is a very strange time when people actually bring Smite to cheese the Crusher waves

spare talon
#

You really gotta gauge your options between the

#

Other two tho

#

When not playing marty

#

Will you crit enough or not

carmine falcon
#

if im not playing marty i might just do invoc cause backstab is either not working for me OR im not adjusted to new cdr

spare talon
#

Pathing also matters a bit there too

#

It is half the reduction

carmine falcon
#

i def have to postion way better since i cant just fotf every 5 seconds to a horde lmao

vague depot
carmine falcon
#

with old invoc my zealot gameplay was just fotf simulator

#

doesnt matter if im postioned poorly or not

jagged crag
#

Build deez nuts

carmine falcon
#

cause i will fotf

ripe quest
carmine falcon
#

actually

plush estuary
carmine falcon
#

i should take the new node

#

surely its meant to be played with new node

#

i was like nah i dont need it im a big boy

spare talon
long oasis
#

its 5 seconds off

spare talon
long oasis
#

I mean 6

vague depot
#

What happened

drifting wolf
#

freedom of choice

carmine falcon
# spare talon

havent seen a single build utlizing the two healing nodes above marty i wish they were better

jagged crag
#

Knife is still good without it, but not AS good

spare talon
jagged crag
#

Meanwhile, the others are there and honestly are fine depending on what you need/want.

long oasis
# carmine falcon i should take the new node

if you have fotf without the node and iod on for the entire cd it will be 15 seconds. If you have fotf and iod as well as the new node it will be a total 24 seconds after kill, and then 12 seconds to get a charge

vague depot
#

Oh ok

wooden river
#

FIre nade is good

#

Perhaps even great

#

and always was

#

I ran it even before the rework hehe

vague depot
#

Crusis with flak unyielding and slaughterer thrust right

wooden river
#

Clearing chaff is super useful right now because you need to take even more time to kill elites

spare talon
jagged crag
#

Stun nades are also stun nades, and honestly some of the best utility nades in the game

long oasis
soft sky
spare talon
#

And carapace unyielding
Crusher hp buff

carmine falcon
#

give zealot nade regen haha imagine....

soft sky
#

cant stack strength like that

spare talon
carmine falcon
#

1 nade every 2 minute haha....

spare talon
ripe quest
vague depot
#

Ah ok

long oasis
#

knife is still better as easy special clear

spare talon
#

Shock and awe is in the running for one of the worst talents in the game

soft sky
#

since when could strength stack?

plush estuary
#

always

long oasis
vague depot
#

What about the gun

carmine falcon
#

i still go back to knives cause i run out of nades and have no regen gigaxi

spare talon
soft sky
#

i thought you could only use one, plus thrust already 1 shots

long oasis
vague depot
#

Iirc thammer horde clear was a bit mediocre so I ran flamer but now that I have no tknife I can’t special snipe so I was thinking about dusting off the revolver

silver leaf
spare talon
soft sky
#

so thrust slaughter is the correct blessings for hammer?

jagged crag
long oasis
long oasis
vague depot
#

Big iron it is

carmine falcon
vague depot
#

Flak carapace surgical hand cannon?

soft sky
spare talon
#

It does come down to personal preference tho

silver leaf
long oasis
#

awful proc condition for 15% more

spare talon
#

So im not gonna tell you your wrong for that

#

I just think ht is more comfy

long oasis
wooden river
#

Double Barrel if you want to mow down lines of ragers or kill Trappers hiding inside of big blobs of poxwalkers

#

🙂

silver leaf
spare talon
#

I use the new bolter with thammer cuz it kinda is silly when it comes to density, especially hordes that thammer can control well but not kill fast

#

Where's that one high havoc clip of the bolter

long oasis
wooden river
#

Maybe it's time to go back to the fire shotgun

long oasis
#

puncture pinning fire?

spare talon
carmine falcon
spare talon
#

Fire frenzy is 50% dmg on 5 direct hit kills

#

And pinning fire is strength so its multiplicitive

#

And both buff the aoe

#

Resulting in

vague depot
#

The new boltgun is mk3b right

long oasis
#

woaw

spare talon
#

The one thats shit brown

vague depot
#

No I’m blind

long oasis
#

magdumping hordes is viable now

vague depot
#

2b

spare talon
#

Thats the new one

vague depot
#

Alri go t

wooden river
#

I wish we had a flamer mark that focused more on short big bursts of flame

carmine falcon
#

just make two bolters and give them two skins

wooden river
#

with a faster draw time

#

(Maybe this is what the Melta will do)

carmine falcon
#

sounds like u want a melta

#

oh u said it lol

spare talon
#

For the last year I have been incapable of knowing mark names for the first month of release because I have months of calling then p4m2 or some shit (thats the mk7 exe shotgun)

wooden river
#

Depends on how the Melta is depicted too lol. It depends on the 40k game

visual stream
#

The worst thing they ever did to this game was add plasma gunners in the state that they're in right now

wooden river
#

I gave up on memorizing the new mk names to be honest

silver leaf
#

Only the vet should get that most likely

wooden river
#

idk it's a tossup between plasma gunners and crushers

vague depot
#

Fire frenzy pinning fire and flak unyielding?

long oasis
#

they changed the mark names and I never recovered mentally

wooden river
#

Plasma Gunners are bad for everyone across all play modes

long oasis
#

I still call the fire shotgun kantrael

spare talon
wooden river
#

Crushers and Rotten Armor are hell for H30+

vague depot
#

Alright

#

This build works in both havoc and normal right

carmine falcon
vague depot
#

Havoc rn is just normal but with more enemies and more modifiers right

spare talon
carmine falcon
#

just a laser beam of death

vague depot
#

Alright

wooden river
#

Think I've had more games end to rotten armor elites than anything after the patch

spare talon
#

Anything that works in havoc works below

wooden river
vague depot
#

Right I got too used to needing builds specifically for havoc

long oasis
vague depot
#

Shit like the chorus corruption cleanse zealot everyone was running

carmine falcon
wooden river
#

Ahh right

carmine falcon
#

horde clear shotgun with wide range

visual stream
#

Juts give plasma gunners more intuitive audio and visual cues that the shot is going off

#

That's all they have to do

spare talon
wooden river
visual stream
#

They can stay just as deadly and be fine

vague depot
#

Inshallah

wooden river
#

which removes the invuln gate on toughness break

silver leaf
#

The question is why everyone wants to try to play shroudfield now

misty ravine
#

Dawn of War 2 had the best Melta Gun depiction I've seen in a video game

carmine falcon
spare talon
long oasis
#

because they buffed tf out of backstabs

wooden river
#

it's the hardest thing to get used to in Havoc tbh when you're starting out

silver leaf
wooden river
#

Havoc also makes enemies deal corruption on melee hit

long oasis
#

you can get 75% backstab damage every 8 seconds

spare talon
wooden river
#

so even a few poxwalker scratches can add some corruption

long oasis
#

alongside shroudfield bonuses its an insane amount of fuck you damage

silver leaf
#

So which is stronger? Thammer fury or shroud any melee?

wooden river
#

and getting overheaded by a mauler/crusher will outright oneshot the squishy classes. No going down or anything, you just perish

long oasis
#

but thammer fury still better for bosses probably

silver leaf
#

Gaddam I was hoping someone would say this lol

spare talon
#

You cant get me to run shroud thammer
Im not fucking doing it

wooden river
#

Shroudfield got huge damage and usability buffs. Praying Infil gets something similar in the end-of-year patch...

misty ravine
silver leaf
#

That’s interesting

jagged crag
long oasis
#

yea I would not recommend shroudfield still

#

you can do fine with fury thammer

carmine falcon
#

like bread and butter

#

like milk and sugar

silver leaf
#

That’s basically my zealot staple

#

Tbh guys I have a hard time not playing martyrdom anyway

spare talon
misty ravine
#

When I think of a stealth assassin I immediately think of a two-handed hammer that produces thunder and lightning

spare talon
#

This thammer build

wooden river
#

Maybe we'll get the flayer dual swords in the Shroudfield icon

carmine falcon
wooden river
#

(Give dual tac axes too, please!)

silver leaf
#

“You said it’s the melee class”

long oasis
jagged crag
#

Shroudfield is honestly not bad, but depending on enemy density and where the fight happens, it can also be insanely useless.
Being Stealthed while body blocked by large burly men might be nice most of the time, it's not when you're the one trying to get them from behind.

wooden river
#

That Shroudfield icon is 1:1 one of the Inquisition minis they released a couple years ago, too

plucky sparrow
misty ravine
#

I also move that Shroud+Martyrdom+Thammer should be abbreviated as "Sharthammer"

silver leaf
plucky sparrow
long oasis
#

a knife?

spare talon
jagged crag
spare talon
#

Oh what is that video bugged

#

CRINGE

silver leaf
long oasis
#

how about you give me a spear first

spare talon
#

He yells "WAIT YOURE A SP-" and the video cuts mid backstab

long oasis
#

force spear, power glaive

silver leaf
#

Yea something like that

#

One attack that does cc. One

ripe quest
formal umbra
carmine falcon
#

i only use shroudfield as a dmg ult yeah

#

pop it then pop a mf with your weapon of choice

#

boom

jagged crag
formal umbra
#

I use it for damage and for ez revives

#

One shotting daemonhosts is a source of free dopamine

misty ravine
carmine falcon
silver leaf
#

Idk shroud just sounds like more relaxed fury

spare talon
#

I refuse to use shroud cuz it doesnt have a massive atk speed buff

formal umbra
#

You know what that's really fair

long oasis
#

they gave you another 10% though

#

punish impropriety

carmine falcon
#

fotf gives 20%

long oasis
#

martyrdom

#

30% bonus

carmine falcon
#

fotf spam is just constant attack speed

formal umbra
silver leaf
#

Two charges. All she wrote

long oasis
#

frenzy + punish impropriety + martyrdom is already 50%

#

your greed sickens me

#

70% is too mich for mortals

mighty root
#

I’ll never use stealth hammer

#

It’s a meme

formal umbra
#

I'm really glad fotf and shroud seem well balanced between each other now so it comes up to personal preference, this rework was really good

formal umbra
silver leaf
#

No bleed no greed

mighty root
#

If I wanna meme I’ll play oggy

formal umbra
#

hi epic cole

mighty root
#

Ty epic coal

carmine falcon
#

now rework book since no one is taking it anyway Haha

#

make it cooler

long oasis
#

better this than when shroudfield was literally trolling

silver leaf
formal umbra
#

book is a better sleep aid than melatonin

carmine falcon
#

hello playtesters please rework book into a banner you deploy and it gives buffs but u also can still move and do shit

#

crazy

mighty root
#

One sec

carmine falcon
#

like a cooler nuncio aquilla

#

oh and the banner follows you because of course

long oasis
#

spac marine 2

carmine falcon
#

yes....

mighty root
long oasis
#

how dare you

#

this is not cod

carmine falcon
#

what

carmine falcon
#

make nancy move too

carmine falcon
#

its a fucking speaker

#

why is bro standing still

long oasis
#

it does right?

#

you have to hold it down or something

silver leaf
long oasis
#

istg it moves

silver leaf
#

Why unarmored perk though?

mighty root
silver leaf
long oasis
#

what happened to tiktok getting banned

spare talon
#

Nothing ever happens

long oasis
#

because theyre not supposed to

#

our system is a prison

plucky sparrow
jagged crag
#

What if Chorus didn't give gold toughness, but it set everything within it on fire and stunned while healing the teams toughness (only to 100%).

carmine falcon
long oasis
#

can you give me fire grease as a talent

formal umbra
plucky sparrow
mighty root
plucky sparrow
drifting wolf
#

what is this supposed to mean

long oasis
mighty root
#

They don’t know

long oasis
#

096 has a bubble shield

mighty root
#

They aren’t knowers

silver leaf
#

I’m not a knower

#

But I want to be

jagged crag
#

Know deez nuts

silver leaf
jagged crag
mighty root
mighty root
lethal sedge
#

with dueling sword should i use mostly heavy attack?

jagged crag
mighty root
#

Tbh

#

Ds sucks

jagged crag
mighty root
#

Try tac axe

drifting wolf
plucky sparrow
#

tac axe sucks, just punch them

drifting wolf
#

those who show

mighty root
#

@long oasis are you a great immortal cultivator?

plucky sparrow
# mighty root

I hate that I kind of know what this is talking about because of those shitty YouTube ads

mighty root
#

those who snow

jagged crag
#

I'm a 40 year old man that still thinks jeans and leather jackets are cool.
I have no idea what any of this is.

plucky sparrow
#

good.

#

don’t experience the brainrot slop ads

long oasis