zealot-class

[bitter anvil]

Not good on high mass enemy yes

[carmine falcon]

Big thundie gang

[jagged crag]

The Thammer is, perhaps, one of the most classic weapons of the game that still carries the old mindset of release Darktide:
The weapon was made to do ONE THING well, and it kinda doodoo poops at everything else.

[bitter anvil]

What If I could try shock and awe 🤔

Test some horde clearing on high mass enemy

[acoustic dune]

chat

[carmine falcon]

If they were to up thammer general performance then they'll have to get rid of funny 1 shots

[acoustic dune]

smash marry kill

[carmine falcon]

U can't have a weapon with good horde clear and better single target AND 1 tap bosses

[acoustic dune]

dont ignore me cyber

which are you marrying smash or krill

[bitter anvil]

Mandated Edicts technique: infinite Hound Pound

[carmine falcon]

I'll kill all od them

[jagged crag]

True, though one shotting bosses is mostly clip-bait. It's not particularly integral to any gameplan to 1-shot bosses, unless you're in a mode or modifier where bosses spawn super frequently.

[carmine falcon]

[acoustic dune]

you cant

bc thats jhon arbities darktide

he wont let you

its not in the lex book

[swift hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/karlurban-dredd-gif-8196538

[bitter anvil]

John Dredd domain expansion is infinite Hound Pound

[carmine falcon]

Yeah I tried shroud field with hammer in a boss malestrom and I turned it into a normal one

[acoustic dune]

arbities if it was good

[jagged crag]

Ya, that is the best use-case for the Thammer.

[bitter anvil]

I forgot to tell keystone as using fury with thammer

I run martyr

[jagged crag]

And I won't argue one bit that the Thammer is great for boss spawn modifiers. It's GOATed at those.

[swift hearth]

Yeah the one that was channeling Christian bale Batman was a bit too in the nose

[jagged crag]

However, it's just a clip-bait machine outside of them.
"IT 1-SHOTS DAEMONHOSTS WOOOOO" congrats on pulling the two DHs in the map that you could have just walked around?
Remember when Ogryns used to TOOONK every DH just to prove the shield could do something before they were buffed? Ya, it's that.

[acoustic dune]

what are your thought on the smart oggy

(tumor)

[swift hearth]

I mean there needs to be some kinda reward for fighting daemonhost

[jagged crag]

More room to operate if you needed it.

It's just a L4D witch. Avoid if you can, wipe out if you need the room.

[swift hearth]

So she's the bitchy landlord

[swift hearth]

Not familiar with this reference

[jagged crag]

More like the goose standing in the middle of the sidewalk.

[acoustic dune]

well look at the lad heead

you can see the deep thought behind those eyes

[bitter anvil]

If I bring thunderhammer and my friend found one people can one shot bosses, he going tell me go kill daemonhost, kill every heretic

[swift hearth]

Ogrynkin if he was shorter and can do algebra

[jagged crag]

Ya, but that's just creating a use for it where there doesn't need to be one.
If that's your thing, that's fine, but that's choosing to engage a trap because you have the one thing that can disarm it quickly. Bypassing the trap is still the general strat.

[vapid void]

Sneaking around Heresy is not the Zealot way, unless you're planning to put your knife it in its back

[bitter anvil]

Bypassing when peace is easy, but try bypassing trap in active combat won’t be nice day

Player get yet from mutant to daemonhost

[jagged crag]

People do it all the time.
Ya, sometimes shit happens, but most of the time, people pass DHs without issue. They just pay more attention to positioning when they hear the crying.

[empty quiver]

The best kind of stealth is "they know I'm around, they don't know where exactly, everyone's screaming on comms as they get cut off one by one"

[swift hearth]

I mean Vermintide had objectives that gave you small buffs in the game

DH being more of an annoying obstacle and no one picks up grimoire anymore cuz there's no point in it is another bit of lost potential

[jagged crag]

Grims being shit is something I agree with you on.

DH is just an obstacle.
Grims, however, should totally give something for their trouble.

[swift hearth]

Gotta get something for it to be worth punishing the whole squad with

[vapid void]

whats yalls favorite secondary? I really like the sh bolt gun

[empty quiver]

At least in Ratclick grims could give Warrior Priest bonus health if he had corruption resistance curios

Was always funny to me honestly, like Victor was becoming tougher out of pure disgust and spite

[jagged crag]

You'd think that KNOWINGLY carrying around the Demon Core and irradiating everyone would lead to fast, panicked actions.
I want Grims to give a 10-20% attack speed increase.

[swift hearth]

Played some havoc, gotta yeah bolter or snub again

My zealot usually carries light infantry gun tho

[empty quiver]

Patrician choice honestly

It handles well and kicks hard

Also blowing people up is funny

[swift hearth]

This or psyker get something cool at the cost of ... Dying idk

[vapid void]

Yes, I really enjoy the gunplay in this game. They're all generally effective and don't feel weak or underpowered. I've yet to play past Heresy though so I don't know how hard they hold up end game

[empty quiver]

In my experience, the bolt pistol holds up well across the entire game

[swift hearth]

See that's close to what I'm thinking, it can be class based

[empty quiver]

Yeah, the vet could have heightened adrenaline from the stress which would boost his stamina and toughness regen, the zealot could get bonus damage and attack speed from their seething hatred, the psyker could be unwillingly empowered, and the ogryn... probably wouldn't get it honestly

Simple minded should be an intrinsic ogryn feature lol

[acoustic dune]

chat

what does this mean

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[acoustic dune]

you know the rule stan

[acoustic dune]

jesus

what is that

@solar gorge

[vapid void]

The inexorable judgement keystone seems decent to me, but also kind of limiting for aggressive/horde fighting. do people tend to use it only on stealth builds with crit builds or something?

[hushed knoll]

Sautéed chicken, spinach, onion, garlic with sauce

[carmine falcon]

Nothing limiting about it at all

You don't really need to build maximum stacks everytime

Just play the same way you do

[vapid void]

Do they build up quickly? I'm not high enough level for the keystones yet, a few missions off. my build is already meant for fury so it'll be awhile before i try it but i'm very curious. It sounds fun with combat knife

[carmine falcon]

Yeah you build stacks by doing stuff you're always doing (moving, sprinting, dodging)

Pretty easy to build

[royal cape]

What’s different on devils sword marks?

[acoustic dune]

move set

like most wepon theres a fast heavy and medium version

[royal cape]

Anything else

[acoustic dune]

not that i know off

theres not much weapon that have different stat on different mark

[south prism]

@normal shell

im definitely a 1

[south prism]

me when u dont play along

[normal shell]

i need to stay unpredictable

[south prism]

we're shopping for beds today i'll find one for you

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/rigbycat-rigby-cat-shadow6736-iamrigbycat-funny-gif-2985618463653699699

[normal shell]

just need a mattress

[south prism]

you're getting a queen size

[normal shell]

Slay

[solar gorge]

I feel like he knows?

[misty nova]

Oh pretty easy
You never use mk1
Mk4 and mk7 just have "inverted" moveset

[mighty mesa]

what a silly lil guy

[placid dust]

to get 1shot crusher break point with thunderhammer i need marty build right ?or its possible with others as well?

[bitter anvil]

You just need fury and thammer that’s it

For boss go shroudfield

Maxxing thammer perk elite and carapace, thrust blessing

Yeah definitely overkill but that make sure kill it

[placid dust]

yea im playing marty shroud thammer right now was just wondering if other build can get 1shot crusher break point

[slate notch]

Is bloodletter good now on chainswords?

[bitter anvil]

If you manage get right below health yes without waste shroudfield

[jagged crag]

Marty Shroud Thammer is the best way to ALWAYS get it.
Fury and Thammer might flub if you misstime the Thrust stacks or miss the weakspot by a hair.

In practice, however, Fury Thammer is fine because you aren't the only damage flying around

[placid dust]

so basically thammer is only playable with shroudfield and marty

[bitter anvil]

I like fury to catch up teammate or dash away hound/trapper behind me

[jagged crag]

Uh, no

Fury is fine

It's just not pumping the big boss numbers

[bitter anvil]

Is more sustain dps

Shroud is brust

[placid dust]

but thats the whole point of this weapon

anti boss nuke

[bitter anvil]

Is not healthy to chase meta when you can enjoy different ability

[jagged crag]

There are all kinds of acts of violence that occur between bosses. Fury makes those better for the Thammer, as it can spike for those.

[bitter anvil]

Fury subnode give 2 charge

[placid dust]

i do not play meta weapons at all after new update

[placid dust]

yea but is it possible to 1shot crusher without furry ?

[jagged crag]

Freudian slip

[bitter anvil]

Can you one shot crusher without shroudfield?

[placid dust]

yea

[bitter anvil]

Then you could do same with fury

[placid dust]

🤦‍♂️

[bitter anvil]

[placid dust]

the question was can any other build than marty do the same 😄

[bitter anvil]

I naturally didn’t fury every crusher I keep light bonk their head

[placid dust]

i almost never use light attack on crushers

[bitter anvil]

You could go piety bleed hammer

[jagged crag]

Without Fury, Marty Stacks, and only using Thrust and maxxing out Slaughterer, I just got a Thammer to get a Crusher to 1% of their HP with a fully charged overhead.
If I had any bonus damage from Marty, ANY splash damage from allies, or popped Fury or Shroud, he would be dead twice over.

[bitter anvil]

Sound unpopular that’s my ideal

You get other talent sources boost your melee dmg already

So no fury or shroudfield one hit kill is almost there possible

Ogryn aura heavy attack damage boost be topping cherry

[placid dust]

yea so i was just thinking if i am taking such a slow clunky weapon so it better 1shot crushers for me 😄

[bitter anvil]

Go vet with krak instead

If you using slow weapon thammer I think is ironhelm mark

[placid dust]

i hate that vet has more dmg than zealot now -_-

[bitter anvil]

My experience using those is slow ass swing

Until I support with Marty

[jagged crag]

Vet has more ranged AND melee damage than Zealot now

[bitter anvil]

Yeah zealot is a burst damage type

Vet just dps sustainer

[placid dust]

they basically nerfed zealot ,buffed vet ,buffed ds4,buffed psyker ,did not nerf arby or ogryn

[bitter anvil]

Not all nerfed

Martyrdom purpose reworked make better than last version

Nobody want pick that last version

[placid dust]

i can agreed on that

marty is better

[jagged crag]

Zealot is easy to crit-max and stack toughness on.

[bitter anvil]

Vet just lacking survivability

[jagged crag]

They made the old Crit-Max DS build better.

[placid dust]

you cannot 1shot crushers anymore with ds4

[bitter anvil]

I means his rank survivability tankness is lower than zealot

[bitter anvil]

Good

Everyone whine about ds4 one hit kill everyone bored my brain out

[placid dust]

not realy vet can just kill whole room easy

even full with crushers with no problem

[bitter anvil]

That’s his job to clear non-boss type

And specialist caretaker

[placid dust]

it funny that ranged class is better at melee damage than a melee class

[bitter anvil]

Someone here told zealot has more survivability

Tankness

There’s node like dmg rd

Toughness gain from many conditions

[placid dust]

like it doesnt matter much if you have to play marty to get most dmg anyways ,so you always are 1hit from death

[bitter anvil]

Dodge, heavy attack bonus regen, and keystone

Weapon blessing

[jagged crag]

Every point of Toughness for a Zealot is like having 2 points of Toughness. Zealot essentially doubles their effective Toughness.

[placid dust]

yea but now zealot meta is marty basically

before it was piety

full health

[bitter anvil]

Piety is free crit

[jagged crag]

Zealot meta is still Crit-Maxing. Marty is just a popular Off-Meta.

[obtuse stirrup]

What's the dumpstat for the new bolt pistol mark?

[bitter anvil]

Some people got tired piety

They want try new thing

[obtuse stirrup]

I wanna make a sidearm for my chain axe 4

[placid dust]

its popular cause zealots dmg is nerfed

[obtuse stirrup]

taking firebombs with it

[bitter anvil]

Me comeback martyr thammer because it got new work

I didn’t use much martyr hammer that time

[obtuse stirrup]

I always liked IJ more on the hammer

felt a lot safer

[bitter anvil]

Mobility

[obtuse stirrup]

and still leverages its strength

[jagged crag]

It's popular because it works, the Marty buffs make it viable in high level conditions, and it's not the same Crit-Maxing DS build they've been playing for literal years now.

[obtuse stirrup]

ah, not collateral now then? Good, I prefer it that way around :D

usual perks and blessings, like flak/unarmoured/lethal/puncture?

[placid dust]

same it is fun now to play thammer but if you have team with meta builds it can be boring cause everything just dies to fast before you even charge the hammer

[bitter anvil]

Eh I’m too used people keep telling mobility is dump

[obtuse stirrup]

or is there a better way with it

[jagged crag]

Crit-Maxing DS is still the most bang for your buck, but now there are options to not use it and still do fine. Crit DS is still king of the hill, but the other playstyles aren't as far behind as they used to be.

[bitter anvil]

If you want boomy go lethal and surgical

[jagged crag]

And yes, Zealot damage got nerfed. Nerfing Zealot is a time honored tradition in Darktide.

[bitter anvil]

Shroud is one time use

While fury has one node give 2 use

[obtuse stirrup]

Surgical's worth it on it then? I suppose better ability to pick off gunners?

[placid dust]

good i hate seeing only stupid broken op meta weapons in pubs games

[obtuse stirrup]

fury also gives that attack speed boost, and attack speed's the best attack stat generally

[bitter anvil]

Oh if you want Hitman kill, go old boltpistol

[jagged crag]

The first year of Darktide fixes always came with a "Nerf Zealot _____" line while Power Sword ran rampant.

[bitter anvil]

New one just plainly explosive chaff killing

[obtuse stirrup]

I want to be a boomy pistol, but without completely sacrificing the anti-long range ability

but for the sake of fun at least I want to at least try the extra boomy base model for it

[bitter anvil]

I think as long not use on ogryn enemies long range

[obtuse stirrup]

I've put more than enough hours into my old bolt pistol

[obtuse stirrup]

that's fine, ogryn can get eaten by my chain axe

[bitter anvil]

The gun is already killed human sized dude

[obtuse stirrup]

reapers are the only issue then I guess

and I can still kinda make them die

[bitter anvil]

Is just less ttk

But whatever

Surgical and lethal both kill horde chaff and single target non ogryn

[obtuse stirrup]

the mark 6 is the new one right?

[bitter anvil]

Idk look silhouette

[placid dust]

is the new bolt pistol any good

[obtuse stirrup]

stubby lad

[bitter anvil]

If is has straight mag is that

[signal spoke]

this insulting to all zealot players smh

[bitter anvil]

New bot always have straight mag

[obtuse stirrup]

yep, that's the one

and for perks, what'd you say?

given I've got a chain axe that eats elites generally for breakfast

flak/unarmoured usual stuff?

or flak/maniac?

[runic grotto]

Why are my taxe heavies so slow?

[jagged crag]

The mod, or the fact that a mod has to fix that?

[bitter anvil]

Flakky and unarmored

[runic grotto]

Didn't they change it so you are a lot faster while charging heavies?

[bitter anvil]

Unarmored when you want watch the groaner in pack explode

This my build isn’t for endgame area

[runic grotto]

@mighty root you are big taxe lover

[obtuse stirrup]

eh, I feel like puncture would probably still fit it better for how I'm gonna use it

rather than surgical

[runic grotto]

Did something change

or am i trippin

[obtuse stirrup]

will give it a try like this and maybe change after

[bitter anvil]

Puncture work only direct hit

On explosive boltpistol

Is big

Boom area

[obtuse stirrup]

that's fine, I'm also using it for eg trappers that aren't quite in axe range

as a quickdraw fuck you

since I'm not running throwing knives that usually people would take for that

[bitter anvil]

I think is also slower than old one

[obtuse stirrup]

The bleed would be more likely to finish off a trapper or a flamer, than just having to leverage surgical

[bitter anvil]

Have puncture 4 stack won’t make it max fast

[bitter anvil]

Oh surgical is for aim at the horde or long range kill

[obtuse stirrup]

Ooh, the crit makes the boom shot bigger then

[bitter anvil]

Yes I think that

[obtuse stirrup]

I was more thinking of using the boom as a wide stagger

but if it critting makes it a lot better, that gives me a good opener

[bitter anvil]

Yeah

[obtuse stirrup]

as well as a space maker

aight, I'm never patient enough to let a bleed tick anyway lol

[signal spoke]

https://youtu.be/w2DcjKC7Qtg?si=WBt6ljA92ATzum2N I feel some voicelines dont match with dash much but the maniac laughs so very hard

[bitter anvil]

4 stack on slow weapon isn’t good

Better off explosive critty and bigger boom

[obtuse stirrup]

I mean, I'm only building up stacks until I get close enough to axe range anyway for like a boss

[bitter anvil]

I see

So you have scourge

[obtuse stirrup]

I'm usually just taking the 4 stacks just as a trickle finisher

not running scourge

this is not a crit build

literally just to finish off something that gets left at 10%

[bitter anvil]

Yeah I get I now

[obtuse stirrup]

or to stack some extra boss damage on before it's engaged

just shooting it in a strong point

if I can't hit anything else

at least it's bleeding for 16

but then again every fucker provides bleed now

most of which is stronger than mine

so avoiding bleed is probably actually teamfriendlier

since I don't have uncanny

[bitter anvil]

They removed fury Rending for all

If that was a thing you could do that

With new mark

[obtuse stirrup]

Yeah, but alas lol

the days of zealots killing crushers with an autopistol are gone

eat dinky little 5mm bullets, tin cans

[bitter anvil]

Have you try test damage shot in pysk see how many shot req to kill

[obtuse stirrup]

no idea, but meat grinder always feels off for numbers? idk

[bitter anvil]

Mmm no

[obtuse stirrup]

like some bonuses are not triggerable

martyrdom etc

disrupt

I guess for this test it would be fine though

[bitter anvil]

Those are unrelated

Health is matter

[runic grotto]

Is litearlly no one else playing with taxe?

[potent shuttle]

the new bolter, pinning fire?

[obtuse stirrup]

ooh god

the new bistol

it just about avoids every breakpoint

[bitter anvil]

My vet plasma play with Taxe after switch from psword

[obtuse stirrup]

it kills me lmao

I think I need to take puncture

[bitter anvil]

Hey I have that exact blessing

[runic grotto]

Does it feel slower?

[potent shuttle]

im using it for hoard clear in hallways

[obtuse stirrup]

it leaves like everything on about 5%

[bitter anvil]

Need loadout config make better free test

[bitter anvil]

I feel like flash dash

Psword is slow yes

[runic grotto]

I mean

It's heavy attacks

You barely move

[potent shuttle]

i got back into the mk2 relic, its fun

[bitter anvil]

Which melee?

[runic grotto]

I thought they changed sprint profiles

taxe 7

[bitter anvil]

I don’t know what mark I have on

[gilded thorn]

o7

[obtuse stirrup]

tac axe 7 isn't really only heavies iirc?

[bitter anvil]

I have the overhead heavy first

[potent shuttle]

relic blade go brrrr
https://open.spotify.com/track/1OtLNenkGkCDsVLGCgMtpj?si=c6b5a6564f9d4ac5

[obtuse stirrup]

isn't it HL loop for hordes, LHL loop for single?

[runic grotto]

no

[obtuse stirrup]

so you're 50% or 67% lights

[gilded thorn]

trynna build assault chainaxe

any tips

[runic grotto]

pa h for horde

[obtuse stirrup]

mark 4 unyielding carapace headtaker slaughterer

martyrdom

[bitter anvil]

As a music?

[obtuse stirrup]

rip and tear til it's done

[runic grotto]

lights for single

[bitter anvil]

I never use Taxe pa for horde

[obtuse stirrup]

Kill hordes, elites, specials, bosses

[bitter anvil]

Taxe has bad cleave

[runic grotto]

I feel like heavy attacks turn me into a turtle

[obtuse stirrup]

indiscriminately

[runic grotto]

Has has great cleave

[gilded thorn]

combos?

[obtuse stirrup]

attack speed makes up for it

[potent shuttle]

i have that song to

[obtuse stirrup]

does angron use combos? just smash attacks :D

[bitter anvil]

I guess I was thinking about horde scab brusier

[obtuse stirrup]

but really

lights generally for single target

[runic grotto]

It oneshots them

[obtuse stirrup]

heavies or push attacks into heavies for hordes

[runic grotto]

Still awesome

[obtuse stirrup]

you need push attacks mixed in to stay safe

just heavies will make you bleed hits

focus on raw damage and attack speed, disregard crit

largely anyway

rev is for being a flash git

[runic grotto]

I am literally running taxe with piety rn

[obtuse stirrup]

play around with it

there's the Big Rev Combo

[potent shuttle]

yee, if you getting weak spot hits you good

[obtuse stirrup]

which is, rev, heavy into the head, wait until it actually connects and starts to saw, then quickly hit Fury of the Faithful before the final tick

maximum damage you can deal with one swing and best use of FotF for a chain weapon generally

applies to all chain weapons

the tricky part is fitting it in in between a boss's knockbacks

you gotta bait it out first

[gilded thorn]

for assault chainaxe i mean

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-crit-zealot-build

[runic grotto]

no

[bitter anvil]

Mreowr

[runic grotto]

Do you feel like heavy attacks make you slow as fuck?

[mighty root]

Nope

[runic grotto]

It's like I am using an eviscerator when charging heavies

But it was supposed to be changeg previous patch

Different heavy attack movement profile

But it's back to fucking turtle speed

[obtuse stirrup]

yeah, everything I just said applies to the chain axe 4

[runic grotto]

I need to please either confirm

[mighty root]

The movement on the beginning heavy is fine it’s the 2nd that slows you down

[obtuse stirrup]

revved lights can also be good as a pre-loaded catch for fast hit-and-run type opponents

[royal cape]

Whats the voice type that keeps calling for judgment ?

[runic grotto]

Was it always like that?

[mighty root]

Judge

[gilded thorn]

wtnx

[royal cape]

Lol that simple huh?

[mighty root]

They changed it when they last buffed it

[runic grotto]

I mean yes, after the changes

[bitter anvil]

If his voice is heavy throat hurt is him

[runic grotto]

I don't recall being so fucking slow previous patch

[bitter anvil]

I couldn’t do that

[runic grotto]

I must be tripping

[royal cape]

Idk. She seems more on the stoic side
The voice is on the deeper side, but not exactly “hurt”

[potent shuttle]

im guessing its all stam use?

[obtuse stirrup]

yeah, how is that new aura?

I can't imagine that being better than the TDR in a vacuum

[potent shuttle]

seems good

[obtuse stirrup]

I struggle to really assess the strength of stamina stuff

[signal spoke]

New zealous is already better than loner because loner did not do jackshit

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[bitter anvil]

Is less worse than loner

[obtuse stirrup]

hm, just had a thought for that bolt pistol

instead of surgical orpuncture, I'm gonna try run and gun

that looks great

[royal cape]

Loner was supposed to be better passive tough regen when a squad member was missing or you were alone
But. Eh

[obtuse stirrup]

there were legends that it also turned off punishment squad spawns for you

idk if that was true, but that was like the only draw for me

it was a travel node too, but a really bad one

since everyone wants holy rev

[royal cape]

What i want. Is more health protection
Being on the front lines… my face hurts…

[jagged crag]

#BringBackLoner

[signal spoke]

Better than the other two veteran auras

Fire team still be only 5% damage buff

[bitter anvil]

And next guess is 1% ammo return

[jagged crag]

That was true

[signal spoke]

Survivalist is fine at this rate

Fire team should have been 10-15% ranged damage buff

Would be good to go with stance

[jagged crag]

Loner set your default Coherency to 2.
The game tracks any character with a Coherency of 1 (themselves) and puts them on a timer. When the timer fills up, the Director is allowed to start spawning punishments for being out of Coherency that are targeted at that player.
Loner completely bypassed this by always having Coherency at a minimum of 2.

[slate haven]

Do y’all fux with Labubu phonk?

Just me? sigh

[jagged crag]

Also, this means that ANY complaints of Disablers being spawned on account of the "Loner Zealot" running ahead were, in fact, mostly false. Loner Zealots could trigger SCRIPTED events, but not Director Coherency Punishments.

[frozen kernel]

Sure but nobody actually ran loner. They just ran ahead with other auras lol

I think it was a "funny language haha" that the term "loner zealot" also applied to an aura of the same name once trees came out

[jagged crag]

Some do, sure, but there was a very specific stereotype of Loner Zealots that was mostly based on total inaccuracies.

Loner Zealot was the boogeyman of the game, despite most of the claims against them being based on total misinformation.

[frozen kernel]

IMO it seemed like a grandfathered negative sentiment about zealot players that would use their speed and general safe tankiness to run ahead of the team, but it's not a zealot-unique behavior

I had a psyker buddy at launch who would rush ahead of everyone and then promptly pay for it when he hit the mauler horde lol

[jagged crag]

I would, and still will, argue that Infiltrate Vets are worse.

At least Shroudfield does a thing.
Infiltrate is fusion-hot turbo-garbage.

[frozen kernel]

I honestly don't see a lot of them in my games, and the ones I've noticed actually pulled off a pretty clutch revive or two

But if that's the only thing it has going for it then lmao

1 zealot flashbang be like:

[dull iris]

what blessings for eviscerator

and what mark

[jagged crag]

Ya, you notice the once or twice it does something because it normally does nothing.

[frozen kernel]

Mk3 if you have big pp

[dull iris]

so mk3 sucks

[jagged crag]

mk3 plays like a dream, but damages like floppy cheeks.

[frozen kernel]

Haven't tried it since the update, but it's been behind the MkX since it dropped

Shit dawg the Mk3 is the red headed step child of zealot weapons

[jagged crag]

mk3 is a beautiful weapon that, on release, was my go-to.

[frozen kernel]

^ ❤️

I religiously ran Evi + Flamer for like, my first hundred or so levels on zealot

[dull iris]

am i right in thinking Wrath/Sweep and Rampage

[frozen kernel]

Didn't click with much else at launch but you can't beat the thematics of "big fuckin chain sword"

[jagged crag]

Then they nerfed it's movement (along with the heavy sword) so they would "stick" during attacks and wouldn't let you dodge around.
Then they released the mk15, which is braindead easy to use and does a gorillion more damage.

[dull iris]

actually sweep seems much better than wrath

[jagged crag]

Shred, Rampage, Perfect Strike.
Pick your combination based on your build.

[frozen kernel]

Oh Shred, not Wrath yeah

I forgot which stacking one it was

[dull iris]

they both stack

[frozen kernel]

Hence

"Which"

[dull iris]

oh i misread

[jagged crag]

Shred if you want Crits, Rampage for stacking damage, Perfect Strike for better follow-through and less sticking.

[frozen kernel]

Would you still say going crits for chain weapons is the way to go?

[jagged crag]

The Evi mk15 has a pretty good base crit profile, so for that weapon, it is viable.

When you use the lights to swing at head level through mobs, it's easy to score some crits.

[misty nova]

Because it is

That being said

[frozen kernel]

I gotta try Emp's Favor indulgence in mortis with evi zealot

[misty nova]

If you pick odds you don't need sweep or wrath

So go Shred Rampage

[frozen kernel]

With Arby it's hilarious when you do a single shield sweep and watch 3 enemies explode

[dull iris]

yeah that seems to be it

[misty nova]

Or don't go odds and go Shred Perfect Strike

[dull iris]

what do you mean odds btw

[misty nova]

Against The Odds

It's a talent

That stacks 10% cleave 5 times

[dull iris]

oh yeah, yeah i'm going with that too

[royal cape]

F i need vicious offering and second wind to swap places
Im trying to do a sweepy heavy evis build

[jagged crag]

Be warned, however, that Evis (last I checked) are capped at 4 cleave targets.

[dull iris]

wasn't that fixed

[frozen kernel]

I thought they removed the cleave limit before Arby?

[dull iris]

yeah

[jagged crag]

Hmm

I had heard rumors of that, but I wasn't sure.

[frozen kernel]

unfortunately they still get outsworded by the swords but

At least some of the pain was alleviated

[jagged crag]

The Powersword does more damage and cleave.

[frozen kernel]

Yeah relic was the final nail in the coffin

[jagged crag]

I seriously do not like how the Relic Blade feels.

[frozen kernel]

It's weird

I like it but I like Psyker's FGS more

[jagged crag]

FGS feels WAY better to use

[frozen kernel]

Also relic blade had the same issue Evi did

One mark was for winners, the other was meta

[jagged crag]

Mk3 Evi was perfect, though. It felt amazing to use.

[frozen kernel]

The moveset was so good

QQ meme aside

[jagged crag]

BACK IN THE DAY, a good Zealot was the one that was dancing with the Mk3 Evi.

[frozen kernel]

I hadn't played VT2 so the Evi Mk3 was really good for getting me into the rhythm of melee combat in Tide games

[queen yoke]

@wild apex for some reason this tiny fucking thing is the unstuck button

[frozen kernel]

I only ever played like a dozen or so hours of VT1 waaaaay back in the day

[jagged crag]

Push - Push Attack, Heavy, light, Heavy, Light

That fucking rotation

[frozen kernel]

Could also get 3 light horizontals after the PA Heavy

If you just wanted to go YAYAYAYA

[solar gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1231286447131328544/1421858408113504286/image.png?ex=68da9055&is=68d93ed5&hm=a6772fb7f0586151de040d4250e1d9d91008ffb28bc19de87777f145fcc47833&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

ts game

[bitter anvil]

New game made by Valve still have Valve community spirit

[frozen kernel]

It's crazy out there

Eastern Euros

So in a way, the Valve community spirit

[bitter anvil]

Look at tf2 community

Is diverse

[frozen kernel]

Furries, nazis, sometimes both

[bitter anvil]

And trans

[frozen kernel]

At the same time

[bitter anvil]

Lots of trans

[jagged crag]

Trans Furry Futas trying to own the libs

[bitter anvil]

And brony too

[frozen kernel]

THE BRONIES

Lost species

[royal cape]

I like how crit and backstab are on opposite sides
While bleed is just part of crit

[bitter anvil]

I got blocked by brony in tf2 mvm community discord server

[frozen kernel]

Truly the meme is playing MvM in 2025

Still feeding Valve those tickets

[solar gorge]

all communities are like this, tf2 just gives u the tools to flash ppl with porn so it looks 10x worse

[jagged crag]

To be fair, the original ONE ZEALOT BUILD was a result of them being on the same side

[bitter anvil]

When he said he going to die himself becuase nobody care his art (the mvm discord server doesn’t give a shit about many thing)

[solar gorge]

or with swastikas

you can put anything on that thing

valve doesn't moderate

istg if they removed all decals related items the game would improve

[frozen kernel]

Modern gaming could never handle the conscientious objector

[solar gorge]

instantly

[frozen kernel]

Too much power

Black Ops emblem creator was the beginning of the end

[bitter anvil]

My favorite Owner quote who run Mann vs Machine community (potato.tf)

[storm elm]

Pardon me frens

Does Unfaltering make Punishment redundant or am I misinterpreting their descriptions? It feels like they do the same thing but with Unfaltering not having requirements

[frozen kernel]

Remember baiting people in dark hallways with animated sprays?

Game Banana skins...for better or worse

[jagged crag]

Unfaltering requires more investment to get to at the bottom of the tree.

[potent shuttle]

been using it wit hthis build, relic blade

[bitter anvil]

Flashing me back image heavy shooting bullets hole decals text chat said “cover the hentai spray with bullets)

[jagged crag]

If you are running Marty, then Unfaltering is a better pick because it's on the way.
If you are running BP or IE, Punishment would be a better pick.

[gilded thorn]

what build would go well with it you think,
currently trying then marty build i use with evisc

[north sedge]

Punishment generally not worth running anyway

[bitter anvil]

Pyro case

[frozen kernel]

Yep

[jagged crag]

Punishment is often more of a bonus than a plan.

[lone matrix]

stealth zealot is fun

[jagged crag]

If you are picking up Benediction (which you normally are), you can grab Punishment on the way without needing to dickbutt into the Marty branch and possibly spend points you'd rather spend elsewhere

[lone matrix]

benedictio was the best of the three auras for my taste

and the note before was sweet attack speed

[royal cape]

You can still pick up the backstab/crit perks together
But you will be stretching the tp completely thin

[obtuse stirrup]

Martyrdom is the right way I think for sure

I'm still experimenting with new trees

but you need uninterruptible heavies as a priority

[lone matrix]

i tried evicerator after buff i still preffer the rgs

[obtuse stirrup]

How is On The Brink within martyrdom?

I can't tell if it's gonna be utter garbage or amazing

[potent shuttle]

i wonder if it works like arbie rebreather, you can just hang out in the green fog

[north sedge]

Would be very good there Yea

[obtuse stirrup]

Would it make a difference on havoc?

get less fucked by meme overheads?

[jagged crag]

I fucking swear, when I try to run a Thammer build for fun, I get teamed up with NOBODY that can deal with gunners and horde. Like the game is saying "Oh, you DON'T want to be the dedicated horde mulcher? Ya, about that..."

[lone matrix]

sneaks around and backstabs plasma gunners

[gilded thorn]

back bonk more like

[lone matrix]

hammer has okaish horde clear or Not

[obtuse stirrup]

@gilded thorn https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ffc89ca-665a-49a5-9a53-c4face633bb2 this is the current iteration I'm trying for my chain axe build

perks on gun are flak unarmoured

(please critique, anybody)

wasn't sure between blood redemption or vicious offering or both

no idea how good restorative verses is vs those two too

also wasn't sure what version of anti-stun to take

[north sedge]

Verses is a multiplier for your toughness gain

Doesn't give toughness on its own

[obtuse stirrup]

I presumed it was an always-take for martyrdom

but the wording on it makes it sound a lot weaker than the others idk

I guess the idea is that it makes the others stronger

so idk maybe I should drop anoint in blood, since it's never a problem for me to just shoot things twice

just figured it might make 1-shotting close range specials a bit more consistent

[glossy nimbus]

Yep

I wonder if valve regrets that

[primal scroll]

Also, whenever you dont run hammer, there are a million bosses and when you are, you get none

[obtuse stirrup]

hm might drop duelist for this too tbh

and just chomp all of those toughness regen talents from the middle of the top section except the ranged one

wow, it's nice having actual choices to make with this now

[ripe quest]

Main reason why premades are so strong is that you can specialize w/o gambling on teammates or needing a bunch of builds and hotswap in the loadout menu if you even get the chance

[ornate bone]

gamba

[gilded thorn]

mine's similar

[obtuse stirrup]

I've already iterated off of it but can't access my PC now to check lol

But only a few points shifted

[spare dome]

ur a smarty boi right

how do i fix texture streaming issues

i did all the easy google answers and none worked, mostly .ini edits

things will look like clay way longer than they need to

[ripe quest]

I turn my textures into paste, I wouldn't know. I'd make a forum post regarding the issue, https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/technical-issues/93.

[signal spoke]

What in the mordhau low texture is this

[spare dome]

Maximum performance

[spare dome]

They all lead to the same answers sadly

[deft badge]

Team Fortress 2 Tide

[spare dome]

I'll just tone them down I guess, I never had this problem when they were set to lower quality on my 1080

No point in higher quality textures if they look like clay

[ripe quest]

I mean making a post, describe the issue in detail and be clear with what hasn't worked.

[spare dome]

I miss Arco

[ripe quest]

Arco still exists he's just scared of people and a freak and scared of people

@south folio is this true

[modern carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-terrified-gif-10236982897096038637

[ripe quest]

y'know if you did that as fast as possible you could prob hit 10m damage

:)

[exotic plaza]

hong kong havoc party finder is truly the worst experience known to men

[jagged crag]

I always hear Hong Kong, but I don't know how many kongs are in a hong

[signal spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EunkRPRzECg quite a banger

I love that they are mocking the celebrities as skins

[sullen forge]

Man it really is like 2 weeks till BF6

I’m wondering if I should either play MP first just to get settled down with support

[jagged crag]

I need to get a suit and a haircut by then

[sullen forge]

Or Campaign on Hardest difficulty like I always do

[polar summit]

helo guys, what keystone is good for combat blade ?

[sullen forge]

All of them tbh

[exotic plaza]

piety

unsurprisingly knife is a finesse weapon

run flesh tearer + uncanny

[jagged crag]

BP and IJ are the normal ones.
Piety for letting you crit all over the place, IJ if you want a bit more damage on your big hits.

I personally use Piety

[hearty nebula]

silence tanner

https://tenor.com/view/shh-quiet-be-quiet-no-talking-avengers-gif-17875778

[sullen forge]

Piety, IJ

Those are like the two good choices

Martyr is still playable with it

[polar summit]

ic ic thanks guys ^^

[solar gorge]

i sound insane saying this but the campaign doesn't look too bad

[ripe quest]

Blazing Piety pairs best with weapons that have good crit mods, not just normal finesse weapons.

[solar gorge]

it might even be good

[carmine falcon]

Both
Gotta get that starting advantage on gah frfrfr

[sullen forge]

I never cared about the story too much

[polar summit]

oh another thing, what perk should i take ? i was thinking maybe crit chance and flak or cara or unyielding

[jagged crag]

Tanner isn't pushing Combat Blade for Zealot right now.
He's still pushing DS.

[sullen forge]

Just as long as it’s actually fun

[solar gorge]

yeah i meant the gameplay

it looks decent

[hearty nebula]

yeah ik which is funny because he's still wrong

[solar gorge]

with the squad shit and stuff

[exotic plaza]

yeah but bleed knife does good single target and do x3 time the horde clear of non bleed

[jagged crag]

Crit Chance and Unyielding is meta, but you can swap one out for Carapace if you want to focus more on Crushers and the like.

[carmine falcon]

It's insane with Marty for me cause u attack so fast

[hearty nebula]

ds never has been & never will be zealot's best weapon

[sullen forge]

It deeply upsets me he’s claiming he saved the Vigils

[carmine falcon]

Animation breaks

[hearty nebula]

didnt he do the same shit with ogryn lol

[exotic plaza]

delusional bigot femboy

[warped trellis]

cant wait for ridge 13 sniper spam 😍😍😍

[exotic plaza]

my favorite gender

[jagged crag]

I've been pushing "Vigilant Autoguns are shit" since launch.

[polar summit]

alrighty, thank youu

[carmine falcon]

This has to be a meme at this point cause he's not associated with play testers or devs

[hearty nebula]

sky is blue

more news at 5

[ripe quest]

bleed knife

[carmine falcon]

If anything he's just Targeting Reginald now and claiming fatshark only listens to him??? And that he's a shill

[solar gorge]

prime targets for my rpg

[carmine falcon]

Reginald the cult leader

All hail

[jagged crag]

Regi is a cool guy, though I don't watch his videos often

He's more fun to interact with during streams

[sullen forge]

Pot calling the kettle black

[ripe quest]

Crit chance as a perk does next to nothing, it is not meta.

[sullen forge]

Lmao

[carmine falcon]

I don't think the guy who's constantly calling the game balance out of wack is responsible for this current patch

But ok

[jagged crag]

My blunderstanding is to use it to get up to the crit cap

[solar gorge]

I placed a one million dollars bounty on the head of the mosquito in my room

up for grabs

[carmine falcon]

Hello I have 6 years of experience in exterminating mosquitoes in my room in Egypt

Hire me

I killed thousands

[jagged crag]

That somehow has the same vibe as "I killed millions to save hundreds"

[sullen forge]

If it bites your arm flex and cause that fucker to detonate

They want blood

Give them blood

And make them regret it

[solar gorge]

he took advantage of the fact that i was (dead)locked tf in to bite me

free blood

i was defenceless

[jagged crag]

I'm in a constantly state of flexing.

[sullen forge]

This is where I play Darktide if any of you were wondering

[carmine falcon]

I saved my family

[frosty herald]

pretty good way for fatshark to enforce their blacklist

[chrome wave]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-jumping-jumping-cat-gif-6664873846608164969

roomies!!!

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850857508389519430/1295484398187319356/drop-your-collection-of-gordon-holding-various-things-i-v0-j8xqjg2bc4ib1.gif

[jagged crag]

I'm done playing Zealot today.
Arby or Orgyn?

[formal umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/buzzwole-poses-gif-7645556

It backfired

[jagged crag]

(that spelling was intentional)

[formal umbra]

This mf is in my room now

[sullen forge]

PSYCHWARD TIDE!!!!!

[formal umbra]

PSYCH WARD TIDE!!!

[chrome wave]

PSYCHWARD TIDE!!!!!

[frosty herald]

PSYCHWARD TIDE!!!!!

[sullen forge]

I live in these if any of you guys were wondering btw

[violet hornet]

cozy

[formal umbra]

just like the good old days on vraks

[stone fern]

CARtide

its a racing game

but its just traffic

[sullen forge]

Darktide Kart

[long oasis]

run over the pedestrians

[sullen forge]

Who would you play out of the cast of characters

[long oasis]

hording

[sullen forge]

I would play Scab Bomber

[signal spoke]

Kartide

[spare dome]

I'd be Mutie

[formal umbra]

Rinda

[drifting wolf]

scab mauler

[violet hornet]

Kart Tide

[frosty herald]

Def mauler

[jagged crag]

Fartide

[exotic plaza]

yeah

this game so ass man

[bitter anvil]

Is ass, uninstall, file refund request

[exotic plaza]

cant

[bitter anvil]

Keep the despair then

[exotic plaza]

also holy shit backstab hitbox detection is ass

[remote holly]

Then stop playing

[stone fern]

those peegunners are no joke

[exotic plaza]

theyre so ass in havoc fr

[north sedge]

on perfect blocking oncoming traffic, gain +10% crosswalk speed

[exotic plaza]

i just have a game with a psyker that isnt running pa like what the fuck is wrong with you

[stone fern]

CALCULATED

i think the game registered the damage from both lmao

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-wreck-destroyed-joe-black-meet-joe-black-gif-17777331

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-fur-kawaii-sniff-canine-gif-20552016

[inland dust]

I tried out that 1 shot stealth hammer build going around

Holy moly there's no way this doesn't get nerfed right? Lol

[stone fern]

nahhhh its fine

[inland dust]

1 shots demonhosts before they even wake up lmfaooo

[jagged crag]

Why would they nerf something that is fairly niche?

[sullen forge]

Welcome back SF Thammer

[jagged crag]

1-shotting a sleeping DH isn't going to solo win a game.

[sullen forge]

It does 80% bosses which is insane

[violet hornet]

fatshark, delete stealth for zealot and my life is yours

[jagged crag]

But keep the shitty version of stealth of Vets.

[sullen forge]

Hell it one shot a captain in H32

[signal spoke]

Why nobody told me that they added a flashbang enemy holy shit

[sullen forge]

Female zealot named “Woman”

[rain knoll]

Does flanking atk including both left and right side of enemies?

[signal spoke]

They are so fucking silent

You would not even see or hear them from the clip before they start shooting

[glossy nimbus]

This game is already so fucking hard to see

[stone fern]

I dont want any named character buffs

[glossy nimbus]

This isn't fucking payday 2 why did they add them dude

[hearty nebula]

see betterer

smh my head

[frosty herald]

Thammer is back in its rightful place

[stone fern]

🚬 thammer tourist

[glossy nimbus]

Can you backshot captains when they got their shield up

[frosty herald]

I used thammer since launch clad please shut

[signal spoke]

Why you say smh my head? Smh stands for shake my head

[glossy nimbus]

shake my hand

[stone fern]

you werent even alive during launch

[hearty nebula]

yeah

i know

thats the whole point

[jagged crag]

I only use Thammer when it gets some traction, then immediately stop using it again.

[hearty nebula]

nooboid

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204848159088709652/1361937564491317268/RDT_20250408_1508584171880868205358787.gif

[glossy nimbus]

thammer needs a buff in horde clear or smth.

[glossy nimbus]

hot

[signal spoke]

I fell for the bait

[jagged crag]

I always thought smh meant slap my horse, and everyone just lived on a ranch

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/abiotic-factor-abioticfactor-coworker-coffeehole-coffee-gif-3535888676542999836

[jagged crag]

Liver King also likes coffee in his coffee hole...

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138164846605648055/1363930230762246226/togif.gif

[solar gorge]

car

[winter steppe]

That’s some anti-zealot behavior right there pal

[hearty nebula]

are u sure

i see lots of dog features on it

like

eyes

and fur

[violet hornet]

Nah hiding from the enemy is anti zealot behavior

[hearty nebula]

and schnoze

and ears

[sullen forge]

Clad brags about new Thammer buff like a nerf won’t send him back to coping about the Ironhelm

[jagged crag]

"Hiding" and "Setting up for the perfect killing blow' are two different things.

[winter steppe]

Setting up funny boss backstabs is peak zealot behavior.

[violet hornet]

Smashing daemonhosts in the face with FotF is better

[hearty nebula]

i love boss backshots!!!!

oneshots

that is

[winter steppe]

Fair, fury is funny.

[violet hornet]

You should be rewarded for fighting them head on NGL

Although we should get a reward for killing daemonhosts to begin with

[hearty nebula]

yeah you do it's called dodge their fucking attacks and they'll die instead of you

unless it's a beast of nurgle in which case uhhh

tough shit lol

[violet hornet]

Burgle easy to dodge

[hearty nebula]

unless you have more than 80-90 ping

in which case the game completely shits itself

[violet hornet]

Just say no to barf

[jagged crag]

Meleeing a Beast of Nurgle is like watching a cat get into a fight with a cat tunnel

[violet hornet]

Skill issue tbh

[carmine falcon]

U don't have the muscle memory to give mfs back shots so stealth feels so weird to me

[hearty nebula]

i just wish it wasn't so abysmally slow

[jagged crag]

I swear the back of the damn thing doesn't even trigger weakspot hits half the time.

[carmine falcon]

Me
For some reason I get 70-100 ping and when it goes 90 and above it's just desync Central

[winter steppe]

Grut, forgot to crop my permanently borrowed meme

Lmao

[winter steppe]

Yeah burgles are annoying like that

Hate burgles

[hearty nebula]

stupid dogs

[silk egret]

does anyone know how the martyrdom toughness regen node works?

[tulip gulch]

whenever you replenish toughness from any source its increased by 5% for each stack

[silk egret]

that seems bad...

[tulip gulch]

no lmao

[vague depot]

How’s the new changes to zealot

[tulip gulch]

its +25% to everything

[placid fiber]

it's a toughness generation multiplier >.>

[ripe quest]

It plus the TDR on Martyrdom doubles effective toughness gen.

[winter steppe]

It’s peak pal

[vague depot]

Magnificent

[ripe quest]

Some stuff was overtuned, a few things still need to be looked at, but the highlight is the pathing is def better than prior.

Making a pre-patch build is like 22 points

[vague depot]

Rad

[silk egret]

damage gating on twins makes me cry with thammer

can't oneshot

[ripe quest]

1 shot them with Chaxe

[tulip gulch]

i would honestly be impressed if they somehow managed to fuck up the reworked talent tree to be worse than it was

[winter steppe]

The Build™️ is dead! Long live the Build™️.

[placid fiber]

same

[ripe quest]

I'll make sure to sneak in the most awful and hideous changes next time.

[tulip gulch]

that would honestly be an irl achievement

[placid fiber]

Yeah lol

[hearty nebula]

multiplicative

not additive

it's dogshit

[void bison]

have you megabonked

[vague depot]

Damn they shot iod

Only 100% now

[tulip gulch]

its not

[hearty nebula]

because it is

[hearty nebula]

iunno chief looks kinda shit to me

[placid fiber]

I haven't played darktide since the update x.x

Just haven't gamed in a while

[hearty nebula]

martyrdom getting a complete refresh almost and then they give you 2 nodes that are essentially worthless is fucking abysmally stupid

[placid fiber]

at least they made ewew good again

[vague depot]

What’s that

[hearty nebula]

ewew good now is great

i like it

[void bison]

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[placid fiber]

enemies within enemies without

[vague depot]

Alright

[placid fiber]

I've seen that before I think

[glad ermine]

yeah seems to be picking up quite some traction

[placid fiber]

I blame Ainz

[jagged crag]

The Ketchup company?

Oh that's Heinz

[placid fiber]

OH u rite

[glad ermine]

@mighty root btw, i ran a few havocs and auric maels with both evisc blessing variations we talked about, was unaware that the H1 on the mk2 evisc lost its eviscerating abilities on perfect strike crit, that's where it gets good and very understandable to take. On average bl did give more crits but not enough to back that up vs me doing H1 into a pack of maulers w perfect strike for example, this was more prevalent in havoc

[glad ermine]

wait till you hear about hellmann's

[placid fiber]

[glossy nimbus]

mk2 is the one with two wide swings yeah?

[mighty root]

[glad ermine]

i am a man of my word

[glad ermine]

yeah vanguard heavies strikedown lights

i get why people like mk15

but mk2 feels more natural to me

and that horizontal heavy is actually great

in quite a few scenarios

[jagged crag]

The Mk3 has a more fun moveset

[glad ermine]

oh its mk3? i can never remember much

[jagged crag]

ye

[glad ermine]

yeah indeed

same goes for rb

[jagged crag]

I actually don't like the RB movesets

[glad ermine]

mk10 was too basic for my liking

i LOVE the uppercuts

[jagged crag]

Any of them

They all feel like butt to me

Evi Mk3 is peak moveset for me

[glad ermine]

i can kinda see that yeah

rb feels clunky sometimes but with how IJ is well

it goes just fine

thank god for that new attack speed on PA talent too

i appreciate the extra speed

[jagged crag]

Also, going to say it:
Arby seems to have replace Zealot for having players that just storm ahead and don't help

[mighty root]

You can also use bistol or bolter with tknife to get crit rolling

[glad ermine]

yeah have noticed b4

but i do like my flamer w zealot

i feel more like

well

a zealot

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-find-you-i-will-convert-you-where-are-you-looking-for-you-nun-gif-26333809

[mighty root]

Yeah flamer is pretty good

[glad ermine]

anyways not like there are any complaints

zealot just got easier this patch so

[mighty root]

Especially when they throw 12 ragers, maulers, and bulwarks

[glossy nimbus]

wait is mk2, mk3 or 15?

[glad ermine]

i blame advertisement. new player buys game -> hears everyone say arb op arb op -> buys arb -> thinks they are the reincarnation of cato sicarius

[glad ermine]

the one i use is mk3

mk15 is heavy strikedown

[glossy nimbus]

which one loses evisorating on perfect crit?

[glad ermine]

mk3's heavy

[glossy nimbus]

ah.

[glad ermine]

idea is simple

[jagged crag]

Wait wait wait

[glad ermine]

if you either have enough crit or have fury ready and have many carapace units ahead

u just h1

and hit everything

[jagged crag]

Does Plasma spam from enemies just cut through stealthed Zealots trying to get to them?

[hearty nebula]

im getting real fucking sick of whatever bug is making it so people can't join ya

[mighty root]

Should it has a lot of cleave

[jagged crag]

I just died out of the blue while stealthed and the only thing I can think is plasma spam

[mighty root]

Oh like enemies?

Idk

They should ignore you

Don’t run in the line of fire

[placid fiber]

loin lol

[glad ermine]

something weird happened to me with psyker yesterday. i was at 100% peril, intentionally using m2 again to shriek right after, dog jumps at me the moment i reach 100%, then i blow up immediately with no animation

i blame it on morrow probably

[jagged crag]

I was picked up, stealthed, no fire, instantly died

No idea why

[long oasis]

the hsword carapace adm just needs to be not as insane then it would be fine

[winter steppe]

Heart attack, clearly, pal

[long oasis]

it can be at a state where its not good at killing carapace but it can do it in a reasonable timeframe

[latent violet]

Hi guys, I'm new to the game and hit Zealot level 30, does anyone know any good updated Zealot builds?

[glad ermine]

guy was picked up, are we surprised

[tropic egret]

I heard a psyker on my team recently say there's a bug with psyker that might cause them to spontaneously die. Maybe it's the same as what you're talking about, dunno

[glad ermine]

think up of weapons and playstyle you'd like first, it always helps people make builds for you

[glad ermine]

this is like the 2nd time this patch, i dunno man

but uh

i guess no 100% peril near dogs?

[thorn atlas]

get gud

[latent violet]

I use the Heavy sword and the Shredder autopistol

[thorn atlas]

(I made a joke I know him)

[latent violet]

Begone ogryn main

[glossy nimbus]

I've seen psykers pop more often lately.

[mighty root]

It’s cuz you play stealth

[jagged crag]

I miss Loner

[mighty root]

What weapons do you use?

[glossy nimbus]

No u dont

[mighty root]

Bait!

[latent violet]

I use the Heavy sword and the Shredder autopistol

[mighty root]

Die!!!!!!!

[mighty root]

Good choices sounds like non crit one moment

[hard nexus]

it doesnt lose it, the sawing happens on unrevved H1 when it runs out of cleave, and perfect strike multiplies cleave by 4x

[glossy nimbus]

Isn't heavy sword just a more useless devil claw.

[long oasis]

you dont miss loner. you miss a simpler time where crushers didnt have 6k hp

[long oasis]

better devils claw

[glossy nimbus]

tf you even do w it dawg

[long oasis]

they share the same moveset but hsword does significantly more damage across the board

[glossy nimbus]

It has nothing

[mighty root]

Nah

What

That’s silly

[long oasis]

its actually pretty good against basically everything

except carapace

[mighty root]

It’s good against Cara

[long oasis]

no

[glossy nimbus]

The low damage though

[mighty root]

Uses fury

[mighty root]

Yarp

[long oasis]

without fury

[glossy nimbus]

Are you the type of people who enjoy suffering

[long oasis]

16 sec for crusher kill in h40

[north sedge]

hsword is much better than dclaw

[mighty root]

Yeah without you cope

[long oasis]

makes me want to be the crusher after I can see his skull poking out because I hit him in the head 30+ times

[north sedge]

hsword can kill 5 mid range elites in a swing, it's pretty stupid

[hard nexus]

hsword is amazing

it’s very strong

[glossy nimbus]

Guess I need to use it more

[glad ermine]

ah, so a pseudo non evisc

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda22ad-68a6-4234-8df3-7fea5a87a024/terrible-non-crit-zealot-build heavy sword is headtaker deathblow, flak maniac, dump cleave targets or defense, auto pistol is flak maniac, blaze away pinning fire, dump collateral, use this build

[long oasis]

why is it called heavy sword if it cant even penetrate carapace armor

the vostroyans are stupid idiots

[jagged crag]

I honestly don't mind the Crusher HP

Also, I miss Loner just because it pissed people off so much

It was really not a good aura, but man, it drove people nuts

[glossy nimbus]

lol