still mid
#zealot-class
mighty root
plush estuary
winter oxide
damn im resubbing
mighty root
damn im resubbing
i wouldn't his zealot build is terrible
winter oxide
ik i was joking
long oasis
thinking about it is it even worth it to take good balance alongside shield
mighty root
guh
mighty root
thinking about it is it even worth it to take good balance alongside shield
id take it over shield
sullen forge
The war criminal has died
winter oxide
is zealous even useful anywhere
mighty root
is zealous even useful anywhere
whats that do again
winter oxide
-15% stam usage aura
long oasis
-15 stam
if you really want dance of death and dont care about faithful frenzy then maybe
mighty root
its good but better pathing with beni
misty nova
-15% stam usage aura
-15% of anything that costs stamina
It's decent
Is it impactful?
Not really
winter oxide
maybe blocking crusher overheads
north sedge
thats just hsword cara performance
long oasis
I think it might be a little better than before
long oasis
yea
carmine lance
Thanks, i ended up playing with a friend I haven’t seen in like a year lol
runic grotto
Is it impactful?
Not really
I run this aura with any push attack weapon
evis, knifes, crusher
It's good
I really like this aura
long oasis
the fact that prime target doesnt stack is a travesty
why does confirmed kill get to stack
long oasis
https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it%27s-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white...
yah or nah
ripe quest
yah or nah
Lot of this could be different based on weapon. Main notes are Blinded by Blood under Scourge is really good, Blood Redemption and Unfaltering may not be worth it based on melee weapon, Restoring Faith and Bleed for the Emperor give you stacking health increases (BftE is 1.66x health assuming it procs, adding RF that is 2.083x health).
gleaming furnace
is ij good with relic blade ?
runic grotto
Lot of this could be different based on weapon. Main notes are Blinded by Blood ...
BftE and RF are good percs is they weren't near martyrdom
doubling 20 health is not that useful
candid cloud
zealot compendia deleting comment saying DR doesn't have diminishing returns instead of correcting 😔
long oasis
Lot of this could be different based on weapon. Main notes are Blinded by Blood ...
I copied over my thammer build for heavy sword I think I can get a lot value from redemption and unfaltering
ashen saffron
https://i.vgy.me/2qfr2j.png
no invis?
ripe quest
BftE and RF are good percs is they weren't near martyrdom
Doubling your health gives you more control over health loss which is really nice on Martyrdom, RF assists with chip and both make larger hits half as punishing.
ripe quest
I copied over my thammer build for heavy sword I think I can get a lot value fro...
@plush estuary Fix this. You get more out of each successive curio DR perk, not less.
Wrong reply LMAO
reef plaza
John spreadsheet what be thy wisdom
ripe quest
smh my head discord needs to kill me with hammers if I reply to someone
ripe quest
John spreadsheet what be thy wisdom
uh have fun and drink water often
reef plaza
ripe quest
also automating tasks in spreadsheets is almost always possible and saves exponential amounts of time the larger the task is and that can be put on a resume 
candid cloud
<@665740726474375168> Fix this. You get more out of each successive curio DR per...
I've kinda become a full believer that games should express DR as EHP like league does w/ armor bc otherwise people just don't get it
ripe quest
I've kinda become a full believer that games should express DR as EHP like leagu...
my thought too. Like a "20% DR (1.25x effective health)" addition or smth.
candid cloud
expressed via armor gunner res would read "+25/+31.25/+39 Armor vs gunners" per curio
each one you run gives more armor than the previous one did
total Armor being 25/56.25/95.3
visual stream
why does confirmed kill get to stack
Veteran is finally Fatshark's favorite child
As it was always meant to be
(ogryn and arby still solos I'm just jealous)
hexed igloo
Ogryn is the malnourished child in the broom closet
ripe quest
expressed via armor gunner res would read "+25/+31.25/+39 Armor vs gunners" per ...
mm, if it were displayed as "+25%/+31.25%/+39%" it could be confused with the first being 25%, the 1st + 2nd being 31.25%, and all three being 39%, still miscommunicating a diminishing returns. I do think just having the multiplier it gives would work, since it's universal (an 80% DR is always 5x effective health, no matter the previous DR/health as an example) and if you say that it stacks it's easy to connect the dots.
ripe quest
Always was, they just never gave Psyker a new staff so it was cleverly disguised as pure hatred.
winter steppe
The grind is almost over 
then I can return to thammer zealot my beloved ❤️🔥
As well as return to complaining about no new content
magic basin
what even is the point of farming this
swift hearth
The grind is almost over <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> then I can return to ...
damn it's only been 3 days
swift hearth
Always was, they just never gave Psyker a new staff so it was cleverly disguised...
what other ideas are there anyway
giant warp laser
ripe quest
what other ideas are there anyway
For staves? Quite a few. Not even all the staff mechanics from VT2 are in Darktide.
swift hearth
ripe quest
There are some crazier ideas available too but idk if GW would allow stuff like "fun" or "cool"
swift hearth
For staves? Quite a few. Not even all the staff mechanics from VT2 are in Darkti...
aight a staff that throws an ogryn into a crowd
i do realize creativity has never been my strong suit
long oasis
Lot of this could be different based on weapon. Main notes are Blinded by Blood ...
I played a few games and idk if blinded by blood is good for heavy sword on marty; I dont trigger crits often enough for it to justifably matter on most elites and the only time I could see it being that useful is on bosses. Im gonna take prime target even though its stinky
also swapped unfaltering for RF
winter steppe
what even is the point of farming this
I literally have nothing else to work towards 
all penances done
And thanks to the current state of the job market, I have too much free time as well
winter steppe
Sounds like a slog pal
misty nova
Couldn't even break 2k before hand
misty nova
Sounds like a slog pal <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Just 36 minutes
And like
2 teammates died
winter steppe
Ah not too bad
misty nova
10 minutes without them
hexed igloo
Did u guys know that here there's snacks called rashuns they're pretty baller
misty nova
We even got some DH in the mix
hexed igloo
Probably more suited for og chat tho
misty nova
Ugh too ugly
Lemme crop that
Oh just noticed that I have Odds
💀
With perfect strike
💀
How the hell is Bloodthirsty with higher uptime than Pstrike though
Shouldn't they be the same
misty nova
Oh just noticed that I have Odds
Tbf I killed more targets than odds could keep up with
Something to think about
I was also listening to some metal
So my performance was poor
swift hearth
Did u guys know that here there's snacks called rashuns they're pretty baller
i enjoy nasty shit like pig ears and tripe
hexed igloo
i enjoy nasty shit like pig ears and tripe
I like chocolate and bacon you weird asf for that bro
Freak
If you were sitting across from me I would have lunged over the table at you and one hand choked you for a couple seconds
swift hearth
I like chocolate and bacon you weird asf for that bro
good stuff
crunchy and zesty with hot sauce
hexed igloo
I bet you'd drink the brine from pickled pig feet you degenerate
flat marsh
I heard feet???
swift hearth
I bet you'd drink the brine from pickled pig feet you degenerate
you just eat the pig feet and toss the brine in the dishwasher
somber tiger
what's the "relic blade"? I dont see it anywhere in my available weapons as zealot
hexed igloo
Do you think the brine is a container of some form
swift hearth
what's the "relic blade"? I dont see it anywhere in my available weapons as zeal...
check brunt's armoury
somber tiger
im there
flat marsh
https://tenor.com/view/nurgle-warhammer-chaos-gif-20220216
Me after not brushing my teeth for a week
swift hearth
Do you think the brine is a container of some form
no it's the vinegary crap
swift hearth
Me after not brushing my teeth for a week
my dentist like "damn, but no cavities"
hexed igloo
Bro doesn't know how to make brine 💀 💀 💀
misty nova
hexed igloo
why can i not share pictures? 🤔
misty nova
🗣️
somber tiger
theres the force sword and force greatsword
median steeple
ngl I was expecting you to insta die walking up to it
swift hearth
I bet you'd drink the brine from pickled pig feet you degenerate
pickling the trotters really a waste though
misty nova
lol
swift hearth
just cook it in a soup or put it in an air fryer
somber tiger
oh shit you're right yeah, im on my psyker though
misty nova
lol
hexed igloo
just cook it in a soup or put it in an air fryer
Nah cos it means you can suck them dry and then air fry them
swift hearth
Nah cos it means you can suck them dry and *then* air fry them
fresh off of the barnyard
somber tiger
ooooh it's a zealot weapon, nvm im dumb
hexed igloo
Psyker has twig arms you can't expect em to be able to use a greatsword
swift hearth
Psyker has twig arms you can't expect em to be able to use a greatsword
except they have one
misty nova
hexed igloo
Misinformation
There's no sword for psyker
Ps5 has no games and psyker has no sword
swift hearth
Ps5 has no games and psyker has no sword
hazy kite
Psyker got all the brain swords
hexed igloo
Why would you need a melee weapon when crystalline will exists now
You have your very own bomb vest
runic grotto
Why would you need a melee weapon when crystalline will exists now
You don't
ripe quest
How the hell is Bloodthirsty with higher uptime than Pstrike though
Bloodthirsty lasts until your next swing and during it, perfect strike only lasts for the duration of the swing that procced it.
violet hornet
Why would you need a melee weapon when crystalline will exists now
force sword and spam special to build peril to trigger it
hexed igloo
No
long oasis
traumer staff
hexed igloo
Brain burst spam
long oasis
and then cast it directly under your feet
hexed igloo
I'm going to make a build optimized for suicide bombing
runic grotto
It's a crit for a single attack
candid cloud
mm, if it were displayed as "+25%/+31.25%/+39%" it could be confused with the fi...
oh yeah I wasn't suggesting an in-game description per se. Just saying 1.25x EHP would be good. I just meant "first curio gives 25, second gives an additional 31, etc."
runic grotto
Why not just take shred?
glossy nimbus
long oasis
dad?
glossy nimbus
Dad.
runic grotto
but shred is a lot of crits
misty nova
Wdym
BT is a lot of crits
You know
I think I see your gambling mindset
Just guarantee the crit
runic grotto
A guaranteed a crit after I already killed something
And I don't get a lot of crits while just killing chaff
runic grotto
but that means I'm swinging less
misty nova
Nope
runic grotto
Revving for every single attack
misty nova
You still gotta swing
runic grotto
That's so much
misty nova
Yeah that's the efficient way of playing Evis15
You rev for everything
Everything
And I mean
Everything
flint sable
The start of my new build I think paired with a flammer
runic grotto
You rev for everything
So your gameplay is rev > attack > rev > attack > rev > attack > rev > attack
misty nova
Or I could have 100% CRIT and kill everything
median steeple
pale olive
best nodes for tough regen?
misty nova
Crushers included
runic grotto
best nodes for tough regen?
second wind
plush estuary
best nodes for tough regen?
EWEW with any keystone that buffs toughness, 2nd wind is a good toughness gen without a combo talent
flat marsh
We had two sticks and a rock
And we had to share the rock
runic grotto
You can get something else
pale olive
then i just need to get good
plush estuary
https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-12450451651611168773
runic grotto
Or I could have 100% CRIT and kill everything
Or I could have 25% crit and do twice as many attacks
median steeple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1421578044342009976/G...
blue now
plush estuary
misty nova
Or I could have 25% crit and do twice as many attacks
And get no crits
Because 25% ain't shit
100>25
It's that shrimple
misty nova
Oh so I don't need shred
See
Because Fotf is 100%
And not 25
Once again
100>25
BT wins
runic grotto
100 would be > 25 if it didn't require wasting an attack like BT does
But 25 free > 100 for less attacking
misty nova
I refuse to believe that you don't know simple math
And you know that 100>25
Why are you lying to me
😭
runic grotto
You are literally trolling
misty nova
What I'm not
runic grotto
You are literally trolling
misty nova
You're the one that just said 25>100
runic grotto
You are literally trolling
runic grotto
25 for free is better than 100 for a price
runic grotto
The price is an attack
misty nova
Yeah like you don't need to attack for shred
5 times btw
For 25
While BT is just 1
misty nova
Bro thinks Evis15 struggles with rev
But sure man
25>100
And 5 attacks> 1 attack
runic grotto
exactly
gleaming furnace
ok but what if you did that and perfect strike ?
runic grotto
5 attacks > 1 attack
misty nova
misty nova
And you are not guaranteed to get a kill with an attack
Wdym
What can survive a rev from evi15
I'm genuinely asking
C'mon
Answer mle
runic grotto
uh, a crusher
glossy nimbus
Off to dinner
You what to dinner?
runic grotto
not if you don't use fotf
misty nova
Crusher dead
Trying again
Exactly
Only bosses survive a rev from evi15
Literally everything else dies
runic grotto
I think bulwarks also won't die
runic grotto
maulers will survive probably if you hit their head
misty nova
Dead
misty nova
Even deader
runic grotto
I am literally gonna test this right now
misty nova
🛌
tulip gulch
https://tenor.com/view/off-game-judge-off-rpg-sparkle-on-gif-1615304723170791352...
Omg judge from hit game off
swift hearth
maulers don't die
sees a sliver of health gone
it can be killed
misty nova
Nah this Convo ain't going nowhere
Actually
It went nowhere
So I'm just going to drop it
Anyways dinner is ready
Anyone wants coffee and steak?
runic grotto
I hate coffee
misty nova
Eh
Don't like it without sugar
But too much sugar ruins it
It's about that perfect balance
Sweet
But bitter
long oasis
drinkt ea
bitter anvil
Chinese tea or British tea?
long oasis
I am drinkin git right now
dont drink gits
misty nova
https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-miles-morales-i-love-chai-tea-chai-tea-tea-gif-4537088392959266195
long oasis
Chinese tea or British tea?
earl grey
runic grotto
Chinese tea or British tea?
I don't know
Tea has contry of origin?
I just know it's black tea
and green tea
long oasis
certain styles of tea preparation have a country of origin
like oolong
but they all taste the same because its tea
runic grotto
I have tea bags and actual tea
long oasis
I cant taste the difference honestly
bitter anvil
Tea has contry of origin?
Chinese tea is the origin
runic grotto
tea bags are way easier and faster to make
long oasis
how many bags per cup
bitter anvil
British took some Chinese tea seed and plant there
long oasis
for maximum caffeinage
runic grotto
bags?
misty nova
Oh
runic grotto
like, one tea bag
long oasis
what if you just made it in a pot so you can have it for later
runic grotto
someone uses more per cup?
misty nova
@plush estuary
With Abolish Blasphemers you don't need unarmored for 1 heavy dreg gunner head on the evis15
runic grotto
what if you just made it in a pot so you can have it for later
well, that's how I make it usually
long oasis
I know someone who does
runic grotto
I made tea inside the kettle before
Throw in some sugar, like 4 tea bags and turn it on
Come back tea is ready
long oasis
om nom nom
misty ravine
These things are great if you want a lot of tea
runic grotto
These things are great if you want a lot of tea
YEEES
That's exactly what I have
But it works with a normal kettle too, I tried
misty nova
Ok with Blasphemers you don't need Unyielding for 1 Rev body bulwarks
Yeah I don't what perks go on evis15 for maximum efficiency
misty nova
Maybe flak for 1 heavy scab gunner head
runic grotto
and for 4 it's for sure flak carapace
misty nova
Ok it's probably flak
1 heavy scab gunner head
1 Rev reapers body
Although you can just rev for both
runic grotto
After the buffs
I am in love with evis 4
Wait, it's not 4
It's 3
close enough
mighty root
@spare talon do you like no respite with tac axe bp? It’s the stam on crit
misty nova
1 heavy scab gunner head
Yeah
lament blaze
How is the new boltgun mark?
runic grotto
not amazing
misty nova
Mediocre
runic grotto
it's okay at best
It's slower
less damage
less ammo
but you get a bit of AoE and a lot of stagger
lament blaze
Ow.
Is it at least amazing at dealing with large amounts of bulwarks?
runic grotto
I think you can instantly unlock them by shooting with it at their feet
lament blaze
That's something at least.. Throwing knives nerfed? I think they always one shot dogs before on auric
lament blaze
Always been that way? I guess I'm misremembering
Their heads are huge though so thats usually what you hit anyway
runic grotto
I don't remember them one bodyshotting dogs ever
misty nova
That's something at least.. Throwing knives nerfed? I think they always one shot...
Nothing really changed about it (that we know)
However Scab gunner hp got buffed so we have the confirmation that you can't 1 shot headshot them
Unless
You have flak on your weapon when you throw the knife
lament blaze
Nothing really changed about it (that we know)
However Scab gunner hp got buffed...
Danggggggg
runic grotto
There are not many weapons where you don't take flak
So I guess it's fine
slight nerf
lament blaze
I think I still have crit chance cara on my ds from the olden times
runic grotto
the bigger nerf is them not being non optional so you can take literally anything else now
bitter anvil
These things are great if you want a lot of tea
I have that
Me and family used to brew tea 2 day later
And stop consuming tea
void bison
I'm crying rn this writing has me so emotional i'm sobbing holy shit leon please don't die on me
misty nova
I'm crying rn this writing has me so emotional i'm sobbing holy shit leon please...
Lmfao
I really didn't care much about characters death on dl2
neat hatch
thanks i love it
ripe quest
meat is now finished
needs another hour in the oven
maybe even two
should be charcoal black
hearty nebula
it goes into fridge
overnight
shred tomorrow
and then back into oven after i put lemon juice over it
because it's 11:20 pm and im not fuckin cookin anything else today
void bison
I really didn't care much about characters death on dl2
the death of her shoes is making me cry again
oh wait
hearty nebula
maybe even two
also why would i do that, it's already cooked all the way through
void bison
ripe quest
also why would i do that, it's already cooked all the way through
three more hours
needs to be black
like charcoal
ripe quest
four hours
hearty nebula
ur going into an oven for 12
ripe quest
turn oven into pizza oven by turning the meat into blazing coals
hearty nebula
turns u into pizza
and puts pineapple on u
with mushrooms
and bbq sauce
with sardines
void bison
mushrooms are one of the greatest of toppings
hearty nebula
i only like 1 type of mushroom n they r a pain in the ass to get
hearty nebula
morels are my beloved
soak 'em
pound the suckers flat
bread n' fry em
they're delicious
misty ravine
Dry them and add them to sauces
There was a yuge forest fire near my city when I was a kid, the next spring we picked several buckets worth and had dried morels for literally years and I never got tired of them
lunar fable
mushrum 🍄🟫
hearty nebula
There was a yuge forest fire near my city when I was a kid, the next spring we p...
damn... smokey the bear was a bitch ass liar
trying to keep me from getting morels
i gotta start some forest fires next year ig
hearty nebula
oooo are they spongy
meaty
they're mushrooms
like idk how to describe the texture of a morel but thy're like
squidgy
but firm
ripe quest
and puts pineapple on u
Would you be the pineapple to my pizza 
hearty nebula
no because ur a meanie
misty ravine
If the texture of mushrooms puts you off, there's another reason to dry them (on top of preserving them and enhancing the flavor). Chop them fine or even grind them to powder then if you want
ripe quest
no because ur a meanie
sorry that I'm an ashchud but I swear the pizza oven that results from burning like 3 pounds of meat for several hours would be really not great, probably not even edible, but nobody has done it before
misty ravine
oooo are they spongy
Yes, but less than you'd think. The spongy part is shallow and the inside is hollow
hearty nebula
yeah thats why u smash em flat after u soak em
or
we did at least
idk how other folks do it
misty ravine
We just washed the dirt off them and dried them whole (probably because we had so many) and I've just kinda continued doing that. Rehydrate and chop them roughly like any other mushroom when I go to cook with them
misty ravine
I remember soaking them, not overnight though
hearty nebula
not much done past that because drying them was a bitch so it was always just a very like
seasonal thing
no saving them for winter etc
swift hearth
Yes, but less than you'd think. The spongy part is shallow and the inside is hol...
Try sea sponge and sea cucumbers in soup
void bison
mermaid meal
swift hearth
Crunchy spongy, tasteless, but if you can make a good soup that's zesty and gravy it's good
But easily overcooked, there's that
They get soggy instead of crunchy if you drop them in too early or leave the pot boiling and just go "eh I'll just leave for 20 extra minutes"
Oh and they do need to be soaked thoroughly overnight in the fridge
plush estuary
https://i.imgur.com/bRDy9sZ.png
180 degreesn opposite to where they are facing
inner crane
sullen forge
Spy TF2 Hitbox basically
median steeple
swift hearth
https://i.imgur.com/bRDy9sZ.png
hitting from the side like starboard and port
i think they made it more forgiving cuz seldom do people do back hits during a horde rush, and not everyone is getting invisi. cloak
median steeple
swift hearth
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693362593758445608/1421732523251208222/3o...
🦔
misty nova
That's sprint dodge
sullen forge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/693362593758445608/1421732523251208222/3o...
the wolf within
median steeple
sullen forge
Bisexuality
hexed igloo
Every time I see that crane gets darker and darker which implies he's further back how long is bros arm
hexed igloo
180 is their back exactly
*360
runic grotto
360 is their face
hexed igloo
No that'd be 720
runic grotto
720 is their face again
runic grotto
You are right
mighty root
@plush estuary can i have your help with a build?
hexed igloo
Eh sometimes even a master fisherman loses his catch
runic grotto
<@665740726474375168> can i have your help with a build?
you can have my help with a build
mighty root
you can have my help with a build
swift hearth
720 is their face again
irl people when they be like "why did you do a 180 on me"
bro if i do a one 180 i face you again
runic grotto
runic grotto
irl people when they be like "why did you do a 180 on me"
bro if i do a one 180...
so true
hexed igloo
It's why I hit a 540 every time I'm walking away from someone
runic grotto
Try hitting a 981 next time
runic grotto
irl people when they be like "why did you do a 180 on me"
bro if i do a one 180...
Now I have no idea if you actually think this is true
I hope not and you still have a brain
swift hearth
I hope not and you still have a brain
just the bits that matter
runic grotto
good
swift hearth
swift hearth
good
i think my folks had said did a 360 on me like 5 times and i had to correct them
misty nova
180° is flanking
swift hearth
at this point does it matter
misty nova
swift hearth
let your close relatives spread misinformation
misty nova
inner crane
These two talents stack with each other or no?
swift hearth
misty nova
Regardless if you have 15% or 25% crit
inner crane
damn
inner crane
Take Scourge + Blinded by Blood despite under 2/3 crit? Or take Bleed for the Emp + Restoring Faith instead?
For a fury build
mighty root
what?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-crit-zealot-build is no respite worth getting with tac axe? if so what could i drop?
sullen forge
No
mighty root
guh
sullen forge
I literally don’t run that on my build that uses it
hard nexus
<@820414945543716944>
what havoc is that on
mighty root
guh....
sullen forge
29 probs
mighty root
what havoc is that on
the woke 40
mighty root
I literally don’t run that on my build that uses it
dont run?
sullen forge
Fixed
sullen forge
Plasma gunners making damn sure you don’t climb the ladder
hard nexus
still 40k in 3sec
yeah that’s insane
hard nexus
We’ve been damned to that region cause of plasma gunners
i ran a couple h30s earlier and it’s not too bad honestly
if ur vet can play effective anti elites
and you have a competent zealot (me)
and the rest is just chaff clear
we didn’t make it through but both times were not my fault at all
first time was an unlucky trapper net that wasn’t meant for me
and second was a teammate leading a burster into me
mental coral
Hey out of curiosity
I prob should know this but are the buffs like additive or multiplicative (ik its kinda both) but uh
plush estuary
depends on which
hard nexus
depends on which buff
mental coral
For example sustained assault and desperation
plush estuary
one sec
hard nexus
For example sustained assault and desperation
additive i believe
plush estuary
hard nexus
i think strength, damage, cleave, stagger buffs are all additive
plush estuary
plush estuary
add
plush estuary
add with damge buff, multi with power buff
void bison
i honestly kinda enjoy dying light 2
plush estuary
mental coral
void bison
I like the goofiness of the combat compared to the beast
trail grove
Is the Unseen Blade good for sniper weapons? Or just guns in general?
mental coral
well thx. I thought it was additive but wasn't sure
plush estuary
if ever in doubt check kuli's guide
plush estuary
Is the Unseen Blade good for sniper weapons? Or just guns in general?
I can say alot without alot more information, the patch is still fresh. But the uptime is very low without stealth
and if you are using stealth the damage buff will only only against boss and crusher
trail grove
Bruh. So you can't use it to engage enemies.
plush estuary
nope
plush estuary
I dont see use for it outside funny more boss dps
trail grove
so they have to be targeting not you
That, I am fine.
runic grotto
That's the issue
trail grove
Mostly thought about using it as part of a Sniper Zealot build.
runic grotto
Unless they are targeting someone, it doesn't do anything
trail grove
(still working on it)
runic grotto
ok, this talent is a lot worse that I tought
Still not too awful
There are probably better things to pick up
trail grove
The talent should count roaming/idle enemies, imo.
runic grotto
yes
silver stag
trail grove
Also, this also means that a Taunt Ogryn is your best friend.
acoustic dune
ripe quest
i think strength, damage, cleave, stagger buffs are all additive
With themselves yeah, but strength is multiplicative with damage cleave and stagger
long oasis
https://fixvx.com/caninepoetry_/status/1971834107757056286?t=cc5gS1KoieKJD-ubrXs...
more lies from the radical left
acoustic dune
Why so blue batman
long oasis
where on earth do you see a bat
trail grove
Why so blue batman
acoustic dune
where on earth do you see a bat
There
long oasis
gotta say heavy sword no feel good after the cara changes
16 seconds to kill a crusher with all headshots
acoustic dune
gotta say heavy sword no feel good after the cara changes
Did heavy feel worser kn cara?
trail grove
Legally, the Bolter to me is a sniper rifle.
acoustic dune
Legally, the Bolter to me is a sniper rifle.
Legally speaking you are stinky stinky poo poo
It's a magdump weapon
trail grove
Legally speaking you are stinky stinky poo poo
You are within Bolter range.
10 seconds.
acoustic dune
You are within Bolter range.
I am always withing bolter range genius
But you in thammer range
And I just finish charging
ripe quest
Is the Unseen Blade good for sniper weapons? Or just guns in general?
Yeah. You get the buff against any enemy that is spawned and isn't targeting you specifically, with some positioning you can get that to be most alive enemies.
Some weapons don't benefit from it due to breakpoints though, but ultimately that's just down to your build.
acoustic dune
visual stream
gotta say heavy sword no feel good after the cara changes
I've been saying this but the consensus is that I'm wrong
Weapons that already need FotF/Shroud to kill armor or take longer than weapons with good ADMs really disproportionately struggle after this recent patch
solar gorge
sorry i was comatose
sage swan
I'm guessing the current way to handle plasma guys is liberal use of sliding and engaging them in melee asap, right?
trail grove
But you in thammer range
Nay, for you see...I HAVE BEEN LAGGING BEHIND ON PURPOSE.
solar gorge
that or shoot them in the body
acoustic dune
Nay, for you see...I HAVE BEEN LAGGING BEHIND ON PURPOSE.
Ah but you see I was clinging in thy cheeks
trail grove
Ah but you see I was clinging in thy cheeks
...heretical, you are.
acoustic dune
...heretical, you are.
Still have a thammer
sage swan
I still gotta try out the new crusher buffs, so I'll see if sprinting and attacking is helpful
ripe quest
I've been saying this but the consensus is that I'm wrong
Weapons that already n...
It's annoying that it's like this bc weapons that struggle against Carapace should exist it's just the game isn't designed with them in mind unfortunately. Like it's really cool and healthy to have stuff that makes Carapace difficult to approach, we have tools dedicated to that, but then stuff like RB exists where it's a strong top-tier generalist that treats Carapace like a chain weapon treats flak like what.
acoustic dune
sage swan
i will say though, the heavy movement reduction removing talent on thammer is absolutely fucking nuts
visual stream
It's annoying that it's like this bc weapons that struggle against Carapace shou...
I agree
acoustic dune
i will say though, the heavy movement reduction removing talent on thammer is ab...
Its always nuts
sage swan
I can only guess that using a crusher will feel godlike with it
solar gorge
ideally u compensate the one weakness of ur first weapon with the second when it comes to armor but there's weapons in dt that can do everything sooo
visual stream
Dclaw would be really cool and good and fun if the game wasn't designed to so heavily incentivize you having a resourceless tool (melee or including grenades/bullets in vets' case) that is good at everything
trail grove
I wanna hit them with my hammer
Nay
sage swan
pair every weapon with revolver for that vermintide feel
trail grove
Dclaw would be really cool and good and fun if the game wasn't designed to so he...
I still like using it.
trail grove
https://tenor.com/view/brian-horse-feeding-feedinghorse-gif-13014807
Oh look, a poxburster.
And a cliff-
visual stream
I still like using it.
I do too sometimes
acoustic dune
Oh look, a poxburster.
Explode yourself and fling it off the edge
trail grove
I do too sometimes
Mostly for the PARRY THIS YA FILTHY BASTARD
trail grove
Explode yourself and fling it off the edge
Along with you.
solar gorge
no longer need to use dclaw for parries lel
visual stream
I like using it a lot less when I'm on the same team as a relic blade or purgatus staff or flamer or bolter vet or pickaxe ogryn or or or that can all do everything I can do but also do lots of things that I can't
solar gorge
lost it's only gimmick to the strongest melee in game
trail grove
lost it's only gimmick to the strongest melee in game
Nah, not really. It's still better than Dueling Sword for that.
acoustic dune
Along with you.
trail grove
I've tried the Dueling Sword's parry, and it does not compare.
solar gorge
Nah, not really. It's still better than Dueling Sword for that.
nah
it's the same thing but on a better weapon
literally
trail grove
Delayed recovery between parries, slightly weaker damage.
visual stream
literally
Is it all the same damage profiles but different ADMs since it's a different weapon?
trail grove
You can't parry all of the bosses' combo attacks (and the mobs in a pinch) with the Dueling Sword as efficiently as the DClaw.
inner crane
What does maximum once per use mean for Unrelenting Fury?
plush estuary
What does maximum once per use mean for Unrelenting Fury?
only 1 kill will count for the cool down per fury use
obsidian prairie
You can only do it once per cast
inner crane
mighty root
only 1 kill will count for the cool down per fury use
ty ainz dropping twbs was the right move
ripe quest
Is it all the same damage profiles but different ADMs since it's a different wea...
It uses its own damage template for the parry.
formal umbra
stealth bonk zealot is so fun to play now
visual stream
It uses its own damage template for the parry.
Is it stronger or weaker in a general sense?
I would guess stronger because better performance against armor
ripe quest
I've tried the Dueling Sword's parry, and it does not compare.
Main thing is the parry is weaker by default (dclaw is 600-300 PD w/ a 1.25 unyielding ADM/0.5 cara ADM, ds is 500-250 PD w/ a 1x uny ADM/0.6 cara ADM) but DS has better blessings for the parry, mainly Uncanny and Precog. So it works out to be better per-hit and slower swing rate iirc
swift hearth
stealth bonk zealot is so fun to play now
assassin with hammer
formal umbra
It's so fun to just one shot a daemonhost just because I can
atomic matrix
Has anyone done Zealot's crusher? Is there some specifics to make it work? It kinda feels quite low on damage and with everything staggering doesn't feel like it does any impact on a fight
formal umbra
It's impact is the raw amount of stagger it outputs iirc
plush estuary
It's a combo/build up weapon
formal umbra
Yeah that too
obsidian prairie
Has anyone done Zealot's crusher? Is there some specifics to make it work? It ki...
There's a wholeass guide for it in pins
Though the blessings are out of date now
plush estuary
formal umbra
Yeah listen to them
atomic matrix
What build would be for it now? I want to get back to use it
ripe quest
There's a wholeass guide for it in pins
that guide is merely an artifact lost to time
atomic matrix
Way back when the Zealot had the build (TM) that guide was already old
plush estuary
mighty root
Has anyone done Zealot's crusher? Is there some specifics to make it work? It ki...
its good with ij
ripe quest
Way back when the Zealot had the build (TM) that guide was already old
Well, that guide was made back when people were creative so ;)
trail grove
Main thing is the parry is weaker by default (dclaw is 600-300 PD w/ a 1.25 unyi...
Just a quick check, but do Thunderstrike and Skullcrusher proc during or after a stagger?
ripe quest
Like a 6/10
mighty root
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dda22ad-68a6-4234-8df3-7fea5a87a024/terrible-non-crit-zealot-build @atomic matrix dump power output. flak unyielding, skullcrusher slaughter
or use crit
its good with crit
atomic matrix
Would have to try both, ty mate Fyre
mighty root
trail grove
Ok, now on the topic of the Dueling Swords and the Devil Claws' parries, do you think they're eligible for getting Counterattack in their Blessings list?
misty nova
Counterattack is what
Negligible amount of attack speed
On perfect block
Yeah
No
🛌
Lightning Reflexes would be better
trail grove
Just any Blessings that rely on Perfect Block (except for Energy Transfer), tbh.
Also, what
Shock Maul. Increased ranged stagger strength.
obsidian prairie
Its a blessing that exists on ranged and melee
maiden oak
Just played an auric with a guy running stealth and relic blade who was ~2 shotting bosses. He wasn't using marty.
PLEASE zealot chads I beseech thee, how to do this with relic blade my beloved!?
plush estuary
Backstab bonus talents. And right side keystone for damage increase
Unyielding is boss armor, so take talents that increase that
And a perk on the weapon
And know what attack does the most damage
Iirc the sprint jab does the most
solar gorge
And know what attack does the most damage
maiden oak
Yeah I know about sprint stab
trail grove
You know what? Dual weapons when?
maiden oak
So unyielding+flak, max out backstab perks, right side zoom keystone? That's it? 
obsidian prairie
You know what? Dual weapons when?
Every time you ask they delay them
plush estuary
So unyielding+flak, max out backstab perks, right side zoom keystone? That's it?...
Pretty much
Red stim increases damage
And certain teammate interactions buff you so there is that
maiden oak
Thanks ainz ❤️
This is my dream playstyle
I'm a shitter don't like marty but I still want to obliterate bosses
signal spoke
https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1972176095580754324?t=CKrm6kD4L7uFZBeoBfy88g&s=19 the brainrot consumes people
drowsy steppe
https://youtu.be/wX5YHQb94IY this is so cursed
true kindle
behead all rumbler ogryns
Gonna play rumbler ogryn today because of this
vague depot
is martyrs purpose good now
gleaming furnace
behead all rumbler ogryns
sry couldnt hear u from the top of the scoreboard lmaooo
solar gorge
putting smite bots to shame
next crow
it feels like there's 4 ways to safely handle massed rotten armor crushers (with healing/stimms on the side) - rumbler, shock mine, smite and voidblast
basically infinite cleave stuns - you can also just kite them with no CC but one mistake is death
frosty herald
putting smite bots to shame
When rumbler gets nerfed and rumblergryns have to learn how to play the game with more than 2 braincells
potent shuttle
Is anyone else finding this talent is not working on all weapons? Doesn't seem to work on relic blade, works super great on hammer though. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171542147917426728/1420959423609831568/image.png?ex=68d9ee16&is=68d89c96&hm=b36d0175ae8d56625379e8beacd459a56c73757f12021087bbfaa69c4a1a954b&
Or did theybuff the hammer attack movement?
gleaming furnace
putting smite bots to shame
gonna play ep smite now 
signal spoke
How even is the smite now? Is still the same or got better
I met a smiter and it looked like it could stagger faster
candid furnace
thunder hammer dump stat?
carmine lance
behead all rumbler ogryns
Why, what’s bad about the rumbler?
true kindle
I met a smiter and it looked like it could stagger faster
Everything staggers faster because of the global bug now
carmine lance
thunder hammer dump stat?
Defense
signal spoke
Everything staggers faster because of the global bug now
Oh yeah true
carmine lance
Playing dying light again to finally finish the following dlc
solar gorge
Why, what’s bad about the rumbler?
plays the game for you and your team
signal spoke
If you only use the rumbler as sidearm it is okay
But make it as your primary is just puts you to sleep
solar gorge
it's one of those weapons you can use from start to the end screen
signal spoke
If you are only commited to it
carmine lance
I like to use the pickaxe
solar gorge
without ever switching
signal spoke
I use the rumbler on high havoc but always whenever highly necessary for mixed armored hordes and bosses
I sometimes spend huge portion of the runs barely even using it
wooden river
LMAO
Thanks for boosting my mirror drop to the rest of the world, you shmuck
I'm sure it's more luck than you'll ever have trying to get tanner's cock into your mouth
frosty herald
https://i.gyazo.com/e4869914a073c537fb68a4f05a783754.png
peak mirror drop
echo breach
Anyone got a good martyrdom skill tree/load out?
stone fern
https://fxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1972176095580754324?t=CKrm6kD4L7uFZB...
awful news
lucid nest
Are there weapons that have Hit and Run Blessing kinda inate?
like i think Shredder has?
i believe i can just run with it and shoot hipfire
without losing run
But are there other weapons like that?
signal spoke
awful news
Cant believe the way he moves his arms resembles a swastika even if it is not intentional, shit is so woke
solar gorge
drowsy steppe
no!
signal spoke
cuh
bitter anvil
when we drawing
Draw malarkey mpreg
stone fern
Cant believe the way he moves his arms resembles a swastika even if it is not in...
it what
people have been doing the robot for years
frosty herald
oh
frosty herald
i thought it was because of the dwerking
signal spoke
The show does have a lot of themes surronding it but if you ever watch the show you will understand lmao
stone fern
signal spoke
And season 2 is more fucked
frosty herald
seems like a case of terminally online again
solar gorge
i didn't know donald duck was a nazi like that i'll need time to recover
stone fern
https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-running-run-leave-quick-gif-25686144
which season was this?
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-running-run-leave-quick-gif-25686144
is that the racist?
stone fern
damn i dont remember that
signal spoke
is that the racist?
they got the white hoods
signal spoke
James Gunn just carrying the whole DC is insane
stone fern
new superman was strange idk how i felt about it
it wasnt bad it wasnt great but it was kind of a nice watch
signal spoke
It is funny how he manages to make both light heart and mature content at same time
And we already getting supergirl and man of tomorrow soon
signal spoke
it wasnt bad it wasnt great but it was kind of a nice watch
It was peak cinema to me, that is what i wanted of a pure superman movie
stone fern
ye i'm a die hard fan of henry cavill for superman but it really wasnt bad
more like the older comics than the new gritty ones
frosty herald
I cant take the new superman seriously
warped trellis
trvke
signal spoke
It was gunn intention i am sure
frosty herald
people ragging on man of steel like there arent multiple comics of a more serious super man
there both allowed to exist and be good
warped trellis
when im in an overrated slop competition and my opponents are superheros
signal spoke
it was never confirmed to symbolise the flag smh
People are such snowflakes nowadays lol
stone fern
🚬 cant have shit in atoma man
swift hearth
people ragging on man of steel like there arent multiple comics of a more seriou...
Besides the cheesy Christ allusions and not having Superman just say a line about him having to use the high lofts to smash Zod's face in, it was a good movie
bitter anvil
Xitta is already crazy
swift hearth
all they really needed is have Clark say "Why Zod, why did you make me smash your face into a skyscraper, why?"
bitter anvil
this ragebait shouties?
they could be made wrong build on thammy, thammy is quite strict archetype when come dealing type number and strength of enemies.
I saw zealot 1 hammer smack on captian plasma when his shield down
frosty herald
this ragebait shouties?
pure ragebait
bitter anvil
So I assume is shroudfield
frosty herald
I saw zealot 1 hammer smack on captian plasma when his shield down
did that yesterday
1shot shroud from full health
bitter anvil
1shot shroud from full health
Feel good?
frosty herald
very
signal spoke
they could be made wrong build on thammy, thammy is quite strict archetype when ...
reddit users prove once again they dont understand anything
frosty herald
unfaltering makes thammer feel so amazing
bitter anvil
No slow on charge attack
Is a victory
I go basic fury thammy
Man I wish perk weapon crit damage need be bigger like 50%
stone fern
this ragebait shouties?
if i had a dollar for every zealot i saw with wounds a thammer and no thrust id be a very rich man
bitter anvil
if i had a dollar for every zealot i saw with wounds a thammer and no thrust id ...
You’ll see me with wounds and thammer but has thrust
You lose a dollar of thousand
jagged crag
this ragebait shouties?
It's ragebait... but not too far off.
The Thammer is in a better spot NOW, but that image was accurate before the recent patch, and even before that.
Getting to 1 Shot Donk a high HP target... 2, maybe 3 times in a match, wasn't worth how little the hammer does for the rest of the match.
bitter anvil
I’m sticking crucis for event with my friend play as psyker with fgs, then once done I’m going back ironhelm
jagged crag
Even now, you can bring a Thammer, 1 shot some big guys, and kinda deal with hordes okay.
Or you can bring a knife and flamer and get more utility, or bring an Evi and whatever and get more utility, or bring a DS and a single functioning braincell and get more everything...
bitter anvil
Ironhelm horde sweeper beloved
jagged crag
Actually, the Crucis is okay at horde clear now. Not amazing, but serviceable.