#zealot-class
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before the update i did...
wth
what did i even miss
bc all these false things about the thunder hammer is unreal lmao
Nah a big 2-handed hammer’s heavy sweep at your face should 100% stagger
Especially since it has low dodge count and the worst block efficiency in the game
Stagger values are globally broken
You needed grievous wounds for it before 1.9.0 broke stagger
but thats only for me
yeah I guess
okay I see, is it better to consecrate them or just do the grey versions?
either way Im free from flak hell with this bug
i have thrust and headtaker and used it before the update
i do at least blue usually
We should ask fatshark to implement broken stagger values as a base for thammer
i think they nerfed the amount of progress gained a while back but i usually just consecrated to green
thats lowk weird
You hit them while they’re not in combo then
During combo TH couldn’t
no
you cant sacrifice greys
if that doesn't give enough you can try blue
they were doing it already and i hit them
has to be at least a green
ahh okay
Fully charged thrust?
I see people use headtaker, but I always use slaughterer on thammer
im not sure anymore, i just know that i knocked them back quite often
Kills are still super easy on chaff
im legit curious how broken stagger passed testing 
i get deadlines are tight and they were probably overworked but this seems like something that should not be allowed to go past qa
Use headtaker
i know that i knocked them back but with what type of attack idk, i think it was with every
Youll have alot more uptime
did no one notice how u can stagger fuck ragers with random shit
Slaughterer is more useful on ironhelm
you can still reach one-shot threshold pretty decently on Crusher with Crucis Thammer still, a lil tight but I tested it.
I see
in Havoc
krill issueeeee
i like it cause you can just light spam into a boss or crusher shield to get max stacks
Fair
I prefer slaught over HT on crucis I have constant uptime with it
I use slaughterer because higher strength values
both are a fine choice imo
Sacrifice greens
The game is coded with C++
You can figure out the rest
Crucis is really just an everything stick
i love the bitsquid engine!!!!!!!!!!!
yay i got 3 16% toughness relics
explains why the game has like 80 something patches and still feelsl ike it's still in beta
spaghetti on top of spaghetii
you are the QA
real....
I am the quality
play small indie roguelike, be in open beta, basically the stress tester
Anyways, how are my fellow evangelicals doing today
I AM HE ASSURANCE
you can be the assurance
Atleast fatshark has experience with stingray
I broke that game so hard
i'll allow it
What’s block efficiency for
isnt the game like years old now
3
i guess its kinda self explanatory
outside very specific stuff
Damn can’t even ask how everyone is doing to be friendly
turn out having no cap on a dmg modifier that scales on distance and making it so the bullet will travel around the player in a circle results in billions of dmg
the perk block efficiency should make the block list bigger
3 years and its still in bad condition?
ye
(i have never blocked anyone in game)
For wat
i'm trying out a "block everything" ogyrn lol
i think the developers are kinda in war with the heretics
they released it too early
thats why
secret boss that can only be killed after minutes with one specific build
me? i one shot it
they the nerfed that attachment
20m cap
Prob new talent introduction
tldr: be the reason devs have to nerf shit
it's a warhammer......
Because of the fune martyrdom shroudfield build one tapping bosses
oh my bad, i meant blocking enemy attacks, like some ragers when theyre infront of me all of a sudden, or daemonhosts or those fatsos
warhammer 40k
"nerf bebop"
thammer has to backflip thru 10 burning hoops to be as good as it is now
title drop! title drop!
Nah it needs massive buffs to stagger & mixed horde performance
it's not getting narfed
thammer just need better horde clear and we're golden
you don't need thammer for that
yes it 1 shanks bosses but everything else leaves a lot to be desired
with the stagger bug it has decent horde clear
WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FIND ALL 40,000 WARHAMMERS, NOBODY TELLS ME WHEN I ASK
no
once that is gone it's back to low income housing
nah
I mean I enjoy the thammer as it is
still good
based and bonk pilled
there i said it
isnt that basically the salamanders quest to hopefully get dad to return?
You don’t rly need block efficiency for most of those scenarios
Block efficiency on curios maths out pretty badly
A +3 stamina curio is enough most of the time to sustain blocking multiple attacks in a row
Basically lmao
yes
id say every weapon should stay as they look
The salamanders actualy made quite a bit of progress on vulkan's relics
i feel like heavy sword could use some love tho
thammer just need mixed horde buff and das it
about as much as the space elves and their anti slaanesh swords im guessing?
bruh, whats up with yall 😭 i get that everyone has an opinion but like damn
but even without that it's a good weapon
Slenderman saying “collect my 8 pages” except instead of killing you or whatever, vulkan finally returns with the milk
gang let me play the game the way i want, it only affects me
vulkan tomorrow alongside heavy stubber, melta and 2h chaxe
just you wait
play the optimal meta
he's giving you good info but u dont have to follow it
its just the game lies about things 50% of the time or doesnt explain outright
you know it calls to you
NO! YOU NEED TO PLAY EXACTLY HOW I WANT, FUCK YOU, DIE
be a meta slave
as a sniper main i saw the salamanders dlc in space marine 2
your mandatory build inspection is in 5 minutes, be ready
If this drops on the Q4 update ill shit myself
i get that, but then the rest 50% of lies are the players giving
if they add elf children to SM2 vulkan will return with a flamer
i think i sent that already
bath will not lie to u ever dw
i mean you're in a game discord and people are dedicated
I still find it really funny the heavy stubber is ogryn’s marksmanship weapon
oh sorry went to junk mail, my b
I like it
Yeah let me snipe enemies with a fucking machine gun
I’m not complaining, mind you
"ogryn"
@broken light
need I say more?
rate that
It’s just conceptually funny
Heavy stubber also does a ton of damage with deadly accurate
oh i was just being a dick, but i'll look
dw youll love it
not enough right
Also ogryn are supposed to have dogshit aim which is also funny
main path giga chad
fr
this is how i feel being in this server
the idea of a sniper ogryn is the funny part not the weapon itself
i have to play the exact build and type for people to be happy
tbf our ogryns have chips
oh no only brawler has the implant
the brute shocktroop mf is a precison marksman now
ill ping you my zealot build
really?
bully and bodyguard are just geniuses
we need more cool mutants
@broken light
not those lame witches
we need the dwarves
brawler's the dumbest but it's because his bonehead implant is malfunctioning and he sometimes mentions feeling a tingling sensation in his skull due to it
speaking of
crit maxxing, beautiful
deep rock survivors got its 1.0
GW? Giving a shit about leagues of votann??
yess fr finally someone gets it
when pigs fly
i crit max the thunderhammer
i backstab max the crusher we are not the same
SAME
when they are on the floor staggered and you hit them from the back, is that a backshot?
ehh backstab
yeah meant that
Good, I hope you never feel welcome here on account of my autism and ego 
(I will throw a temper tantrum if your build is .000015 points of damage below optimal)
i think its literally the back 180 of the enemy
okay ill ping you my build

am i cooked?
nvm ill just send you the screenshots
you trip instead of dodging
You don’t actually have to if you don’t want, I’m just shit posting lol
I still like knife zealot, as busted as shroudfield martyr thammer is
amen
🙏
shroud crusher 6.5k backshots
Oh it’s insane what the build can do
i love to go 3 nodes and grey thunder hammer into havoc 30
But then my brain gets sad I can’t be as fast as the rabid crack addict that is knife zealot
That build genuinely appeals directly to my adhd lmfao
did you look at my build
No because I’m the last person to ask on build advice lmao
gang i just want you to rate my build
i dont need any advices
i dont take any on builds
i wanna critmax
Understood
Alright put me in coach
I will get back to you because I do not have talents memorized
This one?
yur
errrmm rating a build implies asking for feedback

A lot of wasted points
you can kinda see them on the pic
So idk, 5/10
1/10, good, bad, fuck you, i love you
such
when she rates it, does she give feedback or just a x/10?
There happy
i r8 your build 8/8 m8
rating is feedback
I want feedback
but I don't feedback
what are you on?
no?
I do not remember what anything does so I will be making shit up
The idea is fine, but half of the points can be given to other nodes
Unless I have the game directly infront of me
lengthy girthy and juicy constructive feedback
my build is really only about critmaxing, toughness regen and dmg boost under conditions
Also not taking duelist is probably the biggest problem
Critmaxxing is fun
Howdy, 6.75/10.
damn 3/3
Take duelist for that shit yeah
rate my crit max?
where does that .75 come from
1/15
A crit build with no duelist is kinda troll ngl
shit build
Even not crit builds take it
For crits go for blazing piety
since im no backstabber i cant rate it, but it looks like a 8/10
i cant rate it but i rated it
Lmao 😈
heh
Blazing piety is like the crit keystone right
but its built for crits
10 cheeseburgers out of 10
It's just a reflection
and 8 and a 10
I like it 😈
its more of a build up crit keystone
im just that good
I just know blazing piety has a lot to do with crits and crit chance
Would've been 7.5 but you lost a bit for Infectious Zeal, Punishment, and a lack of Duelist.
But ultimately? Play what you want, dawg
I don't think this guy actually wants feedback
Just hands 👊🏻
As long as you have fun 
piety is +25% crit chance
Banger
As someone on the spectrum, I just want to say
scourge with +30 is also there
No
so how does it feel to live in that timeline?
If autism is as rampant as they claim it is, public transportation would NOT be this dog shit
base 5, +25, +30, +20 somehow idk
Depends a bit on the weapon.
max i get is 80%
truth bomb
without any of the weapon blessings crit bonus
zealot has 5% base crit
as zealot you have 5% base
if autism was that rampant, youd have a functioning country
billionaires should exist as compost
THAT’S WHAT IM SAYING
Weapons have crit chance modifiers that increase or decrease your base crit chance prior to buffs.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
billionaires are like loot piñatas in an arpg
unbased
idk man i main a 100 grey thunderhammer
kill them and you get lots of cool loot right?
Lmfao, true tho
im jk uncle
Like being rich is nice and all, but then what the hell do you do with all that money
You’re not spending it
you will get a expedited trial to a death sentencing and become a martyr for the bloodthirsty
It doesn’t go back into the economy
i can tell you its fun at the beginning but it gets boring once you tried out most things
horde it
hoard it like a dragon
I'm just showing how you interview the autistic style 😈
and give monologues on top of the pile of gold
See that’s I’m thinking would happen
like i dont enjoy expensive gifts, it doesnt really show much taste
plus its just money gng
pov: slaanesh
Personally I like giving gifts for the sake of it
also got the cool book cosmetic
i enjoy personal time more than gifts
welcome fellow book enjoyer
Is nice to give things that make friends happy
either you horde it like a dragon or if you have a steady supply of it donate to stuff
idk
I like books :D
hey new member!
nah man you invest it and sit on it
books are neat, i need to read more
I’ve been reading the gotrek and felix books
and do nothing to stimulate the economy
And currently reading some battletech books
The biggest value of being rich is not having to worry about money anymore. But this is achieved, broadly speaking, with an annual income of 100k dollars. There are no measurable gains to happiness beyond that
but how dare a person earn enough to live amarite?
i'm reading monuments men right now
thats good to hear, depends on the gift really
id take free food all the time
Or is mentioning battletech in a 40k server going to get me like, crucified
thats a nice gift
Nah we cool.
I think you need more crew
True, it’s important to keep in mind interests and personal tastes of people when giving gifts
omd when i was in highschool we had to read green mile... it was so ass 😭
what game is that?#
100k where i live would make me a king
i wish
Why so?
i've been trying to get enough messages for the red tag lol
basically yeah
I’m tired, boss
i didn't end up reading it i used sparknotes lmao
sleepy time
I wish but I got class in like, 5 minutes
Nah this class fun
you missed alot
they dropped the n word
gasp
We talk about breaches of morals and ethics
pov: instagram
yooo thats what we do
pov: CSGO lobby comms
morals ethics? nah burn heretic
Like how dupont gave everyone teflon as a little gift (every person alive has a little teflon inside of them)
4 beam
i promised myself ill never talk again after getting kicked twice
ok but if I only have 100k how am I gonna buy a yacht have you thought about that
Yummy
like okay theyre russians and wtv but gang why cant i play a game 😭
i stopped playing and sold my most expensive skins two months ago
what game is that? im curious
where on earth do you see 20
Coxk noteer
how much was it?
space engineers 2
ended up with like $800 steam bucks
niceeeeeeee
i got a gamma doppler gut knife out my first case
sold it for like 100 bucks
O yeah it's 16
thats all i had from csgo
i had a marble fade stiletto and a pair of driver gloves
that seems wrong
its stellaris
Space marine 2
stilettos arent really my taste so i would have sold them the second i got
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i almost bought the butt pluh knife
The yacht will not make you happy
shadow daggers i think
i didn't like it tbh
i just opened it
lies upon lies..
WE LOVE BUILINDING MASS DESTRUCTION IN DIZ HOOD
and this guy is a mod
do you have a screenshot of it?
i've got a vid of me opening it
do we have any info on the range where backstabber works now?
lemme see
Yatch moment
ill add you bc i have dms off
i thik
think
Where you buy happiness for 100k
you can unadd me after you sent it
nw nw don't have to keep me added or anything
gaben says otherwise
you will never in your life buy a yacht thats 100k
gaben derives his happiness from reading all your emails
100k of the finest things the imperium has to offer
unless its a small one
just be big smh
Dead space is my favorite space engineering game 
help
I used to just hold revive until last second, drop, and repeat until fire went away
im 6'2.. is that big enough?
That's only like $48/hr at full time. Need at least $240/hr for the hobbies I dream of. 
This is definitely nice for teammates who do not know how much of a throw revving in fire was though
I mean, in deadspace 2, the cutter you use is literally taken from a surgical ward
Those hobbies won't make you happy
you may be onto sometihng
I don’t think it’s needed but it is a shame a deadspace 2 remake isn’t happening
i'd do unspeakable things for 48$ an hour
"20 bucks is 20 bucks"
Unironically false w/ that one. I really want to make a private super computer.
this
YEAH
You'll have the private super computer of your dreams and you'll do everything you always wanted to do with it and at the end of the day you'll turn it off and sit there, staring at the black screen, and you'll realise that you weren't any happier than before you had it.
I’ll do it if they’re at the edge though because I’m assuming they’re gonna spam dodge
im happy about buying a new pc
then you do the line of space drugs
i mean this is the same line of thinking as "money wont make you happy" and this is true but it will help making me NOT feel miserable
and your human computer screams at you
Now we're talking
I just want enough money to buy a small house on a lake and a small boat
40k life must be hard
fishing time bby
this is because happiness is an unobtainable thing as it is not a thing, happiness is a state of existence that we will always eventually be without
😭
i love fishing!!!
well i love fish
but i was never fishing
Money doesn't make you happy, but it DOES prevent misery from any degree of poverty, which is like 90% of everything that makes me miserable
i like the water
money wont make you happy, but not starving has never made someone sad?
same i love to swim
True happiness comes from peace of mind, safety, and the fulfilment of your hierarchy of needs. Private supercomputers are entertaining but they are not a substantial addition to any of these.
whats the meaning behind this 😭
I like swimming but I viscerally hate the sensation of sunscreen so I don’t go swimming much anymore
pool
uhh, what. Implies that'd I'd be turning it off and as if it isn't one of the top things I want to do. I genuinely cannot pursue that without an obscene amount of money, especially due to upkeep. Stuff doesn't magically become meaningless once it passes a price threshold some shit is expensive.
you can go indoors
what if making your hobbies become real helps with the above
Don’t have indoor pools near me
fr
im happy to be happy
yee like a chef
build one
oh
The greatest happiness comes from the reduction of your hierarchy of needs and the enlightenment that the fulfilment of the basic ones and the privilege of waking up another day and existing on this beautiful planet is more valuable than any physical possession
oh my we got a therapist here
based and philosophy pilled
cant lie this planet is beautiful, the people arent
then why do the instagram reels make me happy when they say the funny?
Chat if you are a cat
The greatest happiness comes when bad things happen to the evil elite ruling our world
|| cats he onto us||
Would you let someone rub your tum tum
Your dopamine reward system has been hijacked by the algorithm. Zuckerberg owns your soul. Repent and delete the app
nah
you become addicted to it, gambling for dopamine
why would you need to be cat?
this sounds good on paper but until i get actual income and live in a country that treats me like a human being i wont have the peace of mind to even apprach things with this mentality
What if you explode
I would take you with me
Bc
Those things are definitely part of your basic needs. Your direct material wellbeing and the dignity of being a respected citizen aren't trifles.
white phosphorus explosion
is this romance?
i think this update for zealot was bad he feels kinda weak compared to other classes .....psyker casually doing 5+mill dmg in havoc ....
rizz*
You can still have a minor degree of this mindset, especially with the knowledge that so many people already live so much more miserable lives than you, but that's also sad in and of itself for anyone with a basic sense of morality which is unfortunately not common
What if I rub ur tum tum and bc of it I don't explode
that's exactly my point, most people dont even have to basic stuff like this so its really hard to be in the "im happy to live another day" mindset
comparing is one of the worst you can do in life, start doing so and youll ruin your self peace in minutes
It's about how you compare and how you compartmentalize
i mean to be fair it takes a long time to get your head straight if you're not in a good spot with a support structure lol
i know, there are some good things to compare but those arent necessary at the end of the day
imo
I'm saying that if you make 50 bucks an hour in a first world country, the extent to which your financial situation contributes to your happiness has peaked.
well i do cause i had a rough life so far and im still mentally sane 
its good to be modest and thankful for everything but too much stress can mess up with this big time
id say happiness comes from drinking and driving
so the rest can be spent purging heretics?
noted
Agreed
get this person some car keys stat
If you're making poverty wages in a worse country, then I don't expect you to be content and deriving maximum happiness from it. That's unrealistic
i cant drive for good, so i wouldnt wanna touch a steering wheel 😭
It's hard for anyone to say they haven't had a rough life and be telling the truth, everyone has varying degrees of privilege and opportunity and all we can do is make our position better while also helping our fellow man
People making 100k a year in the West should be looking towards art, philosophy, health and self-improvement to enhance their happiness, not more money.
never listen to someone who says "i had it worse"
moral of the story is lets rob billioneers 
Always
theyt dont need all that extra moolah
Would be nice if most of them did
just because you didnt live like pure shit it doesnt mean your bad experiences were useless and meaningless
Mr E video saved rat gameplay ty Mr E
but whatever will they do with a nother billion
they need it
But 99% of people, even people who should agree with me, would disagree
to Israel it goes
burn the heretics!!!
how did the chat go from builds to politics btw
Aaaand that was Palantir bait, get owned
Infrastructure is political 
natural progression
icl i hate politics with my whole heart
There's an argument to be made that infinite money would not bring about happiness alone, you could have anything you want that money could buy and there would still be self-exploration to be had to actually be happy. However 100k is kinda a really low threshold ultimately esp as this does not cover outliers very well and even some normal cases. Like that's still years of debt for some as a minor example.
the world should burn if it wants to, i wont have an opinion to it
Clown ass take
dogs barking as always
baulder go up?
in theory that would just cause infinite inflation
Actually if the assembly of the private supercomputer involves the further development of personal skills and the possession of the machine then allows one to, idk, practice science, then that'll make you happy. But not moreso than doing the same things with lesser equipment, or painting Warhammer minis, or getting really good at tennis.
There's an argument that's what the US is banking on with AI
Yeah it's a rule of thumb, susceptible to high CoL or personal circumstances.
i draw on my supercomputer
and draw on 3d models
thats all
Being the first great power to hit that threshold as a means of trying to open up a gap with the PRC
wtf is a prc
Because fuck knows they're not pulling manufacturing back
fuck knows pretty much ig
100k is like, double what most people make
Is Crystalline Will bugged with Venting Shriek?
I overloaded, shrieked, and still took a bar of corruption
my mother has been a nurse for like 20 years and she only brings in around 75k~ a year
CoL counts for a lot
but its still very little if you compare todays prices
whats the strategic advantage to generating ai slop for twitter, telemarketing scams, and automatically ignoring resumés ?
exactly
shits fucked lol
100k in Zurich or SF Bay area is poverty wages
fuck zurich
and sf
yeah if you're living in some metro shithole that always has been & always will be super expensive to live in
then
that's expected
Metro shithole lol
isnt metro shithole supposed to be cheap but still expensive for the poor?
no lol
mb
every metro is a shithole
idk what a metro shithole is
depends on the hole. sf has never been cheap
Ineptitude at planning and density
Car centric planning is a fucking plague
nuke all cars
density is good for ant colonies
i have never been to a large city where the air doesn't taste like sewage and the housing isn't massively overpriced for the sake of "you're closer to your job!" despite the fact you're going to be stuck in shit traffic
hell is earth
paris be like
chicago
yea theyre cool if you wanna sit in some crackheads piss and never be on time anywhere cus your mode of transport is slaved to the whims of fatcat union gangsters
A rich country is one where the rich take public transport 
crackheads are so fun to watch
like cockroaches going around
have you considered no crack?
i dont take crack...
idgaf what they do in denmark. the la metropolitan area has over 3x the population. the same solutions could never apply
badass lines i say while im gaming
"in the wild only the strong survive, i want you to guess who that is"
good
Denmark doesn't have the density 
im crying these cornballs are so fun
i took snow tho, was fun
public transit is actually better for traffic than you know, cars
denmark has to worry about the water
white or yellow?
what
and yet you seem to thibk the solution is have everyone living on too of each other like an anthill
acount based in kepler 2
the optimal solution is to build one more lane
20 people in a car each is 20 vehicles 20 in one bus is one vehicle
easy meth
the optimal solution is less ppl
Hello Dubai civil engineer is that you
Skill issue really
no im from la
Urban planning is a lost art in the US
i think instagram is like the perfect platform for a reality hit
we decided to build around cars unfortunately
There's conurbations with greater density and population, that provide services and QoL far in excess of the US counterparts
omg a fun thing i saw is that americans dont say "weighting myself" they now tend to say "checking my powerlevel"
density is the opposite of qol
Because the US doesn't believe in public infrastructure
public transportation turns out to be pretty good when you don't have 2 political parties constantly trying to tear each other apart
So if they manage to provide QoL despite density that only underscores the gap
there is literally no greater degradation to qol than living crammed in side by side on top of each other
high density housing is the epitome of capitalistic enslavement for the masses
its a filthy way to live that degrades the soul
As opposed to aspirational suburban sprawl?
at that rate you should consider living a different life
ngl
well, business has also interferred with that, musk's hyperloop nonsense famously was just to torpedo the high speed rail plans that were being worked on
guess who is the primary contributor to US political parties
corporations
lets not talk about taking shots
thats how it is everywhere lol
Chat
bc there is someone who took one right to their neck
Chat what if I need a homie kiss
ok you have to admit though that memorial service was one of the funniest fucking things ive ever watched
id argue that some places are better at keeping it than others
high speed rails never gonna happen. the environmental impact studies alone will hold it up for the next century
To sleep tonite
no clue what yall are talking about sowwy
you should ask a friend for it?
she walked out on stage like she's fucking CODY RHODES and going "WELCOME TO THE FUNERAL RAAAGH"
😭
crazy work gng
About that
who are you even talking about btw
The wife was getting a little personal with orange man during that hug I won't lie
I ate them
promoted to ceo speedrun
oh!
you ate your friends
erika kirk be like
On my defense
who's that? 🙂
They were juicy thighs
I mean, orange DID own the Miss USA or whatever while she was Arizona Queen or whatever the fuck it's called
yo momma!
you should
oh!
uhm okay
And he did admit to backstage perving so maybe she has a little crush
Emre zealot chat
I'd rather turn my brains into a jackson pollock painting than have that fucking hag as my mother
I am hungy
blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne!
why are the vets talking about the golden throne?
i didnt get that part in the lore
which part?
the emperor of mankind is on it
emperor
oh
just another way of saying for the emperor
so for the golden throne, for the emperor
right the emperor could stand up and sit down
no one would believe the people sitting infront of him
i get it now, ty
if he stood up the silver/grey guys would have to sit him back down
oh another question
in darktide i think the veteran or zealot says "as if the grey knights would be real"
i didnt get that part, bc i saw them before
for a lot of the lore they are basically just a myth
since whoever sees them is gonna die
then they fought the space wolves
and they dont really get to purge everyone and anyone
but for the darktide guys grey knights might as well be a myth that isnt real
chances are theyd never see a spacemarine let alone the secret space wizards club
wizards only, fools
filthy witches need purged amarite?
space marines are fun
i like the sound marines
or noise marines wtv
but those are like uh
against the space marines right
sound in context of slaanesh worshippers is a poor choice given what that involves
but yeah they are the noise marines and they are chaos
so they fight the space marines of the imperium
good meme
thank you
i rate it a 6/9
this chat really wrapped my idea regarding what people like on zealot
im seeing a LOT of bitching elsewhere regarding cdr nerf on book
on top of bitching that vet deals more melee dmg or whatever 
I think book needs to be completely changed
The CDR nerf was just a nail in the coffin for it as spamming it was kind of like
It's only saving grace
i left a mini server im in cause people there were brainrotting me
according to them zealot is the weakest class now

Does Incendiary Grenades actually cause burn now? Or still no?
also just soldified my hatred for "meta" gaming
they'll only play what can clear things the fastest
as if this is an exam they need to pass with perfect marks
this is what happens when people only want things buffed
same thing in bl4
theres a knife that lets you instakill a boss
and people are crying that its being gutted
no
"DO NOT NERF IN PVE!!"
like honestly i'd say zealot and veteran are pretty damn even right now
cause if he's the weakest then everything else needs to be brought down a notch
i was doing unspeakable things in a boss malestrom with a scarmbled salad build
idk how much more power do u want before turning the game into an auto clicker
i think at least zeal got thammer can burst high damage
veteran melee is small size burst damage but sustain some damage
I think when it comes to balance, devs should really look into what the fantasy needs/wants to be.
Taking this game for example. Warhammer has a very clear fantasy with its weapons.
If something were to be “the best” I would much much rather it be the iconic weaponry like the Chain and Power weapons, over something more mundane like the dueling sword and combat knife
what about the 2 hit shroudfield?
Fatshark lied to me
ew
thats so ass
the power weapons are pretty gud rn to be fair
power sword is insane dmg and relic blade is great
gaming is already one of the lowest class hobbies you xan have
chain weapons actually feel nice now
but then meta gaming bruh
what happen to eviserator?
its a long chainsword
Oh yeah no doubt. I’m more speaking on “The Meta”
I can definitely take 90% of the weaponry right now and be fine up until high havoc. It’s there where the differences really shine.
better to use now
I keep saying that mobility is its own strength anyway, dsword and knife don't need to hit as hard as they do, and the iconic weapons could be more cumbersome like they are now but also do the most dmg
pretty sure its been patched out
no it's just
inconsistent now
like 50/50 you just have to pull it off way faster
this patch is very fun but i think everything is out of wack lol
balance wise
shouldfield with devil claw 
everything is hitting hard and the health buff doesnt compensate
is rendering that op?
at least in aurics
i have not tried high havoc yet and it seems like they just made havoc a nightmare lol
My auric pubs keep getting rolled and wiping lolol
i tried it trust me
good :3
I would actually take them being less cumbersome over the damage.
But I have an aversion to awkward feeling weaponry.
Or at least let us spec into making them less cumbersome.
A handling stat that affects swap/draw/ready/activation speed would be neat
its horrifying how op it is
I don't mean more cumbersome than now
stacking up the rendering from 20%-24% 5 time would kil crusher easily
same but that's always been the same
im ngl playing pubs 95% makes me understand why fatshark just buffs and buffs and buffs
people SUCK and this coming from a mid player like me
Agreed
oh i use uh
if only dsword wasn't fucking boring ass moveset 🚬
idk what i use
The heavier weaponry could have like a high innate rending or something
dsword?
dsword could use do damage to unarmored target, or least than carapace is alright
just remove hitmass from the game 4head
duelling sword
good
bc i heard its meta
yeah i can imagine
Its very meta
i still use dsword to make as saltpyre build
Knife is more fun DS to me but knife is also very meta lol
i only used the knife for movement
never for action
i wouldnt say every iconic weapon
ilas is def the biggest example of a weapon that should feel way less cumbersome than it does now
Did they forget to update shroudfield duration? Why is it still 5 seconds instead of 8
talking about realism the knife being superior than a relic blade is yk
jokes write themselves
among other stuff
idk why such happens to every game
Where is my 8 seconds of invisibility
ngl im perfectly fine with knife being meta purely because of how fucking funny it is
Oh yeah agreed
give the weapon what it would best stand for, the knife is the lightest so why not give it only speed bonus stuff
ilas also kicks like a fucking mule for some reason
I've said as much internally. I want them to be reworked in Q4.
like what do you mean this regular ass shank is on the upper echelons of the meta
It's shooting fucking light
HUH??????????
I know I’m late but excuse me??????
Where in the world did they get that idea lmao
its more of electricity i thknk
the convo was something along the lines
"arbi and ogry are arbi and ogryn, vet can out melee zealot while having voc and better ranged, psyker is psyker"
assuming this is true
chat
the solution isnt buffing zealot 
what i miss
voice of command isnt even better than zealots version
if things are so out of wack to the point where roided up zealot is weak then go back to the drawing board
no lasgun should have recoil
it's extremely vexing that they have any
Wellllllll
nothing im just bored asf and yapping
Me when I pull up with the boss one tap build
I wouldn't say recoil
oh thought someone got banned again
nah
But the machine should vibrate
we really need a zealot banned board
but it doesnt even fire real bullets
idc what the lore say the writers can't even agree if they shoot beams or bolts
no lasgun, should have recoil
i think the laspistol is a good example of how the "recoil" should work
it very much is
Beams make more sense.
how come
voc gives golden toughness + stagger + u dont have to hold it for 10 seconds
realistically it would make no sense
you misunderstand
and the mk x one? the recoil is kicking high
you cant say that a tesla should make the sounds of a v8
if the gun stood completely still it would actually feel really jarring
not any kind of lasgun should have recoil
recon has no recoil and it feels fine
las pistol has no real recoil and feels fine
but you have 75 more toughness, better boost and more time to think
i mean more so the animation
like there is a bit of movement
Is it that much of a common occurence 
oh now i get it
only when the zealot guide are made
outside of that
no
pls understand min maxxers consider the time u spend holding the book a dps net loss
i got banned once
What do zealot guides bring out in people 
but with the ilas it just bounces all over the sceen
it demanded sacrafice
Zealot guide creators and obstinate Tanner fans are the top two ban sources for sure lol
thank god im not that desperate, if im playing im not playing as if i would be late for my bus
its what we had to do to get our zealot guide
So it’s more of a mechanicus thing, ok
cough cough
yeah
Zealot guides is the equivalent of cavemen explaining which bonk is he strongest. And either way we are still meta
is this like
snow everything else
no, lasgun should have recoil
You’d think that’d be the case with ogryn more
whats inside your head
@violet hornet
ur mom
The only difference between us and Ogryn is that most of the ogryn community is that the Ogryn's see a rock and stare at it and half of use here might have or does ADHD
ur dad
meanie
ur aunt
yall are quite weird
this is zealot chat
fucking victors bro 
you
I hate that his second chance passive ALSO aoe stuns and damages
im no part of it
So he gets another health bar and gets rewarded for misplaying
just don't stand in it
ur grandma
shrimple
in the tree, part of the tree
Troof
victor be like uuuugggggggggg
may god be gentle on the day of your judgement
gets kited to death
Gives him free distance to run
ur grandpa
your ragebait wont work against me:)
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