trying to get my talents built for all the classes first
#zealot-class
gilded thorn
dommed captains like it was nothin
zinc talon
I just noticed how much beefier it is in the psyk
gilded thorn
shields?
zinc talon
and the change to its attack patterns
gilded thorn
no problem
ripe quest
Balancing for it is a bit weird but it's def in a better spot than originally.
gilded thorn
health no problem
zinc talon
awesomew
how are the plasma gunners, is it a hit scan weapon like the laser/stubber guns?
or does it have a travel time
gilded thorn
hitscan
gilded thorn
same as captain plasma
gilded thorn
shields will stop it I hoe
ye it does
gilded thorn
shit stuns everything in sight
stacks pinning fire like crazy
tho it doesnt seem to spread puncture all that well
might need to switch it to shattering impact
zinc talon
it still has the minimum range to arm the detonation right
so lethal proximity doesn't go anywhere
I'm gonna test it with run and gun cuz that 30% spread reduction makes the OG bolt pistol a laser beam at any distance
and see if there's any noticable difference in accuracy mark to mark
zinc talon
shooting in between the smol packs in the meat grinder still damaged half of both packs
hollow dove
new bolter mark feels ... good
Yeah but I prefer just looking somewhere and then condemn everything in that general direction with one resounding brrr
gilded thorn
Yeah but I prefer just looking somewhere and then condemn everything in that gen...
true dat
zinc talon
so from where I'm standing to that dude's feet is the size of the explosion AOE from center to edge
zinc talon
yeah direct hits
still, it takes a third to half of a smols health just being in the aoe
damage doesn't seem to fall off from center to edge
yeah it doesn't fall off at all
so 3 rounds out of the new mark of bolt pistol will eliminate all horde in a 6m radius
gilded thorn
but does the spread proc shattering impact on everything?
hollow dove
if it could spread puncture that wouldve been insane
yeah or spread bleed
zinc talon
current setup
does the new bolter not arm its rounds below 5m?
if it does and there's still an aoe explosion firing at your feet lethal proximity is only useful for the aoe increase
from 5 to 6 m
gilded thorn
youre talking about the pistol variant
gilded thorn
big boi bolter is where its at
i need to test the shattering impact on the new mark
zinc talon
the law requires me to play a sister of battle if one is reasonably available
I am chain weapons / crusher / thunder hammer and bolt pistol or flamer
it's the rules
the double tap on the bolter has always been my biggest irrational pet peeve since day 1 of darktide's release
zinc talon
it has its uses sure
but it was built from the ground up on day 1 of coding it to have the double tap only to make it less appealing of a weapon
gilded thorn
wnew mark gets pinning fire like its nothing lmao
zinc talon
lol fuckin awesome
fire frenzy is tempting for me at least at first glance
because the aoe is gonna pop a ton of horde likely from the second shot on
so you're running max pinning fire max fire frenzy
gilded thorn
hmmm
zinc talon
that's 75%
gilded thorn
sounds good
zinc talon
inspiring barrage also never goes out of style for me
it's always there, doin unglorious but honest work
gilded thorn
new mark bolter
pinning fire + fire frenzy, sounds like a crazy flamer alternative lmao
empty python
chainsword pretty good now, this is Havoc 40 modifier with True Solo btw
gilded thorn
chainsword pretty good now, this is Havoc 40 modifier with True Solo btw
how does the evisc and chainaxe compare
copper hawk
chainsword pretty good now, this is Havoc 40 modifier with True Solo btw
@grave anvil
misty nova
how does the evisc and chainaxe compare
Still 6k carapace
copper hawk
chainsword pretty good now, this is Havoc 40 modifier with True Solo btw
What build u using
copper hawk
zinc talon
yeah the chainsword feels good
1h I mean
super nimble
just have to know your attack combos for each mark like cold, in your muscle memory
zinc talon
leaning in with the wrong swing will get you caught out so so so fast
empty python
What build u using
zinc talon
the OG 1h chainsword is unique in the sense that it doesn't have any left-right 1-2 combos
both the heavy attacks and the light attacks are 4 attacks long
copper hawk
Thankz much
zinc talon
and each one corresponds with its heavy counterpoint
so you're never off-combo
it's just, heavies for cleave lights for speed
since they all do the same damage
gilded thorn
guess the evisc XV gets in for having pretty simplistic combos
zinc talon
in all honesty the new chainsword is probably 'better' than the old one
but it's boring af
void bison
copper hawk
Not wrath and shred ?
zinc talon
the og chainsword has some spirit and nuance to its swings
new chainsword is a fantastic beginner weapon
not to say expderienced players can't use it well
it's used to great effect
it just bores me
gilded thorn
whats the go to blessings on tigrus now
or still same with perfect strike shred
@misty nova
zinc talon
if I could get that auto rev stabbing push attack on the OG chainsword
empty python
Not wrath and shred ?
I can go for those if I want to ig, nothing deep really, just took what I got
zinc talon
the new chainsword's auto rev push attack stab is maybe the best single target dispatch attack the zealot has
gilded thorn
does bloodletter get a shout on evisc ?
grave anvil
chainsword pretty good now, this is Havoc 40 modifier with True Solo btw
Definitely much better than it was for zealot, but zealot got the huge eviscerator buff too which I'd imagine is still a bit more favorable over the two
zinc talon
I like it a lot cuz you rev and heavy cleave horizontally, and suddenly all your swings are taking advantage of hitting bleeding targets so it's easy to keep that 30% crit talent up 24/7
also, a 2nd tier use of the heavy revved cleaves
is that they latch onto the first special they hit and only cleave horde
so you can use it, to find and kill elites in mixed horde fights
gilded thorn
Definitely much better than it was for zealot, but zealot got the huge eviscerat...
if only evisc alsop had 14 sstacks on blood letter too
zinc talon
it'll cleave through the crowd til it finds the elite and latch onto them
empty python
how does the evisc and chainaxe compare
I mean bloody hell lol, crazy good rev dmg on evis. But I suppose it comes down to what ur bringing what for
gilded thorn
shit would wild
grave anvil
if only evisc alsop had 14 sstacks on blood letter too
Just go left tree. Crits apply bleed anyway
zinc talon
and it's super easy to miss what you're swinging at when it's hectic
you rev and light cleave and find the elites so you don't take the time to prep a heavy attack and then miss
faint vapor
the double tap on the bolter has always been my biggest irrational pet peeve sin...
The new bolter only fires 1 shot on hipfire now
empty python
Definitely much better than it was for zealot, but zealot got the huge eviscerat...
yeah i guess it comes down on whether you want something more generalized and mobile, or dmg
zinc talon
OH MY GOD OYURE RIGHT IT DOES
hearty nebula
shoutouts to this random level 25 i just duo'd gloriana with
gilded thorn
Just go left tree. Crits apply bleed anyway
went with marty but still took scourge and blinded by blood
zinc talon
BOLTER IS BACK BABY
gilded thorn
feels thats more than enough
hearty nebula
(the deaths were bots)
faint vapor
BOLTER IS BACK BABY
also Shattering Impact is AOE debuff
empty python
tho i DEFINITELY think they should buff assault chainsword more, like give it Uncanny or Brittle blessing lol
faint vapor
the arming distance of the new bolter is 3m
hearty nebula
tho i DEFINITELY think they should buff assault chainsword more, like give it Un...
just up it's flak damage a smidge ngl
otherwise it's fine imo
gilded thorn
switched my bolter to pinning and FF
flak and maniacs
bolter for hordes is funny ngl
zinc talon
oh my GOD is it my BIRTHDAY
grave anvil
yeah i guess it comes down on whether you want something more generalized and mo...
I often go shroud left tree with the knife and that build is busted. The damage, bleeds and constant get out of jail free card virtually means you're immune to death up to aur maelstrom anyway. One backstab in stealth (basically infinite stealth and just start light spamming for crit fishing) one shots a crusher
zinc talon
I never thought I'd live to see the day the bolter firing single rounds from the hip
I thought I'd just never get it
and yesterday I did
empty python
just up it's flak damage a smidge ngl
I would like it to be a bit better as an option for vet tho. Currently it's mostly great for zealot, good on vet but not as good as some of their other options
zinc talon
fatshark you beautiful fucking train wreck
I'd kiss every single one of you
except all the men
gilded thorn
ya they cooked with this
faint vapor
I never thought I'd live to see the day the bolter firing single rounds from the...
yeah it's a lot of fun to use c:
zinc talon
I am totally sold
faint vapor
been using Pinning Fire + Shattering Impact for Aurics
zinc talon
bolt pistol OG variant for fun and cuz it scratches my ever itchy judge dredd need
new bolter variant for THE EMPRAAAAAAAAAAAAH
there's a non zero chance I'll be watching the sun come up tomorrow morning
gilded thorn
been using Pinning Fire + Shattering Impact for Aurics
shattering procs on all aoe enemies?
hearty nebula
I would like it to be a bit better as an option for vet tho. Currently it's most...
ngl i prefer chainsword on vet
gilded thorn
feels like a waste on this mark tho, seems like its trynna be a horde killer
faint vapor
shattering procs on all aoe enemies?
from what I hear yeah it does. I don't have the debuff tracker mod I can't personally say I see it
faint vapor
feels like a waste on this mark tho, seems like its trynna be a horde killer
Shattering impact into flame nade some crushers
empty python
shattering procs on all aoe enemies?
aint gonna lie tho, I have a feeling that's not intended lol
faint vapor
na it totally is UwU
empty python
it's like the whole dog arbie thing
hearty nebula
aint gonna lie tho, I have a feeling that's not intended lol
probably not
faint vapor
it was just never worth it on the old bolter due to small AOE
gilded thorn
hmm, ill give it a try on havoc
faint vapor
but now with big AOE 🤔
empty python
it was just never worth it on the old bolter due to small AOE
u mean shattering or pinning fire?
hearty nebula
if it was intentional then the new mark would apply bleed too 🚬
faint vapor
u mean shattering or pinning fire?
Shattering
hearty nebula
they fucked something up with the bolters p bad
faint vapor
Pinning Fire was way too good to not use
gilded thorn
it's like the whole dog arbie thing
if only it procced puncture
faint vapor
yeah sadly no Puncture synergy
empty python
Shattering
I think shattering was great on old Bolter tho, with puncture mostly.
gilded thorn
so whats the verdict?
empty python
I always either go Surgical Puncture, or Shattering Puncture on old Bolter
faint vapor
I think shattering was great on old Bolter tho, with puncture mostly.
it wasn't due to crushers dying faster than you got value but now with the higher hp...
gilded thorn
pinning fire fire frenzy or pf and shattering
hearty nebula
probably pinning fire + shattering
faint vapor
with the new bolter, I'd go Pinning Fire + Shattering
with the old bolter, I go Pinning Fire + Cavalade
empty python
it wasn't due to crushers dying faster than you got value but now with the highe...
well they do spawn a bit less ig lol
faint vapor
especially because the new bolter has a slower fire rate
empty python
with the old bolter, I go Pinning Fire + Cavalade
yeah i honestly dont know about cavalade, that thing barely gives you any crit tbh
faint vapor
yeah i honestly dont know about cavalade, that thing barely gives you any crit t...
yeah I'm not too familiar with the new Zealot changes sadly
gilded thorn
with the new bolter, I'd go Pinning Fire + Shattering
perks?
faint vapor
so idk if you can stack more crit to make it more consistent
empty python
doesnt change crit chance stuff, but cavalade on bolter as a whole is just meh imo
better off just take surgical I'd say
empty python
better crits
faint vapor
idk what would be best in Havocs
faint vapor
better crits
yeah that's my old bolter on my Vet
empty python
idk what would be best in Havocs
still Unyielding Cara I'd say
faint vapor
ah ok
I wasn't sure if you can get 1-taps on specialists or something with Maniac
fucking 1000 hp tox bombers
empty python
eh they die from like 2 shot with puncture anyway
tis why I like puncture, they hit those breakpoints
faint vapor
yeah I'm more familiar with the Vet breakpoints so a bit ignorant when it comes to Zealot lol
especially now that they just got a rework :p
empty python
I usually just leave Crushers with my Thunderhammer FotF lol
gilded thorn
I usually just leave Crushers with my Thunderhammer FotF lol
ah ah ah, its thunder hammer shroudfield now
empty python
ah ah ah, its thunder hammer shroudfield now
I play both tbh, shroudfield goated now tho
love my Piety FotF TH build still
gilded thorn
i wonder if a whole rev heavy from evisc still benefits the shroud backstab
hearty nebula
i need to try exe stance with new bolter
gilded thorn
thatd be nuts
empty python
i need to try exe stance with new bolter
idk what the fuck is up with new Bolter and exec stance on vet, but I tried it and it gave me like some INSANE vertical recoil
gilded thorn
i need to download the creature spawner so i can test
empty python
like the camera just pushes up
deft heron
Fatshark make the power sword available to Zealots, then give us a Mk with the backstab modifier like the knife pls
median steeple
ew what is this new steam store ui
misty nova
whats the go to blessings on tigrus now
or still same with perfect strike shred
...
Shred Perfect Strike
Bloodthirsty Rampage
grave anvil
love my Piety FotF TH build still
It is fun, but that's definitely a knife or dueling sword build since you don't get the huge mobility benefit and ease of crit fishing with thammer. It will one shot a monstrosity though, but they're also not that common/difficult to dispatch conventionally anyway.
empty python
MkIII evis seems better for the Punish Piety skill lol, Mk15 just has that push follow stab attack :/
grave anvil
Fatshark make the power sword available to Zealots, then give us a Mk with the b...
That looks like a power katana or just plain old katana - I'll have to Google that
Edit: Oh yeah the devil claw exists and I always forget about that weapon
lunar fable
mosquito gaming
plush estuary
mosquito gaming
suc.
lunar fable
empty python
holy hell, Relentless Fervor is ALSO goated
synergizes 100% with Unfaltering
giga mobile Thunderhammer
ok maybe I need to test that out a bit more, probably was JUST Unfaltering
exotic plaza
chat cs mkiv or mkiiig
empty python
cs?
empty python
oh chainsword
the blue one I'd say
better horde clear combo
ofc, green one is great too with cleave heavy, but blue one has horizontal push follow is nice and safe to use, so pick your poison
exotic plaza
mk4 have faster non rev single target combo off push and little better horde clear
the other one is also nice with push attack cleave
misty nova
heady rapids
red mesa
which boltgun mark is the new one lol
misty nova
which boltgun mark is the new one lol
Mk3
red mesa
ya ended up figuring it out in the meat grinder lul
it doesnt...feel great
the fire rate is super slow
whats its niche?
misty nova
Bigger Boom
red mesa
ya but doesn't seem super useful, i guess stagger helps make space?
misty ravine
Knocking things around because you don't have time to deal with their horseshit just this second
red mesa
it has much lower dmg/dps
exotic plaza
it just have extra cc really
misty nova
Yeah
young dawn
bruh with the new heavy eviscerator/chain weapon buffs a *auric crusher can get deleted in 0.5 seconds
misty ravine
Honestly the bolt pistol with the explosion radius blessing does that job better. Having less single target damage doesn't hurt as much because zealot bistol wasn't hitting breakpoints anyway
red mesa
does puncture apply on the bigger aoe?
for new bpistol
would puncture/lethal prox work
long oasis
I know disdain got buffed
it got moved to the start and it stacks now
so you can hit 1 enemy each attack and still get 25% damage
I think
runic grotto
But that's what it did before?
You attack and your next attack has a bit more damage
So it's just a bit more damage every other attack
runic grotto
It always stacked
red mesa
new tree is interesting, what have you guys been rocking
long oasis
hm
runic grotto
Looking at the description, nothing changed
runic grotto
I see everyone taking it now in many builds
It was always in about the same place
But now it's basically free because you want second wind anyway
long oasis
true
runic grotto
new tree is interesting, what have you guys been rocking
have not played zealot yet
long oasis
yea 7.5% is nutty
and we have more tdr now
- marty has toughness replenishment per wound
which works with ewew
@runic grotto shield of contempt buff
nerf
new
long oasis
10% is not a lot
runic grotto
I would take something like this
Just by looking at the tree ONCE
and last talent point into any of the red nodes
lunar fable
hearty nebula
i am genuinely kind of upset with how viable it is to just run a helbore lasgun and just
shoot stuff the whole game
long oasis
theyre trying to make elites an actual threat now
can helbore hit 1 shot on crushers?
spare talon
whats its niche?
hearty nebula
can helbore hit 1 shot on crushers?
No
But it'll 2/3-tap them very consistently
With MKV
hearty nebula
they didnt even change it besides adding an iron sight
no but you can also use marksman's focus now without feeling the urge to kill yourself
thats the only reason it's so
not hate inducing
lost pumice
Has the director been extra crazy today?
runic grotto
Chat, which hollow knight ending is cannon to silksong, godhome with flower or without flower?
open bramble
Has the director been extra crazy today?
Since the new patch dropped, yah
sullen forge
pubs are so funny
I got 20 revives in Gloriana
was the only one who didn't go down once
lost pumice
Chat, which hollow knight ending is cannon to silksong, godhome with flower or w...
I don't think they have said specifically. But hornet does talk about being trapped in a prison for a long time and that's why she loses her powers. In the very begging.
copper hawk
Yuck
runic grotto
I don't think they have said specifically. But hornet does talk about being trap...
It's the godhome ending, no doubt
But which one
Godhome with flower
Or without flower
eager topaz
Marty zealot is pretty goated right now
spare dome
love this
plush estuary
was really funny
spare dome
oh i didnt even notice they gave IJ its 20 stacks back
ripe quest
oh i didnt even notice they gave IJ its 20 stacks back
Use Eternally on it, makes it so you get like the easiest max stack procs ever
spare dome
i felt just a touch flightier and i couldnt figure out why
visual stream
It's a little weird that they were seemingly afraid of overbuffing zealot despite the fact that they also buffed every scab enemy to have a lot more health
ripe quest
It's a little weird that they were seemingly afraid of overbuffing zealot despit...
mmm. no. We deliberately were avoiding overbuffing Zealot. Buffs were with the upped health in mind.
Idea was to avoid a new Ogryn/Arbites
red mesa
lol kill counter is addicting
I just solo'd a DH in auric maelstrom with mk VI knife and stealth backstab, just to see if i could and it was ez lmao like i could before with a clean pull and good mechanics, but it was WAY easier it felt
spare dome
yea feels like everyone basically got an extra 15% damage or so across the board to get up to arby/oggy
those two got slightly touched around
and then elites got like 50-100% extra hp so
successful enough
eager topaz
Other than 2 1 wound curios for martyrdom, should the last slot be toughness or stamina?
ripe quest
toughness with the TDR and toughness replenishment on Martyr is really good
you still get max stacks
ripe quest
Can also run a 3rd wound curio and you get ~28% health remaining with max Martyr, this lets you work with UD/HR without losing any stacks
eager topaz
Thanks for the input 
eager topaz
I guess? Seems to be a safe choice.
eager topaz
But every weapon for marty has felt great with this update.
signal spoke
spare dome
So happy that Restoring Faith and BftE are finally together the way they belong, like two twix bars in their wrapper
ripe quest
Best source of damage as marty?
Depends on what kind of damage. Relic Blade, Crusher, Evis are all good generalists for it.
spare dome
Having fun with Chaxe12 marty personally
ripe quest
Could try Chainsword too! It got a nice pass of love this patch.
carmine falcon
Can also run a 3rd wound curio and you get ~28% health remaining with max Martyr...
thanks for this
carmine falcon
i was only running 2
glossy nimbus
I mean losing health to do more damage
carmine falcon
but this makes so much more sense
ripe quest
I mean losing health to do more damage
oooooo, yeah overheads and damage over time effects
If you eat a Mauler or Crusher overhead and ruin a bunch of enemies to max out HR you're set
deft heron
Just walked through a mob of enemies with heavy evisc martydom, no dodging no blocking, just swinging my thing. The heretics could take my toughness down enough to touch my hp
ripe quest
really though Martyr works out nicely if you just ride chip damage and save medicae for your team
get enough stacks for BPs as needed and just play normally
deft heron
I just wish we had some +2/3 wound curios
glossy nimbus
I avoid touching medicae unless I have a lot of corruption
deft heron
Then we really could get the party started
spare dome
all i know is kill
misty ravine
I just wish we had some +2/3 wound curios
13 Wound Martyrs with Bleed For the Emperor and Restoring Faith:
spare dome
i wanted as much scripture on my body as possible
misty ravine
You didn't literally nail scripture to your forehead
spare dome
dont got that one sadly, also didnt like it lmao
signal spoke
https://youtu.be/s3pDMUWlA6I?si=VYIlxdsvtOcgSGxl a brutal wolverine combat? Holy peak
lunar fable
funny facecloth
misty nova
i wanted as much scripture on my body as possible
Waiting for the day Fatshark releases a mummy made of parchment and purity seals
lunar fable
the hexorcist cowl is cool but i don't have a lot of body armors
misty nova
spare dome
Tutankhamen, the original reject.
copper hawk
Mummy
spare dome
playing this game at 144hz, oof
i can track so well now
i thought i was pretty good on my 60hz but now i feel like im hacking with my tknives
also flamer with RTX on is magic
what a great looking game
runic grotto
showoff
spare dome
i held onto my 1080Ti for a loooooong time
drowsy steppe
ooh thas beautiful
runic grotto
real gamers play with everything on lowest, FSR on performance at 40 fps
drowsy steppe
runic grotto
aka me
hearty nebula
nooboid..
drowsy steppe
Ive not finished an arbitrator drawing Im doing either really 💀
spare dome
FSR with low frames is a bad time
hearty nebula
i've had an idea for like
a year now almost i think
to do a drawing for my zealot but im just fuckin lazy lmao
drowsy steppe
this has been in limbo for awhile (Im doing other drawings xd)
copper hawk
Just have an artist do a c word for you
Dont say the c word
Bots will literally swarm your dms
thick radish
fellow priests
is this build alright
(running bleed eviscerator and stubby)
i have lost my way since the update
i do not remember what i had
misty ravine
"Generate 120 frames, and throw 80 of those frames away. I'm only wanting 40 frames per second."
misty nova
fellow priests
is this build alright
(running bleed eviscerator and stubby)
Needs duelist
thick radish
Needs duelist
what should i remove for it
misty nova
Vicious Offering
thick radish
got it
my strategy for zealot is use h.evis
just use special attack and saw through elites
visual stream
Idea was to avoid a new Ogryn/Arbites
That's what I figured. I think a couple of weapons got left in the dust though, and more probably would have if they didn't also get buffed
thick radish
and then just use +40% cleave on repeat hit for crowds
use stubby + knives for long distance elites
simple as
visual stream
Maybe I gotta experiment more but that seems like the outcome
thick radish
also demoknight gameplay thanks to left ability
feral ferry
what are the best blessings on flamer?
misty nova
Blaze Away Overpressure
feral ferry
thanks
feral ferry
Blaze Away Overpressure
penetrating flame any good?
misty nova
Like 3rd option
Well
It was mainly used for carapace reasons
But now crushers are bulky as shit
Might not be 3rd option
ripe quest
That's what I figured. I think a couple of weapons got left in the dust though, ...
If it were possible to do a full overhaul on weapon balance it'd be fire
visual stream
Showstopper meta when
Unironically though
We need more quirky blessings that do unique things instead of le +impact +damage +cleave
mighty root
fellow priests
is this build alright
(running bleed eviscerator and stubby)
id use this
lost pumice
For the mk 7 taxe, is the best single target damage just light spam?
plush estuary
dpeends on armor
obsidian prairie
Somehow needing to clutch with a DS zealot and arby on the team (twice)
I run into the cogitator hall on sycorax
Plasma cache and captain
lost pumice
dpeends on armor
For carapace. Or should I try to use my ranged for those
tiny ruin
So, how is zelly compared to arby right now?
mighty root
zealot outpreformed him before
plush estuary
in what way>?
mighty root
what way too
ripe quest
So, how is zelly compared to arby right now?
Zealot's performance went up and it was higher than Arbites in some categories. Survivability for Zealot is still worse though, but also better than before.
obsidian prairie
This is so sad
ripe quest
All weapons default to 50% stat
mighty root
This is so sad
obsidian prairie
All weapons default to 50% stat
Wait I'm playing with 50 stat weapons
tiny ruin
Zealot's performance went up and it was higher than Arbites in some categories. ...
Wait, survivability is zellies trademark?
mighty root
Wait, survivability is zellies trademark?
crit and dodging are
tiny ruin
in what way>?
General performance, I have 300lv arby but bored and want to create a zelly again
ripe quest
Wait I'm playing with 50 stat weapons
Like the internal stat. Stuff is usually a lerp between two points. Internally it's at 50% iirc because of a bug, instead of being set by the weapon properly.
ripe quest
Wait, survivability is zellies trademark?
Zealot used to have decent lethal toughness gen and ok non-lethal toughness gen. Both got bumped up a tier in potency and Martyrdom buffs toughness gen too now. Arbites though is kinda really tanky through their obscene TDR and toughness gen, moreso than Zealot still. Also their unqiue weapons are absurd.
obsidian prairie
Martyr did lose tdr though
ripe quest
Doesn't matter. We lost like 1.5% TDR and got a 1.25x toughness gen added and can get more base toughness now
tiny ruin
Eh, happy to hear zellies improvements after disappointment with veterans
obsidian prairie
tiny ruin
I am still between zellie and veteran for a new char tho
It seems veteran has the best damage now
but shadow VoC nerf is annoying
lunar fable
what did they nerf about it
i haven't looked into vet changes yet
also voc was very strong
lunar fable
ic
mighty root
thats fine tbh
tiny ruin
what did they nerf about it
cdr change now pereventxs immortal voc
lost pumice
I feel like 8 snipers a chaos spawn and a handful of plasma gunners and a captain is a tad excessive
mighty root
you throw shredders in hunting grounds and boom 3 vocs in a row
tiny ruin
I feel like 8 snipers a chaos spawn and a handful of plasma gunners and a captai...
not for ogryn
obsidian prairie
They marketed this entire block specificxally to me
spare dome
i feel like all the Psyker changes were for me personally
lost pumice
Speaking of ogryn I need to try out the ogryns shock maul since the buff
tiny ruin
Speaking of ogryn I need to try out the ogryns shock maul since the buff
ıts nice
bot op as pickaxes but much better
sad that cleaver got a debuff with bleed changes
lunar fable
i heard they got an overhead for the activation
lost pumice
That sucks. Cleaver was my favorite. Its still useable tho right?
broken light
stealh bonk is very fun on auric, i'm worried to try it on high havoc tho
tiny ruin
That sucks. Cleaver was my favorite. Its still useable tho right?
It is, just bleed debuffs
spare dome
havoc is a bit fucked up right now since people arent adjusting for the plasma gunners
broken light
true
spare dome
so im staying out for a couple days
tiny ruin
the real nerrf for ogryns is cleavers
spare dome
it's just people bitching about their existence and doing nothing to work around them lol
spare dome
same as tox bomber when they originally dropped
tiny ruin
forgot the weapons name
broken light
definitely was annoyed on my first few runs, after that i got used to it tbh
just have to focus the f out of them
tiny ruin
havoc is a bit fucked up right now since people arent adjusting for the plasma g...
you bring anti-plasma countermeasures, a veteran!
spare dome
i deffo learned real quick
that you don't want to be sawing a dude in half when there's ten plasma gunners in the dark
you will die
do not pass go
broken light
hearing all 4 or 5 charge at once when you are out of dodges is pain
or sawing someone in half lol
spare dome
aw man
i thought the lil flap on the death cult skin was from the legs
its on the body
that red on the front
i did this to myself, i shouldve just inspected the pieces lmao
broken light
i wouldn't have guessed that
spare dome
those pants are from a different set
itll have to do
it was still cheaper to buy the entire bundle than to buy all the parts minus the pants anyway
dont like the cheeks on the pants tho, looks hella silly
broken light
yeah i picked up the void farer hoods
broken light
lmao the cheek pads
lunar fable
north sedge
look at those add pads
fart vents
slate haven
Hey fellas, I need to make up a skill point
Would y’all keep Out Of Pocket, the ammo on backstab one, or Unseen Blade which is damage against guys that aren’t targeting you
spare dome
im legit trying to figure that out myself right now
feral ferry
best perks and blessing for mark X relic blade?
frozen kernel
Would y’all keep Out Of Pocket, the ammo on backstab one, or Unseen Blade which ...
Out of Pocket is lovely. Finally auto loading holster for zealot
spare dome
best perks and blessing for mark X relic blade?
cranial/rampage/wrath usually
probably carapace unyield for perks but many numbers have changed there
broken light
if you have to take one of the two i'd probably take out of pocket
spare dome
man all these fucken nodes nowadays that make your gun reload faster or differently or with less penalty, meanwhile my autistic ass has been anim canceling gun reloads for two years
what's that invincible meme with the jet fighter
feels like that
feral ferry
cranial/rampage/wrath usually
thanks
broken light
"look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power lol"
i only really anim canceled on the plasma
spare dome
"if ur gonna use the bolter u gotta take one motion, and at least one reload talent, preferrable two, always prepared from wepspec isnt a bad idea either"
me: kid named sprint canceling
man these new trees kick ass
best addition imo
frozen kernel
That one makes thammer very high octane
spare dome
makes a LOT of things high octane
chaxe12, evis
a reaper was running away from me and i ran at him like mike myers
chaxe above my head revving
thirsting for blood
wait no mike myers never runs, he just walks
frozen kernel
Weird that we still have the stacking one that builds up to uninterruptable but that at least is mostly stagger based isn’t it?
spare dome
uhhhh, it used to be
now its pretty shit for stagger
only 25%
they kinda overnerfed it ages ago
cause it used to be 30% per stack lmao
frozen kernel
Yeah but I mean like, the other talent’s main function is the stagger buildup and it was just a side benefit that you became uninterruptible at max stacks
spare dome
150% impact is deffo too much impact, but 25% max stack on a conditional aint it either
north sedge
they over buffed it then completely reverted it to launch punishment
frozen kernel
Rip lmao
frozen kernel
I hadn’t played the majority of the summer so I’m still catching up on EO working on Arbites again
spare dome
25% will almost never matter, and youll rarely hit 25% except in trash hordes
frozen kernel
The wallhacks revealing several plasma gunners about to snipe me through the wall is endearing
spare dome
as soon as carapace shows up kiss those stacks goodbye
frozen kernel
Fair does
spare dome
wait when did it get so late
sullen forge
sullen forge
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/laHfzeo9Af3cyxLwW?invite=c...
@plush estuary we HATE plasma gunners
plush estuary
1 min
spare dome
deez nuts?
sullen forge
so we put them in gay baby jail
spare dome
thats a lot of deez nuts
carmine falcon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/laHfzeo9Af3cyxLwW?invite=c...
why am i seeing so many stuns videos now 
people actually taking them after pathing got fixed
spare dome
because we're free
sullen forge
why am i seeing so many stuns videos now <:kek_k1:880226351137828934>
I always liked them
spare dome
(Im still only taking tknives lmfao)
frozen kernel
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/laHfzeo9Af3cyxLwW?invite=c...
The engine SCREAMING as you start dismantling enemies 
sullen forge
its just their pathing before hand was fucking miserable
carmine falcon
ill give stuns a spin
never been a fan
but im also not the biggest immo fan (its decent)
sullen forge
My gun is anti special, my melee is delete everything
lost pumice
Did I read somewhere they buffed auric missions?
spare dome
i like all the grenades but its too late for me now
sour hull
Stun nades are great for making space for rescuing teammates and the like
spare dome
2000hrs of tknives
sour hull
Oh I'm stunning it I'm stunning it so good 😂
carmine falcon
im over here storming my shit i got stuns on my shit im storming it
sullen forge
If you're calling me stupid for picking it I will not hear it from you of all people
🚬
sour hull
I play with them on the regular cuz I'm expecting my rando teammates to be kinda bad
plush estuary
sour hull
Or be able to make up for my own mistakes and shortcomings
plush estuary
the voiceline that crashes your game
slate haven
I’m fully addicted to throwing knives dude I physically cannot put down the cup
Like
I mean tbh plasma gunners kinda kill em for me
carmine falcon
voicelines crashing your game is wild
slate haven
But that’s like not that deep
plush estuary
voicelines crashing your game is wild
unsure the cause
sour hull
I kinda wish I could have run and gun on the infantry auto gun so I could do a big silly
slate haven
Top 10 reasons why agitator > fanatic
broken light
ammo black hole, but a very very fun one
long oasis
charge your phone
sour hull
Lol
cinder roost
charge your phone
no let it die, see if its affected by until death
carmine falcon
1.1k dmg noob!
slate haven
but grab inebriates instead of retributors
Since zealot lost his small toughness dmg resist nodes I’ve kinda been hurtin for it
I see the logic tho
long oasis
Since zealot lost his small toughness dmg resist nodes I’ve kinda been hurtin fo...
if you can get all 20 stacks reliably then I guess its ok
spare talon
1.1k dmg noob!
its marty
long oasis
but I dont think itll be consistent without inebriates
north sedge
That would be difficult
spare talon
and i got fucked by burster a lot
slate haven
Could drop PTU but it’s free damage
long oasis
which ones ptu
slate haven
Ima try out no retributive stance
long oasis
im a fake gamer
slate haven
Purge the unclean
long oasis
not the biggest deal
carmine falcon
on a serious note, im looking at the new nodes added in patch notes and i swear majority of them seem weird on paper but could fit into a niche build
long oasis
true
slate haven
which is way way way better
I can’t do the nod emoji
long oasis
arbite
long oasis
carmine falcon
plush estuary
thoughts on plasmers....
long oasis
instead of second wind you could try out ewew
spare talon
thoughts on plasmers....
i hate them
spare talon
doesnt work on them
slate haven
Uncool 😢
spare talon
gunner resist is awesomesauce
slate haven
Lies and deceit
spare talon
they should be specials
theyre supposed to be the ranged equivalent of maulers
but they just are too easy to be fucked by due to a variety of reasons
north sedge
Would be better if they fired a bit slower
plush estuary
carmine falcon
i still think a lot of people are being skill issued 
but u cant hear them or see them properly
hard nexus
they should be specials
true !
long oasis
they shoot at the same speed as shotgunners do they not
plush estuary
I found the new meta
long oasis
annoying af
carmine falcon
the build 2?
carmine falcon
MIDDLE GANG
lunar fable
a dr poo collab would go so hard
long oasis
yum
carmine falcon
what is a rumproast
plush estuary
idk
long oasis
leg and a buttcheek
void bison
I absolutely did NOT like hellraiser 2
carmine falcon
they should not spawn in packs
they can keep the dmg and all that but not spwn 10 at once
glossy nimbus
Two steps forward one step back as usual.
carmine falcon
game turns into bullet hell with them
lost pumice
Would relic blade work better with IJ or piety?
misty ravine
evisceratorbros we are so back
misty ravine
Would relic blade work better with IJ or piety?
IJ, since it's slow and has no crit blessings. It also has poor dodges and unless that changed in this patch, IJ has unlisted dodge buffs as well
spare dome
oh hey this event frame aint bad
lost pumice
IJ, since it's slow and has no crit blessings. It also has poor dodges and unles...
Cool thanks. That's what I was using it on pre patch. I didn't know if anything changed. It's been fun on martyr too
long oasis
fuuuck i missed 4206.9
that just means its time to get to 6969.69...
misty ravine
Cool thanks. That's what I was using it on pre patch. I didn't know if anything ...
Martyr makes everything fun, but increased attack speed isn't as good on relic blade as other weapons since it also causes it to overheat faster
lost pumice
Is there any weapon you wouldn't use with martyr
long oasis
not really
misty ravine
I wouldn't use the dclaw with martyr, or anything else for that matter
long oasis
maybe taxe because its too fast and you become a blur
long oasis
I wouldn't use the dclaw with martyr, or anything else for that matter <:KEKW_og...
dlcaw is a special case
lost pumice
I was thinking of using taxe lol.
spare dome
yea i was just doing knife
not martyrdom but IJ and even then
that push attack node is great
copper hawk
it's so loud i can hear it
like
the boom
and feel it
we did pt 2day and it nearly killed me
and BOOM it was like immediatelly pouring rain
misty ravine
Anyways this one change made Eviscerator feel so much better against Rager packs etc. and Bloodthirsty stonks are going to the moon
spare dome
can anyone ... for even a second explain why ... just why?
what is this going for?
why the cooldown?
long oasis
boss
spare dome
why only 50% and a cooldown?
long oasis
for thammer yes probably
sour oracle
for thammer yes probably
yup
long oasis
anything else idk
spare dome
deffo for knife i am racking up hits way too quickly
one extra flash of 50% that triggers off any backstab is just wasted
sour oracle
for knife yeah
you cant rly pay attention to that cos its so quick
for thammer you spend like half that duration stealthing, positioning and charging heavy
so its way easier to get
spare dome
yea the setup seems believable
spare dome
but then its still just ... a thing that happens only once every 8 seconds, and will only be consequential on some of the things it goes off on
sour oracle
yeah its a specialized thing
do note that with against the odds and stealth, you can charge a regular heavy in mixed horde and it does a lot
spare dome
gotta say, kinda evil that they tucked the +15% to elites node under a fucken revive node
misty ravine
zealots had to be tricked into helping teammates
stable cradle
trying to get zealot players to pick something that isnt just damage or tdr
carmine falcon
trying to get zealot players to pick something that isnt just damage or tdr
they added billion new quirky funny haha nodes
but i dont see most in builds posted here
dt players yearn for dmg maxxing
misty ravine
they yearn for one true build
glossy nimbus
Dude I want Iven punished so fucking bad
I want him put down
I want him made a servitor
I hate his smug, twink, ass so much.
lost pumice
If I wanted to use evis for martyrdom, would perfect strike/shred still be the way to go? Or would something like savage sweep/rampage be better
glossy nimbus
@plush estuary Does swinging your mouse actually make it hit more enemies
misty ravine
If I wanted to use evis for martyrdom, would perfect strike/shred still be the w...
rampage/bloodthirsty (for mkxv)
mighty root
btw did you ever get a followup on this
It can, @obsidian prairie ran into this same issue you just gotta have duelist
spare dome
If I wanted to use evis for martyrdom, would perfect strike/shred still be the w...
take piety if you wanna do crit stuff. for martyrdom i just do wrath/rampage
mighty root
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/te...
@wooden river try this
lost pumice
take piety if you wanna do crit stuff. for martyrdom i just do wrath/rampage
Thanks. I typically use evis with piety but I wanted to try something else.
mighty root
Tac axe psyker is DEAD
I refuse to believe it
misty ravine
seriously, bloodthirsty evis mk15 is better than ever
mighty root
I’m pretty sure you can stack a ton of finesse and damage
lost pumice
I'll try it too. I haven't used the mk15 much.
obsidian prairie
I’m pretty sure you can stack a ton of finesse and damage
Oh you can totally hit it with gaze
spare dome
im gazin while i hit it
wooden river
It can, <@785997625928581162> ran into this same issue you just gotta have dueli...
gotcha gotcha
Yeah Rotten Armour is making breakpoints annoying to test right now too
open bramble
What is the best weapon since they nerfed ds?
plush estuary
dfeine best
obsidian prairie
Go find it
plush estuary
define
spare dome
most sexiest
open bramble
Oh no, did I walk into a mine field?
royal cape
So. Got to using Unfaltering
I dunno. I like the idea, but i need to get a larger weapon. Still need to figure out distances ig.
misty ravine
What is the best weapon since they nerfed ds?
ds not nerfed, ds now stronger than ever
runic grotto
What is the best weapon since they nerfed ds?
ds
copper hawk
erm
mighty root
What is the best weapon since they nerfed ds?
Ds user spotted
Tac axe
Tac axe is the best
mighty root
Chainsword is pretty cool now lol
full nebula
i imagine
carmine falcon
fun fact playing meta causes your pp to shrink by 10 inches
full nebula
they didnt do anymore changes because of how powerful the trees are now
obsidian prairie
fun fact playing meta causes your pp to shrink by 10 inches
Oh shit real
full nebula
need to see whats busted, if anything still needs bumped
runic grotto
chainsword is new meta
What's the difference between cs and evis? Why ever take cs over evis?
misty ravine
faster swings, more mobile
mighty root
I believe the only thing I’d be happy with is a small scab bruiser nerf and plasma gunner tweaks
carmine falcon
What's the difference between cs and evis? Why ever take cs over evis?
different playstyles
open bramble
Plasma gunner is so brutal lol
mighty root
What's the difference between cs and evis? Why ever take cs over evis?
Read patch notes
full nebula
take bolter or something for armor and bosses and chainswords probably pretty viable now
spare dome
Oh shit real
what am i gonna do with this tiny eight incher
runic grotto
Read patch notes
What am I gonna find there?
mighty root
What am I gonna find there?
Massive Chain weapon buffs
median steeple
runic grotto
Massive Chain weapon buffs
but, like, why take chains sword instead of evis
mighty root
but, like, why take chains sword instead of evis
Different play styles
Atm
I actually like the chain sword over the evis
carmine falcon
evis = big fella, hits hard
chord = smol fella , swings fast
full nebula
chainsword is better mobility, still probably 1-2shots most specialists, gunners, probably rev kills maulers. Just run a bolter or something that can deal damage to armor
carmine falcon
why eat apples over oranges
full nebula
Pretty much every weapon is extremely viable now, theres basically just different play styles with some standouts
runic grotto
why eat apples over oranges
Different play styles
open bramble
I think I need to experiment with the crusher more since they changed it
obsidian prairie
The last time they changed it was crafting update
open bramble
They just changed it
north sedge
it's not really different
obsidian prairie
Did they
north sedge
they let some of the attacks happen during sprint
open bramble
Sprints don’t cancel the heavies
north sedge
minor shit
open bramble
Yah, that’s big for me
north sedge
plays very much the same
open bramble
Nah
mighty root
I love the thunder hammer
obsidian prairie
It feels faster but I think that's because martyrdom is faster now
carmine falcon
they said something about adding slowness when blocking with crusher
but i didnt notice it
open bramble
I never block, sooo
carmine falcon
u need to enter block state to do push attack
long oasis
why block on crusher when you can topple everything with lights
obsidian prairie
Crusher is definitely really fun right now though
open bramble
u need to enter block state to do push attack
Shit, you are right
obsidian prairie
And it can drop like 5.5k on a Crusher with martyr
obsidian prairie
Huh
long oasis
no
carmine falcon
nope
obsidian prairie
When did I say that
runic grotto
they said something about adding slowness when blocking with crusher
what does this mean
long oasis
open bramble
Well they’ve nerfed it if the block comes out more slowly
glossy nimbus
Transition goals
carmine falcon
what does this mean
it means they're claiming entering block is "Slower" but i didnt notice shit
open bramble
it means they're claiming entering block is "Slower" but i didnt notice shit
Oh, that’s good then. I didnt notice anything when I tried it either
runic grotto
Either we don't understand the change, something is bugged or they forgot to actually change anything
carmine falcon
with speed bonuses this thing is nimble asf
obsidian prairie
Crusher feels even more nimble
runic grotto
All are equally likely to happen
obsidian prairie
Feels so much better with the goofy ass attack speed you can grt
Like 75% now?
30 martyr
10 ff
10 the new node
25 fotf
runic grotto
wasn't fotf 20?
lost pumice
seriously, bloodthirsty evis mk15 is better than ever
You were right. It was fun af
north sedge
It is 20
robust bane
I'm eating good this update
Losing loner was that big of a deal tbh, also I forgot I can add more damage...
obsidian prairie
Loner didn't do anything
runic grotto
loner is literally an aura that does nothing but promote shit gameplay
runic grotto
I guess it prevented specials from spawning behind your back
robust bane
It was alright if you imagined yourself on a metaphorical child leash, but still.
long oasis
someone else had the opposite opinion
If you played Knife zealot, loner is gone. Not a big deal. But now you can't even choose all 3 cooldown abilities. They're not based on damage you take. Several talents you're forced to take to get the talents from prior versions are deep in areas you can't reach. Or you're forced to pick talents that are utterly useless to you. Like at the very start of the tree
It's absolute fucking garbage. They didn't just take a few things away, they took everything away
robust bane
but the newer perk it got replaced with is better
north sedge
Rip loner, you will be forgotten
obsidian prairie
Rest in piss loner
runic grotto
> If you played Knife zealot, loner is gone. Not a big deal. But now you can't e...
lmao
long oasis
> If you played Knife zealot, loner is gone. Not a big deal. But now you can't e...
and no one knew wtf he was talking about
robust bane
RIP Loner, you won't be a disgrace to Knife Zealots anymore
obsidian prairie
Never again will we have such a strong self report
misty ravine
someone else had the opposite opinion
You know what they say, opinions are like assholes—most people's aren't worth looking into
obsidian prairie
Except beacon
carmine falcon
> If you played Knife zealot, loner is gone. Not a big deal. But now you can't e...
skill issue
runic grotto
Rest in shit loner, you will not be missed
misty ravine
Rest in shit loner, you will not be missed
Chat can I get a #RIPBOZO
runic grotto
