zealot-class

[worldly agate]

I was wrong I had 130 hours not 80

[long cosmos]

Goontide

[ripe quest]

I actually dislike it quite a bit, but I think I'm quite the outlier bc I find basically any stamina buffs to be a waste outside of very specific cases where stamina is needed, primarily on vet. Zealous is better than Loner but worse than FiF imo.

[heady rapids]

are we talking about the same martyrdom that now gives toughness replenishment

[thorny stump]

I like HD2 but the DT subreddit is filled with people constantly glazing that game for some reason

[spare talon]

I dont use relic blade

[acoustic dune]

i aint staaying neutral with the collab they dropped

[solar gorge]

now you see the light of wewe

[worldly agate]

still game got borijg real fast and balance is trash

[acoustic dune]

it being mega shit

[copper hawk]

It's good on normal mode

[acoustic dune]

like

[elfin thorn]

what is the enemy without?

[copper hawk]

Probs not in havoc

[acoustic dune]

THE SPARTAN LASER IS RIGHT THERE

[copper hawk]

Less tness equals less returned

[placid fiber]

no regen

[copper hawk]

And there's no tneas break grace period in hav

[acoustic dune]

ANY CONVENENT WEAPON WOULD DO

[copper hawk]

So mefinkz second wind is still peam

But ewew doesnt hurt

[acoustic dune]

BUT NO.......
THEY ONLY PICKED THE HUMAN WEAPON

[carmine falcon]

cole do u like the perk that reduces incoming dmg by 40% if the dmg removes a wound

[copper hawk]

If u have the points for it

[spare talon]

I still use second wind in havoc yes

[solar gorge]

i run both

[copper hawk]

It feels like

[spare talon]

But ewew is the heavy lifter there

[acoustic dune]

i need to calm down

[copper hawk]

An old faithful frenzy sorta deal

It's great to have it

[acoustic dune]

imma go play a game about managing the slave market

mount n blade here i come

[copper hawk]

But there are some build critical talents you should get first

And use the point on ff if u can

Sorta deal

[elfin thorn]

any non-super earth weapon would be dissidence 🧠

in other words, idk anything about halo lol

[violet hornet]

Knify when's the last time you spoke to your democracy officer?

[carmine falcon]

im thinking about dropping some "fun" talent for annoint in blood on new bolter

[acoustic dune]

no anti tank weapon

[median steeple]

Because it was an ODST collab they're gonna use the human weapons that are iconic

[ripe quest]

Somewhat related but as I recall a fairly big hit to performance is that each enemy loads the entire texture library. Also lighting for individual particles and terrain deformations being inefficient.

[acoustic dune]

when i was haggling him for big cash at the slave market

[solar gorge]

new vet tree did magic for my helbore build that was already strong af

[median steeple]

like im sorry glorp shitto plasma rifle isn't has iconic to ODST as you know the two main ODST weapons and the 2 really iconic human weapons that have been there since CE

[elfin thorn]

sounds about right

[acoustic dune]

other then that when i saw him in a coffee shop

[heady rapids]

the odst collab is bait for both halo fans and people that wanted a stealth warbond

[violet hornet]

Yes but how else will they shoehorn you into taking the recoilless rifle yet again while they add another strategem that doesn't fit the niches they demand?

[elfin thorn]

i think another mix of it was enemies each registering their own line of sight check

[heady rapids]

get your dog shit iconic weapons now !!!

[median steeple]

the stealth works unironically

[copper hawk]

I think i might uninstall hd2

After the war striders and roaches were dropped

[elfin thorn]

so that's why we can't super spam units past what would be conditional for a "d11 and up"

[copper hawk]

Design direction is obviously in the shitter

Let's drop enemies with no weak spots guys

[elfin thorn]

true

[violet hornet]

Helldivers needs difficulty 15 like the og had

[copper hawk]

That totally go against the design philosophy of both factions

[elfin thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204540553971372072/1338833190856429710/Slugger.gif

[violet hornet]

Turn me into mist while I'm still in the hellpod damnit

[misty nova]

Better late than never

[copper hawk]

Shoot the wings to disable the flyer like blowing limbs off other bugs to slow them? Nope

[misty nova]

🗣️

[heady rapids]

3 fps

[copper hawk]

Shoot sack to stop spit? Nuh uh

[acoustic dune]

GOD PREASE JUST ADD TTHE HELLDIVER 1 ARSENAL

[copper hawk]

Spawn them in droves? Absolutely

[violet hornet]

Trident my beloved....

[median steeple]

I assume the balacing patches are goining over striders, fleshmobs, and certain bug strains

[acoustic dune]

theres no cooldown on reinforcement

[violet hornet]

Generous lmao

[heady rapids]

they gonna make the bugs fatter

[acoustic dune]

the air is filled with bots

[heady rapids]

200gb

[solar gorge]

i don't get warstrider hate but i understand roach slander and such

myes

[acoustic dune]

per spawn

[placid fiber]

so light stuff

[median steeple]

this doesn't even make sense anymore 😭 the slugger has been good for months and is one of the best shotguns still

[violet hornet]

Striders at least don't one shot you through terrain

[median steeple]

you fuckers are creating demons to be mad at

[acoustic dune]

micro actually

[copper hawk]

Automatons clearly designed w grunt fantasy in mind w the highly efficient ability to just headshot weakspot all bots

[heady rapids]

maybe go buy a console

[violet hornet]

They go around the terrain, much more polite

[copper hawk]

W a rail or amr

[solar gorge]

striders die in one shot so it's like wa

[copper hawk]

Naaaaah

War stride rno weak spot

[median steeple]

I refuse to listen to OhDough

[copper hawk]

U will eats on every front and u will like it

[median steeple]

I hate that fucking fraud

[solar gorge]

u shouldn't

[elfin thorn]

back when slugger had 20 spread, those were funny times

[solar gorge]

he's a shitter

[copper hawk]

U vill have eatz. And u vill be heppy.

[elfin thorn]

ohdough sucks ass yeah lol

[copper hawk]

Eat ze eatz .

[drifting wolf]

frequently spawns and encourages bringing anti-tank to deal with them despite there being a visible eye and vents that aren't considered weakspots for some reason

[violet hornet]

I've been maining punisher and slugger doesn't feel that different tbh. I think people just compare it to old slugger which as op

[north sedge]

someone told me all the warstrider hate and then when i finally played and one shot one i was just like "oh ok yea that was real rough"

[placid fiber]

Spoken like a true floran

[copper hawk]

We hate metas but we're going to obliterate any non explosive weapon to rei force the explosive meta

[elfin thorn]

anyone got that gif of him and adjudicator?

[visual stream]

I am at least thankful for EATS coming in clutch for people who like running FUN support weapons

[median steeple]

warstriders just need their grenades nerfed and to stop having the fucking cannon turret as a projectile

[solar gorge]

OhDough turned his coat more times than i can count

[drifting wolf]

but their actual role on the battlefield is to drive you out of cover with grenade spam

[copper hawk]

Also

[elfin thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-issue-miss-judy-gif-17724365724707989272

[misty nova]

What a recoil control

[copper hawk]

The liberarors seaf troopers

[misty nova]

😭

[copper hawk]

HAVE MEDIUM PEN !!!!

[median steeple]

THE NORMAL LIB DOESNT NEED MEDIUM RAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[solar gorge]

i get the eyse being not considered weakspot and such but they still p weak in the legs and groin

[copper hawk]

YES IT DOES

[violet hornet]

Was this while recoil was bugged lol

[median steeple]

I agree ARs are in the shitter but the normal lib does NOT need medium pen

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/promotional-shopper-bags-custom-usb-drive-ballpoint-pens-gif-16217078

[solar gorge]

accessible to railguns and the likes

[copper hawk]

DURABLE DAMAGE TOTALLY OBLITERATES DAMAGE

[solar gorge]

bc legs arfe so weak

[heady rapids]

nerf coyote

[copper hawk]

it's absolutely fucked

The liberator pen should be a baseline

[elfin thorn]

far as i know nope

[copper hawk]

And the pen should be changed

All ars need medium pen

[median steeple]

is bleed for emps even worth it

can't tell half the time

[copper hawk]

Especially w medium armor spam present on two on the 3 fronts

[violet hornet]

Arf? Do we need to quarantine you with cica?

[solar gorge]

typoooooooooo

[copper hawk]

Aaawoof

Awoof !!

Wwruuff !!

[heady rapids]

big question

[copper hawk]

Ahem.

[gaunt roost]

every non pen liberator is legit cbt

[median steeple]

the only thing I agree with ohdough on is that bug and bot seeds are dogshit

[gaunt roost]

worthless weapons

[heady rapids]

why is arrowhead making units for bugs and bots while squids are still unfinished

[drifting wolf]

guaranteed 1-shot from the harder hitting anti tank weapons, it's just that there's not always going to be scenarios where non-anti tank heavy weapons will be able to deal with multiple warstriders quickly

[copper hawk]

It's a fucking assault rifle

[median steeple]

skill fucking issue ngl

[violet hornet]

Heretical felinid code speak

[copper hawk]

It's meant to penetrate armor

Like wtf

[median steeple]

the lib carbine is an insane gun

[copper hawk]

All should be medium pen

Minimum

[misty nova]

Never

[gaunt roost]

is that the green one

[misty nova]

[copper hawk]

Or they need to rework enemy armor

[solar gorge]

cica that's literally a reddiot take im' sorry

[thorny stump]

I like it tbh

[copper hawk]

Why

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359538506730700800/1330836631254466591/GIF_20250120_034923_211.gif

[median steeple]

fuck your irony posting and give me numbers

[drifting wolf]

do not speak ill of base lib even if its just a worse tenderizer overall

[misty nova]

Hey man

Light pen is good
You're just skill issue'd

[copper hawk]

They want realism but they also want fun

[violet hornet]

They should at least tell you if your light pen weapon won't work against 90% of the enemies you're deploying against

[median steeple]

I only say skill issue when it comes to the lib carbine because it's a monster

other light pen weapons are

[copper hawk]

They nerf made up plasma weapons counter to lore established in other games they borrow from or from their previous title

[median steeple]

not great most of the time

[copper hawk]

Eg laser and plamma weapons

Cuz muh realism

[misty nova]

It's essentially x1.25 hp

Or something like that

[copper hawk]

But let rupture enemies burrow at running speeds

[median steeple]

so not terribly worth it

[copper hawk]

Kr roaches fly on swiss cheesed wings

It's realistic that every assault rifle has armor medium armor pen

[violet hornet]

Yeah the rupture enemies are what got me out of that game lmao

[copper hawk]

It's literally the purpose of an assault rifle

[violet hornet]

One game hosting with launch state rupture warriors was enough helldiving for quite a while for me

[copper hawk]

Otherwise it uses sub caliber ammo and that's called a submachine gun

Which we have

So which is it

Realism or balance

Pick one arrowhead

[solar gorge]

burrow strain and roachers sadly outsourced ennemies rushed with no polish, aura but actual coal

those things were not made by the same ppl who made the rest

[violet hornet]

And then we have a medium armor pen smg and most of the assault rifles are light pen

[median steeple]

normal gloom strain is cooler

[solar gorge]

i refuse to believe it

[copper hawk]

Yes

Absurd

Braindead

Totally devoid of any design direction

Durable damage needs to be tweaked massively

Or ARs need to be heavily reexamined

[drifting wolf]

why does the flying enemy not get grounded when 75% of its wing membranes are missing or raddled with bullet holes

[ripe quest]

If you take big enough hits for damage to pass a wound threshold you basically have 66% more health at all times. So it's good for fuckups in melee but small chip sometimes won't proc it. Really good for full wound Martyr.

[violet hornet]

Marksman rifles with shit pen

[copper hawk]

Why do some ARs do the least damage to other weapons even smgs

[gaunt roost]

they’re bees

[heady rapids]

no one outside reddit knows what durable damage is

[copper hawk]

Why do dmrs have like no pen

Why

WHY !!!!

[median steeple]

hmmm ok

[ripe quest]

I was one of the founding fathers of that info which is kinda funny to think about

[median steeple]

just trying to make a hav marty build

[copper hawk]

Exhil knows durable damage ,,

[gaunt roost]

i don’t know how damage works or armor works or pen works i shoot the enemy and if it dies it dies

[copper hawk]

He was almost decapitated for his knowledge

[solar gorge]

arm technically they have pen, they pen light armor

[copper hawk]

How DARE U datamine our shitty game and inform the playerbase

That's..uhm.. TOXIC O ALGO !!!

[heady rapids]

exhil almost getting banned for that tells you a lot

arrowhead wants to keep you in the dark

[sullen forge]

Lmao

[ripe quest]

I actually have more info on why that happened

[solar gorge]

do tell

[median steeple]

I don't think every gun needs medium pen then it'll get boring BUT they need to stop spamming medium enemies

[copper hawk]

Cuz they know that shit is piratesoftware coded

[ripe quest]

was basically because I was fairly open about how I datamined info so when I brought it up in the presence of a dev it was a huge legal problem

[median steeple]

why is are there more hive guards than fucking warriors

[placid dust]

Damn i dont use thunderhamer cause its slow and clunky 😂

[copper hawk]

Every gun that is designed realistically to pen armor should have medium pen

[warped trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/soyjak-soy-jak-wojak-janny-jannies-gif-15466832601490157936

[copper hawk]

If they want realism

If not then make enemies and guns less realistic

Or whatever the fuck they think realism is

[heady rapids]

Why'd they make the war strider not have a weakspot when literally every other bot does

[copper hawk]

Swedish fudds whove never touched a damn rifle in their lives let alone qualified on one

[ripe quest]

basically sony needs to be obliterated

[heady rapids]

why do a 180 on that design philosophy

[median steeple]

illuminate designer

[copper hawk]

Holy shit i sound like some military fudd rn

My queer ass

[solar gorge]

guards still not bad for lightpen

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-plead-pead-judge-dredd-judge-joseph-dredd-gif-15700304

[spare talon]

This update was a gamechanger for it
And the damage reflects that lmao

[copper hawk]

Hmm let's drop a good smh

[median steeple]

they're just annoying

[copper hawk]

Oh the playerbase likes it

Make it two handed and ruin yet another unique playstyle

[spare talon]

It may not be the best
But its good to use now
And you arent sandbagging with it

[copper hawk]

U vill do explosive meta. And u vill be heppy.

We dont like metaz btw

:D

[empty python]

anyone knows what counts as "flanking hit"?

[solar gorge]

side and rear

[median steeple]

@spare talon can I grub your Martyr build when you have the chance

[heady rapids]

Ranged damage from 180°

Flanking is ranged 180 backstab is melee 120

[copper hawk]

What i just said and because they have no design direction whatsoever

[empty python]

oh it only counts to ranged?

oh

[copper hawk]

Why do they drop roaches w no weakspots

[heady rapids]

Flanking is the keyword for ranged

[solar gorge]

imagine the tf2 backstab radius since u have a spy pfp

[ripe quest]

Flanking is ranged, backstab is melee

[copper hawk]

U shoot their wings and they dont go to the ground

[carmine falcon]

HELLO please give big thundie a blessign where it does a big AOE on a fully charged hit haha thanks

[empty python]

ah ic

[solar gorge]

but for ranged

[empty python]

cool

[copper hawk]

U blow up their spew sack like bile titans and they still spew

Totally mindless design

War striders have inf ammo btw

[placid dust]

Yea but it doesnt change the fact that it is slow and clunky 😑

[spare talon]

This shit is always so cool

[copper hawk]

Only ballistic enemy in the game on bots where this is the case

[median steeple]

suicide upon you

[copper hawk]

Every other missile firing enemy either has to reload or runs out of ammo

[violet hornet]

Cole shadow banned from James lantern

[spare talon]

Thats what I mean
It doesnt feel slow and clunky any more
Max marty, unfaltering, easy cdr, all make it feel quick and snappy

[carmine falcon]

is james lantren related to james workshop

[solar gorge]

the missile tank has infinite ammo and no reload but everybody forgot about it cuz it barely does anything

[median steeple]

I'm a certified gameslanter hater

that stupid fuck ass ogryn looking at me

die

[empty python]

holy crap you can 1-shot burgle with shroud TH lol

nice

[violet hornet]

See that shit once in 10 missions and it always manages to one shot me somehow lol

[empty python]

not sure how it is in H40, but I think it's gonna be a lot of dmg

[violet hornet]

Who makes an artillery tank healthier than the main battle tanks?

[placid dust]

Ok but in practice with the same build relic shoud be good aswell right?

[solar gorge]

it's main gun is AV3 so it dies to a light breeze

[spare talon]

Basically

[gaunt roost]

which are those

[copper hawk]

Striders w one eyeball peeper

Two twin guns

[placid dust]

Link your hammer build i will try it out

[copper hawk]

Missile/grenade launchers

[heady rapids]

the only enemy that doesn't have a weakspot in the bot roster

[median steeple]

I love the solo silo they just need to make it so enemies wont beline to it

[copper hawk]

Spawn in packs instead of hulks on seeds

[violet hornet]

Swear that thing will survive a thermite or recoilless shot that would have ended a shredder or annihilator tank but maybe I need to aim at turrets more

[copper hawk]

Twin laser cannons can ragdoll you

[heady rapids]

I saw it getting destroyed by its own droppod cap

[empty python]

I wonder what 75% -threat vs 90% -threat is like

[spare talon]

IM TRYING

[copper hawk]

Hey can u stop being toxic

And link a noob ur build

[solar gorge]

rr round should kill anywhere since it's a 1 shot on the entire body of any tank

[copper hawk]

Vro.

Ban cole guyz ?

[solar gorge]

body and turret

[gaunt roost]

oh i haven’t played bots since before they were added

[copper hawk]

DONT MPREG ME !!

[violet hornet]

Is it this still?
#zealot-class message

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/struggle-sisyphus-gif-4952086791107433131

[copper hawk]

Killz u

Mby they know my ao3 quiz test resultz..

Is it ovar 4 an ouppy ??

[carmine falcon]

Epic Lol.....

[copper hawk]

Wut dis world come 2.

[carmine falcon]

epic troll

[warped trellis]

only i know

forbidden knowledge

[empty python]

Thunderhammer is bussin this patch, I love the Unfaltering so much, and I wasn't even using FotF this match

this is H38

[solar gorge]

unfaltering is peak

[empty python]

Unfaltering is love

[spare talon]

Thats not it

[solar gorge]

i will never stop glazing it

[spare talon]

Can someone send me a single screenshot of the full zealot tree

[empty python]

why do you need to say it lol, who NOT glazes it

[spare talon]

So i can just trace it

[empty python]

1 sec

[solar gorge]

i've seen some takes

[spare talon]

Gameslantern hates my phone

[empty python]

there

[solar gorge]

is that a mod

[gaunt roost]

why’s it squishy

[empty python]

yes

[signal spoke]

yes

[empty python]

smaller skill tree mod

[spare talon]

Guh
Its gonna suck on the squished tree but ok

[solar gorge]

looking at the squished tree upsets me

[signal spoke]

scale down the skill tree to be more easier to click on nodes

[solar gorge]

i hate mods

[violet hornet]

Have you tried switching to "desktop site" in your mobile browser settings?

[empty python]

lol

[spare talon]

Doesn't work
Issue is the actual loading kf the tree i already tried

[solar gorge]

modders are NOT gettting raptured unlike me

[spare talon]

Awesome zealot tree

[copper hawk]

U will take it 2 ur grave

[misty nova]

[copper hawk]

Or ill wrap my handz around ur tipid neck and kill u .

[pale spindle]

The build has returned

[visual stream]

Rapture was yesterday pal

[misty nova]

Providence might actually be useful

[copper hawk]

This is what i run for book

With the chord 13g

Wrath shred

[spare talon]

Can someone just send a blank zeal tree for GL

[solar gorge]

IM EU IT WAS DELAYED OK

[copper hawk]

It is mindless

[violet hornet]

Desperation

[copper hawk]

Actually really nice

Spamming push

[misty nova]

They already did?!?!

[copper hawk]

Especially w how shitty the block stamina efficiency w the uh

[spare talon]

ITS TOO SQUISHED I CANT

[copper hawk]

Chird is

[violet hornet]

Is the one I linked not right?

[copper hawk]

U block one attack and ur at like 53 stam

Like wtf

[spare talon]

YOU SENT THE ARBITES TREE

[solar gorge]

ragebait successful

[copper hawk]

Epic_Noob strikez again

Go back 2 dorncord

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-zoot-gif-2874355027002506295

[copper hawk]

Spits on u

[misty nova]

?

There

Now you have the lit version

And the unlit version

[violet hornet]

Me when I forget other classes exist

[solar gorge]

imma try the new botler in the stead of my venerable flamer with my thammer build

i am convinced

but still hate it

deep prejudice

[misty nova]

Bro thinks midbtrator is goatedlot

[sullen forge]

Hawk spituah

https://tenor.com/view/spit-gif-5080568167377406268

[spare talon]

Thammer
Go duellist for a weapon with better finesse

[north sedge]

kayak tony's coin

[plush estuary]

Ainz

[misty nova]

Free finesse

[north sedge]

(this was stan trying to type hawk tuah coin)

[misty nova]

[sullen forge]

Galeophobia

[plush estuary]

Ainz

[frosty herald]

ryken doesnt run iron will on vet

[misty nova]

Nice straight lines

[solar gorge]

stan stolze my name and never gave it back

[misty nova]

[placid dust]

who did 1.7mill dmg?

[empty python]

still experimenting, but this is TH Fury build im running for Havoc currently

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-yummers-gif-730693117818784194

[empty python]

psyker fire staff

duh

[sullen forge]

I saw that and actually said out loud while walking “Bro who the fuck is this”

[heady rapids]

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSD4Ns63T/

[sullen forge]

And then looked up and people are looking at me weird

LMAO

[spare talon]

Why piety for thammer tho

[frosty herald]

cole is gonna recreate the plagas symbol

[frosty herald]

reasonable reaction to not taking iron will

[empty python]

mostly for the dmg reduction, bleeding stuff, not the best finesse multiplier for TH but crit dmg is crit dmg lol.

[sullen forge]

Me or the people

[empty python]

plus, inf autogun crit

[frosty herald]

you

[empty python]

or ranged crit really

[misty nova]

Oh wow

[sullen forge]

Cause i genuinely have NEVER heard of this person

[spare talon]

Thammers crit mod is kinda awful tho

[hollow vector]

anyone got any updated stealth builds or know which talents are must-haves with the new tree?

[sullen forge]

Ever

[misty nova]

Stalwart is locked behind some 💀

[empty python]

it is not great, but it's still extra dmg

[heady rapids]

they want you to play martyrdom

[empty python]

I dont run it FOR that tho

[pale spindle]

Updated?

[spare talon]

Yeah its more damage, but its a chance of extra damage thats lower than the damage youd get from other keystones without the chance

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/Rs5PLJGHZaE?si=hLWltXuTx_QELnjG

[placid dust]

no dueslit ?

[spare talon]

Its thammer
Take duellist for relic blade

[frosty herald]

duelist isnt that good anymore

[hollow vector]

since the tree got a rework?

[misty nova]

Sustained Assault
Duelist
Riposte
The 10% cleave stacks 5
Disdain

[spare talon]

It was nerfed to finesse

[placid dust]

why?

[violet hornet]

Yeah duellist got taken out back

[pale spindle]

Who used stealth before then?

[misty nova]

Still free finesse

[spare talon]

It was nerfed to finesse

[frosty herald]

its changed to finesse

[sullen forge]

It’s bad now…

[spare talon]

Its still instapick for most weapons

[misty nova]

Like I've been doing since forever now

[placid dust]

bruh why they nerf my boy zealot so much

[misty nova]

Damn

[sullen forge]

Duelist is…

[misty nova]

Nothing ever happens

[sullen forge]

Useless…

[misty nova]

💀

[solar gorge]

it's not bad it's just weapon dependant

[copper hawk]

It not nerf

Zeal was NOT nerfed

[heady rapids]

just got jumpscared by a post on darktide reddit that had these

[copper hawk]

Zeal was massively buffed

[misty nova]

Because it got better

[sullen forge]

Zeal was nerfed…

[misty nova]

[violet hornet]

Literally unplayable....

[copper hawk]

But the upper levels of damage were nerfed

[spare talon]

But the ones who have really bad finesse dont really need it cuz it won't double down from a fotf hit

[copper hawk]

To deal w the other big zeal issue

[misty nova]

Good point

Unfortunately

Free finesse

[exotic plaza]

duellist get nerfed and zealot got a tons of good node so eh

[solar gorge]

snork mimi

[sullen forge]

Duelist got nerfed zealot is now the weakest class in game..

[exotic plaza]

it's s tradeoff for sure

[spare talon]

Purge just worked better for what I was using for pathing and I could spend the other point for something else

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/skibi-di-gif-3127588730399978483

[plush estuary]

They removed loner.... Nerfed....

[empty python]

I just like the Piety keystone, with the Stalwart and stuff, I can get crits out of my inf autogun, and being able to get Enduring Faith a lot. I USED to run Piety for the cdr ofc, but it's not as good for that anymore granted.

[signal spoke]

Purposely making an ugly character to make a point

[misty nova]

They removed my knife zealot build

[sullen forge]

My son…

Gone…

[misty nova]

No more loner

[solar gorge]

weakest class in the game is now arbites according to steam reviews

[misty nova]

No more

Uh

[plush estuary]

You should've seen it, someone complained they reworked Marty purpose and remove loner

[misty nova]

What was it again

[plush estuary]

Who has the copy pasta

[acoustic dune]

smh
therers no masterbaiter anymore these fays

[sullen forge]

I wish I saved it

Lmao

[plush estuary]

Same

[misty nova]

Mid still being mid huh

[solar gorge]

arbites is dead and fastashar ran with the bag

[misty nova]

🚬

[frosty herald]

no joke there are still people who believe that loner influenced spawns

[solar gorge]

stol moeney

[spare talon]

Then I can point to marty dr being higher with more damage, and you can still take enduring faith there too

[solar gorge]

nerfed into ground

[signal spoke]

top reddit posts btw

[spare talon]

Cuz of fotf crit

[frosty herald]

you can show them the code directly and they would still claim it changes spawns

[spare talon]

OK I have a quiz cuz I've been in a lecture this whole time bye

[plush estuary]

We want huge tits

[misty nova]

When the game is so good they discuss cosmetics

[violet hornet]

Where muh boob armor and pretty girls huh heavy redditor breathing

[plush estuary]

Cause lore accurate or something

[empty python]

martyr is great, but I'm not comfortable with not having lots of hp lol, tho I'm going to test it out eventually.

[misty nova]

Using phone during lecture

Smh cole

Smh

[heady rapids]

well we are prison inmates

[solar gorge]

it's not that scary with holy rev and allat

[misty nova]

Anyways gotta go

[heady rapids]

we look accordingly

[spare talon]

I hated marty before but now I really like it if that tells you some thing

[misty nova]

Lecture as well

[plush estuary]

I gtg

Lecture rn

[hollow vector]

If shroudfield has a million fans, then I am one of them.
If shroudfield has ten fans, then I am one of them.
If shroudfield has only one fan then that is me.
If shroudfield has no fans, then that means I am no longer on Atoma Prime.
If the unbelievers are against shroudfield, then I am against the unbelievers.

[sullen forge]

Literally told Ainz last night how misinformed people are actually going to riot over that because of supposed spawn changes

Lmao

[empty python]

Havoc is havoc lol

[signal spoke]

meanwhile the least pretty girl in 40k dork of tide

[empty python]

yeah I can tell, shit can be bussin, will give it a go eventually

[sullen forge]

Woke…

Game is woke…

[signal spoke]

but the boobs, the thick ass....

[frosty herald]

like why the fuck would they think that in the first place

[violet hornet]

Gotta eat corpse starch so we can have makeup

[signal spoke]

where are they fs

[frosty herald]

cutie patootie

[sullen forge]

Misinformed

[misty nova]

Flat is justice

[solar gorge]

i havzen't ran new marty th buld in high havoc yet but i'll get ot it

[misty nova]

🗣️

[copper hawk]

Looks up looks down

Looks at camera

Hello moderators.

[empty python]

im actually sad that the zealot new cosmetic said doesnt have ANY ass or chest for female 🙁

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/Yj2ERM0N_tY?si=0l2lGLTiV01AVNbG

[solar gorge]

respect fashark for making ppl who live in the shithole that is 40k look accordingly

[frosty herald]

its just fucking tranzit

[copper hawk]

My reject is gorgeous.. she's shrimply gorgeous..

Ignore the bite guard.. ur safe.. probably

[signal spoke]

"Zombies"

Thumbnail just shows a fuckign werewolf

[solar gorge]

hard to see behind the gimp cage

[misty nova]

My zealot is bald

[frosty herald]

suspiciously smooth felinid

[copper hawk]

I dont have a sh of my own reject

[misty nova]

[copper hawk]

But cole does

[misty nova]

With an eye patch

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[gleaming furnace]

bald or shaved ?

[misty nova]

Bald

[gleaming furnace]

[misty nova]

Shiny

[frosty herald]

so called free thinkers when they can choose white hair and a little beauty mark

[misty nova]

With a bad eye and an eye patch

[copper hawk]

I put scars on mine

[gleaming furnace]

i user to go eyepatch til the gimp mask came back

[misty nova]

The remaining eyes should be light colored
And there should be a scar running through it

To simulate they are blind in both eyes

[copper hawk]

Still want face paint

[placid dust]

what hammer and blesings did you use >?

[copper hawk]

And mascara/eyeliner

And the ability to paint nails

[gleaming furnace]

gta style stupid face tattoos

[copper hawk]

For my true zealot powerwolf larp

[empty python]

idk if it's my imagination, but does Thammer feel less THUMPY when hitting to you guys?

[warped trellis]

looks shit from the preview alone

[copper hawk]

Black mascara black nail polish black face paint

Red and black

[frosty herald]

btw

the ogryn set right now doesnt have a lion pauldron

its a boar

[empty python]

oh, melee enemies don't get suppressed right?

[solar gorge]

they do iirc

just not poxxers

and maybe ragers

[gleaming furnace]

they do not

[solar gorge]

are u sure

[frosty herald]

holy drip

[gleaming furnace]

yes

[ocean ocean]

For Chorus of Spritual Fortitude, Holy Cause or Ecclesiarch's Call for the upgrade?

[copper hawk]

My zeal btw

Leopard print..

[solar gorge]

i swear i saw bruiser cower for their lives after being near an explosion

and groaners do that to

too

tou

[empty python]

I tried in Psyka, only the shooter guys get suppressed when using the backstab suppressed thing

[solar gorge]

oh with that

idk

[spare talon]

Cara unyielding ht thrust

[copper hawk]

If only thrust was innately built into the thammer

[sullen forge]

What like how it is innately in Ogryn

[copper hawk]

No

Just thammer

[empty python]

i got a few light-bonk Thammer with brittle blessing instead lol, and it actually works nice

[copper hawk]

That'd be 2 strong

[plush estuary]

spending the extra point elsewhere would be more worthwhile. But if you had to choose, I'd take damage

[copper hawk]

Only ok if ogryn does it

[placid dust]

what secondary with this setup ?

[copper hawk]

Flamer

Or new bolter

If ur quirky and gay like cole

Couldnt be me..

Flips hair

[thorny stump]

Neither

[sullen forge]

Stares at the live audience

[empty python]

lowkey idk if Hubris is worth it

[copper hawk]

Bro

[spare talon]

New bolter with pinning and fire frenzy

[copper hawk]

That's my line bro.

[mighty root]

What are y’all’s thoughts on unrelenting fury?

[copper hawk]

Get ur own material bro.

Ouppy > shark

Soo..

[copper hawk]

Cool i guess

[empty python]

what's that one?

[copper hawk]

If u have a point to spare

[gleaming furnace]

still dumping collat or nah ?

[empty python]

oh that one

it's fine

[sullen forge]

Literally drown in water

[empty python]

decent, 20%- cd is good

[copper hawk]

Literally drown on land

[sullen forge]

Biggest L ever

[copper hawk]

Sooooo

[mighty root]

20% ability refund after a kill with fury

[empty python]

yeah it's pretty good

[copper hawk]

Imagine needing oxygen but asphyxiating on land

[spare talon]

I dump stability on this one cuz the stagger of the aoe is a big boon of the weapon

[copper hawk]

Holy fail bro

[mighty root]

Due to the nerf it’s nice

[spare talon]

I dont think its worth the point
With iod or pct uptime youre saving 3 seconds

[copper hawk]

These r surely Dark Tidings..

[misty nova]

Groaners do

Which means

The whole 21st horde

[spare talon]

It shoulda been a higher value and locked with redoubled zeal

[copper hawk]

3 seconds is YOUNG !

[mighty root]

Damm I figured

[empty python]

tbh, a lot of the times I get into some situations where I need like 2-3s left to do this very important thing...is insane

[copper hawk]

You dont understand it's 3 seconds

[mighty root]

I thought I’d be nice to cut elites down with fury

[copper hawk]

3 seconds is young !

[spare talon]

Same logic with cdr perks before
Are they worth what youre giving up

[copper hawk]

Yah

[empty python]

but you're fine without unrelenting faith ig

[spare talon]

In this case another talnet

[copper hawk]

Just dont get hit

Noob

Washed

Doused in tar and covered w featherz

[mighty root]

Guh

[copper hawk]

Just take it vro

It's just one talent point

Also

[misty nova]

Ok so
Groaners
Stalkers
Shooters
Gunners
Reapers

[copper hawk]

Kind bummed that golden tness node was i tegrated 2 chorus ,,

[misty nova]

They can be suppressed

[copper hawk]

Shouldve been an elective node ,,

Hate golden sludgeness ,,

[empty python]

kewl

[spare talon]

Then dont use book

[misty nova]

It's a really small list

[copper hawk]

BUT I WANNA

I TIRE OF CHARGE

AND THERE EXISTZ NO 3RD ULT

[young patio]

hi am zealot noob, does Bleed for the emperor reduce the damage at the wound mark during your life bar or only the damage that would put you down?

[spare talon]

Ok gold toughness lover.....

[copper hawk]

I TIIIIIRE COLE

Omg

Omgggg

Ur so dead

When i get my pawz on u ur so dead

[mighty root]

Ahhh you mad

[frosty herald]

just use shroudfield

[copper hawk]

Shroud ,, wut ?

There is no 3rd ult

[misty nova]

Damage that crosses a bar

[spare talon]

If the damage would cross a wound threshold, its reduced by 40%

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-sing-se-gif-20976912

There is no 3rd ult.

[glossy nimbus]

How does Zealot become invisible

[thorny stump]

What is the purpose of taking twbs and unfaltering? Don't they both keep you from getting interrupted while attacking or is it different?

[misty nova]

Holy prayer

[young patio]

Thanks! So matyrdom has good synergy because you have more wounds right?

[copper hawk]

Twbs also prevents you from being slowed

[misty nova]

Seems about right

[copper hawk]

And grants you a speed buff when hit

[misty nova]

Unless you sit at 1 would for 90% of the match

[mighty root]

This was a issue I ran into tbh with what I made I don’t really know where to put this last point

[copper hawk]

As well as workin w ranged weapons

[glossy nimbus]

More wounds to lose so you can do more damage and get more toughness damage reduction.

[misty nova]

Then bleed for Emps is pointless

[copper hawk]

Dont use marty

Use ij

Yes yes..

[spare talon]

You can try different things

[thorny stump]

The speed buff is only from health damage, correct?

[empty python]

you guys think Blinded By Blood is that worth it?

[copper hawk]

Erm

WRONG !

[misty nova]

It's team wide iirc

[mighty root]

Trying different things……..

[copper hawk]

U vill blazin piety stalvart . And u vill be heppy .

[spare talon]

As of a few patches ago, it works on toughness

[empty python]

I think it's pretty good, but i'm getting a bit tight on the build lol

[spare talon]

15% movement speed is also a LOT

[thorny stump]

Hmm ok

[spare talon]

A shooter nicks you and you start zoomin

[copper hawk]

Is the wound dmg reduction still worth it ,,

Ugh u adhd noobz

[misty nova]

Depends

[copper hawk]

Just dont sprint ,,

[spare talon]

I dont take it for martu

[copper hawk]

Dat shrimple..

U run around 2 much..

Like rabid chihuahua..

[misty nova]

I sit at 1 wound for 90% of the match

In this case

[copper hawk]

Be the stoic st Bernard..

[misty nova]

Bleed Emps is useless

[copper hawk]

I zeen how u play cole..

Put the taxe down..

[spare talon]

I havent used taxe since the update dropped actually

To busy thmaxxing

[copper hawk]

Yuck

Actually yuckerz

Flickz u away like a booger

[misty nova]

Write properly 😭

Am having hard time

[acoustic dune]

is the zealot rework here yet

[misty nova]

Me english good

[carmine falcon]

i see nothing wrong with this post

[empty python]

maybe I dont need Faithful Frenzy (+10% attk speed) with IJudgement keystone...but MAN lots of atk speed is fun 🙁

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-zealot-build @spare talon what would you trade for unrelenting fury?

[spare talon]

I do need to give new zealot with new evis ago
I wasnt really involved with evis

[misty nova]

"It's just 10%"

[misty nova]

Bloodthirsty Evis15 is a beast

[empty python]

10% is so huge ngl

[misty nova]

[mighty root]

Who the flip was involved with psyker

[misty nova]

Another 2k hours of Evis15 for me

Martyrdom is so fool proof as well

As a martyrdom main

This is a buff

[spare talon]

Like what would you take instead of it?

[empty python]

I tried Bloodthirsty be4 in H40, honestly I just dont get it lol

[misty nova]

A huuuuuge one

It's simple

Rev for everything

[stone fern]

SPEAKING OF MARTY MAINS

[misty nova]

Rev light for hordes

[stone fern]

is advanced still alive

i miss him

[misty nova]

Rev heavy for anything bigger

[copper hawk]

@spare talon

[warped trellis]

i know that image….

[copper hawk]

I have that as a sticker

[empty python]

yeah I assumed so but MAN it felt kinda clunky idk, but ig it might have also had sth to do with my weird ahhh double-clicky M5 button

[misty nova]

I'm straight up running Bloodthirsty Perfect Strike

[stone fern]

@clever swan hi are you alive?

[misty nova]

Hordes can't stop you

[mighty root]

Guh….. idk…. I thought punish impiety but I’m already getting my fury back extremely fast

[misty nova]

Any elite in the mix gets shredded

It just feeds itself

Blood for the emperor

[empty python]

you dont kill all the times with rev crit tho, then you just get stuck in horde lol

but yes

[misty nova]

SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

[spare talon]

Read what punish impiety does
Then think about how often you do its requirement with taxe

[carmine falcon]

https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1np4mk6/new_paul_radius_w_power_surge/

GIVE THIS

TO THAMMER

NOW

[young patio]

what the fuck

[mighty root]

I know dat, it’s literally up all the time

[spare talon]

Its a free extra 10% atk speed for taxe

[copper hawk]

Push attack spammers eating good this update

[copper hawk]

Once again epic cole corruption

[plush estuary]

killed boss with door

[copper hawk]

Bleedin thru

First w arbites

Now w the new rework..

[young patio]

paul better than thammer is honestly injustice

[copper hawk]

All the push attack and stamina talentz..

[mighty root]

But with unrelenting I’m getting to burst down elites quicker

[spare talon]

Fuck I cant keep track of all the player facing names

[mighty root]

There’s soooo many options

[spare talon]

Thats the other fotf node right

Yeah I've never ever ever felt the need to have that node on any build

[mighty root]

Guh

[spare talon]

Even on marty which has half the cdr rate

[copper hawk]

Ever ever being 2 dayz

[spare talon]

Marty cdr gives fotf back in 20 sec

And thats fast enough for me

[mighty root]

Is Marty the move……

Marty…

[copper hawk]

WRONG !

10 seconds

[mighty root]

I’ll use Marty……

[copper hawk]

I need 10 seconds back..

[stone fern]

fast enough?!?!?!?

FAST ENOUGH?!?!?!

[misty nova]

20

Yeah

[spare talon]

Do you need a splint with that crutch teehee

[misty nova]

We used to ball with 22!

[stone fern]

🚬 all the new marty players now

[misty nova]

20 is free

[copper hawk]

It's fun 2 charge

U say funny voiceline

[mighty root]

We really outing ourselves with this update

[copper hawk]

And go into combat

[spare talon]

Jokes aside zealot had way to much cdr

[copper hawk]

Like 509 fet

[violet hornet]

they all wanna be just like us smh

[stone fern]

i played marty when it was ASS

[copper hawk]

Or 5 feet

Dont tell me about monocharhe or ill crash out

Like dorncord

Frothz at mouth

[mighty root]

Clad….

[copper hawk]

U and dorn propaganda RUINED zealote..

[stone fern]

tbh played only marty because wound curios were easy to craft

[spare talon]

15-20s easily for every build option is already a lot but having 1/3rd of the cooldown time cuz you ran piety was stupid

[copper hawk]

Now i cant take 2 cdrz..

Grr growl..

[carmine falcon]

im glad fotf has its own cdr cause i think fotf is one of the abilties that are meant to be spammed

20 seconds too long!!!

need the speed buff

[violet hornet]

I legit only did it for smackin daemonhosts

we love the bonk

[copper hawk]

What if we reduced the benefits of charge

But reduced the time..

[violet hornet]

what if we reduced you

[mighty root]

It’s good as is

[copper hawk]

U cant u r too weak

[violet hornet]

🤏

[stone fern]

in the crafting dark days rating didnt matter for wounds so brunt would always have shit like 1 wound at 60 rating with T4 gunner

[carmine falcon]

GET OUT

[misty nova]

Remove the rending

[copper hawk]

I want 2 charge spam

Like vt2 zeal

[misty nova]

The shroud becomes meta

Because it has rending now

[copper hawk]

HOOOLY LUSTRATION

[spare talon]

Someone actually crashed out at me when I wasnt present about this
Then said everyone else sucks but them because they can run no cdr single charge immediately after insulting me constantly (when im not present) for removing double cdr

[misty nova]

[violet hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053102927327285270/1385060039982841856/grub_speak.gif

[copper hawk]

I BURN THE IMPURE

[stone fern]

burns himself

[mighty root]

Charge spam was really just to mulch elite hordes tbh

[copper hawk]

Yah i saw it

I have my eyez and noze in dorncord..

My informantz..

No 1 want ouppy in their grubcord..

Kickz rock..

[plush estuary]

why the fuck cant I run 3 cdr talents so I can spam book so I cant have 100% uptime on piss toughness. Why should I play the game I bought?

I should just win

[spare talon]

You left yourself lmfao

[copper hawk]

ZIGH

Every1 but that 1

I cant take that 1

[spare talon]

And declined when we asked if you wanted to rejoin

[copper hawk]

Too many undesirablez

[gleaming furnace]

lmao who even ran double cdr ? shit was so expensive

[copper hawk]

I know lmfao

[stone fern]

i just left because he muted me lmao

[plush estuary]

95% of book zealtos

[copper hawk]

When i was havin it read 2 me

[spare talon]

Havoc 40 meta experts

[copper hawk]

Like the crashout

[spare talon]

Real experts

Trust

[copper hawk]

I didnt know double cdr was a thing

[gleaming furnace]

[carmine falcon]

guys i cant play vet anymore cause shout has an actual cooldown

please help

[gleaming furnace]

thats even more expensive

[real sonnet]

I used to run it cuz book ya

[spare talon]

Its why pct needed to not be a flat value

[copper hawk]

YAHZ well u nevar talked in that 1

[plush estuary]

see

[copper hawk]

ZO

[carmine falcon]

what do u mean im supposed to position well and not just factank everything and let shout protecc me.....

[copper hawk]

Spitz at u

[spare talon]

Book cdr was so fucked with that one

[copper hawk]

Pct ??

Erm

[real sonnet]

Now I just use the weakspot one cuz it's goated

[copper hawk]

English plz

[stone fern]

ok heres what you do ||play powersword_______ _ _ _ _ __ __ _ _ _||

[copper hawk]

I dont speak enrd

Nerd

[frosty herald]

also called dorn a neonazi (if were talking about the same person)

[copper hawk]

Called dorn uh

A lot of things

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleeping-gif-12172689655244550594

[copper hawk]

Psychotic unemployed outburst

[hazy kite]

rogal dorn is a tank!!!

[gleaming furnace]

yea but its a catch 22. cant hit stuff when book is up cant spam book whilst hitting stuff

[spare talon]

Backstab cdr

[violet hornet]

just because both are bald like egg doesn't mean they're exactly the same lol

[copper hawk]

Oh

Pious

[frosty herald]

no

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-cat-stare-rigby-tongue-gif-12118654088387148905

[copper hawk]

I knew dat.

[copper hawk]

U nevar talked there

NEVAR

It was alwayz the undesirablez ,,

[frosty herald]

because he was under the impression that dorn specifically gutted double CDR to fuck him over

[copper hawk]

Cuz dorn is 100% a playtester right

The guy who crashed out was like

Straight up possessed by the spirit of Tanner

It was insane to read

[spare talon]

Oh so are you implying im not your enemy and you dont hate me
Freudian slip

[copper hawk]

Ive felt this evil before..

That presence.

Could it be..

[median steeple]

hi that's me

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940733995333869688/1406687148643713085/dog.gif

[copper hawk]

Erm

[hollow vector]

is mk 3 still the best knife for stealth?

[copper hawk]

Lookz up

Lookz down

[frosty herald]

yah

[copper hawk]

Lookz left lookz right

Shut the fuck up BAKA

[frosty herald]

but use thammer for stealth instead

trust me

[frosty herald]

ok there asuka

[violet hornet]

thammer is best knife

[carmine falcon]

i require a link to his messages

[copper hawk]

Actually just fucking rips your head off like a breadstick

[frosty herald]

what if i unhinged my jaw and bite into your skull like a crocodile

[copper hawk]

Id deflect

W my

[carmine falcon]

we getting freaky in here

[copper hawk]

Crimson powar.

[hollow vector]

i love thammer as much as the next guy, but sneaky stabby is a certified atoma classic, can't give up on my bbygurl like that 😔

[acoustic dune]

wtf is this

i pay 6 dilla a month

to play dlc?

[frosty herald]

they increased the infamous collection price by 45 euros because of this btw

[acoustic dune]

fucking why

[violet hornet]

pay six dilla to not play their shitty new pd3

[copper hawk]

@frosty herald https://youtu.be/zg1osIEMDmY&t=24

[hollow vector]

thinking of mk 3 knife, zarona revolver, and fire nades maybe?

[acoustic dune]

wait what

[carmine falcon]

mk6 knife with marty is pure comedy

[frosty herald]

the discount for the infamous collection went from 52% to 33%

[long oasis]

crocodiles cant unhinge their jaws, they are dumb and stupid

[hollow vector]

knives are fun with revolver, but some crowd control is nice (and i hate the flamethrower and throwing knife combo tbh)

[long oasis]

fact checked once again

[acoustic dune]

wtf

[carmine falcon]

the crowd control is knife turning into a machine gun on marty

[gleaming furnace]

wtf is a 37% discount

[acoustic dune]

WWTF

[gleaming furnace]

cursed number