zealot-class

[misty nova]

One shot atoma prime itself

[frosty herald]

Thammer shroud>dueling sword shroud

[long oasis]

chaxe shroud?

[long oasis]

cant you get out 1 rev and a hit if you activate it as you swing

[heady rapids]

anyone tried out the ds buffs

shits insane

[ivory marlin]

Chat

[placid fiber]

Okay, but, can you 1 shot a plague ogryn without temporary buffs with the thammer now?

[ivory marlin]

Mort is a loner stan

[heady rapids]

whos stan

[ivory marlin]

No like he liked loner

[placid fiber]

Uh...

[ivory marlin]

I love that guy

Stan is so cool

[long oasis]

@hushed knoll identity theft in progress

[placid fiber]

Quick, Stan, show us some of your... uh... food stuff

[ivory marlin]

Only stan could say smth like that

Truly an english teacher of all time

[frosty herald]

Mort really liked loner?

[placid fiber]

Unironically he's STILL probably raising the gpa...

[ivory marlin]

I guess

[frosty herald]

Stan is blissfully ignorant

[placid fiber]

Lucky

I'm only ignorant

[ivory marlin]

He called me the f slur

[placid fiber]

Food?

[ivory marlin]

No the gay one

[ripe quest]

Yeah. With the patch Martyrdom is safer now, you can do 2 wound 1 toughness and get full stacks (though 3 wound gives you 28% health with max stacks which is a nice number for UD/HR). Means more toughness, Zealot is at 125 base.

Let's assume max stacks and said 125 toughness, 10% toughness gen gives you 12.5 toughness normally. TDR sets you to 200 effective toughness, 20 effective toughness gained on proc. Toughness Replenishment sets you to 25 effective toughness gained. It works out like a new multiplicative increase to effective toughness gains.

[frosty herald]

||loner left just like his girlfriend||

[median steeple]

@sullen forge mobil for the saber right?

[frosty herald]

Yeah

[ivory marlin]

Yeah

[sullen forge]

Yeah Mobility for Falchion

[frosty herald]

POWER SABER

[sullen forge]

Cranial + Wrath seems to be the play so far

[sullen forge]

mainly cause it stacks with Precision Strikes as a talent, Blah blah

click head to instantly kill chaffe basically

[midnight ermine]

Is there anything not gay in darktide?

[misty nova]

I refuse to believe

[frosty herald]

One thing i noticed is that the saber moveset is just bundled together

[dull iris]

does Relic Blade still want to go Blazing Piety?

[misty nova]

That's wrath propaganda

I refuse to believe wrath propaganda

[frosty herald]

The saber l3 is just the push attack from powersword

[long oasis]

yea

[heady rapids]

70 atk speed with martyrdom

consider

[long oasis]

me

[misty nova]

It's Cranial Leakage or nothing

[dull iris]

i refuse to use martyrdom unfortunately

[midnight ermine]

❌

[ivory marlin]

Idk but mort calling me it added 1 more screenshot to my list of straight white men who have called me it

[median steeple]

what fuck ass perks are you running on this thing

[misty nova]

Go IJ

[heady rapids]

its a lot safer now

[median steeple]

flak/elites? or something evil

[misty nova]

It's 20 % instead of 15 now

[haughty vigil]

[placid fiber]

Plasma gunners here to eat your cheerios:

[misty nova]

RB?

[frosty herald]

Def flak to reach breakpoints

[coral smelt]

does the new annoint in blood effect burn dmg?

[brazen wedge]

I sure picked a day to start playing zealot. Everything I've read up on has changed!

[misty nova]

Flak Elites

[median steeple]

the saber

[wet rain]

real

[dull iris]

yeah IJ seems better

[misty nova]

Oh falchion

[median steeple]

I have like 2 RBs I know how to build it

[elfin steppe]

Why shouldn't I just use blood redemption instead of this one

[median steeple]

but idk abou this creature weapon

[haughty vigil]

do not read, smash yourself into the enemy

[midnight ermine]

I feel like grievous and good balance aren't all that good

[median steeple]

honestly might buildl it like an RB

[frosty herald]

This is a global toughness generation increase i believe

[midnight ermine]

You could use both

[misty nova]

Yeah idk Falchion

[dull iris]

i wish martyrdom builds just set your max health/wounds at 50% or so from the start

[glossy nimbus]

Slop obtained

[midnight ermine]

Can you buy me some of that slop too? I only want a weapon skin or something

[haughty vigil]

stagger increase helps with elites and this build uses a one handed chainsword

[elfin steppe]

nah I'm saving my point for damage nodes. I can only take one

[coral smelt]

does the new annoint in blood effect burn dmg?

[haughty vigil]

but it is for sure a for fun build

[ivory marlin]

So sorry for you gain

[haughty vigil]

this used to be my movespeed maxxing build but uh

[sullen forge]

Just have it in the background

[misty nova]

Always did

[sullen forge]

I simply dont care to watch

[haughty vigil]

there's no more movespeed

[glossy nimbus]

Watch a twitch stream

[misty nova]

Because

It's close damage

[placid fiber]

The rando on their way to med stim you:

[glossy nimbus]

yeah I did

[sullen forge]

im just gonna play and have it in the background muted

LMAO

[elfin steppe]

This thing is so broken btw

[dull iris]

or the rando spamming the heal ping

[midnight ermine]

I want it but i can't spare the points

[placid fiber]

or them dropping a medcrate on you in the elevator

[dull iris]

or you accidentally walking over a medkit

[haughty vigil]

imagine taking damage twice in 4 seconds

[dull iris]

i hate it

like

[misty nova]

I love treating the medpack as the plague

[median steeple]

@sullen forge ready

[frosty herald]

Also saying your just gonna have the stream in a tab muted in the chat

[placid fiber]

I may get annoyed, but, I can't really get mad... it's a rando... I literally know to expect nothing from randos >.>

[elfin steppe]

you never know

[frosty herald]

Guaranteed to ragebait people

[dull iris]

no i know, they are not wrong

but that's why i won't use martyrdom

[ripe quest]

This is a multiplier for all toughness gained.

[dull iris]

it doesn't work in the context of random online gaming

[misty nova]

Once got stimmed by a random and the game crashed

[midnight ermine]

Enemies within, enemies without. Is it now a good replacement for second wind?

[median steeple]

@sullen forge nothing has changed LMFAO

[elfin steppe]

ok, I'm still only going to take one out of these three

[ripe quest]

It's good non-lethal toughness gen now, Second Wind is still strong but you got some options now.

[placid fiber]

Does this multiplier stack additively or multiplicatively with the -75% debuff from plasma gunners?

[dull iris]

the duelling sword just got a bit fatter

[mighty root]

HOLY SHIT ZEALOT IS AMAZING

[pale spindle]

Is this health damage or toughness damage?

[elfin steppe]

all damage

[frosty herald]

Bros wearing full camo like the heretics arent gonna see him

[ripe quest]

Not sure, should be multiplicative if the debuff is set right.

[placid fiber]

It's either 1 x 1.25 x 0.25 or 1 x (1.25 - 0.75)

[midnight ermine]

Does restorative verses buff its regen?

[mighty root]

Question for bp does infectious zeal count for me too?

[elfin steppe]

My argument is that if you have five enemies within your reach, you won't need to worry about toughness regen. I still prefer the second wind.

[heady rapids]

ewew is insanely good

[ivory marlin]

Oh how are the plasma troops

[heady rapids]

scary

[ivory marlin]

Annoying?

[heady rapids]

you need to rush them down asap

[elfin steppe]

It hit like a truck

[frosty herald]

King von reincarnated

[elfin steppe]

bascially the sniper

[ivory marlin]

Wow

Scary

[placid fiber]

old darktide fire, but, in gun form that also reduces toughness generation >.>

[pale spindle]

Wait Zealot literally can't die this has to be unintentional

[ripe quest]

ye

[dull iris]

without the telling tho

it's pretty hard to see if a plasma dude is targetting you

[heady rapids]

yeah

[dull iris]

and they aim for very little time

[heady rapids]

its hard to notice them

and they start barraging you hard

[dull iris]

it has the firerate of a normal rifle dude tbh

a bit slower

[fresh nacelle]

what kind of moron wants to try the only new weapon in a patch hey guys am i rite

[placid fiber]

Meow, your copium paid off

[hard nexus]

loadout config crashesur game

sad

[pale spindle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d287b2d-6597-4b23-b84f-00877dd4d54f/ohohoho-wee-wee-capitan?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[placid fiber]

it paid off hard

[hard nexus]

which copium

ive coped a lot

[brazen wedge]

Is there a guide anywhere for weapon combos or is zealot just swing wildly until it's dead?

[frosty herald]

Haii cyn

[placid fiber]

Your copium about this update not being just a mortris trial update from a week ago or w/e

[hard nexus]

the only one that has a guide is crusher and evis

[exotic plaza]

what weapon are you using

[hard nexus]

no i was hoping itd be a new map with a psyker enemy

the reworks r nice

[placid fiber]

close enough

[frosty herald]

Willow ignored me :(

[pale spindle]

But this is crazy how can we get just 60% tdr for free

[heady rapids]

whats with the 60 tdr

[hard nexus]

oh thank god

[hard nexus]

hiii

[pale spindle]

#zealot-class message

[heady rapids]

surely

[hard nexus]

nvm

[exotic plaza]

RAH

[heady rapids]

that existed before

[placid fiber]

Yeah, she was too distracted by my insults to notice you. My bad

[frosty herald]

🥲

[pale spindle]

It's now for all damage not just health

[hard nexus]

@sullen forge how are the VAGs doing

[placid fiber]

wait it works from toughness damage now?

[heady rapids]

if it still has the shared activation on your team then its still a big eeh

[pale spindle]

Apparently so

[pale spindle]

I need to test it myself but I'm stuck at work

[pale spindle]

If anyone on your team takes any toughness damage everyone gets it

[placid fiber]

I think I can test it, cause the fire damage from dreg gunners still hurts toughness

[pale spindle]

That's like 95% uptime

If that's the case, this is literally broken

[heady rapids]

wait wtf

[ripe quest]

Seems like normal, team-wide cooldown and it only procs on health damage taken. Only change should've been the cooldown from 10s to 8s.

[pale spindle]

You sure?

[placid fiber]

Doesn't it still have a 8s cd?

[ripe quest]

Unless I'm missing something

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis misses new crusher one shot by 243 damage

on h1

[dull iris]

desperation does nothing at full stamina right?

[pale spindle]

50% then

[placid fiber]

I'm gonna test it rq

[heady rapids]

Reduces both toughness and health damage taken by 60% for 4s. Procs only on taking health damage (also while in downed state); always procs for Zealot if conditions are met; has no range limit when procced by allies or bots (coherency is not required). The talent can apply its damage reduction buff only once per proc. It has one global cooldown that is shared between all players (and bots). So if the talent has been procced either by Zealot or by an ally, it grants its damage reduction buff only to the player who triggered it before it goes on cooldown for 10s. The cooldown starts immediately during the buff's 4s duration. Stacks multiplicatively with other damage reduction buffs; does not have a HUD icon but plays a screen effect during its active duration.

If there are multiple Zealots who all run Shield of Contempt, the talent works as follows: The first Zealot to take health damage 'claims' the damage reduction buff. It lasts for 4s, during which it stacks multiplicatively with other Zealots' Shield of Contempt buffs, up to 97.44% damage reduction with four Zealots (1-0.4⁴=0.9744), only if the other Zealots also proc their talents while the duration of the buff that was 'claimed' by the first Zealot is still active. Since the damage reduction buff can only be applied once per proc, it does not benefit those Zealots who proc their talents while the first Zealot still has the damage reduction buff.

[placid fiber]

don't need mods to take toughness damage

[heady rapids]

ok its alright

[pale spindle]

Someone said all damage procs it now, but I can't fucking test it because I'm trapped at work

Get me OUT

[misty nova]

Another 15 W

[ripe quest]

haha gotta push -> h2 now

[pale spindle]

Is this the old description?

[heady rapids]

no

[hard nexus]

h2 cant reach it without some other buff

makes it overall less consistent

frown,,,

also some mod i have is causing this

in the psykanium

its constantly refilling my ammo

its funny,,,

[pale spindle]

Didn't DS get nerfed? 😞

Are we back on knife duty? 😞

[tawdry hinge]

oh my god this tree finally has hecking choice

[wet rain]

how good is blood redemption, would you say?

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1420059013923733524/oXAjwHB.mp4?ex=68d40484&is=68d2b304&hm=da765d2e4659e3d2f2f41e464e1144b599800b964e0eaf7af1b31e8788b1963e&

[wet rain]

haha yeah I get that, numeric UI

[heady rapids]

(its even stronger on psyker also)

[hard nexus]

im messing with it in the psykanium rn

new parry is nice but i wish it was a stab rather than slash

[long oasis]

block efficiency on curios?

Or is this without it

[heady rapids]

no

[long oasis]

damn

[pale spindle]

Looks the same to me

[heady rapids]

i dont run any block related talents

[heady rapids]

i parried and beheaded the mauler

[long oasis]

doesnt zealot get one thats like 50% block efficiency or something

[ripe quest]

Always did but now there's no voice in your ear saying crits are the only build

[pale spindle]

Yeah but what about using it normally with headshots

[heady rapids]

yeah theres some veryyyy good ones now

[misty nova]

DS is also good at blocking

[heady rapids]

still good

[hard nexus]

nobody was ever saying that

[heady rapids]

but now you can 1 tap ragers and shit

[tawdry hinge]

i played marty before now i shall play marty 🙏

[heady rapids]

with a press of a button

you lost the stagger button tho

[long oasis]

devils claw is somehow less relevant than ever

[heady rapids]

i never used that tbh i still have my special on v

lmao

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[placid fiber]

Doesn't proc from toughnes damage

[hard nexus]

despair,,

[heady rapids]

GOOD

they finally gave up on it

[long oasis]

make it anti carapace

[heady rapids]

and nerfed/buffed ds alongside to compensate

[long oasis]

dont catachans use it to kill tyranids and daemons all the time

[carmine falcon]

im reading the tree
zealot literally cant die if u have 2 braincells now

[heady rapids]

yeah it has like

[hard nexus]

actually with riposte stacked mk3 h1 should reach crusher one shot

[carmine falcon]

all the tdr coupled with mandatory until death

we are so back

[heady rapids]

+50% tyranid damage

hidden stat

[hard nexus]

but im not sure yet how consistent riposte will be on zealot

[long oasis]

genestealer

[placid fiber]

Still, shield of contempt proccing from anyone's health damage makes it have a decent uptime cause of randos

[misty nova]

Those are catachans

[heady rapids]

only works on that guy

from the snow map

swagger

[misty nova]

Our characters aren't catachans

Therefore

Dclaws is bad on us

But if we were catachans

[heady rapids]

lore accurate

[long oasis]

were not space marines and the power swords work fine

[misty nova]

Dclaw would 1 shot havoc 40 plague ogryn

[long oasis]

fact checked once again

[ripe quest]

In PT it was up constantly for me once combat started, 8s is a bit too long imo.

[heady rapids]

but yeah idk fatshark never knew what the fuck they were doing with dclaw

might as well trash it and give an actual weapon its gimmick

[frosty herald]

Fatshark addz power rake

[heady rapids]

i see no problem there

[placid fiber]

And the beast of nurgle near it

[dull iris]

what is the best relic blade mark and its combo for single/crowd

[hard nexus]

i think they were taking the crit chance on dodge that vet has as inspiration

[misty nova]

There's no such thing as best mark (it's mk10)

[heady rapids]

i run x and spam m1

very fun

[misty nova]

And mk10 combo is

[dull iris]

yeah it looks very easy for that

[placid fiber]

whichever you prefer(I like the mk10)

[frosty herald]

Mk2

[hard nexus]

it could be brought down to like 4 or 6 and still be decent, though itd fall off in boss fights

[misty nova]

Push into heavy loop for crowds

[carmine falcon]

power rake as a special relic blade attack.....

[dull iris]

l1 l2 block cancel and repeat

[long oasis]

it would be fun if marks had a high degree of specialization

[frosty herald]

Has an overhead loopand uppercut loop

[carmine falcon]

AWOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAA

[heady rapids]

it might have an actual horde clear combo

but i spam l1

[dull iris]

yeah that's fine too

[long oasis]

like one would be good at killing elites and another would be good at hording but not both

[violet hornet]

Here's what I have down for mk10
#zealot-class message

[dull iris]

the stab isn't a huge loss for crowd

[hard nexus]

oh so every scab enemy has had their health increased

n eat

[misty nova]

Push Attack Heavy Light heavy heavy light combo for single target

[placid fiber]

it also lets you snipe elites in the crowd

[misty nova]

Yeah

[dull iris]

oh you can combo into the crowd heavies after the two lights

[misty nova]

They are elite troops

[frosty herald]

Theyre chunky now

[heady rapids]

mk2 players when they get their hands on mk10:

[misty nova]

They should be tougher

[ashen quartz]

how's the heavy sword feeling this patch? been off dt for a hot minute

[royal vortex]

scoobs

[dull iris]

ok i see, thanks

[frosty herald]

Scab enemies ate a senzu bean

[scenic drift]

hmm

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/poo-hi-awkward-junk-hello-gif-13197343

[long oasis]

pretty sure the weapon itself is untouched

[dull iris]

also am i wrong or the relic blade is also pretty decent while unpowered

[long oasis]

ye

[tribal fulcrum]

blood redemption seems insane

[misty nova]

Yeah decent unpowered

Unlike Psword

But then Psword is Psword

We don't have to talk about it

[dull iris]

coming from power sword that's really something

[tribal fulcrum]

no wait, is tough replenishment the shit stat

[dull iris]

and falchion tbh

[hard nexus]

time 4 auric

[heady rapids]

they renamed them a while ago

[royal vortex]

go talentless

[heady rapids]

I think replenishment is all toughness gen

[royal vortex]

make them suffer with your very presence

[carmine falcon]

the real answer between which relic blade mark u use IS BOTH

its literally that simple

variety is the spice of life

• Big E

[hard nexus]

ive done this twice before on accident

oo gloriana

[ripe quest]

I don't think it was that deep w/ Riposte ironically, its proc condition is on the simple list and damage was intended to be bumped on Zealot. Creativity is dead...

[glossy nimbus]

chain sword is good now yeah?

[long oasis]

its always been good but previously the pathing made it unfavorable to take

[heady rapids]

@carmine falcon are there any guides for combat knife

[royal vortex]

the last 4 times i played darktide were like weeks apart and i was on a streak of forgetting curios for marty, swapping a build, then forgetting i had just put on marty curios

[tribal fulcrum]

is zealot the tree that got most improved? now we can take blades and auras freely....

[heady rapids]

running it on tac to level

[royal vortex]

it was really something

[placid fiber]

I'm way too paranoid not to double, triple, and quadruple check my talent tree before a mission >.>'

[ripe quest]

They bumped single target quite a lot, it still has top tier crowd performance.

[midnight ermine]

Did focus target get nerfed

[hard nexus]

awesome

[carmine falcon]

sturm has the best guides for everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBqnBQB5NU

knife is just

skullcrusher spam

[heady rapids]

thanks

I hope that has builds

[carmine falcon]

and the charge nuked

the lights suck

[ripe quest]

No. It's a multiplier for all toughness gains.

[north sedge]

i had a good time

[carmine falcon]

i can send u mine

[hard nexus]

lmfao

i guess its

not auric time for me

crashed in the dropship

[heady rapids]

mf playing with mods

[royal vortex]

"how can someone so smart exist within someone so stupid?" - Mankar, 2024

[carmine falcon]

seems like we might have to do a clean reinstall with all these crashes

[heady rapids]

point and laugh

[hard nexus]

yea

[heady rapids]

no need

[placid fiber]

crushers now have 6500 hp on damnation <.<

[heady rapids]

the patch just broke a lot of mods

[tribal fulcrum]

don't you need vicious offering to make good use of it?

[carmine falcon]

guess ill play no mods until stuff is fixed

[ripe quest]

When I started getting into DT again the number of times I ran fucked up curios with Arco was embarrassing

[carmine falcon]

modders were pretty fast to fix stuff when arbites came out

[royal vortex]

why are you getting embarrassed. you gotta sandbag him

[north sedge]

and in havoc with the rest of us

[ripe quest]

Can do any toughness gen with it. EWEW in particular is good with it, SW and VO are always quite strong.

[ripe quest]

shush, I am swag and based and cool

[royal vortex]

i sent him a picture showing how much more hair i had than him and he was shocked. you gotta keep finding new avenues of psychically harming him

[sullen forge]

@median steeple Agri IX feels better but admittedly when its the classic meta vet weapons its up against? still feels bad

I might try the C3 Vigil

[median steeple]

@sullen forge I need to fix my mods I cant without guarrentee swap give me a sec

[sullen forge]

3-R burst

[ivory marlin]

Did arco die? Havent seen him in a while

[misty nova]

Hahahahah hahahahah hahahha

[placid fiber]

Stan? Doesn't stan do that to himself anyway? >.>

[misty nova]

Voice of Terra still dogshit

Hahhahahah

[ripe quest]

He got turned into goop.

[ivory marlin]

Rip

[hard nexus]

wait blood redemption affects all toughness now

lmfao

[drowsy steppe]

he was one of the good ones 😔

[heady rapids]

what's voice of terra

[ripe quest]

I tried

[ivory marlin]

Rare for zealot regs

[gusty glen]

what's a cool epic crit martyrdom build now?

[ripe quest]

No it's just worded poorly. That still should only affect the on-melee-kill toughness gen, so 5 -> 10%.

[hard nexus]

ohg

[misty nova]

A+ for the effort

[tribal fulcrum]

I declare that it is now mandatory for all zealots to equip beacon of purity.

[dull iris]

matched with 3 execution stance vets

[heady rapids]

no

[royal vortex]

u either die a good one (pretend i could remember someone's name who fits in this category) or live long enough enough to become one of the bad ones (got told to stop calling beb beb names)

[median steeple]

not with the zealouse aura

that is peak

[hard nexus]

cleared a couple mods

lets see if i crash now

[tribal fulcrum]

it is declared, no takie backsies

[hard nexus]

im a good one

[frosty herald]

Your evil

[ripe quest]

uhhhhh darcy for the first one and josho for the second one

[frosty herald]

Pure evil

[carmine falcon]

@heady rapids best knife build imo
its a heavy attack weapon so bottom row is just more raw dps, i also take block to nuke things

[royal vortex]

fuck darcy does fit huh

[ivory marlin]

This is so deep, mods plz pin this

[heady rapids]

I'll be running heroic probably

but idk

[wheat locust]

Hello folks. Quick question, I won't get to play before another couple of hours, what are the first impressions on the revamped tree?

[ivory marlin]

Good

[frosty herald]

Just use gladius

[carmine falcon]

should work for everything
i just dislike fencing knife cause its a parry stick

[heady rapids]

actual choice now

[carmine falcon]

balance and galdius are solid

[misty nova]

Oh they got maidens attack speed after push here

[ripe quest]

contrazoid & crab

[wheat locust]

Say no more.

[heady rapids]

the tree is not a line anymore

[royal vortex]

u don't wanna be. trust me

[median steeple]

oh yeah numericUI is fucked I forgot

[ivory marlin]

Wasnt there that one ant guy

[solid yew]

guys, is taxe the supreme choice yet?

[heady rapids]

shroudfield and marty got insane buffa

[royal vortex]

the zoid did not possess a shred of goodness

[ivory marlin]

During the ogryn race wars or whatever

[royal vortex]

sorry hold on

there we go

[tribal fulcrum]

did martyrdom as a build get buffed? idk what % it was per wound before.

[misty ravine]

Taxe will never be the supreme choice due to aesthetics alone

[heady rapids]

wtf is ogryn race wars

[misty nova]

Not really

But like

[ripe quest]

TEETH and banditell

[solid yew]

fite me m8

[misty nova]

It's the same value

But not same same

[tribal fulcrum]

faith's fortitude is a huge enabler of martyr though

[ivory marlin]

It was a time during og dt chat

[royal vortex]

both of them persisted too long

[ivory marlin]

Oh I remember teeth

[heady rapids]

I vividly remember teeth

[misty ravine]

Yes, because you could effectively only have 6 stacks before. IIRC damage reduction fell by ~2%, the rest stayed the same or went up a couple %, and marty seems to actually have effective CDR now

[heady rapids]

does anyone have screenshots of him

[ripe quest]

It's roughly the same for the damage/tdr/attack speed. It now also has corruption resistance and a multiplier for toughness gen, and you only need 2 wound curios for max buffs. There are also more raw damage increases in the tree & way more survivability options.

[ivory marlin]

Damn

[frosty herald]

Cast down for your gif crimes

[royal vortex]

the zoid gave me budding serial killer vibes after he tagged me in a response to a conversation we had a week prior and was like "I'm still mad you thought I couldn't read a scoreboard properly". put that man in a straitjacket

[placid fiber]

1.5%(39% at 6.5% with 6 stacks)

[misty nova]

Aaw

[heady rapids]

the bigj incident

[misty nova]

Riposte is on the other side

Goddamnit

[ripe quest]

dawn priest and coolcab

[north sedge]

overkill is wasted dps

[ivory marlin]

Dawn is alive in anna’s server

[royal vortex]

cab counts

[north sedge]

cab did just kinda flip out there

at the end

[royal vortex]

and then exploded

[tribal fulcrum]

''damage that would take you to the next wound'' effectively means ''damage that would also kill you'', if you're at the last wound, right?

[rough edge]

LONER IS DEAD

YESS FINALLY!

[royal vortex]

into the mist

[rough edge]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387766557576269915/1416600102713426020/IMG_2287.gif

[drowsy steppe]

yanna was a good one

[ripe quest]

mal and mittens

[drowsy steppe]

we both still DM each other xd

[ivory marlin]

Mal is right here

[royal vortex]

Neither of those people are gone

[placid fiber]

This still looks better to me than loner, granted that's a pretty low bar

[tribal fulcrum]

styamina aura is a cool replacement

[jagged crag]

I'm at work so...
Is zealot actually buffed now, or just has to noodle around more for a build?

[ivory marlin]

Ok but am i crazy or was there a guy named fireant or smth like that

[misty nova]

Both

[ripe quest]

I still hear their voice to this day

[solar gorge]

pathing is good

[royal vortex]

mittins has been relegated to a very snarky devil on my shoulder

[solar gorge]

don't diss it

[ivory marlin]

Rip mal

[north sedge]

fireant was the playtester that darcy tried to witch hunt

[median steeple]

I AM SISYPHUS

FUCKKK

[misty nova]

Oh pathing is good

[mighty root]

How are we loving the rework?

[misty nova]

But if you go piety

[placid fiber]

kerfus?

[heady rapids]

hes a playtester in ogryn chat

[tribal fulcrum]

what was even the wound build previously? you got to 7 wounds and got the 6 stacks right? was it possible to get to 8 wounds?

[misty nova]

You have to cross to get Riposte

[ripe quest]

Hate it, DMing John Fatshark to delete Zealot.

[misty nova]

Only on malice and below

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339337727541772289/1405142093722030192/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.gif

[placid fiber]

I just realized something...

[mighty root]

NOOOOOOO

[ivory marlin]

Oh

[misty nova]

Heresy+ max wounds was 7

[placid fiber]

@stone fern CLAD, THEY FUCKING NERFED THE IRONHELM!!!

[misty nova]

And you can't get 7 stacks of martyrdom

[placid fiber]

[misty nova]

Because you can't go below 7 wounds on heresy+

[ripe quest]

fireant and hank are the ogryn playtesters people know of

[sullen forge]

@median steeple Columnus III might be my go too Vigil now

[misty nova]

[long oasis]

in sedition diff it was 9 wounds

I think

[sullen forge]

its offering the more aggressive playstyle I like without being dogshit cause of its buffs

[misty nova]

Yes but it's also sedition

Every dies there

[tribal fulcrum]

bleed for the emp, how does this work when on the last wound? perpetually 40% dmg reduc?

[long oasis]

style on the noobs

[placid fiber]

wrong reply

[misty nova]

No need for martyrdom

[solid yew]

shit, can't use brain to figure out a nice build

[placid fiber]

sigh

[placid fiber]

the person at 0hp:

there, I got it right lol

[carmine falcon]

its....the............build

[slate notch]

Yeah, I?m not enjoying the CDR nerf, at all

[long oasis]

if you cant use brain can I eat it then if youre not using it

[slate notch]

Not at all, nope

[exotic plaza]

anyway what about the cleave stat breakpoint on mk3 evis

[frosty herald]

shroudfield didnt get any downtime with cdr lmfao

[carmine falcon]

there's literally built in cdr for each ult now

its better for the game

[solid yew]

ye sure

[carmine falcon]

endgame being ult spam is boring

[misty nova]

Oh

I thought you'd be locked out

[median steeple]

no way mini shop rework

https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-david-tennant-matt-smith-john-hurt-day-of-the-doctor-gif-7220033

[misty nova]

2 Fotf with refunding cdr

[placid fiber]

uh... even chorus?

[misty nova]

This shit is nuts

[exotic plaza]

what perk for heavy evis

[long oasis]

master crafted shroudfield also doesnt increase the cd anymore

[frosty herald]

the pages are so big now

[slate notch]

the nerf isn't fun either

[carmine falcon]

didnt check for chorus actually but this shit should have no cdr unironically

[misty nova]

Chorus went from 60 secs to 45

[exotic plaza]

running flak + cara

[misty nova]

It's aight

[placid fiber]

True

[sullen forge]

@median steeple Chord is kinda silly now, path posted this

[misty nova]

Oh no

60 seconds still

[long oasis]

its right next to martyrs purpose still

[frosty herald]

if you take chorus all CDR should be locked

[misty nova]

Chorus dead

[median steeple]

huh ok

[carmine falcon]

it is cause now u dont have a get out of jail card every 5 seconds

[misty nova]

Actually chorus can't die

Because it has resist_death

[median steeple]

hopefully it stays this way going forward but I still want the VT2 shop

[placid fiber]

giving every build with a non-base aura cheat death is hilarious to me

[frosty herald]

goddamn thats clean

imagine arbites with cdr seconds

[slate notch]

Nah, it's because it's not a middle ground. The went from ult spam to: "Enjoy your ult each sunday"

[carmine falcon]

i dont get the issue with cdr not being bonkers
do u really think the gamepaly loop of a vet shouting when there's nothing on screen cause he's gonna get it back 5 seconds later anyway to be fun?

[heady rapids]

@sullen forge your micro pfp reminds me of pawsy ...........

[carmine falcon]

fotf has 20% refund on killing something within 5 seconds

same with shroudfield

[sullen forge]

who the fuck is pawsy

[mighty root]

@hard nexus What do you think about the against the odd talent?

[carmine falcon]

an d inovc is still good

[exotic plaza]

good

[slate notch]

Didn't try them yet. Talking about the freaking book

[exotic plaza]

im not him but it basically alway max stack

[heady rapids]

pawsy is a bot from lethal company modding server

[exotic plaza]

especially good on thammer

[carmine falcon]

book spam should have never been a thing
golden toughness trivilizes so many things

[tribal fulcrum]

should i try build for crits in my martyr build?

[carmine falcon]

this is for the better

[mighty root]

You can

[long oasis]

its barely a nerf anyway, if you have iod on chastise + the new cd on kill node you get it back in 12.5 seconds instead of 10 seconds

[placid fiber]

I agree with this

[mighty root]

Depends on weapon

[long oasis]

not counting any of the other busted cd nodes you can now grab

[hard nexus]

THEY

THEY NERFED CHASTISE TRICK>???!?!??!?!??!

[heady rapids]

they them

[frosty herald]

one of the best things is that when you pick a cdr talent the others are locked

[placid fiber]

You could just take the 100% cd rate for 2s on weakspot/backstab hits as well

[carmine falcon]

ok now this is a sin

wtf did they do

[placid fiber]

What chastise trick?

[hard nexus]

ill explain soon

[heady rapids]

buffed all the chain weapons

[carmine falcon]

imma assume hitting fotf at the end of sewing animation

[placid fiber]

the chain weapons chastise trick?

[carmine falcon]

on evis

to deal fkton of dmg

u do the special then hit fotf right before it ends

[frosty herald]

is it chastice during a special heavy?

[carmine falcon]

and the last tick deals a lot of dmg

[long oasis]

aw man

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-thread-needle-cinderella-gif-8015272

[long oasis]

if its true I will be sad

[carmine falcon]

if they actually did that's dumb

[glossy nimbus]

Eh???

[carmine falcon]

evis is not exactly op

[heady rapids]

they buffed chain weps

[carmine falcon]

why even bother

[glossy nimbus]

Who gave a damn about loner

[carmine falcon]

how good is da buff

[heady rapids]

its good

[carmine falcon]

ill test them out later

[placid fiber]

Loner's #1 fan, aka someone that is unwelcome here(idk tbh)

[carmine falcon]

5 more hours until i can play properly

I HATE NA SCHEDULE

[royal vortex]

Struck down for her TRUTH

[heady rapids]

they reworked how sawing works against diff armor

[misty nova]

I just made Xiiig one shot a 6k hp crusher

Ok not one shot

1 Rev

[vast basin]

just tried martyrdom for a bit, seems pretty strong ngl

[misty nova]

[carmine falcon]

kino?

[misty nova]

Always have been

[vast basin]

new martyrs purpose good

[misty nova]

Just made it better

Foolproof even

[placid fiber]

Is that what happened? Doesn't surprise me tbh

[misty nova]

Always

It also feels

Faster

[long oasis]

is darcy evil or evil

[misty nova]

Have to see the notes later

[carmine falcon]

evis is gonna be so juicy on new marty brother

are u running same old blessings combo

[misty nova]

Actually

Chainsword might actually be peaker

It was hidden op on zealot

And now disdain is every hit

And riposte is a thing

[carmine falcon]

what about my goat

chain aaxe

[heady rapids]

they also bvuffed it

yeah

all chain weps got a buff

[carmine falcon]

fatfish i kneel so hard

i will never call you lazy again

[placid fiber]

I still think this might be a dream for me and I'll wake up to loner being there x.x

It's too good to be true

[orchid cipher]

Hows shroudfield now

[glossy nimbus]

What the fuck is this person talking about

[orchid cipher]

Prob gonna try a marty shadowfield build for once

[heady rapids]

@sullen forge opinion

[glossy nimbus]

The veteran literally got buffed

Wait this person only has like 46 hours

I don't think this person has an informed opinion

[median steeple]

Man trying to play thammer with buffed HP pools will take some time

holy shit

[long oasis]

dont read steam reviews man

theyre all unhinged

[glossy nimbus]

You'll live

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jNusv6r7cD9fkEfub?invite=cr-MSxUS1AsMjA0ODY2MDQ3&v=21

this was chastise trick

and

[mighty root]

How is against all odds?

[vast basin]

is only taking 2 wound curios good on marty now that there are 5 max stacks

[hard nexus]

after doing it, you maintained the crit and rending for one extra hit, but you dont anymore

AND

[sullen forge]

Whinging

but to be honest

[ripe quest]

They fixed it unless the release got botched. Can just ult prior.

[heady rapids]

chastise trick was supposed to be removed a long time ago

[sullen forge]

WS keystone has a stranglehold on the meta cause of all the good talents being there

[hard nexus]

mk3 sawing h1 used to chain into L1, allowing you to finish off enemies that werent killed by the rev

[heady rapids]

they tried to patch it out half a year ago or so

[placid fiber]

Honestly it shouldn't have kept the crit and rending for a hit after the sawing had it :\

[hard nexus]

but now it chains into l2

[sullen forge]

Also plasma gunners need a nerf

lmao

they dont even need to hit you to apply the debuff

that shit is fucking insane

if there is more than like 4

you will NOT

gain toughness ever

[hard nexus]

it made up for close BPs, but since now u need a good few buffs in order to reach crusher one shot, its an inconsistent breakpoint that u cant really make up for

sawing h1 should chain into L1

[long oasis]

not sure if the chain weapons really need it anymore besides evis

[misty nova]

Bloodthirsty Evis15 still doesn't care about Crushers

[long oasis]

chaxe hits for 6.5k on crusher

[placid fiber]

"How do we handle this power creep... oh I know!" laughs deviously while designing plasma gunner Fatshark employee, probably

[glossy nimbus]

Bait used to be believable

[sullen forge]

I love the idea

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-zealot-build where can I put these talents to optimize mah chud

[sullen forge]

I fucking hate how its currently executed

cause if there's even a group of them

[heady rapids]

thing is it was supposed to be fixed for a long time for now

[sullen forge]

you have to spam them out with frags

or pray to GOD they dont start shooting near you

[misty nova]

Where the fuck is plasma guy on the Psykhanium

[placid fiber]

nowhere

[mighty root]

I’ve thought about taken anoint in blood, purge the unclean

[misty nova]

Oh

Ok

[glossy nimbus]

It'll be updated soon enough

[placid fiber]

same place as bursters

[misty nova]

Thx Fatshark

[mighty root]

I ate him

[misty nova]

Wtf give it back

[heady rapids]

does plasma gunner have a sound cue for spawning?

i find him hard to find

when it appears

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269057322882437331/1356469802385936474/hoprblelysmal.gif

[misty nova]

This is ok

Chaxe is supposed to rip and tear flak and carapace

But fucking Chainsword

This shit is hitting for 6k

[heady rapids]

as it should

[placid fiber]

not much then, this is called warhammer 40k after all

[long oasis]

its a chainsword

[mighty root]

@hard nexus Can I see your crit build?

[carmine falcon]

chain bros eating GOOD
me when the iconic weapon is good

and not a fkn knife

[long oasis]

the KITCHEN KNIFE should not be better at killing cara than the chainsword on a stick in 40k

[misty nova]

Evis15 still not caring left and right

[ripe quest]

Ye. The Chainsword was the primary focus w/ the sticky attack overhaul.

[carmine falcon]

chainsword is on multiple classes

so understandable tbh

[ripe quest]

Might be a bit overtuned actually.

[hard nexus]

it meets a better one shot bp than mk3

:(

[misty nova]

Chainsword hitting for 6k
Having great horde clearing

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-grenade-truth-nuke-gif-6248133608324632914

[misty nova]

Being nimble

Alright

[carmine falcon]

mk3 gets buffed just to fall back behind next patch

[misty nova]

My hidden op has finally stopped hiding

[carmine falcon]

wait

i wonder how good it is on arbeetus now

[long oasis]

bring out the opp stomper 9000

[hard nexus]

i was the first one to point out how strong it was,,,

[placid fiber]

Does it really surprise you? They buffed the autopistol only to nerf it against scab ragers by giving them carapace chests

[median steeple]

@sullen forge I crashed

[ripe quest]

I mean this is just a continuation of the previous balancing for the Evis family making the Mk XV generally better than the Mk III. It really needs to be addressed.

[carmine falcon]

[hard nexus]

just made i t

and played for one match

so idk if its really any good rn

[carmine falcon]

at this point fatshark should just hire meow for this

the evis expert

[hard nexus]

yea

[carmine falcon]

but make sure u buff it more than meow suggests

[pale spindle]

Ok useless then

[carmine falcon]

cause itll be weak

[misty nova]

Wait

Is disdain

5% per enemy hit?

[hard nexus]

yeah

[twin saddle]

yo guys so is the heavy eviscerator any good now?

[misty nova]

So it's free 25

With riposte being another free 20

[hard nexus]

its a good weapon yeah

[misty nova]

And susass being another free melee

[twin saddle]

whats the buildaround? Martyrdom?

[hard nexus]

@twin saddle

[misty nova]

All 3 keystones

[hard nexus]

crit with perfect strike

[carmine falcon]

experiment

[hard nexus]

is what i run

[carmine falcon]

entire tree is loaded

[misty nova]

Ok

[heady rapids]

darktide is back baybeee

[hard nexus]

but with new trees, it should work well with the other options

due to more CDR choices

[mighty root]

Enemies within and enemies without is good now?

[ripe quest]

There are good folks for this already, the Evis just got tuning done on it. No matter the quality of said tuning there was a lot to the patch so it wasn't looked at.

[misty nova]

Evis15 main again

But I also have to make Perfectionist because my nickname

Hmmmm

[hard nexus]

it goes up to 7.5% per second depending on enemies near

[misty nova]

Shroud Evis15

[twin saddle]

what was the change for the eviscerator anyway? I heard it got buffed but idk what

[carmine falcon]

yeah understandable must have been a lot of work for everyone invovled

i did not expect 3 REWORKS

so hats off to everyone

we're overly critical but i respect everyone involved

good shit

[hard nexus]

much better maniac ADMs, better first target damage, removed cleave damage caps

overall made it stronger

[misty nova]

It's godlike melee

[ripe quest]

All of the chain weapons have a new setup for sticky attacks, fleshy targets have more of the damage in the shredding ticks and for armored targets the damage is mainly in the final tick.

[heady rapids]

3 class rework and reving rework

[misty nova]

Not the only one

[heady rapids]

crazy stuff

[misty nova]

But it's one

[heady rapids]

and its the smaller patch

[twin saddle]

i wanna make a bloodthirsty build, any chance to make it viable?

[placid fiber]

They changed it from our mk3 eviscerator god(meow) needing to use 100% skill, to probably like 50% lol

[twin saddle]

new setup? What does that mean?

[frosty herald]

Bloodthirsty is amazing for boss nuking

[misty nova]

Has been for a while

Martyrdom

Bloodthirsty Rampage

[carmine falcon]

legit huge u have no idea how much life will this breath into the game for me
i was getting bored of zealot and didnt really vibe with psyker or vet that much

[misty nova]

Evis15

[hard nexus]

mk15 is ur best bet with bloodthirsty

[ripe quest]

Basically just a rework. ADMs were rebalanced to fit the theme I put above.

[carmine falcon]

now i wanna play all 3 again

[hard nexus]

u should still be able to reach crusher one shot

[carmine falcon]

[misty nova]

Obliterates everything

Oh wow

Another 2k hours of Evis15

[carmine falcon]

hopefully this game is playable on musk internet otherwise its so over

[misty nova]

I love ear grating noise

[heady rapids]

you love to see it

[misty nova]

[twin saddle]

does vicious offering trigger if i rev it up? For 10% toughness? aka 20% cuz talents, i think it would be good because you kinda are vulnerable while sawing through crushers

[ripe quest]

I play on a dial-up equivalent so it'll be decent

[carmine falcon]

kino

im worried cause im gonna suffer with that for upcoming months

and it already lags on ethernet

but we will see

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1406988061509681285/image0.gif

[glossy nimbus]

You'll be fine just keep a look out for red lasers

[placid fiber]

plasma gunners are just darktide's version of eclipse 8 from ror2... just don't get hit

[twin saddle]

is thy wrath be swift any good with heavy evis?

[heady rapids]

i think they're going to get nerfed

[placid fiber]

hitstun immunity is nice to have, yes

[misty nova]

Specially when sawing stuff

[hard nexus]

why is it unseen blade but it has a hammer in it

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/kazotsky-kick-medic-scout-heavy-demoman-gif-18817281

[hard nexus]

unplayable

[misty nova]

If you don't chastise during it that is

[placid fiber]

thammer apparently is a blade

[sullen forge]

Chat

the plasma gunners can stun lock you in groups

[glossy nimbus]

Cuz u can't see the blade

Idot.

[placid fiber]

Gottem

[drifting wolf]

are plasma gunners just meaner snipers

[heady rapids]

somebody told me earlier today that you just shouldnt get into these situations to begin with

[placid fiber]

they made a "sniper" that actually is a threat

[heady rapids]

they close in and barrage you

insane fire rate

shot is a toughness break & -75% tgen debuff

and they're carapace

[drifting wolf]

okay so it's just a firing squad of snipers that aren't cowards

[exotic plaza]

heavy evis is something

[twin saddle]

what would be a good ranged weapon for a heavy evis build?

[placid fiber]

Did you check the body?

[frosty herald]

This is why its called unseen blade

[twin saddle]

since its a full melee build i need something to focus gunners i guess? Bolt pistol?

[heady rapids]

idk its what ive been told

[frosty herald]

Do you see a blade in the icon?

[placid fiber]

What I heard earlier is that the heads were carapace

[drifting wolf]

i heard someone say carapace head flak body

[tight fog]

I think the helmet is carapace and the body is flak like with maulers

[heady rapids]

@frosty herald whats the armor on plasma

[misty nova]

Any

Really

But like

[frosty herald]

Flak body carapace head

[misty nova]

Get a mobile one

Laspistol

Shredder Auto Pistol

[ripe quest]

better question why is the giant hammer swinging at batman

[misty nova]

Infantry Autoguns

[drifting wolf]

bistol!!!!

[hard nexus]

RIP thammer oneshot without chastise

[frosty herald]

The carapace head does fuck me over

Shits hard

[misty nova]

Absolute hammer vs absolute batman

[royal vortex]

all part of the plan

[golden flint]

How's zealot now chat

[twin saddle]

so bolt pistol doesent count as mobile i assume?

[royal vortex]

maybe i will play live darktide again

[placid fiber]

is omega used to going for headshots
new special uses this against you

[misty nova]

It up there

Somewhere

I don't really run bistol

[ripe quest]

implies you play non-live darktide which I know isn't true

[placid fiber]

afraid of plasma gunners, from what I've gathered

[glossy nimbus]

I one shot crushers w my knife

[misty nova]

Went from blender to industrial fan

[golden flint]

Do plasma gunners role a D6 to blow up like on the tabletop

[royal vortex]

Darktide Mobile

[void bison]

I play smart fridge darktide

[golden flint]

What does this mean

[drifting wolf]

you annihilate birds

[void bison]

more dangerous to underpaid workers

[misty nova]

Went from mass murderer to planetary murderer

[solar gorge]

i fucking hate birds sop much

[misty nova]

Got better

That's what I mean

[golden flint]

Are there more viable build options now?

[placid fiber]

it went from putting out a tiny slight breeze... to blowing over people and cars

[golden flint]

I wasn't a huge fan of having to run the knifey build path before

[void bison]

kevin hates you too

[sullen forge]

My bad for rounding a corner and immediately getting stun locked to death

[misty nova]

Oh yeah

[hard nexus]

@spare talon whatd u run for thammer in h40

[misty nova]

Got better

Can use all 3 blitzes

[carmine falcon]

cole ran marty hammerino

[golden flint]

I was running a scuffed gunzealot before the update

[misty nova]

Every build has until death

[trail walrus]

That sadly happens alot with trappers or hounds

[placid fiber]

cough

[hard nexus]

yah i meant specifically what build

i wanna see if it lines up with what ive crafted

[misty nova]

I know what I said

[trail walrus]

Yea, for zealot thats tbh the best way to go for every bulid

[misty nova]

🗣️

[median steeple]

plasma gunners on vent purge are a thing yes

great

fun

[placid fiber]

[median steeple]

yum

!

[hard nexus]

psycho have u tried doding

[median steeple]

have you tried gargling my nuts

[void bison]

are plasma gunners like snipers where you have to dodge to not be obliterate

[misty nova]

All the event are low visibility

[placid fiber]

and people were saying it was probably only gonna be a mortis trial enemy

[golden flint]

If you insist

[glossy nimbus]

Yea

[misty nova]

Adjacent

[hard nexus]

no thanks im not a fan of mushrooms

[median steeple]

they were stupid

[hard nexus]

take a shower

[misty nova]

If you don't get hit you still get debuffed

[hard nexus]

stinky.

[misty nova]

Lol

[heady rapids]

oh

[median steeple]

I SHOWER MORE THAN YOU

[heady rapids]

is the event live?

[median steeple]

yea

it's cool

rahter fight scabs than dregs

[hard nexus]

i literally showered last week dude dont pmo

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-kitty-battle-kitty-battle-kitten-attack-kittens-fight-gif-7508370341682640059

[ripe quest]

Agri Railgun is really fun with this patch

[sullen forge]

I like the idea of plasma gunners

[hard nexus]

how is VAG !

[sullen forge]

I dont like the idea they can apply the debuff without hitting you + stun lock you to death

[sullen forge]

Its so-so

[hard nexus]

unless u responded to me asking earlier

and i didnt see

[sullen forge]

it could use more

but its in a better spot

[golden flint]

Implying it wasn't before

[hard nexus]

i knew wed get tau weapons eventually,,,