zealot-class

[drowsy steppe]

The what

[drifting wolf]

the build

[heady rapids]

the la li lu le lo

[tropic egret]

I think that's "Unfaltering". I wanted to use that but no, it just didn't make the cut. (If I had 1 more point, I think I would have picked it)

[frosty herald]

oh yeah

the cdr cooldown is also pretty damn strong

since its on backstab and weakspot for shroud

[misty nova]

You're telling me

They stack

[spring storm]

YOOOO

[misty nova]

[heady rapids]

what about the furry

[misty nova]

Welp

[heady rapids]

can I still run furey

[misty nova]

You'll never see me on the field

[tropic egret]

Do you all feel like you're doing more damage than you used to, or does the game feel the same to you
(I'm speaking to nobody in particular heh)

[misty nova]

Shroud field

[glacial totem]

so whats the general concensus on the rework? good or bad?

[heady rapids]

it should amount to more dmg in a majority of builds

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif

[true kindle]

Love the chain special changes. Was rippin and tearin through ragers and bulwarks with my evis

[acoustic dune]

What's the build now

After the zeal rework

[tropic egret]

feels that way to me... it felt like the game became easier
(but I've only played 1 match so am not sure)

[glacial totem]

i see

[heady rapids]

is the build alright???

[glossy nimbus]

This is just fucking beautiful

[heady rapids]

scabs got more hp to compensate and they made auric harder

[glossy nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-nice-great-excellent-the-boys-gif-15593741

[tropic egret]

I did a Heresy to be safe, to test things. But yeah ok, I'll try Auric

[glacial totem]

oh fuck yeah

[fathom helm]

Is being stun immune and uninterruptible the same thing?

[glossy nimbus]

Shit man now I wanna make a knife zealot build

auuuuguuuhuhuhhuh

[misty nova]

Good

[frosty herald]

shits fucking strong

[misty nova]

Still bummed on really specific things

But overall good

[frosty herald]

did 80% of a plogryn's health with an unoptimized backstab

[heady rapids]

finally no more build

I can play what I want

[drifting wolf]

do you think they'll do something for dregs or nah assuming they haven't done that already

[misty nova]

Yes

[lone matrix]

no loner?

[misty nova]

Nag

Fuck loner

Burn in holy fire

[frosty herald]

i think dregs are gonna deviate into something different

[fathom helm]

I thought so, thanks.

[lone matrix]

what then?

[misty nova]

I think they'll eventually increase the number of dregs spawned

[carmine falcon]

shroundfield rn is just a better fotf dmg wise lmao

[heady rapids]

ok so
they kinda already have
dreg gunner has an annoying unarmoured head
dreg rager is faster
dreg mauler is yet to be added

[misty nova]

Duelist Nerf

[silent wren]

MCS is worded wrong, right? it says duration increased by 5 seconds, when it should read duration increased TO 5 seconds

[misty nova]

It good more useful overall

But weaker as well

[lone matrix]

everyone saw it comming

[misty nova]

Yeah but

Not like this

[fresh nacelle]

really liked the new boltgun

CC stick

[misty nova]

From +weakspot +crit

[frosty herald]

i dont mind

[misty nova]

To +finesse

[frosty herald]

it duelist was absurdly strong

[lone matrix]

i find parry fitting to duelling sword

[heady rapids]

updating darktide

[lone matrix]

and i need to try the psyker special variant

[misty nova]

Also like

20% melee after 5 dodges

So I'd say it evens out

[lone matrix]

no buffs to heavy sword...

[misty nova]

And I don't have a real reason to be bummed

[heady rapids]

its good enough tbh and they made crusher spawn less frequently

[misty nova]

And carapace wearing enemies got bulkier

[heady rapids]

think of that as a net positive

[lone matrix]

out of curiosity now dclaw and d sword similar Special does it not make dclaw worse?

[heady rapids]

just hit them in the flak part

[misty nova]

Yeah

Dclaws dead

[tulip gulch]

Pretty much

[misty nova]

Like

[heady rapids]

dclaw was never a real weapon

[misty nova]

Dead dead

[heady rapids]

just a concept

dclaw does not exist anymore

[glossy nimbus]

dump stat on bolt pistol should be coll yeah?

[heady rapids]

wasnt the dumpstat different

for the new variants

[misty nova]

New bistol might like collat

[glossy nimbus]

hm

[lone matrix]

how does evicerator feel now?

[true kindle]

Great

[heady rapids]

cant wait to play

[lone matrix]

and normal chainsword?

[misty nova]

Shroudfield gives rending now huh

[true kindle]

No idea

[tulip gulch]

Fury too

[cerulean moth]

What is up with the new bolt pistol?

What’s it even do

[heady rapids]

they updated all chain weapons

[drifting wolf]

bigger boom

[heady rapids]

the chain part of them

[cerulean moth]

Oh that’s..cool

[misty nova]

Always did

Well

[tulip gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[cerulean moth]

What makes that useful haha

[drifting wolf]

explosions are cool

[misty nova]

It's less direct damage
Higher aoe

[cerulean moth]

Does it do more damage because of it or is that just aoe

Oh ok

[heady rapids]

Assault Chainswords

We are introducing multiple changes and improvements for the Assault Chainsword family, to raise one the most iconic 40K weapons up a bit.

Several attack profiles have been improved in damage, finesse and/or impact properties.

We have also widened the hitboxes of most attacks, tweaked them to be more aligned with their animations, and allowed all attacks to be performed while sprinting instead of resetting the combo chain.

For the Mk IV, we added a new Heavy Strikedown attack, which can be reached after Light 1 to create an easy to access single target chain.

(Note that this will mean that Heavy 2 will no longer be reachable after Light 1)

For the Mk XIIIg, we changed the combo structure after a Heavy 2 attack to allow for an easier crowd control attack direction: it will now chain into Light 2 / Heavy 3 instead of Light 4 / Heavy 3.

We increased the power level multiplier of the Light 4 attack to reward it being further into the attack chain.

Finally, we tweaked several windup and chain timings to make the weapon more responsive.

For the full list of changes, check out the full patch notes on our website.

[lone matrix]

borderlands torgue shouts at you

[cerulean moth]

Them making it so sprinting doesn’t restart the crushing combo is a fat nerd

[autumn shadow]

Just spotted something crazy

The new Unfaltering perk

Removes the movement debuff when charging heavy melee

[misty nova]

It's whatever really

[cerulean moth]

Yeah it’s great

[autumn shadow]

HAMMER

[lone matrix]

rgs?

[carmine falcon]

its cool

ill be using cool stuff in my builds

and not just min maxxing

[misty nova]

Yeah

It's whatever

[heady rapids]

this kinda resembles the build

[carmine falcon]

min maxxing is boring

[misty nova]

I can't blame you

But I can't praise you

[carmine falcon]

cant escape the shape......

[misty nova]

It's whatever

[lone matrix]

ehat is the worst meele weapon ingame now?

[misty nova]

Dclaw

[heady rapids]

dclaw passed

to make dsword good

[lone matrix]

and range weapon?

[heady rapids]

helbore

orrrr

autopistol

[misty nova]

I think it's the middle brauto

[misty nova]

You

[heady rapids]

or heavy laspistol 2

[misty nova]

Did

Not

Say

That

[frosty herald]

psyker also got some amazing new talents

finally tank psyker is real

[misty nova]

Helbore so good it competes with plasma for top 1 vet ranged

Fuck melee psyker

[lone matrix]

slaps harder with fgs

[misty nova]

They brought pyromancer

🗣️

Pyromancer

[heady rapids]

they keep moving my portraits

[misty nova]

I missed you so much

[lone matrix]

hoi

i am a meeleker

[misty nova]

Pyromancer is talking

[carmine falcon]

i can finally play psyker

[misty nova]

Get your unchained ass to the Frontline

[carmine falcon]

i just cant make the class work at high ping

now i can

[scenic drift]

hmm, did we lose ranged damage nodes overall?

[misty nova]

C'mon double time it

[lament ruin]

i need to make a meme crystalline will perils build

[misty nova]

Also Scriers buff

Another one

Hahahah

[lone matrix]

i played battlemage or necro in vermintide 2

[lament ruin]

another one??/

[misty nova]

Psyker keeps winning with these updates

[glossy nimbus]

With the AOE bolt mark does it apply bleed to groups hit?

[frosty herald]

it dont

[misty nova]

Yeah
20% tdr is base Scriers now

[frosty herald]

grab britleness and pinning fire

[lament ruin]

ah yeah

[tulip gulch]

Only direct hit

[glossy nimbus]

I'm usin bolt pis

[misty nova]

Another 500 buffs to Psyker

[lament ruin]

also assail buff!

[heady rapids]

time to buy a 2nd bolter

[misty nova]

And smite buff and nerf

[carmine falcon]

thank god i saved lots of dockets

[lament ruin]

no longer locked out of psykinetics

[carmine falcon]

now i can gamble for varients

yaaaayyyyy

[exotic plaza]

what blessing to use on evis

[misty nova]

Depends

I run Bloodthirsty Rampage on 15

You could go

Pstrike Shred

Rampage Sweep

[heady rapids]

wow this tree

is fucking great

i cant lie

[misty nova]

Of course it is
Fatshark learned

[bright mango]

is the heavy lazpistol worth running?

[misty nova]

After 3 years

[misty nova]

Mk2

[bright mango]

I'm trying to figure out how it's supposed to be used

and what perks and such I should run for it

[acoustic dune]

we live in a society

[misty nova]

Aim for the head
Spam click

[bright mango]

what perks should I use to that end?

[craggy otter]

one shotting monstrosities is back on the menu

[frosty herald]

Use the dodge blessing

[bright mango]

gotcha! what about the 2nd blessing?

[misty nova]

Flakiacs is always relive

[drowsy steppe]

flakiac..

[carmine falcon]

this is the clear winner of the rework for me

will make zealot stand out

as the speediest speed demon

[bright mango]

flakiac?

[drifting wolf]

flak + maniac

[heady rapids]

time to try out the csword

[spring storm]

56 --> 50 its joever

[carmine falcon]

joe bidenover

[glossy nimbus]

Time to fix my mods

[midnight ermine]

So about the zealot tree rework. The unfaltering perk looks good on paper but doesn't it basically just do the same thing as thy wrath be swift? Twbs makes you immune to stuns and unfaltering makes you uninterruptible

[exotic plaza]

what the dump on heavy evis again

[hearty nebula]

so

is it just me

[exotic plaza]

cleave target?

[carmine falcon]

mobility for evis

[hearty nebula]

or is martyrdom CDR still just outright worse than any other option

[carmine falcon]

pretty sure people only dumped cleave targets cause of the cap

[midnight ermine]

Pretty sure its mobility for just about everything

[exotic plaza]

no lol

you dont usually dump mobility on slow weapon

also yeah the difference between 60 and 80 is minimal

cleave it is

[hearty nebula]

yea basically

idk

[midnight ermine]

Idk for sure. Maybe on crit heavy builds. But if you have like, thammer then maybe its worth

[hearty nebula]

there's a guide

use it. all the weapon stuff is still up to date

[tulip gulch]

Its good because it continues active without you needing to do anything

[midnight ermine]

I don't like that you can't stack cdr with the perks

Because i'm pretty sure ogryn can

[tulip gulch]

Other than staying at low health

And if youre doing a martyrdom build youre already going to do that

[midnight ermine]

50% cdr seems pretty underwhelming tbh

[tulip gulch]

Its 50% that is constantly active

[misty nova]

Yeah

[river oriole]

???

[midnight ermine]

It cuts the chorus cd to maybe 45 i think

[river oriole]

[misty nova]

From 30 seconds to 15

[tulip gulch]

40

And thats not considering cdr curios

Or the psyker cdr aura

[midnight ermine]

I hadn't considered the cdr curios tbh but thats true

[misty nova]

Cleave dump on the mk3 is bad

You lose a lot of cleave breakpoints

[exotic plaza]

oh im using mk3

[true kindle]

I think that would be +100% CDR. +50% CDR means that your ability cools down 50% faster than normal, resulting in a 33% reduction of the total cooldown duration.

[midnight ermine]

I'm fairly sure its not reducing it by half. Because thats what 100% cdr does. Unless i'm just not knowing what cdr calculations are in darktide

[misty nova]

Oh yeah

[acoustic dune]

Me and who
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[true kindle]

+100% CDR is twice as fast as normal

[misty nova]

That might be the case

So yeah

[acoustic dune]

Ah shit mod is here

I am cooked

[misty nova]

50% not that funky

[midnight ermine]

But the fact that its active all the time is still pretty nifty

[misty nova]

Unless

[midnight ermine]

I might try it on my martyrdom build

[gaunt roost]

does the talent tree being changed reset all my builds

[acoustic dune]

Yeah

[misty nova]

Just go cutthroat

[gaunt roost]

[acoustic dune]

As always

[midnight ermine]

But honestly it'll just be worse than using a crit evis and iod

[midnight ermine]

So is unfaltering kinda a pointless perk?

[exotic plaza]

unfaltering is good on thammer

[misty nova]

Yeah

[exotic plaza]

better than thy wrath be swift

[gaunt roost]

is numeric ui or true level broken on new patch

[midnight ermine]

Whats the difference if they both make you immune to being knocked out of heavies?

[carmine falcon]

its cool
something they did with ogryn and arbite trees is adding a lot of cool little perks that arent super good but fun to use

and they're doing the same with the rest

[misty nova]

Unless they changed Twbs

Twbs is always active

Always

Unless they changed it

[midnight ermine]

Still the same

[misty nova]

So yeah it's probably one of those

If you can't afford thy wrath

Get Unfaltering

If you can afford thy wrath

Unfaltering 💀

[exotic plaza]

unfaltering doesnt slow you down

wwhen you use heavy

[misty nova]

Which is whatever as well

[exotic plaza]

which is good because the only thing you use on thammer is heavy and push attack anyway

[misty nova]

Zealot will be in melee range at all times

If the enemy is all the way over there

Just sprint to it

Or chastise

[midnight ermine]

Yeah chastise is a must for thammer

[misty nova]

Idk

I'm a shroud hammer

[midnight ermine]

I like chastise the wicked more as a name

[drowsy steppe]

@ripe quest do you have the power falchion adm breakdowns for all armor types. And is it different when the weapons activated?

[midnight ermine]

So i never use shroud

[misty nova]

We call it

Shame

[midnight ermine]

Also i like having 2 charges

[exotic plaza]

also server fucking dying\

the last 3 game are unplayable

[gaunt roost]

the new tree looks so weird 😭

[midnight ermine]

Has disdain been changed?

[lucid cosmos]

So…. Loner is gone. Did the remove/change the penance?

[misty nova]

Yes

Every attack

Instead of every other

[gaunt roost]

they changed it but kept the name and icon so it makes no sense

[mild sparrow]

I think I'm still too traumatised by the penances to use shroudfield

[exotic plaza]

is it just me or there massive desync in every game

[mild sparrow]

Maybe one day

[exotic plaza]

even worse than normal

[heady rapids]

plasma gunners are crazy

[lucid cosmos]

I’m just happy we don’t have a broken penance lol

[ivory marlin]

Chat sucks that zealot rework happened day of the rapture

[heady rapids]

if you dont instantly rush them down its very easy to lose

[lucid cosmos]

That aura was stupid and I’m glad it’s gone

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-attention-tiktok-people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-sighing-gif-16370965302781532502

[heady rapids]

also ogryn spam hi

[midnight ermine]

Also the martyrdom buff is great

[misty nova]

Just one shot it man

Tf you doing

[heady rapids]

running new bolter

did not like it

[lucid cosmos]

Does a relic blade charge stab still one shot a crusher?

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/twerk-twerking-emoji-twerking-emoji-gif-10634614344804381720

[heady rapids]

ill probably swap back to bpistol and run flame nades now

wooo

[lucid cosmos]

We have the best horde clearing gun, so it’s not really for us

[ivory marlin]

Stay mad you aren’t getting raptured like i am

Getting raptured so hard rn

[lucid cosmos]

Praise be the holy purifying fire

[heady rapids]

whats the best ds mark now

[ivory marlin]

How does zealot feel now?

[heady rapids]

good

[ivory marlin]

Woah

[heady rapids]

a lot more toughness gen

[ivory marlin]

Oh sick

[craggy jackal]

oh did the zealot rework finally happen

[buoyant pewter]

I still stand by the opinion that stealth should not exist in this game

[ivory marlin]

Today!

[misty nova]

Mk2

[midnight ermine]

Whats different for bolter

[ivory marlin]

Stealth in a hoard shooter is silly

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-meme-heaven-lisa-simpson-gif-12060027155467956575

[heady rapids]

it blows up now

[craggy jackal]

wonderful

[midnight ermine]

Like the plasma gun blow up?

Why?

[craggy jackal]

cannot wait to choose my own talents only to come back here and be told im stupid

[misty nova]

Zealot can aggro dump harder than before

[heady rapids]

no like it blows up

[misty nova]

-75% presence

Lmfao

[midnight ermine]

You're stoopid

[misty nova]

You're schewpeed

There

No more fear of getting called stupid

You're welcome

[midnight ermine]

Shoe-peed

[craggy jackal]

i have no fear

[lucid cosmos]

Larger blast radius 5m vs 3m but lower damage

[craggy jackal]

i play zealot

[ivory marlin]

Told god to let me stay so i can play zealot rework on darktide

[misty nova]

Now go and choose freely

[midnight ermine]

That sounds very worthless tbh

[buoyant pewter]

Imo it’s just “I can’t handle what’s in front of me” button which is a skill issue. Just my opinion though.

[misty nova]

Damn, didn't know you had clout like that

[lucid cosmos]

Better vs hordes

[buoyant pewter]

It sounds and looks cool. Which is enough for me

[heady rapids]

yes so you use it to reposition and handle it

[ivory marlin]

Yeah im basically his favorite

[heady rapids]

i dont see the problem

[midnight ermine]

I feel like thats still kinda a pointless role for a zealot gun to play

[lucid cosmos]

It’s also mass suppression at a distance

[midnight ermine]

But i guess arbite and vet also have it

[buoyant pewter]

Or just, don’t get yourself into a situation you can’t handle.

Making the enemies everyone else’s problem is dumb

[heady rapids]

with that way of thinking the best way would be not to launch the game

thanks for your input

[ivory marlin]

Oh fr?

[heady rapids]

why

[ivory marlin]

Is zealot stealth better than vet yet or nah

[heady rapids]

im gonna run mk4 for a game still

[obsidian prairie]

They added stuff to prevent aggro dumping

[lucid cosmos]

Shroud field is meant to be a “melee kill this special” ability

[buoyant pewter]

Nah, if I’d have a stealth, I’d rather have a vet.

[lucid cosmos]

Or a res an ally

[frosty herald]

Servers might be unstable

[lucid cosmos]

Now that loner is gone

[ivory marlin]

Vets stay sinning

[lucid cosmos]

It’s a lot less toxic

[ivory marlin]

Rest in piss loner

You were no one’s favorite

[lucid cosmos]

Nah it was people’s favorite

[buoyant pewter]

Loner is, again, weird to exist in a “coop” game

[lucid cosmos]

Those people gave zealot a bad name

[ivory marlin]

Fly low king 🕊️

[ivory marlin]

No one important’s

[gaunt roost]

ofc this happens after i get the backstab penance

[royal vortex]

i took it in the build where i fish for people to leave in the pre-mission lobby

[rustic ingot]

It’s good for a specific role as zealot but I’m sad that it’s leaving as it’s the role I usually filled as zealot

[ivory marlin]

Hi josho

[lucid cosmos]

You still have it, they just changed the condition as I understand it

[ivory marlin]

I killed you in game and you dropped a piece of paper that just said “IOU” on it

[modern carbon]

did zealot lose any attack speed?
I have someone saying it did but I feel like it only got more

[midnight ermine]

Loner was strange but honestly this replacement aura is kinda ehhhh

[obsidian prairie]

Loner was literally useless

[frosty herald]

Extremely unstable

[royal vortex]

We're out of stock. Please wait 3 to 6 months to receive your reward

[obsidian prairie]

Anything is an upgrade

[ivory marlin]

Ok

[midnight ermine]

I'm still gonna take benediction tbh

[gaunt roost]

no i mean they made the penance wayyy easier after i already got it

[ivory marlin]

Is it a shirt cosmetic that says “i killed josho and all i got was this shirt” or is less useful

[midnight ermine]

Also hey i can take off 2 wound curios and still get full value out of martyrdom

[royal vortex]

I'm not sure. They turned down all my ideas and banned me from managing inventory

[ivory marlin]

Dang

[midnight ermine]

Unless my math was wrong that is

[lament ruin]

you still need two wound curious for all 5 stacks no?

2+2+2 = 6 wounds

once you're missing 5 wounds

[ivory marlin]

Ill honestly also take like 5 diamantes

[lament ruin]

you get full buff

[midnight ermine]

Uhh 2 by default, +2 from perk, +1 from a curio. 2+2+1=5. And the perk caps at 5

[lament ruin]

dont you need to be

[midnight ermine]

I might be misunderstanding how it works

[lament ruin]

fully missing wounds

[gaunt roost]

so is arb just never getting cosmetics again

[midnight ermine]

I don't think so

[misty nova]

Same heavy 1 as Mk4
Different h2 that gives if better horde clearing prowess

[frosty herald]

The new mortis map is amazing

[ivory marlin]

I hope not, i like my drip but one day ill bore of it

[exotic plaza]

you need 6 to get 5 wound

buff

[midnight ermine]

I guess i was wrong then

[heady rapids]

ill try it out

[placid dust]

Cdr nerfs on zealot kinda killed shroudfield 😭

[midnight ermine]

Still, frees up one curio slot

[heady rapids]

so far it feels like an overall buff to ds

[midnight ermine]

What nerfs? I feel like the perks are the same

Except martyrs purpose

[obsidian prairie]

They literally buffed shroudfields cdr

[exotic plaza]

mk2 lose single target combo though

can't loop stab anymore

[frosty herald]

SHOP ROTATION IS HERE

[glossy nimbus]

slop rotation

[bright mango]

THEY GOT THE GOODS

[frosty herald]

i have insane uptime on shroudfield now

wait wait

these pages are huge

[ivory marlin]

Peak or poop?

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah I was going to play stereotype zealot or pirate vet later today

[gaunt roost]

peak

cyclops ogryn

[obsidian prairie]

I'm probably renaming my vet after I've realized I just play a pirate

[misty nova]

Field is refunding CDR though

[ivory marlin]

You uh, you left out a page

I bet its peak

[frosty herald]

arbites didnt get anything

[obsidian prairie]

Gw moment

[ivory marlin]

And you want me to see it for myself

[drifting wolf]

machine

[ivory marlin]

Couldn’t be

Just tryna psych me out for peak

[drowsy steppe]

actually good slop

[misty nova]

Fatshark keeps proving Arby's is mid

It's kinda funny

[drowsy steppe]

maybe in the next content update

[quartz yoke]

I guess I can do this now?

[drowsy steppe]

which is gonna be like

2-3 months away

[drowsy steppe]

tyes

[heady rapids]

so far

great patch

ds buffs are great

[gaunt roost]

ooh the games not stable at all

[quartz yoke]

so exicted for parry

[heady rapids]

runn9ing fine for me

[midnight ermine]

Does shield of contempt only target the one who takes damage?

[heady rapids]

its awesome

[drowsy steppe]

it crashed me tf out when I play exe stance vet

games shtting the bed

[heady rapids]

ive yet to encounter an issue

runs good

[gaunt roost]

it crashed for me when i left mid mission

fatshark finally doing something about leavers

[quartz yoke]

does ammo replentish of out of pocket count for knives?

[surreal shore]

hey te chain word

i mean chain axe

thatss not rally a finese wepaon right?

[gaunt roost]

ogryn typing

[drowsy steppe]

crashed again 💀

[misty nova]

Yeah

But it should be a great flak carapace killer

[surreal shore]

god hate redoing builds

[gaunt roost]

same

[surreal shore]

trying to figure if i need duelist

or not with my chainaxe and flamer build

[hearty nebula]

what the fuck

stealth no longer stinky doodoo...

well

less stinky doodoo

[midnight ermine]

Restorative verses for martyrdom definitely exists

Idk if i'd call it good

But its there

[glossy nimbus]

Dawg I did so much fuckign knife damage on a beast of nurgle

[ripe quest]

Oh y'know I didn't think to do that. I'll get that info parsed and in a doc for viewing by today.

[midnight ermine]

I should give knife zealot a shot one day. But it doesn't feel zealous enough

I only use sanctified weapons on my priest

[drowsy steppe]

looking forward to it!

[midnight ermine]

God emperors finest

[ripe quest]

It's mathematically absurd with TDR. It shouldn't exist.

[sullen forge]

Nothing for arby yet again?

[midnight ermine]

Absurd like absurdly great or absurdly bad

[ripe quest]

Like +toughness replenish just is too multiplicative with what we have. It's really good.

With just Martyrdom you double effective toughness gen

[glossy nimbus]

It's very zealous you're an insane woman fucking running around with a knife stabbing people. I think there was even an italian troop group that used just knives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arditi

[midnight ermine]

My zealot is an insane man so it doesn't work

[glossy nimbus]

Yeah thes e guys were insane

[glossy nimbus]

woman contains man so same thing

[midnight ermine]

In the end we all just some man honestly

Everyone on earth, a man

[heady rapids]

ds is so fun now

[drowsy steppe]

one simply needs faith to be zealous

[misty nova]

Ah yes
Bf1

[midnight ermine]

Well actually zealous is an aura

[drowsy steppe]

many of these guys went on to become italian fascist

[misty nova]

Hey that's my favorite mission

[midnight ermine]

[misty nova]

They give you a heavy gun

And some makeshift armor

Go

[ivory marlin]

Kinda crazy that zealot rework was on the day of the rapture…..

[misty nova]

Take this mountain down

Then you 1v15 planes

[ivory marlin]

God works at fat shark

[misty nova]

It's peak

[buoyant pewter]

Holy MOLY they dropped some fire

[ivory marlin]

Only possible explanation

[buoyant pewter]

Theyre trynna make some money today

[midnight ermine]

Its that good huh?

[ornate bone]

sooooo does anyone have some good builds done up yet? new tree is much different!

[buoyant yarrow]

Testing. Feels so nice to not get so railroaded now

[buoyant pewter]

Me when there is more than one build

[ornate bone]

I heard we are much tougher

[buoyant yarrow]

More scarier now

[buoyant pewter]

I like that they made until death a mandatory node, since like, everyone takes it anyway

[exotic plaza]

yeah

also zealot tanky as hell now

[gaunt roost]

yea its nice that its now part of zealots identity officially

[midnight ermine]

Tbh i built mine mostly the same. But better in every way and more room for extra talents

[heady rapids]

lowk you should experiment rn

[buoyant yarrow]

I wonder if Blood zealot is gonna be a thing now

[heady rapids]

buildcrafting is great rn

[midnight ermine]

The zealots duality. Simultaneously a tank and a glass cannon

[exotic plaza]

fym glass cannon lol

now you can survive so much shit

[heady rapids]

kraks might be on par with shredders rn btw

with scab buffs

and krak buffs

they're great rn

[carmine falcon]

not a single class is glass cannon now even psyker can be built not to fold

[exotic plaza]

nothing beat shredder cc though

[carmine falcon]

not sure if i like this

but who cares

[midnight ermine]

Well martyrdom requires low health which is a staple of being a glass cannon

[buoyant yarrow]

A squad of plasma gunners are a thing now

[exotic plaza]

no lol

[frosty herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uJMelJSwNys?si=G4i6GemzfJ1fPn53

[heady rapids]

yeah but now your scab trash isnt trash anymore

and crushers have 2x hp

[exotic plaza]

you can stack so much toughness damage res + regen now

[gaunt roost]

martyrdom is the least glass cannon you can get on zealot the toughness dr you get is absurd

[frosty herald]

how darktide players are gonna be talking about the plasma gunner

[heady rapids]

patch is great

plasma gunner is scary

rush it down asap

[exotic plaza]

plasma gunner is eh

[midnight ermine]

Its a lot of tdr

[heady rapids]

as soon as you know is there

rush it down

[frosty herald]

you need to rush it down

[buoyant yarrow]

Suppression might be worth now?

[frosty herald]

they can penentrate golden toughness

that alone is scary

[exotic plaza]

yeah

[lament ruin]

as in deal hp damage through golden toughnes?

[heady rapids]

they're rextremely scary

[carmine falcon]

TOOO HARD!!! PLS NERF!!!!

[heady rapids]

they rapid fire

[midnight ermine]

Hasn't the tdr and attack speed been nerfed for martyrdom? Since there's less stacks and value hasn't changed i don't think

[frosty herald]

they can deal bleedthrough damage yeah

[carmine falcon]

I CANT KILL 100 OF THEM AT ONCE

[lament ruin]

values got increased

[heady rapids]

its as if the enemies got a plasma vet themselves

[frosty herald]

nah

[silent wren]

no

[frosty herald]

plasma gunners are mini captains

[midnight ermine]

Ik it did for damage but i cant remember the old values for attack speed and tdr

[heady rapids]

yah

[silent wren]

AS went from 4 to 6%

[heady rapids]

ewew is broken

[lament ruin]

30% atk speed

[misty nova]

No

[buoyant yarrow]

I need to brush up on my axe skills again

[misty nova]

The stacks were lowered but the bonuses were raised

[lament ruin]

atk speed buffs stack additively?

[exotic plaza]

yes

[placid fiber]

the total tdr was nerfed by a total 1.5%, absolutely unplayable

[lament ruin]

70% atk speed time

[distant lantern]

why do people say martyrdom has better CD, it's 50% when at low health while left tee is 100% CD when critting, which is basically active all the time?

[midnight ermine]

Finally, lore accurate zealot

[misty nova]

Total tdr and it's 7 stacks (unreachable at higher difficulties)

[exotic plaza]

pious cutthroat is better but ok

[midnight ermine]

I mean you may be running a build that doesn't have as high crit chance

[exotic plaza]

it activates on every melee weakspot hit

[placid fiber]

I was talking damnation, which it was 39% in :3

[heady rapids]

it doesnt

but what it does

[exotic plaza]

no crit conditional

[heady rapids]

is have toughness regen

like insane toughness regen on marty now

[midnight ermine]

I'm not gonna use it on my heavy evis build but i definitely will try it on my thammer build

I only use martyrdom for both

[lament ruin]

70% atk speed relic blade 👀

[midnight ermine]

I can't play zealot without martyrdom

[heady rapids]

i need to try out marty

[midnight ermine]

I'm just too used to it now

[exotic plaza]

it's the strongest zealot build atm

until you get hit by plasma

[midnight ermine]

I tried a ds bp build before. It was lame as hell

[heady rapids]

you get all your toughness back rq

[midnight ermine]

Then i tried shroud

[heady rapids]

but yeah

rush plasma down

[placid fiber]

Does plasma instant toughness break?

If it does, they brought back launch fire!

[misty nova]

Yes

It's old fire but as an enemy

That isn't a captain

It breaks even gold

[frosty herald]

plasma always does that

[frosty herald]

luckily it doesnt give a guardbreak

[heady rapids]

its bleak

[frosty herald]

now that would be scary

[carmine falcon]

new parry is not a nerf

exhibit A

[placid fiber]

"Parry this casual!" -Mauler, probably

[heady rapids]

wtf

[carmine falcon]

HAXXOORRRR

[heady rapids]

i love discord

shit platform

[remote hare]

With faiths fortitude how many wound curios for max martydom stacks? is it 1 or 2?

[placid fiber]

2 on heresy+ now

[remote hare]

ah ok thanks

[sullen forge]

Just learned how the plasma gunner dont even need to hit you to apply the debuff

this is fucking painful getting hit by a pack of them

[frosty herald]

the martyrdom changes are a buff because of being able to pick a free curio

[placid fiber]

What debuff do they apply?

[misty nova]

And

Being at max stacks

[sullen forge]

Decreased Toughness gain and regen

[median steeple]

the slow?

[frosty herald]

-75% toughness regen

[midnight ermine]

Also the damage value is an increase i think

[placid fiber]

Oof

[sullen forge]

if its at all near you

[placid fiber]

[misty nova]

5 stacks of martyrdom now is 2% better than 6 stacks of martyrdom back then

[sullen forge]

you get hit with the debuff

[frosty herald]

terrifying to get hit by them

[sullen forge]

they dont need to direct hit you

[median steeple]

FUCK I HAVE TO REMAKE OVER 20 LOADOUTS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sullen forge]

so it can whiff and still apply it

[misty nova]

Terrifying Barrage on the enemies

[frosty herald]

plasma gunners ate von's dread

[heady rapids]

payday 2 heavy swat

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-piracy-king-von-piracy-gif-17106264557008169551

[misty nova]

Wait

[sullen forge]

Anyways best Mk for Power Flachion is the IIb lawbringer solely cause the I can't stagger ragers

ez pz

[frosty herald]

i dont want them to nerf plasma gunners

[misty nova]

I wonder if captains will have that as well

[signal spoke]

https://youtu.be/eHCqxLtwy5g?si=3en8qzG80z2IreHo Holy shit, peak is back

[glossy nimbus]

I like that you can put down a horde for a bit with the new bolter

[heady rapids]

i didnt like it at all

felt weird

[frosty herald]

welcome back PT

[placid fiber]

Yes, but, they buffed his to -100% toughness generation

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-hideogame-hideo-kojima-absolute-cinema-gif-10961924528699791089

[heady rapids]

but i dont like bolter overall so alas

[carmine falcon]

SKILL ISSUE

[exotic plaza]

flamer still better for that anyway

[carmine falcon]

bolter is peak

[exotic plaza]

also new bolter just ruin all the bp lol

[glossy nimbus]

bp?

[exotic plaza]

illuminate my beloved

[frosty herald]

robert pattingson will 100% be the physint protagonist

[wet rain]

ratfans, I've just remade my rat build and it seems I can't doublestab with shroudfield anymore... Did they just patch and remove that??

[placid fiber]

how long before dreg maulers, I wonder...

[signal spoke]

PT mention holy shit

[median steeple]

Honestly after playing so much bots my brain has rotted to fight any other faction

[frosty herald]

shroud got changed yeah

[wet rain]

😭

[frosty herald]

seems like you cant activate it during a swing

[placid fiber]

I feel like dreg maulers would literally be the same as vt2 ones >.>

[frosty herald]

itl consume the shroud during it

[wet rain]

I cry

[frozen trench]

Any rocket scientists here with Martydom builds?

[frosty herald]

with how absurdly strong shroudfield is you dont need it

also get the 100% CDR regen on backstab or weakspot hit

[misty nova]

Ask @/exhillious

[wet rain]

I loved that lil tech....

[heady rapids]

slap it on anything

it now has

toughness regen

have fun

[exotic plaza]

.

this is for thammer

[sand trail]

which one of you

[misty nova]

Martyrdom already had no risks back then

Now it's foolproof

Peak fish right there

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ethantran-gif-27257100

[heady rapids]

game is great

[placid fiber]

I didn't realize it was on hit now, I just saw the way they changed it to 100% regen over 2s. That's even easier than invocation to proc wth lol

[heady rapids]

scabs arent just chaff anymore

golden toughness gets shut down by plasma

[exotic plaza]

yes I've been correcting people about this

[heady rapids]

we're going back to vermintide

[frosty herald]

Dregs will get daemons 100%

[exotic plaza]

pious is the best one

[median steeple]

now all we need is plague rat enemies

[heady rapids]

still no blackrat

[placid fiber]

Beast of Dreg Gunner

[heady rapids]

smh

now we need a dreg plasma gunner

[median steeple]

I don't even know what you could count as a stormvermin

[misty nova]

They'll make dregs more numerous

[heady rapids]

thats the thing

[placid fiber]

I'd be more interested in a dreg mauler myself

[heady rapids]

theres nothing in this game

[misty nova]

20 dreg bruisers running at you

[sullen forge]

Atp Maulers with their buffed HP

[heady rapids]

mauler exists

already

so no

[sullen forge]

dgaf

[heady rapids]

wrong on so many levels

[drifting wolf]

no vermintide mauler erasure allowed

[placid fiber]

Rando: 💀
Me:

[heady rapids]

needs more roller skates

[placid fiber]

I actually like how they brought back the mechanic of an instant toughness break source, it's kinda funny

[misty nova]

And 360°

[misty nova]

As a carapace head

Specialist

Carapace specialist

[lament ruin]

70% atk speed makes relic blade feel like a 1h weapon...

[misty nova]

I don't like it

[median steeple]

aight fuck this im too lazy to fix my mods im raw dogging this game

[heady rapids]

is 70% atk speed marty

[misty nova]

Now watch as more carapace specialist show up

[placid fiber]

What's the body?

[misty nova]

I think it's flak

[placid fiber]

It's literally just a mauler with less hp and a plasma gun?

[lament ruin]

30% from marty

2 10% speed nodes

20% from

fotf

[exotic plaza]

https://discord.com/channels/1048312349867646996/1419992462675673170

[heady rapids]

i need to try this out

[heady rapids]

oof

[median steeple]

yeah it's a lot

[heady rapids]

fatshark cracked down on cheats.................

[placid fiber]

Does it realy surprise you, tho?

[misty nova]

Oh ok

Like

[frosty herald]

Safe to asume dodge counter is sorta obsolete

[midnight ermine]

What is the other bar below my stamina

[median steeple]

dodge bar

[misty nova]

2 of the mods that I use broke

3 actually

[placid fiber]

b-but... what about my double dodge bar shenanigans?!

[exotic plaza]

the game dodge counter only show maximum 4 dodge

[misty nova]

Not bad

[exotic plaza]

also it doesn't show negative dodge

[placid fiber]

Honestly I expected there to be more mods broke on that list

[heady rapids]

i like numbered dodge counter more

so

[placid fiber]

oh they slightly nerfed enduring faith lol

40% tdr now

[misty nova]

Uptime, loadout config and Solo play are the only ones that broke for me

[placid fiber]

You don't have numeric ui?

[heady rapids]

i have like 90 mods

scary

[misty nova]

No

[exotic plaza]

I find it harder to read mid game

[median steeple]

holy shit I love building vet I have so many options @sullen forge

[misty nova]

Don't need it

[heady rapids]

but i can play vanilla fine

[exotic plaza]

i prefer the bar

[misty nova]

I don't even know what it does

Although I can assume

[placid fiber]

It makes you into a casual

[sullen forge]

Illusion of choice

[misty nova]

But yeah

[sullen forge]

right side is literally insane

[misty nova]

I don't need it

[sullen forge]

everything else is okay

[misty nova]

[sullen forge]

Outside of Blitz and Aura

moment you get near the keystone section its just right side is the best

[heady rapids]

i might actually finish my mmf and krak penances

now that you dont need to play bardin and kraks arent useless

yessssssssssssss

[sullen forge]

I will state the new Vet melee is very very good

[heady rapids]

helo fatshark
bring loner back
signed
your #1 fan

[acoustic dune]

Hello fat shark
Buff chorus please
Signed the better #1 fan

[placid fiber]

Fatshark: Instructions unclear, every aura is now loner

[acoustic dune]

God could you imagine that

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

[placid fiber]

I like how they made the talent trees allergic to giving toughness now

[acoustic dune]

Chat

[exotic plaza]

you sure about that?

[heady rapids]

zealot toughness gen is trhough the roof rn

its actually insane

[acoustic dune]

What if I beg a beautiful women to take me

While I cry like a fetus

Would that work?

[placid fiber]

I'm talking bonus maximum toughness, not toughness generation

[heady rapids]

they upped the base toughness

in this patch

[stray summit]

What's the buff for a marty stack now? 10%?

[placid fiber]

I know

[heady rapids]

thats a good thing

no more tax

[placid fiber]

I just find it funny is all

Less tax nodes is better, tho, yeah

[acoustic dune]

They what

[placid fiber]

it's a great change, just ammusing to me

[frosty herald]

Im happy that loner is gone

One of the most misunderstood auras that did nothing

[acoustic dune]

By how much?

[placid fiber]

I am not sure this isn't just some dream, yet, and I'm going to wake up to the only aura on zealot being loner

[heady rapids]

i think from 70 to 100

check the patchnotes

[acoustic dune]

What if loner became base kit for zealot

[warped trellis]

still waiting for a good dt update

lawl lelzzz

[acoustic dune]

I am heading home rn pinkie

[placid fiber]

Not gonna happen before 2030

[acoustic dune]

I ate the good update

It was shit

[frosty herald]

Lol no

[acoustic dune]

😔

[frosty herald]

This is the good update

[placid fiber]

What if loner became a base game effect(god no)

[acoustic dune]

What if when you didn't take aura loner is base kit

https://tenor.com/view/goof-penguinz0it-was-just-a-goof-gif-22331811

[gaunt roost]

every class should have built in loner

[acoustic dune]

Real

[heady rapids]

now that they buffed scabs

maybe

bring back the old mauler spawns

[gaunt roost]

what spawns

[heady rapids]

let me show you

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079235834777186406/1103976473620131891/8mb.video-mpH-WyPqmAUw.mp4?ex=68d3b9b6&is=68d26836&hm=376b7edc9acc0116557191adc2b98046f0bcaf461676df3b20a6c0df7c522225&

this is the patch right after they reworked them iirc

[placid fiber]

carapace armored muties when?

[carmine lance]

Mourning the loss of loner (I don’t actually care, I still stick with the team despite playing knife zealot lmao (I just have adhd))

[gaunt roost]

i wish there were more marching squads like that

[placid fiber]

I permanently stopped using loner for my shroudfield builds as soon as they had fixed the 1 +15 toughness node below benediction. After that it was 1 talent point more for benediction and a +15 toughness node <.<

[carmine lance]

I will say I appreciate that there’s some more backstab damage talents

[midnight ermine]

Does disdain work on every hit now?

[carmine lance]

Out of pocket also seems really nice to have

[placid fiber]

I would guess no, but, idk

[heady rapids]

"some more" shroudfield is a literal nuke right now

and you get threat reduction

[glossy nimbus]

Its so good

Never felt better

[carmine lance]

Switch between popping elites with fune revolver and backstabs without having to stop and reload is very nice

[frosty herald]

Plasma gunner counteracts power creep pretty well

He just kills you

[carmine lance]

True…

[median steeple]

zealous aura....

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-grenade-truth-nuke-gif-6248133608324632914

[median steeple]

I love it

[glossy nimbus]

Getting in my slop intake

[sullen forge]

Unironically goated

[gaunt roost]

insanely peak gif

[heady rapids]

patch 13 2

are we back

[placid fiber]

One of the best things I stole from oggy chat, heh

[carmine lance]

Plasma gunner is extremely funny to me because it’s forever going to be tied to a guy I came across in auric maelstrom who for whatever reason had a massive hate boner for ogryn

[midnight ermine]

What is this "new weapon family"

And the new weapon marks

[frosty herald]

The zealous aura is so damn good

[placid fiber]

Our collective copium as a community actually did something, apparently

[median steeple]

Im just quickly putting together slop builds that will work everywhere @sullen forge

no real thought into them

[midnight ermine]

Is it really that good?

[frosty herald]

Im also happy that i can play shroud again

I feel so fast

[frosty herald]

-15% stamina consumption

[heady rapids]

finally the lower tree has some identity

[placid fiber]

15% less stamina cost at least would add up, idk how much tho

[heady rapids]

with ij being more suited for stealth now

[sullen forge]

I mean thats fine

[placid fiber]

ikr? It looks good to me and I haven't even gotten onto darktide yet

[sullen forge]

This is like the Bread and Butter of right side Vet now @median steeple

[placid fiber]

Having identity just looks so cool

[sullen forge]

everything here is insanely fucking good

so you actually have to make sacrifices when not playing WS

[carmine lance]

“I hope the new plasma gunner one shots ogryns and arbites”

Meant to be a reply

[heady rapids]

this but unironically

[placid fiber]

how much hp damage does the plasma gunner do if you don't have toughness?

[carmine lance]

To this lol

[frosty herald]

It already chunks through gold toughness

[heady rapids]

every time i see plasma gunner discourse from ogryn/arbites player

they're talking about how they'll just block it

[frosty herald]

Lol

[carmine lance]

I don’t mind it being genuinely dangerous

[frosty herald]

I wonder how theyre blocking a horde of plasma

[median steeple]

ye that's what I put on my WS build

just doing psyker now

[midnight ermine]

Ogryn and arbites talent trees got a "touch up"?

[median steeple]

and making bomb

[placid fiber]

It was the thing hav40 needed

[midnight ermine]

Whats this "touch up"

[heady rapids]

small nerfs

nothing interesting

ogryn got a paul rework

[sullen forge]

Tweaks basically

[midnight ermine]

Sounds reasonable

[carmine lance]

I just find it really funny that guy I came across got like, super schitzo about the ogryn hate

[sullen forge]

insanely busted things being brought down to reasonable takes

[carmine lance]

To the point he was throwing to type shit about ogryn

[placid fiber]

they did at least buff the stamina regen rate on oggy

[sullen forge]

Paul basically is just a hand held stagger nuke when special is used but goes on a lengthy CD

[heady rapids]

kill 7 billion people

[carmine lance]

Kill 6 billion demons…

[heady rapids]

rumbler still alive and well

SADLY

[carmine lance]

Ngl I just use a funny ogryn speed build

Or the pickaxe

The thrust one tap feels too good

[placid fiber]

Okay, now what?

[long oasis]

im still alive

[midnight ermine]

Can't wait to try the power falchion

[placid fiber]

I had to leave some people alive, otherwise I would be chatting with myself

[long oasis]

how could you do this to me

[placid fiber]

Selfish greed on my part

[long oasis]

get some monkeys to type on keyboards

[carmine lance]

I am simply built different, I would survive

[placid fiber]

At least they would play better than randos, in darktide...

[misty nova]

Limbsplitter
Thrust
Crunch
Branx