#zealot-class

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misty nova
craggy jackal
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We got master yi in deadlock too except she can shoot bombs and does 160 damage level 1

visual stream
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The second part is already master yi

desert vessel
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What are perks and blessings for vraks iag

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Flakiac and dumdum deathspitter?

hexed igloo
copper hawk
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LMFAO

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@hard nexus

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me asf

plush estuary
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@pliant ice

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"fuck this ogryn"

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"YEET!"

desert vessel
misty nova
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Dumdum Deathspitter
Dumdum Raking Fire

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Flak Maniacs or Flak Unyielding

desert vessel
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Cool

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Ty

elder maple
agile plaza
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Was thinking about trying the hand axe out, which mark is the best?

plush estuary
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Try out 7

median steeple
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@hard nexus

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hard nexus
gaunt roost
stone fern
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i loved and hated them so much

misty nova
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I miss Swain

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And then FS went and added a game mode that goes up to 40 minutes on average

gaunt roost
misty nova
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I'm so sorry for you

hard goblet
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Can someone help me with the shocking stuff penance? Been tryin for ages but can't seem to get a large enough group

stray summit
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Ironhelm Thunder Hammer Idea
Tapping special after using special uses high stagger pommel tap stab attack followed by overhead heavies

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But going into heavy immediately still does the horizontal heavy

plush estuary
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what do you think this means?

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ah

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its bumbler

hard goblet
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Do I have to throw stuns ffor Shocking Stuff or can someone else throw them?

stray summit
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probably not enough people running them to count on that happening

plush estuary
lunar fable
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watched an arbitrator get downed by a single rager

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rustic scarab
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So I just got into trying to play with Thunder Hammer

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which pattern is considered better

misty nova
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Crucis

plush estuary
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speaking of hammer

misty nova
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First target dump

lunar fable
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but first target only affects the first guy you hit in the match

rustic scarab
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which blessings are considered the best for Heavy Eviscerator

plush estuary
ripe quest
hexed igloo
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Iirc I use rampage with wrath and savage sweep

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Don't play havoc tho so not optimized in any way

agile plaza
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Rashad for combat axe yea?

misty nova
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Ye

dull girder
# plush estuary

Is this from a website? im in need of a list of blessings that go well for several weapons

median steeple
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that's from the guide pinned in this chat

plush estuary
full nebula
lunar fable
north sedge
scenic drift
# north sedge

Knife users I meet are usually the type that are playing rusher arbites now. kappapeek

acoustic dune
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Smh

misty nova
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Fear Magneto 🗣️

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🟣
👆

acoustic dune
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Chat what does this mea

ripe quest
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The real crime is that it isn't efficient pen dumping

opal girder
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Is martyrdom that good? Seems like losing all health for a damage buff is a pain to manage

quick mountain
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does matyrdom crusher match up to arbites crusher or does arbites really just use that weapon better than zealot?

ripe quest
# opal girder Is martyrdom that good? Seems like losing all health for a damage buff is a pain...

It's great for melee. However there are a couple notes:

  • It isn't like Vermintide where you can pretend you have full health at full stacks
  • In Darktide it's most easily used as a comeback mechanic of sorts, where you hit harder the worse of a state you're in
  • Some builds do not need all stacks of Martyrdom to hit breakpoints, so this can either be used to only get a certain number of stacks or alternatively run some Toughness curios.
ripe quest
quick mountain
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lmfao

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should i just call it a day and run DS to fully take advantage KEKW_ogryn

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my fave zealot weapons are like rb, combaxe, tac axe, and crusher, 3/4 of those allegedly do better on arby

ripe quest
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Taxe is prob better on Zealot just due to the high crit chance available and Duelist on a finesse weapon. Caxe maybe but would need to look at the exact numbers, it can kinda get a lot out of crits.

quick mountain
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gotcha

stable cradle
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What are the preferred blessings for crusher on the zealot since we don't have insta stagger like arbites?

quick mountain
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i was chattin abt it with cyber earlier and i know zealot's entire class fantasy is to be the aggressive one, but i cant help but feel arbites just kinda does that too and better on the weapons i like

ripe quest
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Skullcrusher + Slaughterer/Trauma/Hammerblow. Trauma extends stagger durations and Slaughterer is just more damage.

quick mountain
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so now the only things thatll get me to return to zealot's like, RB, thunder hammer, and heavy sword

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and ig tac axe

broken turret
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HARK YE AND PRAISE KINDRED

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DOESNAE KILL NOTHING TOO BAD

stable cradle
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ah ty I was leaning to either hammerblow or slaughterer

broken turret
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AYE KINDRED

stable cradle
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oh you're very intense about that

broken turret
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IN THE NAME OF THE GOOOOOOOOOD EMPEROR

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SCUNNERS ALL

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LIKELY BETTER CRUSHERS OUT THERE THAN THE ONE I POSTED BUT IT WORKS FOR ME

gaunt roost
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the best personality in the game

quick mountain
ripe quest
# quick mountain i was chattin abt it with cyber earlier and i know zealot's entire class fantasy...

Arbites is powercreep central and does a lot of roles with good results. Notable things are you can kinda just walk into a lot of encounters and just Ogryn-brain for a bit and walk out unscathed due to DR. However in my personal experience I find that I can consistently out-damage Arbites players in melee on Zealot and in ranged elite/special clear on Veteran, just generally the Arbites will do more total damage due to having some high power generalist builds available (also dog sometimes).

stable cradle
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Eh im more partial to bigoted grandma

misty nova
acoustic dune
quick mountain
misty nova
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Zealot still outfinessing everything

quick mountain
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i just thought with all those damn damage nodes on the arby tree it seems to perform similarly enough with a lot less work

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....then comparing crusher on arby to zealot made me full doomer LMAO

pale spindle
quick mountain
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higui youre not exactly an unbiased source, #1 anti-arby agitprop and you wont even buy it xP

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all due respect ofc

misty nova
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Yeah and still

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Zealot outfinesses and outdogdes Arby's

quick mountain
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i can definitely see outdodges with the dodge distance (especially IJ and shit)

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outfinesse, sure

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damage, not quite

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at least on the arby maul/crusher/shock maul trifecta

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you could argue that's like skullcrusher abuse or something but 🤷

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they def kill things more than i'd been lead to believe ig is what i'm getting at

acoustic dune
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It can indefinitely just stand its ground

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Also having a better until death in the form of true grit

plush estuary
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I think I disagree with grit being better then until death

acoustic dune
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Surviving 3 1shot is ceazy

plush estuary
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Or are you saying until death by itself and not holy Rev as well

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Cause until and Rev is insane

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You gain hp

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For free

acoustic dune
oak gazelle
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Blessings for flamer on crit build?

quick mountain
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yeah i think until death is definitely still amazing and holds its own against arbites' everything

acoustic dune
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True grit seem more for short term then until death and holy rev for long term

acoustic dune
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Check pin

quick mountain
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anyone actually prefer penetrating flame to overpressure btw?

misty nova
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Not really

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Pen Flames will only shine against carapace

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Which is whatever

quick mountain
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yeah i figured

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contemplating getting another flamer to pair with heavy sword and see if it makes dealing with crushers easier but then i'd lose out on boltgun waaa

plush estuary
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Use the Hsword

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Against the cara

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Special heavy loop

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Use fury for the rending

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Hsword havoc 40

quick mountain
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i only have so much fotf stacks waaa

misty nova
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What? You're telling me to use the ability that grants 100% rending?!?!?

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Absurd

quick mountain
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ive done that on a HISTG auric tho

misty nova
acoustic dune
quick mountain
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it was a....peculiar experience

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me and the other zealot got split up

misty nova
quick mountain
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i take a while to get rid of the 2 crushers on my bc i ran out of FOTF

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i go back, surely thinking the other zealot has beaten the one crusher theyre dealing with

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it's still alive

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the other zealot is on thunder hammer

acoustic dune
quick mountain
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mfw shrek_stare

acoustic dune
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What I never noticed

lunar fable
misty nova
acoustic dune
ripe quest
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Back in the day FotF was way funnier and just set Carapace to Flak ADMs and Flak to Unarmored.

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Classic

plush estuary
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When a las pistol could kill like 5 crushers with 2 fury

misty nova
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Bring back gunning down crushers

broken turret
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woe, Helbore IV/Plasma Gun upon ye

misty nova
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Plasma is not a good weapon against carapace

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4 shots ain't worth it

broken turret
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woe, Helbore IV upon ye

compact lichen
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knocking em over is still good thumbsup_ogryn

broken turret
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does this penance^

count enemies that are stunned with regular weaponry? or does it have to be the st*n grenades

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compact lichen
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isn't it specifically the stun grenade?

broken turret
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i have to use the st*n grenades?

compact lichen
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oh, I guess the arbites shield now as well

broken turret
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eugh

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KINDRED

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MY PANTS FELL AFF

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I DIDNAE HAVE PANTS KINDRED

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I SAW MY DELICATES

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and my game crashed

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i don't think the game wanted me to see the Fanatic Zealot's Mourningstar grippers

hollow rose
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anyone know any good chorus builds?

acoustic dune
broken turret
acoustic dune
broken turret
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IF THE GOOOOOOD EMPEROR WANTED ME TO WEAR UNDERGARMENTS HE WOULD HAVE GIFTED THEM TO ME

acoustic dune
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I saw it in your dream

hollow rose
acoustic dune
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The fucking loincloth is on the shrine you crudely made

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It's right there

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You gonna wear the loincloth now garfield?

void bison
plush estuary
acoustic dune
acoustic dune
plush estuary
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You can 1 shot crushers with knife

acoustic dune
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I remenber smth about change on that

plush estuary
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Hand cannon surgical

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Nothing that I can remember

acoustic dune
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Mmh

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Must be a dream

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Or was it that it take blessing of your melee weapon

tame sluice
misty nova
scenic drift
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I'd love to give 30% dmg steroid to team on every chorus

ivory marlin
tame sluice
tame sluice
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but like

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by pingin enemies

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instead of doing nothing for 5 whole seconds

scenic drift
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why not both? smileycalgar

misty nova
broken turret
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IN TRE GOOOOOD EMPEROR'S NAME

acoustic dune
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Chat how does my zealot look

misty nova
broken turret
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i have discovered a rather fun zealot build

acoustic dune
tame sluice
tame sluice
broken turret
acoustic dune
broken turret
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it's awful good fun

acoustic dune
broken turret
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i'm using it for my immolation grenade penance

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i'll shift around for st*n nades soon after, but won't be jazzed about having to use them nades

acoustic dune
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Chat i want to kidnaps someone and draw them

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What do I do

mighty root
broken turret
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kills

mighty root
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yeah its ds

broken turret
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i just got recommended it by a dude name QIangIQ

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and every build i've used from him has been amazing in some way shape or form

mighty root
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you dont need the nodes for book but they are nice

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id run this

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still hate book

stable cradle
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I'm wondering how useful is perfect strike on evis if im running martyrdom? Is shred enough to make it worth?

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Or is just sticking with rampage for more damage the best way to go?

misty nova
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You can build around 50% chance

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Then

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You either CRIT or don't

stable cradle
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damn i wish the emperor taught me how to do math

void bison
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look at my little guy

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hexed igloo
plush estuary
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marty in gas is not a good idea

broken turret
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decidedly not

plush estuary
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Marty mk4 taxe

misty mason
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Does TWBS prevent stagger from guard break?

plush estuary
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no

misty mason
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boo

copper hawk
sullen forge
copper hawk
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cannot out cat me

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i know all the trickz

lunar fable
marble pewter
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for honor in 2025 ...

lunar fable
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I quit for honor 7 years ago

desert vessel
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Which perks and blessings on crusher

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I'm assuming blessings are thunderous and skullcrusher?

plush estuary
twin wagon
harsh jackal
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what does relic blade activation actually do? does it give Rending or just more damage and cleave?

desert vessel
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Mk2 is the better laspistol right

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And it dumps mob?

acoustic dune
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Chat

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How's my arbities dog

lean fern
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he looks too realistic

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i would try to pet him

acoustic dune
lean fern
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he is ink on paper

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my hand would strike its flat surface and my world would shatter

frosty herald
copper hawk
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Like the second the clip ended she left the lobby

desert vessel
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What perks and blessings for zarona revolver

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And also for mk2 laspistol

copper hawk
frosty herald
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Lole

frosty herald
jagged cradle
tawny harbor
drifting wolf
haughty horizon
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So um... dipping my toes into Heresy, done a few okay-ish rounds, felt pretty good with charge+greatsword/2h chainsword and a combat shotgun, and the fury tree to the left

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Do forgive me if I sound daft though, but perhaps it's worth asking anyway

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What to really look out for in Heresy or above?

marble pewter
craggy jackal
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You can kinda get away with anything you feel like running in auric and below

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So keep doing what you’re doing

marble pewter
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heresy is kind of like, the elo hell of this game

mild sparrow
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Not really

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Plenty of struggling players in damnation these days

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Because everyone keeps saying to skip heresy staregryn

marble pewter
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u cant skip heresy..

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not anymore ,,

mild sparrow
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And they are not ready

marble pewter
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forced to win like what,

haughty horizon
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The "actually normal" difficulty on top of Malice "normal but actually easy" difficulty, no?

marble pewter
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7 heresy rounds before being able to access damnation ?

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and u lose progress whenever u fail?

misty nova
craggy jackal
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Idk if there is a “normal” difficulty on darktide

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You just play what you feel comfortable with

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The only really tip is that you lose a wound starting at heresy, so you can go down one less time

haughty horizon
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Aye

misty nova
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Watch out for those

haughty horizon
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I mean, I'm starting to get it I think?

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30+ dudes coming at you and you just go, "chop"

mild sparrow
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Learning how to deal with Rager packs too

haughty horizon
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And then coming out the other end of it, having not lost a bit of HP

mild sparrow
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They just keep getting bigger in the higher diffs lol

haughty horizon
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While others just go "how the fuck"

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Sure Ogryns can do better, but... greatswords

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Gonna He-Man this shit

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If it's bigger crowds in Damnation, then yeah, I wanna be there

craggy jackal
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Look for the high intensity modifier for big crowds

marble pewter
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the hordes in the lower difficulties are kinda pitiful usually ..

thorny apex
scenic drift
misty nova
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Parryslop is crazy

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Specially when dark souls exists

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No, that's a weak bait

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Oooh I know

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Parryslop is crazy specially when Lies of P exists

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Is it still weak?
I could try Sekiro

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ahem

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Parryslop.....

scenic drift
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qteslop

misty nova
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This does remind me to return to my dex build or whatever the equivalent on Lies of P though

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Do you even parry on Wukong?

sturdy cypress
carmine falcon
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there's one ability that functions like a parry

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called rock solid

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u turn into a rock and block the attack but some attacks makes enimies stagger

fervent field
carmine falcon
fervent field
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Also stop button ability

carmine falcon
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wukong is at it's most fun when u use everything in a fight

fervent field
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And don't forget best of them all THE RING OF FIRE

carmine falcon
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your abilities, your unique skills from armor sets, transformations

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ect

fervent field
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Ye

carmine falcon
fervent field
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It was sarcasm

carmine falcon
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i always built for hyper aggro gigaxi

fervent field
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But ye

carmine falcon
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oh lmao

fervent field
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Never used that

hard nexus
craggy jackal
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nvm i now understand why people like the mk 7 hs

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i still think 9 looks cooler but 7 is pretty enough to be usable

mild sparrow
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People like the 7?

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That was always the weird one lol

craggy jackal
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yeah its the horizontal ish heavy 1

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its technically a strikedown but you take brutal momentum so like

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its pretty good into horde

misty nova
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It's alright

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You can basically deal full damage to 5 targets then it massively drops off

ripe quest
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VI and VII are interchangeable on preference (one of the preferences is objectively wrong though), IX is just if you want the good cleave distribution heavies in addition to DB.

craggy jackal
craggy jackal
vast basin
ripe quest
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Because of this the IX's H2 and H3 would be super notable if the weapon didn't have Deathblow. Unfortunately having high first and second target damage on good cleave & deathblow means the "strikedown" heavies can pretty easily kill 5 enemies per swing.

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Though the H2 and H3 on the IX are still better iirc into crowds.

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Like fodder and bruisers n whatnot.

mighty root
misty nova
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I'm just more specific because of certain things

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Like damage caps

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Or heavy sword having funny cleave damage distribution

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But I certainly have a taste for high cleave

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Unstoppable Force cleaver hitting for 128 targets

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Or Unstoppable Force Sweep Cleaver hitting for ~118 cleave

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You can tickle 10 crushers at once

acoustic dune
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Chat

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Why does speed

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Have pee in it

visual stream
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What

misty nova
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Because you can pee fast

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Duh

visual stream
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???

quick mountain
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are you supposed to loop the slide/sprint stab on relic blade against heavy targets or is it more something you initiate with then use when youre already in a dodge slide (like from avoiding an overhead)

potent gate
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Knife cancel stab 360

carmine falcon
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some people do a camera sprint cancel something trick and abuse triggering it

stray summit
misty nova
median steeple
copper hawk
median steeple
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hi cica

hard nexus
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wish it was only 7 minutes though lol

gaunt roost
copper hawk
hushed knoll
visual stream
sullen forge
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Opposing Horse

visual stream
plush estuary
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Why is that horde game so popular recently

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Is it new?

stray summit
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which horde game

gaunt roost
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what agame

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there are a lot

plush estuary
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Horse

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Game

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Horse girls

stray summit
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oh yeha I have no idea

gaunt roost
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oh

stray summit
plush estuary
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Recently popped up and now it's everywhere I look

stray summit
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thats the internet ig

gaunt roost
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the game got a western release recently apparently

plush estuary
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I love horse girls but was kinda sudden

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I see

craggy jackal
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Northernlion started streaming it

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Basically

sullen forge
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Rest is history

plush estuary
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Gale, look at this space Marine

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The highlighter yellow

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@copper hawk @carmine falcon I can play in like 2 hours, maybe less

hard nexus
copper hawk
sullen forge
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Reminding me I should play again

signal spoke
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wtf happened for this game storage to be larger all of sudden staregryn

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plush estuary
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Jesus

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Maybe it's the sex update

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They did say they were releasing it soon

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Bug romance time

carmine falcon
median steeple
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@sullen forge

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I'M FREE FROM MID 30 HELL

north sedge
hushed knoll
north sedge
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No it isn't

sullen forge
median steeple
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Randoms

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2 oggs and 2 arbs so it wasn't too bad but rituals sucks

sullen forge
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Rituals and bad in the same sentence

median steeple
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They're boring

sullen forge
median steeple
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gnope not a single one popped I just hate daemonhosts so much

north sedge
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Rituals is fine until one activates fast while you're in a fucking elevator 8 miles away

coral smelt
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what is the meta blessings on relic blade?

placid fiber
sullen forge
median steeple
sullen forge
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Unlike me who is super good

gaunt roost
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does havoc difficulty go up every rating or only each 10

misty nova
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Basically every 10 until it reaches Damnation at 21+

acoustic dune
visual stream
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this makes sense when you consider

visual stream
gaunt roost
lunar fable
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i haven't played havoc in ages

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i stopped after i hit 40

misty nova
sullen forge
quick mountain
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i have no brain cells to think of this, which zealot weapons tend to perform better/worse on certain havoc modifier combinations? like purple/red or purple/orange

sullen forge
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Half life deercay

marble pewter
copper hawk
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Adeerable

copper hawk
plush estuary
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300 calories

marble pewter
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pointless creatures

plush estuary
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I love scams

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so funny

lunar fable
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POGGI VBUCKS

sullen forge
plush estuary
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helmetless crusher and headless mauler

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scary

gaunt roost
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wow the crushers actually have rendered heads?

plush estuary
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yes

gaunt roost
stable cradle
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or krieg

dim tusk
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Hi Zelots. I have a question for you all. I'm starting to get closer to Havoc 40 (33 atm) and running a standard DS/Bolter/Yellow Health Slut build. I'm constantly falling off on the damage part of the scoreboard. It feels like a busted weapon like DS should keep me at least in the middle of the pack, but I'm way below my fellow players. I'm starting to think I'm playing either too defensively, not poking things the right way or just plain suck. What's your experience with this setup?

plush estuary
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book ruins your dps since you arent attacking and you arent using fury

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you are not going to be doing that much damage to if you used fury

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but most players cant beat havoc without gold toughness

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so they demand people to run book

green yacht
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just hit them harder

pale spindle
plush estuary
pale spindle
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People refuse to dodge and use cover so they expect you to crux for them

sullen forge
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Could just avoid getting shot at also

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Golden toughness isn’t needed

pale spindle
quick mountain
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zealot damage can also be lower depending on how the team's playing tho right? i.e. arbys shotgunning chaff + dog doing dog things, inferno staff psyker, rumbler oggy

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like it's not necessarily an indicator of doing bad

plush estuary
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ehhh

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that'd be true for every class

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but I see your point

pale spindle
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Nah you're trash for using book nuff said 😈

thick radish
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my zealot build is single target crusher with dash, and I noticed im going down a lot/losing HP fast even with curios and a more defensive playstyle

Any builds that will help me not have glass bones and paper skin?

quick mountain
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yeah like, i noticed being low on the damage front on RB until we actually got into an engagement range where we had to melee and the team wasnt just ranging everything

pale spindle
quick mountain
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i do wanna transition to playing FOTF more than book on havoc though

plush estuary
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max DR build

quick mountain
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book is boring and makes me feel like i should just

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play vet and do shout

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instead of having to pulse 5 times

plush estuary
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debatably zealots strongest build

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easily best for havoc

thick radish
quick mountain
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hm, i should try piety crusher

pale spindle
quick mountain
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but then again nothing zealot does on crusher can outdo arbites with it KEKW_ogryn

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so i'll stick to RB

pale spindle
plush estuary
thick radish
quick mountain
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wait what

thick radish
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my build was already similar

signal spoke
quick mountain
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should i just be using stalwart BP on zealot for havoc until i get good enough to run IJ/martyrdom or something?

signal spoke
plush estuary
#

parasites cause helemets to be removed

signal spoke
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Thats funny

thick radish
#

Thoughts on my Crusher?

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plush estuary
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sometimes makes headless enemies

signal spoke
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Should be a thing tbh

plush estuary
broken turret
#

i think a helmet-less crusher is scarier than an actual crusher

signal spoke
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Unhelmet crushers or the armored enemies losing their helmets with how bonks they receive

thick radish
#

alternatively I have a Relic Blade

image.png
#

got no idea how this goober works

broken turret
signal spoke
#

Dreg Crusher

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Hear me on this

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And he is bald pogryn

craggy jackal
#

Your relic blade has a bit of a ways to go

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Starting with getting a different one

thick radish
#

how so

pale spindle
craggy jackal
#

Every other stat directly affects damage

pale spindle
#

I'm wondering, is relic better than DS now with the new havoc modifiers?

stone fern
#

no

thick radish
solar gorge
#

If only I could live in Australia

thick radish
#

thanks

solar gorge
#

Life would be so much better

thick radish
#

Also, a request, if you use the reply feature turn ping on

craggy jackal
#

Will note

pale spindle
solar gorge
#

Gaming in OCE is just better

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I love europe but they can't be beat

pale spindle
#

Why no Indonesia or Figi or NZ?

solar gorge
#

Queenslanda

thick radish
#

alright

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took me like

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20-30

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purchases

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BUT

pale spindle
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Incredible

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Truly impeccable

thick radish
#

now i just have to be VERY careful to scrap all of them except that one

pale spindle
void bison
#

Orcas are incrediblr and impeccabslepe

young laurel
pale spindle
plush estuary
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so it cant be scarped

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scraped

thick radish
#

look how many

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Should I just.

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consecrate the mf to max or wait a bit

craggy jackal
#

What stops you from consecrating it now

plush estuary
solar gorge
#

It's lonely up there in rural Arkansas

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can you blame a guy

thick radish
#

alright

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time to grind masteries

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!!

plush estuary
real sonnet
#

Perks on DS?

real sonnet
plush estuary
#

yes

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but its worse then fury

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by far

real sonnet
#

The main issue is that people wait for all 7 pulses for some reason in sitauons they shouldn't

real sonnet
#

The talent that gives you a crit + attack speed is gonna end up with more damage overall than the talent that prevents you from using weapons xddd

plush estuary
#

yes

real sonnet
#

Yet it's funny

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I still use book and I still end up either 1st or 2nd top dmg

plush estuary
#

sme

real sonnet
#

I really just have a feeling that

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People don't hit headshots with DS

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That's my biggest suspicion

plush estuary
#

average book user

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I love that sound affect

thick radish
plush estuary
#

then I would recommend learning the game more, keep playing. learn sound queues and when to dodge enemies attacks

thick radish
#

i might just rework my curios again

plush estuary
#

go for it

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toughness always helps with survivability

real sonnet
pale spindle
dim tusk
real sonnet
pale spindle
thick radish
#

oh my curios are fine

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thick radish
#

im used to inf toughness oggy

real sonnet
#

Especially on Zealot

pale spindle
thick radish
#

to me at least

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should I change them?

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this is how they've always been

pale spindle
#

Why do you have wounds?

real sonnet
#

The issue with Thrust is that it kinda fucks your boss DPS

thick radish
#

i like having three wounds...?

pale spindle
real sonnet
plush estuary
#

wounds makes you squishy

oak gazelle
#

What's the best tax?

plush estuary
#

7

pale spindle
#

Wounds is the most useless stat in the game unless you are going wound Zealot

And that is for the damage

thick radish
#

fine what do i replace it with

north sedge
#

Toughness

pale spindle
#

Tbh you should have as much toughness as you possibly can

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I don't even take HP anymore on any class 🤷🏻‍♂️

Not even on the perks

real sonnet
pale spindle
#

But anything but wounds is better

oak gazelle
#

So running a crit build, what the best gun to pair it with?

plush estuary
#

any

real sonnet
pale spindle
dim tusk
real sonnet
#

Tacaxe, knife, duelling sword

oak gazelle
#

Best dueling sword mark?

pale spindle
pale spindle
#

This guy lives rent free in my head ever since he made that cursed recon build

real sonnet
thick radish
#

Alright
I have:
3x +5% HP
3x +4% Combat Ability Regen
2x +5% Toughness
1x +30% Toughness Regen Speed

1x +13% Toughness
1x +18% Max HP
1x +15% Toughness

oak gazelle
#

The crit I'm running is blazing piety, fyi

thick radish
#

for my curios.

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This better?

pale spindle
real sonnet
#

Toughness regen speed is useless

thick radish
#

wounds is gone

pale spindle
#

Wait why do you have Regen?

real sonnet
#

+5% hp is kind of a waste

pale spindle
#

Regen is also useless, especially on Zealot

craggy jackal
#

You don’t want regen speed

thick radish
#

god fgucking damnit
every thing i choose is useless. I'll replace with 5% toughness

craggy jackal
#

It’s more nuanced, but regen is coherency regen

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Which generally isn’t active in combat

real sonnet
craggy jackal
#

When you need it

pale spindle
thick radish
#

Alright
I have:
3x +5% HP
3x +4% Combat Ability Regen
3x +5% Toughness

1x +13% Toughness
1x +18% Max HP
1x +15% Toughness

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There.

real sonnet
#

Combat ability, toughness, stam regen

Add 1-2 gunner resistance if you're desperate

craggy jackal
#

Yeah that’s fine

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Keep in mind this user is playing damnation

pale spindle
#

I think gunner resist is better over HP

But that looks fine

thick radish
#

i only play Auric with oggy

real sonnet
#

oggy loves gunner resistance

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Cuz he big and fat

sterile basalt
thick radish
pale spindle
#

I think CDR on Zealot is also overkill because you have such insane reduction

thick radish
#

i am fine with what I have

sterile basalt
oak gazelle
#

What's the best gun for non crit?

real sonnet
thick radish
pale spindle
obsidian prairie
#

Have you completed Rotten Armor?

visual stream
sterile basalt
#

Oh wait that was a diff guy

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Nvm

pale spindle
visual stream
#

Completely airballing those numbers because it was a while ago

obsidian prairie
#

There’s like 4K diamantine bound up in it

visual stream
#

But it was such an insignificant difference

sterile basalt
real sonnet
visual stream
#

Book is 45s base no?

sterile basalt
real sonnet
pale spindle
#

I also think CDR is overkill on Vet because if you actually do your job and kill specialists you will get your ability back in no time 💀

real sonnet
#

Cuz what else could I use

dim tusk
plush estuary
#

precog + ripsote/uncanny

real sonnet
plush estuary
#

honestly for havoc

pale spindle
#

You don't take precog with book, so I would take uncanny

plush estuary
#

riposte + precog/uncanny

real sonnet
sterile basalt
# real sonnet 60s to 52s with book is goode

It’s not because IoD works differently

IoD is essentially x33% cooldown and the -% reduction applies afterwards so u get 60 x0.33 = 19.8s then that 19.8 x0.88 = 17.424s

Minuscule difference

real sonnet
#

Uncanny + relentless

EVERYONE here is gonna freak out but you gotta trust me on this one...

pale spindle
#

Where my agile gang at? 😈

real sonnet
#

Relentless fucks bosses hard giving you so so so much more dmg

lunar fable
#

i don't use ds at all

sterile basalt
#

Relentless is only ever relevant for fighting bosses but it is debatably the best option for that

pale spindle
sterile basalt
#

It just sucks astronomical ass in everything else

real sonnet
#

kill crusher in 3-5 hits
1 shot the gunner that Will take +50% dmg

sterile basalt
real sonnet
pale spindle
real sonnet
sterile basalt
lunar fable
sterile basalt
#

It’s just, not that great outside of boss applications

real sonnet
#

xdddd

sterile basalt
#

And when IoD is taken, CDR on curio for zealot is pretty meh

real sonnet
#

Mhm, I still think it's good to have

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I have cdr on curio, IoD AND backstab cdr so

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I'm the book man

sterile basalt
#

IoD is the 2nd strongest CDR talent in the game (and it’s only because psykinetic’s aura is teamwide)

plush estuary
#

@copper hawk

sterile basalt
#

If psykinetic’s aura wasn’t teamwide then IoD easy best

potent gate
plush estuary
#

step warrior is stuck

pale spindle
real sonnet
sterile basalt
#

So EO x150% cooldown rate

copper hawk
sterile basalt
#

Which reduces BTL cd from 20s to ~13.3s

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Then -5s from BTL subnode

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For 8.3s

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Granted I don’t think it’s like

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Needed that often?

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I don’t run subnodes for BTL

real sonnet
pale spindle
real sonnet
#

Those are like mega anti synergy

sterile basalt
#

After uncanny

pale spindle
real sonnet
#

Feels like overkill to bump that to 75%

#

I'd rather deal +50% dmg to bosses 8)

sterile basalt
#

Scourge stacking isn’t that consistent without FotF tbh

#

And DS’s crit modifiers are super high

real sonnet
#

I run bolter with bleed

sterile basalt
#

The mental gymnastics here is crazy

real sonnet
#

Do I need crit right now? Deploy bolter, throw knife, back to DS

real sonnet
#

I PROMISE

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But it's what is giving me the biggest numbers...

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Like I just book a boss, magdump, destroy with DS as I get more crits because the boss was bleeding

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Shazam

#

It's so fucking weird but it works

#

I always end up top boss dmg with this, and either 1st or 2nd top dmg overall

#

All that while still using book

sterile basalt
real sonnet
sterile basalt
#

As long as u have fun ig

real sonnet
#

5% base, +5% crit from perk, +15% from fury

#

That's already 25, eventually you'll hit a crit once and get the ball going easily

real sonnet
sterile basalt
#

Damage perks are just better

real sonnet
#

Unyielding is a must

obsidian prairie
#

Crit perk only works on like 3 weapons

sterile basalt
real sonnet
sterile basalt
#

Or flak even

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lol

real sonnet
#

Flak is kinda bad for havoc

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On DS

plush estuary
#

whuh

real sonnet
#

Carapace maybe but I'd rather have stuff that gets the crit ball going faster

plush estuary
real sonnet
#

If I was using charge ofc I'd use +cara but

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On book +cara is not as good as the crit chance imo

#

Without it I'd have a 20% chance instead of 25%

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If piety is active ofc

sterile basalt
real sonnet
#

And so is 25 on carapace in Havoc, rarely will change breakpoints weh

sterile basalt
#

Crusher 3 tap

real sonnet
#

Fotf or book?

sterile basalt
#

Chorus

#

With carapace it’s like 1530 smth per weakspot hit at uncanny max stack

#

With duellist active u can pretty easily reach 3 tap

real sonnet
#

I think you could reach that without +cara if you have duellist

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I'll check it out soon

sterile basalt
#

Also twins’ heads should be carapace

real sonnet
#

Twins is cara yea

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But I already covered that with relentless

#

Kinda overkill

sterile basalt
#

U wanted bigger number

#

Here’s bigger number

real sonnet
#

Only against twin...

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Cuz the other two die as quickly without it

gaunt roost
#

does anyone go martyrdom in havoc

plush estuary
#

me

real sonnet
#

I've seen a few

sterile basalt
spare crescent
#

Pox gas 😔

ripe quest
# sterile basalt Riposte is best generalist

Going from 55% to 75% crit chance yields a lower average damage increase than just having Precog up for plain weakspots. Especially with DS you don't need a lot of crit to keep Enduring Faith and IoD up either.

ripe quest
misty nova
#

Another Martyrdom w

gaunt roost
#

until rager

misty nova
#

?
You mean the guy that constantly procs your Duelist?

#

Yeah he's funny

gaunt roost
#

the one that does actual chip damage

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maybe i’m just bad idk

visual stream
#

One where you back dodge and he flails like an ADHDoid on 8 billion mg of caffeine and ignores dodges

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And another where he kindly suggests that you please dodge his attacks while he gives you lots of time to do it

plush estuary
#

carnifex had places to be

frosty herald
misty nova
#

"This muhfuh can roll, I gotta get out of here"

plush estuary
#

I'm not even in a mission

#

they exploded the mourningstar

tame sluice
#

book is mega anti synergy with all of the good parts of zealot's skill tree

misty nova
#

Let's go home

ripe quest
#

Half-convinced that if EC gave crit chance people would use it over FotF lol

plush estuary
placid fiber
# plush estuary

Hey, Ainz, did you know the arbiter can 1 mag a damnation plague ogryn with an autopistol(It requires a ton of setup, but, I honestly didn't even expect it to do half the plague ogryn's hp before I started seeing the damage roll)

gray ice
#

Give dclaw 7 push atk armor pen plskthx

plush estuary
plush estuary
placid fiber
plush estuary
#

+3 wounds

placid fiber
# plush estuary

I predict either an instant death and rage quit or 10-20 downs(if not double that)

plush estuary
#

havoc 40 ready

#

He didnt accept

#

😔

placid fiber
#

What class were they anyway?

plush estuary
#

vet

#

found another vet

placid fiber
#

Wow, it's really bad when the wound vet says no :\

plush estuary
#

280 revolver

stone fern
#

@plush estuary what is even doable in ts situation?
whats even doable in this situation
i have brauto/shock for penances

#

after 5 minutes i gave up and killed myself

plush estuary
#

shoot dh

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use elevation or boxes to kite

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dog bomb to stagger dh in dire spots

#

save stam

stone fern
#

i tried dog bomb but it wouldnt hook it long enough

#

🚬 going back to bolter after i finished the penance at least

misty nova
#

People don't even use Infectious Zeal

#

I say that knowing very well that 10% ain't it chief

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I also say that as the Muhfuh running infectious zeal

ripe quest
#

Ah wait, IZ is left branch. Thinking of Righteous Warrior.

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IZ is for teammates and therefore bad is the addendum to that.

#

low stat changes for others means they don't build around it. So on average IZ is only giving others like a 4% increase to damage assuming it's a finesse weapon.

#

If IZ gave like, 25% it'd be pretty good. Alas BP should be completely reworked

hard nexus
#

EC isnt really that good

#

moving it to crit would make it worse

#

you dont really ever need 100% crit chance

#

the only time itd be maybe significant is on builds utilizing perfect strike

#

but even then, thats 10s of 30% crit chance on a 60s (or 20s) cooldown

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which requires you to channel for 5 pulses

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and moving it to crit could make the buff worse

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as a low finesse class (ogryn) would benefit much more from raw damage

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than crit chance

hearty nebula
plush estuary
visual stream
#

BftE into RF into UD into D and SW into HR and then she IZ on my FF til I IJ

median steeple
#

too far gone

#

we have to put you donw

visual stream
#

I must agree

misty nova
plush estuary
#

coal has that meme

#

or cyn

hard nexus
#

i think

void bison
#

I can see grim dawn everywhere i go

solar gorge
#

too much dt nerd talk watch this guy get spooned instead

ripe quest
#

EC isnt really that good
Hmm
moving it to crit would make it worse
Wasn't saying that it would be better.

solar gorge
#

wdym

undone gale
#

zealot is 100% more enjoyable once you get rid of that goddamn jump bind

violet hornet
ornate bone
#

bro heard "get the hell outta dodge"

stone fern
lyric lava
#

out of boltgun/flamer/revolver which one is the best for dealing with bosses?

#

just came back to game and made a zealot but feel like im useless when theres a boss

craggy jackal
#

Boltgun

lyric lava
#

gotcha tyty

mighty root
lyric lava
#

wats the diff between them?

mighty root
#

Nvm for bosses bolt gun

#

Tbh if you’re zealot your melee is your boss dps

lyric lava
#

o

white lava
#

Zealot should have a two handed chain axe like what the Maulers have

lyric lava
#

im running relic blade/boltgun atm should i switch to something else

white lava
#

3 years ago when I learned it didnt i was bery sad

craggy jackal
#

Both of those are good

mighty root
lyric lava
#

i c ill stick to them and level them then

mighty root
#

You can mag dump then hit them with relic

carmine falcon
#

whoever designed everdark auger should quit game dev

#

and live forever in a secluded area

#

0/10 fight

vestal gazelle
#

cyber get in and do twins with us

ripe quest
# white lava Zealot should have a two handed chain axe like what the Maulers have

There was a "leak" back at launch where weapons had insignias, amongst the ones we still haven't seen there was a 2h chainaxe. Probably ran into the issue of 'we cannot make this distinct with Chaxe in a way that leaves both viable and also of similar theme' so they just made single target leaning variants for all chain weapons instead.

white lava
#

boring!!!

hexed igloo
#

Idc

white lava
#

fr

#

make it do more inpact or something

hexed igloo
#

Make it an evis with more cleave

white lava
#

seems pretty easy

lethal nest
#

just have 10 missions and the flesh wound penance and im done with zealot

#

and it only took 2 weeks

white lava
#

Zealot has easy ones

#

Pysker and Ogryn are annoying

lethal nest
#

yeah i heard about the 5000 heavy kills from my ogryn main friend

#

and the 50% monstrosty hp with brain burst

ripe quest
hexed igloo
#

I can see that being dope

ripe quest
#

Powersword's blade on the Crusher is also fire

hexed igloo
#

Fatass crustacean literally just use crusher handle with 2 chaxe blades on the end

ripe quest
hexed igloo
#

Make it swing like the crusher with more cleave than the evis

#

Battlechaxe done

frosty crescent
craggy jackal
#

Holy shit chastise the wicked

hexed igloo
#

It's not like the crusher and thammer are that different