zealot-class

[pulsar osprey]

Cool, any like, certain things i should run? I haven't played zealot at like...all when the mastery update came. One person said run choir

[analog python]

I think choir is what I had when I did it

[pulsar osprey]

Alright, should we find two others before trying?

[analog python]

Sure

[pulsar osprey]

Okay. Just figured such since it might be smoother

[analog python]

Yeah, it's doable with bots, just easier with more

[pulsar osprey]

Well, i don't really know others who can help

[analog python]

Can try with bots if you want

[pulsar osprey]

I'll let ya know when i can get on

[crimson mason]

Anyone got a hammer build for zealot?

[cerulean kettle]

i need this one too

that only penance for classes that is left for me 😄

and it annyoing me

[pulsar osprey]

Well im back and ready we could do it together if possible

So, just waitin on ya

[pulsar osprey]

Want me to inv to strike while waiting for chroma?

My chars name is saltzpyre

[violet hornet]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aae97b9-200f-4c8b-829a-27211f85fc86/bonk-13

[coral belfry]

I can’t imagine how different my experience would be if I picked zealot over psyker first

[analog python]

Just finished a mission, ready

[pulsar osprey]

Alright. What's your char name?

[analog python]

Clem

[pulsar osprey]

Where are you?

[analog python]

Sent a DM with my fatshark code

strike team 3

[pulsar osprey]

Joined ya. Should we grab Sergal?

[analog python]

Sounds good

[pulsar osprey]

Wanna join me and chrome to do it?

[cerulean kettle]

that would be great

[pulsar osprey]

Alright.

[cerulean kettle]

i really wanna do this achivement 😄

[pulsar osprey]

Alright. Send my friend code via dms

Ok. I think we're ready. Do we do rolling steel?

[misty nova]

Chat
What should I play today

[north sedge]

Hello kitty island adventure

[misty nova]

Looks cool

Expensive though

Open World?
How's a game like this open world

[north sedge]

Dunno I've never looked at it

[misty nova]

Doesn't seem like a bad game

However

TerraTech is 75% off

I'm getting that instead

https://tenor.com/view/terratech-car-game-ez-bevlig-gif-25308678

https://tenor.com/view/terratech-kill-gif-15924346626046526475

[slow stag]

wahts the zealot meta these days

relic sword/bolt pistol or dueling sword/flamer with chorus/piety?

[flint imp]

havoc or auric?

[slow stag]

i guess havoc? is there ab ig diff ? i feel like going into havoc but iv been spamming auric to get back into playing

[flint imp]

for havoc, duel sword bistol chorus piety is popular

[slow stag]

ok sweet i got a good set up already for that thanks

do people the toughness dmg aura node or the corruption cleansing one though generally ?

i think the rest is pretty textbook

[flint imp]

digusting book spam build

[slow stag]

ah thats pretty much the build i went with except i took the toughness gen on blazing procs

[flint imp]

the play here is to rely on backstabs for fast book cdr

this can easily carry havoc

gets boring tho

[forest nymph]

Peep the fit

[mighty root]

Fury is better than chours

[mighty root]

No twbs

[flint imp]

ik

xD

[mighty root]

[north sedge]

book has it uses in havoc, depends on team comp

auric it doesn't matter much

[mighty root]

Let me nerf my damage to keep my team alive 2 seconds longer

[north sedge]

Yea

[flint imp]

U can keep team alive indefinitely if u abuse back stab cdr

[north sedge]

Actually

[flint imp]

lol

[mighty root]

Imagine

Me thinks they need to practice more

[flint imp]

?

depends

[violet hornet]

I'll just tell the havoc randoms to get good, that'll save my havoc rank

[flint imp]

ppl can be good at the game but if they lack team cohesion then its gonna be a rough match for high havoc

[tame sluice]

popular amongst the zealot players who need DS and chorus to stay alive themselves

FOTF helps the team a lot more IF they already have some other support ability

[flint imp]

which is the average player

[tame sluice]

Chorus is the worst of the team support abilities to the point that I'd genuinely say if you want to support the team you should probably switch off Zealot

[plush estuary]

That's an interesting take

Why so?

Does abilites only mean F usage for classes?

[tame sluice]

Yes that is what I meant with that

[plush estuary]

I see

[tame sluice]

I have seen far too many liabilities even from people with true survivor that have half the 2nd lowest team members damage with Chorus to ever think that ability is worth taking in Havoc

The only people I have seen make Chorus work...it doesn't work because they are a good player

[flint imp]

depends on team comp

[tame sluice]

It works because they are being carried by 3 other good players

[flint imp]

interesting

[plush estuary]

Wouldn't stealth be considered the worst team support ability

Since it actively hurts the team each use?

[tame sluice]

No I mean the worst of the abilities that support your team

[plush estuary]

(agro dumping)

[tame sluice]

I.E Chorus, Taunt, etc.

[violet hornet]

Yeah even good players can get caught off guard if they fall into habits that would work in auric, but not havoc. Gotta check myself before charging the gunner line lol

[tame sluice]

Voice of Command/Nuncio/Bubble/Chorus/Taunt

[plush estuary]

How'd you lost team support abilities

I see

So center ability of all 5 classes

[tame sluice]

Oh yeah it is in the middle on all of them

funky

[visual stream]

If you can use it to get behind enemy lines and take a lot of aggro from there (risky), I think it could be considered team support

But it's more like offsetting how much damage you cause by using it at all

[flint imp]

the best example is DH Rituals

someone rushes it too early before team or don't bother to clear the area for a faster clear

[tame sluice]

Or it's one of the bugged ones that instantly goes into fast mode and forces you to rush :)

[flint imp]

didn't they fix that?

on communion and vigil station?

[tame sluice]

Bonus points if it's on Smelter Complex and forces you to trigger a 2nd one to clear the bugged one

That's a "fun" experience every time

[tame sluice]

not the vigil station one for sure, but I don't think dark communion is in havoc atm

[flint imp]

never had smelter rituals

[tame sluice]

that drop down into the large double sided room can have 2 DH rituals in it

And the one on the far side of that room is bugged and triggers instantly when you walk through the door

[flint imp]

for vigil station, im referring to where u will trigger the dh ritual meter from across the first bridge

[tame sluice]

There's also...that one mission in the hourglass

Comms-Plex?

That one has a bugged DH after the first elevator

[plush estuary]

Peoples definition of support vary

[tame sluice]

Triggers instantly and it's on the low ground in the next room

[plush estuary]

I see support as helping win the mission

Which I do by killing everything myself

[tame sluice]

Yeah exactly

Probably why I have controversial opinions about Chorus and the people that use it tbh

[flint imp]

More of a skill issue in my eyes for the pubs that use it

[plush estuary]

Cspawn having 2 second delay in its animations lost us the run

[tame sluice]

That's the thing even when I see videos of the actually good players use chorus it just looks like they aren't doing anything

And scoreboard kinda corroborates that since they almost always have the worst damage and kills despite being y'know

Freakishly good players who are better than me

[frosty herald]

oh nah thats BS

[plush estuary]

cause I got grabbed it swapped agro

and killed my team

which wouldn't have happaned if I saw its animtations and VoC'ed it before

[tame sluice]

Chaos Spawn are very balanced and fun monstrosities :)

I love that over half of my wipes in Havoc are directly because of them

[plush estuary]

really easy to cheese

[tame sluice]

The bulk of the other half is "oopsies the team didn't bring any horde clear so I guess we're all dying to ragers now!"

[hushed knoll]

I LOVE GUNKER

I WANT TO MARRY IT

OH THIS IS TENT CHAT

ZEALOT

[tame sluice]

How because if I can cheese these poorly balanced shitshows of enemies to death I will do so every time

[hushed knoll]

What guns do you use on gunker

[vocal pulsar]

i heard you were banned from psyker...

[hushed knoll]

I’M NOT WTF

Don’t believe the lies

[frosty herald]

slide under the grab or dodge right?

[hushed knoll]

I’m playing 5D chess

[plush estuary]

back against a wall and it can only use its slam and grab attack

you can loop them like a plague ogryun

plus the grab is on a timer

[tame sluice]

Oh I've tried that and it's very inconsistent

Like the entire enemy tbh

[plush estuary]

so if you know the time its easy to dodge the grab

~15 sec

[flint imp]

hmm?

personally I'm totally fine with a zealot having bad dps as long as u have the dps like an inferno psyker

[tame sluice]

Frankly I don't think anybody on the team should have bad DPS in a havoc lobby

Lower dps to run supportive abilities is fine

Outright bad dps is unacceptable

[flint imp]

or just use your nades or ability when grab happens

if u dont wanna risk it

[plush estuary]

dodge right

towards the tentacle

and dodge inwards

[tame sluice]

Even that feels inconsistent at times because of how comically massive the grab hitbox is

[visual stream]

As long as it's not last millisecond input, the dodge right is pretty consistent

Feels like cspawn particularly is more punishing for late dodge on the grab

[flint imp]

even for an ogryn?

[visual stream]

Dunno about ogryn, I barely played him before rework and haven't at all post-rework 😭

[hushed knoll]

Hello leggy bird

[visual stream]

I would imagine it is though, it would be weird if cspawn could get guaranteed grabs whenever it wanted to on ogryns

[visual stream]

HI STAN

[tame sluice]

It's already weird that chaos spawn are the tankiest,fastest monstrosities with guaranteed pushing even if they don't ever actually hit you

Guaranteed grabs would be the least of their strange design decisions

[flint imp]

I've had a habit of dodging right and sliding too for ogryn

[frosty herald]

cspawns just have a long range

[visual stream]

I also don't like their forcefield

Def not as annoying to deal with as a BoN imo

[flint imp]

bubble psyker

🙂

[tame sluice]

I can only think of a few specific sections of map where I don't want to see a burgle

A Chaos Spawn is a mssive threat anywhere no matter the context

Genuinely worse than the twins for wipes in my experience

At least the twins are kinda squishy

[visual stream]

I feel like if BoN is tolerable only because of one of 15 possible abilities in the game, it

is not tolerable at all

[flint imp]

magistrate first drop off to the big one way tunnel

gloriana 2nd drop off if u take right side tunnel instead of the barrel stairs

[visual stream]

Did that once

Never again

[slate notch]

Is it worth in any case taking toughness boost (+15 toughness) over Good Balance?

I mean, +15 toughness is basically a 4th curios and Good balance is +25 dmg reduction when dodging

[stone fern]

😭 game said BE QUIET

[hushed knoll]

CLAD HI

[north sedge]

it's after a dodge and its flat DR which is alot stronger

[hushed knoll]

HI KAYAK TONYS COIN

[north sedge]

what the fuck

[hushed knoll]

Jfc

I’m so sorry

Fucking phone

Did NOT mean to write that

[north sedge]

sure sure

[hushed knoll]

Dough I’m serious

[royal vortex]

Stan why would you say that

[hushed knoll]

I’m seriously sorry

[royal vortex]

First you talk about sloppy shitting all morning now this

[ripe quest]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-edited-message-edited-the-rock-gif-26394548

[hushed knoll]

O and I are next to each other on the keyboard, I absolutely did not mean to write that

I apologize

[north sedge]

ol kayak tony don't mind that kind of language

[violet hornet]

slop goes in, slop goes out

[royal vortex]

It's actually really funny and also karmic justice

[flint imp]

hmm should spare the point for something else

like duelist for example

[north sedge]

Live footage of stan

[slate notch]

Already have duellist

I mean, there's nothing much better than good balance

Good balance or Hp, toughness %

[vocal pulsar]

you quit darktide

leave this chat

ty

[north sedge]

he's working on the crusher guide super promise

[flint imp]

hmm good balance then but for all my builds, I don't usually take good balance

[tame sluice]

crusher guide that's just 20 pages about how good the push attack is

and the other attacks mentioned in passing on one page after the fact

[north sedge]

no

[visual stream]

"oh yeah and you wanna use light attack after push attack
i guess"

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-yoda-slap-slapping-yoda-puppet-yoda-puppet-slap-gif-15181455

[void bison]

what's up sinners

[mighty root]

If you’re running stalwart you can get it

[slate notch]

Yeah, running stalwart

[mighty root]

Just do the normal crit build

Yeah good balance would be the best option

[slate notch]

Yeah, I think I will. Man, zealot it's so boring atm... We really need that rework asap

[mighty root]

I mean he’s about the only way to enjoy real high octane gameplay

[acoustic dune]

@hushed knoll you know why I am here

Show thine filth

[visual stream]

It does one* thing but he does it gud

[tame sluice]

psyker

with a GUN

[plush estuary]

crusher gore

[mighty root]

[mighty root]

Melee psyker

[void bison]

here to stink up the joint

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-pigeonspin-spin-spinning-bird-gif-16876383143529096309

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/bonobo-nyota-chimpanzee-ape-monke-gif-25439605

[void bison]

is that a face reveal

[acoustic dune]

Aura reveal

https://tenor.com/view/milly-silly-mily-mily-cat-silly-cat-gif-16451208093732523080

[void bison]

aura reveal

[acoustic dune]

https://x.com/EL_K_8187/status/1949109446925545879?s=19

EL-K (@EL_K_8187)

X · Jul 26, 2025, 2:07 PM

Chat is this true

If the artist see this

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

Why are you in zealot chat

[signal spoke]

Okay that character and artstyle looks pretty cute

[acoustic dune]

It is cute

They did one last year aswell

It was a chad virgin comparaison

[drowsy steppe]

an Orc WAAGHrioor

[long oasis]

why is he doing that make him stop

[delicate lake]

so as a stealth zealot with combat knife, the knife is really only useful when using heavy attack?

[north sedge]

Nah it's stan's impersonation of a seal

[plush estuary]

heavy attack for the mk3 is the single target

[hushed knoll]

That legit sounds like it could be a seal

[hushed knoll]

Ass

[drowsy steppe]

a legend

[minor sigil]

havoc is unbeatable without bubble don't you know

[sullen forge]

Hot swaps to smyker

[plush estuary]

purg 😦

[plush estuary]

"fuck you, no clutch for you"

[ripe quest]

Heavies and push attacks generally.

[sullen forge]

Shit is the Graia actually hitting BPs?

[plush estuary]

ye

[plush estuary]

@chrome wave

[chrome wave]

bomb them

bombner proves

[thorn atlas]

I play a lot of inferno psyker and shield or pickaxe ogryn. I want to get serious at playing zealot next. Are the example builds in the 'zealot compendia' (pinned) still relevant?

[plush estuary]

yes the only thing that I dont really cover is what changes in havoc, really only some weapon blessings

ex. some weapons want wrath to keep up with the hitmass increase

[thorn atlas]

I'm aiming for auric at the moment. Havoc comes later.

[plush estuary]

then all good

[thorn atlas]

Thanks for the guide. I mainly want to melee, any suggestions for crit or non crit full builds?

[plush estuary]

My fav weapons are the tactical axe and crusher

And they both work on the "max DR" build perfectly

And if you want swap abilities to try them out

But fury is always my go too

[velvet orbit]

chat

[frosty herald]

taxe is so fun on vet

[velvet orbit]

thurst + slaughterer for crusher or skullcrusher + slaugheterer

[frosty herald]

skullcrusher slaughterer

[velvet orbit]

alr thanks

also

do you happen to know any good martyrdom crusher build

[thorn atlas]

DR? Also what's some of the worst mistakes people make as a zealot?

[velvet orbit]

i cant tell you exactly what are some of the worst mistakes but i can share some experiences that i have

zealot can be a potent support class

dont forgot to use the knives

[misty nova]

They don't dodge

[velvet orbit]

phew not me then

also higui

do you happen to have a good martyrdom crusher build

[pale spindle]

Isn't that every class? 😈

[misty nova]

It's basically The Build™ but martyrdom

[thorn atlas]

I've learned to dodge as a psyker, so that should go all right

[velvet orbit]

clarify

[pale spindle]

There are 3 builds for Zealot that's it

And tbh all of them are 80% the same

[velvet orbit]

would uh

[velvet orbit]

thunder hammer build works great with crusher

[thorn atlas]

yea that's what surprised me about the compendia guide, it's just a set path with little variations.

[misty nova]

It's just this

[velvet orbit]

like either weapon arent know for critting so

[velvet orbit]

so i dont need purge the unclean ?

or that's only recommend for hammer

[misty nova]

It's recommended for hammer to really hit hard against Unyielding

PtU is very optional

[velvet orbit]

i see

so crusher is just hard hitting on it own ?

[pale spindle]

2 points for purge is cope imo 😈

[misty nova]

Every class is immortal if you dodge

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

[misty nova]

Yes and no

[velvet orbit]

clarify

[misty nova]

One of the things about Crusher is that you want to get max value out of Skullcrusher

But it also has raw damage

And an okayish CRIT scaling

[velvet orbit]

cara unyld or cara mani

[north sedge]

there's a crusher guide in the pins that goes over the attacks and so on

[velvet orbit]

ok thanks

[plush estuary]

Dr meaning damage reduction, on the build examples section I have the "max Dr build" which is in my opinion zealots strongest build

And most mistakes comes from pacing

They either are too slow and aren't in combat enough to activate survivability talents (2nd wind, enduring faith, blood redemption, good balance, and holy revanent"

Or they are too fast

And get overwhelmed

[plush estuary]

Zealot has the problem of being one of the older skill trees. This play having so many talents that aren't useful in 90% of situations causes for most zealot build to follow the same parh

Path

And that path going through all the strongest talents

[thorn atlas]

this has been my problem as a zealot (with a bad build)

[plush estuary]

2nd wind, duelist until death

[thorn atlas]

First roll, surely the emperor has blessed me

[thorn atlas]

Feels like ogryn before the update with shield being the only viable option

[plush estuary]

I disagree, just most people ran that cause it was simple and easy

I used to run pickaxe and shovel into havoc 1.0 on oldgryn

[flint imp]

This update?

Pickaxe was the meta for ogryn

[thorn atlas]

I saw the most success when ogryn used shields, but you're right because the shield makes it easier while pickaxe was probably the meta

[flint imp]

Honestly most ogryns I see run the clubs

Basher to be specific

[thorn atlas]

now yes

[flint imp]

Or mk 4 cleaver

That was popular too back then

[thorn atlas]

Which mark do I put on my tactical axe?

[plush estuary]

7 is the most common with it's push attack then heavy combo for horde

Then light spam for carapace and unyielding

4 is just light spam

2 I don't use

[quick mountain]

is there any truth to mk6 heavy sword being better for cleaving elites or do the marks really only just have a moveset difference? ive seen both reginald and mister e float that idea despite the mk9 having the seemingly better moveset

[plush estuary]

Unsure about numbers but 9 is boring moveset for me

So I run 7

[thorn atlas]

I'm going to guess that you combo the tactical axe with something accurate long range?

[plush estuary]

I use shredder auto pistol or the combat shotgun

Taxe doesn't struggle against anything

You also have throwing knives for ranged

Being whatever range you want

People often bring bolter because they don't like it's carapace damage

[thorn atlas]

I've never used those before, so it's an unkown for me. Will pick my bolt pistol I guess since it's maxed

[misty nova]

Ok here's the thing

All Heavy Strikedowns of Hsword

Deals first target damage to 2 targets

So mk6 and mk7 having different angles is what probably is being tied to "cleaving elites"

However

The angle is also weird enough so you don't get full value of deathblow

As you can see on the last one

I somehow managed to hit bodies twice

On a diagonal ish cut

[quick mountain]

so is it generally worth it to swap off mk 9 for this or is this more of just a gimmick?

[misty nova]

Honestly up to you

Mk9 has easier time on hordes because both heavies have good angles and shit for Deathblow reasons

Mk6 and 7 can use deathblow for hordes but the angles and the heavy properties might no be the best

Because as you can see

The third target took basically no damage

Because of fall off

So if you were to kill 5 chaff the 6th and so would be unharmed ish

[quick mountain]

i'll play around to get a feel for what works better for me but from this alone mk9 seems the more sensible option

[misty nova]

BUT

Mk6 L1 L2
Mk7 L2 L3

Have special cleave damage distribution property

It goes

1st target damage

Cdd

2nd target Dmg to the 2nd target
2nd target dmg to the 3rd
Cdd
3rd to the 4th
3rd for the 5th
Cdd

Minimum

So if you were to proc deathblow

1st target dmg for the 4 initial targets

Then the rest of the special cdd mechanic above

As long as you have cleave that is

Which does tempt me to go Deathblow Perfect Strike

[quick mountain]

not sure how practical that would be for the mulching shotgunner/rager hordes since the elite combo for that's sp -> h1

....unless ive been doing it wrong and i should also just be doing light heavy loops when theres more than one rager

[tame sluice]

tbh crit cooldown reduction has been great for relic blade in my experience

even despite it usually one shotting most things

[earnest eagle]

is the dump stat for the flamer Damage?

[misty nova]

Yes

[earnest eagle]

huh. why?

[misty nova]

Only weapon in the game that dumps that

It only affects direct damage from the fire stream

And the difference is ~1

[earnest eagle]

huh. interdasting.

[misty nova]

Flamers actual damage comes from the Burn stat

[delicate lake]

combat knife or duel sword for stealth zealot?

[tame sluice]

thunder hammer

if you're going to use the bad meme ability

you might as well commit to the reason that it's a meme ability

[quick mountain]

i had a shroudfield thammer zealot last night on damnation hi-intensity rotten armor who had the lowest elite, specials, and boss damage somehow

i killed crushers on heavy sword faster 💀

[void bison]

they both look like dorks

[misty nova]

Yeah that's Raidou

That's Raidou yeah

[hexed igloo]

It's the solution to self-esteem issues

Instead of saying "I bet they think I look weird" you say "I got this shit on fr I bet they think my fit hard"

[thorn atlas]

@plush estuary Awesome build & advice, zealot feels like another class now. Only had trouble due to tunnelvision bloodlust and the event pox clouds obstructing my view of crusher attacks.

[misty nova]

Bloodlust is a canon event

[runic grotto]

people in the party finder are so fucking weird

Got accepted into a low havoc just for them to go afk

I just left after several minutes of waiting for nothing

[scenic drift]

hmm

[spring storm]

"hey did you guys leave.... guys??"

[scenic drift]

chorus with iod and cutthroat is absurd cooldown at times

[mighty root]

What build are you using?

[tame sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wyd-cat-scratching-cat-scratch-cleaning-screen-gif-15994084353171838166

[crimson mason]

Does zealot have an ungabunga weapon that makes quick work of both hordes and heavily armored dudes?

I tried the crusher, it kicks ass on the arbiter but zealot doesnt have the same stagger power as arbites

[void bison]

pov bedrock

[north sedge]

it's still incredible on zealot

otherwise relic

[crimson mason]

🤔

[hard nexus]

arbites is incredibly OP so

[tame sluice]

I don't really see it

Execution Order and Concussive are sure OP

The class overall?

No way

[crimson mason]

I feel that when trying zealot right now, on my arbites i can mulch everything the game throws at me no problem. Zealot struggles a bit with having both horde clear and staggering crushers

[tame sluice]

And even then Arbites peak strength is...not anywhere near Psyker and Ogryn

[plush estuary]

Meow, I finished the 2nd edition of the Fulgora base

[hard nexus]

2 arbites can trivialize h40 lmfao

[crimson mason]

Psyker probably has the most impact of everyone but only if they can stay alive, they are ultra squishy

[hard nexus]

pawesome

[frosty herald]

Thats the worst take ive heard around arbites

You get the tankiness of ogryn in a human class

[plush estuary]

The trash from the trash planet flows

[frosty herald]

And the damage buffs ho boy

[tame sluice]

Ogryn is tankier if you're not using castigator's stance

The damage buffs hinge on using Concussive which I did admit is OP earlier

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/gustave-expedition33-clairobscur-clairobscurexpedition33-clair-gif-15640863854440752266

[plush estuary]

Hit enemies till they die

[hard nexus]

i’ll figure out gleba,,, eventually,,

[tame sluice]

And frankly weird as it feels to say I do think Castigator's Stance is their weakest ability right now

[heady frost]

How does this work? 10% total for everyone in coherency? So if there are 4 players, each gets 2.5%?

[tame sluice]

because Execution Order is bugged

[plush estuary]

I'm sorry for your loss, I do not wanna touch that planet

[hard nexus]

we’re gonna need it for aquilo

[tame sluice]

Malocator Castigator's Stance Arbites is like...invincible

[hard nexus]

so

[plush estuary]

Yeah....

[hard nexus]

despair

[plush estuary]

We'll get vynth

Give him full planet control

[hard nexus]

lmfao

no i’ll do it

[plush estuary]

Lol

[hard nexus]

it’s not the big of a deal

[plush estuary]

I'll help, after I tweak fulgora

Might need to design better ships

They take ship damage while in orbit

[frosty herald]

"Minor" tweaks in factorio

[plush estuary]

*chip

[frosty herald]

5 hours later

[plush estuary]

Yup

Folgora is becoming my fav planet

Also got new batteries, power suit, and batteries researched

2 batteries

Meant personal roboport

[spare crescent]

Nah it must be 10%

2,5% would be way too low

[sterile basalt]

everyone but you get 10%

[misty nova]

Just don't get hit bruh

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

[crimson mason]

Playing zealot again after playing arbites almost feels like the class is bugged

lose half your halth bar when you get sneezed at and cant just steamroll everything

[carmine falcon]

nah

zealot STRONK

[craggy jackal]

Me when 5 million sources of tdr and second wind

[misty nova]

You can literally steamroll everything as zealot

Get more practice in

You have better dodges

You have better melee

You have better finesse

[tame sluice]

I dunno about better melee

or dodges since arbites has street smarts

finesse though 100%

[misty nova]

Nah

You literally have better dodges

2.5 meters, 0.2 linger

Arby's has 2m

0.2 linger

[tame sluice]

oh RIGHT

because arbites is actually psyker base stats (with more health)

so they get the fucky bad dodges too

[misty nova]

Also Fatshark really looked at psykers anticipation

Saw that no one used it

And gave a worse version to arbys

[tame sluice]

I use it sometimes

On uh

meme builds with knife

[misty nova]

See what I'm talking about

[tame sluice]

To dodge slide like 30 meters

[misty nova]

[tame sluice]

It's very funny

Practical use cases? I dunno man not many

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/mid-this-shit-is-so-mid-it's-mid-gif-8902724714507480096

Wow

Arby's unique melee really have weird cleave values

I wouldn't be surprised if the cleave on push is a core talent

[languid wasp]

is there a way to solo the flesh wound penance or do I have to have at least a second person

[hollow field]

you're probably going to need a vet popping voice of command if things get hairy

[signal spoke]

You must need to be at a party with someone

[craggy jackal]

You can do it on heresy difficulty

[languid wasp]

yeah I figured a heresy rolling steel would be pretty chill

[craggy jackal]

Sure is

[crimson mason]

i dont really see it tbh, arbiter facerolls everything

[obtuse solstice]

I definitely feel like arby is just a better zealot

only play zealot for parry memes at this point

[misty nova]

So does zealot

Just as you're saying

You don't see it

[misty nova]

But it's not

You outfinesses and outdogdes Arby's

[obtuse solstice]

I mean, taking h40 for example zealot is locked in book and relic/ds, while arby can use literally everything and be chillin

[crimson mason]

You would nerf zealot before arby's if you were in charge of balancing?

When I wanna blast through my weekly H40 I usually pick ogryn or arby, sometimes psyker if i feel spicy

[misty nova]

Zealot is not locked to book

That was havoc 1.0 meta

Havoc 2.0 is boss spam

You pick book you have low dps

Nor locked to those melee

Relic
Dueling Sword
Hammer
Tacaxe
Eviscerator
Crusher

[minor sigil]

Zealot has a stupidly outdated tree so naturally

[obtuse solstice]

from my experience, I have NEVER seen a zealot not on book and relic/ds in h30+

[minor sigil]

Fatshark went from increased crit chance being a keystone to increased crit chance being a regular talent node

[misty nova]

From your experience

[minor sigil]

I will never accept a chorusbot into my havocs

I would rather have a 4th teammate

[misty nova]

^ see?

[minor sigil]

but yes 99% of zealots are running book

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[obtuse solstice]

if you don't want a book zealot then an arby is the better pick

[misty nova]

It's not

[minor sigil]

I would love a FOTF zealot actually

[misty nova]

This isn't going anywhere is it

😭

[minor sigil]

worst one is Psyker

out of the 15 Psykers I got on the party finder today, 15 of them were running Bubble and Warp Siphon

[neon nebula]

What’s a good secondary for zealot . Spearhead is good but damn that reload

[minor sigil]

Flamer

[neon nebula]

Is it good for horses?

[misty nova]

Agri Braced Auto

[neon nebula]

Hordes

🤣🤣🤣

[misty nova]

Anything that isn't Carapace

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-alerted-the-horse-horse-gt-when-the-gif-24722142

[neon nebula]

So what are the carapace

[misty nova]

Crushers basically

And maulers head but flamer doesn't hit their heads

[minor sigil]

A flamethrower is magnificent weapon for hordes

[signal spoke]

Maulers helmet but you aint aiming on their head with flamer, i think

[frosty herald]

Penetrating flames

[plush estuary]

what

did I read

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[plush estuary]

you have to have Ds

[neon nebula]

Ok braces auto or flamer

[craggy jackal]

Wait we can read?

[plush estuary]

and gold toughness

[neon nebula]

Gotta pick one

[plush estuary]

and a taunt ogryn

need rumbler

need ubbble

need purge

need krak

need frag

need voc

need plasma

gg

https://tenor.com/view/cat-share-this-cat-if-you-already-lost-your-mind-insane-lost-your-mind-share-this-gif-11044010788421076558

[misty nova]

Ok Ainz
Don't crash out now

[plush estuary]

lol

[misty nova]

[median steeple]

ouble....

[minor sigil]

only way to win Havoc is Ogrynheimer, Bubble Baby and Chorusbot

damage is illegal

[neon nebula]

Last question need a vote .. braced auto or flamer

[plush estuary]

braced

gria is funny

[minor sigil]

1 of these guys die and it's ggs

hyperspecialization is SO GOOD!

[misty nova]

The popular braced is Agripina though

[craggy jackal]

But which is the funniest

[frosty herald]

Erm actualy krak falls off in havoc because it doesnt do enough damage to oneshot crushers

[plush estuary]

I've yet to see a crusher live my krak

[hollow field]

Does this include the +50% damage talent on nades? 🤔

[plush estuary]

idk whats happening to others

[frosty herald]

Hmmm

[misty nova]

Maybe you have tinkerer or whatever the name

[frosty herald]

It seems ive fallen victim to misinformation

[north sedge]

Vets confidence is low so they can't keep their krak up long enough to finish off the crusher

[hollow field]

Low T and weak stream

[plush estuary]

@hard nexus

the DT servers rn

[misty nova]

Me when I fade in that makes me explode

[frosty herald]

No devs to reset the servers

[hard nexus]

peak

[hollow field]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-yes-yes-gif-14926051

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269791447037640798/1398819646328672366/boomboomb.gif

its a gif now

rip harry baldmann

[tame sluice]

https://fximgur.com/a/UmhBSAR so glad I have a clip like this of my own now

[hollow field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_vM_nCCWY

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1398800900537192499/RDT_20250320_123923.mp4?ex=6886ae5b&is=68855cdb&hm=46cf2d287c58972a4f26169f232f3224f3bce9b6cac09bf6bfc52b34203b522f&

[hexed igloo]

My favorite genre of weeb is the ones that take their body pillows up a mountain on a hike

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-lemonade-drinking-summer-gif-19177283

[lean cairn]

@obsidian ore they didnt fix skitarius?

[plush estuary]

@lean cairn

[misty nova]

Raised visor
-1000000 aura

[plush estuary]

@green yacht @chrome wave

I love pubs

dying laughing

[lean cairn]

he forgot he could scroll down then he remembered

[chrome wave]

HE'S SO CLOSE TO PERFECTION

[misty nova]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9N5cXEh8dYk?si=sdBWeWZiNsJ7cqW_&utm_source=ZTQxO

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/matikanefukukitaru-picmix-picmix-matikanefukukitaru-uma-musume-picmix-matikanefukukitaru-uma-musume-matikanefukukitaru-picmix-uma-musume-pretty-derby-matikanefukukitaru-picmix-gif-7923954835586002551

[plush estuary]

@midnight wharf

[frosty crescent]

would anyone have any recommendations for cosmetics that look like the Warrior Priest from Vermintide 2

[hollow field]

Almost perfect, cept for the spiky leather daddy sleeve

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269791447037640798/1398819646328672366/boomboomb.gif

[craggy jackal]

outskilled i think

[misty nova]

Gangplank saying Barrel!.mp3

[formal umbra]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/eb9b19a4983b7e2d661d511f94139b91/266892b3bc3b4e44-d5/s540x810/d59e6d285e32ba8a149e82aecc08767825c6e529.gif

[flint imp]

bug? 61% defence

[minor sigil]

rounding error

[formal umbra]

yeah its a bug

its still 60%

[chrome wave]

ADORABLE PERFECT CUTE

[chrome wave]

INTENSELY LOVEABLE

[plush estuary]

can they make a grilled cheese

[acoustic dune]

They look high

[chrome wave]

HIGHLY ADORABLE

[frosty crescent]

oh thats quite fitting thank you

[craggy jackal]

hi chat why do we not recommend execution on bistol

[misty nova]

Only up during the stagger

[north sedge]

Requires follow up shots or after staggers

[frosty crescent]

for dueling sword talents to mimic the vt2 rapier, shall i take thrust and agile/precog

[misty nova]

Never agile

https://tenor.com/view/football-sandwich-ate-eat-big-gif-4460753

[jagged cradle]

that’s what you get for not using relic

[misty nova]

When you're on shootout and this banger starts

https://youtu.be/v1Xp4tlm28c?si=4WgvC5EQ4COass7r&utm_source=MTQxZ

[acoustic dune]

chat

https://tenor.com/view/sending-prayers-sending-love-kitty-cat-kitten-gif-46274750604040287

ok now go krill angron

[hushed knoll]

[visual stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/673282776325160960/1398453781040992328/m2-res_480p-1.mp4?ex=6886bc93&is=68856b13&hm=41734f73272db6bffafb9cbd9068158213813ab313a1330786c0098faff86154&

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-dropkick-black-templar-gif-3633792756769275524

YOU WILL NOT BULLY OUR LOSER HORSE GIRL

[tame sluice]

Is this horse game the latest way to use cutesy anime girls to skirt around casino legislation

[acoustic dune]

thankfully not

[visual stream]

I wish

[acoustic dune]

they give out alot of free rolls

plus they have to get permission to horse the horse gal

by the horse men

[tame sluice]

uh-huh

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/equestrian-horse-horse-riding-horseback-riding-jump-gif-16600578

[acoustic dune]

its cool gambling

[tame sluice]

no gambling is not cool

especially not when it's packaged like this

[visual stream]

I'm a Vodka and Matikanefukukitaru fan

[tame sluice]

to try and detract from the fact that it is gambling

[visual stream]

I should look into the real life counterparts

[tame sluice]

and to skirt around laws that specifically stop gambling from fucking people over

[pale spindle]

Oh no not the fucking horse gacha 💀

[visual stream]

The funny part is that the gacha doesn't do anything for you if you're not actually playing the game like a sentient human being

At least from what I can tell

[acoustic dune]

god i remenber my azur lane days

[tame sluice]

yes this is how Diablo Immortal skirts gambling laws too

[acoustic dune]

i spent zero dilla

[visual stream]

STAR RAIL MENTIONED

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-enterprise-cv-6-keyboard-typing-gif-173866320933161168

[visual stream]

Two out of two good gachas ever made mentioned in chat at the same time

[tame sluice]

Or any other shit tier mobile game monetization

[acoustic dune]

is star rail really good gacha?

what is a good gacha exactly?

am i good gacha

or is the good gacha was the friend we made along the way

[pale spindle]

What's the second? 🤔

[tame sluice]

Games that function as a game first and foremost with the gambling aspect either not tied to monetization, or only theoretically tied to it

Like Warframe

[acoustic dune]

i am thankful i neverr touch warframe

or LoL

[tame sluice]

It's such a fun game until you actually get into it

[acoustic dune]

so darktide

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-laughing-laughinglizard-hehehe-gif-5215392

[tame sluice]

Still occasionally fun to hop back onto warframe and find what new weird shit that nobody ever uses that they've added since you last played

And use the most deranged weapons/builds in public Steel Path lobbies and top damage

[acoustic dune]

the real gacha is the people you get in your lobby

[pale spindle]

The real gacha is Brunt 😈

[acoustic dune]

the real gacha is

[pale spindle]

The real gacha

[acoustic dune]

the real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMJtN9Nmdlk

WHOOOOOOOOOOO

[visual stream]

Star Rail

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-is-real-one-piece-whitebeard-the-one-piece-is-real-can-we-get-much-higher-gif-27138892

[visual stream]

Very good

[pale spindle]

Wait what was the first then

[visual stream]

Horsey game

[pale spindle]

Hoyo has good gachas because they have queer characters

Change my mind

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-funny-funny-gloves-horse-gloves-gif-220732532716449550

the welcoming horse

[visual stream]

Is Star Rail written well because it has queer characters or does it have queer characters because it's written well

Munch on that grass liberals

[pale spindle]

It's all the same

😈

Tbh I don't understand why others gachas don't follow the formula

[acoustic dune]

ok now i need a well written faccist character

[pale spindle]

Instead of marketing for PDFs

Market to us queers 😤

[acoustic dune]

you are queer?

i thought you as an orcka

[pale spindle]

😭

[visual stream]

Just make the game have good writing
Good gameplay
Good gays

Infinite money generation

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/venti-chad-gif-23402436

[pale spindle]

ZZZ seems to be too straight for me 😰

[formal umbra]

Did I accidentally start an argument

[pale spindle]

Arguments don't exist in Zealot 😈

[acoustic dune]

no you started a war

[formal umbra]

Even better then

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/floor7-f7-hypixel-skyblock-gif-26388125

chat is this true

[pale spindle]

Nid versus necron is basically just bugs evolving immunity against pesticide

[visual stream]

Nid gets booty spreaded by necrons no?

[acoustic dune]

do you think the necron would one day develop space armor

[visual stream]

Not even anything they can do to win against it

It's just always loss of biomass for no reason

[acoustic dune]

oh wtf google

[pale spindle]

The only "counter" to Nids is Chaos

[acoustic dune]

this

[pale spindle]

There isn't much material between Necron and Nids, so I don't exactly know what Nids do to adapt to Necrons

[acoustic dune]

spaced armor

[pale spindle]

But I believe in the Lesbian Hive mind

[acoustic dune]

the queer topia

i just thought of smth

is someone is name yuri

[visual stream]

the liberal hivemind...

[acoustic dune]

and went to japan

what would happen to yuri

[acoustic dune]

do you think they could stll the neron corpse and use it as armor?

like a manequin of some kind

[pale spindle]

I'm sure they can use the material

Idk like I said I learn my lore from wiki articles 😈

[acoustic dune]

i dreamt of it

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

tf

steam changed ui

chat

are we cooked

[pale spindle]

I never used steam UI so I don't care

Was shit to begin with anyways

[plush estuary]

@ebon cove

[hexed igloo]

Covered a gamer girl in hickeys call me the mark applier

[hexed igloo]

If steam is changing then it's for the better I'd trust gaben if he had access to the big red button that crushes my balls in a hydraulic press

[scenic drift]

wdym? ui change where?

[carmine falcon]

wtf

beautiful

[acoustic dune]

Main page

It seem

[frosty crescent]

is there anything in this game that mimics bounty hunter's outfit from vt2

either on veteran or zealot

[scenic drift]

Store page? I rarely visit that 🥲

[acoustic dune]

We got saltspyre

With the hat

Try the drip mod and check i guess

[misty nova]

Not a lot of Bucketheads

[plush estuary]

@carmine falcon

help

[carmine falcon]

what is blud doing all the way down there

silly goose

[scenic drift]

carnibro can't climb

[plush estuary]

@strong cosmos

@copper hawk

[strong cosmos]

Skill issue

[plush estuary]

this is why I dont play bulwark

[scenic drift]

Skill issue

[plush estuary]

this is also the last class to max prestige

[scenic drift]

I only play bulwark, never had that happen.

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

How does that even happen

[copper hawk]

Not usin psword ?

Cwinge !

[plush estuary]

I am

[desert vessel]

What attack pattern do you use on relic blade 10 for single targets

[visual stream]

painting titled "diplomat"

[desert vessel]

For horde clear I'm doing light 1 and 2 with h2

[misty nova]

Pa heavy light heavy heavy light

Or was it

Pa light heavy heavy light heavy

It's 2am I don't remember

[acoustic dune]

god i wanna make a custom styled maximalian armor someday

prob before my death bed

I am a sucker for parade armor

[copper hawk]

Full plate

Pretty cringe

[acoustic dune]

Warhammer to your face

[misty nova]

Aura kill

[copper hawk]

I hope ur usin the parry version of the wpns

[carmine falcon]

he is

[copper hawk]

Stabs u w rapier b4 ur even in ur krieg

[carmine falcon]

and that's el cringe!

[copper hawk]

El awesome.

[acoustic dune]

Chat

[carmine falcon]

only on powersword

[acoustic dune]

Spear this man

[copper hawk]

Rapier and renaissance halfplate to 18th century cuirassier cavalrymen armor is peam

I love saberz and rapierz ,,

Full plate and ls ?

BOOOOORING

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/gwent-gwentcard-neutral-mastercrafted-spear-gif-13786509

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1398889678534610945/E5FE2B1.MP4?ex=68870109&is=6885af89&hm=5638f52de772e5f595bfa3d7ed28aec9f17a5ec0a646827833db05a3c70ab610& @copper hawk

[misty nova]

Funny cacti

[remote warren]

in general: trying for just a flesh wound msg me

[acoustic dune]

I perfer full plate and bastard sword

Your flimsy rapier does not intrigue me

[trail grove]

I want to make a Catachan Sword specialized in parrying, so how should I build it and what's the dump stat?

For both Zealot and Veteran.

[copper hawk]

Rapiers not flimsy

On average rapiers are longer than HaaHSs anyways

[copper hawk]

Uh

Mobi or defenses

Whichever it has

[visual stream]

Sword cap goes through dodge state, no?

[trail grove]

I have one that's got Cleave Targets as its dump stat for some reason

[tame sluice]

cleave targets is the dueling sword's dump stat yes

[copper hawk]

Dclaw does dogshit damage against armor so u dont want to dump anything that deals damage

@trail grove the standard dclaw build

2 points for wherever

Twbs or Faithful Frenzy + Anoint or

Anoint and purge

So on and so forth

[trail grove]

Hm.

[copper hawk]

Shred and rampage for blessings

Flak and maniacs/flak elites for perks

I use flakiac

Curios run 3 tness curios

W +tness, +stam, +gunner

[trail grove]

Isn't that just a standard DClaw?

[copper hawk]

If ur going to be utilizing the parry

I do mine w/o stam regen

I run 3 tness w 3 hp 3 tness 3 gunner res

Up 2 u

[trail grove]

I'm mainly going to use my shotgun.

[minor sigil]

all you need is 3 CDR, 3 gunner resist and 3 revive speed

[copper hawk]

Welcome to zelaot

Zealot*

Not a lot of variety

I wouldnt take cdr

[trail grove]

I'm also using it for Veteran

[minor sigil]

it's the clutch setup

[copper hawk]

Diminishing returns

You have great cdr already in both trees

One of the best on Veteran

Flat 6 seconds on any specialist kill

IoD is one of the best cdrs as wlel

Wlel*

WELL*

Kya !

[minor sigil]

eliminating 4 seconds from VoC and FotF is pretty good

[copper hawk]

Id argue it's not

[minor sigil]

often the difference between being hit or not

[copper hawk]

Compared to other stuff you could take

[minor sigil]

which isn't much

[copper hawk]

Stamina regen is good for dclaw and taxe

Desperationless crusher

Gunner resistance for your biggest threat as a Zealot in combat

[copper hawk]

The one thing that doesnt proc your dodge talents

Reapers and Gunners

3 gunner res lets you face tank a gunner for like 2 or 3 full seconds

Which is nuts

Spread out between dodges in high havoc it's a requirement

In most auric gameplay it's not but still incredibly useful

[minor sigil]

why did you dump cleave 😭

[trail grove]

Idk. I just have it.

[copper hawk]

Having essentially 12 or 10 seconds already w iod being constantly proc'd means your swing speed buff from your fury of the faithful charge drops after another charge comes back

Which is more than enough imo

It's a cost benefit thing

[copper hawk]

I know Cole is vehemntly against taking cdr, I'd say he considers it a noob trap

[trail grove]

Different knife

[minor sigil]

Cole is against CDR because Cole hates fun

[copper hawk]

Use the mobi dump one

[minor sigil]

not because he thinks it's a noobtrap

[copper hawk]

That specific cdr

On curios

He's talked about why he's against it a bunch of times

And that's generally why he says not to take it

It occupies a spot better used for something else

[minor sigil]

Yap yap yap 12% off my ability forever I'm not taking it off

[copper hawk]

And it isn't impactful unless you take all 3 curios w it

[minor sigil]

there's not many things worth using

[copper hawk]

Stamina regen

Hp

Gunnet resis

Depending on modifiers, corruption

[minor sigil]

+5% HP? oh boy

[trail grove]

I want different knives for different occasions, and this one's (supposed) to be the parrylot one.

[copper hawk]

Sniper res

Tness is a requirement usually

[minor sigil]

SNIPER RESIST

Dude the toughness is a noob trap

[copper hawk]

It's... not

[minor sigil]

it's like 9 toughness with all stacked

[trail grove]

The last one's entirely dedicated to horde clearing.

[copper hawk]

There's really only one effective dclaw set up

That being ramp and shred

At least for zealot

Idk for vet

Cleave targets actively fucks rampage

[minor sigil]

the 2 most dangerous things in havoc are not getting your allies up when they fall, and gunners

[copper hawk]

Suspiciously gunner resistanceless curio:

[minor sigil]

so I just have full gunner DR and full revive speed

[copper hawk]

Need dat 4 seconds ,,

[minor sigil]

I also have the 4 seconds

[trail grove]

Does it have to do with how you're killing too many?

[desert vessel]

Is taxe good for crit builds

[trail grove]

Wait, wait.

[copper hawk]

Taxe is for crit builds

[desert vessel]

Ok

[copper hawk]

Taxe has a higher base crit than most weapons

[trail grove]

Dumped Cleave Targets, right?

[copper hawk]

Any weapon with finesse is a crit weapon

[desert vessel]

Also what perks and blessings on relic blade

[copper hawk]

You're not hitting a smuch

[desert vessel]

And bolt pistol

[copper hawk]

Rampage only procs when you hitba certain amount of enemies

[minor sigil]

never once have I lost a run because I didn't have stamina regen on curios, but I've lost games because I couldn't use an ability fast enough, I've lost games because of gunners, and I've lost teammates because my revive speed was too slow