zealot-class

[mint brook]

You remove a players wound for your own

[rugged rock]

can you explain what you mean by taking health damage transfers to toughness?

[mint brook]

That could be neat

[mint brook]

So bleed through damage hits your toughness instead

[acoustic dune]

i would argue that when he use his blitz he get rid of a wound

[misty nova]

Yeah I'm not sure how you went from be stronger at less health to fucking set things on fire lmao

[acoustic dune]

that way i dont have to deal with sitting and hitting a hit to proc martydom

[mint brook]

Cause cuasing fire adds to the strength still

Fire is a very powerful modifier

[misty nova]

Why not

Just kill the target

[acoustic dune]

that way lets say now they have to balance health n blitz

[rugged rock]

that entirely defeats the point of toughness in general though, I would change that personally

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/saibamen-yamcha-dbz-gif-15067242038020165323

just hit them with one of thesse

[rugged rock]

the entire point of martyrdom is to be a glass cannon, not make yourself more tanky AND get more damage

[mint brook]

The main issue was of martyrdome is bleedthrough, so if someone can suggest a solution, i would welcome it

[acoustic dune]

so like a khornate berserker

[misty nova]

Oh wait
If you have enough melee damage

What target would survive enough to get use of fire

Just kill the target one hit and be done

[mint brook]

Martyrdome can basically not exist in havoc, which while i dont mind something being meta, i do mind it becoming non existant

[mint brook]

I try to avoid oneshots, they arent really fun in the sense of gamebalance

[rugged rock]

if you wanted to prevent bleedthrough while still keeping it in the style of the game's current mechanics, I would make it so that each stack of martyrdom increases toughness regen/toughness damage reduction, and when at 100% toughness you get no bleedthrough even from something like a crusher hit

[acoustic dune]

but what if the fire spread on contact with other troop

[mint brook]

Arbitese and ogryn already suffer this issue, where oneshots become more and more if a thing due to crusher spam

[acoustic dune]

or is that too ambitious

[misty nova]

Arby's can't one shot

[rugged rock]

My guy most martyrdom builds are built around one shot hammers, that's like 90% of the fun of it

[misty nova]

That's why it's mid

You're gimping martyrdom

And adding dots

When martyrdom is just going to insta kill targets

[mint brook]

Now i may be hallucinating

[rugged rock]

thunder hammer captain builds are one of the most useful builds you can have on your team if the rest of the team has good horde clear

[mint brook]

But arbitese can oneshot

[mint brook]

Yup, they are

[mint brook]

And thunderhammer is one of the few weapons where oneshots are fine

[misty nova]

Notice how they say 2 instead of 1

#nooticing

[queen cloud]

If crushers can one shot me with a rock on a stick I’d like to one shot them with a hammer to the face

[frosty herald]

Which enemies tho...

[misty nova]

2 shots anything less than a boss

[mint brook]

Iirc my build can insta gib a crusher

[misty nova]

Well it's vague

But anything less than a boss

[mint brook]

I will record it later

If i am wrong we will know

[frosty herald]

if it isnt an ogryn mauler or crusher id understand

[misty nova]

Can't one shot mauler?

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[frosty herald]

Not to my knowledge

[misty nova]

If I wanted to play a melee character with melee damage (martyrdom) and not one shot stuff

[rugged rock]

I feel like at max stacks of certain key abilities and blessings you absolutely could

I will test

[misty nova]

I'd play Arbites

[mint brook]

In general, i am for nerfs on ogryns toughness and arbitese, but atm i am more concerned about other classes, the issue isnt them being op, rather that other classes are meh, let us be honest

[misty nova]

You're not being honest

[mint brook]

How so?

[misty nova]

Finesse wise arbites is slacking

[mint brook]

Yes?

[rugged rock]

Nerfs on Ogryn toughness? The class with one of the lowest total toughness bars in the game?

[misty nova]

You can Walk up to any enemy as the 4 base classes and just kill it

Arbites needs to set up all these staggered bullshit

[mint brook]

Apologies, not as in total toughness, but the ease at which it is regenerated

[misty nova]

And still not one shot

[mint brook]

As said, i will record later some footage

[rugged rock]

It’s regenerated that fast because it’s so small, if they couldn’t regenerate toughness fast they wouldn’t be a tank character, and just have a massive hitbox for no benefit

[mint brook]

Incase i am wrong, i will still post it and we can all point and laugh

[mint brook]

I dont want it gutted

[radiant raptor]

they also have a flat 40% damage reduction, base

so that helps

[mint brook]

But atm, if you go and test, ogryn can tank like 6 plague ogryns

[misty nova]

You can also just not get hit

[mint brook]

Which is pretty ridiculous

[minor sigil]

6 plague ogryns is never a thing you fight in-game

[mint brook]

I mean if you add that intop of it, you are basically in god mode

[minor sigil]

they're not balanced around several of them existing at once

they are balanced with the horde, specialists, elites and such other threats in mind

[misty nova]

You're always in god mode if you don't get hit

[mint brook]

This is not a realistic scenario on purpose

[misty nova]

[mint brook]

Bro plays 6d chess

[minor sigil]

so it's irrelevant at best to try to argue balance around it, is my point

[misty nova]

It's why majority of players think psyker is weaker than Arby's

Because they get hit as psyker

[mint brook]

Seriously tho, the toughness regen on ogryn is too much

[rugged rock]

Bosses aren’t a good metric to measure off of for anything other than builds made to fight bosses, they have very low attack speed

[minor sigil]

sure you can just M1 spam 6 pogryns in isolation, but then gunners exist and suddenly you have to do more than that

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[mint brook]

I woukd say he is weaker

[misty nova]

Nope

[acoustic dune]

god i love melee psycher

[radiant raptor]

you'll never change the mind of the number 1 arbites slanderer

[mint brook]

The only think that really props up psyjer to dumb levels is the match stick staff

[misty nova]

Psyke
Outfinesses
Outcleaves

[radiant raptor]

you cant fall for propaganda

[acoustic dune]

nothing is funner then playing mele psycher

[misty nova]

Outregen toughness

[rugged rock]

I wish they’d buff the other staffs, the fire staff is just so powerful compared to the others

[minor sigil]

I honestly believe he would suck if his toughness regen was worse, and its mostly just Confident Strike enabling such level of 'hyperaggressiveness'
You have to remember Ogryn plays a riskier role than the other classes

[mint brook]

Firestaff is straight op

[minor sigil]

he has 3x the hitbox size and has to stay in front

also by far the worst movement/dodging in the game

[acoustic dune]

well tbf its just flamer but with unlimited ammo

[rugged rock]

Dunno about OP but it’s definitely meta, and it’s been nerfed before it used to be worse

[acoustic dune]

which is insane

[misty nova]

See what I'm talking about

[mint brook]

The stagger needs to go on the primary, you basically run around in havoc 40 spamming it and not dying due to a combination of nodes and super strong stagger

[misty nova]

And people will still look at you and say that Arby's is stronger than psyker

😭

[mint brook]

I believe that and know it

Ogryn is my passion

[mint brook]

The regen is way too high for what it is, my ogryn rework noted how he plays a harder game due to his size

But i would have never wanted him to be THAT strong

But as i said, first rework the ither 3

Then balance around the whole set

[minor sigil]

I don't believe the problems lie in his tree mostly

[mint brook]

If we nerf ogryn now for the other 3, we will arrive at the same issue

[minor sigil]

Confident Strike is overtuned in its number

[full nebula]

Ogryn still has its weaknesses, gunners in the open can definitely be an issue, and disablers definitely can be too

[mint brook]

I mean

[rugged rock]

All ogryn weapons are also incredibly niche-y

You either get cleave or strike down with very little in between

[mint brook]

Iirc, bully club 3 + CS basically lets you turn off your brain

I woud agree on CS needing a nerf

And after that, maybe a timy BC 3 attack speed nerf

[full nebula]

It can, but if you're getting blasted by a wall of gunners, lot of times you still can't regen fast enough

[misty nova]

Brunt's Basher having a single target combo
PA Light Heavy
But just spamming heavies works just as well

[minor sigil]

a lot of ogryn's ranged weapons just suck too ngl

[misty nova]

💀

[minor sigil]

like it just genuniely feels terrible to use 90% of his ranged arsenal

[mint brook]

100% agree

Ranged weapon need damage buffs

I dont want ammo buffs

[full nebula]

Some ogryn weapons could go for some changes. Shovels definitely couldn't kill for some better clear since they can't hit 4 ogryns at once now

[minor sigil]

I think they also need speed buffs, the bracing speed is insanely slow

[mint brook]

Part of the fun on ogryn guns is supposed to be overwhelming firepower at an ammo tax

[minor sigil]

also the ripper gun's hipfire recoil is so absurd

the stubbers are unusable in hipfire entirely

[mild sparrow]

Heavy Stubber, kickback, GG, rumbler? These suck do they?

[rugged rock]

On havoc 40 ogryn’s guns feel completely useless but I may just be using them incorrectly

[full nebula]

Eh, comparatively to a lot human weapons kinda

[mint brook]

I would say even the achlys elephant gun needs a slight damage buff for how low the ammo is

Not big

But just a gentle nudge

[minor sigil]

thing is, every other class does better with guns than Ogryn does

if the Ogryn has to stop and pinpoint shoot a sniper 100m away, something is wrong

every other class does this 100x faster and better

[mint brook]

Ogryn needs to be, with psyker, the main damage pushers

[minor sigil]

I believe that's the intended design, his ranged potential is poor

[mint brook]

At least when looking at it from a lore perspective

[rugged rock]

Yes but take the grenade launcher for instance, hordes have 170% more hit mass so it barely staggers any of them even if you hit dead center in a group

[full nebula]

Ogryn can still absolutely wreck the game and come out on top over arbitrators, just depends on who is running what

[mint brook]

Yeah rumbler is stinky op

[misty nova]

Use Achlys Heavy Stubber with Opening Salvo
It can interrupt even reapers

[mint brook]

That thing makes havoc 40 obsolete for the most part

[sterile basalt]

I really do think
u should dig into DT source code for at least 40hr+ before considering any of these ideas for tree reworks

[minor sigil]

it's why Rumbler is dominant, it's got unique uses unseen with any other weapon, but Ogryn's other weapons just try to serve the same purpose that non-Ogryn weapons already do better

in my belief anyway

[mint brook]

I could agree if i had enough time, i would prefer someone with the knowledge to explain it to me instead

[full nebula]

Rumbler good, moved explosion radius talent so I can't get it with charge, is bad

[sterile basalt]

let's just take it to dms lol I don't wanna flood the chat with hardcore info

[mint brook]

As of now, zealot rework is drastically slowed down cause i got critical projects to work on like my own game.
So no offence right? But reading the whole code would be too much intop of the rest

[mint brook]

Aight

[misty nova]

I haven't pestered Cole in a while

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[misty nova]

https://x.com/realgummyhours/status/1948474081575157814?s=19

GummyPeachRings (@realgummyhours)

POV: You think you're safe on the other side of a pallet against The Ghoul.

X · Jul 24, 2025, 8:03 PM

[olive blaze]

[visual stream]

His mori makes me upset

[acoustic dune]

melk make me want to commit extreme atrocities

PREASE JUST GIVE ME A GOOD CURIO

[dapper tundra]

what blessings should I throw on this

Oh can't post images, Agripinna Shotgun

[misty nova]

Full Bore No Respite

[dapper tundra]

Danke

[misty nova]

The tooltip for no Respite won't tell you this

But it stacks up to 7 times against staggered enemies

So keep shooting until it dies

[north sedge]

it was cooler when it didn't have a cap

[acoustic dune]

what am i looking at

[hushed knoll]

Pulled meat

[hushed knoll]

Hi kayak Tony’s coin

[acoustic dune]

@violet hornet

is this pulled meat

[frosty herald]

It looks like sludge

[hushed knoll]

It’s cold leftover pulled chicken

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[acoustic dune]

is there a leakage of radiation?

wtf is this

[radiant raptor]

slenderman

[misty nova]

Scoutmaster

https://tenor.com/view/peak-peak-game-the-game-peak-scoutmaster-stfu-gif-9956518943887226671

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/slender-man-horror-no-face-hands-up-gif-16928564

[violet hornet]

looks like someone shaved a white shag carpet and put tomato sauce on it

[acoustic dune]

well you have it

stan cant still cook

[hushed knoll]

wtf

[hushed knoll]

HI KAYAK TONY’S COIN ILY

[solar gorge]

it's a good reason

[stray hamlet]

Gentlemen, does anyone here have recommendations for alternatives to Bolter or Flamer on Havoc? Stuck on Havoc 36 right now and it’s all the wide open spaces with Gunners and Reapers that are doing us in on these runs. Made it 90% of the way there 4x now and the lack of good ranged options has ended the run for me each time. Doing a standard chorus-crit build.

I was thinking of maybe experimenting with one of the Lasgun variants and just trying for a Crit
/stagger built lasgun and resigning myself to some Carpal tunnel.

[vast basin]

You can try laspistol with the full auto mod

Very ammo efficient and good damage all around with the exception of carapace

Also immune to suppression

[hard nexus]

las pistol with ghost

if ur running blazing piety, take infernus

[void bison]

woah what the heck

[misty nova]

Accatran shotgun
Load special shot
Shoot at the direction
Boom enemies suppressed for a few seconds

If you have the node right under Fotf you won't need to use fire shot

Might test more about it later

[broken turret]

in all honesty, i really don't get how to truly play zealot in higher tiers. none of the melee weapons seems to be that mind blowingly good, with an exception being the meme thammer

like every other class has a melee weapon that is mind bogglingly good for CC (which i struggle with the most)

Vet has power sword
Psyker has FGS
Ogryn is ogryn
Arbitrator has Smaul

[vast basin]

Have you tried crusher?

[broken turret]

not with the zealot

but part of the other reason why i don't like him is the lack of toughness regen

[hushed knoll]

LAMBDA WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR PFP

[broken turret]

i make mistakes a bit more often than i'd like and the amt of chip damage i get is just fuckass awful

[vast basin]

Lack of toughness gen? On zealot?

[broken turret]

without book, yeah.

[vast basin]

Second wind is the single best toughness talent in the game

[carmine falcon]

anyone hre picking up killing floor lmao

3

[misty nova]

Nah

[misty nova]

Listen mates
You gotta get more practice in

If you keep getting hit

[radiant raptor]

between the toughness from fury of the faithful + second wind you should almost always be full up

[misty nova]

Then you're not going to perform well overall

[carmine falcon]

dueling sword, knife, relic blade, crusher are all top tier

[radiant raptor]

if you're using piety you'll have fotf back extremely often

[carmine falcon]

zealot actually had good regen but u need to dodge a lot

15% toughness back on dodge

add 50% toughness back from spamming fotf

[broken turret]

is this "peak" Relic Blade?

[solar mountain]

the fact that he didn’t even mention crusher is criminal

[solar gorge]

I rarely ever change it but I was starting to get too big

[carmine falcon]

i run carapace unyielding but u can run flaks and maniacs

replace rampage with wrath for high havoc

[broken turret]

i'm not that good just yet

i'm trying to get out of damnation lmao

[carmine falcon]

oh this is fine then

relic blade destroys damnation

[solar gorge]

(and also some annoying mf kept tagging me with "summon the elector counts" in an another server)

[carmine falcon]

you will cleave the entire map

[broken turret]

alright. would purgation flamer work for a secondary?

[carmine falcon]

flamer is always strong but u may wanna also try a weapon that can sniper specials or using throwing knives

[broken turret]

current build

[vast basin]

If you are taking relic blade I would not take a flamer

[carmine falcon]

i recommend taking twbs and good balance for relic

[broken turret]

+5 stamina and +15 toughness curios (i'm broke and melk has nothing)

[carmine falcon]

u dont need the extra cdr on the right side at all

[vast basin]

Yeah for just damnation I would not go left side piety, and double CDR is unnecessary

[broken turret]

CDR? sorry, i'm not in the know with acronyms

[carmine falcon]

that's ability cooldown reduction

the stuff u took on bottom right helps reducing your cooldown

[broken turret]

gotcha gotcha

[carmine falcon]

not needed at all sicne u have invocation of death on left side

[broken turret]

i just copied this from a random gameslantern build from qlangq

he went with duelling IV and purgation, but i want to give relic blade a try

[vast basin]

Remove nodes below sustained assault>take twbs and good balance

I would also remove the one node from left side piety and switch it to right side

[broken turret]

okidoke, i'll give it a try

[vast basin]

I'm not a fan of the chorus upgrade nodes, I would just remove it and use the extra point for the good balance/twbs points

[solar mountain]

the damage one isn’t bad but I can understand using the points somewhere else

[carmine falcon]

give this a read

pretty helpful as a general guideline

[gray prairie]

chorus has a tax too

[visual stream]

"infested armor"

Does this mean they are the infested armor type or

[misty nova]

I'm getting conflicted info about it

Some say it is

[north sedge]

🤷‍♂️

[carmine falcon]

why did my comment get kek reacted

[tame sluice]

relic blade

[quick mountain]

i like the thammer funny damage but i hate its horde performance, so i've settled on using chaxe

which is weird cause apparently thammer should be doing better against hordes than chaxe

[misty nova]

Hammer base sweeps have 16 cleave and are uncapped

So while it's not astronomically good horde

[next trench]

this even is ROUGH, we had a bot and a pscyher that died 2 times

[misty nova]

You have the upper hand

[next trench]

relic blade carried

[misty nova]

Of being uncapped

Unlike Chaxes 8 cleave heavies on Mk4/lights on mk12

Paraphrasing Exhil
Chaxe is the Thunderhammer of flak/carapace

[nimble fiber]

[visual stream]

Ironhelm variant does much better horde vs. Crucis, not good in havoc or mortis though

[quick mountain]

yeah maybe i just need to max my crucis or something

[stray hamlet]

I like the shotguns but really don't care for the ammo economy. My biggest problem is just rooms full of shooters so spread out I'm still getting chewed apart regardless of which set I try to eliminate first. Maybe I just need to bring a Vet standard. I'm not sure yet.

[stray hamlet]

I'll be giving this a try, we'll see what happens. I hate to give up my Flamer but the damn thing can only reach so far 😢

[north sedge]

Just don't bring a las rifle they're pretty bad on zealot

[plush estuary]

@hard nexus

I was recycling 60k scrap, and I cancled the craft'

[hard nexus]

LMAO

[plush estuary]

almost crashed

[scenic drift]

dodge more, kill more

[scenic drift]

Relic Blade is a game changer.

[jagged cradle]

what even is that game about

[plush estuary]

factory

[jagged cradle]

yeah?

[carmine falcon]

the factory must grow

[ornate bone]

Thought it was Fallout

[misty nova]

Capitalism

https://tenor.com/view/desiler-giga-chad-gif-9574825124538696572

Ok imagine a base builder game

That's it
That's all I got

💀

[carmine falcon]

you tried king

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/609517645384908801/1125489922837581946/giphy.gif

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/i-summon-blue-eyes-white-dragon-madden-giferator-madden-giferator-yugioh-gif-6591472838036839997

[frosty herald]

you need to build a factory to build resources to build a rocket to the moon

raw material is gathered crafted into refined material

refined materials are refined into other materials etc etc

[misty nova]

Astroneer

https://tenor.com/view/astroneer-trolling-little-trolling-little-we-gif-20574327

[lunar fable]

astroneer

[scenic drift]

basebuilding: the space program

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-fur-kawaii-sniff-canine-gif-20552016

[visual stream]

Also describes Rimworld

[lunar fable]

[misty nova]

It's out of sync

😭

Lemme scroll up

There

[scenic drift]

Rimworld is basebuilding: the spaceship now

[visual stream]

I've only done one playthrough where I got a decent way into it and stopped playing regretfully

[sullen forge]

@mighty root @median steeple

[visual stream]

I think right after I made a killbox I stopped playing

[misty nova]

Do they still send waves when you're almost taking off

[void bison]

I've never built the spaceship but the grav ships are cool

[median steeple]

I'VE BEEN FIGHTING SERBIANS AND ARMENIANS FOR 2 DECADES

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

[median steeple]

GUHHHHHHHHHHH

[scenic drift]

Why are you focusign on Armenians and Serbs, when Seljuks on your border 💀

[median steeple]

They were rebelling

waiting for the Seljuks to collapse since they're fighting a civil war

[sullen forge]

Just fucking KILL THEM

[median steeple]

I won and executed all of them

[scenic drift]

https://tenor.com/view/flag-byzantine-greece-konstantinople-gif-16677118

[median steeple]

also just finished the legacy of rome legend

so now I have claims on so much shit

[lunar fable]

silent trapper behind a pack of bulwarks goes crazy

[frosty herald]

cant you become immortal in crusader kings 3 because of satan?

[normal shell]

@hollow bison thank god my friend and i could follow an experienced player around

we almost wiped on the three dogs

[carmine falcon]

why does bro have no items

[normal shell]

i'm scared to ask

[minor sigil]

this cant be allowed to continue

[stone fern]

AVE

[stone fern]

one day brother

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/vilitch-warhammer-total-war-fantasy-tzeentch-gif-26370107

me and my homunculus against the world

[median steeple]

I hate them

stupid chudlings

[scenic drift]

https://tenor.com/view/heretic-heresy-warhammer-40k-gif-14404484

[solar gorge]

I don't like when Villich say "Thomin wants you"

Never clicking on that mf ever again

disbanded

[misty nova]

The Muhfuh from extraordinary kids

Wait did I get the right name

[wary lagoon]

Chainswords worth using as a zealot?

[obsidian prairie]

If you want to m1 spam for funny fast trash clear

[hushed knoll]

Lambda ily

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[misty nova]

Yes

CRIT build

Xiiig shred wrath and you just M1 spam

If anything big shows up

Rev chastise tech

[wary lagoon]

What does the build look like?
I also don't have any idea how any of the tech works. I still have less than a hundred games as zealot.

[misty nova]

The rev chastise tech

[scenic drift]

wait, what

FS what the fuck is that shit?

[misty nova]

You rev it up
Attack the enemy
Right after the initial hit lands
You chastise

It'll buff the whole sawing

And it'll stagger human sized enemies around you

So you have a safe sawing

[solar gorge]

or you can swap to crucis

[misty nova]

Stamina boost

There's like

2 on the zealots tree

I think

[misty nova]

Do it hordes

[solar gorge]

yes

yes it does

[median steeple]

@hard nexus have you tried the new siege rework

[mild sparrow]

There are worse tax nodes on the tree tbh lol

[scenic drift]

That doesn't make me feel better. 😢

[misty nova]

Don't look at the node right under fury of the faithful

https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911

[mild sparrow]

Absolute peak node right there

[minor sigil]

what the frick is this

[mild sparrow]

A hammer

If you press the button, it becomes one of those one arm bandit gambling machines

[misty nova]

https://youtu.be/cYxIe7T8ZKA?si=krk0xf-YQZ6O3BJs&utm_source=MTQxZ

"We also have a cleave through hordes variety if you prefer that"

[hushed knoll]

@acoustic dune crunchy ramen cashew and vinegar coleslaw

So good

[minor sigil]

only now finding out that marking a target increases fury of the faithful's range up to 21 meters to it

and automatically tracks it

genuinely what the heck

why is that not explained anywhere

[visual stream]

Coleslaw mentioned

Life expectancy dropped by two days

[misty nova]

That looks

Acceptable

Sort of

Is that rice?

[hushed knoll]

wtf

[north sedge]

you just have to be targeting it with reticle

[hushed knoll]

It’s uncooked instant ramen, cabbage, cashews, vinegar

Carrots

[hushed knoll]

HELLO KAYAK TONY’S COIN

[misty nova]

Then it's no longer acceptable

[hushed knoll]

Of course it is

@north sedge you can’t use the saluting face anymore

[hard nexus]

noh

i need to

have u?

[median steeple]

no....

It seems cool

tho a lot LL lost siege attacker

[sullen forge]

Holy bleak I just got hit with the hardest wave of sleepiness ever

[fallen temple]

does anyone know if the assault chainaxe triggers the agitators rend voicelines

you know when he's like

"YOUR WEAKLING FLESH IS NAUGHT!! NAUGHT!!!"

[frosty herald]

eepy

[misty nova]

Every chain weapon triggers Agitators/Fanatic

[fallen temple]

it triggers on fanatic too?

what do they say?

[misty nova]

Something about the masters roar

Not going to fully remember

[fallen temple]

im pretty sure thats agitator youre thinking abt

i dont think fanatic has any since he has flamer voice lines

[misty nova]

Yeah but fanatic has rending lines

[fallen temple]

i dont think so but

[hard nexus]

that’s cool

[fallen temple]

ill play and see

[hard nexus]

is the siege rework out? or still in testing

no it’s not out because all the infantry still have ass ladders

i really want us to put artilllery on the walls

[median steeple]

you know how you switch betas

you gotta do that

https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/76-total-war-warhammer-iii-siege-proving-grounds

[pure tree]

Biden..........

[visual stream]

What is a rending voice line

For chain weapons?

[misty nova]

You get a kill streak with a chain weapon

And your character says a line

It's unique

[visual stream]

Ohhh I was about to say

[misty nova]

"Rend! Tear! Ahahaha"- Agitator

[visual stream]

Usually kill streaks just do dialogue between two people

But I've never used chain weapons on my zealot

Another excuse to try evis

[misty nova]

Then you have Fanatics flamer

"Burn"

Or whatever they say

[visual stream]

Flamer stinky inky

[misty nova]

And judges are Thunderhammer related

Something something holy storm

Or was it sacred thunder

[visual stream]

A shame I like thammer as a fanatic stan

[tame sluice]

Yeah loose cannon vet has similar exclusive lines for headshotting things

[hard nexus]

yeah i just haven’t tried yet

i’ll try it when i get home

yet another elspeth campaign calls my name

arbaal is fun but stupidly easy

[tame sluice]

I like to imagine that each of the classes 3 personalities lean towards one of the 3 paths on their skill tree

[hard nexus]

elspeth is also really strong but nowhere on the level of arbaal lmfao

[ripe quest]

They're excellent crowd damage weapons. You'll notice some issues for single target, particularly Carapace. Works pretty well for any core talent outside of Shroudfield due to mechanical issues.

[hard nexus]

probably gonna do VH/VH

[visual stream]

Absolutely

[hard nexus]

chainswords specifically, the one handed, work well, and have really good horde clear with a cleave blessing, but chastise is essentially necessary to make up for their otherwise poor single target rev issues

eviscerators are better in most aspects than chainswords, aside from mobility i think, and are also absolutely good choices, however they struggle with denser ogryn packs due to relying on revs to stagger ogryns

[visual stream]

I feel like I see that consistently in the different characters' personalities on every class

[hard nexus]

fanatic is probably meant to lean towards martyrdom

[visual stream]

Cadian vet absolutely makes sense to have VoC, especially with the VA's performance

[hard nexus]

chastise too actually

[visual stream]

I would've figured that'd be agitator since agitator talks about flagellation

[hard nexus]

actually i think fanatic is just goated at everything

all of fanatics lines are peak

save me insane scottish woman,,, save me,,,

[visual stream]

FotF fanatic lines are awesome

[hard nexus]

true

[visual stream]

The "Blood for the emperor" line solidified me falling in love with this game the first time I heard it

[hard nexus]

“BLOOD FOR THE GOD EMPEROR, SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE” is such an incredible line

whoever thought of it should geniunely get a bonus

because i want those kinds of lines used more in 40k as a whole

[visual stream]

Three more months vacation to the writer who made it

[hard nexus]

chaos worms its way into many by masquerading as their own will

[tame sluice]

It's because that zealot is genuinely under the influence of Khorne

Professional Veteran also sees Khorne (and Nurgle) in their dreams

[ripe quest]

Yeah it's pretty much just
Do you want stellar crowd damage, at the cost of single target? Chainsword.
Do you want stellar armored damage and anti-rager, at the cost of crowd damage? Chaxe.
Do you want generalist performance, at the cost of it only being above average for Unyielding? Eviscerator.

[hard nexus]

and that line is such a good representation of khorne’s influence subtly taking someone ever

[hard nexus]

i’d say that 3rd bit only applies to mk3, mk15 has incredible unyielding damage

[ripe quest]

It's meant to be read as above average for Unyielding, not above average for Unyielding. Wasn't sure how to word it without a longer message.

[visual stream]

I really like the subtle things you can see with chaos corruption

So peak

[ripe quest]

Mk III also has pretty competitive Unyielding damage, just isn't the Mk XV.

[minor sigil]

I wish I saw more thammer fotf zealots

[hard nexus]

i think the idea of khornate influencing a character, but said character maintaining their loyalty to the emperor, is an incredibly cool concept

a zealot’s faith being so strong they can (at least subconsciously) be empowered, or at least, tinged by a chaos god, and use that power to kill even more for the god emperor

[ripe quest]

Pretty sure it competes with Chaxe still.

[minor sigil]

barely any zealot in H40 plays FOTF at all

[hard nexus]

i do !

[hard nexus]

real!!!

[visual stream]

50% max toughness and iframes and movement on demand

As well as a nuke for your next melee

[hard nexus]

however in the same vein, a character thinking they were fighting purely for the emperor and slowly turning to chaos is also incredibly cool

[visual stream]

Definitely better than chorus with a team who won't utilize it well

[ripe quest]

Shroudfield does scale better as a damage ult for the commonly used H40 weapons, but also people run it to be dumb and smelly and ignore enemy aggro

[hard nexus]

that single voice line is such good potential for a character’s story and development

[north sedge]

chorus is pretty valuable in havoc, it's auric and below where things get fuzzy because it depends on the team

[visual stream]

I've debated before doing a tier list of how likely each personality in the game would be to fall to chaos in one way or another

[tame sluice]

in havoc I would rather have a 4th teammate than a chorus user tbh

[minor sigil]

that's what I'm saying

chorus users hope chorus will play the game for them

[visual stream]

Fanatic is a tough one just because of that voice line and also the hab block flamer incident

I think unfortunately they wouldn't recognize the taint within them and be able to correct it

[median steeple]

truth emoji wave

[ripe quest]

I'd rather have a 4 stack of Chorus users than a single Ogryn or Arbites player

[tame sluice]

4 stack of chorus users

[north sedge]

but then how would i steal your toughness regen

[tame sluice]

try to get through the mission with as little damage as possible

[misty nova]

Nah fuck that
4 chorus user
1 HP through the whole mission

[north sedge]

stagger the skills one by one

[gaunt roost]

we’re getting a dlc soon where we play as grendyl and fight slaaneshi nobles

[primal scroll]

Id rather not, tyvm 😂🫠💀

[mighty root]

I do

[misty nova]

Can't go below 1hp during the effect of chorus

[mighty root]

Judge is khorne

100%

Bully and cutthroat even say there’s something wrong with him

[north sedge]

fanatic has fotf line that directly references khorne

[mighty root]

True

[minor sigil]

blood for the god emperor, skulls for the golden throne!!!!!!!!

[mighty root]

Judge is more visceral

He literally stays screaming

Mid fight he just starts frothing

What’s his one line

YOUR DEATH IS OFFERING YOUR DAMMNATION ETERNAL

[median steeple]

Maybe that's something to do with general story telling about the zealots and imperium at large

Nah it can't be

[void bison]

grim dawn grim dawn grim dawn grim dawn

grim dawn!!!!!

[visual stream]

I dunno about this one, but then again I don't extensively know the hidden lore of each character

On a surface level, nothing really stands out too much other than being passionate, which all zealots are supposed to be

Maybe trying to shoulder the burden of being judge, jury, and executioner and going too far? I could see that tainting

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-judy-executioner-hot-fuzz-gif-20582376

[hushed knoll]

Hi Exhillious

[hushed knoll]

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-rivals-the-punisher-judge-jury-executioner-frank-castle-gif-12623041209064802626

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-punisher-landshark-marvel-rivals-jeff-the-landshark-gif-13637800909223292296

Hey uh

Any updates on the arbitrator one shot earlier talk or?

[north sedge]

?

[misty nova]

Just another "Arby's is mid moment"

Nothing new

[north sedge]

is true they take too long to die, the best classes die near instantly

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[ripe quest]

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[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/preach-brother-yes-say-it-sing-gif-7627082

[spare dome]

is this a hyperlink

[ripe quest]

base64 of a square that I copy pasted into a base64 encoder

[royal vortex]

it's a hypolink

[spare dome]

but why

[copper hawk]

[[HYPERLINK BLOCKED]]

[jagged cradle]

have you played slop honor yet

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/spamton-plush-pour-milk-slam-against-wall-loud-thud-gif-26707601

[copper hawk]

Yah

[jagged cradle]

it’s pretty bad

[copper hawk]

Y

[jagged cradle]

fun character but so fun when she gets an extra two health bars because there’s 4 every match

[copper hawk]

Like it always is w new heros

Still think pirate is the worst

If they gank u in the stance heavy feint to bait out light attacks, or wait

Free parries and revenge

If ur using an all block hero then abuse it - blocked hits drop her from her stance

[jagged cradle]

being ganked by two is actually awful if one sits in stance i can’t almost never punish it

[copper hawk]

Dont forget undodgeables

[median steeple]

no VG slander when talking about new characters? nature is healing.

[craggy jackal]

vg was an abomination for sure

[jagged cradle]

undodgables kinda help with her stance but she has crushing counters

[copper hawk]

Vg ??

[copper hawk]

Only on one side

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-varangian-varangian-guard-turtz-franklinturtz-gif-6807305688011951628

[copper hawk]

Ooohg

Lil screamer

[craggy jackal]

That’s not how the char works

[median steeple]

Varangian

[jagged cradle]

bp can’t even flip her counter poke which is intresting

[copper hawk]

Right stance has crushing counters on every side and hyper armor heavies

Bp can flip her poke

If the poke is buffered he can flip it

Like the saying goes

[craggy jackal]

That’s true

[copper hawk]

Everything But A Guardbreak™

[median steeple]

you can light GBs on reaction with her

iirc

[jagged cradle]

also i played a pk match

super fun 10/10 would recommend

[craggy jackal]

In the same way you can heavy on reaction to gb in bp stance

It is possible

Are the vast majority of people in your games doing it?

Probably not

[median steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/1m91sx5/you_can_light_a_gb_on_reaction_as_virtuosa/ no I mean this shit is actually piss easy

[mighty root]

aids

[median steeple]

Pulled a muscle in my foot

kms

Why is the audio always bugged from that reddit

[pale spindle]

Sword game?????????

[mighty root]

Let’s remove glads stam punish

[jagged cradle]

that all being said she’s fun and i like her fashion

[craggy jackal]

open post
tagged “misinformation, see comments”

[median steeple]

She has cool fashion

oh they updated it

womp womp

[craggy jackal]

It’s the same reaction check as bp slash when they made it 100ms vuln

[jagged cradle]

i have hope they’ll balance her to a good degree and make her a fun and engaging character to play and fight because ubi is a good company

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[craggy jackal]

Do not pull up the timeline for enhanced external dodge attacks existing on rat

[median steeple]

another assassin rework has hit live servers

[copper hawk]

I honestly think she's fine

[median steeple]

Complex characters should be stronger than non complex ones

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-morgan-bayharbour-butcher-knife-gif-13863408

[copper hawk]

She does a lot of damage on her finishers and her heavies are fairly slow

[mighty root]

It doesn’t matter raider it’s still solid

[copper hawk]

And she has vuln when she leaves her stances

[craggy jackal]

Complex chars in fh

[copper hawk]

Idk if that's intended or not tho

[median steeple]

I haven't touched FH since April

maybe I should

[mighty root]

Eat sleep stunning tap repeat

[copper hawk]

Im p sure on every character if ur gb'd after you feint but before the feint ani is finished u can still counter gb

[mighty root]

I haven’t touched fh since affara or whatever

[craggy jackal]

Feinted attacks have ~200ms gb vuln

Not a lot of exceptions

That I can think of, anyway

[mighty root]

I was going strong into marching fire and jorms release

[median steeple]

I hope the new Wulin is cool

and not boring

[mighty root]

Then I was on and off

[craggy jackal]

It’ll be Lu bu

I hope hes epic

[mighty root]

Wait was zhan hu released after jrom?

[craggy jackal]

Yes

[mighty root]

Yeah that’s when I stopped

[copper hawk]

Think the most problematic launch of a new char had to be pirate tbh

In terms of dlc char

She had literally everything and tons of damage

[hexed igloo]

They should put out a char in a wheelchair

[mighty root]

Pirate was the lowest hanging fruit

Stupid character

[craggy jackal]

Most of the dlc chars have been problematic in one way or another

[copper hawk]

An unblockable soft feintable 50/50 hyper armor attack from neutral that's 533 ms or 600 i 4get is absurd

[craggy jackal]

Only one that didn’t catch on was sohei

[mighty root]

I hate for honor Reddit

[hexed igloo]

I hate for honour

[copper hawk]

Sohei got fucked w his launch

[median steeple]

I just hope the new wulins armour isn't ass

[copper hawk]

Permanent frame disadvantage

No damage, next to no unblockable pressure

[mighty root]

Erm nerf glad and hito because I fucking suck and can’t dodge

Atleast i don’t play orochi

[craggy jackal]

Glad has his stamina damage back as a temporary change

[mighty root]

Good

[jagged cradle]

warlord who?

[mighty root]

Thank god

[craggy jackal]

Skewer is still 60 something damage with a wall though

[mighty root]

Don’t get deflected

[craggy jackal]

Lol

[median steeple]

They're doing Aztec Batman with TwoFace as Cortez

[craggy jackal]

Someone missed the tg

[mighty root]

Oh yeah I saw the deflection change

It’s terrible

Awful

Ubi is literally monkeys on typewriters

Congratulations you made a good thing once In awhile

Now replicate it

No ubi don’t buff warlord again

[hexed igloo]

Which one was the roman, make his "INCREDIBLIUS" quieter, hit his mains where it hurts

[craggy jackal]

They killed my fish 💔

[stray summit]

God bless them for making it temporary

stamina drain is such dog ass

[mighty root]

No ubi don’t take away hitos hyper armor again

[craggy jackal]

True

[mighty root]

Centurion

[hexed igloo]

I've heard enough buff highlanders heavies

[craggy jackal]

Don’t you remember when parrying was a 7x multiplier to stamina drain

The horrors of early fh

[stray summit]

they also made her zone bash do 1 dmg so it can kill minions now. My queen can clear minion lane

[mighty root]

Remember when you got a gb off parry

[craggy jackal]

Which was worse than non gb punishes unless you were next to a ledge

[median steeple]

the only thing I miss from old for honor was the graphics

idk what they did to the engine but holy shit the game is so washed out now

[mighty root]

I’m sad i can’t carry over my Xbox stuff

[craggy jackal]

I’ve been there since beta and kept tabs on the game even since quitting it’s been through a lot

[craggy jackal]

Not yet

(Or ever)

[mighty root]

Guh

[craggy jackal]

There are talks for cross progression

[mighty root]

Yeah thank you ubi

[craggy jackal]

But they are just talks

Don’t expect anything

[mighty root]

Imagine a good and unique idea like for honor but your devs are ubi

I hate the French

[craggy jackal]

They made exp 33 though

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-urge-gif-6840622395128066412

[stray summit]

New hero be like

[mighty root]

Back again to the monkey on a typewriter

Sure it’s peak

One time thing

[craggy jackal]

Fh spectator view

[median steeple]

You can X react all you want but you can't deny that marching fire fucked a lot of maps this is the old version

New

Brown

[mighty root]

The poop filter

Wow

I thought I was crazy

[median steeple]

Some maps look better now like Citadel

but a lot got fucked with marching fire

[stray summit]

post for honor fashion

[mighty root]

I love shaolin

He was my favorite

I hate jj

If you play him die

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-monkey-mad-angry-gif-15404825

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-gif-15840537734980151180

[craggy jackal]

Pot calling kettle black

[mighty root]

ME AND MY MONKEY

[stray summit]

No shaolin requires execution and is fun to fight

jj

abominable

[craggy jackal]

Shaolin post rework and pre chain off whiff removal and fun to fight

Two things that have never been said before

[mighty root]

He got reworked?

[stray summit]

shaolin is like top 3 best designed heroes, personality, fun, complex,

[craggy jackal]

Sweep is now a feintable bash

Top UB no longer exists

Stance lights 500ms all directions

[mighty root]

I hate berserker too heavies

Things I hate in fh

Orochi top light

Warden

[stray summit]

berserker mentioned

[craggy jackal]

Roach double lights all directions now

[mighty root]

Highlander

[stray summit]

81 reps bersekrer

[craggy jackal]

Warden bash after heavy

[stray summit]

Warmonger lights aren't enhanced

[mighty root]

A good berserker is aids

[stray summit]

kenker

[mighty root]

What’s happened to kensie and raider?

[stray summit]

not much

[craggy jackal]

Raider lost stun on tap

[stray summit]

still the reliable old dogs of war we remember them

[craggy jackal]

Kensei soft feints sped up

[stray summit]

soft feint side heavy my beloved

[craggy jackal]

No meta defining changes

[mighty root]

Thank god

My 2 goats

[stray summit]

raider needs a dmg buff i thinky

just a smidge

on the tap

[mighty root]

Dude i love unlocking my zone with raider

I love 2v1s

Please eat my unblockable yum

[craggy jackal]

The humble dodge

[mighty root]

You act like some people know how to gank

[craggy jackal]

Any real fh player does

Might take more timing with pin changes

[stray summit]

tfw the foolish fools try to dodge attack my top unblockable

little do those foolish fools fooling around know, I have a soft feint hyper armored heavy

[plush estuary]

this is so sad

[mighty root]

Tbh when I do fight them it’s more fun for me

[mighty root]

Where ur cool knife

Anyone remember revenge builds

And the immortal berserker

Or warden and nobu instakill bug

[stray summit]

I rember when oathbreaker got nerfed

[craggy jackal]

It was every character just easiest on warden

[mighty root]

Release warmonger wasn’t fun

Or gryph

[stray summit]

That the old immortal berserker or the new immortal berserker

[mighty root]

I liked bp

[mighty root]

Old

There’s a new?

[stray summit]

There was a testing ground

for new berserker feats

[craggy jackal]

Smartest feat designers

[stray summit]

one feat was unkillable for 20sec

[mighty root]

[stray summit]

just straight up

pop it and kill the commander just like that

[craggy jackal]

T4 active your health cannot go below 1 for 20s

[mighty root]

Hmmm yes very balanced

I liked kenseis unblockable t4

[stray summit]

would you believe thats not the worst TG they put out lately

there's the deflect TG

Where deflects were omnidirectional when you dodged forward

[mighty root]

Still hate the catapult nerf

[stray summit]

that was amusing to think that would ever make it

[mighty root]

Yeah I saw

Terrible

[stray summit]

easy bake deflects

[mighty root]

They need to fire their playtesters or something

[craggy jackal]

Playtesters don’t test the tg just the new heroes

[mighty root]

Why does ubi unironically listen to Reddit stone brains

[stray summit]

Tfw you ledge a guy to end the game and then that guy immediately gets put on your team

[mighty root]

I loved ledging people

Especially as raider

Raider

Is truly legendary

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/for-honor-raider-for-honor-slav-dance-funny-gif-17491753

[quick mountain]

would zealot knives still be best blitz if the pathing wasnt so scuffed?

[stray summit]

prob not

[mighty root]

Yeah

[stray summit]

stop

[craggy jackal]

Immo nades are good

Knives are also good

[stray summit]

stop disagreeing with me

im right in every matter

[misty nova]

Would compete with bangs

[quick mountain]

figured

really hoping for that rework now, i cant make it work

[spare dome]

Please, nobody here bangs.

[stray summit]

I bang

[spare dome]

and u stealth

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flashbang-gif-25002731

[stray summit]

I INFILTRATE

[spare dome]

whatever maaaaan

[stray summit]

i do not shroudfield

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/liz-bangs-kroll-show-publizity-hair-gif-10161324

[mighty root]

It allows you to run flamer or bolter because it’s your specialist killing tool

[lunar fable]

I'm on team knife

🔪

[stray summit]

bangs let you run bistol or revolver cuz its your horde CC tool

[mighty root]

And you don’t take nades so it leaves them for oggy

[quick mountain]

flamer

has been a miss for me

[stray summit]

I will take nades fuck you oggy

[quick mountain]

im assuming it gets better havoc

the same way purga does

[misty nova]

Well those weapons scale with density

And fire as a dot is way better than soulblaze

[quick mountain]

oh fr? huh

[misty nova]

Yeah

[quick mountain]

does throwing knife body shot snipers? im noticing at a certain distance it's not really efficient to use knives on specials unless ur goated at aiming them

im not sure if enemies in havoc have different hp values or something

like it's clearly working in auric psyk

[spare dome]

at a certain point in havocs yeah you gotta go for headshots

their economy is excellent though so needing two knives for one kill still isnt an awful trade

[quick mountain]

guess i really just gotta practice the aim

never been good with projectile dropoff weapons

[spare dome]

you basically just aim slightly above the head for anything within 30m

its only beyond that where you gotta learn it

60m or so is my confirmed record

[quick mountain]

yeah i think my problem's trying to force it past 30m

guess i can run bolter anyway since im also running RB

in pubs are zealots expected to run chorus on havoc?

[misty nova]

Not really

Shooters aren't terminators anymore

Still comfortable pick

https://youtube.com/shorts/_elN2hpUj7o?si=Yu8X7YeB3KJOVBSn

[visual stream]

You mean as much of a terminator?

[wary lagoon]

I've sunk 200k dockets getting melk to get rid of 1k dreg shooter task and he keeps replacing it with do 8 missions or pick up SIXTEEN (16) scrips/grims

I have resigned myself to just... Not doing my zealot's weeklies.

[visual stream]

I've paid attention to my weeklies other than rerolling grim/scrip missions exactly zero times ever and I have plenty of melkbux

I wouldn't worry about it too much

[minor sigil]

using thammer's been painful

shit struggles with killing unarmored, flak and maniac too much

[hexed igloo]

Thammer is ass bc I don't like using it

[minor sigil]

I like using it

just uh, damage sucks

[hexed igloo]

Everything is ass except for evis

[spare talon]

meanwhile dclaw dealing 70 dmg on a light to flak

[minor sigil]

damage sucks until I Thrust + FOTF

but it's ironic that it's lame on hordes

[hexed igloo]

I feel like thammer should do like nothing to flesh and hit flak/carapace the hardest

Blunt force trauma is like what you use against armor

[craggy jackal]

Blunt force trauma famously ineffective against bare skin

[misty nova]

[jagged cradle]

give thammer power cycle

problem solved

[hexed igloo]

Turn thammer into a comically large squeak hammer

[minor sigil]

this

[spare dome]

Please.
It can only do that on a strikedown.
Heavy strikedown.

[spare talon]

id have to dig

[spare talon]

but i have a video somewhere where the last flak shooter in a group i was killing with the dclaw when i used it a lot was still a live, so i just light attacked the turned around
realized i didnt kill him cuz my dopamine kill tracker didnt tick up by one, so i did it again
then again, and again, and again, and at a certain point i stop turning around and just start swinging at him one at a time just in sheer awe of how little damage im doing

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

Been in this same situation before

Y couldnt u use ur pter powarz to make the dclaw adms better

Instead of buffin an already good taxe ,,

Z.i.g.h.

Corruption even in mh gnarptide ,,

[desert vessel]

gotta say, taxe is kinda crazy to use

like

[plush estuary]

2

[desert vessel]

you use it and if you spam m1 the taxe just behaves like an adhd monkey

[copper hawk]

Byeah

[minor sigil]

trying to kill shit
teammate kills them first because of my slow ass attack speed
gain 0 toughness

[jagged cradle]

i was able to clutch a train mission with taxe it’s definitely overpowered

[desert vessel]

mk7 taxe?

[fathom helm]

Zealots if they could make custom weapons. Quad chainsaws with flamethrowers.

[desert vessel]

do you just spam m1 on taxe?

[craggy jackal]

For single target yeah

Hordes is pa h1

[minor sigil]

never used taxe on zealot but on arby I just spam lights for hordes and hope BM does the work

and then heavy spam for single target

[jagged cradle]

@hard nexus

[hard nexus]

hi

what’s up

[jagged cradle]

oh whoops the video didn’t send

[hard nexus]

true

[lunar fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/347254691966615552/1374212625885564978/4_of_them.gif

[lunar fable]

[hollow field]

-Vets, shooting everything the zealot is trying to kill a moment before he reaches it-

[wary lagoon]

Eh. If stealing kills is the team's problem instead of trying to stay alive, that's good enough.

[craggy jackal]

stolen kills do relate to surviability

[lunar fable]

what happened to my smellot

[acoustic dune]

That's the priest from berserk

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-heretic-heresy-mad-gif-14026553

[median steeple]

bug coded

[gaunt roost]

the humble shredder:

[frosty herald]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GwiAai1aoAAkxS8.gif

[exotic oyster]

i finally got the godroll flame thrower

now the question is do i use relic blade + flamer, relic + boltgun or relic + shotgun lmao

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/crafting-dondoko-island-hammer-dondoko-bear-gif-6456023839765636148

[daring swan]

hey does anyone think they can help me get the shocking stuff penance

[hushed knoll]

Blab

[frosty crescent]

ironhelm combos?

[desert vessel]

go to mortis trials, on one corner to the right or left the medstation theres a box near a railing, you can park your zealot there, survive till wave 3, let the bots die, around wave 3 a horde is gonna charge, just block them at the box railing area till the horde gets big enough, they cant get behind you over there till the horde builds up, use stun grenades and a fully levelled flamer once its big enough and you should get it

[misty nova]

Special heavy ad infinitum

Special push heavy for single target

Push heavy
Not push attack heavy

If you don't want to special heavy ad infinitum for hordes you can loop light heavy

[jagged cradle]

i can’t believe you stole the image that i stole

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-frog-the-fog-fog-fog-consume-fog-is-going-to-consume-us-gif-7275883596114669957

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-beelzebufo-frog-eat-dinosaur-gif-26026660

[craggy viper]

Why does every build I see take martyrdom instead of blazing piety for thunder hammer? Wouldn't a crit bonk be better than just bigger bonk?

[wanton raft]

can anyone tell me the best combat axe

[acoustic dune]

this

https://tenor.com/view/frog-attacker-jumpscare-frog-jumpscare-boo-gif-1410553638666856648

[wanton raft]

https://tenor.com/view/uppercut-bebop-deadlock-bebop-uppercut-punch-gif-1834091440046715376

[acoustic dune]

flat damage is better then leaving it to rng

[drifting wolf]

rashad, the zealot compendia in the channel shows the recommended perks/blessings for it as well

[wanton raft]

how to i find this compendium

[drifting wolf]

pins

[mild sparrow]

THammer has very low crit chance

[pulsar osprey]

So, anyone able to help get just a flesh wound?

[violet hornet]

Fotf gives you a guaranteed crit on activation for bonking big targets

[north sedge]

Crit hammer is not good, hammer likes straight power so you take either marty or ij

[fervent field]

Btw i noticed almost noone using chainaxe. It sucks or smh?

[mild sparrow]

Harder to use mostly

[north sedge]

It's a solid anti elite weapon, especially mark 4

[ivory canyon]

Just clunky af but actually pretty decent on zealot or vet.

[fervent field]

Thnx

I'm gonna try it if see decent one

[analog python]

Sure I can help, someone helped me get it last week on a Rolling Steel mission