#zealot-class
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Honestly arbites charge is only worse than chorus support wise because the yellow stuff
like turning off the game for 8 seconds in an action game shouldve got shot down immediately in the cutting room floor
but apparently not
I agree chorus isn't fun
It's bordering smyker but at least you can't spam it like smite
No because I believe the absolute best value you can provide to your team in this game is by killing enemies that are an immediate threat to them
Rather than simply delaying the problem and hoping they can deal with it while the enemy is stunned, or waiting for that enemy to be a problem again later
I don't hate the concept but the execution could use some improvements. It does feel less engaging to sit though the entire channel vs just using a quick burst or two to make room / shield an ally
The thing is if I know the capabilities of my team, it's not a hope
It's a guarantee
Smite W

Hey I don't need to know the capabilities of my team to do that with good abilities

You're also not stuck looking at your targets and moving at a snail's pace with chorus vs smite
Black and white thinking moment
Yeah it is
Mfw every activated ability in the game is just "do more damage"
Because talking about Chorus means comparing one of the worst abilities in the game to the leagues of good ones that do what it does but better in every way
Actually one thing Chorus doesn't get hopelessly outclassed at that I find quite helpful as someone who plays too much Veteran is boss stagger
The only time Chaos Spawn are actually easy to headshot and kill is if they get stunlocked, and that usually only happens with dog Arbites around or Chorus
does anyone else keep getting error 2014? and getting disconnected from the server mid match
true put it on a charge based system
Honestly I'd like to see it do some damage per pulse, apply stacks of a unique gold fire dot, or some armor shatter while it's on if they're not gonna let you use weapons during
Having the relic blade heat meter but for chorus would be really cool imo
I liked it a lot for the goop havocs, it let you push past enemies without killing them and making those damn puddles. Got my team through many highly populated choke points with that without having to wait for every enemy to die and their puddles to evaporate
Accept it
I kinda like the l4d roots of having killing be a tool to getting you to extraction quickly, unnecessary fights are discouraged there
the darktiders have forgotten the way of the stagger tank
they must all play 10000 hours of Ironbreaker in High Level Vermintide 2
I play stagger tanks as frontliners in this game
I just do it with Arbites and Ogryn
That's because the best stagger is death
Is that "174" your ping
yes
we playing in Germany
So uh... with all 3 5% toughness damage reduction nodes that means I have 1x0.85x0.85 toughness damage taken with benediction, right?
I know that doesn't add up much against enduring faith with benediction and stalwart... but from what I did with my calculator I got 27.09375% toughness damage taken with those buffs up, and 20.32% toughness damage if I had good balance up as well... which means that I could probably not toughness tank a sniper shot on my zealot...
@lean cairn

Wait, Ainz do you know how much damage snipers do on damnation? And how much their multiplier is against toughness?
idk
I'm just curious about something x.x

Damn, just thought I'd ask in case you did... I think they do like 120 damage or w/e on damnation since taking 1 sniper resist makes them do less than 100 damage...
Ty
Full spillover
beasting
Hm... with all those resists I mentioned earlier (benediction, 3 5% tdr nodes, enduring faith, good balance, and stalwart) all up and 3 20% sniper resists... I got them doing 127.449 toughness damage :\
I think I might have maffed wrong somewhere <.<'
I get 20.3203125% toughness damage taken with all those buffs up... And then with 3 20% sniper resists that is that x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 ... which gives me 10.404% toughness damage taken from snipers... Well I got the same # I did before so I must have done the math right :/
Hmph I got the same # again for toughness damage taken :\
hi
Hello
any good build for relic blade?
Either mark can use any of the 3 keystones, but, I like to use blazing piety with the mk10 relic blade myself
And it also depends on if you are talking havoc or not
I can stitch a build together for you real quick tho
what's the diffrence between havoc and auric?
Pain.
0-9 is set to Malice difficulty, 10-19 is set in Heresy, 20+ is Damnation. Auric sits somewhere above that.
A stalwart piety build leaves you with 3 extra talent points left over and for me personally I take these 2 talents, which would leave you with 1 talent left over. Thy wrath be swift isn't mandatory for the mk 10 relic blade, but, it still is a nice quality of life/utility to have which is why I take it.
It's an overlay of additional modifiers.
how can I share my build
For the mark 2 you want thy wrath be swift since it uses heavies for horde clear, whereas the mk10 doesn't need it as badly since it uses light spam for horde clear
is the same but diffrence
Auric is just damnation but the ai director throws more enemies at you
Havoc is a game mode where you're debuffed af and every enemy is buffed to hell and back + mission modifiers
Well you can't really share it yet since you don't have the red name yet, which you get from chatting enough on the server... but you can send a link from the build editor for us to look at by opening the link. This is the build editor website: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
I don't know how new you are to zealot, but, this is the meta tree layout for zealot right now. Purple being mandatory talents, and yellow being optional/build path talents(for the keystone talents) @zenith geode
This is The Build™
This version doesn't have a yellow line to chastise's 2nd charge, 1 sec
There, a revised version >.<'
I have similar build but a lil changes
the first 2 in middle and I dumped the 5% melee dmg with the perk under it to get more thoughness dmg redc
Oh wait I got a version from the one who did it already which does this damn it, I'll pin that one in my darktide solo dm chat so I use it from now on >.<'
sure
I see
thank you for telling
btw there's a chrome/firefox app that lets you check the dockets shop and melk's shop without opening darktide. This is the link for it, in case you want to use it. The firefox version requires something being done, but, I forgot what it was... I am a google chrome simpleton, so I didn't figure out how to do the thing for firefox's version... x.x
https://accounts.atoma.cloud/login
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I have mine set to curios only from the dockets shop for easy checks across all of my characters. :3
thank you for telling
It allowed me to get all of my max stat curios on my arbiter, that's level 30. I did check it every hour I was home and not sleeping for like... a week tho after the arbites class was released, so that kind of helped >.>'
@acoustic dune dinner 😍
Well at least it's cooked
Oh and by the way: 400 rated 3 stamina curios are fake, they are actually only +2 stamina in a mission... they show +3 in the meat grinder, but, only give +2 in missions. You need 410+ rated ones for real 3 stamina curios x.x
This is how people want their meat cooked. This is why I like my meat well done
I sure as hell am not eating pink ground beef lol
I have it
I've seen your chicken stan you don't get to talk
2 or 3 need stamina
This is the only curio that lies about the bonuses it gives at a specific rating. All others that say +1 wound, +17% stamina, and +21% health are real for their bonuses
yup
If you get a +1 wound curio while leveling your zealot you can use that even at level 30 since +1 wound is the only bonus it can give, for your martyrdom builds... it's cheaper to upgrade the rarity and cheaper to change perks :3
It is an alluring pink color tho
Stan about to go on his beef tartare arc

Zealot is the primary class that gets any real benefit from wound curios, since it has a keystone literally build around having bonus wounds... otherwise bonus wound curios are a trap for new players since they 1: Reduce how much med stims heal you, 2: make new players think they can afford to go down and thus it deprives them of having a stat to prevent going down in the 1st place, and 3: well... the 3rd was the last point of the 2nd point about you lose out on stats that can prevent you from going down in the 1st place. Also if you don't get picked up then the "benefit" from bonus wounds is lost...

Sorry for the wall of text, I just like making sure people know wound curios are traps >.>'
Erm what about wound psyker intentionally detonating on elites
You mean before they promptly get shredded by the 1 elite not killed by the explosion that doesn't down them with that one talent? :3

This talent I mean for psyker <.<'
Lmao I forgot this exists
Crystalline Will has gotta be the worst talent in the game
That's actually kinda perfect for the idea
When's ainz doing the four crystalline will wound psyker peril explosion only havoc 40 clear?
Ass
Eating
Fucking dammit
Mathematics
... for some reason I completely blanked that zealot's talent tree has 4 5% tdr nodes... :\
Time for tacos with a knife and fork
No sour cream?
I had no sour cream
Very sad day
Huh, that means marty zealots can get up to 59% toughness damage reduction with 6 wound buffs >.>
Salsa?
Having 46% tdr with only 4 wound buffs is nothing to sneeze at either >.>
No way
Especially if you're eating it with cutlery anyway
Especially Especially with sour cream
Casual martyrdom w
If I can get enduring faith up I can have as low as 23.75% toughness damage taken with only 5 wound buffs >.>'
Which is 76.25% toughness dr(while enduring faith is up)
It’s mid
The more authentic a salsa is, the better it is on tacos
Taxe + martydrom feels weird :\
The attack speed makes it harder to do the attack rotations...

I'm gonna try it again, but, without the attack speed per marty stacks to see if that feels better >.>
I am by no means going to ever share this cancer I've put together... I have invocation of death, enduring faith, and 3 5% tdr nodes since they're additive with marty's tdr... and I have to say it feels nice. This talent tree might get me put on a hit list, tho, so I am keeping it to myself... I at least have duelist x.x

... they seriously were trying to smite a daemonhost...?

which caused the hp to fill way faster then normal
that's a man with a plan
sigh that... is worse than this cancerous talent tree I have... but man I am so glad I put 0 confidence in randos... was this at least a low level havoc they were doing it in? :\
Welp with my current setup I have 72.2% tdr with enduring faith, benediction, and 3 marty buffs... even tho enduring faith is what is doing the heavy lifting here >.>
guess how stan pronounced "samus"
Why does the taxe of all things do somewhat decent damage on special attack spam? I get that I have shred and scourge carrying my damage here, but, still this is just stupid that I can kill a damnation crusher this fast with special attacks only :/
I'm gonna make sure I didn't accidentally set it to heresy or something... >.>
Nope, I had it on auric. That is the same hp on enemies as damnation, right? :/
That's only with +24% damage which is close to what I'd have with sustained assault and the 5% melee damage node up <.<'
lol with only 2 light 1 weakspot crits the bleed damage on a trapper finishes it off
It is funny being able to stagger muties, I don't ever try to stagger them since I am aiming to kill them instead... but this is really amusing to me
Uh... you can light attack through a bulwark's shield with the mk7 taxe... did you know this Ainz? @plush estuary
It's very consistent as well, this is stupid since I spent hours learning how to get the mk10 relic blade's push attack through bulwark shields >_<'
Get Fatshark'd lol
Know what else is sad? The mk6 power sword as well is almost 100% consistent when right up against the bulwark's shield with the push attack hitting the bulwark through the shield...

saw moose
seamus, pronounced "shame-us" as in the irish male name
Okay time to try "The Build"
Hello here, i'm trying to do the penance Shocking stuff for zealot, can someone help me?
606 currently
Never thought I'd see this from you, about the powersword... >.>'

hive mind
(I didn't even know it could go through Bulwarks shield)
💀
Also still
Psword top vet melee
I tested it out after I had done quite a bit of testing the mk10 relic's push attack, so I could get it more consistently(It's still very inconsistent on the mk10 relic blade)... meanwhile with the mk6 powersword? Just stand against a bulwark's shield and push attack... and it goes through extremely consistently :\
so outside of what i assume would be the dueling sword; relic blade; crusher and knife and thunder hammer, is there anything else that's good
man I just wanted to do some lower level havocs to practice playing zealot with the havoc modifiers
I was not prepared for this kind of meatgrinder on a havoc 18 of all things
psyker leaves without explanation like 5 minutes into the mission
ogryn is gunlugger and magdumps every horde
arbites just seemed inexperienced but he stayed alive so good for him
Thunder hammer 💀
Anyways
hey
evis
Eviscerators and Heavy Sword
it's a fucking warhammer can you blame me
evis is good and only really faces its limits on high havocs
Hsword takes forever to kill carapace but you'll just kill everything else
Still waiting for someone to say tactical axe

what about the tacax
It's usable
tac axe
it’s not just usable it’s really strong lol
Still capped
how is relic sword?
Still shit
The taxe that is
ur still shit,,,
Relic is fucking goated
Better Evis

Remove the cap on Tactical Axe
And then I might
Might
Emphasis on might
Say it's good
alright relic forever it seems
Well the secret ingredient is that zealot makes every melee weapon good
oh hi Gale
might be cooked chat
The fuck happened
so what every melee's just S tier?
just up to preference and talents?
how do y'all play martyrdom in havoc if you do
oh is that Barotrauma
Oh well we still have levels to this
It's just
Not below A tier
Tried to repair the engine
Did it explode..
Then duelist talent doing the heavy lifting
no we had immersive repairs and didn't have enough repair
I wonder how "fun" that mod is for electricians
shoulda never smoked that shit now i'm in Kino der Toten
tbh ive really only had problems choosing a ranged weapon
Who don't start with enough skill to actually fix electrical components safely
that SC is our engie they lost their arm trying to repair the engine
I wish I could play more barotrauma I liked doing a campaign with a friend
the dlc looks intriguing
it's fun but damn getting a group together is a pain
I'm even more of an antisocial prozac zombie than ever before so even like 1-3 would be a group enough
GTFO and barotrauma were both games I mostly had experience in 1/2/3 players
bullying your friends to play with you
make the molochs of europa your friends. the watchers in the even deeper waters are really so lovely once you get past the airlock and all that hull metal in the way of their gaze
Barotrauma was so fun, especially with a good curated modpack for vanilla+
I roided out on learning Neurotrauma and a couple of its add-ons just to never be able to fucking play it
i've done some modded singleplayer that's fun but I've never gotten super far
way too many good options its daunting
yeah some of those ones seem cool for dedicated roles on a ship but since I use the campaign ai I cannot use learn or use them
fentanyl instead, no neuro trauma required!!!
Did you use the crew member possession mod or whatever it's called?
Yeah I hate that about base Barotrauma
not sure
It literally has the foundations for an engaging medical system
It didn't have to go to Neutrauma's lengths, because that's slightly CBT
But dude you put forty medicines in the game and I'll only ever use 1
2, if I use the 1 too much on the same guy
I liked spiking my friend who was playing for the first time with alien blood and then playing into their panic for the sudden reactor meltdown fires
is neurotrauma not able to config to a middleground?
Devious trip sitter behavior, I love it
Not really, I don't think
Braced AG looks kinda like an AK, I like that, is it as good as Infantry?
Since it's an overhaul of how everything works, and has its own dedicated new fixes for new problems, I don't think that's feasible without gutting it
yknow what is funny about the relic sword
i made my zealot after Jarl Balgruuf the Greater in skyrim
i think if you fight him in the stormcloak route he uses a greatsword
:)
@void bison My first experience with Neurotrauma was our ship colliding with something and my friend getting a twisted or broken ankle
I told him we needed to use a surgery table that we didn't have yet for me to fix it, and he groaned for like five minutes before just insisting that I do it anyway
He kept insisting despite me telling him it will kill him if I do it now
Lo' and behold
Yes and no
They are good for just raw damage, stagger and suppression
But when finesse and dps comes into play
Iags are dps monsters
The zealot has access to Dance of Death
You dodge once and suddenly you have a decently accurate Brauto
The popular pick is Agripina Braced Auto
With the Graia being the second popular
Also obligatory Brauto video
This is Graia btw
I payed for the whole mag I'm going to use the whole mag
god the suppression
put ceaseless barrage on a graia brauto
it fully suppresses a reaper in 3 bullets
I never thought the Zealot would be good with Brauto
Should reconsider Zealot with guns
Piety or IJ for relic blade?
The power of Emprah and this gun I found
@broken vessel
i think the guy is saying that the g-man is being blunt, but in a very poor way
i dont think "he is being a blunter" is an actual expression
but calling someone blunt is
@sullen forge
Fuck
Gotta restart RT playthrough
Why
I screwed up somewhere with ToyBox now all my spaceship battles are insta fail
I either find a way of unscrewing
Or a way of skipping those battles
I forgor specifics of how it works but have you swapped the companions around to their best outposts for voidship fights?
What do you think: Too much stamina, or not enough? This is on my arby with the boltgun out >.>
What the fuck ?????
Arby smaul has this much with 3 3 stamina curios lol
I had 3 3 stamina curios equipped to see just how much stamina I'd have if I did that for a run >.>
with only 1 I have nearly infinite stamina on arby as it is, so I doubt I will try using more in anything serious
Low stamina class guys..
health or toughness for zealot in terms of curios
Toughness
for all classes
Walk it Off's strongest soldier
Tness
DOUGH OMG
@north sedge go to bedge kayak Tony's coin 
the pubs yearn for H40 matches
no....
ogryn base stamina
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wtf I need this
best devils claw?
Notice how you didn't mention flak damage
#nooticing
But yeah anyways
4 or 7
1 got a Strikedown after the push now
Yay fucking yay

How would you guys feel if Chorus was a placement/banner style ability instead of the channeled pause button it is now? Does the exact same thing, except you can still fight as the caster, in exchange for loss of mobility
okay so im stuck on what loadout to run. mainly what melee.
combat blade, relic blade, ds4, tac axe, devils claw...
taxe
is knife boss damage just not anything to write home about or am i just aiming at weak spots bad with fotf
You're just missing
Knife has really high finesse
Pair with Precognition and Duelist
And boom big damage
Bruh Dualist is the absolute shit! These crit combos be drowning me!
Yeah because Precog and Duelist buff critical body damage you can also pair Precognition with Riposte
Shit out crits
The alternative is funny Shroudfield

By the way I found a use for the rashad's special attack... when all of my buffs are up special attack a reaper then finish it off with a heavy since my heavy does 3600 damage with all my buffs up besides break the line on my arby. :3
Otherwise? Nope, I'm always going to forget that the rashad even has a special attack...

Okay hear me out
Throawble chorus
Extra pulse with the more krill you get
From the throw
Like this is what my half asleep ass can do
This is not even a good knife as well

Pretty sure I got elites and sprint on it
Idk why or when I did that
🤷
i think this is the big issue i have, deliberately proccing them by dodging a boss attack 
just went into my first game in a while
i joined one that was in progress and saw an ogryn running away from a pack of 4 walkers
flag
forget special, rashad has a heavy?
OGRYN TANK, NOT DAMAGE! 
for zealot is it best to go far right urle talenTs? with relic sword
no u want the build ™
The best zealot weapon is the one you made along the way
No. I want my fucking weapon
Use the psycher as a bat
Is what I am saying
Barrel them into the enemy
Hory shit I just got an idea
What if
We could rocket jump
i feel scammed, @mighty root told me that Zealot is all about dodge, which make sense, their one perk tree favours that...
issue is that the weapons that i like the most for the class (Relic B, Eviscerator, Thammer, Crusher) all have lesser dodges!
what i have left is a class that I struggle to like even MORE now because its not only onedimensional but doesnt favour what i actually like TT_TT
Let me tell you about the ij keystone
It buffs your dodges
full day was me feeling that im performing worse than Veteran, and that was with IJ
Did you spam doge?
yep, i lived, but it feelt pain

Fyre
It’s over
Stone him
Its Jover
Where tac axe
Or knife
love me relic
Have you tried not spamming doge
And if you want to spam it
Dueling sword is right there
I like the weapons, but i prefer these some more
But we will call you a stinky boy for it

I understand
its fine, i smell like spakhead nowadays more
Have you tried crit crusher
Yakub post the fyrestone
Or crit heavy sword
Have tried many builds, most dont click as i have with Sparkhead, or ogryn
Owari da…
have to farm one for the class, still missing some weapons
hsword is nice, but i found it kinda boring to use
what weapons are really good for doing the backstab and shroudfield penances
knife
knife and Taxe are good to win backs to get that bonuses
I’d do knife
do you like, use the crit build on knife and hold heavy attack to get that backstab
or do you just spam m1 knife
because ive seen people doing that whole bleed knife thing
bleed knife lol
Why is people suggesing me to use things that dont exist! (DS doesnt exist for me mate, i refuse like Titus refuse fear)
ok , how do you build knife for shroudfield, and which mark
I do mk 3
the ONE thing that somewhat feels...not fine but can work is knife chorus star, basically singing all time
because i have perfect max mastery knife, but i dunno how to use it
3 for h1 overhead and a pa thats not a stab
Tbh I only like the mk 6 on psyker
also remember to hold heavy attack when sprinting you go faster
Because ds have inf doge
And since you like doge so much why don't you marry it
what perks and blessings for knife, also do you use the knife to horde clear
DS donesnt have that game, i know because i own a 3DS
Lacerate and lacerate and more lacerate
but if you crit so much the bleed on crit isnt better?
in any case, my one hope to use the class feesl that will be with the crusher (the weapon), otherwise it doesnt feel that good for me TT_TT
Yarp
where is obesefish and the rework already?
does lacerate still only work on body shots
You can with the right build get 100% crit
that sounds crazy
OK fine I meant flesh tearer
i made this rn, so, something like this?
What's crazy in the cd
ignore ranged option and curios
yeah you can pretty easily stack to >80% without that much effort
Crit pairing with the recon last goes crazy
isnt that better for getting the penance done
i just need that build for finishing off the shroudfield and backstab penances lol
Oh that penance
meow did mention i could just go park outside enemy spawn in mortis trials with rashad combat axe and finish it off that way
but I kinda wanna play the games
*ignore the second picture
well, it looks like at least the talent point spread is fine, except for mastercrafted shroudfield i guess
mortis is kinda just penance farm simulator
ik, but im kinda sick of it since I farmed all the ogryn penances there
also is retributors stance better than swift certainty
because i dont really like either that much, but i got one extra point
so i put it into retributors
dont ever take swift certainty
^
I guess I could take until death or anoint in blood instead of retributors stance
It's a noob trap of a talent. It sounds good on paper cause it says you can "dodge ranged attacks while sprinting"... but what it doesn't tell you is that you already can while you have stamina, swift certainty just lets you do it at 0% stamina. :\
the tutorial tells you that you can dodge ranged attacks while sprinting
That's only in the advanced tutorial x.x
I may have stolen it from you
but it is mine now...
If you take until death I advise also taking holy revenant since that then lets you get some hp that you can work with without worrying about dying from 1 or 2 chip damage while until death is on cooldown
i dont think im gonna take until death on this build
mine
I generally dont take it unless im playing martyrdom
im gonna take either retributors stance or anoint in blood
Until death and holy rev paths directly into the best aura zealot has: Benediction x.x
illegal
yeah but Im doing the penance lol
Which one?
loner penance
all the backstab/shroudfield/loner penances
Loner + shroudfield right?
i would drop blood redemption and retributors to get to purge too
but i just like purge
and so far ive got this build
And you are wanting inexorable judgement?
There's nothing wrong with ij and shroudfield together
Piety would give you your ability faster
Tho if I am going to be honest if you want shroudfield back consistently then piety is generally the way(as long as you have a weapon that can use crit talents well)... this is a build I threw together for a piety version for you if you want
what
I wonder if ij will be a keystone like Arby has
is zealot tree rework confirmed?
Tho for IJ... I'd say something like this probably @desert vessel
oh you take stalwart instead of fury rising?
ngl I have no idea whats going on in this game the devs go radio silent 8 months out of the year
Speculations
You can take fury rising, and even change the 5s shroudfield in for the 25% piety crit if you want. I just took the one I knew would be beneficial for you almost all of the time
Fatshark recently learned how to make good trees
And if you're using the knife you can skip the 10% attack speed talent
nah i love excessive attack speed
frenzy always take
FS still going to find a way to fuck up though
theyre also on vacation rn right
i love pressing buttons
I like that talent a lot as well, but, I also never use the knife. I am not a fan of the knife, myself. Most weapons that I use benefit from the attack speed a decent bit. >.>'
Yup
They come back in August
not really
Is that the attack speed on emptying your mag? Cause not really if it is
yeah its that one
Even if there was a 1 mag gun I wouldn't say it was all that great :/
30 impact and 10 melee speed
ive literally never used it except to do that beacon of purity penance that one time
I've only used it with the dr on someone taking damage for 4s talent... besides for the creeping blight havoc thing I think the corruption removal aura is... not very good when compared to 15% tdr that is always up always keeping you alive longer. :\
book + benediction? 😭
really? people are taking beacon?
yes
beacon situationally useful in havoc
Not unless the havoc has the creeping blight thing
I guess beacon is still better than loner most of the time
benediction is better pathing than beacon of purity, and if there isn't the creeping blight then afaik benediction is the go-to aura
I’m gonna be honest even in havoc on the modifier where you “needed” it it still wasn’t all that good
none of zealots auras are that great anyways
100% of the time, loner is bad... also: coherency regen is disabled in combat(when you're near an enemy)... >.>'
theres a penance for beacon anyway
Benediction is pretty cool
ive done all the penances except the shroudfield/loner/backstab ones, and just a flesh wound
lies
i had a blast using immo grenade, i just missed out on some talents i needed
tdr propaganda
Personally I find both nade options to not be great for me as a player, since I am so used to saving the stun nades for a clutch... that I forget to use them to help me clutch almost every time...

well, I havent tried some of the really popular zealot weapons yet, mainly, duelling sword, crusher, relic blade
what have you been using then?
On a side note: I love this thy wrath be swift travel talent since it makes guns like the autopistol able to snipe. :3
so far my fav build is sweeping eviscerator mark with fotf and bp, and ive used the other stuff, rashad uhh
i forgot the rest
i have a perfect crusher and duelling sword, il level them at the end
no perfect relic blade though 😿
oh yeah hsword was great too
For me I love the thammer and heavy sword a ton on zealot... I've been sidetracked with the relic blade, tho, for a while and haven't gotten to play with either of those melee weapons because of that. The relic blade is a ton of fun, but, I am drawn to the crucis thammer. I love the crucis thammer so much. Even when we had to light attack for horde clear on it I still loved it. :3
yeah im doing hammer rn
I also got myself addicted to the heavy sword when they released the talent trees since I used it on my "clutch" build. :3
thammer is life
the situation is "I need yellow toughness and don't want to play Veteran"
I still have to unlock the crucis mark, im using thunderhelm rn
Just 1 shot the damnation plague ogryn, smh my head

Admittedly not an uncommon one becaus Vet squish
the situation is i want to do the penance in a reasonable amount of time
remember if you see a thunderhelm in the wild youre legally obligated to react with disgust and disdain
bonk
i had a crazy mortis game with a crucis zealot, it was my first mortis game ever, i went straight to auric mortis and we cleared the whole thing the first time, because our zealot just one shotted all the bosses one by one with crucis
and the vet needed nonstop revives for ..vet stuff ig
i was playing ogryn with karsolas pickaxe so 💤
Yep, and I tested it like... 2 weeks ago: It still works. That setup did require 25% unyielding and 10% weakspot damage on my thammer in order to kill it without duelist or any headtaker or sustained assault stacks tho... otherwise it is just 25% unyielding and 1 headtaker or sustained assault stack or duelist for the 1 shot >.>
you have no idea how much pain it caused me to put weakspot damage on my thammer to make sure that still worked... I hate that perk on any weapon, especially the thammer x.x
without 10% weakspot damage this is what happens
you dont really neeed the complete one shot ya know 
its a matter of pride
Probably since shroudfield does make you crit >.>
heavy sword is one of the only two melees i haven’t tried yet on zealot
is it any good
i didnt like the flamer at first, but once i got fully levelled up and blessed out , its absolutely bonkers
heavy sword is fun
hsword is good at killing things
it just doesnt do anything against carapace
kills literally everything but carapace
its moveset is very nice to loop
How do you fight carapace 
you need chastise charges for carapace
just special and h1 loops nonstop
or heavy special loop for mediocre damage
deathblow yes
Yes, but, you either need to slowly wittle down crushers or use a crit build to do it a bit faster... or take a boltgun to kill crushers. Those are the biggest weakness of the heavy sword... since it does poor carapace damage. You can dodge and weave around the crushers fairly well doing special attack heavy 1 over and over until they die... also the heavy 1 does more damage with chastise(As long as you have at least 10% rending the heavy 1 does more damage than the special)
headtaker and deathblow
I learned 10% rending was all it took when I tried the 10% rending talent on vet's talent tree with the heavy sword. >.>'
is mark 7 the best of the taxes
Does zealot get any rending 
ive never tried bladed momentum before
It is the most liked of the 3 marks, overall
only on chastise iirc
Chastise, blessings*, and then brittleness depending on the weapons(most weapons the brittleness is not worth taking)
also is shock maul any good
i havent tried that yet either
shock maul moveset is wonky
not after arbites
I like the one that starts with heavy sweep
But aren't they the same? just combo difference
one does more damage I think
my people live exclusively off meat and rice
gymbro lifestyle
Is that amazing cult or RimWorld 
rimworld
Odyssey has been really fun, like probably my favorite dlc out of all of them
build?
I love our build variety
Pretty much every class ingame only has the one "viable" build
but realisitically like... even in havoc 20 just be good and run whatever
ogryn?
ogryn's meta build is just rumblergryn
all the other builds are """""""""technically suboptimal"""""""""
but ogryn is kinda op so he gets away with running whatever he wants usually
viable does not mean meta
I think what most players want from a "viable" skill tree is just to have less tax nodes
like ogryn and arbitrator get to have fun with all their blitzes and abilities because their tree is more freeform
while zealot is stuck with 5 darktrillion nodes that either do very little or are bugged and do basically nothing so half the tree is no fun to play
can anyone help me with a zealot achievment called flesh wound?
As interesting as rot is in Aneurism
It gets so boring once it starts taking over because it's impossible to do anything without randomly dying
blame the janitors ig
Or the cops who take your gun away while they're short-staffed and you're helping
look man they don't make the rules they just enforce them

Zealots and Enforcers competing to see who has the most brain damage and the biggest ego at the same time
These three messages
Right on the Meowney
Fury of the faithful
I think that's it
Brittleness doesnt count because it doesnt work the same as rending
If we counted we got one
On a flame thrower
Cuz yeah.
I guess uncanny as well but on one shared weapon
It's like 20% isn't it
Oh and the k. Nife
But not like the other classes got either
I think all classes have a straight rending or brittleness, at least one, on their talent trees
But zeal, excluding the one attack fotf gives you
Idk
They probably want zealots to use innate crit rending
But also base crit is lower than arby and psyker
Also no crit chance node

Probably no crit chance node due to Scourge and Blazing Piety existing. Unless it was absurdly high for a stat node, people would just think it's a tax node.
how do you actually hit heads with crusher pa?
Where do I aim exactly?
I don't unrderstand, half the time I hit the head and half the time I miss
Up left usually. Really depends on the enemy and where they're facing in relation to where you're attempting to hit from.
I had forgotten about this. I drew this with the crayon writing tool in my paint document a while back >.>'
I have nothing but hatred for the right side zealot tree penances. I'm just glad they're finally over.
It's really funny that it's a super competitive damage ult but the small group of people who use it usually just use it to drop aggro.
Is there a reason the mk7 taxe's 2nd special attack does less damage to flak and unarmored than the mk7 taxe's 1st special attack? :\
The 1st one 1 shots the dreg and scab bruisers with my buffs up, but, the 2nd one doesn't despite it being a strike down looking attack :\
That was vs a heresy scab bruiser and dreg bruiser, since my taxe's damage is only uh... ... ... 58% >.>'
Hey don't you badmouth my flamer prepping ability
The special attacks have multiple damage templates they can pick from.
Ah... that's weird. The 1st special attack always killed them, though, with my buffs up. So is it not random, then, for which damage template it chooses?
ey phill
Or was I just extremely lucky each time I tried it? >.>'
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Time to get annoyed by all your zealots by falling behind while playing psyker...
i’m playing the slop when it comes out
i can’t wait
I enjoy using right side tree with the knife and certain skills for infinite shroudfield, It’s also kinda goated and deals a respectable amount of damage and you get the utility of being able to pick up your teammates while invisible.
Same
Unfortunately ill be asleep
Probably
I love her animations
Especially the neutral guards
I do saber and my partner does Neapolitan/Destreza rapier now and i recognize both from literature
Her neutrals anyways
Her stances except the top one ive never seen before
I doubt theyre from literature w how weird they are but there is some weird shit in rapier
I forget the word because it's Italian but it's when you thrust from inside guard while moving and put ur hand on the floor
It's something in one of capoferro's many rapier treatises
True !
Her fashion is weird and i like it
oh like that one old movie i forget the name of
yeah her fashion is weird it’s good
also super funny outlanders have more hero’s than the wulin now
It's a mix of a lot of shit from various centuries which i like
All Italian
Except for that one klappvisor helmet but idk if thats a klappvisor or a visored burgonet/klapp hybrid
Yah they mention capoferro in uh
Princess Bride
During the duel
yeah that’s the one
i saw so many tiktok clips of it i eventually watched the whole thing
good movie
I think they mention uh
Agrippa (camilo agrippa), another italian fencer
And bonetti who is a known italian? Venetian? I forget fencer who wrote treatises in London iirc
All around the same century
I think capoferro would be the earliest reference they made
He's 17th century im p sure
Idk a whole lot about rapier, i dont own one, and ive only ever read destreza literature (spanish rapier written by a very snobby imperial Spanish nobleman)
I do saber but rapiers evolved militarily from the saber
Theyre both cut and thrust swords
Saber moreso cut than thrust and vice versa for the rapier
They share a lot of the same movements and guards
you actually fence with a saber?
what kind i know there’s alot of variations when it comes to sabers
Oh and thibault
According to google they refrence him too
Ive seen him discussed in hema channels but all i know is he's dutch
Military saber (British, Prussian primarily, but mostly British, such as Roworth and Taylor)
that’s cool
i think cavalry sabers are my favorite design of them
There's a lot
Roworth's manual is meant for both infantry and cavalry
The Prussian style is meant for cavalry sabers though
19th century stuff
Roworth's last update was with the help of a cavalryman officer though who also fought w bh bs which was popular at the time
i see this has been pretty insightful maybe i should learn more about medieval weapons
or renaissance for rapiers
Rapiers, baskethilt broadsword, sabers (of all kinds, they were used for a long time and of patterns there are a great many)
Lots and lots of literature, heavy and nimble
I prefer saber personally now than longsword
But ive done longsword a long time and saber now for a few months so maybe it's just novel to me
Less gear needed lmfao which is nice
Oh all my sabers are made by VB btw
They make longswords as well
Theyre a group based out of Hungary - which also has great saber manuals
I have the gymnasium saber and bell mili saber from purpleheart and theyre quite wonderful, highly recommend
can you show me your saber when you get the chance
https://share.google/uE725XCpFoti7zO4A i recently bought one of these a few weeks ago because they came highly recommended
Adept Saber - new version, with peened guard instead of thread. Only available with spiral leather wrap. Designed as ideal tool for beginner fencers, to allow them easier start in they fencing journey. Typical parameters for military sabers makes this saber all-around weapon, applicable both as amazing tournament weapon and ideal representative ...
Sure
Only one i have on me now is my gynasium saber because ive loaned my mili to one of our other club members
So he may spar w my normal sparring partner since we have diff schedules
peened guard
Intercontinental Ballistic Spamton
@jagged cradle
Nothin rlly 2 look at it's just ur typical saber
And my Literature
Ive shown u my Long Swads B4
Fury of the faithful
100% rending

still looks nice
what was your favorite book to read so far
@acoustic dune
roworth and the polish book
they r Very Good
i dont own a hungarian style cavalry saber and my sabers are fairly light
so a lot of it is lost on me
Wtf is that
Oatmeal
Why is it now piping hot
I microwaved it for too long
when are you leveling up and doing it with a classic turkish saber 
Are you Turkish
nope
no 
You give off hot summer climate vibes 
You think stan know that I am asian
Yes I do

No you dont
I knew that
No you didnt
Shame
How can't you remenber what nationality I am from
Literal sandwhich
can we get this for blazing piety for the zealot rework please thanks
sounds broken i love it
tbf blazing piety is probably being retired and turned into a more interesting keystone than "more crits lol"
considering Arbites has that keystone as a regular talent node
definitely not copium^
zealots keystones barely change the way you play
do what you were already doing, but more
yeah that is the main issue with Zealot I believe
for curio perks on martyrdom, should i go 2 gunner, 1 sniper, stamina regen? and something else?
3 stam 3 toughness 3 gunner
is Lethal Proximity any good or is the damage negligible on Havoc?
(for the Bolt Pistol)
The explosion barely does damage
And due to ammo shortage I don't recommend using it for creating breathing room
What would you recommend for blessings then? I was thinking Point Blank and Deadly Accurate
And then I was gonna do extra ranged critical chance and flak armor for perks
deserved for vet+peesword
mfw the event tiers give you less ordo dockets than a single mission
🚬 dockets? whats that
playing events for anything other than funny haha gimmicks
FS buffs Eviscerators
FS releases event where big enemies are Infested
I see you FS
I know what you are
Puncture always, then surgical (if you want better long range) or lethal proximity (if you're gonna run and gun) for bolt pistol
why not deadly accurate? double damage seems pretty dang useful
Surgical da works, similar to revolver in use there
at that point, other than ammo count, it kinda seems like the revolver is better in every way
huge headshot hitbox, faster switching, faster aiming
and only 30 less damage which is negligible on Havoc and doesn't affect any breakpoints
Having a clip reload is nice
that's true, but it's a long reload and you can always interrupt the revo one if you only need 1-3 shots
what kind of zealot is an important first question
do you trust your teammates or do you not trust them to keep themselves alive
true true
i trust them a bit yeah
is blades of faith shit or not
they're difficult to get used to but very helpful
especially if you're running certain builds like thunder hammer + flamer since you have no long range option
so far, knife + either benediction or beacon of purity + fury of the faithful + inexorable judgement looks good but idk
I hate the knife but that's personal preference
I like either the relic blade or the thunderhammer
knife builds are fine on Auric but I've yet to see one be used effectively in Havoc
i may try the fire grenade
i’ll probably need some aoe anyway lol
the fire grenade is pretty good
the stun grenade in my opinion is heavily underrated for reviving teammates and saving yourself and others from bad situations
Pick duelist and second wind
Dodge
Be immortal
Kill
???!?!??!??
Profit
no way baby deag
HATING the early lack of aoe, i’m used to psyker and ogryn now </3
flamer
haven’t unlocked it yet
anyone have a good TH + flamer talent build?
Hey guys, I made a quick reference chart for Empowerment Cost to get weapons to 500:
Pass it around.
you got a lot of free time it seems
Unemployment is a hell of a drug 😞
Thanks, excel wizard.
I see some people take chorus into havoc. If you go that route what makes it possible/what’s suggested build/what mandatory talents for this?
Is martyrdom with it a good idea or nah?
Cool so crit build overall?
If you're bringing book, yeah.





