zealot-class

[misty nova]

Now Fatshark can't buff their flak

Because they will break the game

[violet hornet]

Idk if I would call the upper half of havoc low lol

[runic grotto]

no I didn't

[grizzled aspen]

It is, that's when it gets to damnation scaling.

Before that it's malice/heresy.

[runic grotto]

it is

[placid fiber]

You can't gaslight me by changing it

[runic grotto]

Everything before damnation is pretty easy havocs

[placid fiber]

I knew you were gonna do something like that >.>

[green yacht]

Nice photoshop, buddy

[runic grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533050129700356106/1290934064819343423/attachment.gif

[violet hornet]

Yes I've played havoc before, that's like calling anything under an auric mission low difficulty in the normal board. Its not necessarily difficult but it's still on the high end relative to available difficulties

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-car-garn-47-laptop-funny-gif-4291198679301656190

[runic grotto]

ok

chat

define low havoc

[violet hornet]

Easy != Low

[runic grotto]

and high havoc

[crimson belfry]

Idk, taxe feels worse imo

[median steeple]

21 below

21 - 30 mid

[misty nova]

Because it is

[median steeple]

30-40 high

[placid fiber]

People just have more fun with the taxe, so they blind themselves to the fact that the caxe reaches 1 shot breakpoints easier than it

[runic grotto]

you are bad at the game, idk, taxe is awesome and I love them after the recent buff

[runic grotto]

They literally have the same 1 shot breakpoints

[sullen forge]

Ainz theory yet again getting proven

[placid fiber]

You need unarmored on the taxe

[sullen forge]

crashed after a clutch on H40

[violet hornet]

Mfw I gotta get rude with chat because someone said another weapon was good

[median steeple]

game is plotting against them

[crimson belfry]

idk man, Caxe just feels better to me.

[misty nova]

Technically it can one shot crushers

[violet hornet]

Same tbh

[misty nova]

[median steeple]

they're both bad because they're boring

[misty nova]

(as zealot)

[runic grotto]

And in turn caxes are very slow

[crimson belfry]

you say that but something just activates my almonds watching a caxe cleave a persons head

[violet hornet]

Yeah I don't really use either tbh, caxe is too straightforward to be fun to use

[placid fiber]

They are slower, yes. More base damage per hit at a lower pace, which is the primary difference between the 2

[runic grotto]

including mobity and dodges

[crimson belfry]

That's probably why I don't like taxe, faster weaker hits feels worse to me than slower heavier hits

[placid fiber]

Fair on mobility, but, dodges you can reset just by not dodging for half of a second on both of them

[violet hornet]

Lmao never touch thammer if you think caxe is slow

[runic grotto]

taxe also has agile

[placid fiber]

Oh boy, a blessing which makes it harder to reach breakpoints

[crimson belfry]

Thammer really does make you see everything as a nail

[crimson belfry]

Oh I'm using this image from now on

[misty nova]

[violet hornet]

I am known for saying "oooooo a DAEMONHOST" in the mic when I have a thammer and hear one haha

[placid fiber]

Like I get you have fun on the taxe, that's great. That doesn't change the fact if you take agile you either screw yourself on 25% power nearly permanently, 20% crit if you take shred, and/or brutal momentum which makes you have almost no horde clear

[crimson belfry]

"oh boy, here I go killin' again"

[misty nova]

Kek

Shit weapon

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-voiceacting-acting-car-gif-12653391518315162312

It says right here taxe is better

[violet hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134256523221155900/1341946253365350471/ePni9ZT.gif

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[crimson belfry]

https://media.tenor.com/ZuYfidevMykAAAAM/fotns-rapid.gif

How many times I feel I have to hit

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-hes-right-you-know-hes-right-you-know-meme-gif-27526609

[sullen forge]

im gonna hit you over the head over and over till you like the Taxe

[crimson belfry]

You think caxe is boring, I think simplicity is sometimes more enjoyable

[crimson belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/taxes-tax-worst-worstpart-monopoly-gif-14757849

[grave cypress]

isnt there a setting to auto-fire melee weapons that require lots of hitting? or a mod?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/asriel-shrug-wildin-gif-2765553899476055720

never gonna happen

[runic grotto]

there are mods

[grave cypress]

failing all else I know theres binds

[runic grotto]

I use this

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/88

[violet hornet]

I used to take caxe on new builds, with new ranged weapons, or on new modifiers so I had less to focus on in melee while I worked out other things

[sullen forge]

its gonna happen

[grizzled aspen]

Keep Swinging, FullAuto, or Skitarius.

[crimson belfry]

I just use an auto clicker

[sullen forge]

I only use Full Auto

lmao

[solar gorge]

you'll get your white flavourless bread and you're gonna like it type shi

[runic grotto]

I set it to swing while holding m4

[crimson belfry]

lmao

[solar gorge]

give me power weapons or give me death

(I count chain stuff as powered)

[crimson belfry]

well yeah

how else does it move?

[solar gorge]

mmmh

I need to reflect upon this

[plush estuary]

We were going to win that trio but I crashed after a clutch, I literally can't play with this bug

Back to factorio

@hard nexus after lunch, then factory?

[crimson belfry]

I've been debating on getting that

[plush estuary]

Already have around 100 hours just on one save with a few friends

Worth it

https://medal.tv/games/factorio/clips/kFMrOdjnNG4w-yUu1?invite=cr-MSxuVjcsMjA0ODY2MDQ3

Also moments like these happen

[solar gorge]

factorio, no thank you I'd rather play satisfactory and eat crayons

[crimson belfry]

I like Satisfactory, I just hate playign it alone

[hushed knoll]

HI FROGCAST ILY

OMG LAMBDA HI

I hope you are Gucci

[solar gorge]

I am

[hushed knoll]

Nice

[solar gorge]

my friend who has a lot of hours in both factorio and satisfactory checked out one of my factories and told me I should be executed

[hushed knoll]

That’s a little extreme

[solar gorge]

this was a long time ago but rest assured

my factories are still ass

[hushed knoll]

What constitutes an ass factory

[solar gorge]

use your imagination

[misty nova]

[crimson belfry]

I loved cramming as much as I could in as little space as I could.

[vale lark]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[solar gorge]

i love when my conveyor belts cross and clip into each other

[crimson belfry]

oh I hate that

I avoid clipping like the plague

[hushed knoll]

I don’t want to

[solar gorge]

can you even picture things in your head

I heard some freaks of nature can't do that

[crimson belfry]

Can you even rotate an apple in your head?

[elder maple]

peak

[solar gorge]

yes of course

i can do anything

[violet hornet]

Can you rework zealot tree in your head?

[solar gorge]

I already did and they made a new class called arbites with it

[crimson belfry]

Even updated it to a new religion

The Lex

[hard nexus]

i don’t think i’ll be on today

or if i am it’ll be later today

i’m gonna watch the new squid game season with a friend

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-games-squid-game-uncle-ben-spiderman-gif-24416082

[misty nova]

Damm

Mid was made

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

Dog is cool though

https://tenor.com/view/dog-hand-moment-gif-20477694

[keen rivet]

how is the thunderhamer in Havoc? i've been playing a lot with the relic blade but it feel like i still lak damage output

[worldly agate]

if u feel like u lack damage with the relic blade u might just not be doing the right combos

t hammer is a lot worse at killing hordes than relic blade

but it does do more boss dmg

[visual stream]

Relic blade is great
Thunder hammer is also great, but you need to keep in mind it's a dedicated armor and boss deleter in Havoc

The Crucis is specifically better in Havoc

[worldly agate]

I thought crucis is better at everything

[visual stream]

Nope

[worldly agate]

ironhelm is ass is what I've always been told

[visual stream]

In Auric there is no reason to take Crucis over Ironhelm because Ironhelm hits every single one shot breakpoint and is faster

[keen rivet]

ironhelm laks the light atack output but can imagine that it swings faster

[visual stream]

The only thing Crucis has on Ironhelm in Auric is boss damage, which is kind of negligible because they're a non-issue 99% of the time

Vs. Havoc, boss central

Ironhelm suffers in Havoc because all of its perfect breakpoints shatter into a billion pieces because of the big enemy health buffs

[keen rivet]

but for boss, so like a beast of nurgle, but that some buiild works for the luitanants? and other heavy enemies?

[craggy jackal]

You can shoot the specialists

[visual stream]

What do you mean?

[keen rivet]

boss damage, like luitanants and beasts of nurgle, those kind of bosses. i could see that such build also works for the normal heavy enemies like crushers and so?

[visual stream]

Ohhh

I mean yes, Crucis kills them quite well
But Ironhelm also one shots every single non-boss enemy that Crucis does

[violet hornet]

Can the ironhelm kill weak elites with a single unpowered light attack?

[visual stream]

I forget the specific breakpoints but gunners and shotgunners all die in one powered L1, I believe dreg gunners need IJ stacks or slaught stacks specifically

[visual stream]

10 IJ stacks and full thrust on H3

[violet hornet]

Hmm I might have to test that out

[visual stream]

Shrimple

[violet hornet]

Yeah I never waste a FotF charge on a crusher if I have a crucis

[visual stream]

I WAS going to make a guide for Ironhelm a while back and had every single breakpoint memorized and then I realized it was poopy in havoc so I saved my time

[gaunt roost]

then play ds4

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[visual stream]

Either way, as soon as you get slaught stacks up it should be smooth, which isn't hard in a fight where you actually need to kill multiple things

[visual stream]

If they unshadownerfed it, yes :)

(they probably didn't)

[stone fern]

ur running +carapace arent u

[visual stream]

Of course I am

Why wou

[stone fern]

🚬

[visual stream]

Oh god I forgot you don't run cara

Why the fuck don't you run cara Clad

[stone fern]

so you have either no flak or no unyielding

because i NEED elite to kill bulwarks faster

thats why

[visual stream]

You don't need unyielding in auric because you already kill bosses faster than most weapons without it and you reach easy one shots on reapers and bulwarks

[violet hornet]

Just one shot them with your crucis 😉

[misty nova]

Still on the wark hate arc huh

🚬

[violet hornet]

Who doesn't hate bulwarks lol

[visual stream]

Malice players

[violet hornet]

Smug bastards hiding behind their shields knowing a dog, trapper net, or burster will clip right through

[stone fern]

unyielding elite lets u kill them with two empowered lights on ironhelm

[visual stream]

Why would you ever

Use two empowered lights

[stone fern]

hate

i hate them

[visual stream]

USE ONE SINGLE HEAVY ACTIVATED

[stone fern]

wait you know why

[gaunt roost]

“Wrecking Crew!!!”

[stone fern]

BECAUSE

[visual stream]

IT'S LESS TIME

[violet hornet]

Two powered ones, one to open shield and one to hit head

[stone fern]

not true

[visual stream]

No way a powered light kills bulwark

[stone fern]

no

3 empowered lights

1 open and 2 kill

[violet hornet]

Omg lol

[stone fern]

its more reliable

[visual stream]

THAT'S EVEN WORSE

[violet hornet]

Okay that sounds like ass

[visual stream]

YOU'RE RAGE BAITING ME CLAD

[violet hornet]

Crucis does it in 1 light

[stone fern]

SILENCE

[visual stream]

YOU'RE RAGE BAITING ME OR I'M FINDING WHERE YOU LIVE

[stone fern]

H1 hooks either carapace or body

it has bad head track with bulwarks

[violet hornet]

Krill issue

[stone fern]

dont @ me

[visual stream]

Go on the correct side of them when they're open

[violet hornet]

@stone fern

[stone fern]

H2 is more reliable for bulwarks

[visual stream]

Or wait for swing

[stone fern]

wrong

no

ur all blocked

getting to H2 or 2 empowered lights

i pick empowered lights

[visual stream]

THREE EMPOWERED LIGHTS PER BULWARK

[stone fern]

😠

I KNOW IRONHELM

[violet hornet]

Seriously cannot believe someone would intentionally do that

[stone fern]

🚬 u just dont KNOW

[misty nova]

I don't

[stone fern]

blocked

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/bottle-opener-stunt-chainsaw-drinking-party-tricks-gif-13833626

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-blocked-gif-12894880

[violet hornet]

I'll just change my name to "crusher overhead" and then your block will mean nothing

[stone fern]

1 dodged message

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/ultra-instinct-weave-splits-fight-gif-23224170

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[violet hornet]

Hmm how about "roller skating havoc 40 crusher overhead"

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pubg-sniper-bad-aim-video-game-gameplay-gif-17779154

[plush estuary]

another clutch dc

3rd today

5th in the past 2 days

[misty nova]

Smh

My goat washed

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[north sedge]

Just simply do 1 empowered light with crucis

[mystic ether]

What do people consider stable curio combinations and why?

[placid fiber]

2 toughness and 1 stamina/health, 3 toughness for non-marty builds due to zealot's ability to easily recover toughness with the support of talents like enduring faith and second wind. For marty it's 3 wound curios or 2 wound curios and 1 toughness

[mystic ether]

I usually just go with like 17% x2/x3 or 17% x2 and +3 stamina for the added stamina for squeezing out at least one more shove if absolutely needed kind of deal.

[placid fiber]

the 1 stamina(+3 stamina) helps weapons like the crusher and knife sustain longer periods they can use their push attacks before they have to wait the 0.75s delay

Health well... helps with chip damage doing less to you overall <.<

[mystic ether]

I generally prefer builds where my melee defensive upkeep is available for like a i dunno

[placid fiber]

but toughness is extremely useful on all classes

It also helps with how much gunners can do to you before you start losing health

[mystic ether]

three or four shove combos if I'm actually getting pressed enough. For doge heavy weapons, i'm under the assumption that I'm moving a little more from positioning alone.

I still haven't gotten people to run havoc with me to get a feel for what that sphere of gameplay is like.

[placid fiber]

Also you can proc second wind off of the basic gunners >.>

[mystic ether]

What tends to stretch longer for a sort of generalist setup with zealots?

[mystic ether]

It's huge.

Zealot got some delicious dodge-friendly talents and silly stuff with sprint when I'm in the mood to exploit it.

[placid fiber]

This or the full right side piety is the general set up for a crit build, leaving 2 or 3 points left the spare

For weapons that use heavy attacks tho for horde clear twbs is advised

for a non-crit build this is the general set up

[placid fiber]

This is "The Build™ "

purple being the ones you take on all builds, yellow being optional ones

[mystic ether]

I'm familar with most of these but thanks either way. I'll tuck em away and play around as I figure things out.

[mystic ether]

Genuine question but do people run the left side of the blazing piety branch for just stabilizing team dps?

not dps oops lol just having another toughness generator/

[sullen forge]

People really only run left side for more Damage reduction

makes Zealot incredibly tanky

[craggy jackal]

It makes you super tanky and only costs 1 point

The right side costs 2 points for 10% bonus crit chance

[hushed knoll]

@acoustic dune

[stone fern]

mushrooms and ginger?

[visual stream]

Stuffed vegetables scare me

I was put in the ER from food poisoning because of stuffed pepper

[median steeple]

looking at party finder and man

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[visual stream]

All I want is living bodies

I can drag them through the mud and lose and blame it on myself and get better

[full nebula]

Darktide haircuts

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/kazuya-mishima-tekken-get-ready-gif-26417380

[hushed knoll]

It’s chicken

[stone fern]

how

[hushed knoll]

Was it not cooked

[visual stream]

Beats me

[hushed knoll]

Oh hi leggy bird

[visual stream]

HI STAN

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1201362226842443837/1388271314338316298/OH.gif

[burnt bobcat]

yall use keep swinging and/or full auto

[gleaming furnace]

yea

[visual stream]

no I take the carpal tunnel like a real man

(I use weapons that weren't made to feel bad without those mods)

[sullen forge]

evil fucked up havoc

[burnt bobcat]

i think thats about where i am lol
i always prefer marksman 1shot1kill weapons and stuff

and like, a lot of my preferred weapons have non-spam combos so keep swinging wouldnt do much for me

[void bison]

stuffed pepper tried to kill you

[misty nova]

No

[placid fiber]

Stalwart is nice for the damage reduction and the 2% more toughness per melee kill(which is a hidden bonus)

[void bison]

[placid fiber]

I have full auto downloaded, but, I have yet to use it. I don't use keep swinging

[next crow]

full auto is very good qol on laspistol/inf lasgun! i would 100% not use those weapons if i had to click for every shot

[earnest eagle]

hey whats the buff that constantly causes the yellow glow around your screen? i need to turn it off.

[misty nova]

Piety?

[earnest eagle]

is it fanatic rage?

[misty nova]

"Fanatic Rage - Enemies dying grants fury. Gain Crit at max stacks"

So yeah

[craggy jackal]

You could probably mod it out with custom UI

[acoustic dune]

ey ey people

zealot here

do you

you do

[brisk raft]

Do

[misty nova]

Who do you voodoo bitch

Aye aye do ya thang

[scenic folio]

Playing Vet made me realise how annoying grinding diffculties is

level 12 and only now unlocked malice, bruh

[ripe quest]

Shield of Contempt does it too. Procs when you take health damage if it's available.

[north sedge]

disablescreeneffects mod

[void bison]

hey hey people froggg here

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/glep-smiling-friends-gif-25392980

dis you?

[stone fern]

I HATE PARTY FINDER
remove all ranks make it 20 25 30 35 50 and add quickplay NOW

[void bison]

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-x-hunter-gif-1385292026447264066

[void bison]

chat chat chat chat chat chat

[runic grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/772897921732706304/875508251905642527/image0-2.gif

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/wash-froge-froge-mmm-yes-mmmm-gif-16683495

https://tenor.com/view/shower-frog-drip-drop-droplet-water-gif-14548636

[uneven galleon]

Do people use BM on tacaxe these days?

[misty nova]

They should

[craggy jackal]

You use BM on both axes

[spice wren]

Mmm chat where can I find myself a big bonk stick build

Also what is the dump stat on Thammer?

CC or defences?

[craggy jackal]

Defenses

[acoustic dune]

chat...

[craggy jackal]

Bonk boss killer build is the standard zealot build but with stealth

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-schizophrenia-gif-21206039

[spice wren]

I haven't done a build in forever

I waas probably gonna look for one on gameslantern

[craggy jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1392548732997861497/image.png?ex=68792a12&is=6877d892&hm=042d85bb70c59c10c7589d29caa78ba9259363f4b256bbc5d4f13a7d4873a52b&

The standard zealot build

I think marty is technically more damage but IJ is standard?

[north sedge]

do either marty or ij for hammer

[misty nova]

Once you play enough Martyrdom

You won't like IJ

[vast radish]

zealots, question. did they ever fix that quirk with eviscerators and fury of the faithful?

where you need to activate it mid-shred for maximum damage

[craggy jackal]

That’s still in the game

Not sure if it’s a bug either

[vast radish]

oh dear

alright

[median iris]

Costco

[quick mountain]

do zealots still use the crusher better than arbis?

oh and did the evi buffs make it a valid sidegrade to the relic blade yet or nah

[craggy jackal]

Arbites is p good with crusher and Evis can compete with relic but is still overall worse

[visual stream]

I haven't tried crusher much on zealot but I would imagine that Arb staggers things even better, but zealot uses its finesse better with duelist and crit keystone

Take that with a grain of salt though

[sullen forge]

Arb makes use of crusher better

[naive matrix]

https://youtube.com/shorts/KPqfqd3JNH0?si=agmipFaltdA14Ujd

i love that the judge zealot, terrifying and incredibly angry woman she is, plays the fucking accordion

also i love authoritarian arby he's so dumb

[obsidian prairie]

I like how two of these is just loose cannon being an asshole

[naive matrix]

loose cannon on top

[hearty nebula]

chat

[misty nova]

Yuh

Better dodges included

Fun fact

Crusher Arbiters have the worst dodge in the game

-14%

[ripe quest]

No it did not. Changes were misguided, and were fairly minor in the comparitive performance to Relic Blade.

[misty nova]

1.72m

Followed by FGS psyker

1.86m

[spiral anvil]

What do you think would make evis finally good?

[hard nexus]

its close to relic in a few ways, namely horde clear, and its got better anti common elites, but it still suffers against ogryns in havoc due to relying on revs for single target

but in aurics, relic and evis will perform aproximately similar

[ripe quest]

It'll need a pretty thorough passover. Two routes to take, rework it to be a bit more modern, or just path of least resistance buff the damage templates to be comparable to a bit under RB's average performance with some obv sidegrades to make it unique. The ideal would be nerfing RB, but alas prob won't happen since it's strong but not strong strong.

My personal take has always been 'make it always active' so you get sticky attacks on strikedowns/stabs and either normal cleave or sticky cleave depending on the sweep profile. Make the special attack its own move so you can pivot combos. You can then go really ham with the combos to ensure that there are routes to access normal cleave and sticky cleave sweep combos and still chain into the single target stuff. Also RB was cooking with the defensive activation and the sprint/slide actions, Evis should totally get them.

[spiral anvil]

It's still really awkward to do heavies vs rager clumps

[misty nova]

Just don't

[spiral anvil]

Yea...

[hard nexus]

yeah, luckily anti rager has been improved with mk3 due to H1 buffs

[misty nova]

Mk15 lights are weird and will stagger ragers

Self note, test that later with perfect strike

[spiral anvil]

Evis with a crazy 3x damage overhead activated after 1s of sprinting

[spice wren]

Since when did crushers have corrupted strikes?

[spiral anvil]

Maybe give it innate brittleness so it sells the fantasy more

[wary lagoon]

This true? By how much does it help?

[copper hawk]

It doesnt

This is a lie

There's a check in the code specifically for if you're literally physically alone

That sentiment was posted on reddit many moons ago and no one fact checked it at the time

And it sounded nice so it proliferated

Disablers will spawn just as frequently for an isolated loner Zealot as they would any other lonely character

[misty nova]

Since havoc lol

Basically all melee enemies on havoc have it

[wary lagoon]

There's a mod on nexus called "Catechisms from the Crucible" or something that's basically replacing the loading screen tips with... Actual tips.

[copper hawk]

Actual fibs

[wary lagoon]

I have no idea how accurate some of these "tips" are.

[copper hawk]

Id suggest asking for a second opinion like u just did here

A lot of code grease monkies here

[misty nova]

Loner
More like
Noner

[copper hawk]

Who are familiar w roundfish code spaghetti

[misty nova]

Hah

Got em

[copper hawk]

Or have played the game maybe too long

Which is where i fit

[wary lagoon]

I could post the raw txt file of all the tips that's being used for the mod.

See which ones are bad

[copper hawk]

Recently retired from Darktide..

[copper hawk]

That could be fun tbh

[misty nova]

Oldie

Point and Laugh

[copper hawk]

If it's got THAT falsehood as a hint then I Dee Kay

The Loner falsehood

I love spreadin misinformation on the internet..

[ripe quest]

The Evis already has such a fire sprint animation for a strikedown heavy after sprinting ye

[wary lagoon]

I have only started playing darktide recently, so I can't vet any of these for their accuracy.

[misty nova]

It's the year 2030
Every weapon in DT can attack from sprint with no delay

[wary lagoon]

So uh... Take like Rannick and give the txt file some light reading

[misty nova]

All classes have some sort of tagged enemy hunting Mechanic

[wary lagoon]

Better yet, roast the modmaker on nexus
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/554

[misty nova]

And a mecha as well

[copper hawk]

Except for zealot

Zealot has still had no rework

[median steeple]

Icky AI slop

[copper hawk]

Every other class

8 reworks

Vet has had 19

Cuz they cant get the talent tree right mby in another 30 yrs

[misty nova]

Dclaw receives the buff #32

Still sucks at flak

[median steeple]

If they ever fix its flak scaling it's gonna be crazy

[ripe quest]

And they never will!

[misty nova]

Still outfinessing everything

Truly

One of the classes ever

[ripe quest]

why would you play any class when you can DoD + Duelist and do 1.8 billion damage while hipfiring

[quick mountain]

hmm if evis aint doin too well, how bout the chaxe? ik it has its fans like reginald but how is it really? serviceable but off-meta? needs a buff?

[hard nexus]

evis is good

[ripe quest]

It's a single target leaning weapon, and it's pretty good at it. Its downside is crowd performance. Pretty much the Thunder Hammer for flak/carapace.

[hard nexus]

if you arent using it in h40, you wont have issues with it aside from not being able to stagger reapers without a rev

[ripe quest]

That goes for literally any weapon

[spice wren]

I wish I could get to h40 but the teammates I get from party finder are so ass

[quick mountain]

thunder hammer with more aura LOL

ok between thammer and chaxe which has more serviceable crowd performance then?

oh and which mark for the chaxe?

[ripe quest]

Thammer

[median steeple]

chaxe is sad

[acoustic dune]

ey ey chat

when ar ewe getting the 2 hand chain ace?

[spice wren]

I swear man these randos in havoc can't function at all

[median steeple]

use the 12 if you wanna use the chaxe but be warned it's sad

[ripe quest]

Mk IV has single target on the lights and crowd damage on the heavies/PA. It does less special rev damage. Mk XII has single target on the heavies/PA, and crowd damage on the lights. It does more special rev damage. It's somewhat a preference thing, both are good in their own right.

[hard nexus]

unless this person is asking specifically about h40

its fine to say evis is good

and evis IS good in havocs, it struggles with 2 things

bulwarks and reapers

thats it

as you need to rev to stagger

[quick mountain]

ideally havoc yea

[median steeple]

using reacts opinion invalid use your words you eunuch

[hard nexus]

which opens you up to shooters

[quick mountain]

i have a pretty even split between havoc and nonhavoc games

[ripe quest]

It's comparatively worse than quite a number of weapons, which is usually when I bring up that it's not great.

[hard nexus]

comparitively worse doesnt mean bad

[quick mountain]

mk iv's single target lights come with rev damage baked in outside the special right?

[spiral anvil]

What's bad then

[hard nexus]

compared to what? ds? knife? relic? taxe?

[median steeple]

doesn't kill god equal bad 💔

[hard nexus]

all overpowered weapons

being worse than an OP weapon does not mean a weapon is bad

mk3 evis needs a couple of final tweaks, mainly regarding stagger

and it will be perfect

[quick mountain]

ig i'll use chaxe but if the crowd performance makes me wanna die i go back to thammer

[median steeple]

if you're not playing havoc 20+ you can literally use anything without trying

[acoustic dune]

chat is this true

that the chain axe is just a lite thammer?

[median steeple]

stop worrying about meta weapons in auric

just have fun

[hard nexus]

im all 3

[ripe quest]

I didn't say it was bad. When I bring it up I'm saying it's comparatively worse than quite a number of weapons or that it's not in a good place, which it isn't. That latter bit referring to its design, how it was balanced, and the recent lower quality changes made to it. It's plenty fine to run in any difficulty, much like most other weapons.

[median steeple]

no I'm the jester

especially today

[north sedge]

It has better dmg into carapace than hammer (though this largely is noticeable on twins)

[quick mountain]

yeah i actually appreciate ex's input here

[acoustic dune]

chat
why cant we double duel relic sword?

[quick mountain]

im not big on the dichotomy on meta and fun, i try to find a compromise between the two

[acoustic dune]

whats stopping the zealot to hold 2 sword at once?

[quick mountain]

i look at the meta then work my way down until i find a good fun to strength balance between the two

i.e. using force sword over ds and knife on psyker

or using helbore over plasma gun

[misty nova]

Lack of faith

[craggy jackal]

The psyker force swords and hellebore notoriously non meta weapons

[spiral anvil]

FGS is easily the strongest option on psyker

Want to add vet powersword to that list

Also meta vs fun is a false dichotomy

[quick mountain]

i mean yea theyre still meta

my point wasnt that they WERENT meta

it's that they were meta i enjoyed as opposed to ds, plasma, knife, etc

[velvet orbit]

speaking of which is regular force sword good

[quick mountain]

if all the meta options suck and i dont enjoy it, then sure i move into nonmeta

[spiral anvil]

Deimos still has it's niche

[quick mountain]

a lot of ppl act like it is the moment someone asks about meta weapons by responding with "use what's fun!"

[spiral anvil]

Illisi doesn't hold up much anymore

[quick mountain]

like

you'd think use what's fun would be a given, no?

[tame sluice]

deimos and obscurus yes, illisi no

[spiral anvil]

It's hard to tell with online conversation with strangers because alot of times they are projecting some unvoiced opinion on the state of the game

[quick mountain]

fair enough

[craggy jackal]

Some people don’t actually use what they find fun

[quick mountain]

welp thats their loss

i just find it odd that that seems like the immediate assumption people have when they ask about weapon performance sometimes

but w/e discord gonna discord

ik relic blade's meta but im not really enjoying the combos so im probably gonna level that later on instead lol

[median steeple]

It's telling people to experiment instead of sticking to what people call good

[spiral anvil]

Too scary

[cedar rover]

Anyone have the book zealot build?

[spiral anvil]

If I can't blame the meta then I can't only blame myself

[ebon bobcat]

Middle

[spiral anvil]

An impossible thought

[carmine falcon]

Play Mark 2

[ebon bobcat]

Follow middle

[cedar rover]

Middle all the way?

[ebon bobcat]

Also is it just me or is this a rare moment where Zealot chat isn't insane?

[ebon bobcat]

Ye

[median steeple]

too much....

whinging

[ebon bobcat]

The last part you can get the left size

[ebon bobcat]

If you prefer crits

[spiral anvil]

Cool Taiping things

[plush estuary]

@sullen forge

[sullen forge]

Vet chat

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[quick mountain]

that's fair, although most of my experimentation boils down to "do i fw it" lmfao. these tide games and their tendency to obscure info makes it a lil annoying to get more than that

but anw got the info i needed, gonna run chaxe for a few games when i hop on

[spiral anvil]

I love thrust chainaxe

[lost pumice]

For a crit evis/piety build, is perfect strike/shred still the way to go?

[void bison]

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-in-time-virus-boy-got-that-virus-that-boy-got-that-virus-stuck-stuck-gif-27603933

[little urchin]

When I last touched darktide heavy sword/revolver were meta picks with rashad a close second

Whats the bees knees with shouty now

[craggy jackal]

Relic knife ds Taxe rashad

In no particular order

[little urchin]

Cool beans

What about ranged options

[craggy jackal]

Flamer bolter bistol revolver agri shotty brauto

Also in no particular order

[void bison]

what the fuck happened to my darktide? this is my level 29 arbites

[little urchin]

Okay it feels like maybe the mix didnt change too much then. New toys being mainly relic and dueling sword

Thanks!

[craggy jackal]

Combat shotty should be a bit beefier than you remember it got a nice buff

[quartz parrot]

Well that was my first ever time encountering a toxic player in pubs, was a level 1.4k Zealot that kept telling me "Settings to dodge and duck together, spam it then use overpressure for fast flamer reload"

After the mission, I had 200k more damage over him and he said "Learn to use a flamer, it's not hard"

[craggy jackal]

Dodge and duck on the same bind is something some people do

But yeah who cares lol

[vast basin]

Overpressure for fast reload? What?

[quartz parrot]

Yeah I don't know what they were on about

During mission too they called some of us "mfers" for not seeing his med callout from like 150m away then proceeded to place both the one he had and the one he found down when someone came to get it

[plush estuary]

I heard if you barrel people off the map they leave

try it out

tis how I remove smite psykers

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[visual stream]

I keep trying to get into psyker outside of like one or two specific builds and I just can't do it

I'm too movement and mechanic gameplay pilled

Only like the builds that enable hyper aggression

[craggy jackal]

Melee psyker

[visual stream]

Yeah

Dclaw revo soyker sucks but it's at least fun

FGS great and fun though

[acoustic dune]

Tbh I think fgs is best of both world

Have inf cleave meaning I can hit the trapper in the backline

Without any issue

[mighty root]

Sorry I’ll fix it

[mighty root]

Was me sorry

[mighty root]

Tac axe melee psyker

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-home-green-goblin-mask-shatter-norman-osborn-gif-25107432

[gaunt roost]

REAL

i can only play this class on fyres fgs melee build

[visual stream]

Scrier recon las is very fun too

Even if shrimple

[acoustic dune]

@heady rapids can you play sm2?

quickplay seem wacked

[heady rapids]

idk

I haven't played it in months

[quartz parrot]

I mean if it was you then apology accepted, end of the day we serve the Emperor

[void bison]

Spider Man 2

[frozen kernel]

https://youtu.be/Y4M8ugYSlhA Killing a DD target with Scrier’s up be like

[jagged cradle]

toxic played smh

[acoustic dune]

agreed
imagine stooping so low that you play smyker

[indigo kiln]

Mastering Relic Blade
Karnak Twins Mission
Blade runs out of heat and starts bouncing off the Twins
Die

[worldly agate]

skill issue

[ornate bone]

heat issue

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cats-cat-falling-gif-14250040379878929810

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[indigo kiln]

Srsly tho what do you even do against armor during Relic Blade downtime? Use a bolter or just run around like a chicken?

[sturdy cypress]

Heavy attacks still do damage to armor i think

Just not as much ofc

[placid fiber]

You do the single target combos and if possible use chastise with them

[indigo kiln]

got eet

[placid fiber]

It's better than the alternative which is death/relying on randos >.>'

[misty mason]

Did you wind up learning how to use the flamer?

freedom

[jagged cradle]

@hard nexus @copper hawk

[supple tendon]

Hey guys, do you know if Rolling Steel still works for the "Just a flesh wound" penance?

[misty nova]

It does

[supple tendon]

Thanks... I was kinda shocked after a comment on reddit 🙂

[acoustic dune]

your first mistake was using reddit

and not ask us the chad zealot chat

[thick fossil]

Did they change something in fury? I can no longer run through enemies unless my crosshair targets a enemy

[mighty root]

It wasn’t lol I was just jumping

[ivory marlin]

Yippee

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus

[hard nexus]

breaaaad

[misty nova]

https://fixupx.com/RivalsAlerts/status/1945711576285114423?s=19

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[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-shadow-wizard-casting-spell-nuke-radio-shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-5891421420314108364

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[acoustic dune]

chat i am gonna steal his soda

i swear to the emperor

[hushed knoll]

I don’t drink soda

[acoustic dune]

you dont drink water

[hushed knoll]

I drink seltzer

Which is carbonated water

[acoustic dune]

its soda

[hushed knoll]

It’s water

[hushed knoll]

DOUGH

Why are you up???

[acoustic dune]

stan its soda

[hushed knoll]

It’s soda water

[hushed knoll]

Dough go back to bed

You’re so tired

[north sedge]

It is 6:48am (before jesus)

[acoustic dune]

you gonna drink cofdee and stay awake?

also why is stan not asleep

[north sedge]

I don't drink coffee, just an early riser usually

[dull girder]

Hey guys, can i get some pointers with my build?
i got this: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f69a1d3-474a-473d-bc67-6979c8b971fb/wat-2
IDK if i should remove the 2 wounds perk and get scourge instead..

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

It’s 9:55am

[acoustic dune]

So?

Go to sleep eldritch soda addict

[north sedge]

Drop the wounds, only take that if you're doing martyrdom

[vast basin]

Drop everything below faithful frenzy

[acoustic dune]

Btw anyone has new about the rework or...

[vast basin]

I would take twbs with the extra points, switch blood redemption over

[misty nova]

Oh are you martyrdom?

If not insta bad build

And I didn't even check it yet

Oh it's

[dull girder]

like this?

[north sedge]

You should also use toughness curios

[spice wren]

Chat I forget is Quickplay Auric or Auric Maelstrom the best source of dockets

[misty nova]

Dockets? Mael

[dull girder]

yeah, got a second toughness curio from the shop a minute ago, all i had when i came back to the game were health ones

[spice wren]

k

Time to take big bonk stick into auric maels

need them dockets I'm finally broke

You get dick from havoc in terms of money

[dull girder]

so i ended up with this

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f69a1d3-474a-473d-bc67-6979c8b971fb/wat-2?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

2x 16% toughness curios instead, blue ones >.<

[misty nova]

Yeah that's better

[north sedge]

Just upgrade em when you can

[hushed knoll]

I have to make breakfast

[acoustic dune]

Stan....

What are you making

[dull girder]

yeah, working on farming to get the weapons to 500 and after that the curios

[hushed knoll]

Yummy

[acoustic dune]

Atleast it's not bacon

Either way

Idk what I am looming at

[violet hornet]

The floppy bacon of oatmeal

[misty nova]

Not to get political
But what the hell is oatmeal 🗣️

[hushed knoll]

It’s oatmeal

[sturdy cypress]

A meal of oats ofc

[hushed knoll]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oatmeal

[hushed knoll]

It’s got milk, salt, brown sugar, and cinnamon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porridge

[acoustic dune]

Good god stan

Are you OK?

You need a rice cooker

[carmine falcon]

brotherman why are you eating puke

[violet hornet]

Stan enjoying that medieval cuisine

[hushed knoll]

It’s oatmeal

[carmine falcon]

more like

shitameal

[hushed knoll]

It’s a normal breakfast

[violet hornet]

Scroatmeal

[acoustic dune]

medival?

this shit worse

its colonial

[hushed knoll]

People literally eat oatmeal fro breakfast idk what to tell you

[acoustic dune]

eat rice?

and eggs?

[north sedge]

Oatmeal is fine, does seem undercooked though

[hushed knoll]

Nobody here eats rice

For breakfast

Or very few people do

[hushed knoll]

I microwaved it for 2 minutes

[north sedge]

I will sometimes if i have leftovers i can reheat then drop a fried egg on top

[acoustic dune]

WTF STAN

[hushed knoll]

They’re quick oats

That’s what the package says

[acoustic dune]

dude use a stove

[hushed knoll]

Coins can’t eat breakfast

[hushed knoll]

I only use a stove for cooking breakfast if I’m making eggs or Bulgaria

Bacon

[acoustic dune]

why would eat a 2min oatmeal?

[hushed knoll]

Because it’s oatmeal

[acoustic dune]

then cook it properly

[hushed knoll]

It’s cooked properly

The oats are thinner to cook quickly

[acoustic dune]

i dont count the microwave oatmeal or anything proper stan

[hushed knoll]

You can use the stove or microwave

[hushed knoll]

😒

Also who uses the mouse to switch through tabs

Or go forward and backward

I mean

[north sedge]

What

[acoustic dune]

i swear if someone give me a 2 min microwave rice

i would feel disrecpect

do you not feel shame stan?

[spice wren]

You know what would be a fun buff

for Martydom

Corrupted wounds give 2 stacks of marty

[acoustic dune]

ok hear me out

temporary health

[spice wren]

wym?

[acoustic dune]

instead of having toughness

it turn into health

[spice wren]

Interesting but then one gunner would turn you into swiss cheese

[acoustic dune]

it would turn you into swiss cheese either way

[misty nova]

Not with that attitude

[spice wren]

Idk man

with 10 stacks of martydom

You'd be less cheese

assuming u run 2 wound curious 1 toughness curious

12 martydom stacks if you go with all wound curious

[north sedge]

Marty doesn't need a buff

[misty nova]

I mean

It caps at 7

💀

[spice wren]

Can you even hit 7 wounds? Lol

At max difficulty

[misty nova]

Yes and no

You can have 7 wounds at Damnation

You can't have 7 stacks of martyrdom at damnation

[craggy jackal]

Heresy and above is 7 wounds max with the exception of mortis trials

[spice wren]

Yeah

I meant 7 stacks of marty

yeah it's literally impossible to get the full potential of marty at max difficulty lol

[craggy jackal]

Correct

[spice wren]

Lame

Corrupted wounds = double marty stacks would fix this..

[misty nova]

The alternative is making the +2 wounds talent give you +3 if you have 3 wound curios equipped

[spice wren]

Assuming you ran 2 wound 1 toughness curious you'd only have to have 1 corrupted wound and 5 regular wounds to get max stacks of marty which still leaves you 2 wound blocks to play the game

Yeah I mean just buffing the wound perk would also work

[real sonnet]

How about we actually make Martyr's purpose good instead...

This way Martyrdom is more appealing without directly buffing it

[spice wren]

How do you do that lol when piety gives you such good crit buffs and momentum gives you better bonk stick potential

[misty nova]

Momentum is shit though

[real sonnet]

Well just make Martyr's purpose generate ability faster based on the amount of missing wounds

[misty nova]

Not a lot of +melee

[real sonnet]

Something like idk, +125%/+150% generation at max stacks

[misty nova]

Not a lot of +attack speed

Not a lot of tdr

The dodges buffs is whatever

[spice wren]

This would be brutal ngl

[real sonnet]

FOR THE EMPEROR

[spice wren]

Running crit zealot with marty in that configuration would be like the old relic spam zealot

[acoustic dune]

erm yes it does?

like 10 more wound?

[misty nova]

1

[acoustic dune]

i want more wound then health point?

[real sonnet]

I guess you could always also make it so that choosing 1 CDR talent blocks the other 2

[misty nova]

So you can get 8 at Damnation

[real sonnet]

Could work IMO

Because crit cdr + backstab cdr is already crazyyy

So if Martyr's purpose was made good then that means you could do this and now zealots would be forced to pick just one

[spice wren]

need more boltgun skins

[misty nova]

Me with only 4

[real sonnet]

We need good duelling sword skins

AKA GIVE ME A FUCKING RAPIER ALREADY

WHY DIDN'T THEY MAKE A RAPIER SKIN FOR THE DUELLING SWORD YET

VICTOR SALTZPYRE IS WAITING

[dull girder]

Ok, my relic sword is now 500 finally :D. should i save to upgrade curios or Bolter next? (im missing 1 toughness curio still)

[carmine falcon]

upgrade da boltah

[craggy jackal]

I mean

All of the damage stats are maxxed

[dull girder]

wish there was a way to change my default server matchmaking region >.< im from south america and there are like 2 people playing this game apparently... queues never pop

[dull girder]

1 upgrade made it to 80 damage yeah

[craggy jackal]

Yeah you don’t actually need to upgrade it further unless you like the number being 500

Maybe upgrade mobility until it gives you an extra dodge if you’re not at max dodges yet

[carmine falcon]

press E in mission board

[dull girder]

yeah, i meant to not have to do that every time i log in

[modern lintel]

suffer

[cold aspen]

should i put flak and maniac on mark 15 heavy evisc? or should it be something like flak+carapace?

[ivory marlin]

Saw a tiktok of a zealot one shotting a plague ogryn with thammer

[cold aspen]

they do be doing that

[ivory marlin]

Poor guy went flying

[dull girder]

😄

[misty nova]

What's your keystone?

[cold aspen]

BP

[misty nova]

Unyielding + Flak/Maniacs

Or even unarmored for 1 heavy weakspot dreg gunner

[cold aspen]

shred+rampage?

[misty nova]

You can go Shred Perfect Strike on bp

Shred Rampage works as well

Or Shred Savage Sweep

[dull girder]

Is the heavy evis still capped at 3 target cleave?

Or was it 4

[vestal gull]

Didn’t they remove the limit in the buff?

[north sedge]

They adjusted the cleave in the arbites patch

[misty nova]

Removed

Currently

The only capped weapon that we know of

[dull girder]

adjusted how? sorry i came back to the game like this week, should read at least that patch notes lol

[misty nova]

Is tactical axe at 3

[dull girder]

Oh cool

[misty nova]

And chain Axe

At 4

[drowsy steppe]

dclaw propaganda

[spice wren]

Which mark of relic blade is better

I was told Mk II but man

it does not feel better

[misty nova]

The one you like

They pretty much perform similarly

[spice wren]

Ah okay

[north sedge]

It is preference

[spice wren]

I'm going back to the other one

it feels more cleave heavy

[craggy jackal]

It don’t be

But it can be simpler since the first two lights are horizontal and you can just do those over and over

[spice wren]

yeah the Mk II has no horizonal lights at all

[violet hornet]

It is, mk2 is better vs single targets

Iirc mk2 has a light heavy (or heavy light) loop for horde clear that's almost horizontal

[drowsy steppe]

it has a diagonal L3

H2 > L3 keeps looping

[coarse birch]

Mostly preference as said here ye

Mk2 has a bit longer moveset

[craggy jackal]

Both can flick cancel the slide stab

So they have the same single target

[ivory marlin]

Hi mal

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-wave-hello-hi-sup-gif-16159238468026206620

[violet hornet]

Well don't tell the mk2 fanboys that lol

[spice wren]

Incredible bro

I'm completely glitched in this mortis trial

I'm just standing here in thirdperson

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eye-twitch-cat-eye-twitch-cat-camera-gif-26361958

[misty nova]

Mutant moment

[spice wren]

Wasn't a mutie

were no muties that whole round

[ivory marlin]

I was playing mortis a bit ago and no randoms joined

At like wave 8

It was oops all plague ogryn

[spice wren]

Just lost wave 12 mortis because both of the ogryns on my team

Were actual morons

[ivory marlin]

Very un fun

[spice wren]

I got vored by a BoN and literally spent like 2 minutes inside of it

Because I had such high corruption reduction it couldn't deplete my health

[craggy jackal]

How do you knock someone out

[spice wren]

but both the ogryns saw me get eaten and just ran away

[misty nova]

Aim for the chin

Not a lot of impact reduction there

[spice wren]

Man purg flamer has so many cool ass blessings

[plush estuary]

cool yes

useful, not many

[spice wren]

Showstopper, everlasting flames, penetrating flame..

[upbeat grail]

Yesterday I used the Mortis Pyro tree with the Flamer

That was a lot of fun

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/jamescord-logs-easter-egg-cat-gif-16709153618529670096

[ebon bobcat]

Why Brazilian meme?

[full nebula]

Idk, idk what it says i just found it randomly in tenor

[ebon bobcat]

It says that you are open to be sent questionable files on your DMs

[full nebula]

This is the dm

[spice wren]

I wish a curse apon people who request to join a havoc group

join

and then leave once we start departing for mission

[slow stag]

what kind of curse apron ?

[spice wren]

The curse of break line failure

and check engine light

[acoustic dune]

people still play mortis?

[craggy jackal]

The penance farm activity

[spice wren]

https://youtu.be/IseXudxzkO8?si=3jRLWA7qC4IHqP3f&t=845

Holy fuck bro

This meme hit hard 😔

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-im-interested-im-listening-gif-4501197

[plush estuary]

@green yacht

[drowsy steppe]

lmao

[wheat locust]

Hello guys. A couple question.

If I already have the bleeding skill from the right side of the tree, is it worth to put the bleeding bless on the knife? Or it's the other way around (bless on and skill off) better?

And on that consideration, is it better to go for a crit build or a martyr build for the knife?

[craggy jackal]

You can do both but the non bleed blessings for knife are generally considered better

Knife likes crit but you can do either

[misty nova]

The talent is all you need
It feeds itself

And crit will just synergize better with it

https://x.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1945866239781302596?s=19

Faz (@ScrambledFaz)

Persona 4 Revival Steam page is up

https://t.co/9zvIMzk7w7

X · Jul 17, 2025, 3:20 PM

[dull girder]

Just saw the pin that says should dump collateral on the boltgun instead of mobility and i sold the one i had like that >.<

[north sedge]

It doesn't matter that much

[dull girder]

Yeah i guessed that for a secondary weapon its no big deal, but my OCD brain will start bothering me soon lol

[north sedge]

It's more that it just won't make much of a difference

For the most part people just get real excited when they can potentially dump something other than mobility, even though mobi scales so little it won't matter really

[dull girder]

Oh

[frosty herald]

@spare talon

[misty nova]

They got mid up

🗣️

"Mid" when literally any version of I'll Face Myself starts playing

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-music-monkey-monkey-listening-to-the-music-monkey-chill-vibin-gif-24320967

Unfortunately none of the persona songs stand up to

Footsteps of time

From Persona Q

[real sonnet]

The point of the bleed talent is to win up to 30% more critrate

The bleeding itself is irrelevant

You could use laceratte to practically garantee scrounge proccing

[craggy jackal]

Lacerate over flesh tearer in 2025

[wheat locust]

Got it. What blessings are good on it then?

[real sonnet]

On knife?

[craggy jackal]

Uncanny precog

[real sonnet]

Depends what you wanna build towards

[craggy jackal]

Riposte is an option if you don’t run piety

Flesh tearer is the blessing you take if you must have bleed

[real sonnet]

Most common is uncanny precog for best anti elite

There's also uncanny flesh tearer for more well rounded dmg

Riposte if you want more raw crit chance

I'd say always run uncanny

2nd one depends on what you wanna do with it

[wheat locust]

Running like a madman and frontstabbing everything I see.

[real sonnet]

I guess uncanny precog then

[wheat locust]

Aye!

Thanks.

Final question, is there the risk that I end up wasting some affinity? Can I go over 100%? Like in Monster Hunter for example.

[obtuse stirrup]

Flesh Tearer is pretty good tbh

[craggy jackal]

What’s an affinity

Like crit chance?

[obtuse stirrup]

Rending only stacks up to 100%

same with crit

[wheat locust]

Yeah, sorry. That.

[craggy jackal]

You can exceed 100 but it doesn’t do anything

[obtuse stirrup]

anything beyond that is lost

so the 5th stack of uncanny strikes rank 4 already does nothing iirc lol

[craggy jackal]

Rending can go beyond 100% but only at 1/4 effectiveness

Or so

[obtuse stirrup]

I mean, you can have +100% rending stat

and no more

but on an enemy, your rending is effective up until the enemy's armour damage taken from you is equal to as if they were unarmoured, and after that point it's 25% as effective

[heady rapids]

and +20% dmg

[obtuse stirrup]

it's awkward lol

[craggy jackal]

Yeah that’s what I meant

[obtuse stirrup]

I mean, awkward to put into words

[heady rapids]

@acoustic dune

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/retsuko-cringe-reddit-ethan-gif-19172515

[visual stream]

Arby maul on zealot when

Let's get another dueling sword situation

ALL human classes pilfer the arbmauls

[elder maple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/M9aDD8HMsWo?si=nuyATW3kXPmbri5s

[heady rapids]

https://fixvx.com/i/status/1945731618326602080

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Checking in on Pirate Software

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[elder maple]

Bruh I can’t go anywhere without seeing his face

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-spiderman-far-from-home-everywhere-i-go-i-see-his-face-i-see-his-face-everywhere-i-go-gif-22706003

[violet hornet]

Ew, harko thopter set