#zealot-class
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unless you're playing a weapon with a crit blessing I wouldn't count on having much dr outside of benediction + martyrdom keystone dr
You get a maximum of 39% tdr from left node marty on heresy and above
And you get 15% from benediction
You might have taken a 5% tdr node, I’m not sure
~52% tdr
Sounds right
Where’s 20 coming from
Base DR nodes
4 5% tdr nodes?
Delete that nest over there
I think you multiply those all separately but I don’t remember
Sustained assault
Yep always take skill
oh
the shroudfield modifier?
Oh is it only for shroud?
That ones not bad but generally taken if you are going inexorable justice
im confused
The backstab cdr node
So 59 base passive DR
Good balance only lasts 2.5 so I don't wanna waste two points for that
Worth nothing that good balance is full dr and not tdr
But on martyrdom you might not want health dr
This player doesnt like dodging that much
*or should be
For now, anyway
I dodge some around the ragers and big guys
But for the most part I've never needed to
Which makes sense because you don’t take any talents that give you massive buffs for dodging
It just feels like unnecessary steps
It hinders your gameplay
But you don’t really need to play at maximum potential until havoc really
Even in auric you can kinda run whatever if you’re good enough
gonna bite you in the ass eventually
real?
Playing Aneurism 4 as a liquidator, at the doctor to get my tap water contracted worms treated, and a cop comes up, says nothing, and shoots him in the face four times
I ask why he did that, he says "he had contraband"
his three other gooners in the same squad said "yeah he shouldn'ta done that"
five minutes later every single cop in the city is running around asking where the doctors are
my brother in fascism, I feel like you should know where they are
my first time playing
i sniffed glue
started tweaking so hard i couldnt see
and my friend went to go find me some schizopram
so i sat outside a pharmacy as he searched
and while i waited, a cleaner came up to me
and a cop
and started asking me what i was doing
i told them i was tweaking on glue and couldnt see
and they said "get back to work"
"i cant see officer"
"GET TO WORK"
then he lit me on fire
LMAO
What
Liquidator (cleaner) is my favorite role so far
Been waiting to try the healer/corpsman(?) though
I'll tell you, if metalworks isn't busy with other labor, that is HUGE anamnocyte farming
and then i heard someone else screaming on fire and then a gunshot
and silence
i think they thought someone else was me
true !
i need to work at the wartime factory though
havent tried it ye
ive only got 3 hours
Me neither
I think metal also goes there but Idk
What did I come back to
average day in the factory
LKMFAO
i yearn for trainns,,,
peam
Oh yeah my friend was actually the doctor who got shot four times in the face
Him and like three other doctors had the same thing happen to them so they just started a cult to rot the world and destroy the city
awesome
the scum are the good guys
Truly
Last night while I was metalworking, a cop and a banker kept blocking the way back inside from the mine and demanding coal and metal taxes
Keep in mind I only had a pipe while they had pickaxes, which takes half the time that pipes do
But instead of mining themselves they were playing aneurism 4 auto clicker
aneurysm 4 looks cool
Train autism
Uncanny strike and precog on combat knife?
Yeah
And flakiac?
What blessings and perks on bolter
puncture shattering unyielding flak/carapace
It’s sad I feel like I can’t proc my dodge stuff b/c everything is always staggered
real !
trying to kill something and then dog kills it in front of you
try to fight rager pack
staggered
its just
so
BORING
OH MY GOD
weeh,,,
i hate arbites
Yeah I rarely get duelist or precog or stuff
Or bully club rumbler
Book and shout spam also staggering
I actually outdmg arbs in duos but then in a 4 man I struggle to keep up
So I have to abuse flamer
Line up the perfect shot
Dog staggers everything
Killing myself and putting Dog Arbitrator players as my reason why
Why not shattering fire and cavalcade
Or Pinning
Veteran 🤝 Zealot
Actively getting fucked over by a dog user
I do not understand people who don't wipe public toilet seats down and cover them in toilet paper before they sit down
A surprising amount of people do not do EITHER
Definitely zealot chat
You will never be confused as to where you are if you're in here
I don't do it since I don't use public toilets
Well gen chat got worse than zealot chat's lowest point yesterday actually so
oh man I missed it
Literally talking about arbitrator fucking their dog as a fanfic
"you better not drop on me"
plotted against from the start
shee
Back at it again today I see
Witch hunting rule
when you choose lone wolf your dog is temporarily assigned to a dog cafe
If you wanna see it's relatively recent
istfg Gen chat makes me suicidal reading it sometimes
this made me enter a state of agony that is neither close to life or close to death
never goon
never goon eggman gif my beloved
Should've seen it yesterday
Exponentially worse
Now that I think about it
I saw no Maulers or Scab Ragers
No wonder my shield H2 went freely
I never venture into general chat unless I accidentally click on it
uncharted territory...
dreg mission?
I hate dregs
With the occasional Ogryn/Bulwark
I hate dreg ragers more than scab ragers
Easiest H40 I've played so far
Should've brought a Dclaw and top damaged
and dreg gunners are somehow more of a threat than the guys with hellguns
Brought slab shield and literally bullied 500 ragers in a corner
Infinite cleave goes brrrr
this shocking stuff penance is gonna be the death of me
> Slab shield
> Ogryn weapon
> Ogryn player
> -5000 respect

Carnival mission flamer
That’s the tech
carnival
I thought they nerfed the endless dregs
There are enough there
Lemme get true level
What blessings and perks do I put on the fire shotty?
wdym AIIEEYAH you don't WHEEZE like dreg MOOTASH PHARG ragers
worlds driest cough as well
[bronchitus cough]
I love that instead of different voices, they have different pitches of the same voice
DRG reference
So the same guy sounds like either an old man or a baby
Chat, please help, is it no respite full bore or scattershot manstopper
I should definitely get my zealot past 500
scattershot is +crit chance right
yes
I would say scattershot manstopper since the spread is massive on the kantrael
However
COMBATENTE
wcombatente 🗣️
or you could also run the crit bleed + manstopper as a meme but apparently its bad
Don't remember if you need +unyielding though
INTERROGADORA INICIANTE 🗣️
Fire shots go through bulwark shield?
Nope
they still proc fire
They pierce only the shield
makes sense
And stop after bulwark
me when I get shot with dragons breath shells and its very warm
ok, I'm just gonna do this cause it looks funny
Or
Chat
Scattershot + flachette?
Cause I already have infinite cleave with special ammo
And just kill shit with dots
Will it work?
works and is also fun
With PtU and+Unyielding
It survived with 37 HP remaining
my colossus toads just took psychotropic shrooms and beer
Real zealot experience
oh my goodness gracious
depending on how early game you are, your next raid might be a bit painful lol
I should definitely grind my zealot to 500
Or my Psyker to 600
Special ammo doesn't have infinite cleave.
Is the mk 2 Tactical Axe the preferred Taxe?
That or 7
I haven't played in 8 months and am just coming back. What's good these days? It looks like getting good weapons is easy now
Dueling Sword
Relic Blade
Knife
Eviscerator
Crusher
Not in order
Relic blade?

Still it's a ton of cleave
2 handed power sword
New weapon. 2h power sword, activation is a toggle with a heat bar.
Recent addition
Does absurd damage.
Good cleave?
used with crit builds? I think it used to be combat blade, Taxe, chainsword, and Heavy evis for crit builds
What blessings and perks on Rashad axe
Yeah it has a finesse modifier
Taxe also literally just got buffed
bm headtaker flak unarmored
Assuming Taxe 2 still uses Headtaker and brutal momentum I may start there
that's what I have
Yep
Which recon Las mark is best
Better than Evis at least 
Have a talent setup you could recommend? It looks like mine have all been reset, which makes sense.
2 for ammo economy
12 for brrrrrr
This is the standard zealot build
14 for big damage cleave
Go piety it seems you want crit
They all suck on zealot
There's a 2?
Oh we use knife now
Old names lol
or do we use it because the perks for grenade are booty.
That build is for Havoc only. The other paths are fine for normal play, or if you're just good at the game. Throwing Knives have Second Wind & Enduring Faith, very solid survivability nodes that Zealot can keep up constantly.
I dunno if it’s a strict havoc build, it’s just the standard build
Bolter bistol revolver flamer the good autogun slug shotty
The only time you'd ever need to use a preset build like that is Havoc. You can do Auric HiStG with basically anything and be fine. Creator of that guide to my knowledge also commented on this, it's just the recommended havoc pathing.
I think you can run anything
Yeah it’s generally agreed upon that you can run whatever you want in auric if your gameplay makes up for it but that’s not the build contributing to that
And it's not particularly set either, you can very easily run Stun, Beacon of Purity, and Chorus/Shroudfield pathing in Havoc with little to no issue. Immos and Loner can be a bit constrained, but ultimately result in workable builds.
A baseline to get back into some Zealot gameplay is what I'm looking for
I don't know anything about Havoc scaling yet
stupidass soccer manga
Not to mention that that build in particular is just if you want to be a frontliner. In Havoc TRS & FiF have very tangible regeneration in coherency (something you maintain a lot) and the buy in is often just 1 point and using your low value 3rd curio perk slot. The times when you need the coherency regen are the ones where you don't have enemies to farm toughness off of, and it is effectively always on when fighting most bosses.
To combo with this, Vicious Offering's pathing is handy for Martyrdom setups, EWEW being the only real tax node (esp when doing FiF/TRS or also running Second Wind). Pathing through Loner can save a point when running Shroudfield (great damage ult for finesse weapons), the Beacon of Purity/Chorus route is commonly visited for support builds. Works out that you can actually justify pathing through most of the tree, the most annoying part being Immos but those are really good grenades.
How much cleave does manstopper give exactly?
It sets your cleave to math.huge, iirc that's 1.797693e+308 hitmass.
huh
ok maybe finite then
2 toughness 1 stam still for curios?
Stamina is just for if you need it. Usual recommendation is 3x toughness curios.
That’s one of the options
128 targets is the game's hardcap
It can be 128 targets of anything though, so long as there's no carapace involved
@acoustic dune
:(
Well, time to do some runs. Hopefully resources aren't as miserable to get as they used to be.

Casual Unstoppable Force w

Supposedly if you play havoc you swim in them
Well I don't want to jump into havoc and burden some people. I'll start with Aurich
Relic blade does look cool though
I've gotten like 800 or so plasteel in one auric match so that'll do you alright
What's wrong
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saw celine in mah game yesterday
like seeing bigfoot
We have to start documenting these sightings
What are some weapons that fucking shred ragers
I hate ragers
They are basically the only thing my taxe can't kill easily
I mean ranged
Cause I wanna use taxe
And ragers just annihilate me if there are more than 4
And there are usually more than 4
tac axe
Tac axe is the dedicated rager bullying weapon
How
My special attack staggers one at a time
and my normal attacks don't do anything to them
That doesn't stagger them and they keep comboing
It should
Because it does on psyker
And if it doesn't just take Grievous Wounds
it does on veteran
Relic blade mk 10
Use heavy laspistol trust
Not with that attitude
You will kill at least one rager per magazine
It’s a bit
You recommended Vigis
Their bash is one of the greatest stagger in the game

See that flimsy stock wire?
Yeah
Bash against the ogryn
It just works
I just remembered why I couldn't stagger them and why I wanted a ranged option to kill them
It's final toll
Oh my gods
"Why can't I stagger the unstaggerable enemies"
so far the autopistol is good
But I don't understand the different between just shooting and aiming with rmb
Doesn't seem to change much
34 mins in the end event of this mission
oggy and vet are fresh 30s
i got shot by a sniper
and took damage due to 500 ragers
until that end event i took 3 damage
the amount of tox bombers and tox flamers were silly
@spare talon i like playing in the mud and eating sand
so glad i had stalwart and good balance
i love tac axe
God why are so many people rage quitting nowadays
had a guy get blown up by a poxie he missed and he instantly left
had that on lock
His shit blew up irl
Had a C4 strapped to his chair
Playing on hardcore mode
what weapons do you like to use together with your tac axe?
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replace nowadays with everyday
i thought this is what subway surfers was made for
It's a great time to read a lil infantryman's uplifting primer
Relic blade, knife, heavy sword
Crusher
Uhhhhhj
Guh
What the fuck is wrong with all of you
I ask for what ranged weapons should I use to kil ragers with tac axe
You answer fucking relic blade
I ask for what weapons do you use with your tac axe
You answer FUCKING RELIC BLADE
YES
I LOVE USING TAC AXE AND RELIC BLADE IN MY BUILD
BEST COMBO IN THE GAME
kill the ragers with the tac axe
I CAN'T IT'S FUCKING FINAL TOLL
Shredder auto
spearhead boltgun ezpz
kill the ragers with your relic blade
bop em on the head with the tac axe
y'know how Christians have Bible verses memorized n shit
cause it isn't a book
the books a prop
Literally illiterate
Vigi (:
nah man, tac axe and relic blade pairing is better
I guess I am playing fucking Bardin Slayer
Fuckign I DOnt need ranged
Just get tac axe and relic blade
use the mk8 exaction shotgun
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bbbbbbbut u cant 1 shot things all the time with it!!!!
The ammo is the only problem with it but not like that matters when it just kills everything 😭
(i'm gonna upgrade it ofc) but i'm thinking like
Hand Cannon and Crucian Roulette?
What does it mean when an enemy is glowing red from a flamethrower?
it also feels so good with the 20% reload perk
Yeah that’s pretty standard, the alternative to roulette is surgical
Usually crucian isn't taken just due to the inconsistency, being able to rely on 100% crit chance for hand-cannon makes the weapon feel smoother.
hand cannon then a crit chance increase
Havoc?
surgical/point blank/crucian
he wants to kill you...
Ainz I had a vision listening to the Authoritarian Arby
And thus I made it thing
I see it
welcome back Takeo Masaki
That’s actually sick
No idea
Now imagine if you had a katana (devils claw)
Wait I think I know who that is...
LMAO
Im just bored as fuck
I've been watching food market videos for the past hour after I got out of that game
Honestly take away his chain sword and give him dc
You can use tac axe to make him feel like a samurai
Like hitokiri from the hit game for honor
does zealot have a different bolter build than vet
What's the blessings and perks for a good tac-axe?
Pinning fire/shattering impact + puncture
Unyielding + Cara
lmfao why is it good
Unarmored + flak , headtaker + brutal momentum with a mobility dumpstat
As for mk 2 or 7
I'm using mk 7
Beast mode
Much appreciated
im using shattering impact and puncture
That’ll work
I can’t use bolter on vet
I have the throwing knife trick ingrained into me
I’ll try to use it on vet and pull out my nade
does pinning fire reduce ttk on cara

I have no idea
as opposed to shattering impact and puncture
I use it for bosses and crushers
i need my bolter to kill crushers even faster lol
Then yeah this will do
Can build it a few ways. Surgical/Pinning/Fire Frenzy is common. Shattering Impact is just for Crushers and Maulers. Puncture doesn't do much outside of padding breakpoints in the case that you miss a 1 shot by a little damage.
Willpower
cause it hates you
hmmm
getting the shroudfield /backstab and loner penances is taking wayyy too long
@mighty root what about rashad combat axe? perks and blessings?
Brutal momentum and headtaker imo
If piety unarmored and flak with brutal momentum and headtaker
With ij is diff
oh i dont use ij
Flak cara
I was referring to blessings mb
Yes for tac and combat unarmored is needed
Oh same thing
Oh ok
Bm headtaker
anyone got tips?
im not used to using shroudfield
dont like it very much
or backstabbing all the time
@ripe quest why the eyes 
Hmmm I’d probably just farm it by standing still in a mission with bots
Just back stab the specialist
its such a pain, theres a penance that requires you to have to loner activated, so I have to run around ahead and away from my team backstabbing some goons
Yeah I hate stealth as well
also I got knife to max mastery with precog and uncanny strike but I think i dont know how to use it
are you supposed to only do heavies

Cant seem to do Shocking Stuff for the life of me, Ive been using the flamer in Damnation missions but cant seem to get there, I dont really have anyone to help me with it but do you guys have tips for me to do it solo?
Light spam pa heavy all of it lol
theres a dumpster or a corner somewhere, i forgot where exactly, you can camp there and after wave 3 and onwards youl get huge mobs you can clear it on
Thats actually huge for me, Ill look into it, thanks bossman
you can also do it on the map where the twins fight is , right in the beginning you have to drop into a garbage dump
literally as soon as you drop stay there and just wait for a horde to spawn, that space is small and narrow, so you can do it there
Ive actually been trying to qp into it because I already passed it in my story and its not available anymore
I am using DB more than my own melee, got a mod to check stats, I deal 100k less damage than the people actually skilled at this game but it's so fun.
Yet I am against just playing Veteran
because I want to keep playing Zealot for melee and backstabs
but DB is so fun
whats db
ah
i still havent gotten a rolled one
never tried it
rn Im levelling bolt pistol and rashad
Oh I am having A LOT of fun.
Unlike boltgun DB's ammo economy is fuckin' great.
I never run out of ammo, and I don't have to even steal ammo pickups
I just literally never run out of ammo by taking scraps that no-one else takes.
agri shotgun is my fav zealot ranged gun so far
i prefer it to the bolter
bolter is great, but agri shotgun is so convenient to use
Felt the need to share this
The mod ConstantFOV has an option to tweak darktide's post-process FOV filter, but it can't really distinguish between the first person camera and other cams
So now my intro cutscenes are very ominous and foreboding
Probably dont have the Rhythm down, DB Weapon Specialist vet is pretty fucking insane for the class atm
What's weapon specialist?
its a talent on vets tree
you can gamble to get the best curios?
Time to actively gimp myself so @median steeple Can actually beat me on scoreboard
🚬
What purpose does the +unarmored serve?
Scab Bruiser breakpoints
is there some way to get the max stat curios, i just check the armory and melks shop
You don't need unarmored to hit that.
To one shot them
Yes you do
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kGE5oLyOrQzhXGqBP?invite=cr-MSxmQWYsMTk0NjM5OTEy I've been jorking it since we've been getting campaign missions
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I’m 80% sure atleast
Keystone on Veteran
With headtaker, bm and sustained assault
right side of the tree
Deltarune Song

Pair it with this and it becomes disgustingly strong on Vet
@ripe quest on vet you need it I know, and it even says in ainz guide
If running bp on zealot use unarmored and unyielding
Me casually having this blaring the entire time
Every zombie song https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE4CE8488145CA2A5
►Kevin Sherwood media and music links: https://linktr.ee/ksherwoodops
Mix/mastering: https://twitter.com/s3ckert
Vocals: https://www.youtube.com/elenasiegmanmusic
I just have this song on loop at this point
So you get 10 melee kills then oneshot a special with DB?
Wonder who that idiot is
3
you only need 3 for 100% Crit
Oh.
anything else is just a firerate bonus up to 10
It’s 33% a stack
You can cut it to one stack with Scattershot and Reciprocity
@ripe quest you doubt me but look at these holy words
Run this on Double Barrel
you can literally delete entire droves of elite hordes
stupidest shit ever on Veteran
I like to run Flechette because it makes it more consistent at killing things I do hit
Ooo
Instead of shooting more often
Both are good picks though
But Manstopper is mandatory
You just need a solid melee choice cause your DB is more of a "Fuck that entire area" weapon
128 targets of cleave
I run uh both barrels/fullbore on my DB for zealot since I don't bring it into hav
Targets meaning anything that isn’t carapace
I tested with plague ogryns and it will pen 128 of them
Rashad, Knife, Power Sword
Vet chat invasion
You hit the breakpoint w/ Headtaker up assuming basically any damage talent is active. iirc though Duelist needs 2 melee stat nodes. You easily hit it w/ sustained assault.
Thanks it's from Heartbreak_Juan on twitter
I also run this one from Dessoirprinces
Ty <3
Psycho's Goat Furry Arc
Holy 133k followers
There's something wrong with the guide if the game doesn't agree with it.
Oh
bleak
I didn't notice this till now
my discord pfp is from their Dessriel comic
it ended?
yes
LMAO
How was it exactly
idk
I heard it was still bad
Course it is lmao
I had hopes they'd kinda change a few things like LIMITED STIMS
holy shit that drove me up a wall
I mean same thing on vet
Both vet and zealot need the unarmored
Where is it
I hate that goon is the word now
||https://fxtwitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1939792094614495457 || this one, spoiled I guess for chp 3 and 4 spoilers
I prefer coom
NEVER GOON
I will play chapter 3&4 then read this
alien cat
Thank you gamer
This is so funny
I hate it
why do you hate it
Evil red monkey
I'm expecting him to turn into a cyclops every time he bursts into flames
I think he is misunderstood but also held captive to evil powers
Ey ey zealot
I must destroy google for their AI
Is the rework here yet
I search images just to get AI slop
no
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
is that a glorpalod
welcome back slow mode
will zealot get an ogryn like rework, zealots tree is basically untouched right
Fire make this 12 am
I'd bet Arby chat would get it sooner than Zealot
unless the Gooners in here prove otherwise
reminder
Wish I could lick like this
arby chat is zealot chat 2
Sorry
whats the best mission for just a flesh wound
The train
Well you can do it on heresy
OH
But I would argue train is still easy on auric
i guess the intro to the snow forge one can be kinda hard? ig
people like to go left for some reason with all the barrels and get knocked off the edge
Got actively griefed by my teamates
Barreled into the DH and got killed cause of it
🙂
And furthest spawn possible
im fucking killing myself bro
This game is fucking ass bro
I also said this, then I fell in love
Ragebait
Exactly
I hate inferno + Shocktroop
w/ just BM and Headtaker, you only need a 22% damage increase to hit the breakpoint. +weakspot damage/finesse is roughly 31% efficiency as a damage increase here. Even vet can hit that.
@sterile basalt can explain it without unarmored you will not one shot a scab bruiser
Test it in the psyk
I mean, you can literally just go into the Psyk and see.
I did
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I used to run unyielding and Cara because I thought running unarmored was stupid why would I need damage against unarmored
Then I couldn’t one shot a regular horde enemy

So I sought knowledge
@median steeple Im just saying from quick glimpse
this might devolve into a duo
Psycho swapped to shield
yeah
thats what I woulda did
Don’t post my psyker dude
woundgryn
holy shit
That's a weakspot hit. You can see that I don't have any crit buffs and no crit noise is playing.
Guh
One second
Crit hits w/ that mod are yellow, not orange.
Something is amiss!
What build are you using?
I know I remember stacking the buffs and testing it without unarmored and it didn’t one shot
The ones I used for the demos. Zealot's pathing for it really doesn't matter, if you get 1 melee stat node and sustained assault you hit it (there's a melee stat node above SA). Should be able to hit it with just stat nodes and duelist as well. For Vet you can do it in quite a number of ways, with just stat nodes and fire team you only need 2% damage, you can do it entirely with just the finesse stuff and a melee stat node.
And it’s auric?
Does this apply to taxes too or we just testing caxe
I wouldn't test breakpoints on any other difficulty.
Was there a change?
To the caxe?
I know I remember vividly it not one shotting with all buffs stacked
Ok but more importantly what are the sedition breakpoints
2
With Taxe it's very similar w/ buff requirements, but you get more use out of finesse stuff.
Should be able to easily hit a scab bruiser 1 shot w/ any attack using the heavy damage template.
Something is up!!!!!!!
I wouldn’t doubt ainz or path
They do alot of testing
@sullen forge she's running crystalline will
But here I am seeing unarmored not being needed
I'm not gonna doubt the game. You can literally test the performance yourself. Ainz and path are not immune to having inaccurate information at times.
Neither am I. Or anyone really.
Guh
On psyker you reach such high finesse that you don’t need unarmored
You run flak maniac
I still run unarmored on it just incase I can’t keep dd up or if I’m going into havoc
Fortunately this is the zealot chat and it seems relatively easy to get enough damage buffs
why do you think I stopped around mid event
looked at you
and then looked back
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@ripe quest was this conversation about taking unarmoured on combat axe?
*for a BP build
Yes. Unless I am misunderstanding what enemies it's intended for it's not needed on Zealot or Vet.
Kinda also extends to Taxe but that's just by proxy of similar breakpoints.
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kGF7QhhKejnWyiKmZ?invite=cr-MSx5dzYsMTk0NjM5OTEy I don't care who the axe sends im not using it
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it was for bruisers
but I will double check again
it might not be needed with headtaker stacks
haha the captain maintained its directional vector
unyield/cara would be used
You only need 22% damage in addition to Headtaker/BM. Sustained Assault alone hits it, stat nodes w/ Duelist up as well.
I could have sworn it was needed with max ht and sus assault
I remember something being different but I dont remember
EO + This probably enabled that Reaper screen clear
U can
Just needs more spec elsewhere
Not particularly much either.
Yeah I remember it needing like 2 stacks of ij to reach the breakpoint
shrimple
okay I remember why I put unarmoured on the perks
I think I forgot to test with and without SA
sustained assault
without unarmoured and without SA (max headtaker)
but with SA it wont need unarmoured
I can change that
can change to cara/unyield/maniac
I wonder for havoc if it would be unarmored
How much health do bruisers have at 40?
1 is you might not be able to 1 shot them even with unarmoured with and without rampage, also cara and unyield is more dangerous enemies not maxing out BM on horde
I also think that most of the time the perks stay the same
Rashad 1 tap M21st is pretty strict outside of arb
that too
843.75 unarmored is a tough breakpoint to meet
That’s the only reason for unarmored in havoc on melee
I believe the only time I’ve changed a perk for havoc was tac axe psyker
As for other enemies
Scab bruiser 1hs using unarmored takes less requirements
So u can start 1 tapping earlier
Not with that attitude
Making u kill groups faster

Therefore u move through map faster
Just hit them harder
And moving through the map faster is usually better
U can run smth like elite for better breakpoints elsewhere
Why is unarmored the most tanky think in the game
why is inexorable judgement not used with relic blade?
@median steeple Yeah im ngl that was my queue to quit playing right there
It can be
I got a clip
for "meta"
cause that was pure fucking BS
bleak.....
Because stalwart + piety + zealot’s crit kit is simple and strong
ugh i want to optimize but it's all been optimized already
@sterile basalt so what would be the best perks on the caxe for zealot?
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Cara, unyielding?
Be arb
yummy netcode
That was a solid
Or I’ll let him know
deserved
Welp I need a shower
been groggy all day due to the heat + thunderstorm
might hop back on lator
I love being unemployed ! ! ! ! ( They don't even look at my application or respond )
No flak?
flak + unyield/cara/maniac
whatever you want to kill faster
the raw anger made in this image
lmfao
Now I’m curious about vet because he also showed that it reached the bp as well
@sterile basalt If unarmored is reached with this what would be better to run?
Felt
😔
Carapace + Unyielding 
If you don't hit a horde breakpoint you take a shot (challenge) (impossible)
It’s what I used to run

Guh
I don't typically run a BM Caxe so that's what I used to run as well.
is it silly to run marty w/ knife flamer?
Yes
Marty is silly in general
Ij was is better
Marty is for chads
whats the female chad?



