"We're giving Scab Ragers carapace chest armor to encourage the player to be more weary against fighting them, they are elites in armor, after all" OK ignores that and still blasts them the same
#zealot-class
hollow meteor
sullen forge
I still think it was a good decision
Sudden incline on veteran mains rightfully eating shit cause they say they can aim
And then they proceed to shoot it in the chest
hollow meteor
Oh I'm not arguing against it, I just find it funny
hollow meteor
Basically yeah lmao
sullen forge
Honestly if they want to buff it more I say fuck it
All in
Reverse mauler
Head is flak
sullen forge
Everything else is Cara
hollow meteor
Like if you know how to deal with them, then the status quo is maintained
You make a bad gameplay decision, you get to pay for it
sullen forge
Scab ragers are fine but like I’m just saying if they need a buff
Reverse mauler
Funniest shit ever when you have to hit the head to hurt them
hearty nebula
golden flint
Infested dreg mauler would be peak
hollow meteor
Double axe overhead 
sullen forge
When are we nerfing uncanny btw
visual stream
I'm glad plogryn and burgle don't make sense, thunder hammer stocks would be plummeting if they ever change it to infested
hearty nebula
When are we nerfing uncanny btw
golden flint
Beats of nurgle aren't really "infested" either are they? They're literally straight from the warp chaos beasts
misty nova
Sudden incline on veteran mains rightfully eating shit cause they say they can a...
Helbore mains ignoring the change regardless
visual stream
I mean, poxwalkers and poxbursters and pox hounds are warp-affected too
Nurgle's fuckery is both "physical" and warp-based
golden flint
Yeah but like at least you could argue the warpshittery is breaking down their physical bodies
In the case of bosses I guess it wouldn't matter regardless since the point is they're these massive hulking piles of flesh that are unyielding cuz of their sheer beefiness
visual stream
Now a change I'd actually like to see with those two bosses, is them throwing/spewing nurglings at us or dropping them
Especially with BoN
sullen forge
Helbore mains ignoring the change regardless
Helbore IV is “slightly more respectful” Plasma basically
Cause it lacks infinite cleave lmao
And has a wind up instead of M1 spam
misty nova
Ok now I gotta figure out how to make power di track my specials/elite kills
delicate shadow
Helbore IV is “slightly more respectful” Plasma basically
helbore "irons" are also dogshit
hollow meteor
Easier to make them use an existing armor type (Unyielding) than just making them use an exclusive armor type (Monstrous) like they have on tabletop I guess
delicate shadow
me when I'm forced to aim down a fucking accessory rail
golden flint
helbore "irons" are also dogshit
Actual dogshit that they don't have scopes
Of all the guns
delicate shadow
they should've given it M1 Garand stylized sights if they were gonna keep it without optics
or lee enfield sights
ANYTHING SOMETHING
hollow meteor
Or actual M98/Kar98k sights lol
golden flint
Why lack optics though? It's basically a sniper rifle stand-in
carmine falcon
dork devs hate functional gun optics
hearty nebula
ANYTHING SOMETHING
misty nova
The vigilant 7 should have a scope
misty nova
Their whole flavor thing states that they were modified for counter marksmanship on Vraks
hearty nebula
lasgun sights make me want to take mural painting lessons from kurt cobain
golden flint
Truly genius to stick a bayonet on the sniper gun instead of the standard lasguns as well
hollow meteor
Customizing user experience? In Darktide???????????
craggy jackal
Dot in center of screen that indicates where my bullets will go
carmine falcon
i just find it goofy af that a sci fi game has such poor ironsights 
hollow meteor
delicate shadow
FS will try to attach us to a messed up cosmetic shop but won't let us attach shit to our guns smh
golden flint
You could also just have different models of helbore for different niches, one with iron sights and a bayonet and one with optics and a standard bash
delicate shadow
like it doesn't have to be anything crazy, just a choice of optic/irons and bayonet/flashlight or bash
golden flint
Idk why gun marks don't do shit like that more often
visual stream
Most of the lasgun sights in this game remind me of the Helldivers 2 devs, in that there is no way they didn't make them horridly unfun for no discernible reason
delicate shadow
like we've got a fuckin lights out mode but most of the weapons in the game don't have flashlights lol
golden flint
Who needs flashlight when you have flamethrower?
carmine falcon
oh u quickplayed into a lights out missions without a recon las? xdddd
visual stream
Who needs flashlights when you have the soulblaze psyker making everything uglier and even less discernible
misty nova
like we've got a fuckin lights out mode but most of the weapons in the game don'...
Pre hstubber ogryn
golden flint
Firearm mks just using different attachments and firing modes would have been a no-brainer
misty nova
golden flint
Like the combat shotguns have two different special ammo types
grizzled aspen
like we've got a fuckin lights out mode but most of the weapons in the game don'...
You can just smell the heretics.
agile slate
You can just smell the heretics.
lights out heretics when I'm just walking around just swinging my relic blade back and forth:
north sedge
an attachment system
gaunt peak
Is there anyway to get use out of profane weapons?
Like turning them into gold or something
north sedge
That is how you make weapons, roll profanes until you get the right potential stats then upgrade
gaunt peak
Discard? Cause I can't turn them into mastery
grizzled aspen
Yeah.
sullen forge
Gale crash out
gaunt peak
Damn so they are useless...sad
grizzled aspen
Discarding things refunds them to ordo dockets.
grizzled aspen
If you get any Emperor's gift items, those also give plasteel and diamantine based on their rarity.
craggy jackal
If you want to do that
sullen forge
Gale crash out
I think we should beat people with rocks who decide to come into a store at close and then take ages to get their items
grizzled aspen
And yeah you can upgrade to green to sac for mastery cheese.
grizzled aspen
I think we should beat people with rocks who decide to come into a store at clos...
Straight up, we kick people out if they don't find their shit quickly.
long oasis
we should just beat people with rocks no matter what
grizzled aspen
If you are still in my store at 9:55, I am harassing you until you go to a register or until 10pm. If you don't go to a register and check out, I am well within my rights to call the cops to remove you from the premises for trespassing.
I love that part of my job.
stone fern
If you are still in my store at 9:55, I am harassing you until you go to a regis...
can i get uhhhhh
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
grizzled aspen
What kind of store closes at 5pm?
sullen forge
And then took 5 minutes trying to find 1 item when I pestered them the entire time
To assist them
Hardware
grizzled aspen
Oh that's valid then.
But they should've just told you what they were looking for.
stone fern
dawg people go there for emergencies
grizzled aspen
Like, you work there, you know where shit is.
sullen forge
Clad
grizzled aspen
You can control being prepared, though. :)
stone fern
lmao ok
grizzled aspen
Yeah killing that person with hammers is a normal and reasonable response, I think.
stone fern
yeah nvm if its not a plunger or tools or something important
sullen forge
I’m understanding when they’re urgent about getting out or it’s like a pipe busted
ITS FUCKING GLOVES
AT THE FRONT OF THE STORE
THEY TOOK 5 MINUTES
For 1 fucking pair of gloves that was like dirt cheap
median steeple
sullen forge
90% of my customer base
Straight up have to assist nearly all of them with that
Being a keyhold is both a blessing and curse
median steeple
I was so disoriented because of the heat a couple of days ago that I was putting the card in wrong every time
Brain was actually fried
gaunt peak
Does curio power level matter?
median steeple
86F so not that hot, but there was no clouds or wind.
no curio power level does not matter
gaunt peak
Alright so if I get one that's got good base buff, just focus it
I'm thinking toughness for all three base roll
Then additional toughness for perk
Then HP
Then I'm not sure
median steeple
it's 17% max for tough and 21% for HP
sullen forge
Veterans with their state mandated 3 stam with stam Econ based perks or they die
Asthma if it was a class
misty nova
I'm the evil version
3 wounds
median steeple
ooougggh I can't play without my stamina....
void bison
hollow meteor
Asthma if it was a class
Being in the Guard is not without its drawbacks, namely asbestos
delicate shadow
https://tenor.com/view/laina-meme-wide-eyes-crazy-girl-justin-bieber-gif-2109698...
gut punching me back to 2011 with that shit
median steeple
even in 42M you can't escape asbestos in your gas mask filters
delicate shadow
You can just smell the heretics.
grizzled aspen
86F so not that hot, but there was no clouds or wind.
That's roasting, to me.
Anything above 74 degrees is just agony.
median steeple
I mean it's roasting here as well since we don't have many large bodies of water
hollow meteor
gut punching me back to 2011 with that shit
median steeple
great plains yippie
and I don't live close enough to the rockies for them affect me
placid fiber
Anything above 74 degrees is just agony.
eh 80 isn't too bad as long as the humidity isn't above 50% x.x
Had 80 with a humidity of 79% yesterday
delicate shadow
sometimes I miss Australian summer
glorious 35C and 99% humidity
grizzled aspen
eh 80 isn't too bad as long as the humidity isn't above 50% x.x
No, no, my wardrobe does not permit temperatures above 74 degrees.
delicate shadow
getting my daily water requirements through the air
hollow meteor
grizzled aspen
And even if it did, that's still miserable.
placid fiber
No, no, my wardrobe does not permit temperatures above 74 degrees.
Fair
hollow meteor
The heat I'll tolerate if needed
hollow meteor
I can still cool down
median steeple
waiter waiter more rain
grizzled aspen
I would rather it be 40 degrees forever.
grizzled aspen
Because I can always put more clothes on, but I can't take more off. (at least, not without getting arrested)
delicate shadow
I love humidity
placid fiber
*Humidity*? No
we have both here x.x
heat and humidity
and cold lol
Depending on the month
placid fiber
I only have that happen during the winter
grizzled aspen
40 DEGREES
80% HUMIDITY
LIGHT MIST
hollow meteor
I dry the fuck out if I'm in anything below like 80% humidity <:KEKW_ogryn:10220...
True, photogenic AF, but I hate it since it's harder to cool down
median steeple
I legit want to move to Ontario/Nova Scotia for the sole fact is that their best cities are on the shores of rives/oceans
I hate the plains
delicate shadow
this is true, good excuse to go to the beach though
median steeple
it's also insanely windy
hollow meteor
we have both here x.x
Been there, done that, ruined my shirt from it, not going back 
placid fiber
fair
median steeple
I run punc/shattering but iirc it depends on your talent setup?
I swear someone said that in here
gaunt peak
For relic blade I'm thinking overload and energy leakage
median steeple
you'd want Cranial/Rampage for everything but havoc
if you'd want to go super meta
at least
overload sadly is not great
I wish it was better since it could be really cool
gaunt peak
I thought it purging heat would make it really good
Also how do you get critical hits, I've not seen it as a stat anywhere
long oasis
crit chance isnt shown but its just a percentage
craggy jackal
Fury of the faithful is a guaranteed critical hit
Otherwise chance
You can tell when you swing your sword if it’s a critical hit if it makes a different noise
median steeple
I don't think I've ever used one of the anti corruption talents
Rebreather seems hilarious but I've yet to see a single build with it
north sedge
gut punching me back to 2011 with that shit
stan is brain genius
delicate shadow
stan is brain genius
this man...
north sedge
i know, it's beautiful
median steeple
man these party finder options are so ass
Sorry man I'm not joining your heinous rituals archivium 😭
pliant otter
Is it possible in a future update for Zealot skill tree we will get any form of nade regen for something else besides tknives? you all see it possible? 👀
median steeple
prob not
what I see changing the most with nades is prob the lead up to them
because the other two options aren't bad
it's just tknives have really good talents leading up to them
long oasis
rituals is so not fun
visual stream
rituals is so not fun
They're fun except on the maps where you can tell the devs were trying their best to troll the players
Looking at post-elevator smelter spawn
median steeple
smelter and archivium are the two I despise for rites
long oasis
;-;
visual stream
smelter and archivium are the two I despise for rites
Last time I played archivum, I was mad the rituals bugged out and just didn't progress because I died trying to get one until I realized it wasn't actually going
Seeing those spawns within a dozen feet of each other was insane though
void bison
gaunt peak
What is the max toughness curio boost?
long oasis
maybe I should just get odyssey
long oasis
What is the max toughness curio boost?
17
gaunt peak
And is there a way to farm them
long oasis
you can buy random ones from melk
gaunt peak
Beyond that no then?
hollow meteor
And once you use all of your Melk bucks, there will be new content only available with that currency 
median steeple
watching the game spawn twins, BoN, and a plogryn on my team
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908476894045937664/1291815590297866331/ezgif-7-8f58465034.gif
like why
long oasis
glarp glarp
visual stream
Beyond that no then?
You can check Melk and Brunt's rotating shops
Other than that, you can equip +curio chance on your existing curios and play
median steeple
Speedrunning
median steeple
if you're not lvl 30 dw about getting the best curios
visual stream
Especially since it's impossible until 30
hushed knoll
Don’t do it ainz
plush estuary
have you seen what they did to meow?
void bison
atomic frogs
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126
hushed knoll
Who is meow
north sedge
<a:NOPERS:928558980270264352>
median steeple
kicked the nest
median steeple
she's a demon
hushed knoll
median steeple
me drunk driving
void bison
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240196923644968960/1315745221413175389/ezgif-7-dfcadfbc5c.gif
median steeple
glad we're on the same level as Iraq
plush estuary
lol
void bison
creeper world 4
visual stream
creeper world 4
My friend psyoped me into one session of this
What a strange game
Fun though
hushed knoll
me drunk driving
WHAT THE FUCK
median steeple
hushed knoll
Why tf am I laughing
uneven galleon
DRIVING IN MY CAR RIGHT AFTER A BEER
obsidian prairie
What a strange game
Its the weirdest thing but its really good
hushed knoll
Hello carpets
visual stream
DRIVING IN MY CAR RIGHT AFTER A BEER
HEY THAT BUMP IS SHAPED LIKE A DEER
median steeple
D.U.I How about you die
elder maple
How good is the axe?
elder maple
Which one? Chaxe, combat, tactical
Uh the early game one that comes with the zealot I dunno
void bison
My friend psyoped me into one session of this
this is truly the creepiest world 4
median steeple
I think it's the combat axe that zealot starts with?
Either way it's pre good iirc unless I've missed it getting obliterated
elder maple
Either way it's pre good iirc unless I've missed it getting obliterated
It is fun but you loose momentum fighting swarms of armoured enemies
gaunt peak
What exactly is cleave and impact and strength
median steeple
Byeah
plush estuary
cleave is how many enemies are damaged/staggered per attack
impact is stagger
strength is damage/stagger/cleave
gaunt peak
Got it
gaunt roost
400 hours and never knew thst
plush estuary
gaunt roost
why did you fight the twins 500 times
gaunt roost
i love how it’s just a super rare quick play mission now
south prism
i've been getting it a lot on qp 😭
void bison
fat... shark!!!!!
misty nova
Uh the early game one that comes with the zealot I dunno
That's the Rashad
Best axe in the game
Looking at my score
312k dmg
442k overkill damage
No such thing as overkill
elder maple
That's the Rashad
It can get a bit rough with armoured enemies
misty nova
Just heby
elder maple
I feel like I am opening a soda can with a pencil
fluid rapids
why the fuck i die in 1 hit when i make a mistake on havoc 33
arby makes me so lazy
please tell me what im doing wrong i cant with this 😭
misty nova
Well melee enemies are applying corruption
fluid rapids
i feel so tanky and yet so squishy at the same time
misty nova
So you just got combo'd
fluid rapids
i know its not the class i know its definitely a skill issue
fluid rapids
So you just got combo'd
i suppose
just venting frustration tbh i just wanna improve
but after playing arby and ogryn, playing a class that actually needs some brain capacity to be used is a bit of a workout
carmine falcon
time to suffer from cancer
gaunt peak
What's the main difference between MK 10 and MK 2 for relic blade
fluid rapids
slash slash stab you mean i think?
gaunt peak
That's mkx
fluid rapids
o
viral halo
Mark 2 and 10 have different Finesse multipliers as well as move set.
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378>
gaunt peak
I'm kinda waiting to make my 'build' until level 30
Cause I feel like if I try and do it now I won't have enough points
void bison
zealot is an incredibly diverse character with many possible builds
misty nova
Holy shit
void bison
25 giblets or 10 bones which would you rather in a barter deal
visual stream
Nevermind
Ship of Fools still got hands
Pretty fun game, though I remember one strategy I used that exploded the game's challenge
I think it had something to do with the charged cannon
jagged cradle
i was left to the wolfs and mauled :(
acoustic dune
craggy jackal
Mark 2 and 10 have different Finesse multipliers as well as move set.
I knew L L into looping heavies felt better than light spam on mk 10
Beyond heavies just doing more damage
ripe quest
Mark 2 and 10 have different Finesse multipliers as well as move set.
This menu shows the finesse boost curve multiplier value for the first heavy and light attack. These are not for the entire weapon, both have very similar finesse setups.
frozen kernel
Mk2 has a golf swing uppercut, which makes it morally superior on principle
Similar to the Evi Mk3, it’s just always been kinda statistically outshined by the other mark despite having a cooler moveset. Still a very good weapon though
drowsy steppe
<:ICANT:926590632720470056> time to suffer from cancer
this and IIIVEG, CIVI 
any other maelstrom mods I qp
ripe quest
Similar to the Evi Mk3, it’s just always been kinda statistically outshined by t...
It used to be better for crowds by a fair margin but due to the latest balance patch this is no longer the case.
Now you only take the Mk III for the light strikedowns, that's the thing carrying its viability over the Mk XV. 
frozen kernel
"carrying its viability over the Mk XV"
Never thought I'd see the day 🚬
Shine on crazy diamond
hexed igloo
hexed igloo
I use the evis that I think looks cooler
misty nova
I should make an Evis15 edit
frozen kernel
I never played VT2 so I didn't miss the Executioner Blade moveset
misty nova
As soon as I get a video editor
frozen kernel
Generally I just didn't like that it was an M1 weapon when the Mk3 had a whole cute combo
hexed igloo
I never played VT2 so I didn't miss the Executioner Blade moveset
I played vt2 after dt so idk I still used the big sword tho
frozen kernel
Im glad the Evis were brought up to snuff though. The thematic stuffs shouldn't be outshined by the regular swords lmao
frozen kernel
Relic blade was kind of the final nail in the coffin for the Evi when it was released
hexed igloo
It should have just been a painfully normal sword as a "relic" from 1270
frozen kernel
That would've been a funny troll
hexed igloo
Just a normal ass fuckin longsword
hexed igloo
You swing and it gets stuck in the first thing you hit, qte to pull it out
hexed igloo
April Fools relic blade just turns into a bronze khopesh
Hear me out everything gets turned into a medieval version so it's just vt2
All the guns are varying types of automatic crossbow
frozen kernel
Boltgun is just a large slingshot just autoslings fist sized stones
hexed igloo
Lasguns just don't fire anything things just die in front of you
The lasguns can just be vaguely gun-shaped sticks
frozen kernel
The forums would shit a brick that they could remodel everything for an april fools joke but we get recolored cosmetics sold in the cash shop 
ripe quest
Relic blade was kind of the final nail in the coffin for the Evi when it was rel...
Evis was not in a good place back then either. Outside of Unyielding damage and the bloodthirsty 1 shot chaining, Chainsword had better crowd performance by a lot, Chaxe had better single target. Even if you remove the RB from the game the Evis isn't currently pulling its weight very well.
hexed igloo
Yeah but the evis is way fucking cooler than those
frozen kernel
Even getting a kick in the ass is better than being left to rot
hexed igloo
It's like wearing fake jays
drifting wolf
Yeah but the evis is way fucking cooler than those
this is true, but it's only second place to the fabled 2h chaxe
hexed igloo
I would kill for a battlechaxe
This is a threat of violence in name of fatshark I will do whatever it takes
hexed igloo
Whirligig is cool but have you experienced the beast cutter
frozen kernel
Wasnt that the Dks2 puzzle sword one from the DLC?
hexed igloo
Who needs fancy tricks and mechanisms when you have a steel whip that weighs 100lbs
ripe quest
Yeah but the evis is way fucking cooler than those
One day how they perform will be equivalent to how cool they are (also if they stretched the blade length by 30% that'd be wonderful)
hexed igloo
One day how they perform will be equivalent to how cool they are (also if they s...
I want it to be double edged with a fricasse
void bison
my gravship faction will be the sky hoppers, their venerated animals the bullfrogs and colossal toads; their gravship will be The Fly
hexed igloo
I want the evis to be a zweihander with teeth
hexed igloo
my gravship faction will be the sky hoppers, their venerated animals the bullfro...
Nothing compared to my SoS2 colony that went for 12 ingame years without touching planetside
frozen kernel
New "Repentia Pattern Evi" with zealot rework when
void bison
Nothing compared to my SoS2 colony that went for 12 ingame years without touchin...
urs wasn't called The Fly so it was less cool and maxxed
bozo alert...
ripe quest
I want it to be double edged with a fricasse
prob will be for the agri evis or whatever they'll call it
hexed igloo
Flymaxxing rubbing my hands together
gleaming siren
hexed igloo
prob will be for the agri evis or whatever they'll call it
Make it look like a zweihander and call it the zwei-ausweider (literally "two-eviscerator")
ripe quest
Which Evi is better to use?
Currently the Mk XV. Good single target, roughly the same crowd damage as the Mk III.
pliant otter
Hold on.... holding the heavy attack dont make it stronger unless I use the thrust blessing?
ripe quest
Hold on.... holding the heavy attack dont make it stronger unless I use the thru...
It's pretty much just there for timing reasons. The ideal is releasing a swing as soon as it becomes available to swing.
shut belfry
blessings on dueling sword, thrusting doesnt look bad
craggy jackal
uncanny precog thrust riposte
in that priority order roughly but you can mix and match
lofty python
gaunt peak
Been loving the relic blade
Melts groups, handles most specials pretty well, and holds up against bosses
My biggest issues have been armored ragers
Those guys are demons
acoustic dune
my gravship faction will be the sky hoppers, their venerated animals the bullfro...
There's a lack of frogs
grizzled aspen
My biggest issues have been armored ragers
If you use mk2, scab ragers become significantly less annoying because you have strikedown lights.
viral halo
This menu shows the finesse boost curve multiplier value for the first heavy and...
That makes sense. Good to know! Thanks
tidal remnant
Goon for the goon throne
primal scroll
Goon for the goon throne
solar zealot
what weapon would you guys recommend to couple with Combat Axe? i need to play it a bit more and i see the weapon is quite strong
ancient spoke
GOD AND THRONE!
solar zealot
hushed knoll
If you use mk2, scab ragers become significantly less annoying because you have ...
Hi frogcast ily 😍
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/jon-tron-out-of-this-house-lm001-evil-possessed-gif-12754...
I had bubble gum chicken last night
acoustic dune
I had bubble gum chicken last night
You know the drill
pearl venture
Using dueling sword as zealot xD
nova saddle
quick question what is the best KNOIFE version?
stone fern
its all fish
runic grotto
quick question what is the best KNOIFE version?
3
gaunt peak
Goon for the goon throne
When did the slanish worshipper get here
tidal remnant
Slaanesh is the lord of discord
Think about it
stone fern
hi
north sedge
hushed knoll
I am absolutely writhing rn
north sedge
Stan's thoughts on AM, on this fine morning
north sedge
I am absolutely writhing rn
The molly kicking in?
north sedge
;droof
hushed knoll
tawdry sparrow
Okay is it just me or does the crusher like suck
violet hornet
crusher is good, there's a comprehensive guide for it in the pins (a ways down)
tawdry sparrow
It just feels like it takes like 8 hits to kill a gunner at damnation
violet hornet
It needs certain attack patterns to be at it's most effective and is pretty finesse heavy, you do tons of damage hitting weakpoints with it
north sedge
Especially the push attack
plush estuary
Crusher is also a ramp up weapon
With skill crusher and slaughter it wants to hit bigger enemies multiple times and to have a few slaughter stacks
It can 1 shot gunners with the push attack
(unsure if I had slaughter stacks at the time)
north sedge
Even without it should be like, 2 hits
sand trail
chat what does "weak to fire" mean
for reference this was a zealot
plush estuary
A skill issue
north sedge
Not a thing, yea
sand trail
I was also zealot and spent most of the fight trying to keep them alive (By applying relic blade to heretic)
they also got sniped on extract like some movie shit
plush estuary
The only thing I can think of that can change fire damage ticks is full DR which zealot only has from "Good Balance"
*non toughness dr
solar gorge
they adding elemental strength/weaknesses next patch
acoustic dune
they adding elemental strength/weaknesses next patch
to darktide?
solar gorge
yeah
solar gorge
I'm playtesting next patch rn
plush estuary
@ripe quest I never thought it but does flamer tank/fire barrel fire ignore TDR but is affected by DR?
acoustic dune
they adding elemental strength/weaknesses next patch
please tell me zealot rework come next patch
solar gorge
arbites rework is next
sand trail
imagine if they enshittified and taxed the tree out of nowhere
solar gorge
that was always the best option for zealot if you weren't woke
sullen forge
Damage dump
plush estuary
sand trail
because of woke
sullen forge
No wokes in my chudtide…
solar gorge
dump damage, don't bother with rending it's ass
north sedge
sand trail
multidawg
solar gorge
you can replace all your teammates with dogs
sand trail
no more pins they just do the leap endlessly
sullen forge
You can now actively not play the game cause the dogs simply turn AI spawns off
solar gorge
you can already do that with a full arbites squad with dogs
sand trail
when does the fire event end
solar gorge
just block with shield and watch the game plays itself
sturdy flare
Are the 64% on Mobility & 76% on Penetration stats ok? I had this dropped but the dump stat isnt 60%.
acoustic dune
no more pins they just do the leap endlessly
dogs can now take a bullet for you
and now you can get a buff for each down dog
permanently
plush estuary
Are the 64% on Mobility & 76% on Penetration stats ok? I had this dropped but th...
its fine if you dont want to minmax
sturdy flare
its fine if you dont want to minmax
On ALL my other weapons, I took the time to get 60% on Mobility from the Armoury.
stone fern
Are the 64% on Mobility & 76% on Penetration stats ok? I had this dropped but th...
its ok if you dont have ocd
I do however
sturdy flare
but it hurts my eyes
Yes it is quite painful xD Thing is it was dropped after a game so I didnt have to do anything 😄 I just changed the perks+blessings. If I were to acquire a 60% mobility Tactical Axe from the armoury. it would take quite a few materials to get it to max level.
sturdy flare
its ok if you dont have ocd
Errrm 😛
plush estuary
after the crafting update
its so easy to max roll when you reach level 30
just a few dockets and your done
sturdy flare
THE NUMBERS THEY MUST ALL BE EQUAL AAAAAA
DAMNIT PEOPLE ! xD
sturdy flare
THE NUMBERS THEY MUST ALL BE EQUAL AAAAAA
OK FINE ! xD
acoustic dune
dats crazy
stone fern
OK FINE ! xD
im kidding btw
acoustic dune
next you are saying that we are fighting some kind of tide
stone fern
that 4% will only net you like 10 damage
stone fern
against some armor types
sturdy flare
im kidding btw
No. Now that you've mentioned it, it's stuck in my head.... The dark deed MUST be fulfilled.
stone fern
noooo i woke up the ocd monster
sturdy flare
noooo i woke up the ocd monster
Well it was quite satiated as ALL my weapons on all the characters are 60% on whatever dump stat I used 😛
maiden tulip
Most on topic Zealot chatter
acoustic dune
Most on topic Zealot chatter
freaklot
tawdry sparrow
Yeah after losing four back to back games with the crusher, I really really don't like it
tawdry sparrow
It just feels like it is too weak tbh.
plush estuary
its not
north sedge
What does your crusher look like and how are you using it
plush estuary
you are uising it wrong if you say its weak
void bison
I used the crusher with propah perks and blessings and obliterated an entire quadrum of tertium
tawdry sparrow
Only level 5 with crusher.
plush estuary
guh
void bison
blunderstrike?!
tawdry sparrow
Once again, I'm only level five with it so I don't really have any perks unlocked atm
north sedge
Yea missing skullcrusher
And the weapon wants you to use combos, if you're just doing lights or whatever you're gonna have a bad time on top of that
tawdry sparrow
I'm mostly doing heavy's mixed with lights to get damage out to the enemy's as a whole., Alongside pushing strikes.
north sedge
There's a guide in the pins that goes over everything, only thing that's changed since it was made is that you want skullcrusher slaughterer for blessings
tawdry sparrow
Let me correct myself:
I'm doing H-L-H-L mostly.
I don't know if that's the right way to do it but it works
tawdry sparrow
Ah.
plush estuary
can mix lights in
with slaughter stacks you can 1 shot horde with lights
so lights for horde trash
light heavy for mixed
depending on situation
special for only stagger
or a tiny damage increase if you have time to charge it
tawdry sparrow
I'll try it.
tawdry sparrow
Okay, I see why it's good now
placid fiber
its a combo weapon
gaunt peak
Such is the god emperors might that even the wicked fall upon their own blade when exposed to his glory
ripe quest
single target, PA-Light or Heavy Light block cancel
H1 L2 loops, the block cancel slows down the chain time into H1 as you need to do the startup animation.
sand trail
Such is the god emperors might that even the wicked fall upon their own blade wh...
least chaotic opening to that map
gaunt peak
Xbox
gaunt peak
Im new :3
sand trail
u can add me if u want
gaunt peak
Mid mission now
plush estuary
H1 L2 loops, the block cancel slows down the chain time into H1 as you need to d...
I see, okay
void bison
we have found our great ones
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> I never thought it but does flamer tank/fire barrel fire i...
Tox flamer tank explosions/fire are affected by TDR (they damage toughness).
Scab flamer tank explosions are affected by TDR, the fire itself is just affected by DR.
To my knowledge barrel fire acts the same.
solar zealot
fellas which combat knife mark?
plush estuary
scab flamer explosion and fire barrel go straight to hp damage
ripe quest
scab flamer explosion and fire barrel go straight to hp damage
The explosion itself seems to do toughness damage, the on ground fire goes straight to health.
plush estuary
fellas which combat knife mark?
both
sand trail
Mid mission now
lmk when ur out
plush estuary
mostly
craggy jackal
Push attack as well
plush estuary
and push attack
misty nova
fellas which combat knife mark?
6
Slightly better horde clearing
10% faster push attack
craggy jackal
It is a poke
tawdry sparrow
Out of wonder as I've heard alot of people say the thunder hammer is bad.
is that true?
Haven't really used it yet.
craggy jackal
No, it’s just really good at specifically one thing
And less good at everything else you need a melee to do
void bison
craggy jackal
One shotting monsters yes
tawdry sparrow
Most zealots I've seen are running the relic or oddly the chain axe.
acoustic dune
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croak
acoustic dune
Chainaxe is less good
i heard its like a lite thammer
tawdry sparrow
Yeah I don't really get why i've seen so much chainaxe zealots.
I can only guess they're leveling that weapon or they really like it.
gaunt peak
lmk when ur out
Just got out
sand trail
add me im doing some stuff w/ my files and then I'll be in
gaunt peak
I am playing with one of my girlfriends currently so I probably won't be able to play with you for a while but I did add you
gaunt peak
Just hit lvl 30 so I'm gonna try and make an actual build now
Are the knifes actually worth it?
gaunt peak
I was gonna say something like "this is a 4 player game" but
They are sometimes weird about new people
sand trail
it is what it is
craggy jackal
The knives are good yes
visual stream
Out of wonder as I've heard alot of people say the thunder hammer is bad.
is th...
Ironhelm variant is a great generalist up to auric maelstroms, from there the crucis shines as a boss removal tool in Havoc because of how much of a problem they can become
So it is good, but you need to use it for the right things
gaunt peak
Is there a way to see your crit chance?
visual stream
Mod, or memorizing the base crit chance and what crit chance talents or whatever that you're proccing
earnest eagle
Yeah theres a mod for it
heady rapids
me trying to memorize unlisted crit chance modifiers on different weapons & attacks
sand trail
just memory then until they do the vermintide thing and start implementing mods into the ame
earnest eagle
I'm on Xbox lol
Yikes RIP
sand trail
https://tenor.com/view/azumanga-daioh-azumanga-anime-azumanga-daioh-osaka-gif-10...
....you turn brown?
heady rapids
just memory then until they do the vermintide thing and start implementing mods ...
they wont
sand trail
such be life
gaunt peak
Just wondering cause I'm wondering if the bleed on crit stuff is worth it
heady rapids
unless its a modio integration and that's the worst case scenario
ripe quest
Out of wonder as I've heard alot of people say the thunder hammer is bad.
is th...
It's pretty alright, stellar for Unyielding and just ok otherwise.
craggy jackal
Scourge is very good
mighty root
Just hit lvl 30 so I'm gonna try and make an actual build now
Are the knifes ac...
I play on controller and i love knifes
earnest eagle
Just wondering cause I'm wondering if the bleed on crit stuff is worth it
Check the pin posts for the general weapon guide
craggy jackal
You’re still leveling up zealot but this is what your entire build tree might look like
sand trail
so now ur bleeding everything you hit
and now critting because things are bleeding
So you're making the non bleeding enemies get crit in a horde
craggy jackal
Generally speaking there isn’t that much variety in the top half of the tree because the talents before throwing knives are the de facto best talents
Besides purge the unclean in the middle section
sand trail
I can't wait to get rid of my stun grenades after I do the shocking penance
earnest eagle
so now ur bleeding everything you hit
and now critting because things are bleed...
I thought bleed on combat blades wasnt worth it
gaunt peak
I'm running relic blade and boltgun
heady rapids
I can't wait to get rid of my stun grenades after I do the shocking penance
there used to be no other greande option............
solar zealot
whats the dump stat on Dueling Sword? seems like cleave damage on mk4 but every mark has different? or is there universal best?
sand trail
I thought bleed on combat blades wasnt worth it
you don't need to put bleed on the combat blade
craggy jackal
whats the dump stat on Dueling Sword? seems like cleave damage on mk4 but every ...
You can dump either cleave or mob
sand trail
scourge should take care of that iirc
craggy jackal
On the mark 5 defenses is in the same place as cleave
earnest eagle
When in doubt? Mobility is always the dump stat
craggy jackal
Except when it isn’t
solar zealot
You can dump either cleave or mob
choices choices
gaunt peak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1392548732997861497/i...
Why no chorus, it's been an amazing skill for me and my team
solar zealot
id have to check which marks id use, so far i like 4 the most but maybe in future id be forced to use a different mark due to inevitable nerfing
craggy jackal
Why no chorus, it's been an amazing skill for me and my team
fotf is generally considered the best skill but you can also path through chorus if you prefer
visual stream
Why no chorus, it's been an amazing skill for me and my team
You CAN, but it forces you to gimp yourself in at least one part of your build
craggy jackal
Just don’t take either of the modifiers
visual stream
Usually at least
earnest eagle
Except when it isn’t
Yeah the freakin ogryn ripper dumpstat is ammo which tripped me up
gaunt peak
I take the damage mod to help boss nuke
craggy jackal
id have to check which marks id use, so far i like 4 the most but maybe in futur...
All 3 marks are getting nerfed just use the one you like most
mighty root
id have to check which marks id use, so far i like 4 the most but maybe in futur...
Mk5
craggy jackal
I take the damage mod to help boss nuke
The modifiers are generally considered not impactful enough to use a talent point on them
But it depends on what your entire build looks like
gaunt peak
I like the team support the skill gives but fair enough
gaunt peak
I'm trying to get a clip of my tree instead of like 3 screenshots
mighty root
tell me more
Form what I read is almost unchanged but it’s getting a parry
And it’s my fav ds not too broken
gaunt peak
Parry is fun
earnest eagle
What are the big meta build(s) rn?
visual stream
I thought that was just someone's suggestion for DS, not what it was likely being
plush estuary
this is what I am streaming
craggy jackal
What are the big meta build(s) rn?
The one I posted
craggy jackal
I thought that was just someone's suggestion for DS, not what it was likely bein...
They were Chinese patch notes translates to English
mighty root
What are the big meta build(s) rn?
What weapon are you hoping to build around?
visual stream
God please don't let DS get parry before the OG parry weapon stops being so mid
heady rapids
just saw @visual stream buy this game in my feed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961687761151221773/1371436905668939836/attachment78789798.gif
mighty root
craggy jackal
What are the big meta build(s) rn?
Theres realistically only one meta build and you just change what weapons you use
solar zealot
Form what I read is almost unchanged but it’s getting a parry
doesnt 5 have wack damage against armors tho
craggy jackal
Depends on how much you want to draw the line between what you consider a different build
earnest eagle
What weapon are you hoping to build around?
Honestly im jumping around rn tryna lvl all my weapons up since i just came in after like a 1.5 year hiatus
visual stream
I was burning floor tumors and disposing of corpses until war time started and the state abducted me to be a Sanitar
mighty root
doesnt 5 have wack damage against armors tho
With uncanny not so much and we have access to constant crit and fury
visual stream
They took my flamethrower away and gave me a gun 
earnest eagle
Follow the tree and use whatever you feel like
Why knives over fire nades? I hate using the knives 😦
craggy jackal
The talents before the throwing knives are the best talents
gaunt peak
Why in the fuck can't I find a blank image of the Zealot skill tree
craggy jackal
And knives remove the need for a ranged weapon to deal with specialists
If you path through fire nades, which you can, it is a straight point tax
earnest eagle
Hmmmm
Cuz i use the nades as panic buttons
But i played stealth with knives for a while so i can bite my tongue
misty nova
whats the dump stat on Dueling Sword? seems like cleave damage on mk4 but every ...
Mobility
You don't want to lose unarmored damage
craggy jackal
The fire nade is very good
gaunt peak
craggy jackal
It’s just expensive to take
gaunt peak
The red marks are where I put points
earnest eagle
It’s just expensive to take
Yeah and the ranged option for specials makes sense
visual stream
The red marks are where I put points
No duelist or second wind is rough, buddy
violet hornet
Cuz i use the nades as panic buttons
craggy jackal
Yes but those points are better spent in a skill that affects your overall gameplay more
Like duelist and second wind, two of zealots best talents
gaunt peak
No duelist or second wind is rough, buddy
I don't dodge much
craggy jackal
Zealot has a lot of tdr (toughness damage reduction) and you can get all your bonus toughness from your curios
You need to dodge
earnest eagle
What weapon are you hoping to build around?
The more i think about it now, prolly dueling sword and recon laser
craggy jackal
It is a core part of zealots kit
visual stream
Not in a mean way, but that's similar to saying you don't melee often
gaunt peak
Blocking has worked way better for me
visual stream
It is a core mechanic
craggy jackal
If you want to play zealot as effectively as possible you need to dodge
It’s a fundamental skill but very important on zealot
visual stream
Plus you can't block any ranged enemies
gaunt peak
Dodging isn't practical when it's pulling me away from the thing I'm trying to cleave in half
earnest eagle
Also QQ canceling 😏
gaunt peak
It feels so clunky
visual stream
It doesn't pull you far enough away that you can't still hit it
gaunt peak
It would be one thing if you could forward dodge
But I don't think to go back, I push forward
craggy jackal
Side dodge
violet hornet
dodging can consistently give you a significant damage bonus from duelist and toughness from second wind
craggy jackal
And tdr from good balance
earnest eagle
It would be one thing if you could forward dodge
The slide is your forward dodge, technically
gaunt peak
The slide is your forward dodge, technically
That counts as a dodge?
young sparrow
Yes
gaunt peak
That's weird
earnest eagle
And certain enemies break thru blocks, like ogryn crushers
You have to dodge ogryn crusher overheads
gaunt peak
Also I was told that I couldn't get max roll curios, now that's I'm level 30 am I able to?
earnest eagle
Yes
gaunt peak
Not that I have the gold, been putting everything into my weapons
earnest eagle
But they are rare
gaunt peak
I have all 13% toughness curios which have worked for now
craggy jackal
Max toughness is 17%
manic gust
anyone has any tips for "just a flesh wound"?
craggy jackal
Do the train mission
earnest eagle
So don't get obsessive tryna get all 17% tuff or 21% hp curios. 16 and 20% are fine
visual stream
anyone has any tips for "just a flesh wound"?
- Do train mission
- Don't use wounds/martyrdom
gaunt peak
Yeah there's a 16 in shop, can't get it though
manic gust
okok thanks, gotta find people to do it with
violet hornet
anyone has any tips for "just a flesh wound"?
finding one other zealot that needs it to pair up with is a good way to get a private game going
manic gust
true
gaunt peak
Also is it worth grabbing wound curios? Like yeah I get the marter buffs, but less toughness to make being at low health work
violet hornet
check out the vox-lfg-XXXX channel for your region / platform
earnest eagle
Yeah there's a 16 in shop, can't get it though
Yeah Just focus on 16 and 20%s. 17 and 21s and bday gifts lol.
plush estuary
dont mind the clip ratio
craggy jackal
If you are on martyrdom you should be using wound curios
You should never use them otherwise
earnest eagle
Oh right, cuz you get stronger the more wounded you are
gaunt peak
I just took martyrdom because it seems like the only one I would get milage out of
craggy jackal
All of the keystones are very good
Blazing piety is considered the best one
But note that wounds do not increase your max health
gaunt peak
I'm aware
craggy jackal
Only the number of segments your health bar has
earnest eagle
But martyrdom increases your toughness at low health, right?
craggy jackal
Yeah heresy onwards is -1 wound
gaunt peak
Mhm
craggy jackal
Theres no other wound reductions
gaunt peak
Toughness DR
craggy jackal
But martyrdom increases your toughness at low health, right?
The left node of martyrdown gives you tdr
gaunt peak
What's the max on that btw
visual stream
Also is it worth grabbing wound curios? Like yeah I get the marter buffs, but le...
Martyrdom: always take 3 wounds plus the +2 wound talent
Non-martyrdom: never take any wounds from anything
Oh Asian said that
gaunt peak
Yeah but then I have no toughness or health
I'm decent at surviving, but not that good
craggy jackal
Not that good yet*
earnest eagle
Yeah but then I have no toughness or health
Martyr is built around getting stronger the more wounds you have
visual stream
I mean, if you're taking the keystone that synergizes with wounds
It is natural that you take more wounds
gaunt peak
Martyr thunder hammer seems like you would turn everything into meat paste in a single hit
visual stream
Otherwise it is wasted potential
earnest eagle
You wanna stay in the Pain Lane
gaunt peak
Yeah but I'm saying there's a balance to be had
earnest eagle
Probably, i dont run martyr builds lol
gaunt peak
If I have all wound curios, and I can't even take extra base toughness
visual stream
Didn't see that 
craggy jackal
Good balance gives you base dr
Talent on the right side of the tree below throwing knives
fallen portal
2wound1tough felt good
gaunt peak
That's not base DR
visual stream
I'm sure that's usable but probably not optimal
gaunt peak
It's a triggered effect
fallen portal
your math pales before my vibe (empirical science)
plush estuary
craggy jackal
The triggered effect is base dr
visual stream
your math pales before my vibe (empirical science)
Do what you want, all that matters is that the enemy is dead 
earnest eagle
It's a triggered effect
Side note about the slide, its the only way to dodge ranged damage
desert vessel
Dump Stat on bolt pistol is collateral or mob?
plush estuary
either
craggy jackal
Sprinting
plush estuary
collat worth less imo
earnest eagle
Coll
young sparrow
Side note about the slide, its the only way to dodge ranged damage
You can also side dodge as well
gaunt peak
Yup
stone fern
boltpistol is so kino
desert vessel
Which combat blade mark is good? And what blessings and perks
stone fern
i love my 50-50 collat mobility dump boltistol
craggy jackal
Flak unyielding/maniac
earnest eagle
You can also side dodge as well
So ive noticed ranged enemies will instantly snap target back onto you after a side dodge, but have a slight delay after a slide.
craggy jackal
For what
Piety helps with crit builds but you have a reasonable amount of crit without it depending on the weapon
craggy jackal
Relic likes crit, it has a finesse modifier (crit and weak spot damage)
lament ruin
no dr cap dr just stacks multiplicatively no?
craggy jackal
There isn’t a dr cap dr is just multiplicative so it doesn’t reach 100%
gaunt peak
Ah....that's terrible
So trying to figure out how much DR I have is gonna be a nightmare
Wonderful
lament ruin
on zealot realistically u just have enduring faith and maybe good balance
so ~50% usually
craggy jackal
Just multiplication
lament ruin
oh and benediction
gaunt peak
Just multiplication
Which can change depending on what gets factored first in the math
craggy jackal
So if you have 2 sources of 50% dr, it’s (1-.5) (1-.5) = .25
75% dr
Multiplication is commutative
Order doesnt matter
lament ruin
on zealot with just enduring faith (50% tdr) and benediction its 62.5% tdr
sullen forge
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