#zealot-class

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golden flint
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What would be good guns to pair with these then?

ripe quest
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wdym I'm like in the top 4 for shitposting in zealot chat history

long oasis
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I cant believe they made a movie about that war criminal

long oasis
craggy jackal
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Revolver

golden flint
long oasis
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and you always have throwing knife for specials and stuff

golden flint
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I mean like relic blade can do anything but stuff like combat knife or the regular axes aren't super great for hordes unless I just haven't used them enough

long oasis
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the axes have access to brutal momentum

ripe quest
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Caxe scales well into mixed crowds w/ BM up.

long oasis
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this makes a head swing go through everything

golden flint
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Interesting

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What is enemy hit mass?

craggy jackal
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Axes always take bm

long oasis
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its how hard an enemy is to go through

ripe quest
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It is only 4 total targets per swing if you hit the 1 shot breakpoint (or just soften them up prior). This is a bit lower than good crowd clear weapons after the first initial hits into a crowd.

craggy jackal
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How many enemies your weapon can go through before it stops going through enemies

ripe quest
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But for a single target weapon, it's quite good.

long oasis
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poxwalkers are 1.5, maulers are 10, etc

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how much cleave you have on a weapon determines how many you can go through

ripe quest
# craggy jackal How many enemies your weapon can go through before it stops going through enemie...

Your weapon has a cleave value, enemies have a hitmass value. If your current cleave is higher than an enemies hitmass, your weapon goes through the enemy and their hitmass is subtracted from your current remaining cleave in the swing. Carapace has armor stop by default though, so unless you can bypass it your swings will stop on it regardless. Also some weapons like Eviscerator and Thunder Hammer special attacks will stop on preset enemy types.

craggy jackal
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Yeah

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I’m not sure I was the person to ping with that info

golden flint
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Chain weapon specials seem to stop on the first enemy no matter what from what I've seen

ripe quest
long oasis
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I think evis rev can go through multiple?

ripe quest
golden flint
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So if I ran combat axe would I want to run something like flamethrower or maybe braced autogun?

ripe quest
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Honestly w/ Brutal Momentum you'll get by fine w/o a cleave ranged weapon if a) you're not in havoc, and b) if you're in havoc someone else can handle the denser hordes.

long oasis
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run whatever you want with caxe

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be wild and free like the wind

ripe quest
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If you're based though you'll be fine regardless, BM is strong.

golden flint
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Or what doesn't I guess I should say loregryn

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I've mostly been using boltguns lately

craggy jackal
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Flamer and bolters

halcyon maple
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Best relic blade blessings?

craggy jackal
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Cranial grounding rampage

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Sub in wrath if playing havoc

cinder steeple
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i feel crazy for assuming havoc is the normal. it keeps messing me up

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the increase doesn't feel that crazy

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so i don't get the swap

craggy jackal
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Some people appreciate more cleave in havoc

halcyon maple
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Hm okay

ripe quest
# golden flint What counts as cleave ranged weapons?

Flamer is the big one. Though a scattershot/man-stopper shotgun will absolutely count, namely the accatran shotgun. Few other weapons have high cleave values but are generally single target weapons, like the Revolver and whatnot. On other classes there's a stellar example w/ the Plasma Gun, having 105 cleave.

halcyon maple
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Any preffered build for relic/ heavy eviscerator?

craggy jackal
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The standard build

cinder steeple
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if im trying to min max flamer, am i just trying to kite the whole map and then flame?

halcyon maple
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So crit based?

cinder steeple
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also why is strength so impactful on flamer?

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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the dots?

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and how so

craggy jackal
ripe quest
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yeah the fire dot

craggy jackal
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You have buff active burn does more damage

halcyon maple
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So this is okay?

cinder steeple
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i understand that there will be more damage by nature of adding more damage multipliers, i want to know the calculation

ripe quest
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for kiting generally you just funnel enemies into a tight passage way or employ the spin method if you're in a more open area.

craggy jackal
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No

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Loner bad

halcyon maple
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I should reallly get the smaller talennt tree thig

ripe quest
craggy jackal
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Here is the standard build

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Yeah true

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But they are already pathing holy revenant

halcyon maple
cinder steeple
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how is the damage multiplied for the dots by a crit? i have heard that a crit will add two dots instead of one, but i don't understand how strength helps unless it can add even more dots at once

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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so im trying to stack dmg on something with base 20?

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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so i don't understand why blaze away is so great

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theoretically that is

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empirically i've had a lot of success

cerulean moth
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whats the current chorous spam build?

craggy jackal
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iod still?

cerulean moth
ripe quest
cinder steeple
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so if the strength doesn't matter for dots, why put points into it? why not everlasting flame and penetrating flame?

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why blaze away and previously overpressure?

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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how does it buff the dots

ripe quest
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by increasing their damage

cinder steeple
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how

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by what operations are the dots being increased by

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i don't see the magnitude that this is increasing the dots, nor how strength increases the dots if they cannot crit

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all i understand is that the initial hit can crit, however the base value is very low, ~20, so stacking for that base seems useless

ripe quest
# cinder steeple all i understand is that the initial hit can crit, however the base value is ver...

It seems like there's a misunderstanding of mechanics here. Strength increases damage, impact, and cleave regardless if a weapon crits or not. Here, it's just buffing damage. Status effects are doing more than 20 damage when stacked, and strength is just normally increasing the damage of the status effect. ie, if a status effect were to do 300 damage per tick at full stacks, then you had a 50% strength buff, you'd do 450 damage per tick.

Looking into it, it seems as though they are just being buffed by blessings from the weapon inflicting it, and by talents buffing said weapon. So with anoint in blood you'll do more damage with status effects inflicted by a ranged weapon if you're near an enemy. Also, perks from your weapons apply regardless, so if you pull out a melee weapon with +25% damage into unyielding it'll apply to stuff like fire applied by a flamer.

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What you may be seeing is the Flamer's direct hit damage, which is 21.2 at 80% damage. This is just the direct hit which applies the fire, and not the fire itself.

cinder steeple
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that is what i was referring to with 20

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i was not aware that strength increases flat dmg

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and increased the flat dmg of the dots

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the dmg modifiers are all additive and then counted upon the initial hit, so i if i had +50% strength and +25% ranged dmg on my flamer and i hit for 300 i would do 525?

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so with overpressure, blaze away, and annoint in blood, i can have +80% dot dmg at most?

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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i thought base dmg multipliers were additive

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excluding crits and weakspots

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which i assume to be the case for dots

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if I'm doing a lot of solo runs, such as auric maelstroms (excluding CIVI), or running havoc w/o a psyker, would i then prefer overpressure instead of penetrating flames?

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also, what are the rates at which the dots i applied dissipate?

polar nexus
ripe quest
# cinder steeple i thought base dmg multipliers were additive

Anoint isn't increasing base damage as in, base/weakspot/crit/crit weakspot. It's just a normal damage buff. Overpressure and Blaze Away stack additively, as they're both strength. Strength is multiplicative w/ Anoint's damage_near buff. So if you have all three, you'll be doing 106.25% more damage.

cinder steeple
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oh, okay, thanks!

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i feel bad asking questions for how to calculate something in each instance, is there a pdf that exists that gives a detailed explanation how to do general calculations?

ripe quest
polar nexus
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Yeah but I don't think you said it in your wall of text and that is kinda important

ripe quest
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While what the description of the talent says isn't quite accurate to how it works, it's enough for me to not have to clarify that it doesn't work while holding out a melee weapon given that it doesn't ever say ingame that it applies to melee weapons.

polar nexus
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Yes but you were talking about ticks and status effects. Just wanted to be precise

ripe quest
polar nexus
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Also, my expectation for you is high

cinder steeple
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thanks!

polar nexus
cinder steeple
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what constitutes close range dmg?

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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is it possible to fotf through a wall of bulwarks or to effectively apply flamer dots to the havoc bulwark pack?

polar nexus
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And that's basically your ranged weapon DMG and every dot you inflict while having your ranged weapon equipped.

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In that 12.5m limit

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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if I'm doing a lot of solo runs, such as auric maelstroms (excluding CIVI), or running havoc w/o a psyker, would i then prefer overpressure instead of penetrating flames?

ripe quest
ripe quest
cinder steeple
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ooh i bet you know a lot about min maxing knife dmg on hits

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i am running knife flamer

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i dont want ds4 b/c i feel like i have learned everything on that weapon

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flamer and knife are new to me

polar nexus
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So you take precog and uncanny strikes

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Precog for duellists and uncanny to cheese the dots

ripe quest
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If you're running an uncanny weapon you don't run penetrating just due to the rending bonus cap.

cinder steeple
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also to be clear, i dont want you to take mechanically intense requests as something i should avoid. i am very down for complex things

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what do i ideally do for borderline one hitting bosses with knife fotf?

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i cant seem to get backstab for chaos spawns weakspot unless its shroud but i might try some shroud

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i have done an h40 solo speedrun completion w/ shroud but thats it

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Also, mechanics regarding horde timers

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Sometimes I wonder if I have enough killing power to exhaust the horde before another one comes in, or how that whole thing is precisely calculated

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I know there are special hordes, boss spawn points, weakened boss timers, basic hordes, preset patrols, etc. But don’t know it in depth to the extent that I would like

ripe quest
cinder steeple
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oh damn

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ive been doing that

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with sustain

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i thought there was more

ripe quest
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Zealot's conditional buffs are kinda just always available and easy to proc, so there's not much room for extra damage.

clever swan
sacred jay
ornate bone
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Apparently Celine is popular with zealots. Their performance attracted the ire of one of my teammates

copper hawk
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Yah

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They're something of a cryptid

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They always do poorly

copper hawk
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dude

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polish names aren't real

clever swan
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i think they are

misty mason
hard nexus
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uncanny doesn’t cheese the DOTs unless ur running fleshtearer or lacerate

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scourge doesn’t inflict enough bleed

acoustic dune
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i must

misty mason
hard nexus
hard nexus
misty nova
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Bruh I just woke up

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It's too early for this shit

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😭

stone fern
polar nexus
misty nova
hard nexus
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but it really won’t be doing that much

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flamer draw time is too long

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and scourge bleed stacks aren’t enough

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it’ll only come into use against bosses really

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if ur light spamming

polar nexus
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you use the tknife to shorten the draw

hard nexus
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the only thing that’d be needed for is crushers

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but you can just kill crushers with your knife

polar nexus
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you can but if you have a pack, you can't really 1vs1 each crusher

hard nexus
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you don’t need to

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you have the mobility with knife to kite

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if you were running fleshtearer uncanny id agree with you

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but you don’t have enough DOT sources with just flamer

polar nexus
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yeah but you may not have the opportunity to kite

hard nexus
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due to draw time, mag sizes, and time to go into flamer alt fire

polar nexus
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it's not like you won't get back the tknife in the seconds after throwing it...

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you don't need to deplete your mag to get full burn stacks

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you only need to apply them and then use the knife to tap heads and proce uncanny

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I fail to see how it's not a win win

coarse birch
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Flamer is just an easier answer though

polar nexus
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yeah but it's not like you have just the crusher alone, think about all the shit right next to it eating your dodges

coarse birch
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Ye in most situations i wouldnt reccomend it really, if you have uncanny or piety up you could probably kill them fast enough it would work but

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Flamer is def the better answer you can make distance with knife anyway

hushed knoll
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Hello keet

sacred jay
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You use thowing knives to shorten draw. I use shroudfield to hide while i draw flamer

hushed knoll
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Hello Yoshi

sacred jay
coarse birch
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Hello stan

misty nova
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And that's hilarious to think about

sacred jay
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It is indeed funny

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And something made the build for

acoustic dune
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fellow emperor goons

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or gooners

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ready to goon?

sacred jay
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Hush

ivory marlin
acoustic dune
sullen forge
acoustic dune
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Chat

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Those are kelp

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Which remind me

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I should play minecrap

misty nova
velvet orbit
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@crisp crater i thank you for helping me on my drip journey

misty nova
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Chat

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Who wants to go on an Astroneer binge

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Until we get to the second planet

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And drop the game for another year

median steeple
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damn I forgot astroneer was a thing

misty nova
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How could you forget peak

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No but fr

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92% positive on steam

unborn relic
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uhh is the stygian kantrael mk ivg flak helm bugged for anyone else? the geometry on the goggles is busted all over the place (can't send a screenshot of that wooo)

full nebula
median steeple
violet hornet
unborn relic
misty nova
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I really want to say rendering shenanigans

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But knowing Fatshark

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It's probably real

unborn relic
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nah the model itself is having a skill issue

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everything else on it doesn't have that type of crap happening

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thanks obese megalodon

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it hurts to even look at like dear emperor

obtuse solstice
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dclaw in h40 how many slurs will I receive

misty nova
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All of them

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And even new ones

unborn relic
ripe quest
median steeple
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such is the will of the role bot

ripe quest
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So safe to say if it's fun you should try pepetoast

unborn relic
median steeple
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glumbo

velvet orbit
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can i use augmented version of stock skill or grenade to do a penance

median steeple
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yes

obtuse solstice
misty nova
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Like high CRIT chance

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Better dodges

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Massive finesse scaling

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Shit ton attack speed

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Big hammer

ripe quest
north sedge
misty nova
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Oh yeah exhillious

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Now that you are here

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Do you know if Trauma blessing

ripe quest
misty nova
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Extends the Arbites talent that counts as staggered for 5 seconds

ripe quest
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Uh, shouldn't. I'll check rq though.

runic grotto
misty nova
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You can lie to me

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Smh

ripe quest
misty nova
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And has the worst dodges

ripe quest
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ehh the dodge difference isn't that bad

runic grotto
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80% damage reduction is the best dodge you can have

misty nova
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Yes but still a fact

misty nova
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Naaaah

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Nah

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We really played the game for 2 years

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With the just dodge lol mindset

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It's not an Arbites that's going to change that

runic grotto
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I still think zealot is more fun

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If only we had a 2nd The Build™

median steeple
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soon

runic grotto
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This would literally double the fun you can have on zealot

carmine falcon
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i do better on relic zealot than melee arabebebebe still

sand trail
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Sometimes thats just how it is

runic grotto
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Darktide music or ggs music?

sand trail
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Zealot

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Like in general

ripe quest
misty nova
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Thanks loregryn

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It would be really funny with crusher if it was possible

ripe quest
misty nova
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Gun Zealot

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The fun one

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Where you point blank enemies with a brauto

violet hornet
terse fossil
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Cany you do just a flesh wound with twins skip?

misty nova
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If you can manage to have less than one wound of health 75% of the match then yeah

native sail
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trying to convince my friend to stop taking bleed for the emperor and shield of contempt

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crying

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shaking

misty nova
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Shield is ok-ish

native sail
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sobbing

cinder steeple
velvet orbit
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how does one kill a mutant during dash

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i keep doing it with fotf but it doesnt count

misty nova
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I play martyrdom
I'm at 2 wounds for 80% of the match
Even as a martyrdom player

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I can't recommend bfte

misty nova
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Which is crazy because martyrdom has a lot of wounds

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So theoretically should bfte maxxing

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Poor man's True Grit

velvet orbit
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do i have to use stock kill for it to count toward penance

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some lad said i can use augmented but

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it doesnt count

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wait

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with melee attack

safe wave
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I sleep on Runic blade

velvet orbit
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does special melee attack count

ripe quest
# misty nova Gun Zealot

That's a vague way to describe one of the definitely reasonable builds you can run on Zealot yeah. DoD, Anoint, Duelist, and Judgement are kinda just silly in statistical magnitude, especially duelist and DoD. FiF and TRS can net you a bit over 21 toughness/s (also a coherency regen delay reduction) which is kinda funny in cases like havoc where your toughness is already on the lower end and your only tangible threat are ranged enemies.

velvet orbit
median steeple
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Ok for what penance, I was under the assumption you were talking about shocking stuff?

velvet orbit
median steeple
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Oh yeah

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it does

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you just need to kill it while you're charging

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Thammer works wonders for this

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It's a bit finnicky even after all these years so be warned

velvet orbit
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did it multiple times

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no wonder

acoustic dune
velvet orbit
median steeple
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of chastise?

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yeah

velvet orbit
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dam

acoustic dune
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Ey ey zealot

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What hypothetically

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I need a hug

ripe quest
# misty nova I can't recommend bfte

It's kinda just there for cases in which you want health-specific 40% damage reduction. Almost any melee hit taken procs it, especially with a full wound setup. It alone technically counts as if you had 3 health curios for anything that would pass a wound threshold.

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Plus if you take it, restoring faith, full wound martyrdom, and UD/HR it'd be extremely difficult to ever die outside of disablers. Nice for newer players since you get the natural comeback mechanic of Martyrdom + a multitude of safety nets for taking health damage.

ivory marlin
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Chat edge of fates drops on the 15th

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Cant wait to play more destiny 2

median steeple
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Idk I was interested in it but fuck I'm burned out of destiny

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I'll come back for the plaguelands return

ivory marlin
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Real

sullen forge
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So thankful I never got into D2

visual stream
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That and restoring faith

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Even if it's stinky health shenanigans, it's a lot more effective health I would imagine

visual stream
median steeple
ivory marlin
visual stream
velvet orbit
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how 2 shocking stuff

median steeple
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angle

velvet orbit
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do i get my bots killed on purpose

visual stream
ivory marlin
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Chat ima be real i dont even play d2 i just load it up make mmy characters look cool then get off

median steeple
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real

visual stream
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That's the only way to play it really

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D1 was peak

ivory marlin
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Here is my textureless titan

visual stream
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Ever since then has been slopiny

visual stream
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If you're quick about it

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You might be able to use relic blade

velvet orbit
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i

visual stream
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Maybe Ironhelm thunder hammer or heavy sword

velvet orbit
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will have a friend to help me out ig

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oooooor

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@crisp crater are u avail now

ivory marlin
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But also the textures are missing

velvet orbit
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i'll just get a flamer

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and sumbodee

ivory marlin
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Guys someone tell bungo to buff void

void bison
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what the freak

velvet orbit
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it's funny how zealot penances are hard as shit and the reward is you get to be a sadist

ivory marlin
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Hi my beautiful yog

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Look at my son

hearty nebula
void bison
velvet orbit
ivory marlin
ivory marlin
velvet orbit
hearty nebula
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and then they nerfed it

visual stream
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I miss my Armor of Light and fourth horseman

hearty nebula
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😭

visual stream
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PvP was so funny because I would just hang out in my bubble and the kills came to me

ivory marlin
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Recently i got the caty for le monarch

visual stream
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Except for when it was a stormcaller warlock or split nova bomb warlock

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fuck them

hearty nebula
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i haven't played d2 in years at this point

ivory marlin
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God i love hip firing it

ivory marlin
velvet orbit
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and make him my son

ivory marlin
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Loot at his little baby legs

velvet orbit
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for now, enjoy the time you have left with him

ivory marlin
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Id kill to keep him safe

velvet orbit
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suit yourself

void bison
ivory marlin
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Id kill the warp and save him

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Pretty simple really

broken vessel
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trap him inside an eldar wraith construct

void bison
ivory marlin
crisp crater
naive matrix
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Alternate universe zealot: benevolent emperor, judge this damned soul!

velvet orbit
misty nova
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Gonna name my Arbites Dog-Denier and my dog Not-a-dog

carmine falcon
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name him DOG

void bison
acoustic dune
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the hound name

plush estuary
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people ask why I love taxe

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this is part of it

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bursters are so annoying in solo

plush estuary
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this was like a 15 min attempt

crisp crater
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I love her so much. :3

plush estuary
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did you hear that her voice actor lost her voice after some of the intense parts?

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she did an amazing job

misty nova
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Hahaha
Faputa
Hahahah

plush estuary
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*lost her voice for a bit

misty nova
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What a name

crisp crater
acoustic dune
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(i never read or watch the show)

crisp crater
acoustic dune
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knowing and what clip i saw

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idk

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shit never goes fine

plush estuary
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MiA is like that

acoustic dune
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children soup in a canteen

jagged cradle
acoustic dune
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sound like a scary situation

plush estuary
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I hate how my phones tells me I got reacted

violet hornet
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You can turn off reaction notifs

plush estuary
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going to

ripe quest
plush estuary
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yes

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2tap

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gavo 430

misty nova
plush estuary
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haovc 40

north sedge
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gavo 430

plush estuary
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am in duo

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mid hrode

violet hornet
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Haovc 40 hrode?

north sedge
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can't believe you can type during a gavo 430

plush estuary
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yes

misty nova
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Hrode 💀

violet hornet
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Ainz about to cook some bubblegum chicken afterwards

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Or is Friday mayo encrusted chicken day I cannot recall

slate notch
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Is it heresy not to quite like the taxe yet even after the buffs? I dunno...

north sedge
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nope

misty nova
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Taxe is shit anywaya

north sedge
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ainz is gonna freak out during havoc because his phone alarm for "ice cream cake" from 3 months ago went off

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(stan did this the other day)

slate notch
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Good, 2nd step: Is it heresy to say that I think it sucks a liiiiiiittle bit???

north sedge
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nope

misty nova
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I'm literally saying it's shit

slate notch
misty nova
violet hornet
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Granted that's likely Stan's preferred level of meltiness

north sedge
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i think the alarm was to take it out of the freezer

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or pick it up? i dont remember

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either way it was very funny

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he also has 600 alarms that go off everyday it's incredible

violet hornet
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He should really just keep an ice cream cake partially thawed at all times just in case

north sedge
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true

violet hornet
frozen kernel
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600 chances to snap him out of a trance

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Giga brain

north sedge
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well he freaks out everytime no matter what the alarm is, and doesn't delete them

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just blames the phone

frozen kernel
violet hornet
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Probably a disaster if he deleted the wrong one at this point haha

violet hornet
north sedge
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i mean in 9 months the ice cream cake alarm could be relevant again so why delete it

sullen forge
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Taxe hating if it was a job for Higui

median steeple
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boring weapon = shit

mighty kestrel
north sedge
solar gorge
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that's not that bad of an idea

mighty kestrel
solar gorge
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Taxe would actually be cool if you could throw it

#

instead of being Taxe

north sedge
#

and put a little dab of shit on it

solar gorge
#

for good measure

misty nova
solar gorge
#

is that the guy from dune

frosty herald
solar gorge
#

yes

#

yes of course I do

#

but one that you can use in melee too

misty nova
#

Good enough

#

Welcome back Javelin

mighty root
misty nova
#

Weapon with a cap

#

Insta shit

solar gorge
#

nah don't even bring facts or some silly shit like that

#

just say it's a plain old boring ass axe

#

like a normal person

heady rapids
#

the t in taxe stands for tunnel

#

carpal tunnel

mighty root
# sullen forge

Gale i love the vigilant on zealot i didn’t know it one tapped gunners

median steeple
mighty root
#

No one ever told me this

#

I ran tac axe and vigilant in a 40

#

Was so fun

solar gorge
#

Umbrella knows how to take care of someone's dentition, that shit's perfect

mighty root
#

Gunners were not an issue at all

solar gorge
#

perfect alignment, not a hint of yellow

mighty root
median steeple
#

language

#

no more cheerios for you

mighty root
#

Sorry

mighty root
#

I love mah Cheerios

median steeple
#

pure unfiltered rot

solar gorge
#

the rot consumes

mighty root
solar gorge
mighty root
#

I was crying

frozen kernel
mighty root
#

@sullen forge would it be worth it on the vigilant to pick unarmored for havoc instead of maniac?

frozen kernel
#

SPREADING OF HERETICAL WORDS OF WORSHIP

MANDATED EDICT: I dunno man I’m tired

sullen forge
mighty root
#

Guh

#

Unyielding would help with reapers

#

That would be nice

median steeple
#

whatever go my chudlings

tough radish
#

is there a way to build a relic blade psyker with the flame grenades? Since im not that great at making builds, ive looked at a bunch of them online and everybody goes the knives (which I think are boring)

craggy jackal
#

You take the knives because the talents before them are the best

#

If you want the flame nades, go down the right side to get to them (anoint purge and restoring faith)

#

You still want to take the talent before knives so hit second wind

#

Then build as you normally would

tough radish
#

ok thx for the confirmation

heady rapids
#

what happened to fbc

misty nova
#

It flopped at the start

north sedge
#

Also immediately on gamepass

misty nova
#

5 missions

#

Alright ish missions

#

To unlock gear you had to expend x amount of resources

median steeple
misty nova
#

Which means that you had to unlock worthless cosmetics/sprays to get better gear

#

(they changed this part)

#

A tier one lewis gun shot like a semi auto

misty nova
#

A t3 lewis gun shot like a lewis gun

north sedge
#

I wasn't that hot on it playtest

misty nova
#

Piss breakers are shit enemies

#

The good news is that heals and ammo are plenty

heady rapids
#

i was gonna get it but then i got invited into the playtest

misty nova
#

You can go down as many times as you want

heady rapids
#

so uh

#

yeah

misty nova
#

It's an okay ish game

#

Just not a lot of things to do

#

And the whole flashlight thing is annoying to deal with

#

I stopped playing when they made the wrench deal damage so idk how much changed since then

#

But the furnace mission last event took forever

#

Sticky and Pink were okay

#

Cold took forever

#

Radioactive exists

violet hornet
#

Still can't believe they removed the melee attack from the wrench on launch

#

And then patched it back in like two days later

north sedge
#

i was surpised by that when talking to someone who had only played launch

misty nova
#

Gnome felt like it does nothing

#

Just self damage

#

And with electric and some perks

#

You can farm gnome like crazy

violet hornet
#

Iirc they let you swing it still but it did zero damage, only stagger

violet hornet
misty nova
#

Yeah and depending on the map geometry you could insta kill some fodder

north sedge
#

Yea that's nuts

violet hornet
#

Pretty sure all the open beta equipment was made into mid level stuff so on launch everyone was playing with starting equipment that underperformed compared to the beta as well

#

That and the seemingly unnecessary change in level length / structure probably just left people very confused haha

north sedge
#

Which is wild cause the guns didn't feel great either

violet hornet
misty nova
#

Synergy? Just go water boy
Does everything

#

Hot? Water

#

Pink?

#

Water

#

Radioactive? Water

#

Getting overwhelmed?

#

Water

#

Sticky? Water

#

W A T E R

#

Low health?
Deploy the water dispenser

north sedge
misty nova
median steeple
#

gaining 5 pounds worth of water weight because it tastes so good

golden flint
#

What is supression chat

misty nova
#

For the player

#

Weapon Sway goes up

#

Unable to shoot straight properly

#

For enemies

#

Inaccuracy

#

Followed by stop shooting

#

Followed by taking cover or cowering on the spot

full nebula
misty nova
violet hornet
tame sluice
golden flint
#

How's it work?

tame sluice
#

As in your weapon

tame sluice
#

you get shot at a lot and your aim gets all fucky

#

In that clip it's an Infantry Lasgun which has by far the worst suppression effects

golden flint
#

Like is it an inherent part of shooting at enemies or a special attribute?

tame sluice
#

Oh yes enemies are also affected by suppression if you shoot at them

gleaming furnace
#

inherent but most enemies cant get suppressed

tame sluice
#

at low suppression enemy aim will be substantially less accurate

#

at higher suppression they'll be forced to run for cover and stunned for several seconds

golden flint
tame sluice
#

Most enemies can't be suppressed

gleaming furnace
#

yea i think its only them

golden flint
#

Can gunners be supressed?

tame sluice
#

Only the ranged enemies can be suppressed (except shotgunners)

#

So Gunners, Reapers, Shooters, and Stalkers

golden flint
#

Good to know

tame sluice
#

Stalkers are extremely resistant to suppression though

#

And recover from it quickly

golden flint
#

Stalkers are the sniper guys right?

tame sluice
#

No

#

Stalkers are the guys that full auto laserbeam you

golden flint
#

Oh huh

tame sluice
#

Shooters are the basic traitor guardsmen

golden flint
#

I thought the gunner scabs were the machine gun laser guys

tame sluice
#

Part of why dreg faction missions are harder is because every single basic dreg ranged enemy is a Stalker

#

And imo they're the most dangerous enemies in the entire game

#

Even outside of Havoc, but especially in Havoc

golden flint
#

Funky

tame sluice
#

They do ridiculous amounts of damage in a very short time frame and are super aggressive

tame sluice
golden flint
#

Oh okay

misty nova
#

Worth nothing that every ranged weapon has a suppression value per shot and a suppression value on kill

#

So "killing is the best suppression" has merits to it

stone fern
tame sluice
#

I dunno man I haven't fiddled with my settings in ages

solar gorge
#

ironeye dies once and dc's, he think he zealot from dt fr

silver leaf
tame sluice
#

it's a Scab stalker

#

All traitor guardsmen are Scabs

silver leaf
#

Ok yea he definitely sucks

tame sluice
#

All admonition cultists are Dregs

sand trail
#

cavalcade vs puncture for boss killing boltgun?

#

assuming pinning fire stays on

tame sluice
#

cavalcade+shattering impact for boss bolter

sand trail
#

oooh kk

tame sluice
#

you can't stagger bosses so pinning fire won't be active unless they have fodder around them

hexed igloo
#

Yeah you can't

desert vessel
#

What perks and blessings on agri shotgun

misty nova
#

Flakiac

#

Full Bore No Respite

maiden yoke
#

i got this bad boy back in the twins update what yall think?

hexed igloo
#

My goat gaben could never

maiden yoke
#

it wrecks hoards

mighty root
desert vessel
#

Which knife is best for zealot

maiden yoke
maiden yoke
gaunt roost
#

stalker is a made up term

#

press it and then hit things

#

oh u deleted

tame sluice
#
#

these two goobers are shooters

#

the two infront of them are stalkers

gaunt roost
tame sluice
#

Stalkers have more health, fire faster, can shoot while moving, and have a backup melee weapon rather than bayonet

gaunt roost
#

the more you know

misty nova
#

Scab Shooters, my beloved

tame sluice
#

Stalkers are also more aggressive and have high suppression resistance

misty nova
#

"Oi, they are out of ammo"

gaunt roost
#

so they’re stupid and harder to kill got it

tame sluice
#

Well no them ebing more aggressive is abd thing because they fire faster

#

In havoc they can straight up instantly kill you

#

In the blink of an eye

craggy jackal
#

Someone here told me that’s worse

#

But idk

tame sluice
#

In regular gameplay they can also destroy you if they catch you off guard

#

They do a lot of damage

void bison
#

yeah the guy on the left is a stalker and the guy on the right is someone who was caught off guard

safe wave
#

Hey, I have 40 hours and i've done some Maelstrom runs, since i cannot tag a havoc in solo q, is a 16 havoc harder than a max difficulty maelstrom run?

gaunt roost
#

no

misty nova
#

Is it greyed out?

#

If so

#

Clear your filters

#

Press E or the equivalent

lean cairn
tame sluice
#

Yes there is

#

All Dreg ranged enemies are Stalkers

#

Scabs have Shooter and Stalkers

safe wave
# misty nova You can't tag?

Yeah, I need another buddy in my group to join in a match or i create one and wait, It's not like Quickplay where i can simply solo q tag

#

According to the terminal next to the komissar

#

Or maybe me ogryn minded

misty nova
#

No no

#

It needs 2 to start

#

It's just that sometimes a filter activates

#

And greys out the option

#

It happens more than it should

misty nova
#

Lisan Al-Ribbit

safe wave
void bison
visual stream
void bison
#

bullfrogs and colossus toads are venerated

visual stream
#

Peak

void bison
visual stream
#

Roll Rimworld characters, one of them is a hypersexual bisexual woman who is also psychotic and great at combat
This is the least strange character out of my starting cast

hushed knoll
#

Hello leggy bird

#

Hello yog

gaunt roost
#

and have you started your organ farm yet

void bison
#

all the names are random generated

long oasis
slow stag
#

Is the best weapon still objectively and in no way subjectively the mark 9 sword

visual stream
#

Heavy sword?

#

Idk that's the only mark 9 sword that rings a bell

#

No, it isn't

elder maple
#

Bruh playing zealot is weird I either go on a insane kill streak and carry or die the dumbest way possible

manic yacht
#

Gosh we love dashing with the bolt pistol, poke and shoot. It’s like a big “fuck you” to that one particular heretic

manic yacht
#

Poke and shoot is underrated

#

Even without the dash. Specially is you have Close up blast blessing and bleed

reef plaza
#

I kept asking what blessings I should use and never got a response so I just used run and gun and the headshot one

manic yacht
#

Ya should give the close up blast one specifically if you poke and shoot. It make it so you hit multiple targets and stagger them if not flat out throw them on the ground

reef plaza
#

I don’t poke and shoot a lot unless I’m just having fun with a group of like 5 poxwalkers

Whenever I see a group that would benefit from any of that I’m already dashing in to them FotF and swinging my eviscerator like a kid off his ADHD meds

plush estuary
#

I'd like to report a murder

plush estuary
#

its my fort

burnt bobcat
craggy jackal
#

leaving out faithful frenzy feels bad

#

theres a few places you could salvage a point but thats more whatever you feel like giving up

#

the loner + stealth penances suck dick though i feel you

fluid rapids
#

could some of you zealot mains look over my build and give me some pointers

#

im still fairly new to the class

#

i kinda miss faithful frenzy but i cant really fit it in without sacrificing something thats more important than that

burnt bobcat
# fluid rapids

i think the big thing is youre gonna get pummeled for using the book

fluid rapids
#

but it pushes enemies away how is using it gonna pummel me

burnt bobcat
#

i mean people will laugh at you :P
fury of the faithful is generally considered better

fluid rapids
#

why is everyone in here so concerned with other peoples opinions, its so odd to me

#

why is fury better than chorus then

visual stream
fluid rapids
#

i went for a crit heavy build for max uptime on chorus

visual stream
#

You could forego UD and HR and go through desperation instead for the one point to get Faithful Frenzy

fluid rapids
#

whats ud and hr

golden flint
#

I like the book, I think it's ideal if you're going for a less aggressive playstyle

visual stream
#

Until Death and Holy Revenant

rocky gull
visual stream
#

It IS one of zealot's most iconic talents, but when you remember that not only do other classes not have it and do fine, but also that you're gonna be spamming book, it's much easier to drop it

fluid rapids
fluid rapids
acoustic dune
#

Chat

#

Zealot

golden flint
fluid rapids
#

but still ive only been playing zealot for a couple of days so im not really sure what the best talents are yet

acoustic dune
#

Are they

#

Pealot

fluid rapids
golden flint
acoustic dune
#

What if zealotbjust shoot pea

rocky gull
#

“Man I love the Zealot book”

golden flint
#

I think the talent description calls it a book for some reason

acoustic dune
golden flint
#

So people call it a book

fluid rapids
acoustic dune
#

What's the definition of a book

fluid rapids
#

i think thats where it came from

rocky gull
#

i can’t fucking see then lmfao

fluid rapids
#

it confused me since day one, it shows what looks like a book but then you pull out a little idol

golden flint
#

Chanting scripture from a book would have been way cooler

fluid rapids
#

the icon and the thing itself dont even remotely look like each other

fluid rapids
#

instead i can only wear a book on my back

#

gg

golden flint
#

Worst thing about zealot is the ugly headgear

fluid rapids
#

ehm

visual stream
fluid rapids
#

unpopular opinion but i think zealot fashion is dogshit

#

its so hard to make em look good

visual stream
#

Their body pieces are awesome

#

Their leggings, neat

#

The helmets are just such horrendous dogshit

fluid rapids
#

ok i can get behind that

#

i kinda wish we could custom color our gear

visual stream
#

I've permanently run the vermintide eyepatch on my zealot since level 1

visual stream
#

All three, unsatisfying colors

spare talon
fluid rapids
visual stream
#

Oh I forgot their pfp was that

fluid rapids
#

chop chop

fluid rapids
#

for future reference

spare talon
#

i think 98% of all cosmetics in this game arent great tbh

fluid rapids
median steeple
#

Me

fluid rapids
#

what iron said most helmets are just buns

sullen forge
spare talon
#

i also am not really a 40k person so a lot of the cool factor of "omg its this factions armor!!" or "its armor with xyz identity!!" is completely lost on me

fluid rapids
#

yeah true

#

i just recently got into the whole 40k universe

#

i played vermintide for years not knowing exactly what 40k was

median steeple
sullen forge
#

the clock is ticking

fluid rapids
#

then i got into darktide and i just wanna make my characters look cool

#

but half these outfits are not worth spending money on imo

visual stream
#

Gregor's veteran chestpiece looks cool

#

Kind of weird that it's on veteran but I GUESS I can see why

#

(Literally just because the power sword)

spare talon
#

not the most recent one

#

but the one before that

fluid rapids
#

i dont remember

#

i want a skin for the boltpistol

carmine falcon
fluid rapids
#

been wanting that since i started the game

carmine falcon
#

our characters are too skinny for most sets

spare talon
#

this stuff

carmine falcon
#

on top of low quality textures and everything

fluid rapids
carmine falcon
fluid rapids
carmine falcon
#

but a lot of sets just look off

spare talon
#

the crusher and bolter also look so good

carmine falcon
#

arbite stuff surpringly have solid sets so far

#

especially the coat and deluxe edition set

carmine falcon
carmine falcon
#

literally coolest shit ever

jagged cradle
spare talon
spare talon
#

im grateful for the 5 crashes in the span of 10 minutes yesterday

jagged cradle
#

any crashes today?

carmine falcon
#

its ok game will be fixed in 5 years

#

they will find good coders in sweden next decade

ripe quest
north sedge
#

Absurd, they should be there for sabotage

ripe quest
#

Like the content creator builds make sense in that aspect as they literally get it to play early (and by proxy make content prior to release).

ripe quest
calm thorn
#

which lasgun should i use?

jagged cradle
#

lazpistol

north sedge
#

As a zealot, basically only the pistol

#

Everything else you'll get suppressed to shit and won't do much with anyway

sand trail
#

had a run as zealot on dark communion with no modifiers

#

the AI spaened like nothing but gunners

ripe quest
calm thorn
#

ah, didnt know the suppression was that bad

ripe quest
#

It's a bit annoying but truthfully not awful. However Zealot kinda just pairs better with the autoguns anyways.

plush estuary
#

meow will run

#

@sullen forge

golden flint
#

The infantry lasgun just feels like doodoofart

visual stream
#

Can I let you in on a little secret

#

||that's because it is||

acoustic dune
cerulean moth
#

current tac axe build?

craggy jackal
#

bm headtaker
flak unarmored

#

Somebody said shred over headtaker I guess that’s something people do

jagged cradle
acoustic dune
#

Chat

signal spoke
void bison
#

argle blargle agh!!!

median steeple
#

The blov

acoustic dune
median steeple
acoustic dune
#

'v'

desert vessel
#

Which combat blade mark is good

craggy jackal
#

3

#

Some people like 6

cinder steeple
#

God I love the flamer and throwing knife

#

I kinda want to pair relic blade with it but it feels wrong

ebon bobcat
acoustic dune
#

Chat

#

Ia zealot chat dead

ripe quest
acoustic dune
#

I blame the lack of rework

#

That will never ever come

ripe quest
acoustic dune
#

So we get more stuff to complain about

void bison
ripe quest
# acoustic dune More bleed for zealot

The real test to see if someone who is working on the Zealot rework is based or not is to ask them two questions:

  • What are you doing to FiF
  • What are you doing to Blazing Piety

If they don't have an answer they aren't part of the zealot agenda

#

ez as that

burnt cloud
#

Zealot is fine, stop all work on that class and commit all resources to Veteran. It will uh, enhance, for reasons and to like... help.

lofty python
#

Hello siblings

golden flint
#

Instead of fixing veteran they'll drop a scion class dlc which is just veteran but better KEKW_ogryn

lofty python
#

Everything is better than veteran

burnt cloud
#

they could delete veteran as a class if they did it, i wouldnt care

lofty python
#

W

golden flint
#

Vet and zealot are like the powerless dudes on a superhero team

burnt cloud
#

the batmans of the justice league, its fucking embarassing

golden flint
#

Batman at least has the power of generational wealth

cinder steeple
#

Vet and zealot still strong

#

Anti-cope

burnt cloud
#

yeah but even that is reliant on taking the unrestrained capitalism node

ripe quest
#

Zealot at max capacity is pretty strong still. Just requires quite a lot more effort.

golden flint
#

It's more like hawkeye or something KEKW_ogryn

burnt cloud
#

jesus christ you're right

#

Its Hawkeye and Black Widow. Aiming and stabbing. /vomit