zealot-class

[misty nova]

The man that sleeps ready to fight at orbital reentry is a fool but once

🗣️

Or something along those lines

[delicate shadow]

SO TRUE

[velvet orbit]

what do i dump on hammer

[drowsy steppe]

defences

[silver leaf]

Thunder hammer good blessings?

I don’t see it in the guides

[silver leaf]

Oh shoot I overlooked it. Thanks @clever swan

[clever swan]

le heckin wholesome updoot chungus moment

[delicate shadow]

I bet he prefers dry motte and bailey

[north sedge]

Maniac is weird suggestion for hammer these days

[clever swan]

somehow this is stan

[north sedge]

Somehow, stan

[clever swan]

he does it on purpose i bet

[clever swan]

"pure and innocent, erroneous" stan is just an act!

[median steeple]

Peeper

[drowsy steppe]

thats just a theory

a game theory

[north sedge]

Stan has chosen to be a slave to his phone

[median steeple]

He's the test dummy for new black mirror episodes

[plush estuary]

I'll probably take it off

Flak cara then cara/unyield for havoc (flak being an honorable mention for havoc if you want to 2 tap captains)

[north sedge]

He has 80 alarms set on his phone and won't remove them, last night in havoc one went off for "remember birthday cake" from 3 months ago causing him to panic briefly

[plush estuary]

Iirc with headtaker stacks and a special it can 1 tap rager

Nonhavoc

*light special

Thats with maniac

[north sedge]

Slaughterer should also be there as an option

[plush estuary]

That's true

I just don't like it's uptime compared to headtaker

I feel like if the stacks lasted longer it'd be a bit better then headtaker

I'm not at my pc and I can only edit it from my PC, so I will add it later

[north sedge]

It comes down to preference but i never found it that difficult to keep going

[tawny mirage]

L class

[grizzled laurel]

wheres she going

[acoustic dune]

to pet the ferrets

[grizzled laurel]

good for her

[clever swan]

ur obsessed with ferrets

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-im-no-im-not-joker-kips-gif-22852248

[silver leaf]

The guide is still extremely helpful even if a minor detail may be outdated. I leveled to 30 in several hours time following the crit path

[grave cypress]

note to self

daemonhosts if you chuck them off the edge teleport back up

[visual stream]

Depends on timing

[upbeat blaze]

Hello zealoters

I’m mod now so behave or else

[noble hill]

blood for the emperor

[inland dust]

Hey so I haven't used the party finder too much.
How difficult is it to get people to join your group for penances? All I have left in my zealot and psyker are the private game ones

[grizzled laurel]

the in game one is basically havoc only

but you can ask in the relevant class or lfg channel

[inland dust]

Ah ok gotcha thanks

[light badge]

I swear having an arby in high havoc is a total coinflip between them being god tier or about as good as two bots in a trenchcoat

this game (havoc 31 btw) had both lmao

[pale spindle]

This is how Frogs survived 5 extinction events

[sturdy cypress]

King Frog, depart unto me, a humble servant, a mere pittance of your wisdom

[drifting wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xk8T5bNvfaQ

[velvet orbit]

are the relic blade and eviscerator basically the space marine sized power sword and chainsword ?

or they're slightly smaller

[violet hornet]

All our stuff is scaled down compared to marine gear

[velvet orbit]

@mild sparrow also i spent 300k+ for a stat dumped evis just for this piece of shit appear later

[velvet orbit]

that's why i'm comparing relic sword and eviscerator to them because they're comically large

[silver leaf]

These have got to be new players to do poorly

[median steeple]

they're just large weapons that are still too small for space marines

[velvet orbit]

now that answer it

[violet hornet]

I haven't seen a direct comparison for chain weapons but at least for bolters the info online says "trying to wield this marine sized weapon as a normal human would very likely kill you"

[light badge]

New players getting carried by a broken class

You can't really pay to win your way out of basic game sense

[velvet orbit]

also my head cannon for the human bolter is that it uses less powder than a regular bolter, as the barrel size looks the same with the space marine's one

[violet hornet]

Probably some exceptions for hero level humans like old bale eye being able to wield an Ork powa klaw

[velvet orbit]

since .75 caliber is literally around 19mm

[violet hornet]

This could definitely be the case

[velvet orbit]

actually human bolter could be 12-13mm

as we have high explosive 12mm irl

who knows

the writers fucking suck

[silver leaf]

I’m really enjoying pox busters being shot in my face point blank

[velvet orbit]

just looked up an image for reference, the barrel is too small for 12-13mm

[wary lagoon]

Eh. Don't bother trying to rationalize science fiction.
If you ask me, the fact bolters fire gyrojets largely mean they have significantly less recoil than what we commonly believe

[silver leaf]

The thunder hammer probably has some internal piston projectile thing going on because it makes the clap sound on impact

[velvet orbit]

if it said that a human will be ripped in half if they try to use a space marine bolter
which mean we can conclude that it has more spicy load

[wary lagoon]

And that's not even accounting for how comically large and presumably heavy the gun is- Which would reduce recoil further.

[mild sparrow]

You think that's bad, try to find a perfect stat plasma or ripper

[wary lagoon]

Or, more likely, the fiction was written in the 90s where information regarding irl experiments and shenanigans is limited, and the authors try to make sense of their universe.

[velvet orbit]

anyway since gyrojet weapons are known to be terrible at AP

and a bolter is roughly 20mm and can penetrate a space marine armour

which mean us human can stand against space marine

[wary lagoon]

Muh diamantine tips in lore

[silver leaf]

Not to be a hater but they probably just had people that weren’t that versed in real science write the lore

[wary lagoon]

^

[silver leaf]

Philosophy also for that matter

[wary lagoon]

It's just random bullshit that's cool to read but makes zero sense.

[silver leaf]

Yes which is fine by me if I’m being really honest

[velvet orbit]

rule of cool

i respect that

[velvet orbit]

i like to overthink cuz it's fun sometimes

[wary lagoon]

That's pretty much the only thing keeping things acceptable.

[silver leaf]

Not every sci fi writer can obtain a PhD in biology or physics before starting their work, so it creates an unfair floor of entry for people with fun but likely whimsical ideas

[velvet orbit]

imperium in a nutshell is basically primates using high end tech

wait how did we went from zealot to 40k lote

[silver leaf]

I mean I’m somewhat the same. Mentally it’s hard not to try to create structure and systems out of something

[wary lagoon]

I still don't understand how hive cities to grow to reach tens of billions of people in spite of their apparent godawful living conditions

Youd think being forced to work in a factory for most of your day is a conducive environment for raising a child

[silver leaf]

To be human in the 41 century is to number among untold millions…

[wary lagoon]

Let alone enough to grow a population to billions in the span of a couple thousand years

[silver leaf]

:^)

[wary lagoon]

Like- Where on earth does all the materiel for building hive cities come from

[silver leaf]

Economically dedicated planets makes sense enough on its own

[wary lagoon]

There's only so much fictional materials you can extract from a planet that you're making sky-piercing citadels the size of continents

And the fact that massive planets are somehow controlled by a single planetary governor, without any kind of war or internal strife between regions

[silver leaf]

Yes that would follow. Then they have mining planets where people live in even lower quality squalor

[silver leaf]

Yes this is where they lose touch

[wary lagoon]

Given the lore saying they have godawful living conditions, I just don't see people, you know... Making kids.

Unless they either turn every dead/dying citizen into servitors

Or have a literal breeding program

[silver leaf]

40k is most realistic in saying that the bureaucracy constantly mismanages everything

[wary lagoon]

40k is a caricature of authoritarian shenanigans where there is literally only war

[silver leaf]

According to darktide everyone is ugly as a 17th century cockney yokel also

[wary lagoon]

So yeah, where does the population come from

[silver leaf]

Lmao

[wary lagoon]

Do they literally count servitors as human

Maybe a cloning program?

Or does everyone just breed like rabbits behind the scenes

After all, at the rate people die in factories, let alone die in wars

There's no way to sustain a massive population and still keep it stable

[silver leaf]

If they sacrifice 10,000 psykers a day then that’s somewhat an extrapolation of the total population size based on psyker prevalence

[wary lagoon]

Even if you canonically feed people corpse starch

[silver leaf]

The concept of obtaining enough education to use complex technology is also pretty stretched

[wary lagoon]

Best to just shut your brain off and enjoy the spectacle. Engaging with the lore past the surface level is going to ruin your immersion.

[silver leaf]

That’s typically it

If you have background on medical the space marine creation process will leave you speechless

[wary lagoon]

I don't even understand what a space marine is supposed to be capable of

[silver leaf]

To almost live and survive like the xenos do is the best i understand

[long oasis]

the imperium is so large that at any given time the vast majority of it is not at war

most places arent even that bad to live in

[silver leaf]

They can’t breath in a zero oxygen environment but they can in low and toxic ones

[wary lagoon]

You'd think that, all else being equal, a space marine and its chaos counterpart would be relatively evenly matched- Hell, chaos marines would technically have more experience due to being captive in the warp

But no, named space marines will gladly mow down throw entire hordes of csm

Like they're just some mobs on the way to fight whoever is wearing chaos termi armor

[long oasis]

chaos space marines have zero supply lines and shitty recruits

[wary lagoon]

They have warp-infused weaponry and blessings of chaos

They cannot die- They just get sent back to the immaterium to be summoned again

[long oasis]

chaos space marines?

[silver leaf]

So for someone that knows, are the chaos gods a devil like entity where they neglect and disregard their human adherents?

[wary lagoon]

So they hypothetically have infinitely more experience fighting wars than newer space marines do

[long oasis]

youre thinking of daemons, chaos space marines for the most part dont come back after being killed

[wary lagoon]

All space marines get over csms are more advanced equipment that didn't exist during the horus heresy

And in spite of being comically outnumbered due to a certain primarch limiting the size of space marine companies

It's still amazing how in the lore, they can inflict such disproportionate casualties

Feels like it's only ever dire if the space marines are fighting necrons

[long oasis]

Not all of them would be that well equiped or favored. sure the heresy veterans are probably way stronger but any new recruits will not be getting any of that

but youre right that loyalists get massive amounts of plot armor

[undone pewter]

Yo

Check this shit out

[misty nova]

See?

Happy with money

Not happy without money

(doesn't look that much happy with money though)

[violet hornet]

His greed sickens me

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-hop-on-factorio-factorio-gif-18054749029849975799

https://tenor.com/view/factorio-moment-gif-21899610

[median steeple]

yo I'm losing my mind

guhhhh

[hard nexus]

wju

whyu

wju

why

[violet hornet]

Stan infection confirmed

[hard nexus]

i was stupid before stan was even a concept

[median steeple]

GRAAAAAAAAAAH WE LOST A HAV 31 because our plasma DS vet kept going down

we was hav 40 and everything

[hard nexus]

this is what happens when im not there

[median steeple]

Crazy

[hard nexus]

why does he say sex breakers

he says fucking sex breakers

why

[median steeple]

glad I wasn't hearing things

my favourite part of fighting disablers is doing this

tickles my brain

GRAAAAAAAAH

it didn't

save

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/elden-ring-nightreign/clips/kF0nu0k1br1N4VShe?invite=cr-MSxkUFYsMjA0ODY2MDQ3

[median steeple]

is cica LSTR also ultra wide monitor moment

[hard nexus]

noh lstr is someone else

[median steeple]

one cell

fuck it I give up with that clip

it refuses

[hard nexus]

ur a single celled organism

[misty nova]

It's a person that stops other people from having sex

[hard nexus]

those are called cock blockers

[median steeple]

I fixed it

I'm a genous

I love disablers

[misty nova]

40k version

[hard nexus]

true

dont sex break me bro

pause

that sounds

hrm

[ocean stratus]

im having a hard time dealing with mixed waves with the thunder hammer any ideas?

[hard nexus]

heavy spam

[median steeple]

that or you could run flamer

[hard nexus]

if ur using crucius

[median steeple]

real and ture

[hard nexus]

just heavy spam

[ocean stratus]

it stops at flak armored

[hard nexus]

and use empowered lights to snipe out ragers

[hard nexus]

wha

no it doesnt

[median steeple]

post your hammer since it shouldn't

[ocean stratus]

one sec

in a mission

[misty nova]

See if you can get Grievous Wounds

Makes hammer heavies more safer against

Everything

[hard nexus]

if its a thammer build there should be a point for it

[desert vessel]

is master crafted shroudfield or perfectionist better

[misty nova]

Perfectionist

[hard nexus]

specifically ragers

[misty nova]

[hard nexus]

mastercrafted

that extra damage is unneeded

and util from more stealth is better

[desert vessel]

i need shroudfield build to do the shroudfield penances basically

[hard nexus]

then mastercrafted

hold on

[misty nova]

Smh my goat being a damage denier

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[desert vessel]

nice

also, which dclaw mark is good

[hard nexus]

mk4 and mk7

[visual stream]

None of them

[median steeple]

ancient screenshot

[hard nexus]

the archives

[visual stream]

They are fun though so

Use anyway

[desert vessel]

except rashad, what other weapons are good with shroudfield

[visual stream]

Knife is the first thing that comes to mind

[misty nova]

None

(4 or 7)

[ocean stratus]

still leveling the mastery

[visual stream]

Has anyone told you the perk setup yet?

[misty nova]

None of the chain weapons

[visual stream]

Doesn't the chastise tech work with shroudfield too or no?

[misty nova]

Shroudfield only applies to the first hit iirc

Unlike chastise

[visual stream]

Strange

[ocean stratus]

is there an specific one?

[visual stream]

Chastise 100 - Shroudfield 0

[misty nova]

It's just FS mechanics at their best

[visual stream]

Perks for thammer are usually Carapace, then your choice of Unyielding or Flak

[misty nova]

However I have a theory about evis3 shroudfield

[acoustic dune]

chat

help

i am watching monster hunter cooking food

[visual stream]

Your blessings are on point for Crucis

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-patrick-staring-patrick-star-staring-spongebob-squarepants-gif-7539111707904192075

[ocean stratus]

i was asking how to deal with mixed waves cuz my hits are stopping at maulers and flak

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-food-last-bite-mhw-cooking-gif-10415116539908623938

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/momter-hunter-gif-17835023022221990634

[fading vale]

use F a lot and/or gun

[visual stream]

I believe they're supposed to stop at maulers, maybe scab ragers too since their body is carapace? Shouldn't stop at bruisers though

[ocean stratus]

i like having a bolt pistol to snipe out ranged specials but I guess I should run something else?

[visual stream]

Bistol is neat, bolter and flamer compliments thammer a bit more though

All three work though so do your thing however you prefer

[ocean stratus]

i want to impregnate daemonhosts but maulers say nope

[visual stream]

[misty nova]

We are going to ignore the first half of your statement

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971904116144095292/1298312105069514812/media-iv-text.gif

[misty nova]

[ocean stratus]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9eff0d65-4131-41e5-b6f9-c47996588c14/go-go-gadget-daemonhost-impregnator-kneecap-remover

[misty nova]

But if it's stopping at maulers because of their carapace

Aim bodies

[visual stream]

And it's mpregnate around these parts, buster

[misty nova]

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-bread-gif-21248333

[misty nova]

I will not say shit about this build

I will not say shit about this build

I will not say shit.....

[visual stream]

@ocean stratus If you really want the super-host-inator for full meme, you want to use Shroudfield

[ocean stratus]

im not going full impregnator cuz im not running wound builds

[misty nova]

You almost have Grievous Wounds on that build

[visual stream]

General use, you'll still kill em with chastose though

[misty nova]

😭

[fluid rapids]

so uncanny strikes

[visual stream]

However, one change

[fluid rapids]

even if i hit different targets

[long oasis]

drop ewew for grievous

[fluid rapids]

the rending stays right?

[visual stream]

If you're running marty

You should full commit to the wound curios

[long oasis]

yes and it refreshes so long as you hit heads

[fluid rapids]

ok cool

[long oasis]

even if you miss it wont go away like shred

[fluid rapids]

man i slept on zealot this class is so fun holy shit

[fluid rapids]

ok cool cool

need to work on my aim but for now using precog uncanny feels really good

[ocean stratus]

all classes are fun except veteran unless u do grenade memes

[fluid rapids]

yeah thats what i only play on vet

but then again might as well play rumbler ogryn

[misty nova]

Unfortunately
Grenade memes are addictive

[fluid rapids]

vet was my first main but he feels so ass on anything above auric

zealot is just a dopamine generator

but then again i come from vt2 so this feels right at home

[long oasis]

ur build naming scheme reminds me of someone

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d542ea0-2eca-412b-979e-a74c9d3ede8b/left-click-lobotomite-immortal

[ocean stratus]

yeah but because of that u might end up too addicted to dopamine highs and need to do something boring again to balance it out

[ocean stratus]

its not my build

also thats the same person

@spare talon

[long oasis]

oh I thought it was your build

[fluid rapids]

i can play arby then

jk arby fun af

[long oasis]

no its not wat

[misty nova]

Real

Whenever I have a Chainsword on my hands

[fluid rapids]

god forbid people have opinions

[misty nova]

I just vroom vroom non stop

[fluid rapids]

chainsword or evis?

[misty nova]

Even chastising into DH

[long oasis]

I was talking to the other dude

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246140539039252481/1337259957535375381/IMG_1886.gif

[misty nova]

Chainsword
Xiiig specifically

[fluid rapids]

me when i lie

[misty nova]

With the Eviscerators I'm bloodthirsty

[long oasis]

I named my dog cupcake

[misty nova]

With the chainsword I'm fast

[sturdy cypress]

What is your pfp dude

[fluid rapids]

ok i need to give it a bit more time havent really used it that much

you prefer it over evis?

[fluid rapids]

fat zoeey with a glock

you like?

[sturdy cypress]

Mama didnt raise no liar so no actually i think i really hate it!

[fluid rapids]

good boy

[sturdy cypress]

But thats just my opinion go ahead and cancel me see if i care

[fluid rapids]

i dont really give a shit brotha

all good

[misty nova]

Not really
I main Eviscerator 15

Xiiig is just

Brain off light spam crits

[fluid rapids]

oh yeah i just unlocked that

its just BRRRRRR VRRRRRR and everything dies

peak gaming

[violet hornet]

Cole would definitely run EWEW and immo nades

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/king-anime-talking-gif-16714459

[long oasis]

yea because he likes playing in the mud and eating sand

[median steeple]

when i get into the car that teleports me into a rock

[plush estuary]

natives are angry

but also dead

[ocean stratus]

maybe i should actually do sneaky impregnation memes...

[polar nexus]

🫃

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-computer-smile-yellow-smile-surprised-gif-26981337

[sullen forge]

Failed an Auric because I had to hard carry final event and got burstered from it hopping around multiple corners and ignoring a push

love darktide

very flawless game

[carmine falcon]

what are those special numbers damn

[sullen forge]

there was minimum

5 tox bombers and snipers in play

at all time

[carmine falcon]

damn i should play some games today if aurics are this juiced

[sullen forge]

Literally could see them from half way across the map

[carmine falcon]

qp or malestrom

[sullen forge]

HISTG

[carmine falcon]

noice

[sullen forge]

Bro I am stuck

on 99/100 for 100% on arby

cause i keep getting actual fucking sandbags in Auric

Literally just started rolling steel

my entire team is down

[fluid rapids]

bahahahaha

peak rolling steel experience

[sullen forge]

The mission just fucking started

After that happened I just said yeah im not having a repeat and hopped

[fluid rapids]

you dont understand, running ahead and spawning 7 hordes is peak gaming

[carmine falcon]

average auric experience

its why i always tell people who find it boring to play with randoms

extra modifier

[fluid rapids]

HAHA

bro this is so real

extra modifier got me laughing lmao

[carmine falcon]

waves of specialists, monstrous specials, extra barrels, waves of mutants, extra barrels
hidden modifier: chance to have up to 3 deadweight teammates

[light badge]

do you guys think hp or toughness is better for havoc psyker?

[reef plaza]

Dows the power rating of a wounds curio even matter

[light badge]

no

[misty nova]

Nope

[pale spindle]

Wounds 😈

[median steeple]

I use two toughness one hp iirc

I would need to check since it's been a while

[ornate bone]

I said it might not cause the build i sent is just straight backstab damage and damage, you'll one shot anything not a mon or boss in damnation

[median steeple]

yeah I use two tough one hp for my hav 40 build

[runic grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1098834245524410388/1392906162558734366/IMG_20250709_131931_230.jpg?ex=68713c74&is=686feaf4&hm=d3ede00a91829c7ae83d7f0d4d59d2dda1c4833059ba395ef5cd7bb69dd0dfc2&=&format=webp&width=960&height=960

[median steeple]

Nightreign guardian

[long oasis]

me when I block 10 billion hits and then revive my team after 20 minutes

[stone fern]

so tru

[light badge]

havoc-viable meme build yippee

[light badge]

that's what it feels like too tbh

the range difference between FGS and BFS is very noticeable

[median steeple]

https://fxtwitter.com/finalgigan/status/1943353668348088320

Gigan (@finalgigan)

My ex-wife and i trying to figure out who gets custody of our awesome fucking golem

Quoting Neb | 🏳️‍🌈 (@NebsGoodTakes)
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Fantastic Four (2015)

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FxTwitter · Jul 10, 2025, 4:56 PM

I forgot ben is just but ass naked in this movie

[plush estuary]

@sullen forge

[median steeple]

BLOCKING ! ! ! !! !!

[sullen forge]

this fucking bird that blocks

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-cat-mewing-mewing-meme-cat-staring-cat-gif-6979404450990708267

[reef plaza]

Blessings for bolt pistol?

[signal spoke]

He kinda rocking

[north sedge]

Hey look @hushed knoll it's rock hard steve austin

(He thought that was the thing's name)

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-destiny-destiny2-gambit-laugh-gif-25143789

https://fxtwitter.com/SanAntonioZoo/status/1943322034366238870 bertpocalypse

San Antonio Zoo 🦍 (@SanAntonioZoo)

We’re gonna need more quarters

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[desert vessel]

which is the best combat shotgun mark

[median steeple]

I know for a fact the Agri was putting in work

[misty nova]

Agripina

Then Zarona

Then accatran

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

I want to take the agri to a nice dinner and whisper sweet nothings into its ear while it giggles into an oversized glass of rosè

[stray summit]

which one is the slow firing high damage one

[slate flower]

can anyone give me tips on backstabbing as a stealth zealot? (using combat blade) is it better to aim for their back or should i try to aim at the back of their heads? trying to test in the meatgrinder but it doesnt feel consistent on hitting them/if the head actually gives a damage boost at all? thanks!

[misty nova]

Accatran

Fire shotgun

[misty nova]

Something something
Gun culture

[stray summit]

The cool one

[misty nova]

ahem

the worst one

ahem

[ripe quest]

The cool one.

[misty nova]

cool one
Looks inside
Fire

You guys know fire is hot

Right?

The opposite of cool

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-squarepants-angry-ripping-gif-25651719

[ripe quest]

> Fire shotgun
> *looks inside*
> Not an ounce of swag

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-it-chubbyemu-gif-21977580

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hispullinhhiskokout-asu-memek-bangsat-gif-24915856

[violet hornet]

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-arrows-shoot-hit-gif-12968662

[violet hornet]

Mods have fallen, millions must mpreg post

[solar gorge]

pregnate

[delicate shadow]

don't do this to me, the agony of the slowmode still lingers

not that I suffered any of it

[hushed knoll]

[solar gorge]

the fruit

[hushed knoll]

What

[solar gorge]

pomrepregnate

[hushed knoll]

Are you smelling burnt toast

[solar gorge]

the fog

[hushed knoll]

What

[slate flower]

re-asking my question :(

[misty nova]

Aim for the head so you get backstab + weakspot bonuses

If you're not confident

Just go for the body

[delicate shadow]

you wanna hit back of the head if you can but otherwise just do ye olde backshots

[misty nova]

The Shroudfield should give enough damage to backstab kill

[ripe quest]

You get the backstab bonus if you hit the rear angle behind them, which is separate from the weakspot/crit system. You can do all of the above to stack a lot of damage. You'll need to mess around a lot with the weapon as you need to know where the hitbox is, as long as you hit the head you should be fine due to hitbox priority. Going for head hits worst case scenario still net a body hit, so may as well go for them.

[plush estuary]

@pliant ice

they grow

albert

[median steeple]

Albert cloning facility

[sturdy flare]

Hey guys I use heavy attacks on my combat axe a lot especially for armoured enemies. Should I then go with Brutal+Thrust instead of Brutal+Headtaker ?

[visual stream]

I don't use axes so take it with a grain of salt, but I would say no

[sturdy flare]

Oh ok 🙂

[visual stream]

Headtaker affects every attack, and when you stack it you just keep going

[sturdy flare]

Now THAT makes sense 🙂 Ty for the info 🙂

[visual stream]

Also instead of spending the time holding every heavy, you can light attack a couple of times

[sturdy flare]

Agreed. I only use heavy on armoured as I come out of slide 😛

"Making my way downtown sliding along as I hold crouch...."

[runic grotto]

no

Just heavy attack twice instead of waiting for thrust stacks

[sturdy flare]

I also slapped on Surgical+Handcannon on my Revolver. Good combo right ?

[runic grotto]

yes

[sturdy flare]

Got it. Ty.

[slate flower]

thank you!

[craggy jackal]

You also have the backstab talent on right

[gaunt roost]

do not

make it have longer range and more damage on swing

greatsword should not be attacking like a combat knife

[plush estuary]

@sullen forge

the bruiser that thought he could

[chrome wave]

my pov

[misty nova]

His running animation really sells the intention

[ripe quest]

That isn't always better to do. Thrust is pretty solid statistically.

[normal shell]

which relic sword mark yall use?

[ripe quest]

The better reason to not take it is that you'd need to drop a normal power blessing which hurts the light spam. Easy BM procs > a bit better heavy DPS. Though this falls apart on the Achlys, in which thrust is rather funny.

[ripe quest]

Mk II is pretty fun, both are going to be roughly the same just with a different combo rotation.

Uppercut heavy = maximum swag

[misty nova]

Mk10

Ingrained into my muscles

Can't play mk2 because of that

I also can't say their move set but I can feel it

In my bones

[runic grotto]

but probably not for combat axe

[craggy jackal]

mk 10 is prettier

[ripe quest]

I'm talking about combat axe.

[runic grotto]

I know

I just don't understand why ever take thrust on combat axe instead of just headtaker

[visual stream]

I understand why thrust for thammer since it scales great with damage boosts but I'm confused about caxe thrust too

[fossil crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332807857632051240/1392992642085945476/2025-07-10_21-51-42_-_Trim.mp4?ex=68718cfe&is=68703b7e&hm=f4f29052ddbc38c46f1a3452c265153208b88a5dbde1804d81eb7dc7bb056107&

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

@plush estuary @hard nexus

[void bison]

bug crunchy

[median steeple]

steam explode

glup

[solar gorge]

Can't have shit on my day off

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546727346355568652/1296950998295777300/giphy.gif

[solar gorge]

I'm warping out

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/jevil-sad-deltarune-gif-24247560

[sullen forge]

why is he sad

[median steeple]

no gambling

[solar gorge]

Give it back

my STEAM

[median steeple]

I might attempt knight again

Only shadow crystal fight I haven't won

[solar gorge]

i done it no mantle for cool line

[sullen forge]

@median steeple Gonna be you after Knight

[median steeple]

I didn't get the mantle on the fact I'm too paranoid

https://tenor.com/view/orb-orb-son-dan-hentschel-baby-head-gif-6977033234844292565

[sullen forge]

DONT LOOK AT SON ORB

DONT LOOK AT SON ORB

DONT LOOK AT SON ORB

[solar gorge]

steam is back bless the king

I can now resume looking at my library without launching a game

[tight fog]

im bullish on steam

[ocean stratus]

maybe im not a good impregnator

[rustic scaffold]

is there an optimal knife shroud setup or are some things preference?

or like.. solved

[hard nexus]

me

[craggy jackal]

Yeah you take the same talents every time on zealot

I assume you don’t know what those are

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1392548732997861497/image.png?ex=68714112&is=686fef92&hm=488ce076d6e35d55bc6be356b3e40e1c7d576c3c493b44bf85c5df40be21d031&

Just path to shroud

[rustic scaffold]

i do im not that new, just wanted to minmax my setup after a while, seeing some builds on that build website with no duelist and some with no keystone

probably gonna settle for momentum, should i p much always be on uncanny/riposte? the extra crit from riposte seems mid but everyone runs it

[misty nova]

Those builds with no duelist are straight up shit builds

[rustic scaffold]

and thanks for taking the time

[rustic scaffold]

figured, raised an eyebrow at that

when im double stabbing the riposte isnt ever doing shit so i figure swapping it for precog better? or am i not getting somethin

[craggy jackal]

Precog seems better than riposte

To pair with uncanny

[rustic scaffold]

and uncanny is not interchangeable

or can i stab crushers to death with anything else?

[misty nova]

If you were to use the Piety build

Riposte Precognition combo would go hard

[rustic scaffold]

i pmuch just lost an auric maelstrom while clutching and its because i ran into a wall of armor that i legit couldnt slide by or jump around in shroud no matter what and my normal revolver/purgatus setup doesnt do shit against those situations

and i refuse to play dueling sword until nerfs, it legit lobotomises me

[elder maple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/p5YHeqxRa9g?si=hfid1lZq9Nx4vM61

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[rustic bobcat]

knives still numero uno for zealot blitz?

[craggy jackal]

Yeah

[rustic bobcat]

Bet

[lofty python]

Thoughts?

[slate haven]

Yo would y’all take Fury Rising or Stalwart on Relic?

[craggy jackal]

Both are good

By fury rising I assume you mean righteous warrior

Cause you don’t take fury rising if you can’t afford righteous

[crimson mason]

Can some tryhard havoc 40 enjoyer in this chat share their talent tree and loadout?

[craggy jackal]

Use standard build with generally good weapons

Lotta people like relic

[low coyote]

MY REJECTS ARE ALL MORONS

[craggy jackal]

Flamer boltgun are the best ranged but you can do revolver or bistol

[jade rivet]

flamer boltgun? isnt that the weapon the legion of the damned use?

[lofty python]

Next one, thoughts?

[median steeple]

@sullen forge I did it

[lofty python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/750254913161920532/1393006634183430154/deltarune-kris.gif

[slate haven]

My super basic crusader zealot

I’m happy w it

[lofty python]

I like it

[rough galleon]

Between flail and shield and smaul and shield, I have full confidence that if they ever do a power sword and suppression shield it'll go hard

[hidden grove]

what's the verdict on eviscerator post buff, is it still dogshit?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-chapter-ch-3-ant-gif-2607143263589434306

[sullen forge]

Tenna if he locked the fuck in against The Roaring Knight

[rustic bobcat]

no clue on my end, but im bumping this so others see

[misty nova]

Evis15 was always goated

Nothing changed for it

Evis3 is actually usable now though

[hidden grove]

okay good to know, so it's still dogshit 👍

[misty nova]

Nuh uh

[rustic bobcat]

uhhhh crusher

crusher aight on zealot?

[misty nova]

Yeah

[sullen forge]

Doesn't even play it after the change

[hidden grove]

mid

[sullen forge]

"its still bad tho"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546727346355568652/1296950998295777300/giphy.gif

[misty nova]

Mains it for 15 years

"always goated"

[rustic bobcat]

bet

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-giga-chad-marvel-rivals-marvel-gif-6633069061005646380

[rustic bobcat]

uhhhhh
someone remind me the loops on crusher for both crowds and single target

[misty nova]

Heavy light for single

Light heavy for hordes

[rustic bobcat]

perks and blessings appreciated too i think i run like

[misty nova]

Throw a push attack there for single target as well

[rustic bobcat]

flak/maniac and skullcrusher/slaughterer

oh aight

[craggy jackal]

Crusher guide in pins

[rustic bobcat]

in my defense im a zealot you don't pay me to stop and think before talking

[hidden grove]

crusher is super good for hordes, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what's the logic behind making this thing bad vs crushers

[rustic bobcat]

thats what ill nab bistol for

and later bolter

[hidden grove]

can't stun them without special and does shit dmg

[rustic bobcat]

special action worth it for the extra dmg?

[hidden grove]

lol no what extra dmg

[misty nova]

Yes

[rustic bobcat]

lemme check

okay i think i might be dumb and didn't check what the spec did?

[hidden grove]

it probably does give some extra dmg but barely visible

[rustic bobcat]

i just saw the power up anim and was like "bet"

bonus stagger?

[hidden grove]

what it does that is visible is the stun

[rustic bobcat]

ok its the stun then

my idea is like

[hidden grove]

but honestly I don't even know if the charge time is worth that stun

[rustic bobcat]

run bolter or bistol with crusher for anti heavy stuff

and while im at it run thammer with flamer

[velvet orbit]

how do you get that helmet

[rustic bobcat]

i have knife for ranged specials

[hidden grove]

I put up with crusher with arbies because of that insane mechanics they can put skullcrusher in bosses

[ripe quest]

Mk XV got the better end of the deal, Mk III is still fairly disappointing but the XV is ok, not much different than prior. The buffs weren't really well thought beyond setting the default target to something above 0 on sweep lights.

[misty nova]

Just bonk then with crusher

Activate
Hit them (applies Skullcrusher twice)

[rustic bobcat]

somehow my crusher has 61 in defense instead of 60 and the other stats are 80

ah ok

[misty nova]

Then beat them down

(they are Skrushed)

Maximize Skullcrusher value

[ripe quest]

The stats can have a .5 decimal, but the values round up.

So sometimes you'll have a weapon with 60.5 in one stat and a 79.5 in another, both show as 61 and 80 respectively.

[rustic bobcat]

ahhh okay

weird, but close enough-ish

[visual stream]

Doggies leaping at you when they're not looking at you

[lament ruin]

crusher isn't bad against crushers what

[visual stream]

Perfectly timed flamer to murderize you while you're dogged

[misty nova]

Get Coordinated strike'd lol

[sullen forge]

@pliant ice

[lament ruin]

its adm isn't great vs carapace but you get fotf for that sweet melee rending

[hidden grove]

it's bad not just vs crushers, but maulers/ragers, on the virtue it doesn't stun them normally and do shit dmg

[lament ruin]

wha

are you

hitting their head

crusher is a finesse weapon funnily enough

[hidden grove]

yes, heavy to the head, on crushers, with the crusher, does not stun it

very funny

huge bonk stick

doesn't stun when bonking heads

[lament ruin]

it absolutely stuns maulers and ragers

[pliant ice]

I love Sprinkles. Thanks for the ping

[pure phoenix]

would ||burn in a fire||

[hidden grove]

compare this to like the relic where you just cut down an entire group of ragers down in like 2 cleaves, it's just bad

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[hidden grove]

now if its awesome light swaps also stunned elites, which should given how the weapon looks, it would be goated

[lament ruin]

crusher absolutely stuns all human sized elites

and the special stuns crushers/opens bulwark shields

[hidden grove]

yes, the special does actually stun crushers, and very good vs bulwark

but it does shit dmg vs crushers

so even if you spam the special on crushers to keep it stunned, it would take you ages to kill it

[pure phoenix]

i found an image of sprinkles

[lament ruin]

what combo are you using on crushers?

and yeah its adm against carapace is ~.5 so its not amazing into carapace

but that's what fotf 100% melee rending is for

[reef plaza]

What blessings should go on bolt pistol

[hidden grove]

the best combo now? I personally don't bother with the special and just heavy light

[lament ruin]

use the push attacks

[misty nova]

Get staggered lol

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-stick-bugged-bug-dancing-bug-dancing-gif-18059923

[hidden grove]

okay just tried, it semi staggers them with the swipping combos, you still come out of it bleeding all over

[spring fractal]

PA/L H L L L H L L L

[misty nova]

So you lied at first

Can't believe you lied to me

😭

Me of all people

My heart is broken

[hidden grove]

shush you

as for crushers, it's absolutely shit no matter the combo, 8-9 hits to kill one 😒

[lament ruin]

you have duelist right

[shut belfry]

Tbh its a good thing you arent forced to just melee/solo

[lament ruin]

I can't see how you're getting 8-9 hit kills on crushers

[north sedge]

there's a crusher guide in the pins that explains all

[shut belfry]

Plus its psky alot of the dmg buffs wont proc

[north sedge]

only difference is you'd take slaughterer skullcrusher for blessings, otherwise it's all accurate

[craggy jackal]

When did slaughter become better than hammerblow

[north sedge]

when it was put in the game

(crusher did not have this blessing until somehwhat recently)

[craggy jackal]

Hm

[hidden grove]

yes I have dualist, just put brittle blessing it's down to ~5 hits

[lament ruin]

are you testing in the meat grinder/psykanium?

[hushed knoll]

Stickbugs can’t dance

[visual stream]

Anyone else's frames horrific for seemingly no reason rn

[hushed knoll]

Hello leggy bird

[visual stream]

Hi Stan

[hidden grove]

yes

[lament ruin]

do you have the creature spawner mod so you can turn on enemy ai and proc buffs?

[north sedge]

you need push attack, just read the guide in the pins

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-gif-18910704

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-stick-bugged-bug-dancing-bug-dancing-gif-18059923

[misty nova]

I didn't watch the whole gif

💀

[north sedge]

dont worry im sure stan will love it

[velvet orbit]

chat how do i get that helmet

[hushed knoll]

STICKBUGS CAN’T DANCE

[velvet orbit]

also can someone explain this penance in monkey term

[hushed knoll]

Stick bugs can’t dance and I’m tired of everyone pretending they can

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/oingo-boingo-the-mystic-knights-of-the-oingo-boingo-boingo-danny-elfman-insects-gif-932794878477991027

[hushed knoll]

NO

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/godzill-music-lose-control-music-makes-you-lose-control-gif-21350626

[north sedge]

What is confusing

[velvet orbit]

the wording

[misty nova]

Be low health
Speedrun mission

🗣️

[velvet orbit]

extract with low health + speedrun

ok

[north sedge]

In private game

[velvet orbit]

how about that helmet

[misty nova]

You have to be low health for at least 15 minutes

[velvet orbit]

matyrdom is it

[misty nova]

It's easier with 2 wounds iirc

"Less than a wound's worth of health "

[visual stream]

Martyrdom it is not

Makes it much harder

[velvet orbit]

so i have to stay on a brink of death at all time

hmmm

[velvet orbit]

@misty nova do you know the helmet that guy was wearing

[misty nova]

It's premium cosmetic

[craggy jackal]

Only if you’re on martyrdom

If you do the regular 2 wounds you just need to be under half hp

[craggy jackal]

Nope you can do train

[misty nova]

I mean

75% of 10 minutes is

[craggy jackal]

Not 15

[misty nova]

7.5

[craggy jackal]

It sure is

[misty nova]

Can you beat twins in 5 minutes?

Or was it 7

[craggy jackal]

Can you even lower your health before the bell in twins

[velvet orbit]

i feel poor

[misty nova]

Eh don't worry about it

This slop shop ain't shit

[velvet orbit]

most of the heads make me look like a sadist

[burnt cloud]

the zealot is about that life

[velvet orbit]

but i'm not a sadist

:c

[misty nova]

You're a zealot

Either a hobo

Or a gimp

[velvet orbit]

i'll just use scion's helmet

[misty nova]

Or you just tape a sheet of paper over your face

That one is peak

[burnt cloud]

zealot is a meth head fr

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[craggy jackal]

Helmets that cover your eyes should black out your screen

[burnt cloud]

^

[velvet orbit]

zealot is equivalent to a berseker iirc

[visual stream]

Why is Darktide running so bad right now

[velvet orbit]

albeit same thing can be said to scier's gaze psykers

[velvet orbit]

i suggest mods that reduce texture even more

[misty nova]

Scriers is dex build
Zealot is strength

[velvet orbit]

(you cant see fence and glass from 5 meters)

[misty nova]

Monke mode

Bonk

Bonk

Bonk

[velvet orbit]

both required you to sell your brain

[visual stream]

My PC normally runs all of my settings fine and then some, is the thing

[velvet orbit]

does anyone here play on asia or hongkong server

just asking

dont throw stone at me

[burnt cloud]

NA here

[lament ruin]

i wish i got this cosmetic

[hard nexus]

@sullen forge @pliant ice GANDALF BIG NATURALS JUST DROPPED

HOLY PEAK

[pliant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-what-huh-confused-kitten-gif-16578675544592554435

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1374399585073627299/rekt.gif

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/you-made-those-words-up-soldier-boy-jensen-ackles-the-boys-blasphemy-gif-26043524

[hard nexus]

do you want to see gandalf big naturals

[jagged cradle]

yes…

[misty nova]

Eh
I'll pass

Gonna catch some zs

[visual stream]

Join a havoc match

Two ogryns are running identical rumblers and bully clubs

sigh

[hard nexus]

i am

bored,,

[jagged cradle]

perhaps you should stop being bored

[hard nexus]

perhaps you should embrace big naturals gandalf

im gonna go watch a show now

[jagged cradle]

i already did

and perhaps you should play with me at some point

[visual stream]

The dh rituals don't seem to activate on archivum sycorax for some reason

[hard nexus]

this is true

but

when

not rn because i am in bed

[jagged cradle]

i mean i’m free most of the just depends on you really

[plush estuary]

It's always pox bursters or bulwarks ending a run

Not even 3 bosses end runs as often as those enemies do

This is so annoying to do a solo

I keep rolling bulwark ambiance

Every horde 6 bulwarks

Just tried for 2 hours to solo havoc 40

[hard nexus]

bulwarks are my most hated enemy because zealot has no consistent solution outside of 1, maybe 2 weapons

[north sedge]

Embrace the crusher lifestyle

[plush estuary]

I hate how their ambiance spawn is tied to shotgunners too

Which stagger reset them with friendly fire

[hard nexus]

stuns can work but that’s 3 per grenade bin, and you’re only ever taking knives

[hard nexus]

real

i hate bulwarks !

[hard nexus]

alright

i’ll let u know

[plush estuary]

Like 2 plague ogryns with a armor horde that's fine

Then 1 pack of bulwarks and shotgunners causes more chaos

[jagged cradle]

sounds good

[visual stream]

arbites having the staying power that zealot does, the melee damage that zealot does, but ALSO having the solution on like any of their melee weapons for bulwarks

[jagged cradle]

do you play new havoc

[visual stream]

and dog, which opens bulwarks

any zealot rework hopers up rn

[north sedge]

Embrace the crusher lifestyle on zealot

[plush estuary]

I'm doing lone wolf taxe solo

[lament ruin]

after fatsharks summer vacation

[hard nexus]

meant to ping u with this

[visual stream]

DAMN!!!!!

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1284301038144196648/caption.gif

[ocean stratus]

whats that

[copper hawk]

[jagged cradle]

what’s your pfp now

[lofty python]

Ive been banished here

[ebon bobcat]

And here you stay

Stinky

[lofty python]

Says the rat

[ebon bobcat]

Says the giant name person uhhh

[lofty python]

Fat rat

[ebon bobcat]

Trans

[lofty python]

The fat rat

[ebon bobcat]

Yes giant name person trans

[lofty python]

Im not named trans fatty ratty

[copper hawk]

Kris tuah

[ebon bobcat]

Do you see this guy?

[jagged cradle]

who is kris

[ebon bobcat]

Cicas?

Yeah he weider than your

Believe me

[lofty python]

Guy

I see guy

[ebon bobcat]

Yes guy

[lofty python]

Guy midwinter minirs

[ebon bobcat]

Cicas guy

[lofty python]

Love him

[ebon bobcat]

I have no idea what you are talking about but okay

[copper hawk]

John deltarune (non binary)

[ebon bobcat]

See?

Totally a weirdo

That's why you should stay here

With him

[lofty python]

Fat ugly stinky rat

[ebon bobcat]

I am not ugly

Neither fat

[ebon bobcat]

So you speak lies

[jagged cradle]

oh ok i’ve never played deltarune or undertale

[copper hawk]

Deltarune is peak

U should play it

[lofty python]

I speak truths yes-yes

[jagged cradle]

how much is it

[ebon bobcat]

"Yes-tes"

[ebon bobcat]

2000 dollars to fire Deltarune

[ebon bobcat]

YTP on TikTok?

[jagged cradle]

i don’t have that kind of dosh lying around

[ebon bobcat]

Very strange

[lofty python]

The world is healing

[ebon bobcat]

The sun will burn earth in about 2 billion years, you know

[lofty python]

Im gonna cook you for dinner

[ebon bobcat]

[hallow trench]

BEHOLD

KHORNE

[ebon bobcat]

Dude you aren't the first one trying this

Surprisingly

[ebon bobcat]

Why corn

[lofty python]

You seems tasty with fried fish

[hallow trench]

it wasnt corn at all!

[hallow trench]

MWahahahahahaha!

[cinder steeple]

why do some people say mk 6 is better than mk 3 knife?

[lofty python]

Zealot fans belong in a padded room

[ebon bobcat]

I must request you to say whats the difference between moves

Of the two knifes

[craggy jackal]

mk 3 is H1 overhead

[cinder steeple]

heavies tend to be more AoE on mk 6

[hallow trench]

one prob better at single one better at aoe

[cinder steeple]

but the push block is a poke

[lofty python]

Bussing on the heretics with my flamer

[ebon bobcat]

Very informative

This was more informative than the both of you

[hallow trench]

in which case, its just playstyle

do you like to melee single targets or groups?

[ebon bobcat]

But one is meta

But the question is

Which one?

[hallow trench]

which one?

[ebon bobcat]

[hallow trench]

jynx

[long oasis]

neither are meta because its a kitchen knife

ez

[hallow trench]

I like weapons that can hit many

for crowd clear

and then ranged for big boys

[hearty nebula]

that's a funny way of saying "i like running heavy sword and boltgun"

[ebon bobcat]

Then why are you using a butter knife

[hallow trench]

right now its heavy sword and the las rifle

[ebon bobcat]

[hallow trench]

the one that shoots slow

I just started zealot recently

[hearty nebula]

Skin them

[hallow trench]

I'm a ogryn main normally

[hallow trench]

Lasrifle is the backbone of the imperium

how dare you insult it

[hearty nebula]

bc they stinky

[hallow trench]

tbh I'll prob use boltgun once I unlock it

love bolters

[long oasis]

boltgun takes several years to pull out

[hearty nebula]

throwing knife

[long oasis]

omg is that dante from metal gear rising

[hearty nebula]

yes

[long oasis]

I knew it

[golden flint]

I haven't found a good choice for carapace armor for zealot yet

I just kinda smack em with heavy eviscerator rev attacks till they die

[craggy jackal]

Fotf

[long oasis]

relic blade, crusher, taxe, caxe, dueling sword, chaxe, knife

If you know the combos any of these could handle carapace relatively well

[golden flint]

Will keep that in mind

[long oasis]

or you could shoot them with a gun

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-1105617598331461830

[golden flint]

Weird thing to see from you here

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/when-you-outside-and-smell-that-freedom-freedom-leitmotif-freedom-motif-deltarune-secret-boss-gif-11009151628751802311