#zealot-class

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mighty root
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I feel he’s here at this moment

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Hai Cole

hard nexus
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gaaalooorrrp

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i yearn for the factory

violet hornet
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Tbf typically if your team gets wiped and you don't, that was the hardest part of the match and clearing it alone isn't much different than a full solo run

mighty root
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Meow

cinder steeple
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I’m literally loading into the mission alone

violet hornet
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But yes it does rely more diligence since you cannot rely on teammates to save you from the funny net/ dog / burster spawn

mighty root
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Wanna duo wif me when I’m off?

violet hornet
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In some ways it's legitimately more difficult to play with a team though, can't have a teammate drag an overhead into you or barrel you solo

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Generally having them will be advantageous though

cinder steeple
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I’m not gonna play with other people and call it more challenging, that’s so mean

violet hornet
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Unless it's smykers 😬

cinder steeple
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Literally smyker only hurts zealot and veteran

violet hornet
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It's not like they're deliberately throwing or necessarily bad, it's just a consequence of how the melee targeting in the game works

cinder steeple
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It just makes it boring for everyone

violet hornet
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I never play solo because I like playing with others

cinder steeple
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Nice, good for you

sullen forge
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Arbitrator Dodge = damage

violet hornet
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Having the voidblast psyker pop the burster you're trying to push is still a legitimate issue though haha

cinder steeple
sullen forge
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Ogryn Payback time

cinder steeple
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Does hurt arbitrator a lot

sullen forge
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Yeah every class except psyker

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Gets hurt from it

cinder steeple
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I don’t see a lot of ogryns with payback though

sullen forge
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It’s uptime is nearly always lmao

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Get hit or dodge

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And it’s active

violet hornet
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Or having my teammates wipe all the elites that could have been throwing knife ammo lol

cinder steeple
violet hornet
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It is if you have a flamer

craggy jackal
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Steal their ammo crates

violet hornet
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Stolen ammo is the most delicious

cinder steeple
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I mean you must be burning through knives really fast if you get to 0

violet hornet
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Yes I cannot aim so I'm throwing like four to kill a sniper

cinder steeple
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TwT

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I was gonna guess you were gonna say the enemies were pus hardened

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Also the knife for flamer is nice but I don’t think it’s too crazy

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You don’t always need it

violet hornet
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Haha that would do it too, it throws me off hard when I hit a trapper or sniper and it doesn't die from one knife

mighty root
cinder steeple
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Just put it on YouTube

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And get complaints if you don’t exhaust every horde with a grey devils claw

mighty root
violet hornet
misty nova
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But isn't Arby's whole gimmick stagger
Why's smyker getting flak

south prism
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god i had a rank 200 player just now who wouldn't get in the damn airlock because he felt like he had to kill every single straggler

misty nova
royal vortex
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before that you would always kill them regardless of where you hit

mighty root
lament ruin
cinder steeple
violet hornet
south prism
cinder steeple
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I meant knife teching the flamer out

violet hornet
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Ahh I mean knife for far targets, not even considering the quick draw tech

south prism
violet hornet
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The tech isn't a necessity for sure

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Nice qol tho

cinder steeple
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Anyways, still think it’s not a problem if your teammates are killing all of the elites

mighty root
south prism
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😔

mighty root
lament ruin
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not even an attempt to dodge?

mighty root
south prism
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might have exhausted his dodges

mighty root
cinder steeple
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Y’know what’s great to bring smykers and book spam zealots into?

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Red

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It’s funny as fuck

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They’re smiting and all of a sudden the horde stops caring

mighty root
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Cranial and red are my least favorite modifers

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And rampaging

cinder steeple
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Cranial??????

mighty root
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And healing

cinder steeple
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Whaaaat

south prism
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i played lights out for the first time in a while the other night and it was insane

cinder steeple
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I like pox gas

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Purple is nice as well

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Red too

violet hornet
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The fuck is red

south prism
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red kool-aid

cinder steeple
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Purple rituals is kinda cool because they can heal the ritualists

south prism
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zealots hate that shit

mighty root
cinder steeple
violet hornet
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Oh the angry havoc buff lol

cinder steeple
mighty root
cinder steeple
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Just usually it can’t be noticed

mighty root
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Oopsies

cinder steeple
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So I don’t think it’s a big deal

mighty root
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Only when playing psyker it is for me lol

sullen forge
mighty root
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The more you know

sullen forge
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thats if Toll isn't in play

cinder steeple
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Mmmm red

mighty root
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I thought they couldn’t be staggered at all

sullen forge
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It would effect trash shooters though

cinder steeple
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Red crushers can instakill ogryns right?

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Or insta down I meant

sullen forge
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They instant kill everything iirc on high havoc

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just dont get hit by a crusher in havoc besides its easy to avoid it

cinder steeple
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No, ogryn can take an overhead iirc

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I will test

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One minute

mighty root
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Was clutching and I opened a room to bulwarks and crushers while getting chased by them as well and died

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Was rampaging and healing

cinder steeple
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Purple is fun imo

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Purple captains are fun

mighty root
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Tanker healing enemies

cinder steeple
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Red sword captains are cool too

mighty root
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It’s not a big deal

sullen forge
cinder steeple
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No but it is fun

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It makes it more difficult

cinder steeple
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Same with purple captains

mighty root
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True

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They’re pretty easy

pale spindle
cinder steeple
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Purple captains are literally one of the hardest parts of havoc

median steeple
cinder steeple
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Idk why you’re saying they are very easy

strong gyro
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what are the best perks for the relic sword?

misty nova
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Flak Elites

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Iirc

strong gyro
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should i get Cranial Grounding and rampage?

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i pair it with a revolver

violet hornet
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Yeah those work great on it

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Revolver a solid pairing

craggy jackal
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That’s the standard

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Can sub in wrath for havoc

strong gyro
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nice nice

full nebula
fathom fractal
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Strange question, but hopefully the braintrust here can help me.
I am a simple guy, and I enjoy spamming light attacks. Is there a Zealot build that can do all content, that uses light attack spam?
Bonus if using an Evicerator or Chainsword or something.
Thanks in advance for any and all help you guys can give me!!

misty nova
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Chainswords and Eviscerators will have to use the rev attack every now and then but yes

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Shred Perfect Strike on both eviscerator

obsidian prairie
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Not really

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Because all content includes havoc

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And you are not light spamming through havoc

misty nova
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With the mk15 you just spam lights to your hearts content

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Then there's the Chainsword Xiiig

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With Shred Wrath you just spam lights

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Then there's the Rashad Combat Axe
You use lights on anything that isn't an Ogryn

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Then the Relic Blade mk10
You just light spam hordes

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But anything bigger and you might need the combos

south prism
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another viable option is push attack, light attack, then heavy

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spamming light attacks is fine but at higher difficulties you might need to experiment with different combos for better results!

craggy jackal
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Well if you are new

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You aren’t going to be doing all content in the game

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At your level you can light spam with whatever you want

misty nova
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Oh
There's also Heavy Sword 6 and 7

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Hsword 9 likes the heavies more

south prism
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what's the hs word

misty nova
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Heavy Sword

south prism
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see what i did there

misty nova
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It's the Messer

south prism
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hsword hs word

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i got the biggest giggle in the whole world from that idc

misty nova
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Btw

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The light attack that follows the heavy sword special

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Uses the "back" of the sword

solar gorge
south prism
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do you pronounce sword like sword or sword

median steeple
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Robinswords mentioned ! ! ! !

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I used to love watching Open Season while growing up

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I should give it a watch through to rot my brain

median steeple
south prism
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i remember they made like three sequels or something

solar gorge
median steeple
misty nova
solar gorge
median steeple
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that was the charm of the first one but at a certain point it wears thin

solar gorge
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I don't think I trust my 12 years old self when it come to movie reviews

fathom fractal
fathom fractal
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Have a goal, something to work towards

craggy jackal
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This is what is referred to as the build

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Use this

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Works with any weapon you like just don’t build crit on weapons that are bad with crit

fathom fractal
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Thanks so much ❤️

runic grotto
violet hornet
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Need to get that shape tattooed on me sometime lol

void bison
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I need a frog tattoo

misty nova
void bison
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abelard bully this guy till he cries and pisses

violet hornet
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"oh cool is that a caffeine molecule?"
"Nah it's a molecule of fanaticism"

ripe quest
median steeple
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the only bad part of the new DH game is the lack of Abelard

forest nymph
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How's crusher maul on zelot? Is it worth trying to level and build one?

craggy jackal
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Very good

forest nymph
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I remember hearing it was kinda bad vs armored/single targets but that was a WHILE ago

north sedge
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Was only bad year 1, it got a rework

void bison
median steeple
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dont need fish wife

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have kroot wife

void bison
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fish wife...

real frigate
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How does perfect strike work with the eviscerator special locking on

plush estuary
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cor

obsidian prairie
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Give it a little rocket fuel as a treat

visual stream
median steeple
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lober mobile

lime rover
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I have a fowkin rock

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Your argument, is invalid

plush estuary
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yuppers

lime rover
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Chat, when can I do a auric storm with this new mission system?

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I'm at mission XI

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And it won't stop

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I cant stop

plush estuary
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Idk

lime rover
plush estuary
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I skipped the difficulty leveling thing and am only doing havocs

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uhhhhh

lime rover
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I'm genuinely going insane

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All of the missions are on uprising

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It's not even difficult, im power tripping

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How do I unlock maelstrom missions

hard nexus
plush estuary
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have to be at auric level

lime rover
plush estuary
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beat 10 damnation missions

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then you get auric

median steeple
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doing the campaign mission and doing the highest diff you have everytime should get you to almost damnation if you're doing the new diff leveling

sullen forge
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10 of each difficulty iirc

lime rover
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What

plush estuary
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@sullen forge

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the red is pollution

median steeple
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i love pollution

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yummers

plush estuary
sullen forge
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Uprising -> Malice -> Heresy -> Damnation -> Auric (10 missions unlock the next tier)

median steeple
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I don't think it's 10 missions

sullen forge
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istfg its 10

lime rover
sullen forge
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around there at least

median steeple
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istg I did more than 10 damns without losing and didn't get auric

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it's weird

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it should just be a counter instead of a bar

sullen forge
lime rover
sullen forge
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you fail any?

lament ruin
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it shouldn't be 10 missions per difficulty tier

sullen forge
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cause if you did it doesn't count

lament ruin
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I got to damnation by the end of the campaign

lime rover
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I'm level 30

median steeple
lime rover
median steeple
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understandable

sullen forge
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Okay that sounds horrible

plush estuary
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The base is Chicago

sullen forge
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(Referencing the horrible pollution in the lakes)

lime rover
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But yeah, uhm the compagne just locks you on uprising?

lament ruin
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it doesnt

median steeple
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yeah it doesn't

sullen forge
lime rover
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Then why the hell am I still on uprising

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I failed 0 missions

median steeple
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I can't know unless I see the mission board

lime rover
sullen forge
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mess with the arrows

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median steeple
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Sadly I lack the ability to reach through the screen

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I wanted to see the bar/your diff selector

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but in reality it should've been a counter instead of a weird ass bar

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had this problem with other games as well where you can't tell wtf is going on

lime rover
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I honestly thought beating the main "story" will like, unlock missions at different difficulty

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So I only did the main missions

median steeple
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nah you gotta do the subsequent diffs to level up

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so uprising then malice then heresy

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so on and so on

lime rover
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Does it have to be in a single sesh?

lament ruin
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nope'

lime rover
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Then I honestly don't know why it doesn't count

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Unless the main missions don't count and only random ones do?

lament ruin
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also nope...

violet hornet
plush estuary
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F

lime rover
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Alright I'm gonna have to check my game today then

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I'm gonna rest now

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Khorne demands I do

violet hornet
median steeple
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Schleepy time

worldly agate
violet hornet
worldly agate
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oh it's about cities being polluted and disgusting

violet hornet
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yeah factorio is all about trying not to alert the stink police

south prism
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grosth

misty nova
light badge
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Havoc 20-30 truly is matchmaking hell

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Tried US and EU: have not gotten a competent team yet

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Maybe the occasional good player, but we'll still have a couple low level cops that rage quit on first down

ripe quest
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The classic heresy effect.

void bison
lapis cave
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have any relic blade skins been released? Seems a miss not to have any for such a popular weapon

median steeple
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we have 2

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the snowhound and mastery skin

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nvm lmao

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I got the FGS mixed with relic

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relic has one lmao

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just mastery

bitter anvil
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I wondering are people still suck at this game?

ripe quest
median steeple
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that's the beauty of it really

bitter anvil
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Am going to Vermintide then

rough galleon
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Play a QP legend

void bison
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people are still suck everywhere

grizzled aspen
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They NEED to give us a skin for rb, it's criminal that it goes unnoticed like this despite its pickrate.

median steeple
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honestly surprised we didn't get one with the Inquisition sets

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the crusher one is cool just wish it was a relic blade

craggy jackal
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Give a rb skin that makes mk 2 not ugly and then it might be usable

median steeple
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truth nuke..

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the only reason I don't use the 2

craggy jackal
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Same

median steeple
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it look likes ass

craggy jackal
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Or make a third mark with a more interesting moveset than mk 10

worldly agate
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cohesive gamers

visual stream
grizzled aspen
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Lose your blitz and your gun in exchange for unbelievable buffs.

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:)

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(You get to path however you want without a blitz factoring into it)

visual stream
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Or the blitz is converted into one of a few buffs, depending on which one you pick

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I'm perconally not a fan of pulling a slayer move since this game is a lot more ranged-intensive

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But the idea is neat

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Someone in arby's chat was saying that unless you pick Lone Wolf, you shouldn't have a ranged weapon since you have dog

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That warrants execution methinks

craggy jackal
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The dog when I have to shoot 3 enemies in quick succession

gleaming siren
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Hello. I'm trying to see if i can do a martyrdom build. this confuses me. it says up to 7 missing wounds, but you can only have 7 max it seems. Am I missing something? Does your last wound count even if you have 1 hp left or if that last wound is corrupted are you able to survive that

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craggy jackal
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You can have 8 wounds in malice and below

gleaming siren
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Crap, okay, you lose some as you go up. that's right

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Alright, thank you.

visual stream
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Wrong reply oops

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@gleaming siren

gleaming siren
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I was hoping there was a secret wound laying around somewhere or you could actually get more than +1 on curious

visual stream
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Nah, martyrdom's max wounds are plenty anyhow

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And any non-martyrdom build, you wanna run toughness curios

misty mason
real frigate
misty mason
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One of the better ranged builds explicitly uses dog

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Since you can get so many self buffs via dog

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Im not sure if forced latch is accurate

visual stream
misty mason
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I remember aaaages ago, I did a test on an evisc

visual stream
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Also while we're talking about it, have another Arby's take

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This time from ogryn chat

misty mason
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Where I wondered why it wasnt latching to scab gunnners. Eventually I got it to latch by getting one with a cleave value of like less than 20

visual stream
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Truly the pinnacle of intelligence

misty nova
visual stream
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bleed dog made the class playable guys

misty nova
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I've been saying that the class is mid from the start

misty mason
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Look I like Lone Wolf and have been running it myself

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But dog goes well with any build

misty nova
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And the only good thing about Arbites is the dog

visual stream
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Yeah

misty nova
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Because he's a good boy

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Who's the murder machine

visual stream
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To dan, not you Higui

misty nova
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Yeah that's you

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Oh how cute

misty mason
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Honestly, I think the dog shared TDR node is one of the strongest talents in the game

misty nova
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This but Arbites and cyber mastiff

tame sluice
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you simply must engage with the tomfoolery

misty mason
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It's what, 20% shared TDR on pounce kill, so basically permanent

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For a non restricted talent

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Crazy good

misty nova
acoustic dune
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chat

craggy jackal
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Breadstick jumpscare

acoustic dune
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is this

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fake?

misty mason
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Pretty sure thats an old gif so probably not

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Real dog

acoustic dune
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remind me a trace work i did of someone dog here

tame sluice
acoustic dune
visual stream
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I like that

acoustic dune
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chat

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is this real

craggy jackal
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But I’m sure it’s fine

tame sluice
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mmmm define annoying

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because I mained Aramusha

misty mason
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I think he just wants something

craggy jackal
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Terminally stupid kinda annoying

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But like

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Unaware of it

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Idc who you played all the chars suck actually

tame sluice
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no I was not dumb about FH

misty mason
tame sluice
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Medjay was the character that ended up getting me to quit that game for good because he made playing 4v4s unbearable

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And all the other game modes were ass so

craggy jackal
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What other game modes lmao

tame sluice
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brawls are bad because of the community, duels are bad because characters aren't designed for 1v1, breach is...well breach

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tribute is cool

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but it's dead

craggy jackal
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Yeah the brawl tourney admins got quite a few complaints about the 2v2 mode not being 2 separate 1v1s

acoustic dune
craggy jackal
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But that happens all the time

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Shit game hope it dies but wu lin char at the end of this year wooo

acoustic dune
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chat i am shedding help

misty mason
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gross

reef plaza
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Blessings for mk3 eviscerator

misty mason
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Which one is that

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Square or round head

craggy jackal
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Perfect strike shred or rampage sweep

reef plaza
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The green one

misty mason
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Yeah rampage SS

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Thats the orthodox build

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The square head is a bit more build dependant

reef plaza
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And perks?

misty mason
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Flakiac

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That might have changed since I ran it in earnest tho

reef plaza
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Flakiac

misty mason
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Fricative diction baybee

mighty root
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Dis der gameplay

misty mason
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Stop making it look cool, Im already playing Arby

mighty root
hard nexus
worldly agate
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my favorite fighting game fr

royal vortex
misty mason
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ew josho

misty nova
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@mighty root the game pass method works

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I got all my lovely progress

royal vortex
misty nova
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Time to eat shit as I adapt to new controls

misty mason
craggy jackal
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Holy shit welcome to mnk

misty nova
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Nuh uh

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(my controller is malfunctioning as well)

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Gotta spec my sensibility

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😭

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Sensitivity

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Whatever the name

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Hate this part

fluid rapids
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so perks like riposte and precog, does it only count for the first attack after the dodge in the time frame or all attacks in the time frame

misty nova
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All attacks in the time frame

fluid rapids
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so lets say riposte has +20% crit chance after dodge for 6 seconds will all my attacks have +20% crit for 6 seconds or just the first attack after my dodge

fluid rapids
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ok thats a lot better than i thought

craggy jackal
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Yeah any buff with a time limit has those buffs active for the entire time

misty nova
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Now let's see how my precision firing fares on mouse

craggy jackal
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Like duelist

misty nova
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picks twin linked ogryn

misty mason
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I think I bullied Josho out of the chat

misty nova
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My loadouts are gone

misty mason
gleaming siren
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Shield of contempt will only proc once for whoever is hit first right?

misty nova
cinder steeple
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im considering using shock maul for the fastest weapon that has skull crusher (w/ flamer on zealot)

misty nova
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One of the best parts about being a Gunlugger is that I get ammo priority

misty mason
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Me running bolter arby: lol, lmao even

misty nova
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Bro out here griefing

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Smh

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I need more boolets

ripe quest
misty nova
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🗣️

misty nova
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Has second wind

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Duelist

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And iod

misty mason
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Mang, I dont think there is anything as killy as a bolter arby rn

misty nova
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Solid build overall

misty nova
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I got 200 boolets

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Mine goes brrrrrer

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Yours go brrr

misty mason
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mine goes boomerer

ripe quest
# misty nova Eh

The desire for a zealot anti-shooter sustainability build drives some to facets that some would find unnatural.

misty mason
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This is why I dont run flamer

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Shooter mooks be killin

misty nova
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😭

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What is that node under Fellowship Fortitude doing

mighty root
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Also I play on controller lol

misty nova
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Could've gone Good Balance no

visual stream
misty mason
visual stream
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Why the multiple stat nodes specifically

misty mason
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Who is she

hard nexus
visual stream
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I forget which ones they are, is that just toughness?

misty nova
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It's probably just toughness

ripe quest
misty mason
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I love that they've taken that rather than Fury lol

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Ive run TDR builds in high Havocs before and it worked well

ripe quest
misty mason
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The extra crit would still help with CDR

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But I guess it depends on the weapon

craggy jackal
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You are thinking of piety

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And not fury

misty mason
ripe quest
misty mason
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People should just call it charge

ripe quest
visual stream
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Back in my day it was chastise

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Should've stayed that way

misty mason
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Yes but Fury is a better descriptor of Fury than Fury of the Faithful

uneven galleon
sand trail
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I think I finally understand why ppl say anything goes in havoc

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it used to be a "hard" difficulty for me but now it's almost shitposty

misty nova
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Yah

celest crater
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I tried a build and couldn’t stay alive at all

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I don’t like the throwing knife

misty nova
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Some people also state that Ogryn and Arby's tree were made with Havoc in mind

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Which I don't really understand

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Because what would be the point of havoc then

celest crater
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People say the growing knife build is the best one for survival

craggy jackal
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You don’t have to like throwing knives but you do have to like the talents before it

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Yeah they don’t say that because of throwing knives

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They say it because the two talents before throwing knives are very good

misty mason
celest crater
#

Well I choose all the traits and I’m still getting killed fast damnation

misty mason
#

Knife is one of those things you just kind of have to get used to

#

It feels garbage until you get the hang of it

#

You also get bigger bang for you buck if you use it with something like a flamer or bolter

craggy jackal
#

Dying in damnation is more of a fundamentals issue than a build issue

celest crater
#

I’m trying to to get my Zelot to a point where I don’t die

craggy jackal
#

You need to pay attention to how you’re positioned

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And dodge a lot

#

Zealot is very hard to kill

misty mason
#

For knives you need to be hitting the head consistently to really see the value

#

It kills basically anything that isnt a mauler/ogryn/mutie if you get them in the head

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Plus it refunds the knife on a HS special kill

copper hawk
#

Weeeeell

celest crater
#

Ig it’s a skill issue

copper hawk
#

Not entirely

craggy jackal
#

As long as you take the important talents for survival - second wind, until death, holy revenant, the rest is your gameplay

copper hawk
#

If you play a bad build on zealot you'll 100% feel it

misty mason
#

It can also depend on your loadout

copper hawk
#

Moreso than the other classes

misty mason
#

Like running thammer without TWBS

copper hawk
#

Miss a few key talents and you seriously handicap yourself

craggy jackal
#

Yeah

copper hawk
#

Which can make a low skilled player die a ton

celest crater
#

It’s probably cause I like the relic sword

craggy jackal
#

Just to be sure your talents look something like this yeah

copper hawk
#

It's not anyone's fault but the devs

craggy jackal
#

Relic sword is one of zealots best weapons

#

Like super strong

misty mason
#

Yeah before I got gud at zealot I thought it was the worst class

median steeple
misty mason
#

Then I got gud

celest crater
craggy jackal
#

Then it is unfortunately a gameplay issue

#

Need to dodge to proc your buffs

#

Need to pay attention to how you position

copper hawk
#

I know i know disdain

visual stream
#

I feel like top left talents are usable with martyrdom and that's probably their intended use

misty mason
#

I dont use relic blade, so Im not sure if its a TWBS weapon

copper hawk
#

It helps hit 1 shot hit points on elites every other swing

visual stream
#

Never tried tho

copper hawk
#

It was tested

misty mason
#

I imagine it probably helps?

craggy jackal
copper hawk
#

It's a twbs weapon on the 2

craggy jackal
#

It’s like one of 3 that can

copper hawk
#

On the 10 it's not

visual stream
copper hawk
#

The 10 is mindless left click adventure

visual stream
#

I tried to sub TWBS for Punishment on RB and it felt bad

copper hawk
#

It's the w+m1 of darktide

misty mason
#

Yeah for someone who is getting used to Zealot, running TWBS could be good, although on the flipside it might teach you bad habits

craggy jackal
#

Why would you ever take punishment if you didn’t have to lol

copper hawk
#

Yes

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For sure

craggy jackal
#

And mk x rb doesnt need twbs

copper hawk
#

Twbs will be a great tool for a new player

carmine falcon
copper hawk
#

Just take it

misty mason
#

TWBS is Thy Wrath Be Swift by the way, talent on the right mid section

copper hawk
#

It really doesnt form bad habits other than being used to having it

misty mason
#

If youre running relic, probably just take it

copper hawk
#

But the benefit to a new player is tremendous

misty mason
carmine falcon
#

if you're running any weapon just take it gigaxi

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twbs is what makes zealot, zealot

copper hawk
#

It makes you a less shitty veteran into an actual melee character

#

It changes your mindset as a new player to be aggressive

misty mason
#

Nah you dont need it on most weapons

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Rashad doesnt for sure

carmine falcon
#

i like not getting stunned

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so i always take it

misty mason
#

Simply dont get stunned

copper hawk
#

Since you're still being punished for getting hit, but not so punished that it totally kills your momentum and you learn to RUN from shooters and melee chaff

median steeple
#

I love face tanking

copper hawk
#

You need to run TOWARDS these enemies

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Headlong with reckless abandon

carmine falcon
misty mason
#

Run from shooters? You mean push F to charge right?

copper hawk
#

Twbs lets you do this

#

No more stagger from shooters or gunners

#

Or shotgunners

#

Or reapers awh man

misty mason
#

YE SHALL
FALLLLL

carmine falcon
#

za emperor demands u die

misty mason
#

CLARTY HEAD
DONT TAKE ALL THE AMMUNITION

visual stream
#

It is not an amazing build for sure

craggy jackal
#

Yeah that’s fine

#

Like you take punishment because it’s on the way to piety

#

But like if you’re not running piety you don’t do that

cerulean moth
#

Marty is for the testosterone filled player

#

Anything else for noobs

dusky nexus
#

Could I get some help doing the Just a Flesh Wound penance?

craggy jackal
visual stream
#

Thy Punishment be Sometimes

misty nova
#

Am I about to waste 40 money for mid ass class just for testing

median steeple
#

whua

misty nova
#

Regional Pricing

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It's like

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10 above VT2 dlc class

median steeple
cerulean moth
craggy jackal
#

I could never hate you

cerulean moth
#

I’ll have you all know I was running that shit pre talent tree

misty mason
#

I remember running single charge chastise

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And Josho being real mad at me

south prism
#

huh mortis trials is super fun

#

like a very short and streamlined chaos wastes

misty mason
#

Idk i feel like it has a steeper fun drop off than CW

south prism
#

i definitely wish the map was bigger

#

and being able to travel to different areas like in chaos wastes would be peak

misty mason
#

Yeah agreed

#

CW has a bit more agency in build I feel like

ripe quest
misty mason
#

ftfy

hollow horizon
#

Or is it just light spam

ornate bone
#

what are the best blessings for heavy eviscerator

misty nova
#

Shred Perfect Strike

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Shred Rampage

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Sweep Rampage

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Bloodthirsty Rampage (Evis15)

ornate bone
#

why is the heavy evisc so mid

craggy jackal
#

It’s pretty good post buff

misty nova
craggy jackal
#

The mk 3 is the weird one you need to learn combos for

misty nova
craggy jackal
#

Try 15

ornate bone
misty nova
#

Anything important that needs to die

#

Bonus points for using chastise tech

ripe quest
ornate bone
#

fatshark?

misty mason
#

TBH I think chain weapons are just kind of fundamentally always going to be weird

#

The latching is thematic, but in a game as fast paced as DT, it's almost never gonna be optimal

#

I kind of think chain weapons should have basically used the relic blade mechanic instead

#

Non powered mode and a powered mode that increases damage and cleave but no latching

#

Wouldnt feel right though

#

Not having the latching that is

ornate bone
#

also the swingspeed on the heavy feels terrible compared to all the other weapons

north sedge
#

whispers in chain axe

visual stream
#

Progressively more and more damage

full nebula
visual stream
#

Bosses all have AoE attacks so it's not like that's super OP and you could combo staggers to support a teammate or yourself doing it

misty mason
#

Yeah its yet another reason that I think this game needs more nerfs that buffs

full nebula
misty mason
#

Cause buffs mean buffing enemies or increasing enemies

#

And that messes with balance in weird ways

#

Like making chain weapons less viable

visual stream
#

fatshark loves creeps with power..

misty mason
#

Because more enemies means latching more, means standing still more, means taking more damage

visual stream
#

Do NOT show a psyker the toughness buffet of Arby's tree top

misty mason
#

TBH I think Vet is the worst offender for toughness gen

#

As in its bad

visual stream
#

I honestly feel like they have better toughness gen than Psyker

#

Confirmed Kill is definitely one of the best tgen talents in the game

misty mason
#

I think psyker has easier to trigger, consistent gen but less chunky gen

visual stream
#

Exhil Takedown isn't for every build but it's quite nice, especially in tandem with CK

#

WS has a nice toughness gen upgrade that I like

#

Psyker's tgen is great when they use their ability

#

Or if they use assail, lmao

#

But every other class has pretty consistent replenishment, even if some are weird

ornate bone
#

the swing speed on the heavy is so fucking annoying omg

gaunt roost
#

what blessings on the heavy melta

visual stream
#

showstopper penetrating flames

#

showstopper has an interaction with pen flames atm that makes it ridiculous

ornate bone
#

pls for the love of god increase the swing speed of the heavy evis

#

i am trying so hard to like this weapon

misty nova
#

Martyrdom

copper hawk
#

IoD and chastise

#

Inexorable Judgement

#

Swift slaying

ornate bone
#

the heavy on a celerity stimm feels it what its swing speed should be

visual stream
#

Why do enemies sometimes not lose collision when they get knocked into you while you're at a wall

#

Such a horrific thing to happen is one poxwalker's ten second get-up animation grabbing you by the balls and pinning you in place because the forty guys around you are blocking you from hitting him and hitting you

ornate bone
copper hawk
#

Yaaaawners

sterile basalt
visual stream
#

Agree

#

Which is why it's not for every build

#

But the ones that use it, work with it pretty well

cinder steeple
#

what do i run for thammer?

acoustic dune
#

chat

#

what if i turn into a worm

drifting wolf
#

i put you in dirt

acoustic dune
#

what if i puleed this move

#

to tell you i wont wanna be in the dirt

misty nova
#

Would you love me

#

If I was a worm

acoustic dune
misty nova
ornate bone
#

Tiberius

image.png
acoustic dune
#

dats not a worm

median steeple
#

I really do not like the mask without the helmet

#

It looks so weird

velvet orbit
#

shroudfield or fury of the faithful for eviscerator, relic blade and thunder hammer respectively ?

ornate bone
#

in lower diffs you can use shroud and thunder hammer to one shot mons

#

with a certain build

#

i love to meme with it

#

fury for RB and Evi is great

craggy jackal
#

Fotf is generally the better skill

#

Stealth is just to set up one shots on bosses

velvet orbit
#

so hammer for shroud ?

craggy jackal
#

Yes

median steeple
#

Yeah you can run anything outside of havocs but fury is just good for all things

velvet orbit
#

what's the best blitz then

ornate bone
#

you can impress newer players by going into a malice and obliterating a daemon host

median steeple
ornate bone
#

with a single hit

#

i have a video somewher eof me bonking a chaos spawn

median steeple
#

I don't have the picture of The Build™️

velvet orbit
#

too impatient for that

median steeple
#

But it's like the best general use/guide for zealots most useful build arm

craggy jackal
#

Throwing knives because they talents before it are the best talents

ornate bone
#

lemme get the one shot build on latern for ye

#

also finding a video of it

ornate bone
#

your ranged should be a CC and you could probably change your curios to toughness

#

YOU WANT to run quickly and burn through your stamina

#

more damage

lean fern
ornate bone
#

you could also do matyrdom and buncha wounds if you really wanna max out your damage

#

but thats harder than just running for damage

#

unforutnately i have never used zealot in havoc 40

#

so i dont got a actually good build

#

plenty out there tho

velvet orbit
ornate bone
#

eh

#

flame ris really good

#

i forgot to clip the video so im haviong to edit it and its taking forever to upload

#

here we go

#

The build in this video is like

#

Shit compared to the one I made in latern

#

Thats without thrust

#

And a shit hammer

velvet orbit
#

dam

#

okay

ornate bone
#

But it is also malice

#

So it might hold up in heresy and Damnation

#

Dunno about auric

craggy jackal
#

Auric is damnation with hi intensity modifier

#

It’ll still do damage to bosses

ornate bone
#

Ah alright

#

Didnt know if they changed anything

#

Cause dont read update notes

#

The build overall is something I have used unchanged for like 2 years

#

So might be improveable

cinder steeple
#

I feel like zealot would be best for like havoc 200 lol

#

B/c 4 person chorus chain

lost pumice
#

Does anyone know the combo for single target mk 7 taxe?

craggy jackal
#

Light spam

#

Unironically

grave cypress
craggy jackal
#

Cause flamer is good

grave cypress
#

Oh so not flame resistance as I read it

#

He meant to say flamer is

#

Ha ha

craggy jackal
#

Yeah spacebar error lmao

hard nexus
#

in damnation

#

you just won’t reach one shots without a specific build and luck

young sparrow
#

I need too make a thammer build soon

velvet orbit
#

what's better ? beacon of purity or loner

mild sparrow
#

Loner is dogshit

velvet orbit
mild sparrow
#

Basically always benediction unless you're saving talent points or that one scenario I mentioned earlier

north relic
#

anyone has a combat blade stealth build that can keep up with other builds? specifically endgame?

inner cargo
#

Fellas, does anyone have a havoc zealot build on their hands?

velvet orbit
#

i

#

spent 300k

#

trying to get a stat dumped evis

#

i did not get any

mild sparrow
#

RIP

wet crane
#

So, for relic blade I'm guessing I'd want cranial grounding and heatsink to keep the special up?

ripe quest
# wet crane So, for relic blade I'm guessing I'd want cranial grounding and heatsink to keep...

Unfortunately, due to how they're made, the only heat reduction blessings that are notable are Cranial (increased uptime) and Overload (decreased downtime). Cranial being far better between the two. But the RB also has blessings like Rampage and Wrath, Rampage being really good in general and Wrath helping for high hitmass crowds. Common setups you'll see are Rampage + Cranial and Rampage + Wrath.

ripe quest
wet crane
velvet orbit
#

is evis actually good

mild sparrow
#

Yes

velvet orbit
#

one thing for sure is it isnt a regular chain weapon

mild sparrow
#

Spam lights until something armoured shows up

wet crane
#

Okay followup question, what would I want my 60% on for this, and how close to max values do I need to be before Empowering, if that matters?

mild sparrow
#

Then use a special heavy on armour

wet crane
#

It does depend on the Mark for the evis somwhat

#

The mkIII has a more complex moveset than the XV

mild sparrow
#

Ragers can be tricky, just one, you can use a heavy. A small group you can charge in with fury and start swinging lights. It will keep them stunlocked

#

(For the XV btw)

mild sparrow
inner cargo
#

Also could try using the chorus to be a support class in need

wet crane
#

I see. I guess I'm just a little unclear on how the percentages actually work. Like, is it purely tied to the power value, or could I potentially end up with a max power weapon without maxed values?

mild sparrow
#

Unless the game breaks it

#

That used to happen

#

But I haven't ran into it in over 400 hours so...

wet crane
#

So if it says x%/80%, it'll be 80% at 500 power?

next crow
#

yeah the stuff to the right hand side of the / is the final stats when the weapon is fully empowered

wet crane
#

Awesome, ty

#

I'm half tempted to just commit to this relic with 60% heat management but I'll see about getting one with 60% mobility instead

mild sparrow
#

Eww

#

Definitely not a stat you want to drop lol

wet crane
#

Yeah ik, I'll do it proper haha

#

I mean I'm gonna keep using it for now because it's my only one but yeah

misty nova
# velvet orbit is evis actually good

Yup
Evis3 requires a bit of brain power (alternatively Shred Perfect Strike and just spam lights lol)
Evis15 is just spam lights, something big shows up and you rev heavy (Alternatively, Bloodthirsty Evis15 rev everything)

wet crane
#

I'm honestly considering going up to Heresy a little earlier just so I can be done with Control Crowds faster

#

I wanna be done with stun grenades lol

misty nova
#

Fuck it we ball

#

Straight to Damnation

mild sparrow
#

Can't even do that anymore KEKW_ogryn

misty nova
#

I forgor

wet crane
#

I suspect my level 21 zealot would not go over well on Damnation haha

placid fiber
#

@acoustic dune My wife is dreaming she's in a ferret lab where they're wearing hardhats and banging their heads together

inner cargo
acoustic dune
#

after stumbling into a ferret community

#

by big ferrets

misty nova
#

The fert hive mind got her

wet crane
misty nova
#

Ferret proof your house

#

Now!

#

🗣️

ripe quest
# inner cargo I could try something that isn't DS or Relic, ranged isn't really a factor for m...

Weapon-wise you can run whatever as long as it covers all bases (though in coordinated lobbies this can be ignored a tad). I could put like 8 builds here but here are two simple melee ones. Usually w/ builds that take Restoring Faith in Havoc I take Martyrdom & Beacon of Purity w/ toughness curios. First one is the generally recommended havoc framework, though you can swap blood redemption to scourge if needed (slower weapons).

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inner cargo
runic grotto
#

piety or ij for ds4 with shroudfield?

misty nova
#

Now you're just saying words

#

(piety)

copper hawk
#

ffs

#

i know this is friendly fire but

runic grotto
#

Ill do this

copper hawk
#

twinks need to btfo out of purpleheart armory

#

i'm getting a new saber

#

the military saber v5 on purpleheart

#

since i'm comfy w the gymnasium and want something a bit heavier and more period for challenging sparring

#

gonna get new gloves since they hurt more (my buddy uses an adept saber, which is a polish company that makes heavier sabers)

#

go to all the leather sparring gloves

#

sparring gloves long cuff

#

small (out of stock)

#

ok next set of leather sparring gloves

#

small (out of stock)

#

ok dagger/buckler/rapier sparring (they're lighter, will have to wear fingertip protection)

#

ALL THE SMALLS ARE OUT OF STOCK !!!!!!!!!

#

WHAT THE FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#

TWINKS GET THE FUCK OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET ONE OF UR OWN BUY SOME SHIT FFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMALL HANDZ HAVIN ASSES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#

that concludez my Ted Talke

carmine falcon
ivory marlin
misty nova
#

I saw friendly fire and twinks

#

Thought it was Ogryns twin linked

copper hawk
#

i just

misty nova
#

But it's just small hands cica complaining that small hands gloves are small hands out of stock

copper hawk
#

yes

#

it's that

#

GRAAAH

#

and the only other places i can get like

#

sparring gloves are just from straight europe

#

but that'll take like

#

100 yrs to get here

ivory marlin
#

Im so lost

#

Cica do you sword fight twinks?

copper hawk
#

i am a swordfighting twink

#

the lil sparring group this guy from hq set up

#

i mean he kinda is but also really isn't

#

and the other guys are like

#

37 y/o sfc who's a brick shit house 6'5 monster who usually does buhurt

#

and a 6'0 brick shit house who's got insanely huge arms

#

they're pains in the ass to spar with

#

they'll just blow through your guards and out wind you cuz they're tall and have long ass arms

#

bleh

#

cant wait to get off this deployment and join an actual club/school again

#

where i'll be paired with people i can actually spar and train with

misty nova
#

Welp
Seems like you gotta fit the trope that small fighters are faster

copper hawk
#

not necessarily

#

i burn out faster cuz im smaller

#

i have to nimbler but i'm not all too nimble

#

only benefit is i do a lot of cardio and almsot entirely do legs

#

but my arms feel like jelly after like 10 bouts

static sky
# copper hawk not necessarily

Sparring/fighting with Titans can be dangerous for your health. Side effects include: getting folded like a lawn chair, relieving your bowels, and minor to major brain injuries.
Best strategies for bigger opponents.
1: stay in your weight class
2: get bigger
3: get a bigger friend
4: run
5: engage(but stay as close to their center of gravity as you can) negate their mass/velocity. Getting hit doesn’t hurt. It’s the momentum afterwards that’s the killer.

#

6: protecc your jaw and temples at all costs. Those are the night night switches.

velvet orbit
#

i could use some explanation ngl

image.png
#

why the tome is floating

lean fern
static sky
#

Cuz that drip is fly

misty nova
copper hawk
#

and it's mostly hands and arms

#

i rlly cant get much bigger

#

i've min maxxed myself just about as much as i can at my age

#

i have a 540 pt score idk what else i can do

#

might sound like a whiner or incel-ish in thought but i'll just never be as good as someone who's taller

#

their capacity for strength and just natural ability owed to their height will just make them always better than me

#

such is the plight of being a tiny creature

delicate shadow
#

I'd win

copper hawk
delicate shadow
#

Just rock 'im

south prism
#

that's not a rock!!

static sky
delicate shadow
clever swan
#

being smaller is probably okay for gun fights, at least

south prism
#

he right

misty nova
static sky
#

But if you’re fighting a Tom Aspinall. There’s nothing to be done but lay down and go to sleep

ripe quest
delicate shadow
copper hawk
#

just run away

clever swan
#

if only chiaotzu played to such a strength

delicate shadow
sullen forge
delicate shadow
#

it won't happen but I could ask lmao

sullen forge
#

tungsten cube that leaves obvious cracks behind where it landed