zealot-class

[runic grotto]

= Lobbies fill up even faster

And not the opposite

[copper hawk]

Too busy grinding out mandatory difficulty locks

[runic grotto]

I play quick play aurics

And literally no one is joining

It's fuckind dead

[copper hawk]

Nuh uh uuuuh lil timmy u gotta play 10 more glorpshits 2 unlock Slopnation !

[runic grotto]

Fucking dogshit

[copper hawk]

And when u complete ur 40 hours on damnation u get a paycheck

[runic grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/533050129700356106/1311847246043545650/attachment.gif

[copper hawk]

That being auric

[runic grotto]

Game is dead

No one plays it

[copper hawk]

Every1 2 bsy doing skooma

Also it is a friday morning

Happy 4th of July ,,

[frosty herald]

Bros giving himself how did we get there irl

[acoustic briar]

ok you fanatics have some explaining to do

[mighty root]

Sorry was me

Make shroudfield buff your dodges that allow you to pass through enemies

Instead of just going invis

[acoustic briar]

is this actually u?

[mighty root]

No I’m joking lol

[ripe quest]

It's fine now. Not significantly so, but it's better.

[vapid mural]

what are yalls opinion on relic blade

[ripe quest]

A bit overtuned, but a very nice execution of the design.

[craggy jackal]

Popular weapon

Very good

[ripe quest]

Blessings are somewhat interesting, but it like many other weapons has the 'these few blessings are ideal and the rest are really bad' problem.

[craggy jackal]

Some would argue their best weapon

[ripe quest]

Also it kinda just makes it hard to ever justify running 2/3 of the chain weapons

which is super funny

[scarlet raven]

Long

[hard nexus]

perfect strike shred piety

[placid fiber]

I'll take 20 of that curio that you have there

[spiral anvil]

Just don't get hit smh

But also, is there a subreddit that contains questions that require an entire essay full of counterpoints and nuances to fully answer

[obtuse trail]

Scarier writing than most of 40K

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/just-house-totally-duh-gif-23663188

[runic grotto]

Are there any mods or anything else that increases chance for banter? Because I don't think I heard any banter for the past 5 missions

All the dialogue is about the current event we need to do or abilities and whatever

I heard so many funny banter lines on youtube but haven't actually heard any of them myself

[molten barn]

In this build:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ede2ba5-850b-41d0-9325-4f42cddf9836/the-meta-havoc-40-zealot
Can I switch out the Mk II Relic Blade with an Mk X Relic Blade? If so, do I have to change anything or use a different dump stat?

[runic grotto]

yes

[molten barn]

Thanks

[runic grotto]

mk 2 is better, but has actual combos

10 is just light light light light

so both are good

[misty nova]

You can drop that point on chorus and get 10% attack speed

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-whatever-fine-whatever-gif-gif-699506307301513791

[runic grotto]

Also this build sucks

[misty nova]

Eh

I'd say 7.5/10

[molten barn]

I just looked for a recent build, I'm not an expert

[hard nexus]

this is a really meh build

[runic grotto]

it's not the build™

[hard nexus]

gameslantern builds in general are pretty bad

[molten barn]

Can you link me "The Build™" please?

[runic grotto]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1390092232522072134/IMG_9041.png?ex=6868fa06&is=6867a886&hm=0abfb26c068c82deef2a70c0305572af76f0381aed7f8ffaa13777ff2d216787&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=452&height=960

[copper hawk]

Wow this build is

Ungood

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da3f788-30e4-4894-ba96-11b2065387e0/the-relic-blade-sucks

Here's an alt

This is what i ise

Use*

My own build anyways

[misty nova]

looks inside

Disdain

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[molten barn]

Ok so... what's the actual best build? One I can just go "click click click click" and the enemies are all dead

[runic grotto]

Best build is this but you take good balance instead of disdain

And any ranged weapon you like

Literally any

Or I would take +10% crit from piety instead of disdain and stalwart if it's for aurics

[molten barn]

Which is best for distant enemies? Like gunners, I always get screwed by them.

[runic grotto]

stalwart is for havoc gaming

[runic grotto]

Las pistol

It's a shooter killing machine

[molten barn]

"Heavy Laspistol" right?

[runic grotto]

yes

You take the one that does more damage and slower

Put flak maniac on it

[molten barn]

Which is its dumpstat?

[runic grotto]

Mobility

Or collateral

I don't remember

anyway check the pins

[molten barn]

Collateral, thank you

[placid fiber]

For the laspistol? iirc stability for the faster shooting one and mobility for the slower shooting one

It doesn't have a collateral stat

[runic grotto]

oh, right

it has stability

[molten barn]

Oh yeah I misread it

[placid fiber]

It has these stats

[runic grotto]

Then yes, stability

[placid fiber]

iirc it's mobility for the mk10

[runic grotto]

yes

But you take mk 2 anyways

[molten barn]

Ah okay

[runic grotto]

put flak maniac on it

dumdum + ghost

and boom

Shooters are gone

Literally the best shooter killing weapon in the game

[placid fiber]

Bold of you to assume I choose the right option... I have a favorite build on arbiter right now and it's boltgun + chainsword with the forceful keystone :3

[runic grotto]

Sounds like a good build

[molten barn]

Okay, gotta level it first tho

Thanks

[placid fiber]

Well... any other weapon than the chainsword would be better overall... I just like how I've been doing it <.<'

Back me up cica

[copper hawk]

U get full benefit from disdain every swing with relic

It meets breakpoints

Good balance is redundant with stalwart and enduring faith

[runic grotto]

Doesn't disdain work every other swing?

[misty nova]

The problem is the every swing part

[copper hawk]

A Banished One did the testing

[copper hawk]

Yes

[misty nova]

[copper hawk]

That's what i meant by every swing

[clever swan]

[copper hawk]

Every swing it procs u get full value

[runic grotto]

So you get 12.5% damage AT MOST

[copper hawk]

It's free extra damage

On top of the damage from sustained

And duelist

[placid fiber]

It's 5 stacks of 5%

[copper hawk]

And everything else

[runic grotto]

Its 12% damage against weakest enemies in the game

[placid fiber]

but yeah 12.5% damage on average

[runic grotto]

And it's 12% at most

[copper hawk]

That's 25% of extra damage every other swing

[runic grotto]

or 12 on average if you get the full benefit every single time

[copper hawk]

With the way the weapon cleaves through everything when powered, especially with wrath, means you get the full benefit

On not judt trash

[placid fiber]

I mean yes... but instead I could make my ranged do 25% more damage to nearby enemies :3

[copper hawk]

But rager packs as well

[runic grotto]

In reality it's less than even 12%

[copper hawk]

Along with the occassionl mauler

In reality (this was tested to a significant extent by Lumii) it does tremendously well in fights

Especially with mixed hordes

Whereas good balance is multiplied against all your other damage reduction and has its effectiveness massively reduced

We're talking like a fifth of what it would normally give you added to your dr

[runic grotto]

But you don't have other damage reduction?

I think good balance is your only source of damage reduction

[copper hawk]

It's a cost benefit analysis between one dogshit talent and one good talent in a vacuum

With sufficient context trees can look weird

[copper hawk]

Stalwart

Enduring Faith

[runic grotto]

It's not damage reduction

[copper hawk]

Tdr

[runic grotto]

Non of them are damage reduction

They are toughness damage reduction

These are different things

[clever swan]

dont mess with zealot chat we can't even agree on our one build

[copper hawk]

Im pretty sure when you take toughness damage all dr is multiplied together against the base then applied to the applicable damage

Im sure cole will appear to give me the math

[misty nova]

We can't agree on Disdain

[runic grotto]

@spare talon please confirm

[misty nova]

Disdain is shit
Disdain is shit
Disdain is good on this one specific scenario
Disdain is shit
Disdain is shit

That's basically the disdain pipeline

[copper hawk]

Anyways say what u will about lumii but he tested the shit out of that build i posted

Came to the disdain reality

[clever swan]

they should unban some of the legends

after a year at least like gd

[copper hawk]

The one i posted

Download the Keep Swinging mod and never heavy again

Unless u do a chastise thrust running heavy

[spark raven]

i kinda wish there where talent for specfic weapons that cchanged or enchanced their playstyle

[molten barn]

Isn't modding always-online games guaranteed bans?

[copper hawk]

Not with darktide

All the mods on nexus are fine

There's a whole modding discord

I have like 40 something mods

Probably more

[molten barn]

Ah okay, neat, I didn't know that!

[copper hawk]

I had to shave them down after the update

[clever swan]

we could think of blessings as being such

[molten barn]

Just real quick, is a Modloader a thing, or is it "drop into game, the game screams at you which mods don't work"?

[clever swan]

you need dmf and dml i think

[molten barn]

Thank you

[frosty herald]

Fatshark also removed easy anticheat because you can count the darktide cheaters on one hand

[misty nova]

In all my 2k hours

[frosty herald]

Also get auto mod load order

[clever swan]

can use auto mod loading and ordering to help with the process

[misty nova]

I've run into a single cheater

[clever swan]

gay suggestion

[misty nova]

Malcagoat the Chadlite

[acoustic dune]

Do you think malco boy fuck?

Does he have that "dilf" energy

[spark raven]

God gunners still rip into shreds with 45% Gunner resist im 2 Toughness and one HP curio

[misty nova]

Oh hey

They Saved Tiny Chef

[spark raven]

Even with tankier build i feel like every nick halfkills me

I had a Knife build i like that had more toughness regen than it could be depleted bbut i think i cant make that happen anymore

[gloomy vine]

will this be fine with mk15 (i am a silly brainless creature)

i might try this

[stray summit]

get the 3rd gunner curio

[placid fiber]

btw curio damage resists are multiplicative meaning 3 15% gunner resists are not 45% gunner resist it means you take 1 x 0.85 x 0.85 x 0.85 damage from them with that

[vagrant knoll]

Can someone explain the martyrdom keystone to me? Why the fuck would I want to go and purposefully kill myself to stack wounds?

[spark raven]

I have 3 gunner resists

[stray summit]

get a 4th gunner resis

[placid fiber]

Already did, it's called: Sliding

[stray summit]

you're not killing yourself to stack wounds, you're stacking wounds so you can kill your health bar so you can get outrageous damage and attk speed

[copper hawk]

U rang ?

[vagrant knoll]

How do you stack wounds without killing yourself to get the wound in the first place?

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

Ur exactly right

Marty is moldy

[stray summit]

3 wound curios and the +2 wound talent

[placid fiber]

For marty? take health damage without going down

[copper hawk]

Piety gives u better tdr

[vagrant knoll]

So just go in, and let yourself get melee'd a bunch to wound up?

[placid fiber]

Barrels are the safe way

[stray summit]

or use a fire barrel

[copper hawk]

Better to just get burned

Melee lets u get corrupted

Bye bye wounds

[placid fiber]

melee from poxwalkers*

[vagrant knoll]

What if no fire barrels

[copper hawk]

Be very sad

[stray summit]

Ur not looking hard enough

[placid fiber]

Fine a singular scab or dreg bruiser

[vagrant knoll]

Also does melee damage cause corruption? I thought that was only if you go down? Im still new to the game

[placid fiber]

and let them hit you a bit

[stray summit]

there will always be barrels

[stray summit]

just poxers

[placid fiber]

Only poxwalkers cause corruption damage for the basic enemies

[stray summit]

The basic horde chaff

the dudes with flak armor on their heads/bodies do dmg but no corruption

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

You let chip damage build up

[stray summit]

the end goal isnt wounds its damage

wounds are just a step on the path

[misty nova]

Only if you're really confident

[copper hawk]

Just use another keystone man

[placid fiber]

You can do more or less 3 types of things for marty: Go full balls to the walls and get all wound stacks, play it safe and only get a few, or just let he chip damage add up over time

[misty nova]

That you warm yourself up a little on fire

[copper hawk]

If ir playing at high hp u might as well not be running marty

[stray summit]

martyrdom is REALLY high execution, but super werf if you can stay alive

[copper hawk]

And u have 2 lose quite a bit of hp 2 get the benefits to at least be greater than that given by the other keystones

Play to maximize ur keystone = punished by being at loe hp

[placid fiber]

uh... 2 marty stacks gives more melee damage than ij >.>

[misty nova]

Except you can't really be punished

Second Wind

[copper hawk]

Play to maximize survivability = might as well run a diff keystone

[misty nova]

Vicious Offering

[copper hawk]

Kid named chip damage

[misty nova]

You can't get chipped if at max toughness

[copper hawk]

Bro did not just mention vicious offering and second wind in the same breath ,,

[stray summit]

Until Death is a MUST for martyr

[misty nova]

You're right

It was supposed to be Blood Redemption

Not Vicious

[copper hawk]

If ur not a perfect runner who never takes a single iota or pubic hair's worth of damage to tness (this person doesnt exist)

[placid fiber]

Until death is a nice safety net, but, by no means is it something you should rely on

[copper hawk]

Then i suggest just running a diff keystone

[misty nova]

But why

[stray summit]

when you walk into the match with 7 wounds you are telling all of tertium "i can kill you all and take 0 dmg" so its gon look REAL SILLY when you take damage and go down, 10/10 would recommend

[copper hawk]

Cuz it's moldy

[misty nova]

If you can get yourself to 2 wounds and never get hit afterwards

Wouldn't you have

You know

Really fucking high uptime

[copper hawk]

Yippe some Slight Benefits

[placid fiber]

You do this opposite of relying on it, you fight tooth and claw to avoid having it activate

[stray summit]

"Slight" he says

[copper hawk]

Looks at dodge distance and reset of ij

Looks at stalwart..

[misty nova]

And no real risk because you're a zealot

25% tdr at best

[copper hawk]

Looks at my 3 wound curios and 150 tness

[misty nova]

Lower than Marty's

[copper hawk]

Despairs

U caught me i only take stalwart w my piety build

No other crit tdr

[placid fiber]

This is hilarious higui is the good cop and cica is the bad cop in this discussion

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[misty nova]

[copper hawk]

I hate marty in its current form

I want it reworked

[stray summit]

its ok to be wrong

[copper hawk]

They clearly wanted it to play like vt2 Zeal but that playstyle hinges and operates around temp hp

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/homeland-quinn-good-cop-bad-cop-interrogation-gif-5863613

[copper hawk]

Sitting at low hp without temp hp just makes you a competitive edger and not an unkillable monster

That damage reduction doing wonders at a nice and cozy oneshottable 25 hp

[stray summit]

yes but youre still a monster

[misty nova]

And in DT the only thing that can kill a zealot is an overhead or a trapper

[stray summit]

much more of a monster than other keystones

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[placid fiber]

Eh, not really. While marty does make you powerful from the damage the piety crit proccing enduring faith and invocation of death equals that level of power without the need for a low amount of hp

[stray summit]

constant + 24 attkspeed

[copper hawk]

Ur aware of the 70%+ tdr offered in the current stally build right

[stray summit]

dont need it chief the horde is already dead

[copper hawk]

Our One Build™

[stray summit]

defy the build

[copper hawk]

Ur right my increased swing speed from my fotf cleared them all

[placid fiber]

piety lets you have more or less permanent uptime on fotf's attack speed :3

[copper hawk]

Oh would u look at that ,, it's already back !! And my increased swing speed from fotf isnt even done yet !! Wow iod i sure love you

[stray summit]

I have that too, and the martyrdom boost on top of that

[copper hawk]

Then iod and i make out passionately

[stray summit]

So i have like

44

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/phaidei-gif-6556713681955102580

[copper hawk]

I love my mindless piety iod evis build

[placid fiber]

you have it, but, you are also fully subjected to waiting on the cd to finish rather than it just being ready when your attack speed buff is just ending

[cold aspen]

whats the best mark for tacaxe?

[copper hawk]

Preference

[placid fiber]

Probably the 7

[copper hawk]

Most prefer the 7

[stray summit]

chainaxe

[placid fiber]

Anyway this marty discussion is boring. I like marty, but, the drawbacks of it are real. I'm gonna go play vt2 >.>

[misty nova]

We already had the whole effective toughness math before

[misty nova]

None

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[misty nova]

In fact I think Lumi was there

And Bandit

[placid fiber]

So what would your effective toughness be with over 200... with perma enduring faith uptime? :3

[stray summit]

Wheres the guy who was asking about how martyrdom works in the first place?

[misty nova]

Idk

You can ping Json though

In fact

@plucky gate

We need insight on TDR and shit

We?

I know that I need

Don't know y'all

https://tenor.com/view/wh-gif-4365587

[placid fiber]

I mean with 50% tdr that would double the effective toughness which something like 180 or 190 is more of a reasonable amount to use instead of like 215

So that's 360 or 380 effective toughness without taking into account stalwart, benediction, dr, or tdr nodes

[clever swan]

best roblox gamemode??

[misty nova]

Maaaan

[stray summit]

here's what we should do with the martyrdom keystone

[misty nova]

All I'm taking from this

[stray summit]

we should give it another wound

[misty nova]

Is that Martyrdom bloodthirsty Evis15

Is the best build in the game

[stray summit]

hes so right

[hard nexus]

probably

[placid fiber]

I mean it would be, if not for vt2 zealot :3

[misty nova]

It's ok

60% of the people didn't play VT2

[placid fiber]

60% of people didn't get to enjoy a rogulite mode in a tide game, sadge

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-2-silent-hill-james-sunderland-morgan-freeman-true-gif-2707173468969572016

The good news is that they didn't get stupid stealth boons

Fuck those

(I don't play Shade)

[placid fiber]

The bad news is they lost out on 1% attack speed and damage per boon you have

I love that boon so much :3

[stray summit]

Its so peak

[misty nova]

I should replay VT2

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[placid fiber]

It's how to play any career as slayer >_>'

I had ranger vet attacking faster than 1h slayer does with leap active one time lol

Oh fucking finally, when I got on vt2 this time be'lakor wasn't on the citadel of eternity

give me fucking miasma nurgle any day over the fucking skulls

[misty nova]

You will get Flying skull noises

And you will like it

[placid fiber]

I did earlier... many many times...

I still can almost hear them right now x.x

The people who designed be'lakor were sadists, both curses are ass

I think even poison exploding enemies is less ass...

[misty nova]

Uh
If I search "belakor" on tenor, I get bob l'ponge gifs

Spunchbob

[placid fiber]

Anyway I'm gonna play huntsman and pray I get some attack speed lol

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[placid fiber]

I love the bow on huntsman so fucking much

[placid fiber]

I know, the people in the vt2 discord gave me the same look when I told them about how huntsman is my 2nd best career for solo clutching and my favorite kruber career

[misty nova]

Huntsman is one of the classes ever

I sure loved getting 3 red bows for him in a row

[placid fiber]

oh, I hadn't seen this cd rate one before :\

I"ve seen crit before, but, not cd rate on low rarity

[stray summit]

it debuted with the weekly expedition

[misty nova]

Yeah

I remember going Perma gray tier run

[stray summit]

marginally less peak than its crit rate cousin

[stray summit]

remember? That's like every run ever since the new boons dropped

[misty nova]

But it was for crit chance rather than cdr

I stopped playing a while ago

Basically

WHC

GK with that one CRIT skill

[stray summit]

one tap everything short of a chaos warrior

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[spark raven]

I loved sister of thorns in VT2 granted i was never good at that game

[stray summit]

we need lift staff in DT

[placid fiber]

While sister of the thorns was still op I went and learned how to use the elven axe >.>

[stray summit]

aka just light spam because all the attacks are the same

heavy big guys

[placid fiber]

You still have to learn how to handle a horde without getting eviscerated due to no cleave x.x

[stray summit]

push

like occasionally

or bring an ACTUAL weapon cuz axes get done so dirty in these games

not an ounce of cleave unless you have a blessing that doesn't even exist in v2

[misty nova]

Pyromancer Flail

You can up 2 tiers

And still build around 80% CRIT chance

With that boon

[visual stream]

Does blocking disable the backstab audio?

[placid fiber]

Pyro is the 1 career I have never been able to enjoy. Edging high heat feels terrible to me, and it's not even having to take damage if I want to vent for spells... I hate being at a high heat... that's one of the issues I have with staff psyker, it seems you want to literally edge your peril to succeed on it :\

Whc I just don't vibe with his career skill... but pyro? The whole thing about pyro is being at a high heat for that crit x.x

[lament ruin]

Well with staff Psyker you need to be at high peril for maximum buffs and venting shriek spamming

[placid fiber]

I understand that, and how powerful that is... but I am paranoid and being near the explosion point makes me extremely nervous in case I need to immediately throw out casts to kill shit x.x

And I know you can quell the peril, but, what if I need that immediately and not in 2 seconds? :/

[lament ruin]

That’s what venting shriek is for

Instant peril vent aoe soul blaze stacks and knockdown effect

[placid fiber]

Maybe... but it still doesn't change that you need to be edging your peril for buffs

[lament ruin]

Ye it does require you to pay attention to your peril and know your safe peril points

[carmine falcon]

this game needs to be toxic and allow you to ban classes

[placid fiber]

It isn't that I can't do those things, it's that I don't like being that close to screwing up 1 time and blowing up x.x

battle wizard had the answer to heat for me... tranquility(and I use the 3s version)

And unchained can cancel a blow up and has abandon :/

I think I'm gonna do a lingering flames chaos wastes run. They changed lingering flames to tick at double the rate... and while you can't stack burn dots you can literally guarantee something will die even if it's a stupid blightstormer and it teleported away <.<'

Besides I might get famished flames in that run and have double burn damage and double the tick rate :3

[hearty nebula]

I think my zealot is softlocked, chat

[placid fiber]

[hearty nebula]

My game crashed when I was doing battle for tertium story last night during the cutscene

and now the mission board just doesn't show up on my zealot

[placid fiber]

Oh shit I just realized vt2 has loadouts now and I can equip bot stuff on the 2nd profile and my own stuff on the 1st!

[placid fiber]

Might wanna report that >.>'

[hearty nebula]

ok nvm just had to go back to operative selection

was very concerned for a second

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I don't doubt that at all

[grave cypress]

why the fuck was momentum on my thammer

ugggg im gonna die

[placid fiber]

My guess is you probably were testing something and forgot to change it back... and didn't double check the thammer

[misty nova]

Or

Oh wait

Momentum as in blessing

Or keystone

Because keystone helps with poor dodges

[north sedge]

blessing

im guessing

[misty nova]

If it's blessing

Idk

[hard nexus]

i used to think momentum hammer was a good idea

back when the game first came out

[placid fiber]

Same lol

[grave cypress]

blessing that gives you toughness on killw ith thammer

[placid fiber]

We sucked back then didn't we Meow >_>

[placid fiber]

There's already talents that can do that, why would we need a blessing? x.x

Know what's nice about hosting your own chaos waste runs in vt2? You can start it off as private and reset until you get a starting/2nd bonus that you want and it will affect no one but you. :3

Since you can remove the private setting as soon as you're in a mission lol

Does it make it so you can't start with coins? Maybe. Is it cheaty? Also maybe... but idc, I'm here to have fun damnit >.<'

[hearty nebula]

Yipee

Just 250k left to go :3

[placid fiber]

nice

[cunning knoll]

is the turtolsky any good?
tried one on damnation just now and it feels really bad compared to other weapons

[misty nova]

It's up there

Only real weakness is carapace

[cunning knoll]

maybe i just have a shitass build

[misty nova]

What blessings you running

[cunning knoll]

ah, yeah thats my main issue

deathblow/perfect strike

[misty nova]

Just Deathblow?
So you might have to drop that perfect strike for Headtaker

[cunning knoll]

yeah, definitely

light weakspot crit wasn't even killing basic horde enemies with both of the blessings

so it needs the oomph

[placid fiber]

lol they put the things so far apart guys you can't find em ever >.>'

[cunning knoll]

what perks would you recommend?

ill admit i didn't look at the weapon too hard before just slapping some stuff on it and trying it out

[misty nova]

I recommend Flak Maniacs

[green yacht]

Flak is going to give you a lot of benefit

[cunning knoll]

thanks

[misty nova]

Also the recommend mark is the 9

Heavy spam for hordes

And the H1 for big targets that aren't carapace

[runic grotto]

There are 2 goods marks of heavyswords

One has only vanguard lights

The other one is a mix of relentless and vanguard but has both heavies as an overhead

[jagged cradle]

thanks you’re the best

[ornate bone]

Anyone know which mark or heavy sword is best for making a bit more of a dent in crushers/maulers? I use MK7 and it’s great, but I wonder if I’m using the wrong one!

[misty nova]

Your carapace damage comes from the special attack + heavy

So basically all the Hsword

Which still not great damage against carapace

You're better off carrying a Zarona revolver or bolter

For carapace

[lament ruin]

With fotf it’s not that bad into carapace

[grave cypress]

this fucking not eligable for havoc bug where you have to lose a life in order to get rid of it so you can play in a team again

how is this still a thing

[mighty root]

I like 9

[ornate bone]

I carry the bolter just incase, but thanks for the info!

[hard nexus]

this is what i run in specific

[jagged cradle]

i’ve never seen anything quite like this

truly remarkable

[lament ruin]

isnt it just the classic piety build

tho the curios are interesting

[jagged cradle]

no no no this is different

[vast basin]

This is a typical zealot build tho?

[jagged cradle]

it’s the pinnacle of darktide

[hard nexus]

why

[lament ruin]

just personal preferences

I prefer stamina regen and cdr with sprint efficiency

with one or two toughness perks

and one or two stamina curios

[eternal tide]

phenomenal zealot build

truly unique

[lament ruin]

oh I get it now

[vast basin]

CDR and sprint eff on curios

[lament ruin]

i like spamming fotf and sprinting ok

[elder zodiac]

Anyone have a relic sword focused build

[gaunt roost]

why arent there any outdoors maps in darktide

[drifting wolf]

zealot compendia in the pins has a list of builds that like the relic blade

[gaunt roost]

the build™

[elder zodiac]

Aight

[placid fiber]

Isn't the area in trs 150 kind of outdoorsish?

[drifting wolf]

hive cities aren't good for the environment and i'd imagine everything outside of the city is a desert wasteland

[lament ruin]

martyrdom relic blade

[placid fiber]

Also look at the difference in our special kills from this chaos wastes run lol

[misty nova]

The outside are would be in the wasteland

You know

You've seen it

From orbit

Or from the Hourglass

[drifting wolf]

i love sand

[elder zodiac]

Wait where is it? Is it like at the bottom of the list of pins

[drifting wolf]

i wish to walk across endless deserts

2nd pin

[misty nova]

I hate sand

It's coarse

Rough

Irritating

[elder zodiac]

The doc file?

[drifting wolf]

yeah

[grave cypress]

havoc is so unfair and stupid

[elder zodiac]

Dont play havoc

[placid fiber]

Isn't that the point...?

People wanted a challenge beyond auric maelstrom's level of challenge

[drifting wolf]

i haven't personally played havoc but yeah pretty sure that was the point

[median steeple]

Yeah higher havs are kind of supposed to be unfair

since we've been broken op for years now it's the only way to get some challenge for 90% of the people playing

[grave cypress]

im worse than 90% of players playing

[placid fiber]

I highly doubt that, you are severely overestimating the skill of the average player >.>

[gaunt roost]

^

[placid fiber]

The average darktide player can barely scrape by on heresy :\

with at least 1 or 2 competent players with them

The average darktide player goes down on malice to things besides getting disabled/overheaded/ledged...

[olive fossil]

is it just me or like

does zealot have literally no supporting features

[craggy jackal]

Book

[olive fossil]

idk maybe i havent learned how to play them properly but they feel lackluster compared to the other classes

[gaunt roost]

ive never seen a mutant disemboweled to this extent

[misty nova]

Your support is killing

If enemies are dead

They can't hurt teammates

Anyways

Middle ability

Fellowship Fortitude

[craggy jackal]

Theyre lackluster but not because theyre bad

[misty nova]

Shield of Contempt

And

Uh

That's it

?

[median steeple]

yeah the bug has allowed us to see a bunch of the gibbed models we would normally barely see

which is cool

[stray summit]

Chorus of Spiritual fortitude

middle ability

[clever swan]

i think there's a mod that allowed gibbing behavior to be like how it is now

[stray summit]

staggering waves
gold tghness
ledging monsters

peak ability

[sick thunder]

do you get a faster regen for the knives in mortis?

[misty nova]

Tied to amount of elites killed

• ammo pickups

But

[craggy jackal]

Elites killed with melee*

[misty nova]

Enemies have HP scaling with waves on Trials as well

So I don't know at which wave you'll lose breakpoints

[placid fiber]

I mean... zealot's primary way to support the team is by murdering stuff >.>

While book exists, it still do not change the fact zealot is a frontline elite killing class

[north sedge]

i just tell my team "great hustle" and pat them on the butt after every fight

[sick thunder]

I'm asking because on mortis you get regenerating grenades, so thought there might be a similar indulgence for the knives as well

[misty nova]

Think you'll have better results on Shock Troop Gauntlet maelstrom modifier

[placid fiber]

For the knives it is uh... knives cause bleed stacks and iirc if the enemy dies with bleed stacks you get a % of the bleed stacks back as knives or something like that

[sick thunder]

This one would be easier in mortis at least though, right?

since you can regen the flame nades

[placid fiber]

btw this is it

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-i-don't-know-master-shifu-kfp-kfp1-gif-16313394302384903656

[placid fiber]

Speaking of which this shows every spec buff and every major indulgence meaning I can see what they get as an upgrade option >_>
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/mortis-trials/buffs

[sick thunder]

thanks, I'll check that out

[gaunt roost]

gotta love how the arb deluxe cosmetic looks better than every single penance cosmetic

[median steeple]

[placid fiber]

Nuncio's looks useful, but, break the line's... looks bad/mediocre... for the arbiter career skill upgrade in the mortis trials :\

[median steeple]

They're all really good

[placid fiber]

This is good...?

[median steeple]

but if you're gonna run multiple arbitrators no reason to run multiple BTLS

[median steeple]

I mean if can be if your running the spam build

but it's mortis

so like

everything is good

[placid fiber]

I'd rather have the nuncio version instead of the btl version

[gaunt roost]

thats hilarious 10/10

also mortis is piss easy u could go 0 upgrades and still be fine

[placid fiber]

Assuming your randos know how to target specials and you don't get overwhelmed by like... 8 hounds, 10 trappers, and 15 snipers...

It's usually the snipers in there that seem to mess the randos I get up >.>

[grave cypress]

i genuinely dunno sometimes if scoreboard mod fucks up sometimes and just says i do more disablers and specials just to make me feel better

[plush estuary]

Nope

I did more

[gloomy vine]

scoreboard always says im doing lowest amount of damage when i feel like im doing really well

idk what im doing wrong : (

so i just tell myself that damage isnt everything

[drifting wolf]

getting paired with arbites equipped with thor's baton and streetsweeper 9000

[solar gorge]

the shotgun that clears the map in 1 click :

[gloomy vine]

yeah its usually in matches with arbites

[craggy jackal]

Blow them up with barrels so you can farm more damage

[heady rapids]

green circle farming in the big 25

[drifting wolf]

orange number farm

[craggy jackal]

The green circles were so much easier to read

[heady rapids]

if you wanna farm damage real bad run smite

4head

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GuuAgfdXsAATFS0.gif

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lancer-deltarune-lancer-deltarune-gif-13527099

[drifting wolf]

i don't know what scores i should even be focusing on to judge my performance with that mod

[solar gorge]

pve shooter but all the enemies are blorbos

[median steeple]

honestly I just look at damage/spec kills

[misty nova]

"It was an accident"

[heady rapids]

spec elite kills is the only thing that matters

maybe boss damage

[median steeple]

nah

Bosses just die instantly with mid stuff now

they need a buff or something especially the captains

[drifting wolf]

anything to make those fights last long enough for the music to kick in

the beat doesn't even drop anymore

[heady rapids]

talking about modes that actually make bosses a threat

like havoc

[misty nova]

There's not even music anymore

[median steeple]

yeah you can kill them in under 30s which is right before the drop in Disposal unit

sometimes even faster

[heady rapids]

we need vermintide bosses with health gates

back

[drifting wolf]

you mean like bile trolls

[solar gorge]

this is the only reason why they need a buff

not for gameplay

who cares about that

[misty nova]

Sword Captain should swing faster outside of havoc

[median steeple]

straight up LTs should spawn in assassination missions and give assassination captains their havoc HP

[heady rapids]

bile is uh

idk

[misty nova]

Maul captain huge slow slam should have aoe knock back if it misses

[heady rapids]

i was talking more like story bosses

not all of the mtho

[drifting wolf]

ah

right, right

[solar gorge]

next patch they add minos dw

[heady rapids]

cause half of them just die in 1s

during their speech

[median steeple]

are plogryns just reskinned minos

they feel the same to me

the charge and everything

[heady rapids]

kinda

[misty nova]

Not fully

[solar gorge]

minos are stronger

[heady rapids]

its half minos

half ratogre

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kCNgcymyL8XrJL7fR?invite=cr-MSw3N2csMTA3NDAxNTcz
@plush estuary

[heady rapids]

not as strong as minos

[misty nova]

They don't 180° insta kill you

For the funny

[heady rapids]

but not as weak as ratogre

[median steeple]

that's just VT2 bosses in general "do it for the vine" insta kills you

[misty nova]

But like

[sullen forge]

Fair and balanced

[misty nova]

Minotaur is a tier above

[sullen forge]

should've dodged bro

[heady rapids]

nerfing the boss killers in vermintide was a good decision

[sullen forge]

Nerfs?

[misty nova]

He just 180° kills you then 180° keeps attacking a teammate

[sullen forge]

should've buffed

[drifting wolf]

what's the current state of bounty hunter

[heady rapids]

real beastmen hours

[median steeple]

I think normal monstros should get a small buff and we nerfed

[solar gorge]

low rank

[gleaming furnace]

dude if the pawgryn is just a reskinned minotaur ive lost so much respect for ppl who said minotaur was scary

[drifting wolf]

that sucks

[heady rapids]

he's still really good

[gleaming furnace]

like cmon the pawgryn is hardly even a boss

[sullen forge]

its a reskinned Rat Ogre

[heady rapids]

just lost the ability to farm cws on client

[median steeple]

we have way better tools to kill bosses than in VT2 and when we did in VT2 they got nerfed

[void bison]

holy moly ribworld just became perfect

[heady rapids]

you can still 1 cycle bosses with a pot

and conc

i think

[drifting wolf]

the world needs more giant man-eating toads

[median steeple]

yeah I really hope we get more daemon bosses

[misty nova]

Ooh
I should get RimWorld

Been forever since I played it

[solar gorge]

they should add a great unclean one with slow boring easy to dodge attacks but he has 10 billions hp

[drifting wolf]

what nurgle daemons haven't we seen yet that would be good boss material

[solar gorge]

like a burgle but worse

[gleaming furnace]

or perhaps a small slightly dirty one ?

[median steeple]

I think plaugebearers would make a good crusher for dregs ngl

[void bison]

if the greater catachan barking toad was real the west wouldn't be falling

[misty nova]

Yup

So we either get

Toads

[heady rapids]

remember when they teased the dreg shotgunner

[median steeple]

insta down kick

[median steeple]

bring it back

[solar gorge]

dregs's roster still being "unfinished" after 10 years

[heady rapids]

even wolfer bows down to him

[median steeple]

I don't think we'll ever get a rotfly outside of an end of mission fight

[solar gorge]

tbh i'd bow down to launch shotgunners too

these mfs scary

[heady rapids]

real

[misty nova]

A Bilepiper maybe

[heady rapids]

there's still the

[void bison]

we should be able to fight nurgle using the thuum to shout at him

[heady rapids]

uh

tox ogryn

that they cut

[solar gorge]

reskinned gatling ogre

[median steeple]

but yeah give dregs plaugebears so crushers can stop spawning with them

[gleaming furnace]

dreg crusher ?

[heady rapids]

twins are 2 years old now

i think

2 years no bosses

wack...

[drifting wolf]

guessing he wasn't used cause of burgle doing the area denial thing or just not wanting the game to have a stormfiend equivalent

[heady rapids]

bring back the tox ogryn.....

[solar gorge]

what's wrong with having a stormfied reskin

[drifting wolf]

i don't know

[solar gorge]

that didn't stop them from adding uh

every other boss in game

[drifting wolf]

chaos spawn

[heady rapids]

captains are a bodvarr reskin

rela..

real

[solar gorge]

the scap captain ? yep, it's a reskin from the warlord boss

totally

[drifting wolf]

actually now that i think about it burgle is just a corruption stormfiend so nvm

[heady rapids]

burgle is just an annoying piece of shit

they could just delete it from the game and i wouldnt bat an eye

esp after the cranial corruption event

[solar gorge]

if you remove the helmet of the scabtain it's just a stormvermin without scoliosis

[heady rapids]

still no stormvermin equivalent in dt

btw

[solar gorge]

crusher i guess

it's just tankier

[heady rapids]

crusher is cw

[solar gorge]

and slower overhead

i meant maulers

[lament ruin]

Bulwark?

[drifting wolf]

there's shield cws now

[misty nova]

Could add a mecha
Kevin Hart posing

[heady rapids]

bulwark is cw with shield but badly designed

there's maulers in vermintide

[median steeple]

yeah maulers and ragers are just straight up ported over

[drifting wolf]

did vermintide have anything similar to the shotgunners

[heady rapids]

no

[solar gorge]

yeah and maulers are just the norscan's stormvermins

[median steeple]

hate these guys

[heady rapids]

not really

[drifting wolf]

it's the closest thing i can think of even though it's not very comparable

[heady rapids]

its a melee focused game so

[ivory marlin]

Guys i bought some shoes while i wait for zealot rework

[misty nova]

Not real shotgunners
Unless you want to count Archers piling up and shooting at once

[solar gorge]

they can't be a 1:1 cuz lore but they fill the same niche in their respective roster

[heady rapids]

archers cant hit their shots 90% of the time ..

[ivory marlin]

Ngl

[misty nova]

And you can easily block the shots

[ivory marlin]

Id make a great clown

Als

[misty nova]

Without a shield

[ivory marlin]

The original owner died in the shors

His wife is selling them

So like

[solar gorge]

don't die in your shoes

[drifting wolf]

those shoes are haunted

[ivory marlin]

Most definitely haunted

[solar gorge]

or someone will steal them off your corpse

[heady rapids]

well he's pretty distinct cause he doesnt have a shield version, is overall much slower and has roller skates

and he has an armored head

[ivory marlin]

Bleeding out while tryna kick my shoes off

[heady rapids]

that's a pretty unique enemy type

[solar gorge]

it's a bigger grunt that overheads

[heady rapids]

rats dont have a chaos warrior either

norscans dont have a blackfur

[solar gorge]

they don't have fur at all in fact

[heady rapids]

both have berserkers

bestigor charger is like a reverse mauler

no head armor but pretty fast and has a unique mechanic

rmemeber release maulers.....

that was one of the enemies of all time

[eternal tide]

How is the heavy evis after the buffs?

is it comparable to Relic Blade now?

in terms of ease of use and cleaving hordes at least

[heady rapids]

also

did they remove mauler patrols

[solar gorge]

it's marginally better than before nothing crazy like relic blade

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079235834777186406/1103976473620131891/8mb.video-mpH-WyPqmAUw.mp4?ex=6868f036&is=68679eb6&hm=cb3daf34e9a35d6edcae9c933b6d314fd03242312b67f876c008d618bd3fa66e&

[eternal tide]

damn sadge :c

[heady rapids]

bring back old darktide....

[misty nova]

Bro's gonna wear those and download a clown spirit from beyond the grave to his body

[solar gorge]

i better not peak out of cover, this is launch shooter trash i'm up against or i'm finished

[ivory marlin]

Like the fucking sorcerer supreme or whatever from dc

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/power-gif-26477241

[heady rapids]

man

[ivory marlin]

Put them on and his spirit takes over

[heady rapids]

i remember when no one knew how to deal with shooter trash

and everyone would just complain about vets not running infantry las

[solar gorge]

it was better back then cuz you could run inf las and be cool instead of being a dork

[heady rapids]

i still have my xii from back then

i think

[visual stream]

gen chatter saying to stop shoving bursters

[heady rapids]

with dumped stopping power

[visual stream]

never change, gen chat

[solar gorge]

i have the same anti-shooter loadout on vet as my first one

i have all my launch loadouts in fact

on all classes

[heady rapids]

my launch loadouts were something like

[solar gorge]

the only one that has gotten exponentially better is ogryn's

[heady rapids]

caxe, caxe, caxe and i didnt play ogryn

[solar gorge]

zealot thammer from beta to today

i'll never let it go

[heady rapids]

ah yes

[drifting wolf]

i probably only used the mk2 evis on zealot at launch, don't remember what gun but i'm assuming bolter

[heady rapids]

m,y beloved unusable weapon cause you could never roll thrust

[solar gorge]

back in my days there was only 1 thammer variant

[heady rapids]

gamblecore

[solar gorge]

and you didn't have that fancy smacky overhead on activated heavy

luxury for the skill issued i say

[heady rapids]

i remember the thammer bug

i dont remember the input to cancel the end lag tho

but you could just spam the special

oh yeah

you did that by pressing 1

or whatever you melee weapon bind was

https://packaged-media.redd.it/ocwmldug3gfa1/pb/m2-res_1080p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1751673600&s=861d5c9686ff7842bc3f3386ef5ad11bfd5722c5

[visual stream]

Back in my day when Ironhelm really was just a worse Crucis

[solar gorge]

it still is

[visual stream]

Explode

[solar gorge]

all hail crucis

[visual stream]

I knew you would

https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-daily-routine-hall-breaking-tv-throwing-controller-gif-4740959973143412307

[drifting wolf]

hammer of truth

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/reupload-gif-17846653021910044066

accept the crucis

[heady rapids]

i rembr crucian applying to melee......

[red mesa]

what mod is it to see like debuffs on an enemy, like how many skullcrusher stacks on a boss? i can see bleed stacks now from healthbars

[solar gorge]

you have to count it yourself everytime you hit something sorry

[hard nexus]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137

[red mesa]

ty!

[red mesa]

this is honestly what i do now, but in havoc with 3+ bosses sometimes its hard to track, or know if a teammate has applied

[visual stream]

I wish spess muhren had backstab audio cues like DT

I parry something, it gets a gun execute, which forces my camera angle to zoom in on it, so I have no idea an enemy starts an attack behind me that ends right as my execute finishes

[heady rapids]

@plush estuary remember how we tried out cata and that shit had sniper sound cues

[plush estuary]

yes

[heady rapids]

think before you gunstrike.....

smh...

[visual stream]

Very boring but a lesson I have learned

Parry forty things before you can interact or deal damage again

[heady rapids]

or you could just

dodge

so the enemies have to catch up first

while you gun strike

[visual stream]

In a group of six elites and a horde, that doesn't seem to work so well

[plush estuary]

got launched

@upbeat torrent

[mighty root]

@plush estuary can i see your tac axe build with the dog?

[median steeple]

what the dog doing

[mighty root]

Tac axe spotted

[hearty nebula]

Deserved

[stone fern]

BUFF MANIAC DAMAGE

AND STAMINA BASE

NOW

seriously tho have you guys seen the stamina bars on arby maul and pickaxes

even fgs compared to other psyker weapons

[misty nova]

Tried playing ironhelm recently

[median steeple]

it's so peak

waiter waiter more stam

[stone fern]

newer weapons keep dropping with higher and higher stamina

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-miss-my-wife-omniman-i-miss-my-wife-gif-14784991181217223883

[stone fern]

while old ones remain forgotten

does anyone have a weapon release date or which patch theyre in

i wanna make an autism chart to bitch on the forums

[stone fern]

me

[visual stream]

In Havoc or Auric?

[misty nova]

Auric

[visual stream]

[misty nova]

My ping button legit wore off

I'm not going into havoc without being able to ping

[stone fern]

its ok

its still bugged

[visual stream]

Shrimply memorize the three important breakpoints and you're balling

[hushed knoll]

Hi clad

[stone fern]

hi

[hushed knoll]

Hi leggy bird

[visual stream]

What is

[misty nova]

You can try to search Changelogs

[stone fern]

you still cant ping while reviving

[hushed knoll]

Are you celebrating 4th of July

[visual stream]

Oh funny

[stone fern]

i dislike america

[hushed knoll]

Why

[stone fern]

<redacted>

[visual stream]

Is that a serious question Stan

Or are you banbaiting us

[hushed knoll]

Are you jealous of our cuisine

[plush estuary]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f48498a-9f22-4d86-8386-b5a00918cca6/dog-mancy

[stone fern]

🚬

please dont get me started

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/love-and-joy-dancing-cat-heart-is-full-of-love-and-joy-trinkets-trinkets-and-toys-gif-8137689065499612543

[stone fern]

i will absolutely eat that bait

[hushed knoll]

Why are you smoking

[visual stream]

I am jealous of other countries' ability to not be enslaved by billionaires and have healthcare

Our food is neat though so

[stone fern]

youre stressing me

[hushed knoll]

There are healthier ways to relieve stress

[stone fern]

america invented dried onions on hotdogs 🙏

[hushed knoll]

Dried onions slap tho

[stone fern]

ye i love em

[hushed knoll]

Why did I think you were from Latin America

Oh maybe cuz you were named Honduras

[visual stream]

Sauerkraut is top three hot dog toppings definitively

[hushed knoll]

Sauerkraut sucks

And I am German

[visual stream]

Oh yeah that

[mighty root]

Flak unyielding?

[hushed knoll]

Hi fyre

[visual stream]

I'm trying very hard to say nice things

[hushed knoll]

Sauerkraut has no redeeming qualities

[visual stream]

It has plenty

[mighty root]

Clad, Stan is just working as intended why must you hate him

[visual stream]

1. yummers
2. yummers
   I can keep going

[hushed knoll]

[mighty root]

I think you wanna play Skyrim

[rocky gull]

besides activating shroudfield during an attack animation to get more backstabs per shroudfield, I’m guessing the best weapon for the penance of killing 150 elites with shrouded backstabs is the knife?

[mighty root]

Yeah

[rocky gull]

and I’m assuming it’s the knife with the strikedown heavies that’s best for it, is my thinking correct?

[visual stream]

With shroud? Either will one shot every time I'm pretty sure

Probably

[mighty root]

Mk3 it’s good for that yes it’s my preference

[rocky gull]

thanks

[stoic estuary]

general chat is eating me alive so im here 2 let yall bully me aswell

i dont get zealot this is the only class i somehow die on

even though they are known for the literal cant die passive

what the fuck am i missing

[mighty root]

How are you building him?

Show the build and I can help

[stoic estuary]

i just consumed everything outta the guide

[mighty root]

Ohh I see

[visual stream]

Assuming by that that you took The Pattern?

[hard nexus]

dodge more

[hard nexus]

are you dying to chaff or specials or both

[visual stream]

True, zealot's big unkillability comes from melee murderizing and from dodging

[mighty root]

What did you take exactly? there’s certain paths for it

[stoic estuary]

this or the first example build with the speedy keystone

piety with crit evis is the only success ive had so far

and even then its like "why am i playing this over any other class"

[visual stream]

Self-reliability is one hell of a drug

[mighty root]

Try taking off righteous warrior and put on stalwart and good balance

[stoic estuary]

idk i dont get caught by specials and chaff is obviously a joke i just feel like i get caught by a gunner or random rager for half a second and boom thats it instant dead

[mighty root]

It’s really good with survivability

[stoic estuary]

i feel like from this question alone i should preface with the fact that like i casually play auric on other classes just fine

this isnt newbies first zealot this is somehow after 400 hours i still cant play zealot in a way that feels good

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870802009945702521/1389425982867378226/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=68693088&is=6867df08&hm=1a5c58a9970a0f1819c2a9612299e07d872ac58540cbf2eecacdf243543d1091&

[craggy jackal]

your TDR and toughness regun is from dodging

[mighty root]

Are you playing like this?

[craggy jackal]

and taking stalwart

[hard nexus]

it wasn’t meant accusatorially

just genuine