#zealot-class

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green lintel
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ggs tho, maybe if i put another 700 hrs in i can be just as good lmfao

gaunt roost
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niche internet microcelebrity

acoustic dune
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chat

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wtf

sullen forge
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that your first time getting recognized lmao

ripe quest
# acoustic dune chat

It's to make it so that people can get a free warbond in the case that they already have steeled veterans and purchase the deluxe edition, which comes with steeled veterans already. Prior it was a thing where you needed to create a support ticket to get 1k super credits, but this'll automate the process.

void bison
# acoustic dune wtf

It's to make it so that people can get a free warbond in the case that they already have steeled veterans and purchase the deluxe edition, which comes with steeled veterans already. Prior it was a thing where you needed to create a support ticket to get 1k super credits, but this'll automate the process.

ripe quest
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Also just makes it so that in the future people aren't locked into just getting steeled vets

native sail
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piety vs IJ for knife?

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also wow the mk6 is nice

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dont have to break my finger mashing lights

acoustic dune
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I THOUGHT IT WAS A NEW ACE COMBAT GAME

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GRAHHH

craggy jackal
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Knife is a finesse weapon

ripe quest
# native sail piety vs IJ for knife?

Run either and see what you like. IJ's dodge buffs are really funny on already good dodge weapons. Piety gives more crits, you don't need it to maintain enduring faith or crit CDR. Can take Stalwart.

rose hawk
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I feel like shred in almost every way is better than bloodthirsty no?

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Especially for like fighting a boss

gloomy vine
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what blessings for bolt pistol

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puncture seems pretty solid so that seems like one i'll take

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but for the second one i'm torn on lethal or run n gun

rose hawk
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Puncture and surgical typically

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I think back when the bolt pistol got buffed lethal proximity became more viable?

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Execution can also be good

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I think

ripe quest
rose hawk
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Im using eviscerator is it also an option for other chain weapons

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I don't really like the other chain weapons as much

rose hawk
misty nova
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Nah

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Rev everything

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It's that simple

rose hawk
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That's what I was doing and it seemed pretty chill

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But idk I feel like shred would overall be better for me

misty nova
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Unless you're going piety
Then go shred instead of bt

rose hawk
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Idk the eviscerator sometimes feels absolutely amazing and does insane damage and then other times it takes like 3-4 hits to kill a fodder enemy and I'm like uhhh

rose hawk
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Never

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Oh wait no I got that wrong

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I've been dick riding piety I don't think I'll use martyrdom or the other keystone like ever

ripe quest
rose hawk
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Also I'm probably staying the obvious

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But if you go piety perfect strike is just better than savage sweep in every conceivable way yes?

gaunt roost
void bison
ripe quest
rose hawk
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Makes sense

quiet heath
craggy jackal
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Just use cyns build

brisk raft
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Cyns?

obsidian prairie
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This

quiet heath
obsidian prairie
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Same thing

plush estuary
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2 tough

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1 stam

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or 3 tough

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or 2 tough 1 hp

quiet heath
obsidian prairie
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All the same

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3x gunner res is good

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Lets you ignore them more for focusing other stuff

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And prevents getting beamed

craggy jackal
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The minor perks are whatever you feel like running

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Good ones are more toughness more health faster stam regen and resist against ranged enemies

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Or if you are playing something that doesn’t require a min maxxed build, more ordo dockets

gaunt roost
void bison
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the change is only for people who don't

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unless you mean you bought super citizen after maxing steeled vets

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then you'd have to contact support for a warbond token when they're added

gloomy vine
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could some kind souls help me with Just A Flesh Wound? angle

craggy jackal
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That’s healing to max health gained with holy revenant yeah

gloomy vine
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Haha I sure wish!

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-# Help me. Please. This penance sucks.

craggy jackal
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Martyrdom time

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Does train work

gloomy vine
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rolling steel is the best for it yea

plush estuary
serene barn
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With piety should i use spearhead or flamethrower

acoustic dune
gloomy vine
craggy jackal
plush estuary
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well... about that

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I will need your fatshark code

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I have like 100 friend requests

gloomy vine
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OH

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LMAO

plush estuary
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yeah

gloomy vine
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2068428702

plush estuary
craggy jackal
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Actually I still need to knock that out too

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If there’s space

plush estuary
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yes

bitter anvil
plush estuary
gloomy vine
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still no 60 mob relic sword

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im gonna cry

craggy jackal
gloomy vine
bitter anvil
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@plush estuary im bored, may i join?

gloomy vine
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think i might try run n gun instead though

quick mountain
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daemonhosts are CC immune right? book doesn't stop them?

plush estuary
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book does

rocky gull
craggy jackal
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no mob

rose hawk
plush estuary
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its mobility

craggy jackal
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heat uptime is directly related to more damage

bitter anvil
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slapgryn funny

acoustic dune
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chat

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is this real

rose hawk
rocky gull
ripe quest
acoustic dune
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then blessing all in crit bleed

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wheres phill...

rocky gull
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ok then, daemonhosts are not cc immune then

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I know cause i tried it today in mortis

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unless it’s mortis exclusive

ripe quest
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They're just quite resistant. Was running a cavalcade boltgun w/ the 'all hits minor stagger' and it was staggering them.

serene barn
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i’ve been looking for 60 mobility relic blade all day haven’t gotten one

acoustic dune
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yeah thats the gif

craggy jackal
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imagine not having a 60 mob relic blade

serene barn
craggy jackal
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also why hammerblow on shock maul instead of high voltage

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high voltage just sounds like 20% free damage no

hollow girder
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-# the desire to play one of these just for a flammer is so darn high

ripe quest
craggy jackal
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yeah skullcrusher seemed like the anchor blessing

misty nova
craggy jackal
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have you considered running away

ripe quest
misty nova
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Oooooh

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The secret Joestar technique

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I'm not a Joestar though

hard nexus
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oh nvm ur joking lol

ripe quest
copper hawk
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GO TO BED

hard nexus
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it actually dumps every stat

ripe quest
copper hawk
copper hawk
analog ember
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fuck you game

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i'm still counting this as 1m damage

hard nexus
# analog ember

what’s the difference between actual damage and total damage

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in defense score and offense score respectively

twin wagon
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Overkill

analog ember
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i have no clue

plush estuary
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Big numbers

analog ember
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i only ever look at the actual damage

plush estuary
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Brain happy

analog ember
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yeah

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i'm taking the bigger number KEKW_ogryn

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i'm so rusty playing with zealot

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arbi has way too many get out of jail free cards

copper hawk
median steeple
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Alien

copper hawk
median steeple
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Me asf

sullen forge
median steeple
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Mayhaps

rose hawk
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I hate that whenever I kill a mosquito they fuckin blow up like a squib and shoot blood everywhere

median steeple
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Tetoslop

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Peak

jagged cradle
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i love teto

jagged cradle
plush estuary
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Didn't cica do a normal mode solo

jagged cradle
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i haven’t a clue that’s why i’m asking

rose hawk
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@misty nova what makes you say the 15 eviscerator is better than the 3

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I like them both but I feel like the 15 somehow manages to screw me over more

median steeple
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It's not the same without the Cyclops

rose hawk
copper hawk
jagged cradle
copper hawk
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It hard and fun

jagged cradle
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yeah it’s a lot funner than the slop missions

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we should play sometime

scarlet crag
median steeple
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God I love old edition models

muted pike
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Yall are not talking enough about the agni combat shotgun

gloomy vine
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cant post images so will go here @plush estuary

plush estuary
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I wonder if that's accurate at all

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Because the UI has always lied

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Screenshot the exp at the end of the mission and compare to other maps

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I can do that another day if you don't want to

gloomy vine
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welp

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couldn't

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we lost a rolling steel match because everyone ran to the other end of the cart to smash a horde while i was left on the captain boss at the end

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awesome

obsidian ore
plush estuary
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Nuh uh

sonic vessel
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How is the heavy eviscerator after buff

inner crane
sonic vessel
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Unfortunate

inner crane
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Maybe when zealot gets a talent rework is when the evis shines again

peak violet
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Anyone got a good build for stealth thunderhammer? Probably Martyrdom(?)

ripe quest
# peak violet Anyone got a good build for stealth thunderhammer? Probably Martyrdom(?)

This is the build template I use for stealth thammer. If you proc duelist you do not need Martyrdom to hit 1 shots, if you go Martyr you can take 3x toughness curios and still hit good breakpoints. 9 points to use for what you want, if you don't take blazing piety you can swap scourge to blood redemption and drop enduring faith incase you don't want to use shroudfield to bootstrap crits on the thammer. Thrust/Headtaker w/ Unyielding/Flak on the Thammer, I usually run it with a surgical boltpistol/revolver or an autogun.

peak violet
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Thank you. I don't know what half of those words mean, but I'll investigate thumbsup_ogryn

Which Thammer mark is the better one?

ripe quest
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With the Ironhelm though you can just use a push and then heavy to access the H3, it takes longer but is only 10% less damage iirc than Crucis.

peak violet
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Do the "damage taken" and "when you or ally take damage" nodes count for Toughness damage or health?

ripe quest
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And to be clear Restoring Faith's buff icon will just pop up if you take any hit, but it'll only properly work on health damage.

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so no regening health when taking toughness damage (though that'd be extremely funny)

peak violet
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Yeah, I thought as much. 60% DR on taking toughness damage as an aura seemed too good as well KEKW_ogryn

copper hawk
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Cleave is good

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Still buggy

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H2 doesnt have the right damage profile still

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One the evis 3

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H1 still does more damage

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It doesnt latch on all captain type enemies if theyre staggered

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Does very well against chaff now though and is super fast

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Cleave and cleave distro very good in normal gameplay

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Chaff killer supreme

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Oh, H2 doesn't stagger crushers now.. for some reason

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Rev'd or not

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Faster, buggier alternative to the relic in normal gameplay

sonic vessel
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so, generally good, useful for captains shields, but crap against crushers

misty nova
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Rev light interactions with bloodthirsty

sonic vessel
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so its a "use me with either fury, a bolter or brittleness on flamer" weapon, as always

misty nova
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Evis15 Rev heavy opens bulwarks

carmine falcon
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rev then hit a crusher then hit fotf

jagged cradle
copper hawk
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I do shred and ramp

copper hawk
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U can use IJ

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With the IoD dclaw build

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W a shred ramp evis 3

grizzled laurel
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what the least bad way to make thammer or shock maul work with chorus and invocation of death

copper hawk
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Can be sliiiightly quirky

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But u cant get away from iod..

copper hawk
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Uh idk

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Just do a normal piety stalwart build

grizzled laurel
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its for the aesthetic

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paladin needs a mace

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and a "heal"

copper hawk
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Ud probably be better of w the smaul than the thammer

grizzled laurel
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i guess crusher is also a mace

copper hawk
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Crusher isnt a crit wpn buuut

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U still need iod

grizzled laurel
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i dont think thammer or smaul are either

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i know

copper hawk
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Otherwise enjoy ur 60 second cooldown !

misty nova
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I mean

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Smaul has a finesse stat

grizzled laurel
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im not trying to carry h40s with this

misty nova
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Does it have good multipliers

grizzled laurel
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ok then smaul it is

misty nova
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Idk

copper hawk
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Just gnarpsneedies

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Shield and mace

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Better class by a longshot

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Better paladin lar0

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Larp

jagged cradle
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are you a larper cica

grizzled laurel
copper hawk
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Killing you

grizzled laurel
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paladin doesnt need metal rectangle

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when paper rectangle will do

misty nova
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Just tape an open book to your forehead

grizzled laurel
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heretic

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feel light of the emperor

misty nova
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SAP Cavalcade

grizzled laurel
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ye

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i like it

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inspiring would be thematic but i think pinning is worth the theme break

eternal apex
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Fellow Krumper in need of help.
Pick up a bully club from 'adron recently, Empra himself blessed it to Strike Perfect.
"When you crit, ignore armor hit (mass)".
Krot was impressed with emperor rhymes, but did not understand.
at lunch, Krot consult the Ogryn-Nomming-On, but he is not helpful - doesn't even read past "crit", tells me to swap it out.
Krot has had adventurous day, and yet Perfect Strike is still a mystery.
What does it actually do?

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ah, wrong channel, sorry lads, got lost

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enjoy your shouting

misty nova
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💀

misty nova
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Reduces mass

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Able to cleave past carapace

eternal apex
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sounds strong, much krumping

grizzled laurel
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i would guess that clubs have bad crit chance

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and so dont activate it consistently enough

misty nova
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Ogryn just has bad CRIT chance

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40 something CRIT chance at best

grizzled laurel
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oh you said stalwart

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hmm

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would free up a point for idk something

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maybe ranged damage instead

ivory marlin
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Hi zealot chat

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Oh i saw cicas name nvm bye zealot chat

misty nova
ebon bobcat
ivory marlin
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Cica scares me

ornate bone
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what are the blessing i wanna run on the newly reworked heavy evis?

mighty root
mighty root
acoustic dune
hushed knoll
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Why are you asking Lambda

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You have a brain

acoustic dune
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it look

hushed knoll
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Looks what?

acoustic dune
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edible

hushed knoll
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It’s grilled salmon, potatoes, and asparagus

acoustic dune
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idk how raw you made the salmon

slender wasp
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why does this dumb hat have to be so expensive. I WANT IT

misty nova
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Just go in debt and buy it

next tulip
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heavy eviscerator feels rlly good rn

analog ember
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which mark is better rn?

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i think 3 got a massive glowup

hushed knoll
next tulip
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both marks got the flat damage boost

hushed knoll
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I’ve never actually played with evis

misty nova
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15 has higher single target though

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Vroom vroom

analog ember
next tulip
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15 can also spam lights on hordes

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since its chain is just relentlessx3-vanguardx1

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which that light chain also got buffed

grizzled laurel
mighty root
misty nova
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But unsafe

analog ember
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that's pretty big if so considering how RB is already kinda overtuned

next tulip
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zealots kind of always been the boss killer yeah

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i was shredding monstrosities in havoc yesterday

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rb taking a backstep rn fr

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age of the eviscerator is back

misty nova
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But that's why I specified unsafe

analog ember
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ah makes sense

next tulip
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the rip damage on crit goes wild

grizzled laurel
analog ember
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is there a breakdown of the movesets for III?

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not seeing it in the guide

mighty root
carmine falcon
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imma check on the comments on this vid in like a day while eating popcorn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCu7QX473dQ

This havoc 40 game should take between 30 and 45 minutes but only took 15. We did this multiple times. How is this a video game? 2x Rumbler win button and 1x Mk3 deletgun? Why am I here? Just to reach the end of the map? Where's the gameplay? Yes - we don't have to voluntarily play this way. But if you're playing open games, especially in Aurics...

▶ Play video
grizzled laurel
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since its now only 1 point away if i take twbs

mighty root
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Guh

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Show da tree

carmine falcon
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good balance gud

mighty root
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It is

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But I wonder what was dropped

grizzled laurel
mighty root
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Ohh good good

grizzled laurel
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was asking if i drop another point somewhere to also get good balance

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or even anoint in blood instead

mighty root
grizzled laurel
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lol yeah

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i already had that build lol

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this one started a bit different and then ended up being a simple swap of good balance for book

acoustic dune
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are you colour blind

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most of your creation are raw

olive blaze
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Couldn't be related, surely? pepe_monkaHmm

hollow patio
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Why don't they just make Martyr % health based, it's so annoying having to bring those horrible 1 wound curios just for that one build

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Also idk if it's fixed, but I don't think you can ever get all the buffs, you miss 2 wounds

north sedge
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Nothing to fix, you just get one less wound pn heresy and above

acoustic dune
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marytydom convert all your wound

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into martydom stack

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aswell turing toughness into hp

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meaning you go down once

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you ded

mighty root
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Marty should give you dr instead of tdr

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That’d be cool

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Tac axe would go crazy

acoustic dune
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i argue that zealot

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need fisty cuff

mighty root
next tulip
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Only 700 more diamantine and my flamer is ready for havocs

oak lotus
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so how's the heavy eviscerator after the update?

runic grotto
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Still not sure about it's h40 viability

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But for normal aurics, it was always good and now it's great

oak lotus
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ah alright

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thanks

stoic estuary
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so whats the deal between the marks on the heavy evis? mk15 feels alot easier 2 use but i literally NEVER see it used

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is the other mark just way better and if so how

north sedge
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mk15 is the one most people use

vast basin
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They are both good, mk15 is just simpler to use

stoic estuary
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maybe a popular skin ig that looks like mk3

rose hawk
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Are eviscerator heavy attacks not worth it since you have the special?

vast basin
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Evis heavies are good

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Mk15 revved heavies can "onehit" crushers

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And mk3 horde clear includes the sweeping heavy

rose hawk
vast basin
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No it's because the revved heavy is multiple instances of damage

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You just need a Crit for it, doesnt need fotf

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It's why some people have the guaranteed Crit after special kill blessing

grizzled laurel
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this is why the term oneshot is better

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cuz it just means all in one go

rose hawk
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Idk I'm having some trouble using it into hordes of mixed specials cause sometimes I'm just unlucky with crits and I take too long killing one enemy

north sedge
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i'm not a fan of having to bloodthirsty trick things to get crusher kill

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just feels a little awkward

runic grotto
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I just use shred perfect strike

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Doesn't get easier than this

north sedge
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i just use chain axe if i'm gonna do a chain weapon

rose hawk
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It's probably not that bad if you actually pay attention or have the ui mod to keep track of it but I listen to music 90% of the time so I don't use bloodthirsty either tbh

rose hawk
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And then shred uhhhhh

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The one that does bonus damage for the mk15

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rampage thats the one

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Maybe I'll swap to perfect for the mk15 too cause it seems to be suffering a bit but idk

clever swan
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naruto would one shot

rose hawk
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How up to date is the zealot guide

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Cause the psyker one was pretty out of date when I looked at it iirc

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I think?

plush estuary
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It's up to date besides maybe evis perks

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But the current setup is fine

acoustic dune
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when did they add auric in the mortist trial

median steeple
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This update

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Do you read the forum posts

acoustic dune
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i go by vibe

misty nova
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Mk15 was the only good one

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But people rather shoot themselves in the foot than play mk15

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Now the update rolled over

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Mk3 got some well needed buffs

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And mk15 got some qols

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It's up to preference now

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Since mk3 isn't dog shit anymore

visual stream
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Helldivers making every single realistic part of gunplay except for the ones that would benefit you or be fun at all

acoustic dune
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helldiver?

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more like

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darktider

misty nova
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Hi it's me
John Helldivers

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Now on Xbox

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loud Helldivers theme.mp4

acoustic dune
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chat whom would win

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a spwace marine

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or a destroyer worth of helldiver

tight fog
lament blaze
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I do gotta admit, I find the gunplay in Helldivers 2 even less satisfying than in Arma

visual stream
visual stream
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Hi Stan

grizzled aspen
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And does the space marine get any backup at all?

acoustic dune
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and what do you mean by backup

hard nexus
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tbh

rose hawk
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Divers would probably win

acoustic dune
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for space marine

rose hawk
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There was a grey knight that got mogged by a bunch of feudal knights no?

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Died to spears and shit

hard nexus
grizzled aspen
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At all.

rose hawk
grizzled aspen
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One (1) tarantula turret, for example.

rose hawk
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Idk why I thought it was a grey knight

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In my head that's funnier though

hard nexus
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but marines in general are far less powerful than people tout them to be,

but it depends on the author as well

rose hawk
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Real knights 1 grey knights 0 type shit

hard nexus
acoustic dune
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whom would win

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jhon helldiver

hard nexus
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whomst

rose hawk
acoustic dune
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or jhom spacemarine

grizzled aspen
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Meow has still left my friend request on pending...

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So cruel...

rose hawk
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I read watchers of the throne and a custodian died to like 2 minotaurs which at first I thought was weird

hard nexus
rose hawk
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But then I realized that the custodian was just probably unlocky

rose hawk
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And the equivalent for me would be if I tripped and snapped my neck

acoustic dune
rose hawk
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Which is something that can happen so like I'm ok with that

rose hawk
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The minotaurs fucking folded him and broke his spine iirc

acoustic dune
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actually better question

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helldiver with democratic armor

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with the hellbomb backpack and a ultimatum

rose hawk
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Aren't helldiver's basically just like

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The equivalent to guard special forces

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But with more freedom

acoustic dune
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no...?

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they are more like

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zealot

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but having a hard on for democracy

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like they only have a 10 min training

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then frozen

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then drop in

rose hawk
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As unlikely as it is to be added

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Because of how unused they are in lore

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A chain glaive would be a cool ass weapon

north sedge
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helldivers are meant to be meat for the grinder

acoustic dune
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mind you

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its like those assassin in 40k

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send in drug up

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to krill anything in that area

north sedge
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not even elite, it's truly just grabbing jimmy freedom off the street and slapping a gun in his hand

heady rapids
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probably maybe

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current railgun wouldnt do shit

silver leaf
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Who’s your favorite zealot voice guys?

ornate bone
hard nexus
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it can kill a marine lol

heady rapids
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doesnt mean shit

silver leaf
heady rapids
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basic guns can penetrate it

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nowhere as close as ceramite

median steeple
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Regular ass guardsmen kill Marines on the daily

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With lasguns

heady rapids
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yeah if there's a barrage of lasguns you're obviously dying

median steeple
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But yeah a railgun could kill a marine

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They're not invincible lmao

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They die to random shit all the time

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That's the point of them to show that even superhumans are meat for the grinder in the galaxy

hard nexus
heady rapids
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yeah if you put them in unfavorable positions obviously

hard nexus
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a hotshot las gun can put down a marine lol

heady rapids
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on equal grounds you're never killing one

median steeple
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Battlefields are never equal that's the thing

drifting wolf
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what's this scenario again

ornate bone
drifting wolf
#

space marine vs 1 helldiver?

median steeple
#

A single dude could've taken out four Marines during a training exercise

misty nova
hard nexus
#

his name is slipping my mind but

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i know it starts with M

hard nexus
#

idk what the exact numbers are

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1 marine to 1 helldiver is just unfair

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but 4 helldivers to 1 marine

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and it’s entirely possible they kill that marine

silver leaf
hard nexus
violet hornet
#

Helldivers landing their hellpod on a marine after mistaking it for a teammate

hard nexus
#

lmfao

silver leaf
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I mean it’s funny but on a long mission it can grate

hard nexus
#

true

silver leaf
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I like the judge the best tbh. He’s got a lot of depth and unintentionally funny all the time

visual stream
#

Which is, kind of fucking funny

drifting wolf
rose hawk
#

One marine could defeat the entire US army

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And like if he was an alpha legionnaire with months of prep time maybe

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But on a full on confrontation hell no

median steeple
#

The training of certain guard regiments are insane and they can fuck up marines

high pilot
#

Do they just shoot weakpoints in the armor or can lasguns damage power armor

median steeple
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Weak points

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But marine armour has a lot of shot traps

misty nova
median steeple
#

Helguns can hurt power armoured enemies pretty consistently

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It's just they're expensive and only karskins, scions, and stormtroopers get them

misty nova
#

But can you beat Rogue Trader as the Guard

quiet heath
misty nova
#

Gonna give myself 15 party slots

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Then lots of custom characters

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Give them Lasguns and Chainswords

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Then the RT will be officer tactician

#

Orchestrated Firestorm will go hard

sick thunder
#

What's a good weapon for this penance

lament ruin
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Powersword (I mean relic blade assuming it’s a zealot penance)

north sedge
#

Anything but chainsword really

#

Chainsword rev just would be slow

quiet heath
#

Heavy Eviscerator or Relic Blade

north sedge
#

Relic blade fastest

quiet heath
lament ruin
#

Relic blade can onetap crushers with fotf in like .5 seconds so

misty nova
#

On a horde

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Spam it

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You'll get 6 kills

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Then 6

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Then 6

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Then 6

#

......

lament ruin
#

It’s elite and specials only

misty nova
#

Oh

hard nexus
misty nova
#

Then rev heavy

misty nova
hard nexus
#

i haven’t bothered testing

misty nova
#

Plus uninstalled on my PC

hard nexus
#

lmfao

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i’ll try to remember to check when i get home

lament ruin
#

Relic blade prob easiest imo. Look at crusher get the uppercut heavy ready press fotf crusher gets oneshot (in aurics)

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Or just spam hordeclear combo into rager packs

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Very safe

misty nova
#

I needed the room for Astroneer

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"Powered melee attacks (chain or psword)"

lament ruin
#

Relic blade is indeed a power weapon

drifting wolf
#

those who explode

misty nova
#

Crusher erasure is crazy

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Hammer erasure is crazy

hard nexus
lament ruin
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I enjoy both but neither kill the non carapace elites as quickly

lapis cave
#

never done havoc.

I love the relic blade and a more aggressive play style, and dislike the flamer.

Are there any proven non-flamer, relic blade focused builds recommended by the community here? Currently favor Piety + knives with relic and boltgun.

violet hornet
#

Marty crucis can one tap most on a light headshot, probably need active light for ragers tho

lament ruin
#

Thunderhammer isn’t anywhere near as safe as a relic blade

misty nova
hard nexus
#

that’s really the only other build you’d get recommended

misty nova
lapis cave
#

what are the changes to relic traits/blessings for havoc?

violet hornet
lament ruin
#

Probably more cleave with increased hitmass

hard nexus
#

probably wrath rampage

lapis cave
#

got this:

hard nexus
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that’s what u want

#

might wanna swap unyielding but idk what to

lapis cave
#

Elites?

hard nexus
#

flak or maniac or elites

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just check what horde clear BPs you meet against elites

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as in

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horde clear combo

rose hawk
#

He then got ripped in half but it was pretty impressive

lapis cave
#

FotF isn't workable in Havoc? Or is it just that the support from Relic is too important to pass up?

median steeple
#

I mean Lucifers are like the peak of semi normal humans

misty nova
#

Cranial + Wrath

median steeple
#

They're probably augmented in a way that karskins are

visual stream
#

Bloodthirsty not synergizing with bloodletter

median steeple
#

Just better training and gear

visual stream
#

Sadgety

hard nexus
#

the main draw of relic is boss stagger and golden toughness due to shooters

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chastise can just dive the shooters

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and kill bosses quicker

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but it has a higher skill ceiling compared just pressing F and walking around

lapis cave
visual stream
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The one thing that blows is when the shooters have a wide area to spread out

hard nexus
visual stream
#

The moment I dive shooters and see six of them go in different directions, I have just a small aneurysm

hard nexus
#

rampage is more consistent damage

hard nexus
#

or just tknife them

#

i love using tknives on chaff enemies

visual stream
#

It always feels like such a waste to bolter trash shooters, even if just a single one of them instantly shreds my toughness if allowed to

#

The suppression is quite nice though

lapis cave
#

puncture + shatt impact on boltgun?

misty nova
hard nexus
hard nexus
#

you’ll proc it easily

visual stream
#

Especially powered

misty nova
hard nexus
visual stream
#

Is that not a decently meta combo on relic

misty nova
#

What a combo

#

What havoc does to a muhfuh

lapis cave
#

also have a bolt pistol, is that preferred due to faster draw speed?

visual stream
#

Cleave more, and get even more cleave plus 36% more damage in return for cleaving, on the cleave-oriented weapon

lapis cave
#

I noticed that the throwing knife draw animation cancel doesn't seem to be working on the bolt gun anymore

obsidian prairie
misty nova
#

And not only damage

#

Cleave and stagger

#

As well

#

Because rampage is strength

#

FS forgot to update tooltip

visual stream
#

I thought it was only cleave and damage that rampage gave, not strength overall

#

Forgor

lapis cave
#

beacon vs benediction?

visual stream
#

Beacon good in higher havocs, benediction is just always better everywhere else

lapis cave
#

thy wrath be swift still a good grab?

#

or did they fix it

visual stream
#

Depends on weapon

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If slow, especially with thammer, take it

#

If not, you can live without it

#

Grab Anoint and PtU with the two spare points

ripe quest
ripe quest
grave cypress
#

wow no funny cat gifs in quite a while here

#

Looks like I stepped into boring ass Veteran chat for a moment

lapis cave
#

thanks for the all advice, appreciated

misty nova
#

A groaner is 4.8 mass

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And they'll pile up with even thicker enemies

#

Fuck, my internet is bad today

misty nova
#

A groaner has 1.25 times 3.2 from havoc which then is 4

#

I remember when groaners were 1 mass

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They should bring back the 21st to havoc

#

Unironically fun horde

rose hawk
#

Why does your pfp keep changing

ripe quest
# misty nova At havoc

If you have Wrath you'll be proccing rampage on basically anything that isn't an Ogryn crowd. On activated attacks you can still proc rampage by default into horde fodder.

misty nova
#

Yeah but wrath

ripe quest
#

also what's 10.5/4.8 rounded up AnimeThinking

misty nova
ripe quest
rose hawk
#

Do you guys think they'll try to release the plasma gun nerfs around the same time they rework vet

ripe quest
#

It'll probably be independent. Seems like it wasn't released yet due to them wanting to work on the nerfs a bit more.

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(especially now that people know it'll be nerfed and roughly how they wanted to do so)

ripe quest
#

lmao

misty nova
#

Wdym

#

😭

rose hawk
#

Hopefully nerfing the primary fire will also lead to them buffing the secondary fire a bunch

ripe quest
#

you sent all of your messages in like 1 second due to your internet

misty nova
#

I ain't doing this on Purpose Hadron

#

Come back here

ripe quest
misty nova
#

The cleave changes they drafted suck ngl

rose hawk
#

Hadron does not care she will flay you anyways

#

Nvm my internets also dying

misty nova
#

Afaik plasma has one attack template
Just different charge levels
So cleave changes affect the entire weapon

ripe quest
north sedge
#

They should do whatever change will anger people more (literally anything seen as a nerf)

misty nova
#

They drafted changes and already angered people

ripe quest
rose hawk
ripe quest
#

It's basically just a stronger primary shot but on Vet you can juice the plasma damage to only need it for like, Crushers? Sometimes? It's not utilized much.

misty nova
ripe quest
misty nova
#

Another trolling by Fatshark

ripe quest
#

be ye the plasma changes will be cool. You'll have a """fast""" special/elite popper on the primary and the 100 cleave uber destroyer gun on the secondary.

misty nova
#

Sounds like

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Nothing really changed

#

Nothing ever happens

#

🗣️

ember loom
#

quick question. I am looking at the compendia and online builds and they seem to have diff info on whether crit or not is good on relic blade. What is the current setup for this weapon?

violet hornet
#

Crit relic blade works well but has no blessing support, the cool down reduction from talents and its innate crit / cleave makes it work anyways. You can take it or leave it but I'd recommend trying it

#

I started on a standard "the build" with IJ and without crit, ended up switching to crit + piety after trying it out

ember loom
#

thanks. Im currently trying out the right side of the tree with blades of faith running into piety

#

do you take crit chance for weapon perk?

violet hornet
#

Honestly it works great with many weapons there's a short list of those that don't

misty nova
#

Almost never

ember loom
#

haven't played since they released havoc

#

so I am surprised to see nothing really changed for zealot

#

was hoping for a talent tree rework like the ogryns got

violet hornet
#

I would skip the crit chance for relic blade, I don't think it relies on needing a high crit rate beyond what comes from the tree

misty nova
#

🗣️

violet hornet
misty nova
#

There are rumors of a rework

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Soon™

ember loom
#

vet already got one but well...

#

their's was much more needed

violet hornet
#

I assume that's fatshark soon and not ordinary soon

#

Yeah they got their tree with no keystones so they definitely needed it lol

ember loom
#

been playing the arbites class and I can't tell if that class is too strong or vet/zealot are just that weak in comparison

#

havent done havoc 40 so idk what's good anymore

worldly agate
#

is 5% toughness reduction/10% max health better than blood redemption

#

idk what to spend my last point on

misty nova
#

Zealot is not weaker than Arby's

plush estuary
#

hard mode solo

misty nova
#

There was what

violet hornet
misty nova
#

Just go with Blood Redemption

worldly agate
#

I dont have let they wrath be swift or dance of death though

#

I also have Disdain and Sustained Assault

misty nova
#

10% tg on melee kills

worldly agate
worldly agate
#

literally the choice is between 5% tough/10% health or blood redemption

violet hornet
#

As long as you can dodge reliably

worldly agate
#

I use chain axe cause I'm evil

violet hornet
#

Dance of death is great on braced auto and probably auto pistol but anything else can likely skip it and just ads

#

Which chaxe mark are you using?

signal spoke
worldly agate
clever swan
#

damn I kinda vaguely wanted to try Anthem one day

worldly agate
#

mk iv

violet hornet
plush estuary
violet hornet
worldly agate
#

also I had a bug once on zealot rhere the game ate my last 2 talent points

#

it didnt show up as I had the perks but I spent the points

#

and had to reput them all in

violet hornet
#

Wow that's bad lmao I don't think I've seen that before

worldly agate
#

ima just go with epic blood redemption win

worldly agate
violet hornet
violet hornet
visual stream
#

Holy peak

misty nova
#

Schrodinger's rev attack

worldly agate
#

Is a 20% max health curio good

median steeple
#

Sweet skg hit 1mil

brazen stag
#

Is there a collateral threshold to open bulwarks with the bolt pistol, or is it better to keep as low as possible like with the recon lasgun? I have one at 34% with the other 4 at 80%.

worldly agate
#

Always dump mobility on Guns

median steeple
#

Unless it's a bolter

#

Then dump collat

plush estuary
#

@gloomy vine

gloomy vine
#

huh

plush estuary
#

am dying

gloomy vine
#

whys it on na west

plush estuary
#

thats where I am

#

its usually only 60-80

gloomy vine
#

oh god

#

is it your net or is it servers

plush estuary
#

idk

gloomy vine
#

if its servers i am cooked

clever swan
#

average darktide experience

long oasis
#

the servers are fine

violet hornet
stray summit
stray summit
misty nova
#

I blame Arby's

#

All these dog mathematics

long oasis
#

dogs cant do math silly

mighty root
twilit dirge
#

is flamer any good

median steeple
#

yea

mighty root
lament ruin
#

infinite cleave dot stacking weapon

rose hawk
#

Is flamer hot

#

Can I make love to the flamer

plush estuary
mighty root
median steeple
plush estuary
median steeple
#

we are so back

worldly agate
#

How come I cant get past heresy difficulty after the new update

#

They changed it and made you play 5 matches of each difficulty I thought

#

but my progress isnt going up

median steeple
#

you're doing missions from the board on heresy right?

#

oops

worldly agate
#

I was just spamming quickplay heresy missions

#

it was working on arbites

median steeple
#

Very odd

#

I assume you haven't failed any?

long oasis
#

cringe

grizzled aspen
#

This is the most based image in the game. (probably)

long oasis
#

plasma isnt getting a nerf because its too strong

#

its getting a nerf because vet is large fish's least favorite class

hushed knoll
misty mason
#

Has anyone played around with stacking Zealots crazy TDR potential with Arby's shared TDR?

misty nova
#

Shoo

#

Shoo

#

Go away

misty mason
#

50% TDR on crit for 4s, 25% TDR while Fury is active, 15% TDR from beneditction aura, three TDR nodes 15% all from Zealot. Add in 7.5% from dog aura, and 20% shared TDR for 5s on pounced kill

visual stream
#

Pretty sure DRs stack multiplicatively so there are diminishing returns

misty mason
#

Ohhhh boo

misty nova
#

25% from fury

#

Wack

#

40+ from martyrdom

visual stream
#

Can't really reach 100% to my knowledge, could be wrong though

misty mason
misty nova
#

Nuh uh

#

Bloodthirsty Eviscerator

misty mason
#

Yeah that would work

#

Right so with all this:
50% TDR on crit for 4s, 25% TDR while Fury is active, 15% TDR from beneditction aura, three TDR nodes 15% all from Zealot. Add in 7.5% from dog aura, and 20% shared TDR for 5s on pounced kill
A 100 damage hit should do about 20 damage

gaunt roost
stray summit
misty mason
#

At least according to my limited math ability

gaunt roost
stray summit
#

yeha but some people don't wanna

#

buying stuff is universal

misty mason
#

Hm. Does anyone know how damage reduction interacts with TDR?

#

Like, if you have 50% damage reduction, would you take 50 damage, which is then reduced by TDR?

long oasis
#

I got it to 16 and now im playing mortis trials for the brahms lines

hushed knoll
full nebula
gloomy vine
#

hi chat

#

what perks for relic blade

mighty root
gloomy vine
#

don't care

#

i'm asking chat

mighty root
#

Dump damage

full nebula
mighty root
#

Infest

gloomy vine
#

I agree

#

Why +flak on relic blade

#

Why not cara

#

I would like to be enlightened