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niche internet microcelebrity
that your first time getting recognized lmao
It's to make it so that people can get a free warbond in the case that they already have steeled veterans and purchase the deluxe edition, which comes with steeled veterans already. Prior it was a thing where you needed to create a support ticket to get 1k super credits, but this'll automate the process.
It's to make it so that people can get a free warbond in the case that they already have steeled veterans and purchase the deluxe edition, which comes with steeled veterans already. Prior it was a thing where you needed to create a support ticket to get 1k super credits, but this'll automate the process.
Also just makes it so that in the future people aren't locked into just getting steeled vets
crazy
piety vs IJ for knife?
also wow the mk6 is nice
dont have to break my finger mashing lights
Knife is a finesse weapon
Run either and see what you like. IJ's dodge buffs are really funny on already good dodge weapons. Piety gives more crits, you don't need it to maintain enduring faith or crit CDR. Can take Stalwart.
I feel like shred in almost every way is better than bloodthirsty no?
Especially for like fighting a boss
what blessings for bolt pistol
puncture seems pretty solid so that seems like one i'll take
but for the second one i'm torn on lethal or run n gun
Puncture and surgical typically
I think back when the bolt pistol got buffed lethal proximity became more viable?
Execution can also be good
I think
Depends on the weapon. Bloodthirsty is usually used for chaining 1 shots on stuff like Crushers. Shred is kinda just more general use.
Im using eviscerator is it also an option for other chain weapons
I don't really like the other chain weapons as much
So with bloodthirsty you have to be more conscious when using it I guess
That's what I was doing and it seemed pretty chill
But idk I feel like shred would overall be better for me
Unless you're going piety
Then go shred instead of bt
Idk the eviscerator sometimes feels absolutely amazing and does insane damage and then other times it takes like 3-4 hits to kill a fodder enemy and I'm like uhhh
I've kinda been dick riding piety I think I'll only ever use book in havoc and shroud field like
Never
Oh wait no I got that wrong
I've been dick riding piety I don't think I'll use martyrdom or the other keystone like ever
Pretty much it. Though w/ Eviscerators it's neat for cleave attacks.
Also I'm probably staying the obvious
But if you go piety perfect strike is just better than savage sweep in every conceivable way yes?
what if i already maxed out steeled veterans
then the game will do this
prob
do you have the super citizen edition
If you were to have 100% crit chance yeah. Also with some weapons Wrath is better, mainly just due to SS and Rampage not proccing if you ever execute an attack that doesn't cleave 3 targets (pops up in Havoc). Perfect Strike sometimes has bad moments where you aren't proccing it a few times and it's annoying.
Makes sense
Yo, could I get your opinion on a build? I'm trying to make Heavy Evis work but it just don't feel right still
Just use cyns build
Cyns?
This
What about the other 2 curios?
Same thing
And the perks? I assume it's not gonna be 3x Gunner res
All the same
3x gunner res is good
Lets you ignore them more for focusing other stuff
And prevents getting beamed
The minor perks are whatever you feel like running
Good ones are more toughness more health faster stam regen and resist against ranged enemies
Or if you are playing something that doesn’t require a min maxxed build, more ordo dockets
yes
the change is only for people who don't
unless you mean you bought super citizen after maxing steeled vets
then you'd have to contact support for a warbond token when they're added
could some kind souls help me with Just A Flesh Wound? 
That’s healing to max health gained with holy revenant yeah
rolling steel is the best for it yea
I can help. just need your fatshark code
With piety should i use spearhead or flamethrower
and the funny number on their credit card?
i'll send you a friend req ingame
Both are good
well... about that
I will need your fatshark code
I have like 100 friend requests
yeah
2068428702
yes
because your godplay come consequences like being celebrity
need fatshark code
yea 1 sec
at least i got a good bolt pistol
@plush estuary im bored, may i join?
think i might try run n gun instead though
daemonhosts are CC immune right? book doesn't stop them?
book does
isn’t relic’s dump stat heat management though since it doesn’t kill you if it overheats?
no mob
@gloomy vine
You get more up time for your charge though
its mobility
heat uptime is directly related to more damage
slapgryn funny
You can one shot the daemonhost if you say its true name 
what do you mean “book”
Relic blade dumps damage 🙂
Chorus, the middle Zealot ult.
dump damage knife
then blessing all in crit bleed
wheres phill...
ok then, daemonhosts are not cc immune then
I know cause i tried it today in mortis
unless it’s mortis exclusive
They're just quite resistant. Was running a cavalcade boltgun w/ the 'all hits minor stagger' and it was staggering them.
i’ve been looking for 60 mobility relic blade all day haven’t gotten one
yeah thats the gif
HORSE GAL
imagine not having a 60 mob relic blade
sigh
also why hammerblow on shock maul instead of high voltage
high voltage just sounds like 20% free damage no
-# the desire to play one of these just for a flammer is so darn high
Skullcrusher is the main damage blessing, it's reliant on staggering enemies to apply so a +impact blessing is recommended. However, you sometimes really just don't need it. High Voltage and Opportunist are both quite handy in addition to Skullcrusher.
yeah skullcrusher seemed like the anchor blessing
Ability to break ragers out of their combos
have you considered running away
For scab ragers you can just grab hammer/grievous. Dreg ragers require both though so that's not worth it (just shoot them)
What's that
Oooooh
The secret Joestar technique
I'm not a Joestar though
Of course, only weapon that dumps damage is dueling sword
this is true
GO TO BED
it actually dumps every stat
what’s the difference between actual damage and total damage
in defense score and offense score respectively
Overkill
i have no clue
Big numbers
i only ever look at the actual damage
Brain happy
yeah
i'm taking the bigger number 
i'm so rusty playing with zealot
arbi has way too many get out of jail free cards
Alien
Me asf
fym you asf, that is you
I hate that whenever I kill a mosquito they fuckin blow up like a squib and shoot blood everywhere
@copper hawk
peak
Teto apearcalypse
have you played hoard mode yet on slop marines
Didn't cica do a normal mode solo
i haven’t a clue that’s why i’m asking
@misty nova what makes you say the 15 eviscerator is better than the 3
I like them both but I feel like the 15 somehow manages to screw me over more
It's not the same without the Cyclops
Ye
how do feel about it
It hard and fun
God I love old edition models
Yall are not talking enough about the agni combat shotgun
I wonder if that's accurate at all
Because the UI has always lied
Screenshot the exp at the end of the mission and compare to other maps
I can do that another day if you don't want to
welp
couldn't
we lost a rolling steel match because everyone ran to the other end of the cart to smash a horde while i was left on the captain boss at the end
awesome
my Fatshark UI would never lie
Nuh uh
fatshark always displays useful info correctly
women
implode
How is the heavy eviscerator after buff
Slightly better, but in the same meh territory compared to relic blade. Still has trouble with carapace mobs.
Unfortunate
Maybe when zealot gets a talent rework is when the evis shines again
Anyone got a good build for stealth thunderhammer? Probably Martyrdom(?)
This is the build template I use for stealth thammer. If you proc duelist you do not need Martyrdom to hit 1 shots, if you go Martyr you can take 3x toughness curios and still hit good breakpoints. 9 points to use for what you want, if you don't take blazing piety you can swap scourge to blood redemption and drop enduring faith incase you don't want to use shroudfield to bootstrap crits on the thammer. Thrust/Headtaker w/ Unyielding/Flak on the Thammer, I usually run it with a surgical boltpistol/revolver or an autogun.
Thank you. I don't know what half of those words mean, but I'll investigate 
Which Thammer mark is the better one?
Crucis' special attack hits harder, Ironhelm's special attack does less damage but has significant cleave allowing it to have better crowd damage and ease of use in mixed hordes.
With the Ironhelm though you can just use a push and then heavy to access the H3, it takes longer but is only 10% less damage iirc than Crucis.
Do the "damage taken" and "when you or ally take damage" nodes count for Toughness damage or health?
Restoring Faith will only restore health, but procs on taking any damage. Shield of Contempt only procs on health damage taken. Thy Wrath be Swift procs on any damage taken. The Master's Retribution procs on any melee damage taken.
And to be clear Restoring Faith's buff icon will just pop up if you take any hit, but it'll only properly work on health damage.
so no regening health when taking toughness damage (though that'd be extremely funny)
Yeah, I thought as much. 60% DR on taking toughness damage as an aura seemed too good as well 
Good
Cleave is good
Still buggy
H2 doesnt have the right damage profile still
One the evis 3
H1 still does more damage
It doesnt latch on all captain type enemies if theyre staggered
Does very well against chaff now though and is super fast
Cleave and cleave distro very good in normal gameplay
Chaff killer supreme
Oh, H2 doesn't stagger crushers now.. for some reason
Rev'd or not
Faster, buggier alternative to the relic in normal gameplay
Higher rev damage
so, generally good, useful for captains shields, but crap against crushers
Rev light interactions with bloodthirsty
so its a "use me with either fury, a bolter or brittleness on flamer" weapon, as always
Evis15 Rev heavy opens bulwarks
Revolver too
it kills crushers too
rev then hit a crusher then hit fotf
can i get quirky with the perks or is ps shred still optimal
I do shred and ramp
Uh
U can use IJ
With the IoD dclaw build
W a shred ramp evis 3
what the least bad way to make thammer or shock maul work with chorus and invocation of death
Autopistol with Cavalcade
Probably the ... worst weapons to pair w chorus
Uh idk
Just do a normal piety stalwart build
Ud probably be better of w the smaul than the thammer
i guess crusher is also a mace
Otherwise enjoy ur 60 second cooldown !
im not trying to carry h40s with this
Does it have good multipliers
ok then smaul it is
Just gnarpsneedies
Shield and mace
Better class by a longshot
Better paladin lar0
Larp
are you a larper cica
p2w 
Killing you
also shield in offhand instead of magic book is crinch
paladin doesnt need metal rectangle
when paper rectangle will do
Just tape an open book to your forehead
I just threw up
SAP Cavalcade
ye
i like it
inspiring would be thematic but i think pinning is worth the theme break
Fellow Krumper in need of help.
Pick up a bully club from 'adron recently, Empra himself blessed it to Strike Perfect.
"When you crit, ignore armor hit (mass)".
Krot was impressed with emperor rhymes, but did not understand.
at lunch, Krot consult the Ogryn-Nomming-On, but he is not helpful - doesn't even read past "crit", tells me to swap it out.
Krot has had adventurous day, and yet Perfect Strike is still a mystery.
What does it actually do?
ah, wrong channel, sorry lads, got lost
enjoy your shouting
💀
On crit
Reduces mass
Able to cleave past carapace
sounds strong, much krumping
i would guess that clubs have bad crit chance
and so dont activate it consistently enough
?
oh you said stalwart
hmm
would free up a point for idk something
maybe ranged damage instead

Thats the best response to seeing a freak
Cica scares me
what are the blessing i wanna run on the newly reworked heavy evis?
I’d drop Pious cutthroat for thy wrath be swift
I do shred perfect strike with elites and flak
@solar gorge thought?
Looks what?
edible
It’s grilled salmon, potatoes, and asparagus
i said look
idk how raw you made the salmon
why does this dumb hat have to be so expensive. I WANT IT
Just go in debt and buy it
heavy eviscerator feels rlly good rn
why would I cook anything raw
it did but i still like mk 15s move set
both marks got the flat damage boost
I’ve never actually played with evis
Up to preference
15 has higher single target though
Vroom vroom
better than RB? 
15 can also spam lights on hordes
since its chain is just relentlessx3-vanguardx1
which that light chain also got buffed
is good balance worth dropping something for then?
Yes
Oh yeah if you take book then you’re a point short but yes I would
But unsafe
i was just memeing... but seriously?
that's pretty big if so considering how RB is already kinda overtuned
zealots kind of always been the boss killer yeah
i was shredding monstrosities in havoc yesterday
rb taking a backstep rn fr
age of the eviscerator is back
Those Rev heavies hurt
But that's why I specified unsafe
ah makes sense
Bacon
the rip damage on crit goes wild
drop second wind or enduring faith? im assuming not one of the 3 damage talents
No don’t drop those at all
Just take out good balance for twbs
imma check on the comments on this vid in like a day while eating popcorn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCu7QX473dQ
This havoc 40 game should take between 30 and 45 minutes but only took 15. We did this multiple times. How is this a video game? 2x Rumbler win button and 1x Mk3 deletgun? Why am I here? Just to reach the end of the map? Where's the gameplay? Yes - we don't have to voluntarily play this way. But if you're playing open games, especially in Aurics...
i was asking if i add good balance
since its now only 1 point away if i take twbs
good balance gud
this but i swapped pious for twbs
Ohh good good
was asking if i drop another point somewhere to also get good balance
or even anoint in blood instead
Nah book should keep you up, if you take fury you can get good balance
lol yeah
i already had that build lol
this one started a bit different and then ended up being a simple swap of good balance for book
have
are you colour blind
most of your creation are raw
Couldn't be related, surely? 
Me when im low on mats
Why don't they just make Martyr % health based, it's so annoying having to bring those horrible 1 wound curios just for that one build
Also idk if it's fixed, but I don't think you can ever get all the buffs, you miss 2 wounds
Nothing to fix, you just get one less wound pn heresy and above
ok chat hear me out
marytydom convert all your wound
into martydom stack
aswell turing toughness into hp
meaning you go down once
you ded

Only 700 more diamantine and my flamer is ready for havocs
so how's the heavy eviscerator after the update?
Still not sure about it's h40 viability
But for normal aurics, it was always good and now it's great
so whats the deal between the marks on the heavy evis? mk15 feels alot easier 2 use but i literally NEVER see it used
is the other mark just way better and if so how
mk15 is the one most people use
They are both good, mk15 is just simpler to use
the lastl like 10 zealots ive seen are using mk3
maybe a popular skin ig that looks like mk3
Are eviscerator heavy attacks not worth it since you have the special?
Evis heavies are good
Mk15 revved heavies can "onehit" crushers
And mk3 horde clear includes the sweeping heavy
Is onehit in quotes cause you have to use fotf
No it's because the revved heavy is multiple instances of damage
You just need a Crit for it, doesnt need fotf
It's why some people have the guaranteed Crit after special kill blessing
I used that at first but then I realized I wasn't really keeping track of when I had it so I switched to shred instead
Idk I'm having some trouble using it into hordes of mixed specials cause sometimes I'm just unlucky with crits and I take too long killing one enemy
i'm not a fan of having to bloodthirsty trick things to get crusher kill
just feels a little awkward
i just use chain axe if i'm gonna do a chain weapon
It's probably not that bad if you actually pay attention or have the ui mod to keep track of it but I listen to music 90% of the time so I don't use bloodthirsty either tbh
I've been using perfect strike shred for the mk3
And then shred uhhhhh
The one that does bonus damage for the mk15
rampage thats the one
Maybe I'll swap to perfect for the mk15 too cause it seems to be suffering a bit but idk
naruto would one shot
How up to date is the zealot guide
Cause the psyker one was pretty out of date when I looked at it iirc
I think?
Up until the recent mk3 buffs
Mk15 was the only good one
But people rather shoot themselves in the foot than play mk15
Now the update rolled over
Mk3 got some well needed buffs
And mk15 got some qols
It's up to preference now
Since mk3 isn't dog shit anymore
Helldivers making every single realistic part of gunplay except for the ones that would benefit you or be fun at all

only one that looks like ther actual mk15 is the mastery skin, the others look like mk3, so maybe
I do gotta admit, I find the gunplay in Helldivers 2 even less satisfying than in Arma
Out of 4 spawns plus 20 reinforcements, surely eventually one can land a single 500kg
the ultimatum
Hi leggy bird
Hi Stan
Do the divers get stratagems or no?
And does the space marine get any backup at all?
thats the whole point of divers
and what do you mean by backup
Divers would probably win
for space marine
There was a grey knight that got mogged by a bunch of feudal knights no?
Died to spears and shit
it was a chaos marine i believe
Damn chaos taking Ls
One (1) tarantula turret, for example.
but marines in general are far less powerful than people tout them to be,
but it depends on the author as well
Real knights 1 grey knights 0 type shit
kid named basically any stratagem
ok a better question
whom would win
jhon helldiver
whomst
Yeah but also sometimes they do also just make mistakes that cost them their lives which I think is good
or jhom spacemarine
yah
I read watchers of the throne and a custodian died to like 2 minotaurs which at first I thought was weird
But then I realized that the custodian was just probably unlocky
common grey knight l
And the equivalent for me would be if I tripped and snapped my neck
a lamenter was prob nearby
Which is something that can happen so like I'm ok with that
Damn that lamenter literally gave that custodian such a painful death too
The minotaurs fucking folded him and broke his spine iirc
actually better question
helldiver with democratic armor
with the hellbomb backpack and a ultimatum
Aren't helldiver's basically just like
The equivalent to guard special forces
But with more freedom
no...?
they are more like
zealot
but having a hard on for democracy
like they only have a 10 min training
then frozen
then drop in
As unlikely as it is to be added
Because of how unused they are in lore
A chain glaive would be a cool ass weapon
helldivers are meant to be meat for the grinder
elite meat
mind you
its like those assassin in 40k
send in drug up
to krill anything in that area
not even elite, it's truly just grabbing jimmy freedom off the street and slapping a gun in his hand
only if it was release ps5 bugged railgun
probably maybe
current railgun wouldnt do shit
Who’s your favorite zealot voice guys?
Female judge by far!
it can kill hulks with one shot
it can kill a marine lol
She’s not bad but I heard female fanatic for the first time in a long time the other day and forgot how good it is
yeah if there's a barrage of lasguns you're obviously dying
But yeah a railgun could kill a marine
They're not invincible lmao
They die to random shit all the time
That's the point of them to show that even superhumans are meat for the grinder in the galaxy
“basic” guns can kill marines
yeah if you put them in unfavorable positions obviously
a hotshot las gun can put down a marine lol
on equal grounds you're never killing one
Battlefields are never equal that's the thing
what's this scenario again
I run two zealots, and my second is female fanatic! If it’s the Scottish woman she’s my other fav!
space marine vs 1 helldiver?
A single dude could've taken out four Marines during a training exercise
Fem Agitator
my beloved
his name is slipping my mind but
i know it starts with M
hes trying to argue that space marines would stomp helldivers
idk what the exact numbers are
1 marine to 1 helldiver is just unfair
but 4 helldivers to 1 marine
and it’s entirely possible they kill that marine
Lmao no I get grated by her stuffy accent
fem fanatic
Helldivers landing their hellpod on a marine after mistaking it for a teammate
lmfao
I mean it’s funny but on a long mission it can grate
true
I like how reactive it is to what’s going on
I like the judge the best tbh. He’s got a lot of depth and unintentionally funny all the time
One marine died to a normal guy with a spear
Which is, kind of fucking funny
Deadass?
yeah that's pretty funny but i'm still probably betting on the marine for this one. not to say it's impossible for the helldivers to dispatch one, i just don't see it being an easy fight
I remember some guy being like
One marine could defeat the entire US army
And like if he was an alpha legionnaire with months of prep time maybe
But on a full on confrontation hell no
Yes they're not invincible and it's one of the reasons cadia lasted as long as it did
The training of certain guard regiments are insane and they can fuck up marines
Do they just shoot weakpoints in the armor or can lasguns damage power armor
You'll need lots of Lasguns to hurt power armor
Helguns can hurt power armoured enemies pretty consistently
It's just they're expensive and only karskins, scions, and stormtroopers get them
But can you beat Rogue Trader as the Guard
It isn't, the planet is Atoma Prime, the sector is the Moebian Domain
Not to mention the Nekthyst Dynasty are in Ultima Segmentum and Atoma is in Segmentum Solar
Gonna give myself 15 party slots
Then lots of custom characters
Give them Lasguns and Chainswords
Then the RT will be officer tactician
Orchestrated Firestorm will go hard
What's a good weapon for this penance
Powersword (I mean relic blade assuming it’s a zealot penance)
Heavy Eviscerator or Relic Blade
Relic blade fastest
You can one-shot Crushers with a Heavy Evis if you rev then fire chastise during the attack
Relic blade can onetap crushers with fotf in like .5 seconds so
Bloodthirsty Evis15
Rev light
On a horde
Spam it
You'll get 6 kills
Then 6
Then 6
Then 6
......
It’s elite and specials only
Oh
it might be more now due to no damage caps
Then rev heavy
Didn't have time to test
i haven’t bothered testing
Plus uninstalled on my PC
Relic blade prob easiest imo. Look at crusher get the uppercut heavy ready press fotf crusher gets oneshot (in aurics)
Or just spam hordeclear combo into rager packs
Very safe
Relic blade is indeed a power weapon
those who explode
those who know
I enjoy both but neither kill the non carapace elites as quickly
never done havoc.
I love the relic blade and a more aggressive play style, and dislike the flamer.
Are there any proven non-flamer, relic blade focused builds recommended by the community here? Currently favor Piety + knives with relic and boltgun.
Marty crucis can one tap most on a light headshot, probably need active light for ragers tho
piety relic bolter is fine
Thunderhammer isn’t anywhere near as safe as a relic blade
You don't really take flamer with Relic Blade
that’s really the only other build you’d get recommended

what are the changes to relic traits/blessings for havoc?
I used to for old havoc but only for bulwark hate 
Probably more cleave with increased hitmass
wrath cranial or wrath rampage
probably wrath rampage
got this:
yarp
that’s what u want
might wanna swap unyielding but idk what to
Elites?
flak or maniac or elites
just check what horde clear BPs you meet against elites
as in
horde clear combo
There was a Lucifer black that managed to stab alpharius in a duel once
He then got ripped in half but it was pretty impressive
FotF isn't workable in Havoc? Or is it just that the support from Relic is too important to pass up?
I mean Lucifers are like the peak of semi normal humans
Cranial + Wrath
They're probably augmented in a way that karskins are
Bloodthirsty not synergizing with bloodletter
Just better training and gear
Sadgety
i only run chastise in havoc, relic support just makes havoc easier, but a good chastise player can be just as good
the main draw of relic is boss stagger and golden toughness due to shooters
chastise can just dive the shooters
and kill bosses quicker
but it has a higher skill ceiling compared just pressing F and walking around
the rampage damage isn't useful?
The one thing that blows is when the shooters have a wide area to spread out
both are good, cranial is more weakspot damage and a bit longer in powered mode
The moment I dive shooters and see six of them go in different directions, I have just a small aneurysm
rampage is more consistent damage
that’s when i pull out my bolter
or just tknife them
i love using tknives on chaff enemies
It always feels like such a waste to bolter trash shooters, even if just a single one of them instantly shreds my toughness if allowed to
The suppression is quite nice though
puncture + shatt impact on boltgun?
You might have problems proccing Rampage at high havoc due to increased mass on hordes
yeah
with wrath?
you’ll proc it easily
Especially powered
what
Is that not a decently meta combo on relic
also have a bolt pistol, is that preferred due to faster draw speed?
Cleave more, and get even more cleave plus 36% more damage in return for cleaving, on the cleave-oriented weapon

I noticed that the throwing knife draw animation cancel doesn't seem to be working on the bolt gun anymore
The 36% is multiplicative too
And not only damage
Cleave and stagger
As well
Because rampage is strength
FS forgot to update tooltip

I thought it was only cleave and damage that rampage gave, not strength overall
Forgor
beacon vs benediction?
Hopefully not true
Beacon good in higher havocs, benediction is just always better everywhere else
maybe the timing is different now? I can't seem to get it to work
Nevermind, I'm dumb. It's working.
thy wrath be swift still a good grab?
or did they fix it
Depends on weapon
If slow, especially with thammer, take it
If not, you can live without it
Grab Anoint and PtU with the two spare points
It has 10.5 base cleave activated so it's not a huge problem.
It has always been +power, just never properly showed it.
wow no funny cat gifs in quite a while here
Looks like I stepped into boring ass Veteran chat for a moment
At havoc
thanks for the all advice, appreciated
A groaner is 4.8 mass
And they'll pile up with even thicker enemies
Fuck, my internet is bad today

*A walker
A groaner has 1.25 times 3.2 from havoc which then is 4
I remember when groaners were 1 mass

They should bring back the 21st to havoc
Unironically fun horde
Why does your pfp keep changing
If you have Wrath you'll be proccing rampage on basically anything that isn't an Ogryn crowd. On activated attacks you can still proc rampage by default into horde fodder.
also what's 10.5/4.8 rounded up 
Wrath is a locked-in blessing you wouldn't be dropping it for a cranial/rampage setup
Do you guys think they'll try to release the plasma gun nerfs around the same time they rework vet
It'll probably be independent. Seems like it wasn't released yet due to them wanting to work on the nerfs a bit more.
(especially now that people know it'll be nerfed and roughly how they wanted to do so)
3 something
Idk

Idk 
My internet keeps dying

lmao
Hopefully nerfing the primary fire will also lead to them buffing the secondary fire a bunch
you sent all of your messages in like 1 second due to your internet
I think the idea is that they want to nerf the primary so that you have more of a reason to use the charged fire. The charged fire is still really strong it's just often the primary is all you need.
The cleave changes they drafted suck ngl
Afaik plasma has one attack template
Just different charge levels
So cleave changes affect the entire weapon
It makes a lot of sense, really incentivizes the charged shot to get the 100 cleave.
They should do whatever change will anger people more (literally anything seen as a nerf)
You may notice that they gave it two different types of ADM changes, which means it couldn't be the same damage template 
NGL I never knew the charge fire was strong cause all I do with it is primary spam 😭
It's basically just a stronger primary shot but on Vet you can juice the plasma damage to only need it for like, Crushers? Sometimes? It's not utilized much.
And then any blessing with "charge" works with M1 at ~50% effectiveness


If you compare the mechanics of a pre-rework weapon to a post-rework weapon you may find that u'll go insane and bonkers because it doesn't make sense to do that. power blast will crash your game when used it's effectively nerfed 
be ye the plasma changes will be cool. You'll have a """fast""" special/elite popper on the primary and the 100 cleave uber destroyer gun on the secondary.
quick question. I am looking at the compendia and online builds and they seem to have diff info on whether crit or not is good on relic blade. What is the current setup for this weapon?
Crit relic blade works well but has no blessing support, the cool down reduction from talents and its innate crit / cleave makes it work anyways. You can take it or leave it but I'd recommend trying it
I started on a standard "the build" with IJ and without crit, ended up switching to crit + piety after trying it out
thanks. Im currently trying out the right side of the tree with blades of faith running into piety
do you take crit chance for weapon perk?
Honestly it works great with many weapons there's a short list of those that don't
Almost never
haven't played since they released havoc
so I am surprised to see nothing really changed for zealot
was hoping for a talent tree rework like the ogryns got
I would skip the crit chance for relic blade, I don't think it relies on needing a high crit rate beyond what comes from the tree
Nothing ever happens
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Indeed, the majority here and in vet chat are licking their chops thinking of what an ogryn style rework could do for our classes
I assume that's
soon and not ordinary soon
Yeah they got their tree with no keystones so they definitely needed it lol
been playing the arbites class and I can't tell if that class is too strong or vet/zealot are just that weak in comparison
havent done havoc 40 so idk what's good anymore
is 5% toughness reduction/10% max health better than blood redemption
idk what to spend my last point on
Solo Hard mode twins,
the game crashing at the end is just classic FatShark things.
hard mode solo
What's the build you're looking at?
Just go with Blood Redemption
it's very similar to the one everybody uses
I dont have let they wrath be swift or dance of death though
I also have Disdain and Sustained Assault
idk man everything left to me is mid
literally the choice is between 5% tough/10% health or blood redemption
Twbs is nice for slow weapons, especially thammer but not really necessary on other weapons imo
As long as you can dodge reliably
I use chain axe cause I'm evil
Dance of death is great on braced auto and probably auto pistol but anything else can likely skip it and just ads
Which chaxe mark are you using?
https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1940841061557186606?t=i3SrULhkLCozfu6m63lGKg&s=19 the timing right after stop killing games petition
light spam single target and heavy spam for horde
damn I kinda vaguely wanted to try Anthem one day
mk iv
SA is just about always good but disdain is mostly for push attacks iirc, if you're using push attack regularly on your chaxe it may be worth
This one has a good push attack if I'm remembering correctly, I think it's a sweep
also I had a bug once on zealot rhere the game ate my last 2 talent points
it didnt show up as I had the perks but I spent the points
and had to reput them all in
Wow that's bad lmao I don't think I've seen that before
ima just go with epic blood redemption win
I have damage to flak armored and maniac
I'd probably take the toughness or tdr for what you're running
I think you're better off than whoever owns that one he linked haha
Schrodinger's rev attack
Is a 20% max health curio good
Sweet skg hit 1mil
Is there a collateral threshold to open bulwarks with the bolt pistol, or is it better to keep as low as possible like with the recon lasgun? I have one at 34% with the other 4 at 80%.
Always dump mobility on Guns
@gloomy vine
huh
am dying
whys it on na west
idk
if its servers i am cooked
average darktide experience
the servers are fine
21% is the highest, 20 is fine if you haven't gotten a 21 yet . I prefer Stam or toughness curios for non martyr builds tho

*based
dogs cant do math silly
is flamer any good
yea
Yeah
infinite cleave dot stacking weapon
we are so back
How come I cant get past heresy difficulty after the new update
They changed it and made you play 5 matches of each difficulty I thought
but my progress isnt going up
cringe
This is the most based image in the game. (probably)
plasma isnt getting a nerf because its too strong
its getting a nerf because vet is large fish's least favorite class
what
Has anyone played around with stacking Zealots crazy TDR potential with Arby's shared TDR?
50% TDR on crit for 4s, 25% TDR while Fury is active, 15% TDR from beneditction aura, three TDR nodes 15% all from Zealot. Add in 7.5% from dog aura, and 20% shared TDR for 5s on pounced kill
Pretty sure DRs stack multiplicatively so there are diminishing returns
Ohhhh boo
Can't really reach 100% to my knowledge, could be wrong though
Martyr would make you crit less often, so less 50% TDR from crit
Yeah that would work
Right so with all this:
50% TDR on crit for 4s, 25% TDR while Fury is active, 15% TDR from beneditction aura, three TDR nodes 15% all from Zealot. Add in 7.5% from dog aura, and 20% shared TDR for 5s on pounced kill
A 100 damage hit should do about 20 damage
buy green plasma and sacrifice them to the omnissiah
At least according to my limited math ability
or just use the weapon 
Hm. Does anyone know how damage reduction interacts with TDR?
Like, if you have 50% damage reduction, would you take 50 damage, which is then reduced by TDR?
I got it to 16 and now im playing mortis trials for the brahms lines
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