zealot-class

[rose hawk]

So is every zealot build that doesn't use martyrdom just choose nade go benediction then choose ability then go blazing piety?

[plush estuary]

All keystones are good, blazing piety being the best overall with zealots crit synergy

[mighty root]

You should use piety with tac axe

[craggy jackal]

you dont choose a nade you path through knives

[mighty root]

[craggy jackal]

if you path through nades its a straight point tax

[mighty root]

@plush estuary do you use stalwart?

On your havoc 40 stuff?

[plush estuary]

Yes

[mighty root]

Hmmm

[plush estuary]

I just use the max DR build

[mighty root]

Yeah with good balance

Tac axe is incredibly safe

My only gripe is pietys uptime

I guess it’s up when you need in really

Guh

[rose hawk]

If I wanted to do a fotf build without knives I'd get point taxed?

[void bison]

[mighty root]

Does scourge give you all the crit you need?

With fury to get it going?

Forgot zealots base crit

[craggy jackal]

youd get point taxed cause you would path through a nade and still take the talents before knives yes

[rose hawk]

Oh that makes sense

Damn the parking to immolation grenades doesn't look great

Big sad

[craggy jackal]

at the very least you get purge the unclean

but nothing else is good

[misty nova]

Fellowship Fortitude slander

[craggy jackal]

yeah im slandering it its mid

[rose hawk]

Since I have invocation of death for my shroud field would perfectionist be good since my cd reduction is already pretty fast or no

Or is master crafted just better

[craggy jackal]

invoc is all cdr youll ever need

assuming you dont have 0 crit

[rose hawk]

So it's ok to take a 25% increased cooldown

[misty nova]

Perfectionist is the only good Shroudfield modifier

(totally not biased, do not read my name)

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949782425930715226/1256959312979296266/esports.gif

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/tole-tole-cat-cat-vro-cat-gif-17161343143756375842

[rose hawk]

I cannot read!

[misty nova]

Pilk drinker fucking dies

Rejoice

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-daily-ring-well-done-bell-gif-23211845

[rose hawk]

Would this be a good book build?

[craggy jackal]

yes

why take dance though

[rose hawk]

I thought I had another point for the things under it but I only had 1 spare

And idk where to put the spare

[misty nova]

One point left moment

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/902244805650821144/1389660994225049710/3b3PwY7.mov?ex=68656e27&is=68641ca7&hm=15f2e6046f4374a7f3b8f419ba81c8b5042b407c6f8ad2715dfd842c1fcaaf5e&

[rose hawk]

I prob should get

Toughness damage reduction

[craggy jackal]

book modifier

[rose hawk]

?

[craggy jackal]

or TDR

[mighty root]

Take off righteous warrior for stalwart and put on twbs

[rose hawk]

I read that the book modifiers aren't great

From someone

[craggy jackal]

they arent

[rose hawk]

I forgot who

[craggy jackal]

but you have a dangling point

[mighty root]

Thy wrath be swift

[rose hawk]

Where the heck is righteous warrior

[craggy jackal]

right side piety

[rose hawk]

Oh

[mighty root]

Take out that one point below sustained assault

[hushed knoll]

Hello fur

Fyre

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/crime-war-crimes-criminal-criminals-uhgg-gif-9294414266865576889

[hushed knoll]

[craggy jackal]

left side piety is the TDR side and only needs 1 point

right side needs 2

[rose hawk]

Where's twbs

[craggy jackal]

under dance

[obtuse garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wtf-cat-wtf-cat-cute-cat-gif-19084287

[rose hawk]

So this?

[craggy jackal]

if youre only putting one point in piety it should be left side

one point in right side does nothing

[rose hawk]

Yeah I'm not the biggest fan of losing the +10% crit

[craggy jackal]

you already lost 10% crit

thats the 2nd point on right side

[rose hawk]

Ya that's what I meant

Hmmm

Is losing righteous warrior for twbs worth it?

[obsidian prairie]

Which one is that

[gloomy vine]

hi friends i just started my zealot journey

where can i find a list of recommended builds/tips

[rose hawk]

It's the set of nodes above loner

[craggy jackal]

10% crit chance on piety

[rose hawk]

Enemy melees can't stun

[craggy jackal]

twbs is nice

but you dont need it on every weapon

or if you just become him

and dont get hit

[rose hawk]

I'm him

Immediately dies

[craggy jackal]

this is The Build tm

[rose hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/nugg-dies-nugg-dies-again-nugg-squishd-nugg-squished-dies-cutely-gif-22356504

[craggy jackal]

the only zealot build

the pins also have a zealot compendium by ainz

and some other good stuff

[rose hawk]

Damn psykers tree feels so much more flexible

[craggy jackal]

because it is

[rose hawk]

Is ogryns also after the rework?

Cause I need to do him next

[gloomy vine]

looks at example builds

its all fotf

Well, okay.

[plush estuary]

Planned to add more

But fury gets the most value

[gloomy vine]

Works for me!

[craggy jackal]

fotf is generally considered zealots best skill

you can take book in like havoc

[gloomy vine]

Relic Blade interested me the most anyways so yeah it works

[craggy jackal]

we do love relic blade

[mighty root]

Relic is good

[craggy jackal]

i found lumis guide really helpful idk if its outdated

[mighty root]

Probably his best weapon

[gloomy vine]

this is my last class to get to level 30

so

[mighty root]

It’s good

[gloomy vine]

wow i think this may be the shittiest aura in the entire game

i didn't even know you guys HAD this

[cerulean moth]

says that while loner is RIGHT THERE

[north sedge]

no loner is next to it

[rose hawk]

Is Lumia guide pinned

[craggy jackal]

holy fuck patrick jumpscare

[gloomy vine]

ok loner is also really bad

[cerulean moth]

what the fuck

[gloomy vine]

but

[north sedge]

beacon has it's uses just not all the time

[cerulean moth]

Aisan get out of my chat

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-dessert-spank-jiggly-bunny-jiggly-gif-25255921

[craggy jackal]

this is my chat now

leave

[cerulean moth]

asian

no i live here

ive been here longer

[mighty root]

This is my chat

[cerulean moth]

dip stick

poopy head

[craggy jackal]

i didnt know you played zealot

we should game sometime

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1337111856375922812/rapidsave.com_lhqazm85hhhe1.gif

[cerulean moth]

Agreed!

[gloomy vine]

Yeah I fuck with this

[cerulean moth]

im 1000+ on zealot apparently

[gloomy vine]

I'm probably going to try this out as I level up.

[cerulean moth]

might be close to 2000 now

dont have the true level mod

[gloomy vine]

good god

[craggy jackal]

its john darktide

[plush estuary]

Lol

[gloomy vine]

my only class that is over 100 is veteran

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/bTXO3.gif

[rose hawk]

Mine is psyker

[cerulean moth]

i play this game too much

i only know im 1000+ because someone last year told me so

[craggy jackal]

no such thing as too much

[cerulean moth]

without my consent

[gloomy vine]

and then i stopped playing veteran and became ogryn main

so,

(im happier for it)

[misty nova]

Loner is right there

[rose hawk]

Fotf is pretty damn fun

[misty nova]

😭

[gloomy vine]

the karsolas pickaxe is my new husband and i can't go back

[plush estuary]

Don't forget about locking charge and the chain weapon trick

[gloomy badge]

darktide hiatus is over

what's new people

[plush estuary]

He's here

[gloomy vine]

Oh I'm sure it can't be that ba-

[rose hawk]

What's tha

[gloomy badge]

@plush estuary my slime!!!!

[plush estuary]

Been awhile venuz

[gloomy vine]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[gloomy badge]

been too long

[misty nova]

Can't even call it Aura

[gloomy badge]

i'm ready to shake off rust

[misty nova]

[gloomy badge]

i messaged dorn a while ago but he hasn't responded yet

[cerulean moth]

this swedish time vaccum has take too much of my life

[unkempt pewter]

Huh, relic blade is pretty fun. Feels like a bit clunkier bretonnian longsword. I'm still trying to figure out the empowered mode, it somehow weaves into combos because sometimes I turn it on and keep swinging, and sometimes there's a delay before I can do anything

[gloomy vine]

And I thought Veteran had some awful nodes

Jesus fucking Christ

[gloomy badge]

@plush estuary can i dm you for build advice

haven't been keeping up with the updates

[plush estuary]

Sure but I gotta leave the house soon, but I will be back later

[craggy jackal]

theres a reason vet and zealot feel so pigeonholed in their talent trees

[cerulean moth]

perhaps youve overheated it? The weapon should be close to seemless

[gloomy vine]

does anyone here play martyrdom into havoc

[cerulean moth]

not havoc but i do it in auric pleanty

[rose hawk]

Ohhh I knew about the second image

[gloomy vine]

i need to know if you're doing ok

[rose hawk]

But the first one is really interesting

[cerulean moth]

ah ok

[gloomy badge]

does yamato still play

[unkempt pewter]

No, it's not that. I think it has longer...recovery after some swings or something. Sometimes I turn on empowered mode and there's like a half a second delay before next swing comes out

[gloomy vine]

i feel like martyrdom in high diff is something you need to be really really good at the game to pull off

[unkempt pewter]

Anyway, need more time with it

[cerulean moth]

are you talking about the activation animation>

or the delay is right after that

[gloomy vine]

though you get like what, 60% more melee damage or something from it?

[misty nova]

With Martyrdom on high havoc

You actually feel like a glass cannon

[cerulean moth]

swing speed toughnerss damage resist and other shit

[unkempt pewter]

I guess the delay after? Hard to explain. Usually I turn it on and it feels like next light attack just kinda cancels the recovery time

[misty nova]

Might as well play Gunker

[cerulean moth]

dont get me wrong its the most fun you can have on this class imo but if your in havok 40 and dont have relic people think ur throwing

[gloomy vine]

bro...

[craggy jackal]

48% melee damage 24% melee attack speed 39% TDR

[cerulean moth]

not good

dont bother

[gloomy vine]

Oh I know

[craggy jackal]

for marty in heresy+

aka the real game

[gloomy vine]

I am now seeing why people complain about this class

lol

[craggy jackal]

just a little bit

[cerulean moth]

zealot sucks in this instance because you get pigeon holed and forced to pick the same shit. But the problem is half the same shit is strong so many people don't see a problem with the class imo

hopefully i said that correctly

struggle to explain things

[craggy jackal]

yeah zealot with flamer ds4 book/fotf is one of the strongest things in the game so ppl dont think theres a problem

but like what else are you gonna run

lol

[gloomy vine]

I am curious why it is recommended to use Relic Blade on this though

[misty nova]

Duelist outfinessing everything

😭

[gloomy vine]

and why scourge over blood redemption

[craggy jackal]

blood redemption is kinda bait

and relic blade is a finesse weapon

[gloomy vine]

ah i do gotta ask

what's considered the top ranged weapons for zealot

i see others in auric using flamers and recon las

[craggy jackal]

flamer

the boltguns are good

recon las is prolly good

[misty nova]

Why is the math wrong here

[craggy jackal]

and revolver

[gloomy vine]

i love using recon las on my vet

[misty nova]

💀

[craggy jackal]

i literally couldnt tell you

theres an error somewhere between FS desc or mod desc

[gloomy vine]

why do they dump damage

[rocky gull]

can i have tips for “find their weakness”? (75 crit kills on stunned enemies)

[craggy jackal]

damage only buffs direct hit damage not dot damage

as you imagine direct hit damage is nothing

[gloomy vine]

Oh it does?

[craggy jackal]

dumping damage is a 1 dmg loss

or something

[gloomy vine]

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

I had zero clue lol

[cerulean moth]

ill dump in your damage

[craggy jackal]

private lobby/grab some friends ask to solo horde run piety

[cerulean moth]

if ya know what I mean

[void bison]

I should try flamers again on auric I just use revolver

[unkempt pewter]

Wait, how is that +100%

[craggy jackal]

.

[void bison]

I'll damage your dump

[rocky gull]

what about weapons

[craggy jackal]

any weapon that can stack scourge

so like

not thammer

[rocky gull]

so basically full left side build and melee that’s not hammer?

[craggy jackal]

theres probably more intracies for super optimizing but yeah

run crit build and ask to solo a horde

[rocky gull]

would relic blade work or should I try something else

[craggy jackal]

relic blade is a crit weapon

[cerulean moth]

that works fine. any weapon with great cleave can help. I did it on my evis a long time ago

[craggy jackal]

unfortunately relic doesnt get shred

[cerulean moth]

unless ive missunderstood questtion

ohh

ok

[craggy jackal]

so a shred weapon might be better

[mighty root]

Any weapon besides chain axe or thammer

[rocky gull]

if i could use a normal power sword on zealot i’d probably have it by now

[runic grotto]

Relic blade is better anyway

[rocky gull]

i got it

does the relic blade count for master your tools?

[crimson belfry]

Am I bad or is the Crusher kinda crap?

[craggy jackal]

its good just weird

[plush estuary]

Probably zealots 4th best weapon

Most balanced (outside skull crusher) and interesting

[misty nova]

Can't say you're bad

But crusher does require a bit more knowledge to get the best of it

[crimson belfry]

I was bonking some stuff and felt like it wasn't doing much

[mighty root]

No one is bad they just haven’t passed a skill ceiling I believe you’re good at where you are

[plush estuary]

How did you build it? Talents/perks/stats/blessings. Were you using the correct attack pattern?

[mighty root]

It take awhile to clutch, solo, duo

[north sedge]

There's a crusher guide in pins that explains all

[crimson belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b46f7a7-cfdb-4b55-89f7-01a9a12eb173/critical-clubber

that's the one I found

no idea if good lmao

[plush estuary]

Oh

It's meh..

[crimson belfry]

fair

[plush estuary]

You are missing a lot of dps without dueslist

And elite isn't work as a perk on jt

[mighty root]

Not good

[plush estuary]

Take flak

Curios also might want gunner res instead of sprint eff.

[mighty root]

Path through knifes

[crimson belfry]

I'm running 2 tough, 1 stam, then 3 stam regen, 3 gunners, and 3 health

[runic grotto]

Use x3 +10% ordo dockets

[plush estuary]

Health has far less value then toughness, but that works

[rocky gull]

no? yes?

[plush estuary]

Zealot scales toughness damage reduction really well with enduring faith and stalwart

[plush estuary]

What's Master your tools?

[rocky gull]

75 elite/special kills with power/chain weapons

[plush estuary]

Unsure

Seems very easy to test

[crimson belfry]

Well I was told "whatever" so I went whatever lol

[runic grotto]

no idea, I think most in here had this penance done long before relic blades existed

[brisk raft]

Is Recon good on Zealot?

[runic grotto]

I wouldn't use it

[misty nova]

No

[plush estuary]

Las pistol does everything better

But try it out, it doesn't have recoil so it's hard to miss

[misty nova]

Critical build without Duelist

https://tenor.com/view/gato-withrock-gif-27341353

[brisk raft]

Ahh, cause I recently came back in and saw a Zealot using recon and wondered if it's the new hot thing

[plush estuary]

Its from crafting update but it's not much

[misty nova]

Can we down vote builds

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-boomer-cat-gif-1683887670243329195

[plush estuary]

We can kill people with rocks and hammers

That works

Sometimes

[misty nova]

Imagine it as
Single target Infernus applier

[plush estuary]

But las pistol has actual crit blessings and better base crit chance

[rocky gull]

it does count

[brisk raft]

For laspistol on Zealot are the bis Dumdum and Infernus too?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

Alternatively, dumdum ghost.

Pick your poison.

Ghost is better for dealing with mass shooters, infernus is better for bossing and burning down reapers and the occasional bulwark. (assuming you want to shoot him)

[brisk raft]

Zealot trying to outshoot other classes hehe

[void bison]

I craved the strength and certainty of wheel

[grizzled aspen]

Trying? Go use laspistol, that contest will be short and quick. (Scriers will still outdamage you)

[rose hawk]

When will fatshark give us guardian spears and c'tan phase swords 😔

[hard nexus]

lol what

las pistol does well

but a gunker or a vet will outshoot you

[grizzled aspen]

Normal vets absolutely won't.

They're on the floor licking the tiles clean.

[rose hawk]

Eating crayons

[hard nexus]

no shit

[grizzled aspen]

Meow is so hostile...

[rose hawk]

Just like a real cat

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246604447082352732/1365087464837877771/el_bobberto_-_1859743340524339703.gif

i am pure of heart

[grizzled aspen]

Dumb of ass, too...

[hard nexus]

uh huh

[misty nova]

No blue checkmark, no ads no nothing

Solely for the love of the game

[hard nexus]

yep

[grizzled aspen]

Friend request still pending...

Meow never gonna be my friend...

[hard nexus]

deadass i never noticed you sent me a friend request

[grizzled aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[plush estuary]

....

whos gonna tell them

no more sedition

[rose hawk]

What about seduction

👉 👈

[obsidian prairie]

You clearly aren’t looking hard enough then

[plush estuary]

fair

[stray summit]

for energy leakage on the relic blade, when the blade overheats does it slowly tick down the power buff or is it all gone immediately on overheat

[obsidian prairie]

Idk, I don’t use it

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-dessert-spank-jiggly-bunny-jiggly-gif-25255921

[twilit dirge]

any1 have any relic blade builds?

[craggy jackal]

standard piety build

perks and blessings in pins

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/sgh-gif-26294888

[twilit dirge]

is the relic blade the one where youre a speed demon

and zoom around map

or is that the dagger

am new to zealot

[craggy jackal]

dagger

on mk 3 if you charge a heavy you sprint faster

dueling sword also very mobile weapon

[runic grotto]

Tacaxe now too

[stray summit]

ppl in zealot chat asking for builds like the entirety of Tertium isnt about to hit them up with the build™

[twilit dirge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1299070373752602674/1330046577376624711/lv_0_20250117233006.gif

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-headbutt-gif-15075841562648682863

[twilit dirge]

my gif broken

[clever swan]

inferiorly colored user

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/mari-omori-mari-depressed-gif-26543224

[copper hawk]

Noob down

[plush estuary]

bored, so I am working on example builds for the guide

what should I put

nade/ability/keystone and the weapons

[mighty root]

I’m home I can finally play da game

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

Slopper reporting for duty

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[plush estuary]

My internet is bugging out

[mighty root]

Guh

[plush estuary]

and I won't be able to play for a bit

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lunarcord-goat-washed-goat-washing-goated-finobe-gif-15936998508567949580

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-falling-down-stairs-gif-5462499368330342031

[stray summit]

im glad we agreed on this

[mighty root]

I’m not washed

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1371151936228687994/pokes_you.gif

Attacks you

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hypnosis-mkultra-mind-control-gif-13434861076506246835

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-dessert-spank-jiggly-bunny-jiggly-gif-25255921

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-enfilthened-my-goat-washed-goat-gif-3993739420131044320

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-goat-dance-my-goat-govial-when-you-realize-your-goat-gif-3982600584251880597

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/goatishere-gif-5651566074707732289

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[grizzled aspen]

I actually used to own a goat just like that, wow.

Little Nigerian dwarf goat with a white spot on her side.

:)

[stray summit]

Was she washed

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

Hated water.

Thought she was melting if she ever got wet.

[twilit dirge]

is the relic blade better or the combat knife is ? im assuming they're for different builds

[acoustic dune]

Chat

What is your shrimp sona

And why is it pink

[runic grotto]

What's with mortis trials

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-shrimp-animation-pixel-gif-6901986208266401917

[runic grotto]

Is literally nobody playing them?

[acoustic dune]

And make you sick

[grizzled aspen]

They serve entirely different purposes.

[acoustic dune]

Cause they are pretty rich

[runic grotto]

I've been standing still before this gate for 10 minutes

And no one joined

[mighty root]

You can do peity with both

[twilit dirge]

the difference is one is fast and one is strong

[grizzled aspen]

Combat blade is a highly mobile option that allows for quick kills on elites and specialists. Relic blade is a heretic lawnmower.

[mighty root]

They are both strong

[runic grotto]

One is strong and the other one is strong

[grizzled aspen]

Can't really compare the two because they're meant for different things.

[acoustic dune]

Mortise trial is too hard for the average pooptide player

[stray summit]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-tale-shrimp-shrimp-shark-tale-nadianagrande-desperate-ranting-gif-899907485534333356

[acoustic dune]

Ew french

Chat

Eat him

[stray summit]

Bretonnian

[grizzled aspen]

Even worse.

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-bean-mr-beans-holiday-rowan-atkinson-langoustine-gif-27599908

[grizzled aspen]

500 norscans be upon ye.

[stray summit]

Grail Knight killed 499 of them

The last one was eaten by the peasantry

[grizzled aspen]

Too bad the 500th was Wulfrik the Wanderer.

[twilit dirge]

which is better for bossing do you reckon

[grizzled aspen]

They're fairly equal.

[acoustic dune]

As a rule of thumb

It's almost always dump mobility

[grizzled aspen]

Trying to hit a weakspot with combat knife is rather hard when the boss is constantly moving around.

Relic blade, not so much.

Attack speed is offset by having a wider hitbox.

That being said, if you are good at aiming your swings, combat knife takes the cake due to safety.

[twilit dirge]

ive just come from playing mostly ogryn this class is so much harder

[grizzled aspen]

Much longer dodges and higher dodge count than relic blade.

[acoustic dune]

Thought the knife have a easier time hitting weakspot

[stray summit]

MK2 relic blade brain worms

[grizzled aspen]

Narrow attack hitbox

It does better damage on headshots than most weapons in the game but the issue isn't the damage, it's the likelihood of you hitting the head.

[grizzled aspen]

The kraks are what ate that cspawn.

[acoustic dune]

Only the head count as a weak spot?

[stray summit]

idc

[grizzled aspen]

I think cspawn and burgle got new weakspot spots but yeah, rule of thumb, weakspot = head.

[acoustic dune]

New?

[grizzled aspen]

Vodka told me earlier you can shoot a burgle in the mouth and it's considered a weakspot shot and I absolutely butchered one with my shotgun.

[acoustic dune]

Tf did they add

[twilit dirge]

I think relic blade is cooler either way you get to be a crusader

[acoustic dune]

I perfer its cooler brother

The warp greatsword

The only reason i play psycher btw

[grizzled aspen]

FGS is a better weapon, for sure, but we don't get it on zeal.

[runic grotto]

why the fuck are mortis trials are so empty

Literally 0 people are playing them

dead gamemode

[orchid cipher]

not enough elites

[runic grotto]

dead game

[twilit dirge]

they give fuck all xp

rolling steel gives you more i think

[grizzled aspen]

Mortis doesn't give enough mats, dockets, or xp, and the gamemode is a nothing burger outside of auric.

Auric directors want you fucking dead in that mode though.

[misty nova]

One and done

[grizzled aspen]

Did a duo earlier and the game threw 4 plogryns and 2 burgles at us at the same time.

[feral granite]

I loved fighting 7 bosses at once tbh

[acoustic dune]

People still play for mat?

[feral granite]

Genuinely the most what the fuck is going on shit i've ever experienced

[feral granite]

just because you dont need materials doesnt mean theres no one who needs them

[twilit dirge]

i remember getting a silly ogryn build where my box of grenade healed everyone and i got free grenade every 20s it was wild

[orchid cipher]

MKXV evi is so nice now though

why is the MK3 still so shit FS

[runic grotto]

I can either play a rumbler ogryn and solo all 12 waves

[grizzled aspen]

grenade every 20s
grenades heal teammates
box drops 1 of each grenade
50% chance for your grenade to go off twice

[runic grotto]

Or I can just play solo and do nothing to 8 bosses

[acoustic dune]

I just like to play the game passively

Also mortis is fun

[runic grotto]

I need to do 100 mortis trials

But nobody plays them

And playing on damnation is just boring

was hoping for at least some auric mayhem

[feral granite]

look for a group in here rather than matchmaking

[runic grotto]

Speaking english is tiring for me, I just wanted to play mortis and watch a video on my 2nd monitor or something

[craggy jackal]

you could just no mic it

[rose hawk]

Wait so what makes thunder hammers bad? I've seen people do half a bosses hp with fotf

[void bison]

from what I know, everything else besides bosses makes it bad

[misty nova]

High specialized weapon with competition

(dueling sword)

[north sedge]

It's not bad, just very specialized

[misty nova]

Only half?

Rookie numbers

[candid furnace]

is dueling sword still wildly op

[full nebula]

For the moment

[long oasis]

currently untouched

[candid furnace]

is it able to compete with the arbites

[misty nova]

Outperform

Or rather

Outfinesse

[candid furnace]

what build do you recomend for it(just auric)

[misty nova]

The Build™

With Piety

[runic grotto]

The The Zealot Build™

[candid furnace]

FotF? piety?

[craggy jackal]

Yeah

[misty nova]

Then Precognition Riposte on the dueling sword

[rose hawk]

I just noticed the little dog there

Omg there's another dog

[misty nova]

Meow's watermark

Meow
Dog

[rose hawk]

Why doesn't meow use cats as a watermark

[candid furnace]

im so confused

[misty nova]

Take the purple path

[rose hawk]

Purple is mandatory

Yellow is optional stuff you can take after

[misty nova]

End at the left side keystone

[candid furnace]

ohhh

[misty nova]

Get Scourge on the top right instead of blood Redemption

[candid furnace]

What is finese dmg

[misty nova]

Critical/Weakspot damage

[craggy jackal]

No uncanny

[rose hawk]

Why are blood redemption and scourge circled instead of using the lines?

[plush estuary]

build dependent

[misty nova]

Idk

[craggy jackal]

Pick one or the other

[misty nova]

[craggy jackal]

If you can’t take scourge take blood redemption

[rose hawk]

Makes sense

[candid furnace]

what secondary should i use

[craggy jackal]

Flamer

[candid furnace]

mk for duellling?

[craggy jackal]

4

[misty nova]

4 for brain off

[candid furnace]

any combos i should know?

[plush estuary]

heavy

hjeavy

heavy

heavy

[rose hawk]

Splendid screen

[plush estuary]

heavy

[craggy jackal]

Heavy attack

[plush estuary]

heavy

[craggy jackal]

That’s your entire combo

[misty nova]

For hordes
Light Light Light Light Light Light

[plush estuary]

light

light

light

light

[candid furnace]

very indepth

[craggy jackal]

For hordes you pull out your flamer

And press m1

[candid furnace]

this seems difficult

[craggy jackal]

It’s called a braindead loadout for a reason

[misty nova]

And your special attack staggers pretty much everything that isn't a boss

[candid furnace]

have they not thought to nerf it?

[craggy jackal]

They have

Just not yet

[misty nova]

Soon™

[candid furnace]

do we know how big of a nerf it will be?

[craggy jackal]

No

[long oasis]

in the chinese balance patch they accidentally revealed the (tentative) dueling sword and plasma nerfs

[rose hawk]

They don't want to kill the weapon

[plush estuary]

are you sure

[rose hawk]

Isn't that what they said

[plush estuary]

idk

[candid furnace]

how good is the other mk

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[rose hawk]

Mk2 is good

The other mark is not?

I think

[misty nova]

Mk2 has Mk4 stabs on heavy1

And a heavy 2 for hordes

[long oasis]

translated version

[misty nova]

So it's technically better than Mk4 because it has same single target but better horde clearing

However

You gotta learn combos

[void bison]

aurora just stole the sun

[misty nova]

Mk5 doesn't hit as hard as the stabs, but still hits hard AND has the best dodges in the game

[misty nova]

Rogue Trader moment

[misty nova]

But let's be honest
No one cares about horde clearing when you have a Flamer

[rose hawk]

So does the psyker gain 4% peril when using the special for DS?

[mighty root]

I think the mk 5 is fine tbh

[candid furnace]

is there weapons better then the relic blade in non braindead builds?

[rose hawk]

Also damn plasma gun going from 100 pen to 10

[mighty root]

I’m glad it’s getting a parry

[craggy jackal]

Relic blade is good

[long oasis]

yes

[mighty root]

Tac axe

[misty nova]

This would unironically kill Plasma

[candid furnace]

why the tac axe

[misty nova]

You see

Plasma has only 1 attack template

[rose hawk]

Yeah but I think its supposed to retain full pen if you charge it

[mighty root]

Really good zealot weapon

[craggy jackal]

It got giga buffed

[mighty root]

Very safe

[misty nova]

But M1 charges up to 52%

[rose hawk]

I guess they want people to use the secondary more

[long oasis]

poor combat knife

[misty nova]

So if you nerf the cleave to 10

[candid furnace]

like what are the pros andcons

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1389426055047020564/tacaxefunny.mp4?ex=6865e4d9&is=68649359&hm=520465834aba4850196c3d0fbab041d3e02ff3c685cc079abf53f9932ef47559&

[misty nova]

M1 might only get ~5 cleave

[craggy jackal]

There are no cons

Tac axe is just good

[rose hawk]

What the heck is mystic strike

[misty nova]

Nuh uh

[craggy jackal]

Uncanny strike

[misty nova]

Uncanny Strike

[long oasis]

wait I cant read

[mighty root]

I believe that’s only for the ds

[misty nova]

Taxes have damaged targets cap of 3

Still

[long oasis]

yers

[rose hawk]

Damn that kinda sucks

[rose hawk]

Wait how does the tax axe compare to Rashad?

[mighty root]

No cons just a solid weapon

[misty nova]

Rashad>>>>>

[candid furnace]

im not great at the game at the moment would it still work

[misty nova]

I clearly stated one of the cons of Taxe

[mighty root]

Damm for everything?

[long oasis]

rashad is boring while tac axe is funnerer

[rose hawk]

That's fair

[misty nova]

Ain't nobody reading 😭

[craggy jackal]

At beginner levels the weapon you use doesnt matter

You can use anything

[rose hawk]

Speaking of axes

When will fatshark give us gorechild

[candid furnace]

nah im on auric im just not very good

[misty nova]

Lemme be more specific

[craggy jackal]

Yeah

Anything works on auric

Smile

[misty nova]

Rashad can easily meet breakpoints for Bruisers

[rose hawk]

It's only really havoc that requires specific setups

[candid furnace]

what is rashad?

[craggy jackal]

Pre much

[misty nova]

Meaning that you can easily kill 4 bruisers with one attack

[craggy jackal]

Rashad combat axe

[misty nova]

While Taxe is CRIT reliant

[rose hawk]

Even then I still use gun psyker on havoc >_<

[misty nova]

Rashad is also able to stagger 2-3 Dreg Ragers with the push attack

[mighty root]

@misty nova someone said I was missing weakspots constantly in dis vid

[long oasis]

theres no way theyre gonna release the changes as is

[candid furnace]

Im really torn between inexorable and blazing

[craggy jackal]

both are good

piety is better

especially if your weapon is crit reliant

[candid furnace]

which ones are

[craggy jackal]

tac axe

[mighty root]

Yeah I think they need to work on it a bit more

[misty nova]

If you're Martyrdom pilled like me
Inexorable is trash

[rose hawk]

How does China get stuff faster in like every game I play

[mighty root]

You can do a knife ij build

[candid furnace]

i have done it before

[rose hawk]

Eviscerater is very fun imo

[misty nova]

Knife
Dueling Sword
Tactical Axe
Assault Chainsword

[long oasis]

I love chinese players they review bomb every game I like

[misty nova]

Devil's Claw

Shock Maul (?)

[candid furnace]

what about relic blade?

[mighty root]

Anything but thammer and chain axe really

[craggy jackal]

relic blade is a crit weapon

[misty nova]

Relic Blade is not CRIT reliant but does have CRIT synergy

[craggy jackal]

yeah that

[long oasis]

relic blade does not have a finesse modifier so it benefits slightly less from crits

[misty nova]

So it'll be fine with all 3 keystones

[craggy jackal]

relic blade does have a finesse modifier?

[candid furnace]

it does

or at least mk2 does

do you recomend righteous warrior?

[craggy jackal]

both do

stalwart

for the survivability

but you are in auric so righteous is fine too

[candid furnace]

at the moment i just grab fury rising

[long oasis]

oh wait it does

[craggy jackal]

what is fury rising

[mighty root]

Both are good righteous is for more uptime stalwart for more survivability

[craggy jackal]

that is righteous

[candid furnace]

its just before

[long oasis]

crits count towards fury

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scream-cat-screaming-screaming-cat-screaming-cat-meme-cat-holding-head-gif-18315479387537093127

[craggy jackal]

thats a nothing node im ngl

[long oasis]

its good for bosses ig

but in havoc its not like bosses spawn in isolation anymore

[candid furnace]

i need one extra point but im not sure what to get rid of

[craggy jackal]

refer back to the build tm

if you have a talent thats not on that tree

take it off

[mighty root]

Tbh when I run righteous or stalwart I can’t tell a difference

[long oasis]

wait when did brahms get added to the psykhanium?

[misty nova]

Recently

[long oasis]

or am I blind and just never noticed

o

[misty nova]

With her mortis lines

I didn't get a single coherent one

Last time I checked it was at wave 9 mortis

[candid furnace]

is there any other secondaries that are good

[long oasis]

shredder autopistol

[misty nova]

So I just listened to whoever give Mourningstar to Brahms

[craggy jackal]

bolt gun

[candid furnace]

I have been having fun with the bolt pistol

havent tried the other bolt guns yet

[misty nova]

Then a lot of theories that Grendyl is a machine spirit of sorts haunting the Mourningstar surfaced

https://tenor.com/view/wat-what-huh-confused-kitten-gif-16578675544592554435

[long oasis]

makes sense

the only times he appears are as a disembodied head

[misty nova]

Btw, about Brahms model on the psykhanium

https://tenor.com/view/berleezy-iberleezy-belin-edmond-she-kinda-bad-she-kinda-bad-tho-gif-19486304

[long oasis]

💀

[misty nova]

Love her double holsters

[long oasis]

I like her outfit too

[sturdy flare]

Hey guys, what blessings should I slap on my infantry Agripinaa MK IX Autogun ? For perks, I've have Flak + Maniac on. Im playing Zealot. Thanks

[long oasis]

but I think its a different one than the one in the intro cinematic?

[misty nova]

Can't deny nor confirm

I've been skipping that

💀

[misty nova]

Infantry Autogun 9?

You mean

Vigilant Autogun 9

Right?

Flak Maniacs

[sturdy flare]

I do yes.

Ive got Flak+Maniacs on. What blessings would u recommend ?

[misty nova]

Vigilant have poor maniacs, hence Maniacs

[misty nova]

Surgical or Headhunter + Ghost or Deadly Accurate

[sturdy flare]

WHY are there 2 vigilant autoguns ? I feel the devs made everything complicated on purpose. I dont get why.

[sturdy flare]

Thank you

[craggy jackal]

theres only 1 vigilant autogun

[misty nova]

There's 3 vigilant Autoguns
3 infantry autoguns
3 braced autoguns
3 Recon Lasguns
3 infantry lasguns

[craggy jackal]

the others are infantry autogun and braced autogun

[misty nova]

[craggy jackal]

unless you mean marks of weapons

[misty nova]

Also the answer for your question.

Idk

[acoustic dune]

Chat

Tahc

[misty nova]

Since we only use 1 or 2 marks from the 3 available

[sturdy flare]

The weapon design & options available couldve been made so much simpler

[long oasis]

It could have but they wanted this game to have a crafting system

[acoustic dune]

Chat
Brace lasy when

[sturdy flare]

Dont get me wrong, I get that. Im coming from nearly 6k hours of V2. I get it. But the way they did it is like a web inside another.

Basically they took their crafting concept from weaves & tried to implement it. But it's weird.

[long oasis]

ive never played vermintide 2 so idk what the crafting system was like

all I know is that this one is kinda obtuse and it used be worse

[runic grotto]

chat

quick

what do I put on ds4 for havoc

[long oasis]

uncanny precog?

[north sedge]

Vt2 crafting is more annoying than current dt crafting

More so if you're fresh to the game

[mighty root]

What keystone

[runic grotto]

idk

I never used ds4

It's my first time

[craggy jackal]

piety

[candid furnace]

what is your fav weapon on zealot?

[mighty root]

Uncanny precog flak unyielding

[mighty root]

Tac axe, heavy sword, knife, relic blade, evisorator

[hearty nebula]

hsword

[mighty root]

Zealot space program with ij and the ds mk5

[candid furnace]

i dont know much about the heavy sword

[craggy jackal]

relic blade

tac axe and heavy sword after

[candid furnace]

what are the pros and cons of heavy sword?

also what mk for tac axe if it has different marks

[craggy jackal]

not great against carapace

mk 7

[candid furnace]

pros?

[long oasis]

great against literally everything else

[candid furnace]

il give it a try if i get a good one

[long oasis]

one of its blessings gives it infinite cleave on any weak spot hit

[mighty root]

Fury solves that

[craggy jackal]

i know

[long oasis]

u only get 2 tho

[runic grotto]

I am using book, precog + ripost

and ds4 seems so bad

am I just bad

[orchid cipher]

where uncanny strike

[long oasis]

yes

jk

are you spamming heavies?

[runic grotto]

what else am I supposed to be spamming?

[long oasis]

lights on hordes

[runic grotto]

I mean, yea

ds4 sucks

bad weapon

needs buffs

I don't like it

[long oasis]

tru

what havoc did u play?

[runic grotto]

40

https://i.vgy.me/6sJ89W.png

Couldn't do shit

[craggy jackal]

unfortunately

pilot issue

[runic grotto]

I trully have no idea what the fuck am I supposed to do with ds

I don't like it

[orchid cipher]

beacon zealot isn't gonna get tons of damage anyhow

[runic grotto]

can someone just give me a h40 ds4 full build

[acoustic dune]

chat

[runic grotto]

Mostly just perks and blessings and what abilities do I pick

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-stare-jerma-jerma-stare-meme-gif-7356049281502534783

[runic grotto]

Because everything else stays the same

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-gif-19235352

[acoustic dune]

italian fish

[runic grotto]

https://i.vgy.me/qdLbOF.jpg
https://i.vgy.me/pecIFn.jpg
https://i.vgy.me/X0NykK.png

Do I do this?

[craggy jackal]

no scourge and desperation

odd choices indeed

[runic grotto]

what do I need scourge for?

I tought I was supposed to be oneshotting everything?

[acoustic dune]

why would the scalie need scourge

[candid furnace]

what uh perks and blessings for the tac axe?

[runic grotto]

headtaker bromentum

[craggy jackal]

well you dont one shot bosses

[runic grotto]

unarmored flak

[craggy jackal]

that

[runic grotto]

And what about thrust?

[mighty root]

No need

Precog and uncanny > thrust

[hexed igloo]

I can never tell if jerma has been edited

[acoustic dune]

but i love thrusting doh

[acoustic dune]

theres jerma edit?

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-funny-cursed-scream-gif-5324952133886346138

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-dessert-spank-jiggly-bunny-jiggly-gif-25255921

[acoustic dune]

me when i get you

[hexed igloo]

Me when you're mom

[mighty root]

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/sogga-sogga-gif-serval-sogga-hoodie-floppa-gif-20354825

[upbeat blaze]

Hello zealoters

[acoustic dune]

pealoters

[candid furnace]

How well does the tac axe do against bosses

[runic grotto]

If Precog and uncanny > thrust
Then surely thrust > precog or thrust > uncanny

[mighty root]

Pretty good if you’re using duelist and fury

[candid furnace]

what are some combos?

and what uh blessings and perks do you use

[mighty root]

Bosses? Heavy spam and push attack heavy spam

[mighty root]

Or light spam

[candid furnace]

What combos do you use for elites

[mighty root]

Mk 7 , brutal momentum, headtaker, flak unarmored

[mighty root]

Hordes / elites spam do push attack heavy or heavy light

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-zealot-build @candid furnace this is the build I run with it

Feel free to run stalwart and good balance for survivability

[candid furnace]

yk whats saying something zealot has so little builds that my build was exactly that

zealot is strong but needs a rework

so many things are just must haves

[mighty root]

@candid furnace clip of me using it

[candid furnace]

alr

[mighty root]

If it’s crit or even non crit it’ll still path the same lol

[candid furnace]

is weakspot just hte head

[mighty root]

Correct

[candid furnace]

alr just making sure

also whats the hud mod you use

[mighty root]

Numeric ui

[candid furnace]

is it just a setting to make the dodge bar look like its a part of the game and not a mod

[mighty root]

Show dodges I believe

I also use weapon fov

[craggy jackal]

the dodge looks like a stamina bar is a separate mod

[craggy jackal]

there is a reason all zealot builds are referred to as The Build tm

[quiet heath]

Did this get changed? Can't notice a difference between the two anymore

[plush estuary]

Iirc, somewhere/someone mentioned that they changed chain weapons 1st tick of damage system

Something like that

@ripe quest was it you?

[craggy jackal]

But you still want to do it mid rev because that lets you buff the next attack too

[quiet heath]

That might've been changed too, doesn't seem to happen anymore

[craggy jackal]

You are doing it incorrectly

Though I was unclear

You activate fotf while your revved attack is hitting an enemy

And that buffs the attack midway through and the one after it

[quiet heath]

Ah okay, so a little more like this then

[craggy jackal]

Yeah like that

[quiet heath]

Damn yeah that's a quarter more health off the bulwark

[craggy jackal]

And if there were 2 crushers

It would help a lot more

[ivory marlin]

do mortis trials count towards unlocking next difficulty?

[ripe quest]

It was. The active damage template lost overrides which generally means a higher damage value on the first tick if I understand the system correctly.

[candid furnace]

the tac axe is epic

[median steeple]

I do not think so

Pretty sure it's only normal mission boards

Could be wrong tho since I haven't played Morris this update

[mighty root]

Another one converted

@misty nova gaze apon my work

[mighty root]

Feel free to bring it into havoc

[hard nexus]

ur doing it wrong lol

[mighty root]

It’s good

[craggy jackal]

Yeah look a few messages down

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jNusv6r7cD9fkEfub?invite=cr-MSxreHgsMjA0ODY2MDQ3

as such

[craggy jackal]

We worked though it

[hard nexus]

damage overrides being removed increased the latch damage

[hard nexus]

yeah

[hard nexus]

if there was a change other than that though, id like to know

[mighty root]

Thank you sensei meow

Talking to a 30 year old chronically online wow playing goblin

The things I play for women

[median steeple]

Piratesodtware

[quiet heath]

It does feel a bit more satisfying, ngl

[candid furnace]

what does thte alt attack do on the tac axe mk7

[full nebula]

Special is a stagger mostly

[candid furnace]

al

alr

[spare talon]

hard stagger primarily
as of this last patch it has a similar profile to the light attacks so it deals real damage too now

[candid furnace]

ty

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4a08a3-60ed-4cb2-9a64-f979b7b9f3d1/test-180?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button target the weak or target priority

[spare talon]

target the weak

debuff so its multiplicitive
and basically always up cuz concussive

vs the other only working from the start

wont help against bosses or armor

[mighty root]

Guh so my tac axe build was right from the get go

[mighty root]

Does push on cleave effect bm in anyway?

Or tac axe?

[spare talon]

barely

feels slightly better into density but isnt doing much cuz of the low cleave to begin with and the cleave dmg cap

[mighty root]

Was actually thinking about taking true grit because of it but I’d it helps with density it’ll be fine

Guh

[mighty root]

What’s it capped at?

[spare talon]

3 targets for heavies/pa

[mighty root]

Guh

[spare talon]

if used naturally

thats why bm is so vital regardless of cleave

[mighty root]

In havoc it was stopping on 2 scab shotgunners with bm

Sometimes it would follow through to 3

Maybe just spaghetti code

Or maybe my buffs weren’t stacked

Can that also effect it?

Coleeeeeee

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1371151936228687994/pokes_you.gif

Why it be stoppin

https://tenor.com/view/cole-rinrinne-gif-7506522146377529476

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-cheese-gif-21912643

[copper hawk]

MUSTARD

[mighty root]

He was really lurking for dat

[copper hawk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uYORt4DEQDc?si=gqwiphw0f3tNkNr4

[runic grotto]

Fyre is like, the most awesome Darktide server member

Best shitposts

https://tenor.com/view/dmitry-puchkov-dance-gif-15517035

[ripe quest]

100% real no fake (no virus) pre-blitz zealot tree rework

[full nebula]

tbh

actually wouldn't be the worst way to format it

[runic grotto]

Literally nothing changes

[full nebula]

they should change nothing but they should put duelist under chorus

[runic grotto]

Your build still looks like this

https://i.vgy.me/LhQbTq.png

[stone fern]

no

[mild sparrow]

Two different knives now

[stone fern]

ONE NODE before and after blitz or i scream

[runic grotto]

except you can take purge the unclean for 1 point instead of 2

[full nebula]

but everyone is forced to take chorus if they want weakspot damage, but you do less damage because no FF

perfect balancing me thinks