zealot-class

[misty nova]

You can just ignore them as well???!???

[acoustic dune]

prob can do 2 keystone

[placid fiber]

I think you might have to ignore the upper ones to take one of the lower ones

[acoustic dune]

arbities has a lite bubble

shit has a better executionner

[misty nova]

No, I don't believe you

Yet

I'll wait for Kuli's insight

[placid fiber]

Am I missing something or does arbiter only have 1 toughness talent?

no wait there's a 2nd

1 is after the blitz options and 1 is before the upper 3 keystones

[misty nova]

Probably has tg already

Plus lots of tdr

[acoustic dune]

god i hope the new revolver

can go on any class

shit look meaty

o wait

[placid fiber]

they have sustained assault, but, it might work for both melee and ranged damage

[acoustic dune]

its shield only

[stone fern]

tbh

im kinda sad they only got 3 weapons

[placid fiber]

Also: this is literally from vt2 >.>

[acoustic dune]

good lord a sniper with a shield

[placid fiber]

I'm kind of tempted to try the shock maul and shield myself

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[acoustic dune]

tf is the different with the normal one

[placid fiber]

and they have the crusher <.<

[placid fiber]

It looks like it has more carapace damage

from the pen stat

[acoustic dune]

this things feels op

[placid fiber]

but worse flak damage

[acoustic dune]

it feels like martydom

[placid fiber]

the heavy has better carapace anyway

[misty nova]

What about unyielding though

[misty nova]

That's literally the only thing Smaul is bad at

[acoustic dune]

hory shit

no one shot

blud can eat an overhead

anytime

[deft atlas]

hi frens

[placid fiber]

inb4 they have 50 starting hp

😏

[acoustic dune]

what?

i dont get it

[placid fiber]

cause with no bonus health you would still get 1 shot >.>

Is there a way to view base stats?

[trail mantle]

they have 200 base hp from what I understand

[placid fiber]

oh there is

[deft atlas]

they built diffrent

[placid fiber]

they have psyker stamina regen delay

lol

[deft atlas]

never played siker so idk

[placid fiber]

Psyker has a 0.5s regen delay. zealot has a 0.75 regen delay(and 50% more regen(1.5)), idk ogryn's, and iirc vet is 1.0

it's 1s on ogryn

[misty nova]

200 HP by default

[deft atlas]

why do they get better stam regen thats not fair

pull out the pichforks

[misty nova]

They don't need HP curios

[deft atlas]

or somefin

[misty nova]

Baby class ngl

[deft atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/hd-smirk-gif-7206957141966421326

[placid fiber]

We have better regeneration per second, they just have a lower time before they get the default stamina regen

[acoustic dune]

i mean

[deft atlas]

ahh okay

[misty nova]

High critical chance as well

[acoustic dune]

i am planning on paying 20 dilla

[misty nova]

Yeah yeah
Paid class

I get it

[acoustic dune]

still doh

fucking insane

[trail mantle]

basically our stamina is for getting places theirs is for push attacks

[acoustic dune]

hope he is slower then an ogryn then

[placid fiber]

Arbiter has half the delay of oggy >.>

Oh, it says psyker has a 7.5% crit chance as wel >.>

[misty nova]

Psychic freak, low stamina delay, low stamina

Battle Hardened, rigorously trained soldier

High stamina delay

[placid fiber]

Tho technically vet does have stamina regen delay reduction talents >.>

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/frantaojeb-taxes-tax-daň-daňznemovitosti-gif-26311344

[glossy mural]

Your name has given me a similar desire.

[trail mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-nodding-nodding-yes-horse-nodding-silly-gif-5152303604886252799

[acoustic dune]

shield special is a flashbang????

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-six-siege-blitz-whatever-go-my-scarab-whatever-go-my-blitz-gif-4834391485211177025

[hearty nebula]

shock mine is gonna be funny

i am ready

[acoustic dune]

https://youtu.be/qnwSPPVg0DM?t=1948

naw...

my man ate 2 sniper shot and a burster

[glossy mural]

"I. AM. THE LAW."

[acoustic dune]

they have grenade regen

[glossy mural]

Holy shit.

What difficulty is this on?

[acoustic dune]

and the toughness regen on 1 coherency

[acoustic dune]

idk

[glossy mural]

Looks like Damnation. Heresy at least.

[acoustic dune]

either way thats op

[glossy mural]

Fitting since you have to pay real money for it.

[clever swan]

zealot is done for

washed up

[glossy mural]

Zealot will persist if only because it's free.

[clever swan]

zealot chat is gonna be a ghost town for weeks

[misty nova]

You assume zealots wash

[clever swan]

unwashed up

[acoustic dune]

as if it aint right now

zealot head

we are cooked

[glossy mural]

Kayex checking back in after assuming the strike team were all killed only to see the Arbitrator having killed like 12 Ogryns, eaten several Las Sniper shots, a pox burster, and fought his way through dozens of heretics:

"...unexpected."

[clever swan]

https://youtu.be/RRYmVb33VU0

[glossy mural]

btw what's the prefered dump stat for Relic Blades?

Mobility?

[acoustic dune]

check pin

[misty nova]

Yes

[glossy mural]

ty.

[chrome sphinx]

Is there any way I can do 'just a flesh wound' solo with bots? I just want to rush through with stealth. But it wont let me create a private lobby?

[lean cairn]

@obsidian ore do you have a referral link for arbites

[violet hornet]

Nah you must have at least one other player to create a strike team for a private match

[chrome sphinx]

that... really sucks

[violet hornet]

The penance does require a private match for it as well so if you did somehow manage to get into or solo a mission it would not count

You can check the vox-lfg channels for another in your region attempting the same penance, that's often a good way since you and another can get it together

You want to avoid using any build that gives additional wounds and either do the orthus offensive special mission or the rolling steel standard mission since those are short

And if all else fails you can ask @plush estuary if he's available, he's a bit of an expert on guiding other zealots through that particular penance

[chrome sphinx]

I see, ok thx

train map is best then?

this reddit thread said to run through rly fast with stealth and leave bots behind mostly

i dunno if thats best tho

[violet hornet]

Yeah that's where I got it, it had a time limit to finish the objective but doesn't end until you leave so it gives you little enough it's easy to complete on time but you have the option to hang out a bit at low hp after to ensure you have over 75% of the mission time under 1 wound

[chrome sphinx]

i wouldve rly liked to try that with 3 bots... its a shame u can't do a private game solo

[plush estuary]

train map best and cant do solo

[violet hornet]

They definitely should have allowed that to be solo after they made it private only, but then they'd have to add unmodded solo and we can't have that

[grizzled aspen]

Chat is it morally correct to print models that can go invisible in lore (like lictors) as a clear plastic and then never paint them?

[acoustic dune]

i mean

atleast paint the stand

[fossil crag]

tha nks

[misty ravine]

is it morally correct to print models
Yes. The rest is mere commentary.

[heady rapids]

has anyone checked on vet chat

are people on suicide watch there

after arbites reveal

[clever swan]

probably

zealot chat will live on by sheer cultural will alone. but what does vet chat have? path?

[heady rapids]

yeah buh muh evis buffs whatever man im gonnab e dogging it on the 23rd

[grizzled aspen]

I dont think arbites reveal would be what puts them on suicide watch tbh. Ds and plasma nerfs being on the horizon would be what does.

[heady rapids]

That would be two different player groups

[grave portal]

is arbites that much similar to and better than vet lmao

[hushed knoll]

Is it morally acceptable to be so cool like you?

[heady rapids]

he's an all rounder

[clever swan]

[heady rapids]

good at everything but doesn't really excel

well

[grave portal]

ah interesting

[heady rapids]

maybe good is an understatement

[grave portal]

I'm curious about the path where you control the dog, sucks it's paid dlc

in a game w paid cosmetics that shit shouldn't exist ☠️

[heady rapids]

what do paid cosmetics have to do with a paid class

We've been getting dozens of free content drops since the games release

[visual stream]

Six voice actors, every single one having hundreds of voice lines, with an entire class and multiple unique weapons

Plus what Blade said, we've gotten consistent support and content updates for free

[grave portal]

that they're getting, hopefully, plenty money off paid cosmetics

a paid game with a paid cosmetics shops is ridiculous to begin with

[opaque island]

extra classes have been paid since Vermintide 1, is everyone really that suprised?

[visual stream]

If you don't like the shop

[heady rapids]

so how do you propose devs get money past release

[grave portal]

still don't agree considering it's a new class

[grave portal]

that's what the shop is for no?

[visual stream]

Don't buy and simply use penance cosmetics

[grave portal]

thanks for the advice but I've been doing that lol

never gonna give them more than what I paid for already

[visual stream]

Not to namecall but I hate when gamers are entitled

[opaque island]

fr though the extra classes have always been paid, why are you suprised?

[grave portal]

eh, if it was a f2p i wouldn't have any issues with it

[grave portal]

i started with dt so i wouldn't know

[visual stream]

An extremely replayable game for $40 vs. slop of duty for $70 every year

[clever swan]

wanting free content is part of a gamer's blood so I cant blame em

[heady rapids]

we got 8 for free

[visual stream]

This is extremely servicable for us

[grave portal]

and the comparison comes in where? i haven't paid for a cod in like 10 years ☠️

[visual stream]

It's a great deal considering the state the industry is in, is the point

It'd be a great deal even if the industry wasn't in a shit state

[grave portal]

debatable but let's agree to disagree

[opaque island]

how is the game industry not in a shit state? or do you mean it being a great deal

[grave portal]

both are debatable

[visual stream]

Probably the latter

[grave portal]

but like i said, let's agree to disagree

[visual stream]

Oh that's not

[grave portal]

I don't wanna debate about the industry

☠️

[clever swan]

game industry has released a lot of huge failures recently

[low coyote]

yall remember skull and bones

[trail mantle]

mind's eye

[clever swan]

ac shadows, concord...

[misty mason]

They really need to stop posting in the Announcements channel "Cool Update Patch: Blog, IS NOW LIVE"

Like cmon, that feels like a troll

[hushed knoll]

DANTHONY HIII 😍😍😍😍

[misty mason]

HI stang

[hushed knoll]

Do you like my dinner

[misty mason]

You seem to have posted a picture of butter with a spoon in it, rather than your actual dinner

[hushed knoll]

@acoustic dune

[hushed knoll]

It’s not butter and it is dinner

[misty mason]

What is that, like custard? Whey?

[violet hornet]

could be vanilla pudding or melted american cheese

[obsidian prairie]

Margarine

[hushed knoll]

It’s banana cream pudding

[misty mason]

PUDDING IS DESSERT STAN

NOT DINNER

[violet hornet]

that's dessert, not dinner

[hushed knoll]

Why would I eat melted American cheese with a spoon

This is the first time I’ve made instant pudding

It’s addicting

[misty mason]

That would be closer to a dinner

[placid fiber]

[plush estuary]

guess weapons

[violet hornet]

if your pudding has the instructions for making it in a shaker I would recommend that. I don't know why but it came out much fluffier when I did that vs trying to whip it in a bowl, even with an electric hand mixer

[hushed knoll]

I want to mix pudding all day

[hushed knoll]

I whisked it with Italy for 2 minutes

[clever swan]

[hushed knoll]

Milk*

[grizzled aspen]

What class?

[hushed knoll]

Holy shit pudding would make a great memory foam mattress

[plush estuary]

zealot

[grizzled aspen]

Crusher + combat shotgun.

Prob slug.

[plush estuary]

Hsword agri combat shotgun

[grizzled aspen]

I was close.

Got the shotgun right.

[void bison]

what is up zealot chat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[placid fiber]

got half of it, yeah

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-get-away-shoo-disappear-gif-5683568285290773389

[placid fiber]

even the mk as well

[visual stream]

I thought Tzarina Katarin's VA would've been on the Fatalist tbh

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frogs-frog-dance-cute-frog-pixie-frog-gif-3247309320219181848

[hushed knoll]

Hi yog

[visual stream]

Surprised that it's Lae-zel's VA there

[grizzled aspen]

Oh no now I can't make a male arbites...

[clever swan]

(posts a pic of frog legs the food item but doesnt actually because that would be mean)

[wary lagoon]

How many wound curios do I equip on a martyrdom build?

[plush estuary]

+3

[visual stream]

My thoughts too when I heard the line-up on all three

[grizzled aspen]

3 wounds or 2 wounds 1 toughness.

[visual stream]

Kerillian's is on the Maul too

[hushed knoll]

HI LEGGY BIRD

[visual stream]

HI STAN

[heady rapids]

My thoughts exactly until I heard male maul

[wary lagoon]

Do I also take the wound talent?

[plush estuary]

yes

[grizzled aspen]

Well, I rip the names of my characters from other forms of media, and I was going to make my arbites male and name him Thel-Vadam.

[hushed knoll]

NO THIS IS PHOTOSHOP

[grizzled aspen]

But now I have to choose a female name instead.

[hushed knoll]

Also why are you calling me Stang

[visual stream]

Not only is that good for the keystone, it also makes you not waste a talent point on the unholy dogshit that is Martyr's Purpose

[grizzled aspen]

Stank. 🫵

[heady rapids]

just add an e

[misty mason]

wdym stand?

[hushed knoll]

No.

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[hushed knoll]

Go to bedge wtf

[void bison]

I just ignore/block anyone who actually does that usually

[grizzled aspen]

I don't change or warp the names I rip.

[misty mason]

no u

[clever swan]

[grizzled aspen]

My uncle Rupert got turned into frog legs...

Not cool, bro...

[placid fiber]

as one should

[clever swan]

[void bison]

I am awaiting rimworld odyssey even though I rarely play ribworld

[misty mason]

tfw big frog

[stone fern]

bruh

[void bison]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/MaoGoLan-22-Giant-Frog-Stuffed-Animal-Large-Green-Frog-Plush-Toy/1349086120?classType=VARIANT

[wary lagoon]

Not touching rimworld again until it officially supports Z levels instead of being a mod

[stone fern]

what the fuck is that

[acoustic dune]

i saw a man eat 2 sniper shot and a pox burster

[stone fern]

that talent is made straight for havoc

[wary lagoon]

Childhood memories from RS

[stone fern]

go ahead girlie

[acoustic dune]

back to back

[stone fern]

eat that overhead

[grizzled aspen]

Brother, just play dwarf fortress, then.

[acoustic dune]

you should see the toughness regen

on 1 coherency

[stone fern]

i did

[void bison]

i am fine without z levels

[visual stream]

Is the authoritarian supposed to be the in-between personality?

[placid fiber]

On my way to do that with this arbiter talent

[stone fern]

arbites is gonna be ogryn/zealot/vet in one class

[misty mason]

Gib evisc buff nao

[grizzled aspen]

That seems broken as fuck what the hell???

I'm never going to tolerate people saying until death is op when THAT exists.

[misty mason]

cant wait to jump off a cliff and only take 50 damage, then ascend as a new god

[visual stream]

Tanking four crusher overheads

[stone fern]

eh chip damage is still big

[placid fiber]

To be honest, how many attacks are hitting for over 50 damage without most or all of your toughness gone?

[clever swan]

it does seem kinda op

[acoustic dune]

they also have grenade regen

shit is crazy

[stone fern]

ye

[grizzled aspen]

It legit means free sniper shot without having to worry about it.

[heady rapids]

it seems really weak esp compared to dr you get

[clever swan]

the most dangerous mfs in the game are mailers and crushers (fuck autocorrect)

[heady rapids]

more like training wheels

[stone fern]

they get 80 dr

[heady rapids]

that are gonna make people bad against shit like crushers

[grizzled aspen]

Mailers...

[heady rapids]

and not learn shit

[void bison]

I suck most at fighting monstrosities in vt2 and darktide

[grizzled aspen]

90% of the player base is already bad against crushers.

[placid fiber]

btw you can skip one of these keystones, I think you have to in order to grab one of the 3 lower ones >.>

[heady rapids]

then hop to a different class and get one shot

[grizzled aspen]

The only hard monster in vt2 is the rat ogre, imo.

[placid fiber]

What?

[grizzled aspen]

Very, very short telegraphing of attacks.

[void bison]

I don't really check their virility just how difficult they are to fight

[grizzled aspen]

Bile troll is easiest.

[placid fiber]

You move in to bait a ground pound and back off

that's the rat ogre

[misty mason]

Minotaur and stormvermin are annoyin

[placid fiber]

Rat Ogre is so easy to bait

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah no I usually don't get to fight rat ogres because I keep getting Saltz's in my games that instakill them.

[acoustic dune]

did someone check the cdr of arbities?

[heady rapids]

he has uhh

not a lot actually

[placid fiber]

You walk close to it to bait a fist slam, dodge backwards

[grizzled aspen]

Bounty hunter calmly approaches rat ogre and removes its head from its body.

[heady rapids]

right ult can get you up to 1/4th charge back from using it

[visual stream]

Why didn't they just make this a stat node

???

[misty mason]

Dear god, please let borderlands 4 tank super hard, that would be so fucking funny

[heady rapids]

and left keystone gives you +50% cdr speed

[acoustic dune]

easy
rizz

[heady rapids]

or was it not keystone

idk

first class that can take two keystones btw

[acoustic dune]

gotta flex on them plebs

[grizzled aspen]

Randy Pitchford already killed half the momentum it had.

[heady rapids]

and then look at vet

vet can't even take one!

loser class

arbite f2w

[visual stream]

Concussive talent looks so fucking good what

[wary lagoon]

I saw a vid say that the Shocking Stuff penance also lets you do it with friendly zealot stun nades in spite of the description. Is this true or a bug?

[misty mason]

Yeah thats why I hope it tanks

[visual stream]

skullcrusher on bosses for free

[grizzled aspen]

It's actually impressive how hard he fumbled bl4. Half the momentum gone in one fucking tweet.

[visual stream]

Same with crushers

[acoustic dune]

you should have saw the shield special

a flashbang

stagger everything

[misty mason]

Ive never enjoyed borderlands, so have no interest in it, but I just want pitchford to suffer lol

[grizzled aspen]

The penance only checks that the enemies in question have been stunned by a stun grenade. It does not check that its your stun.

[heady rapids]

can't wait to play ogryn on the 23rd

[misty mason]

Imagine not playing improved evisc zealot on the 23rd

[placid fiber]

my favorite part of 2 was popping the head of a goliath and watching it go ham on its allies

[visual stream]

Shield/maul? That was one of the ones I didn't look at

That's sick

[acoustic dune]

wait till you sheck the shield revolver

[heady rapids]

revolver doesn't come without the shield btw

[placid fiber]

It's just a shotpistol that has a shield iirc

[wary lagoon]

Now if only I could make use of that knowledge

[grizzled aspen]

By "shotpistol" I'm assuming it's a judge?

[visual stream]

AGAIN

MAKE IT A STAT NODE

[grizzled aspen]

Like, shotgun revolver.

[placid fiber]

idk

[obsidian prairie]

Its cooler this way

[placid fiber]

I just am thinking of a shotgun that is pistol sized

[heady rapids]

stat nodes are harder to click

[obsidian prairie]

shush

[grizzled aspen]

The only reason I could see them doing these nodes this way is that they somehow interact differently with toughness curios.

[visual stream]

Maybe

[hushed knoll]

That’s so early please sleep

You’re so tired

[visual stream]

They add the +25 toughness after other calculation I would guess

Well +50 since there's two

[heady rapids]

they should give every other class +25 toughness

it's not fair that people can just pay for it

[placid fiber]

With those 2 talents you have 150 toughness without any bonus toughness nodes

[grizzled aspen]

That depends entirely on the base toughness pool and how many toughness nodes are in the tree.

[placid fiber]

200 health, 100 toughness

for arbiter

[grizzled aspen]

And how much toughness does vet have?

[placid fiber]

lemme check

[grizzled aspen]

I'm sure it's fair.

[placid fiber]

150 health, 100 toughness

[grizzled aspen]

How many other passive nodes does arbites have?

[heady rapids]

vet mentions in the big 25

[placid fiber]

none for toughness

[grizzled aspen]

Because I know off the rip that vet has a 25 and a 15 that are basically free.

You already path to both of them in 90% of cases.

[placid fiber]

there's only 2 toughness nodes that are 25 each on arbiter

[misty mason]

Oh clip size boost, interesting

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah then that's fair lmao.

That's not a pay to win for more toughness.

[placid fiber]

Yep

[misty mason]

I assume that rounds down, cause thats just shy of being enough for turning our 6 shot revolver into a 7 shot

[placid fiber]

oh, ogryn literally doesn't get any bonuses from these lol

[heady rapids]

12$ just for them to lir

lie

[placid fiber]

I didn't know until earlier than psyker has a 7.5% base crit chance >.>

[grizzled aspen]

If my math is mathing then no, the revolver will not get a 7th shot.

[placid fiber]

It rounds up

[misty mason]

Yeah thats what I said

[placid fiber]

but uh

[misty mason]

15% of 6 is .9

[placid fiber]

15% of 6... is .9

.9 rounded up is 1

[grizzled aspen]

Then, chat, pray for the customers I've checked out at my store today, because my math ain't mathing.

Hope I got their change right!

[ripe quest]

The mythical 7th bullet in a gun that can only hold 6.

[heady rapids]

also

arbites call other arbites rejects

[clever swan]

arbites assassinated jfk confirmed (magic bullet)

[placid fiber]

If it rounds up... it has to have at least 4 total rounds in the mag to get an extra bullet, unless it rounds up no matter what the value is above 0

[misty mason]

I just assumed it would count decimals

[placid fiber]

If it is the latter part of this, the db shotty would have 3 shots

[misty mason]

If they round up, yeah, thats gonna be interesting seeing 7 bullets in the 6 shot

[placid fiber]

There's no way they'd let the db shotty get 3 shots, right?

Then again this is fatshark we're talking about... <.<'

[grizzled aspen]

If db gets a 3rd shot... does rmb fire all 3?

[placid fiber]

That is my question as well lol

[grizzled aspen]

🤔

Does... reloading it... reload all 3..?

[placid fiber]

Exactly

[grizzled aspen]

🤔

[heady rapids]

it does go to 3

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/wyaking-gif-9712475764034023502

[grizzled aspen]

That's kind of stupid.

[placid fiber]

It also would be kinda based

Allowing 3 shots on a db shotty

[obtuse garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zipzipzip-meme-tiktok-cats-love-gif-11005608320366495930

[heady rapids]

it does what it says it does which is a rare occurrence

[grizzled aspen]

Unless fart shack has some secret cosmetics for arbites if they take that talent where your weapons have more space for ammo.

Like a 7th slot for a bullet in your revolver or a 3rd barrel on your db.

[placid fiber]

I'm more interested in the 50 health damage node for when I fuck up against a crusher/sniper lol

Oh fuck I'm de- Oh, wait... I have 200 health...

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, 200 hp means at least 3 free fuckups without hp curios.

[misty mason]

Yeah Im gonna run off the assumption that only whole numbers increase the clip unless I hear official confirmation

[grizzled aspen]

It's going to be way more unbalanced than until death ever thought of being.

[placid fiber]

With 1% bonus hp it allows up to 4

[heady rapids]

check arbite chat

[placid fiber]

Then again arbiter doesn't have a hitstun immunity, right?

[heady rapids]

it rounds up

[placid fiber]

It wouldn't say that it rounds up if only whole numbers were being taken into account

[misty mason]

I didnt realise they had confirmed it rounds up

If that's all they've said then there's still the question of whether round up means .5+=1 or if any decimal =1

[placid fiber]

Imagine a rumbler having 2 shots

it'd be out of ammo in like 5 seconds

[heady rapids]

2 rounds up to 3

[misty mason]

That def does mean 7 shot revolver though lol

[heady rapids]

there is no single shot human wep

[placid fiber]

which would mean every gun would get a bonus from it...

Which... if 0.3 rounds up, then I'd probably assume 0.15 would round up as well...

[misty mason]

Its kind of wild that this talen is just sort of sitting in the tree, since it seems to be a borderline critical talent for one of the sides of the tree

[acoustic dune]

with a keystone all about stagger

wild

[misty mason]

A significant portion of the nodes on the right are to do with stagger

[acoustic dune]

its a giant fuckoff revolver

[hushed knoll]

Did you like my pudding

[acoustic dune]

didnt see

[acoustic dune]

it seem

[misty mason]

Christ they can get so much stacked melee damage

[acoustic dune]

edible

[opaque island]

I think thats the first thing ive seen you post that id consider edible

[acoustic dune]

if only the arbities get a thammer

[clever swan]

all they need is crusher

[misty mason]

Im reading that my current build can get about +140% melee damage and +35% melee speed

[heady rapids]

I know I'm getting a smite grenade, smite ult and a smite keystone

and a smite melee with a smite shotgun

idk which nade tho
the smite station or the smite dog....

[opaque island]

im noticing a theme here

[ripe quest]

I love a talent that's literally just like "+80% damage on melee weakspot hit for 4s" with any skullcrusher weapon.

[drowsy steppe]

gotta have a succesful launch

then nerf it to a more acceptable state 1 major patch from now

[ripe quest]

Bold to assume they'll nerf if when they want to just nerf Skullcrusher.

🙂

[acoustic dune]

both?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmk_a8QwgJE

what are they up to now

[misty nova]

Innate Trauma

Well
Not really
But yes really

[hushed knoll]

wtf how

[opaque island]

dont even front

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1385360174692307055/ReleaseMe.mov?ex=6855c8b4&is=68547734&hm=6602f770aca5c4531f0e25e1ea8071702eeabd1359e6893ab1d9021d5b0abc52& got matched with a rumbler og

[ripe quest]

It's the part of trauma that extends stagger windows except way worse for balance but also not actually stagger.

[visual stream]

I assume not but I wonder if that also makes you have more total ammo beyond the first clip

Either way that plus the +25% ammo is big

Also peep that they snatched no less than two talents almost exactly from vet

[misty nova]

Schrodinger's Stagger

😭

[misty mason]

Hmm how would the 5s stagger on weakspot work for bosses?

Was it 5s?

Either wy that seems like perma stagger

[hushed knoll]

You can't be serious

[visual stream]

I feel like that's the biggest point of the talent tbh

It would be stank if it didn't work on monstros

I mean there's ogryns but still

[acoustic dune]

i thought its the i can eat 4 one shot back to back

[visual stream]

I don't think the bosses really do over 50 damage on most of their attacks unless you're 0% toughness or close to it

[acoustic dune]

either way

shit is insane

[opaque island]

does this look like a joking face

[visual stream]

True

Arbites doesn't care about head trauma from crushers

They have enough to start with :^)

[acoustic dune]

all of his brain went into the dog

[misty mason]

Its still one of the most important nodes in the tree imo, even if it doesn't work on bosses

Note that talen isn't 50 damage, it's 50 HEALTH damage

So if you have 100 health and 100 toughness and take 200 damage, it'd still take 50 health

[hushed knoll]

WTF I've been playing this game for 2.5 years and I JUST realized there are actual totems that tell you where respawn points are

[misty mason]

But yeah it makes health curios a better option

[hushed knoll]

[visual stream]

Oh yeah for sure, at least for anyone using skullcrusher blessing or aura

There are a couple of other talents that proc on "stagger" too but I think skrusher is the biggest benefit at a glance

[ripe quest]

It isn't actual stagger, stuff is just counted as if they're staggered. It works on bosses.

It's by far the strongest node if you have Skullcrusher.

Free 80% damage on any enemy you hit for 4s.

[copper hawk]

Galorp

[hollow meteor]

Gip glap

[lunar fable]

[desert fractal]

hey hi hello zealots

I hope you all are having good night

[lunar fable]

[jagged cradle]

are you free

[visual stream]

@placid fiber Close enough, welcome back crowbar risk of rain

[hearty nebula]

REAL

[visual stream]

Also thinking about it, new reason to hate smykers just dropped

[hearty nebula]

Crowbar my beloved

[visual stream]

Making every enemy in the room under 75%

Thinking of arbites with thunder hammer and this talent 🤤

[hearty nebula]

Arbites gonna be p nasty strong

lol

[ivory marlin]

I got a question about our dear arbiter

Does the dog get a separate tree?

Or do we gotta use our levels into the dog

[sterile basalt]

They don’t have thunder hammer I think

[jagged cradle]

there’s no thunder hammer

there’s something even better the crusher

[visual stream]

I'm aware sadly

[visual stream]

Our levels for dog talents

[ivory marlin]

Oh ok so the talents for dog are in main tree

I see

[visual stream]

They have some pretty good ones though

[ivory marlin]

Thanks damnation bird ily

[misty mason]

🧑‍🦲 🫵 @lunar fable

[mighty root]

Holy shit the skill tree is insane

[visual stream]

Don't tell vet chat but arbites tree stole 3 talents and a keystone from them and put it on a cooler class

Doomposting will be real

[runic grotto]

They also stole a psyker keystone

And zealot charge

And psyker bubble

[visual stream]

Mhm

[runic grotto]

They have a lot of simmilar things to other classes

[visual stream]

And zealot aura~

[runic grotto]

They literally have loner+++

[visual stream]

But it stole a lot from vet xd

Oh I meant Benediction but yeah actually

Stole two zealot auras into one

[runic grotto]

Well, they cost real money, they better be good

[visual stream]

Not busted, but good

Which is about what Cole insinuated

[runic grotto]

They are still weaker than ogryn, lmao

[visual stream]

Well it would be pay to win if it wasn't now, wouldn't it

[carmine falcon]

only because ogryn is comically broken

i like that they're not as op

you will actually have to use your brain now

[runic grotto]

Still they are really strong

[carmine falcon]

exactly

strong but not delete everything in 10 seconds strong

[eternal ivy]

I've not been able to find a single explanation as to what the removal of the "damage override" means for the eviscerator. Is such a feature on other weapons in the game, all of them? None of them? What the fuck is this feature.

[runic grotto]

evis deals zero damage after cleaving 3 or 4 enemies

They removed that

At least I think that's it?

[eternal ivy]

I thought they called that the cleave target damage cap or something similar

Cause I know the thammer knocks a lot more dudes around than it damages.

[runic grotto]

I think I'm most likely wrong

[north sedge]

removed the cleave cap on lights, heavy never had that problem

[runic grotto]

Light Vanguard/Relentless

Upped damage on secondary targets
Removed damage cap after 4th target

yea

[hushed knoll]

[runic grotto]

I was wrong

But what does this mean I honestly have no idea

Light Strikedown (Special active)

Removed damage overrides
Removed finesse multiplier override

Light Vanguard/Heavy Strikedown/Pushfollow (Special active)

Removed damage overrides

[visual stream]

I'm assuming they gave those attacks lower damage/finesse specifically at creation

And now they removed that

Just a guess

[runic grotto]

Whatever they removed, it's good

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027335984964190312/1385069985432338523/SfKbctB.mp4?ex=68560bf1&is=6854ba71&hm=7a82f125ddf61017cdd311cf5420c88bb8f072864cf5549313c20df6f3642fd6& @sullen forge @hexed igloo

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/car-burning-floombo-fire-drilly-gif-2697904986842148483

[median steeple]

CAR

Noooo

[visual stream]

do you have any ibuprofen

i got a headache

[runic grotto]

I have an unreasonable amount of Car videos and gifs

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/garn-47-garn47-car-cat-death-gif-13407397251537098697

[runic grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/265211565882605568/1349415619162013828/Garn47_-_1897922251246518479_-_GIF_1.gif

[opal solar]

It's been a minute, but to all the people who doubted me when I said the new weapons would be locked behind arbites, I told you so.

[hard nexus]

it does damage to them all, it’s just a very small amount of damage

[north sedge]

new weapons locked to the new class? insanity

[hard nexus]

weeellllll

h1 did have that problem too for a while, but it was removed ages ago

it just didn’t really affect the evis at all for a variety of reasons

namely terrible cleave damage distribution

[opal solar]

I was actually surprised at the pushback I got in this channel for making that claim.

[hard nexus]

whoever was saying that is kinda just

stupid

lmfao

obviously the weapons revealed with arbites are going to be exclusives

i’m really excited to see how much they increase damage distribution on the mk3 evis

guh

i’m so excited for the evis buff

[opal solar]

Granted, I only said that they'd be locked behind the purchase, I wasn't expecting them to all be class exclusive.

[hard nexus]

buffing H1 finesse is gonna be huge now that i think about it

i don’t know if H2 is gonna be worth using still though

while H2 does get more carapace damage, i didn’t see anything regarding an overall damage buff

which, revved H2 really doesn’t deal all that much more damage than revved H1

a chastise trick H2 does about 500 more unyielding damage than a chastise trick H1

[hard nexus]

oh yah that’s a bit different

anyway i yap

[lunar fable]

[opal solar]

I even pointed out that vermintide 2 locked all new weapons behind the various paid dlc, which sets a precedent. 'Different team, so they won't.'

[hard nexus]

ok nvm i checked

it’s getting a bit of a damage bump

we’ll see if it’s enough

guh i’m so excited for this

way more than i should be

also ainz u smell

when i yap its awesome

yall just don’t get me

[opal solar]

I don't like the chain weapons, but I'm perfectly fine to see people using more than just the usual.

[plush estuary]

I watch the yap

https://tenor.com/view/aitor-gif-7084060237011549479

[hard nexus]

i have been #1 evis supporter

for so long

and i am finally

vindicated

i have like 3 writeups on evis

[delicate shadow]

good!

[hard nexus]

aquila i need to know if the maniac hitmass multiplier is changed at all

it was a hidden stat that’s never been mentioned without datamining

[delicate shadow]

(I don't know)

[hard nexus]

so i doubt they’d mention it if it was changed

growl

i have to kill you now

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-elf-elf-light-fire-looking-into-light-gif-21174314

[opal solar]

I like heavy sword, and more recently relic blade. I can't ever get a build going that makes thunderhammer feel good for me to use.

Would love a greataxe for zealot.

Even though I'll probably end up never using it :x

[delicate shadow]

I'd nut if we got a poleaxe

[mighty root]

This is really scary

[outer gulch]

Chain glaive

[mighty root]

Can I see theory crafted build for the new class?

[delicate shadow]

(just copypaste cole's build and don't say anything)

[teal carbon]

ive gotten mah classes to 30, and i wanna make a zealot hammar build, big damage makes me happy, any recomendations for a 1 hit build?

(please and ty)

[misty mason]

Hey Aquila

[drowsy steppe]

reasonable

[misty mason]

Can you make them go back and re-record how they pronounce Nuncio

I dun like it 🥲

[delicate shadow]

I hate how they pronounce Arbites to begin with lol

we be doomed

[misty mason]

I actually havent heard them say the word

I havent been watching the trailers too much

Should be Are bee tez

Anglicized Are Bee tes

[drowsy steppe]

Noon-Chee-yo

Noon Cho

[delicate shadow]

the official GW pronounciation is "Arbeedees"

[misty mason]

its not Italian mang

[drowsy steppe]

its Latin smh

the predecessor to Italian

or you can go with the cursed classic latin pronounciation

[misty mason]

Nun-chee oh is the italian way

[drowsy steppe]

Noon-Kee-Yo

[median steeple]

Are-beh-tez

[north sedge]

"I'm thinking Arbite's"

[misty mason]

Should be Nun key oh

[drowsy steppe]

we should pronounce it Ar-bee-tez instead

[zealous basin]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[north sedge]

arbites should do 🤌 whenever they use nuncio

[delicate shadow]

Nahn-Kai-Oh

[misty mason]

Ahh fa benneeeeeyyyy stracitella nun chi oh

[drowsy steppe]

Aquila

Ah-Kwee-Lah

[delicate shadow]

Akwee-LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[drowsy steppe]

ngomong apaan nuncio aquila memang gak jelas

[misty mason]

ahhh nun chi ohh spaghetttti

[pallid hemlock]

no breaking nuncio in half

[carmine falcon]

abrababeeeess

habibis....

[misty mason]

Anyone got a clip where they say are bee dees?

🏴‍☠️ 🐝 's

[drowsy steppe]

arbites

[median steeple]

Gloompglomp

[misty mason]

Ohhh nooo

I just hear Reginald say it (idk who that is but its on the official youtube channel) and it reallly is are bee deez

I thought it was just an english dialect making it sound like are bee deez

But this mf is north American lol

They really picked the worst option lmao

[ripe quest]

To make it extremely simple, they just made it so the listed attacks are exact in damage with their parent templates. They're all buffs.

Those overrides usually are just for the first target on the actives.

[drowsy steppe]

YT subtitles got it right

[median steeple]

I mean yeah he's gonna say it that way since the "official" pronunciation is Are-Bee-Dees but that's stupid

In game darktide (at least rannick) says Are-beh-tez

[ripe quest]

R - bite - eez is peak

R - bites is freakish

[misty mason]

R bite eez is demented mang

[obsidian prairie]

Arbys

We have the meats

[ripe quest]

r bite deez nuts

[misty mason]

Im guessing Are Bee Deez is just a cockney trying to pronounce it

Like a chimney sweep from merry poppins saying arbites

Adepd us Orrr bee dees

[ripe quest]

Could do are - buy - deez

🙂

[drowsy steppe]

ar-bee-tez

[misty mason]

Why are you suggesting incorrect pronunciation Ex

[delicate shadow]

I'm so sad

[misty ravine]

That is stupid. Nobody (that I've ever heard anyways) says "Are Bee Trary" or "Are Bee Tration" so why do they say "Are Bee Tees"

[drowsy steppe]

ARG Chivalry 2

[delicate shadow]

legit

[brave cypress]

I think it would be funny if the judge zealot tries to butt in on the arbites conversations

[brave cypress]

and the savant psyker

[plush estuary]

wild specimens

[runic grotto]

The only correct way to pronounce arbites is ahr-BIH-tehs because latin

[delicate shadow]

that's how I thought it was pronounced

and then GW said "get fucked"

[runic grotto]

Fuck GW

[runic grotto]

That's the only way to pronounce it truly correctly

[faint pine]

I'm glad i wasnt the only one saying it that way

[plush estuary]

who has the bleed knife gif

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ghost-turn-warhammer-40k-gif-1103157494713790475

I don't

[violet hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1377682448040722432/bloodknife.gif

[plush estuary]

yes

[violet hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1378375016755757076/bleed_doom1.jpg?ex=68561484&is=6854c304&hm=961882b93479570bb0a84e2f2282ab824ec02d5c2b967b050b23a186226440fe&

[north sedge]

My work lives on

[north solar]

Not running 5%crit chance try again.

[spare bone]

which perk is the best for the flamer?

im running crit chance + 25% dmg towards an enemy type, which type should i choose?

[hard nexus]

pins

scroll down a bit

[spare bone]

aight

[hard nexus]

@spare bone

[spare bone]

thanks

[spare bone]

what abt everlasting flame on a crit build?

[hard nexus]

meh

don’t need it

more damage means less ammo kills more

meaning you need less ammo, which makes up for a lack of everlasting flames

also, you kill everything in a canister already

aside from bosses and crushers

[spare bone]

i see

[hard nexus]

it’s a fun meme build but you aren’t really getting all that much value out of it

[spare bone]

even on havoc?

like bigger hordes and such

[hard nexus]

yeah, flamer has infinite cleave

enemy density does not matter aside from bulwarks

bulwarks are the only thing that can stop a flamer from cleaving

however you will still inflict burn onto the bulwark itself

[spare bone]

alr thanks for the info

[jagged cradle]

you better be grateful

[plush estuary]

dodge at right time

hit trapper with Dbarrel (no hit reg)

gets trapped and dies

[median steeple]

Get netcoded

[plush estuary]

you see blood come off of her

after I shot her

[median steeple]

Yeah you got robbed

Insane really

[mighty root]

@spare talon you heard him

[spare talon]

https://youtu.be/PXlwLqXVIPM?si=xTPMT2nTckQatxN_&t=949

[mighty root]

heard the shot saw the blood but no spent ammo guh

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/on-god-dog-gif-23958656

sannk you

[plush estuary]

@spare talon

are you able to explain this?

how does burger get hit twice while inside

isnt BoN not able to hit the person eaten?

[spare talon]

its a bug that happens sometimes

another reason why the phrase fuck slugs rings true

[plush estuary]

I'm still confused

I think it might be because of the downed bot right there

[delicate shadow]

FRICK SLUGS

frickin fricks

https://tenor.com/view/frick-sammy-classic-sonic-fand-gif-14627446

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-drinking-slurms-surfing-gif-9212967

[spare bone]

whats that supposed to mean 😭

[hard nexus]

@spare talon

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-47-cat-game-gif-18225718487563422536

[misty mason]

Cole make them fix how they say nuncio

[frozen kernel]

Saw a clip like yesterday where a burster detonated and killed someone in slug belly. It’s a terrible curse

Combine that with bursters eating pushes recently and you’ve got a great time to introduce a new class based around stagger

[plush estuary]

duo time

melee psyker

[jagged cradle]

they’re so… mentally challenged

[clever swan]

that one's fault looked like it'd hurt

[modern lintel]

something you may have in common

[jagged cradle]

you’ve got the wrong guy pal

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-cat-sus-suspicious-cat-side-eye-cat-meme-gif-11842087146493734807

[tacit totem]

is there a specific type of curios (reliquary, caged) or does that matter? and does the gear rating even matter since the affixe numbers r the same no matter what right?

[grizzled aspen]

The only things that matter are what the curio does and its magnitude. Hp caps out at 21%, toughness at 17%, stamina at +3, and wounds only increase by 1. Note that +3 stamina curios beneath a 410 rating are fakes, because fatshark is wack and still haven't fixed that.

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-stare-stare-smh-capybara-side-eye-side-eye-gif-9371644960707312849

[misty nova]

Hiss breakers are so ass

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[copper hawk]

Flippin flips

[hard nexus]

peak

[copper hawk]

weak

[ripe quest]

Heyo, sorry for the bit late reply. Don't run crit chance on the Flamer. The benefit of it applying two stacks of fire on crit and specifically the crit chance perk's impact on that lead to a barely noticeable change in performance. Even with Everlasting Flame, Blazing Piety would be preferred.

[copper hawk]

@sullen forge

was that u

wait no

it wasn't

zigh..

[sullen forge]

Idk what you're talking about

[copper hawk]

YES

YES IT WAS

[sullen forge]

Unsure who that was

I was trying some evil ass DB Shovel build and then felt hallow not using the Agri IX

so now im using the Agri IX

I walked two feet forward saw some zealot named "devout_femboi" and then they immediately vanished from existence

bigfoot sighting

[clever swan]

would've been a shame if i didnt check this when i did

[copper hawk]

@sullen forge

[grizzled aspen]

Cica caught in 4k after randomly queueing into me.

[copper hawk]

i didn't sh our match frog

won once again ,,

[grizzled aspen]

You wanna know why I was down when you joined

FOUR trappers, at the same time.

And that smiteker was holding the bots hostage because she wouldn't move.

[clever swan]

terrifying that cica could be one qp away

[grizzled aspen]

You are much more likely to queue into Gale.

[copper hawk]

i queued into gale

then the next match i queued with frog

who's next

dorn ??

[grizzled aspen]

D*rn...

🤢

Yeah I guess that's the only match I'm doing tonight because I keep desyncing.

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156135383726305280/1383398101825622128/crispytyph_-_1933608660892110970.gif

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-bunny-cat-meme-tim-gif-5757637543570572724

[jagged cradle]

no it’s me

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-demoman-poke-eyes-gif-26017637

[dire schooner]

which stats are buffed by the Relic Blade's activated mode?

is it just cleave and armour pen?

[acoustic dune]

Chat

Psychers

[sullen forge]

Uses a build im good with and ends up carrying the psyker on my back the entire match

Had to clutch

[jagged cradle]

what was the build

[sullen forge]

Focus Target build

[jagged cradle]

strange

[sullen forge]

How

[jagged cradle]

oh no reason

it’s just strange because it’s you

[sullen forge]

Wire the one saying this btw

[jagged cradle]

i’m cool and normal

i like things such as thrust sunder on psword

[hearty nebula]

hi @sullen forge

[sullen forge]

I was checking my build

Also im up so early cause I work at 8 AM and My ass went to bed really early

[hearty nebula]

lol

[jagged cradle]

wait

i’m in the same lobby

freaky

[hearty nebula]

damn everyone is in that lobby

lmfao

[clever swan]

what's the canon server location for zealot chat

[undone pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-what-is-wrong-with-you-why-are-you-blue-brba-breaking-bad-gif-26777019

[clever swan]

na west probably

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1374399585073627299/rekt.gif

[placid fiber]

na west or na east probably

with a side of europe and asia

[clever swan]

that's basically all of them

[placid fiber]

What I wish my autopistol would do sometimes:

It's funny watching the cloak get destroyed by that

[placid fiber]

Tho nowadays it's up in the air what country zealot chat is

[dire schooner]

Q: which stats are buffed by the Relic Blade's activated mode? is it just cleave and armour pen?

[placid fiber]

every stat but mobility

[dire schooner]

ty

[placid fiber]

power output affects damage, heat management affects how long you can have it active, how fast it cools down, and how long before you can activate it again after overheating

finesse affects attack speed <.<

damage affects... well... damage >.>

[dire schooner]

i think you've misunderstood

i'm not asking which stats buff the activated mode

i'm asking which stats are buffed by the activated mode

[placid fiber]

oh

damage, cleave, and adms I think

I don't know if it changes adms, but, it does a lot more damage

[dire schooner]

hmm, i wasn't seeing drastically higher damage in the Meat Grinder?

[placid fiber]

Is your power output at 80%?

[dire schooner]

i was wondering if the effect was mostly just higher armour pen

yup

godrolled with mobility dump

[placid fiber]

Look at the heavy 1 of the mk10 against a crusher's head with and without powered mode

without any buffs like sustained assault

You can also check chastise with it as well

The sprint stab is better for carapace, but, you have to be sprinting for a little bit to use it which is kind of hard when they are on top of you

[dire schooner]

Yup

[placid fiber]

Even a 50% damage increase is quite a lot >.>

[dire schooner]

I'll go check, brb

[placid fiber]

I think I can actually check it too since all 4 of my zealots have a god rolled or near god rolled relic blade

For some reason the bottom part of my windows thing is showing up in fullscreen lol

503 without any buffs on the head(this one has 76% finesse)

[drowsy steppe]

did h40 enemy HP scaling got reduced

[placid fiber]

876 with powered

[drowsy steppe]

just cleared a h40 and my knives isnt fucking useless

neither my unpowered relic blade also feeling like butter

[placid fiber]

@dire schooner This is what I got for the damage increase against the head of a crusher without any buffs for the powered mode

with a 76% finesse relic blade

74% increased damage roughly

Gonna see if restarting darktide fixes the windows bar showing up and then I'll test with one of my perfect relic blades

My relic blades have 25% unyielding on them instead of 10% elites or 25% carapace

[grizzled aspen]

(you should really do testing with a perfectly dumped relic blade)

[placid fiber]

I am going to, I restarted my pc to see if it fixes that bar showing up

That fixed it lol

[placid fiber]

Oh that was with a piety build btw not that it matters

[grizzled aspen]

Alt + enter should fix it.

And if you're looking for raw number testing, do it without talents.

If you are looking for testing with specific talents, path in such a way to avoid as much as possible.

[cedar stone]

Dewd what's best weaon for zealot

[grizzled aspen]

That is a very loaded question.

[cedar stone]

Lol

[grizzled aspen]

The better question is "what kind of weapon are you looking for?"

[dire schooner]

whatever works for you

[cedar stone]

I've been using the combat shotgun and heavy chainsword

[dire schooner]

if that works then go for it

there is no "best" weapon

[grizzled aspen]

Evisc kinda sucks rn but it's getting buffed when arbites drops.

[placid fiber]

My recording glitched up and I forgot the #'s i got from this last test

[cedar stone]

Was just wondering if there's like anything crazy

[grizzled aspen]

Untrue, but ok.

[placid fiber]

Gotta redo them

[dire schooner]

some weapons are easier to master than others, and some have a higher output ceiling, but there is no Best Weapon™ beyond subjective judgement

[placid fiber]

Taxe for Cole, mk3 evis for Meow:

:3

I'm joking btw <.<

[cedar stone]

Well what about build

[placid fiber]

THE BUILD

™

[cedar stone]

I got the flame nade tree the 2 charges tree and martyrdom tree

[dire schooner]

i think why i wasn't percieving a large damage increase from Relic Blade activation was because of how tanky crushers are

[placid fiber]

You're numbers are lower than mine were... do you have both 5% melee damage nodes?

[cedar stone]

What's the meaning of the perp and yellow lines

[placid fiber]

This is what I got @dire schooner

[grizzled aspen]

The best melees are, in no particular hierarchy,
Crusher
Thunder Hammer (crucis, not ironhelm)
Relic Blade
Duelling Sword (though upcoming changes may make this not the case)
Knife
Tactical Axe (but only with specific setups)
Rashad

The best ranged weapons are, in no particular hierarchy,
Boltgun
Flamer
Vraks or Agripinaa Infantry Autoguns
Laspistol
(honorable mention for bolt pistol due to its interaction with lethal prox and crushers aoe)

[dire schooner]

i have the upper but not the lower

[placid fiber]

Purple are meta talents taken, yellow are optional talents

[stone fern]

IRONHELM WILL GET BUFFED

[placid fiber]

You don't have sustained assault...?

[cedar stone]

Damn im sad none of the chain weapons are there

[stone fern]

1 blocked message

[dire schooner]

nope

[placid fiber]

Sustained assault is 20% more damage <.<

on top of the 5% above it

giving 30% more total melee damage

[grizzled aspen]

Well, that's because chain weapons have one very tedious, annoying issue, being that they have a target cap of 4 enemies on lights. You can cleave more than that, but the 5th enemy and beyond don't take damage. Upcoming changes to eviscerator are removing said cap from it.

[placid fiber]

on a class that melee attacks as the primary way of damage

[dire schooner]

i'll be sure to pick it up when I hit level 32

[grizzled aspen]

Post your build, something isn't adding up.

[dire schooner]

hell no lmfao, i learned my lesson last time