#zealot-class

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bitter anvil
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So that why he’s evil from beginning poster title game?

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Very ominously

misty nova
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Isn't Search 'n Pick?

ripe quest
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Just looked at it, looks like in the time since I've last looked at it it went from lightly bugged to not working in the Psyk. FotF gives you plain ol' attack speed, there's a function that merges ranged attack speed and attack speed to form a firerate difference with automatic weapons. In the Psykhanium, this code no longer works. Originally the auto weapons would only benefit if you started firing after the start of the buff.

Feel free to verify this yourself in a public lobby, Psykhanium is a little weird with buffs and some functions. I tested it with a Boltgun and it went from a 2.15s dump time to a 1.88s dump time.

bitter anvil
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But is quite confuse to find autogun catagory

plush estuary
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Once again Psykhanium messing up testing

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is it because its offline

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or something else?

ripe quest
plush estuary
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I mean, fair

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live testing is far better

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since it contains the variables in live situations

ripe quest
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I would assume it's either due to the lobby being solo or just the lack of lag. I don't have the lag simulation mod so I cannot verify.

clever swan
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makes psykhanium for testing
psykhanium barely works for testing
classic

plush estuary
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I remember Kuli talking about that

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how Psyk is made for testing but some things lie

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and he did something so his works better

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I don't remember what

tawny harbor
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I only went to the shooting range to verify. The reason I even know fotf buffs laspistol but not recon las is from field testing.

ripe quest
plush estuary
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it just takes time and practice

grizzled aspen
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Total Astarion obliteration.

plush estuary
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I can get it 1/3 of the time

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but I rarely use stealth so I don't exactly have the rhythm down

low coyote
plush estuary
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While the animation is going through pop ult

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Might vary on some weapons

spare talon
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open forums
"plasmas secondary should be made into a wide aoe"
close forums

bitter anvil
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Every time I bring stimm most time I keeping them till end level

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And never bother use them

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(Rare case I do)

sterile stone
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I don't get this unhealthy obsession with scouring any forum for anything darktide related

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That shit can't be healthy

bitter anvil
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It’s Curiosity

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That make habit

heady rapids
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@acoustic dune

bitter anvil
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Look YouTube video title and go comment read is 98% people do all time

ripe quest
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This case it's not quite right, since I popped ult too late.

low coyote
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I think ive got it

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i get like 1800 damage per backstab using combat blade on damnation level crushers

bitter anvil
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60% rending on backstab

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Or 120%?

low coyote
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imma be totally honest I have no idea 😭

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ive just been mixing shit like its a lab experiment

bitter anvil
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Mod can help you experiment weapon without spending

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Loadout config

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Creature spawner

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That’s all

low coyote
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Im learning creature spawner

bitter anvil
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I use arrow left and right key to select enemy

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And enter num key to spawn and 0 num key to delete

ripe quest
plush estuary
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Where is your crusher 1 shot... This is dorktide you can't win without it

low coyote
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let me boot up the ol darktide

full nebula
median steeple
full nebula
void bison
plush estuary
bitter anvil
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Swap to antax caxe after using caxe

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KEKW_ogryn yeah the combat axe after chain axe

plush estuary
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If the DS nerf comes through, I gotta make a copy pasta for when people whine

twin wagon
bitter anvil
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“Dear fs, I like your game but nerfing dueling sword hurting thousand player using them, and I advocating to revert it back. Please consider this is the word from us”

full nebula
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Use a sweeping weapon with easy horizontals or something to start learning horde management and clearing

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Probably self explanatory

spare talon
full nebula
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Also don't waste ammo on trash, if you're not using throwing knives, try to conserve ammo for specials depending on the gun

low coyote
bitter anvil
twin wagon
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Is that the bite of 1987?

low coyote
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five nigt confetti

bitter anvil
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Reminiscing about my friend said Darktide melee combat system is gay echoing in my head

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All I heard two word “no parrying”

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Just a goddamn want all melee weapon must have parrying

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And he’ll like it

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I hate how sm2 inducting him a lot

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With parrying mechanic

random shard
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sm keybinds felt horrible, one of the only games ive ever refunded

bitter anvil
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I don’t feel used to sm2 combat also

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The key loadout is a mess for me

twin wagon
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sm2 bad

bitter anvil
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Oh he won’t listen to discordian said sm2 is bad, since he believe discordian are cringe and stupid

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He never use discord

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Even when I carry him in Darktide he ask the build

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Refuse use good weapon and stick to the shovel

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(Mostly under level weapon lock behind)

misty nova
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Ok
Got creature spawner up

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First things first

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A bunch of trappers

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Mwehehehe

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Times 50 or something

bitter anvil
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50 trapper spawn and turn off invisibility

misty nova
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I got Jumpscared by the synchronized net sounds

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Wasn't expecting it to be so loud

bitter anvil
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(Where can I find autogun catagory in rogue trader mod toy box inside search’n’pick?)

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50 net shot at once

drowsy steppe
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now I remember why I stopped playing Havoc kekw

muted pike
bitter anvil
bitter anvil
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My friend is typically “fuck it, I want everything skip the grind” energy kind

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I told him about rashad axe is too good but he still said is slow and ass

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explained to him about low finesse stats

hexed igloo
runic grotto
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Sounds like he finds excuses to just not play darktide cause he doesn't want to

bitter anvil
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No is because I keep brag about too much and he eventually brought it

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It was my fault

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I was being such die hard fan for it

runic grotto
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And you are correct

bitter anvil
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He make me buy sm2

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He spent a lot on that game I remember

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Grind cosmetic

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But he don’t like grind any game taking too long and not respect his time

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Like division 2

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But he respect Darktide

runic grotto
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Leveling to 30 in darktide barely takes any time

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From there you can do whatever if your skill allows it

bitter anvil
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He just level 30 veteran then hop on psyker till level 15 and we stop playing, due to his playing dying consistently on heresy or damnation

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He’s like “yeah carry my ass”

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“I want you carry my ass”

tawny harbor
signal spoke
signal spoke
drowsy steppe
bitter anvil
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My friend in gameplay like “help help, get over here help me and am dying” yeah I’m just obey his command and I told him many time about block dodge and push

drowsy steppe
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just to play discount SBMM

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that is the opposite as to why I wanna play Darktide

signal spoke
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How even long your friend been playing DT

bitter anvil
runic grotto
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which keystone do I take for dclaw and which mk is the preferred one?

bitter anvil
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Last time in mortis trial when I left him alone his hp get chipped chunk down fast

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It was on uprising or malice

signal spoke
bitter anvil
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I play some loadout using crowd control he get pissed off when his dying said “crowd control my ass”

signal spoke
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Does he even like to play the game at all

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Or learn

tawny harbor
drowsy steppe
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get rampage + shred if youre blazing piety

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rampage + savage sweep on other keystones

bitter anvil
# signal spoke Or learn

I ASK HIM MANY TIME ABOUT PUSH DODGE BLOCK. I gave him guide base build set up. When level 30 iirc he’s play little decent

signal spoke
bitter anvil
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His first pick is veteran

spare talon
bitter anvil
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He gone shovel because want larp as kreiger

signal spoke
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We found the Krieg enjoyer

ripe quest
signal spoke
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It's over /j

bitter anvil
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The only he don’t like Darktide is lacking parrying

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Last time I give him news dueling sword get parry mechanic and he said “GAY”

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I include ds get nerf

signal spoke
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I bet he doesn't know about Devil claw

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Or the perfect block mechanic

runic grotto
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gay means happy

bitter anvil
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He know he used, but is ass for him

runic grotto
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He must be really exctited for new ds

bitter anvil
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He used devil claw but his dclaw is weak at horde mix

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He swap back to shovel more general crowd control shit

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Oh he want something one hitting groaner and poxwalker

runic grotto
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he wants relic blade or maybe even an ironhelm

bitter anvil
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So I gave him perk deal bonus damage one hit groaner and pox, because I told him twice and he shitting “look I don’t care what guide you told I just want something one hit kill those groaner”

ripe quest
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he wants chaxe, caxe, taxe, and shovel

bitter anvil
ripe quest
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also dclaw, ds, rb, lb, rt, lt, and evis

bitter anvil
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He took 25% unarmored and infested just only deal specialize groaner and pox

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I give for the advise

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Why? He stubborn doesn’t want listen me

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He doesn’t care what guide told on discord because he don’t trust it

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Only using me

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And most time he want pick something simple over give description

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He doesn’t want me lecturing description mechanic just pick something work for him

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So yeah, he use helbore or vigil autogun

ripe quest
bitter anvil
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To deal the special

bitter anvil
runic grotto
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Sounds like you need to shut up

bitter anvil
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That’s he don’t use discord

runic grotto
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And only answer his questions

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Don't tell him anything else

bitter anvil
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I won’t tell him about discordian because he don’t take ya word

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He do not care about it

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Is been while last play Darktide with him

drowsy steppe
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consider unfriending him

bitter anvil
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Why?

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We play bl3

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With him having fun modding weapon

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The save editor of bl3

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Is fun tho

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Custom weapon is funny in bl3

bitter anvil
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I told him get 25% groan and pox killing to 1 shot trash mob with shovel

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That’s what he asked for

drowsy steppe
heady rapids
tawny harbor
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bro you can take it easy and just take out those crushers, there's only like 6 of them
I can deal with the poxwalker horde

grizzled aspen
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Precision strikes alone allows for that.

bitter anvil
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Oh that 30% weakspot strength node?

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I guessing is 30% weakspot strike also affect melee

ripe quest
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🙂

bitter anvil
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After maxed vet

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I’ll tell him the fgs is good

ripe quest
bitter anvil
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But we didn’t play it again

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Because something interest is lacking

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Like burnout from me

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@ripe quest actually I didn’t like how his skill suck in Darktide like I sucked in sm2

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He play sm2 longer than me

ripe quest
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I'm fearful of playing SM2 because I will do horrible things to that community if I get into it and I'm already stretching my attention thin w/ Darktide and HD2.

bitter anvil
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The only he like sm2 melee combat is parrying system

runic grotto
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Why the fuck is he so obsessed wth parrying

bitter anvil
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@ripe quest is why he call Darktide melee system suck, and said something “put chivalry or morhau in Darktide”

runic grotto
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Does he have 2000 hours on sekiro or something?

bitter anvil
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No, he primary play stealth shooter like ghost recon

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He like those game

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Stealth shooter genre

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But he’s okay with loud shooter

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Darktide, borderland, wwz aftermath

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Sm2

bitter anvil
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Like he want parry with shovel

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Sword dclaw only has parry so he tried

runic grotto
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Does he understand that he's playing darktide

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Not space marine

bitter anvil
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Idk

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I never told him that

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He just “wack” on game

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And said gay or aid

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My other friend told me him most time complain shit a lot like not really criticize the game just something he doesn’t like what feature not have on it

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And he get over it

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But that time he want using me to carrying him on low level play damnation or heresy

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To level up fast

twin wagon
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Hd2 bad

bitter anvil
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Is weird way him doing it

median steeple
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Needs a new hobby or smth

acoustic dune
bitter anvil
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Hd2 is what he liked

median steeple
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No joy and whimsy

bitter anvil
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High level as 134

twin wagon
bitter anvil
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Me just 34

bitter anvil
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I means he played bl3 the mechanic just ranger shooting as simple for him

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Darktide is too much for him

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The pressure he’s trying get over it

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But ended up dying

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Especially heresy Histg modifier

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I warn him this it get tougher in this mode

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I can’t carry someone weight on damn histg

drowsy steppe
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Im sparing the rest of the gaming community from my spreadsheets

heady rapids
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they already got a spreadsheet

acoustic dune
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what?

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what did i miss?

young sparrow
acoustic dune
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damn...

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no one wanna game with me

hearty nebula
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man

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i am very excited to try out the buffed shotguns

heady rapids
sterile basalt
hearty nebula
sterile basalt
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They just buffed base damage

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It’ll help smooth out some ranges for VI and VII but still can be quite inconsistent

fair igloo
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Hi! I just checked the zealot compendium and noticed slaughterer is recommended over trauma or hammerblow, is that true?

sterile basalt
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As for IX the only really notable buff was ammo count

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Everything else pretty small

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Damage went up by ~8.5%

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Not gonna change 1 taps’ consistency much if at all

fair igloo
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Oh! Yea sorry I thought i mentioned crusher i'm a bit tired

frosty herald
sterile basalt
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Yea slaughterer is top tier for crusher

frosty herald
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Crusher does enough stagger already so you want to boost damage instead

fair igloo
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When I made my crusher build the best was skullcrusher/hammerblow which was fun, can't wait to try it out with slaughterer!

sterile basalt
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Hammerblow and trauma can push a few stagger breakpoints

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But they’re usually not needed

fair igloo
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So is this looking okay?

frosty herald
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But please either get 60% defenses or power output

fair igloo
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Does it meet important BPs or something?

frosty herald
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Nope

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But power output is only a 20 flat damage difference

fair igloo
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wait so why should i immediately get a crusher with a 60% dump? is it just to like look nice?

fair igloo
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ah okay

drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
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chat

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shat

acoustic dune
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corn

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cone

ripe quest
copper hawk
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FatShark source spaghetti

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What was patched will actually not be patched

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Our very own lethal prox

jagged cradle
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just let the lp bug be a feature

tacit totem
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so im still learning the zealot here (new player in general) . running the martyrdom build in the pins with a relic blade. is switching the nodes to a crit version gonna give more survivability as well as some more damage? essentially enduring faith vs blood redemption

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then id have to make a heavy evisceraor tho too to do that

ripe quest
# tacit totem so im still learning the zealot here (new player in general) . running the marty...

is switching the nodes to a crit version gonna give more survivability as well as some more damage?
More survivability, kinda? You get the TDR on left branch piety. Martyr comes with some survivability benefits if you run blood for the emperor on the left blitz branch and it comes with its own TDR source.

Damage? sometimes. Martyr gives attack speed and damage at all times while you have stacks, it's high damage too. Relic Blade has good finesse so crit weakspots with Duellist up are pretty good though, blazing piety will get you those more often. Up to you, RB is super strong on any build just due to it itself being super strong.

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The build in pins is the 'hyper meta havoc 40' with a stamp of approval by some players pretty much, so don't feel pressured to just run that. Experiment around, lots of options.

copper hawk
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New difficulty system

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Pick own mission

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Can play civis 4ever..

drowsy steppe
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I was just about to take a nap husk

ripe quest
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We should delete Ogryn and review boost the game.

drowsy steppe
heady rapids
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You will make progress by playing missions at your current maximum difficulty. Completing missions advances your progress. Failure reduces progress but very slightly. Additionally, you will never be demoted to a lower difficulty tier, regardless of how many missions you fail. Higher difficulties will require you to complete more missions to unlock them.

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wtf

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ranked difficulty unlocks

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New difficulty for Mortis Trials
Since the release of Mortis Trials we have noticed people requesting a higher challenge in Mortis Trials! So, we are adding a new difficulty, Auric, as well as some other small changes.

There will now be a shorter time in between waves.
Waves will now have more enemies and enemy types increasing variety.
We are changing the base difficulty to match an Auric difficulty mission.

drowsy steppe
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I want to be brain rotted playing Auric IIIVEG constantly

next marlin
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I dont understand how people are telling las pistol is good boss damage, I think i'm missing something. I have dum dum + infernus

obsidian prairie
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It’s not entirely fast

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Just easy and consistent

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Like 25k per boss on damnation

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If you can aim its way better

next marlin
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Do you have any tips to hit weakspot regulary per boss ?

next marlin
obsidian prairie
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Bolter is slow and burst reliant

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Also expensive

mild sparrow
next marlin
obsidian prairie
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Ammo

next marlin
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😭

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Yes Las Pistol seems to have a lot of ammo

mild sparrow
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Well, you need to shoot the pimple

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So someone needs to distract it

mental coral
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How do you build a knife on zealot again? Dueling sword is funny but thought I might as well full send and actually build out a knife

grizzled aspen
# next marlin bait BoN ?

If you stand close to it, it will attempt to do melee attacks when its vomit is on cooldown. You can use that small amount of time to hit the pimple on its back with your melee. You can also bait melee attacks out if you are not the person it's trying to vomit on.

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Otherwise, high finesse ranged weapons like a laspistol or vraks iag will evaporate the BoN if you shoot the pimple.

next marlin
grizzled aspen
next marlin
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Yes

hard nexus
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click,,,

grizzled aspen
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Don't ever sprint away from it. You will get caught by its charge, either flinging you into a spot where you don't want to be or having your guard broken.

obsidian prairie
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You can get plague ogryn’s stuck looping their slam

grizzled aspen
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With practice, you can make it loop its downward slam attack for an easy kill.

obsidian prairie
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Harder than it is in vt2 but possible

grizzled aspen
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I only have one tip for fighting a chaos spawn. Don't fight it on an incline.

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Stairs and ramps =/= good.

tawny harbor
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pogryns telegraph all their attacks and are kinda slow so they're easy to dodge

next marlin
sterile basalt
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Dodge overhead

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Bait overhead loop

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Repeat that until it dies

next marlin
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And often people in party dont have enough boss damage (and are shit to kill snipers) so the las pistol seems perfect for these both weakness

sterile basalt
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U have a duelling sword

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Use it

grizzled aspen
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Duelling sword will make quick work of bosses, even without chastise.

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Just keep hitting the weakspot and it will die quickly.

sterile basalt
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U have perhaps the most overtuned stat stick in the game and ur planning to use laspistol for boss damage instead

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Crazy work

grizzled aspen
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Laspistol is not necessarily your weapon of choice for boss damage, it's just the best of the pistol weapons in the game for doing it.

tawny harbor
grizzled aspen
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Fighting a cspawn on an incline when you're below it can make you be able to back dodge and dodge the grab.

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The inverse is also true, if you are above it on an incline, you can't dodge the grab.

next marlin
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This is better to use DS4 for boss damage than Las Pistol ?

grizzled aspen
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Anywho, laspistol is mainly used as a mobility tool for low mobility weapons, like any of zealouts 2h weapons.

grizzled aspen
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It is utility more than anything.

next marlin
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Oh, I have DS4 so maybe I should take a other range weapon

grizzled aspen
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Ds4 kills everything in the game that isnt a boss in 1-3 hits.

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What's going to get you in trouble is densely packed elites.

ripe quest
next marlin
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Brauto ?

grizzled aspen
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Flamer solves densely packed elites.

grizzled aspen
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Not the greatest choice in the world.

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Especially considering zeal has access to duellist, which makes infantry autoguns much better than they otherwise would be.

ripe quest
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Alternatively if you need crowd damage just take an infernus recon lasgun Thumbs_up

next marlin
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My greatest with flamers are ... Snipers.

grizzled aspen
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Best ranged choices for zealout are boltgun, flamer, agri/vraks inf autogun, or mk2 laspistol.

next marlin
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This happens really often there is an horde and multiple snipers spawn and the team cannot take them out fast

grizzled aspen
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Each serves a different purpose.

drowsy steppe
ripe quest
grizzled aspen
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Boltgun solves a lack of carapace damage.
Flamer solves densely packed elites.
Vraks infantry autogun is a dps machine vs bosses.
Agri infantry autogun is quite good as an anti shooter weapon.
Mk2 laspistol is a mobility tool first, but the blessings allow it to double as a nice bonus to your boss damage or as an anti shooter weapon.

next marlin
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Woah I was asking this haha

ripe quest
next marlin
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Vraks Infantry is precise enough to take down far snipers ?

grizzled aspen
rough galleon
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so 2023 had power sword nerf review bombing
2024 had negative reviews due to vet rework
2025 will have review bombs due to dsword and plasma reworks

next marlin
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RANGE WEAPON PURPOSE (for research)

Boltgun solves a lack of carapace damage.
Flamer solves densely packed elites.
Vraks infantry autogun is a dps machine vs bosses.
Agri infantry autogun is quite good as an anti shooter weapon.
Mk2 laspistol is a mobility tool first, but the blessings allow it to double as a nice bonus to your boss damage or as an anti shooter weapon.

frosty herald
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The review bomb was funny cause it barely did anything

next marlin
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If I want to be a good player, I should adapt my range weapon according to what the team is lacking

grizzled aspen
# ripe quest You're missing the rest of the ranged weapons in that writeup but that's a good ...

No, not really.
Anything recon can do, laspistol does better for zealout.
Braced autos are meh, especially because they only have 2 dodges and have poor finesse scaling compared to infantry variants. Their only real use is to work against captain shields.
You got me fucked up if you think I'm ever going to recommend an infantry lasgun or vigilant to a zealout.
Revolvers exist.
Honorable mention to bolt pistol because lethal prox still affects crusher aoe.

next marlin
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Vraks is better than laspistol for boss damage ?

grizzled aspen
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I will withhold my judgment on shotguns until after the patch drops and they are buffed.

grizzled aspen
ripe quest
sterile basalt
grizzled aspen
next marlin
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What are the perks and blessing for vraks ?

  • Do you have guide for Flamer ? I was playing Inferno Staff before (so no ammunition problem) but i'm afraid I took bad habits. A guide for flamer to when just how much time you fire, when you just light push, etc
sterile basalt
grizzled aspen
sterile basalt
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Every other situation, melee

dark rose
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Use only m2 and hold it down on elites

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Get quickflame

next marlin
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And flamer is good against mixed hordes ?

grizzled aspen
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Vraks infantry autogun... I don't use it myself, so I can't say.

sterile basalt
ripe quest
sterile basalt
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It’s the slightly more balanced (but still very unbalanced) flame weapon

grizzled aspen
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Except autopistol.

grizzled aspen
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The only one that is "good" on the list that I wouldn't recommend is bolt pistol, for the honorable mention of lethal prox's interaction with crusher.

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You're free to disagree.

ripe quest
next marlin
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And flamer is good against bosses too ?

sterile basalt
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What’s with this need for ranged boss damage

grizzled aspen
next marlin
grizzled aspen
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Just use your melee, get comfortable with getting up close and personal with everything in the game.

ripe quest
grizzled aspen
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Nothing I said was wrong, though?

next marlin
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Are still the correct blessing ?

dark rose
next marlin
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Penetrating flames seems really strong

grizzled aspen
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If we were looking at vet or psyker, you could say recon is better, because vet has shock trooper for crit strings and saving ammo and psyker can abuse ee better.

mild sparrow
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Going to have to explain the lack of revolver to me Sitgryn

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Just point and click and the heretics die

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Back to stabbing

grizzled aspen
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Come to think of it, I haven't had a revolver in my lobbies in ages.

grizzled aspen
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Better to capitalize on making your flamer kill everything it already kills well faster than to allow it to kill one more enemy.

next marlin
#

So inspiring barrage !

grizzled aspen
#

No.

#

Overpressure + Blaze away.

next marlin
#

Ok ok

grizzled aspen
#

You will make an elite pack disappear before you spend half your tank.

#

The ammo economy on flamer is very good if you build it correctly.

next marlin
#

Thanks for your patience !

grizzled aspen
clever swan
copper hawk
#

Absolutely zero rizz wtf

grizzled aspen
clever swan
grizzled aspen
#

Dare I say, less rizz than Frog.

placid fiber
ripe quest
# next marlin Penetrating flames seems really strong

Fire ADMs are pretty good by default. 20% brittle is just helping for Carapace, quite a lot though.

Though you can combo this with other weapons, so it's particularly there for if you have a melee weapon w/ poor Cara and you want a flamer. I like it w/ Crusher and Shock Maul personally.

ripe quest
#

Yeah it's really good at killing players.

#

🙂

#

Just don't get hit tho

stone fern
clever swan
placid fiber
#

asking someone about their color

clever swan
#

that is a DM, that is the entire chat history with them btw from start to finish (until a few mins ago when they msg'd me more)

stone fern
#

also

clever swan
#

it's japanese, must be related to my system locale

#

i forgot when or why it started doing that

stone fern
#

had a chinese student ask for the teachers help in something

#

her laptop was in chinese

#

he looked at it couldnt do anything and talked her through it KEKW_ogryn

hushed knoll
plush estuary
#

Me

hushed knoll
#

Ainz wtf PES_Cry

placid fiber
clever swan
#

it's in third person

placid fiber
#

^

placid fiber
#

man I need ~48 more minutes in vt2 to have 2k hours

runic grotto
#

Is there any table or resource or website where I can check adms of all the weapons?

carmine falcon
#

also the way the game stacks shit ends up making it aurics easier to play unironically

#

me when my cooldown is mere seconds cause im killing too many things

stone fern
hushed knoll
stone fern
obtuse garnet
#

🤫

hushed knoll
#

He is amazing

placid fiber
#

I like that they added an arbites class channel like a week before they released the arbiter

shy timber
oak lotus
#

question, why is flamer's dump stat damage?

stone fern
#

because it doesnt effect the rmb attack just the damage on the stagger puff

shy timber
stone fern
#

which is very low in the first place

placid fiber
oak lotus
#

damn

#

alright, thanks bros

placid fiber
#

and the difference between 60% to 80% is like 1 dps

#

when all of the damage comes from burn >.>

oak lotus
#

im thinking of using heavy eviscerator and flamer

placid fiber
#

give in like 4 more days and the eviscerator will be better >.>

oak lotus
#

holy airball

#

I got perfect rolls on the first one

placid fiber
#

Now wait for your next weapon to take 500 rolls

oak lotus
#

NOOOO

#

😭

placid fiber
#

It varies how many you buy before you get a perfect roll,

#

technically speaking a perfect flamer would be 64% damage, 80% ammo mobility cloud radius, and 76% burn >.>

#

cause burn caps out at 76%

#

not that 4% damage would do anything

oak lotus
#

mine says 80% burn??

placid fiber
#

Yeah, 80% is past the cap

oak lotus
#

60 and then all 80s

placid fiber
#

you get the max burn stacks once you get 76% burn

oak lotus
#

ah thats what you meant

placid fiber
sullen forge
#

I was wondering why Vet and Zealot chat moved slightly

#

Till I noticed the Arbites chat was added

placid fiber
oak lotus
#

ok nvm I regret taking the flamer now

#

the impact of not being able to shoot stuff is immense

placid fiber
oak lotus
#

yeah I did take them

#

the knives I mean

placid fiber
#

You can get good distance on them once you learn how to use them

#

cloud radius is what effects the suppression area and area you set enemies on fire

hushed knoll
#

When people name their characters “chiefkeef” it irks me so fucking bad

obtuse garnet
#

chief sosa

ivory marlin
#

His legs are so short

#

I love him

clever swan
#

why are his legs so short

hushed knoll
ivory marlin
#

And also to aura farm

hushed knoll
#

What is aura farming

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
#

Hes farming power

obtuse garnet
#

gat

ivory marlin
#

Yeah

#

My little baby boy

median steeple
#

Le cretura

obtuse garnet
#

a

royal vortex
#

no, b

hushed knoll
north sedge
ivory marlin
royal vortex
#

shalom

hushed knoll
hushed knoll
acoustic dune
hollow meteor
acoustic dune
#

chat

#

cook stan's bacon

clever swan
#

someone has to

violet hornet
heady rapids
#

any mods in c hat

royal vortex
#

No

heady rapids
#

dam

blissful tundra
#

Huh, this chat is really a meme dump place.

#

Well, I come to drop this)
||Not my meme||

stone fern
heady rapids
#

notyou clad

acoustic dune
hollow meteor
heady rapids
#

UNREAL

median steeple
#

Lord Hela losing to Iron Man

#

many such cases

violet hornet
#

Kinda made sense for the zealots to maintain the sanctity of what's posted but with an arbites chat I guess we have competition

twin wagon
#

Seriusly it was promised

median steeple
#

well it seems arbites and zealot chat share a large amount of chatters

next marlin
#

So How is DS now on a chorus zealot

heady rapids
median steeple
#

gnarp ! ! !

heady rapids
#

i love marvel rivals

#

comp match barely started

#

teammate looks at our comp and immediately goes into global chat

#

and asks people to report 3 people

#

everything i want to tell him is filtered

median steeple
#

Low mental is crazy

heady rapids
#

diamond 1

#

cant wait to go back into gold 3

#

did i just get fucking target banned

#

matched against two people who just were on my team

median steeple
#

target banning a thing during a flier heavy meta is crazy

heady rapids
#

like

#

??

#

i know im a good thing player but what am i gonna do

misty nova
#

flier
Peni

#

😭

#

Somehow the worst combo of metas

heady rapids
#

well

misty nova
#

They should buff Peni's primary

#

Preferably travel speed

heady rapids
#

you ban

#

fliers

#

uh

#

or peni

#

then pick emma and strange

misty nova
#

Peni is not even a good vanguard

#

😭

blissful tundra
heady rapids
#

3 nests

#

?

misty nova
#

That's a team up feat

heady rapids
#

no trespassing

misty nova
#

Except everyone is flying

#

😭

heady rapids
#

you ban the fliers then

misty nova
#

One ban goes to Luna

violet hornet
#

Did they nerf peni? I thought she had the highest winrate of any vanguard during season 1

heady rapids
#

we are eating good

misty nova
#

Was primary being able to hit critical

heady rapids
violet hornet
#

Gross lol

misty nova
#

Then less slow when firing

misty nova
#

Except everyone is flying

violet hornet
#

She does kinda strike me as a pubstomper

heady rapids
#

what are people doing playing wolve in this meta

misty nova
#

Oh also

#

Her critical does 45 damage

violet hornet
misty nova
#

Instead of 60

heady rapids
#

i guess?

misty nova
#

Ok so

#

Her primary does 30 damage

#

15 from direct
15 from aoe

#

Only the direct gets affected by the crit

#

The travel speed sucks

#

Peni has sustained poke

#

Except that poke sucks

median steeple
#

cap ban is crazy

next marlin
#

What are your predictions for meta melee weapon for Zealot with balance patch and nerf DS (dont say me Knife please)

carmine falcon
#

ds is still not nerfed

#

and u dont need it Haha

#

go knife, relic blade, crusher ect

violet hornet
#

I for one welcome our evis meta overlords

carmine falcon
#

also evis with no dmg cap is gonna fkn slap

next marlin
misty nova
#

This flying meta so ass it got me placing mines on the roof

north sedge
#

Can't believe ds was deleted from game

visual stream
#

How am I supposed to win my heresy missions now

#

low intensity is already hard enough as is

heady rapids
#

im stuck in limbo

#

help

#

nearly sold the last game cause we had a guy insist on playing ultron in a 2 healer comp

void bison
#

try doing this

grizzled aspen
# full nebula

Imagine if you could be demoted, though. Hardstuck malice players would actually be stuck in malice.

full nebula
#

Good

idle moss
#

Need weapon advice. I am a zealot main and have been playing thunder hammer/bolt pistol pretty much exclusively for a while. However, been trying to play different weapons recently (the relic blade in particular) and I feel like I end up pretty doing very lackluster damage against all types of bosses/monstrosities and crushers are also a big problem. What is a good anti-large ranged weapon that isn’t the bolter that would allow me to play less hard-hitting melee weapons but still be able to deal with monstrosities?

north sedge
#

Relic should still dump on most things

idle moss
#

Yeah I’m still getting the masteries for it, so my weapon definitely subpar atm, perhaps it’ll feel better once I’ve got it fully upgraded. Any advice for running the relic blade?

#

Got hundreds of hours on TH but basically haven’t played any other weapons for also hundreds of hours :3

violet hornet
#

If you're running mk10 RB you probably want to use heavy heavy light loop on harder targets. For mk2 iirc it's just heavy loop for single target

#

The sprint thrust attack does the most single target damage, you definitely want to do one as you engage a large target and can get another by doing a dodge slide during combat

#

I run it with the bolter but the revolver is another ranged weapon that can handle single large targets well too

#

For monstrosities the laspistols are actually good too, they just suck against carapace

#

I run unyielding elites as perks on the relic blade for general elite, ogryn, and monster hate

idle moss
#

Lots of good tips, thanks! Gonna have to try all that out!

violet hornet
#

Here's some combos for RB mk10:

Horizontal Sweeps for horde clear

  • Light 1, Light 2, Heavy 3, Heavy 4 are all horizontal sweeps and Heavy 3 and Heavy 4 can be repeated in a loop
  • Light 1, Light 2, Heavy 3 also works with looping Light 2 and Heavy 3
  • Push (with no attack), Heavy 4, Heavy 3 can access heavy sweeps more quickly and you can either loop it or just the heavies at the end
  • Push, Light 2, Heavy 3 can loop as well, or just loop Light 2 and Heavy 3

Strikedowns and stabs for single target

  • Heavy while sprinting is a stab and leads into Light 1 (right to left sweep) or Heavy 1 (right side strikedown)
  • Push Attack is a stab
  • Heavy 1, Heavy 2, Light 3 you can loop for strikedown, strikedown, stab
  • Push attack, Heavy 2, Light 3 can be looped and used to attack with only single target attacks on left side for hitting around bulwark shields

Switching between them

  • If you're doing a horizontal sweep from left to right, you can follow with Light 3 (stab) and start a single target combo
  • If you're performing single target attacks, use Push to cancel your combo and loop Light 2, Heavy 3 or Heavy 4, Heavy 3
  • A Push attack is a quick and reliable way to interrupt a hordeclear loop for a single target attack if you need one

If you use disdain, you can build stacks with a sweep and expend them on a stab by using Light 1, Push Attack, Light 2, Light 3, which loops.

indigo pike
#

Is cranial grounding good on Relic Blade for horde clearing?

north sedge
#

Cranial is pretty much the pick for blessings

acoustic dune
violet hornet
#

The activated state brings a huge increase in damage, which cranial grounding can help you keep online longer and I think it helps it cool down faster when not in use too but I'm unsure

indigo pike
#

Got it

ivory marlin
#

Warframe vor rework (not the art)

#

His fight is finally not gonna be the most boring braindead experience

solar gorge
#

pure degeneracy

#

literally

#

and figuratively

quick mountain
#

crusher combos are just heavy -> light for single target and light -> heavy for hordes right? when should I use the special activation?

north sedge
#

No, read Crusher guide in pins

#

(Push attack is a big deal on crusher)

quick mountain
#

didnt notice there was one further down, thanks!

#

so this still checks out? no updates since last year?

#

damn this feels like old vermintide weapon combo variety, feels good

undone scaffold
#

so they're killing zealot weps too?

quick mountain
#

did vt change combos on some weapons to just be light/heavy spam?

#

i remember the tuskgor and the bretonnian ls having some level of thought necessary

violet hornet
#

If it doesn't mention a damage blessing that's probably what ya want

full nebula
quick mountain
misty nova
#

Heh

#

No wonder they are buffing the tactical axes

#

Arbites got them as well

quick mountain
#

oh, embargo's up?

full nebula
#

I would hope they'd get most of the other human weapons

violet hornet
#

Let the dog hold the taxe

full nebula
#

The dog should be able to retrieve ammo so I can actually get some from the fucking vets

visual stream
#

They only gave taxe to arbites otherwise Cole wouldn't have willingly played it MSPaintSmile

misty nova
#

And the crusher for Yamato

visual stream
#

Holy double skullcrusher crusher bro

violet hornet
# misty nova

Hold up I can take a maul and shield as a melee and also a pistol and a different shield as a ranged option

visual stream
#

Arbites got crusher just like I was hoping

#

gd

violet hornet
#

Let us dual wield shields whatthefuck_heresy

full nebula
#

No ds/knife is kinda nice. I like the knife but forcing people to fucking use something else is good.

stone fern
visual stream
#

I'm sure it doesn't but I wonder if it's like some games where the unequipped shield blocks bullets on your back

stone fern
#

bros......

#

we won

visual stream
misty nova
#

I mean
Rashad is right there

stone fern
#

WAIT

#

WHERE IS HEAVY SWORD

visual stream
#

Also shock maul vs. arbites shock maul

#

?

full nebula
#

They should have heavysword tbh

misty nova
#

Cowboy Arbites

visual stream
#

What is difference

full nebula
#

That's human sized p maul

misty nova
#

Low amount of bladed weapon

full nebula
#

I hope it's not as bad as paul

misty nova
#

They just lumped axes there for the funny

#

And Chainsword

full nebula
#

Buff chainsword next

acoustic dune
#

chat

#

dropkick

acoustic dune
#

i want a refund

long oasis
#

I only offer refunds in ZWD

acoustic dune
solar gorge
#

they made the split face dinosaur purple in nighrein

#

very cool

full nebula
long oasis
#

cant be that hard

grizzled aspen
#

(he was never seen again)

solar gorge
#

i beat it, it's harder than base but not ball bustingly

long oasis
#

honestly nightreign is funner than I expected

#

it reminds me of monster hunter sorta

solar gorge
#

it's p fun and good when you just ignore that it's an asset flip

#

oh well, it's the same price as Sote so it's just a dlc in my head

long oasis
#

I dont mind the asset flip part

#

gaping dragon deserves to be in more games fs

solar gorge
#

so does Libra my beloved

misty nova
red mesa
#

do you guys think the arbites dog will be distracting/make pox hounds harder to notice from desensitizing you to the dog presence

#

i worry im gonna try to push them when they run in front of me and shit lmao

quick mountain
#

in the zealot pinned guide, why are heavy evis and tac axe the main recommendations for piety? i usally see people run dagger/ds with those

trail mantle
#

they can get crit blessings

#

and the taxe has a good finesse modifer on top of good base chance and speed

quick mountain
#

oooh, sounds fun with the coming buffs

#

thanks

trail mantle
#

it's going to go crazy

red mesa
#

im so excited for tacaxe buff

#

and devil claw

quick mountain
#

i havent tried it yet, all i know is my friend complaining about its carpal tunnel risk lmao

red mesa
#

ive been carrying AM's with devil claw bc its fun forever, but never get to use it on havoc it just doesnt feel good there

#

im hoping its useable in havoc after

#

but we'll see

plush estuary
quick mountain
#

leave psykhanium and immediately see someone crashing out abt ogryns being op KEKW_ogryn

plush estuary
#

and tactical axe armor damages comes from its crits

#

so having higher crit deals with the enemy it has the weakest damage too

#

(carapace)

quick mountain
#

interesting

visual stream
#

Taxe users recommend a macro for all of the left clicking you're gonna do

#

Unless you enjoy carp in your tunnel

quick mountain
#

i cant find where i read it so i'll ask here for confirmation, combat blade is precog for piety, riposte for any other keystone yea?

plush estuary
#

taxe 7 uses heavies and push attack for main dps

#

only lights for carapace and unyield

misty nova
#

You can use Precognition And Riposte

#

On the others

visual stream
#

A weapon using lights for carapace sounds so weird

plush estuary
misty nova
#

Yeah

plush estuary
#

precog + riposte is best overall

#

since precog does want a bit of crit

quick mountain
#

thanks

#

knife was like the first weapon i got to full mastery but i didnt really even know how to make it work, i just liked going fast

#

couldnt figure out why the monstrosity damage felt iffy

royal vortex
visual stream
royal vortex
#

infantry lasgun is just a shit user experience do not use it

#

me when my scope LIES

visual stream
#

It's that bad?

#

I was wondering about trying it

royal vortex
#

the problem is i think they've never fixed the sight misalignment on recoil

#

so it's still just this unhinged awful to use gun unless you have something that turns off recoil like exe stance

visual stream
#

marksman gun not marksmaning be_YAYYY

wary lagoon
#

Flamers- Tap or alt fire?

acoustic dune
placid fiber
acoustic dune
#

more eco friendly

#

ey phil

placid fiber
#

hi knify

acoustic dune
#

hows the mice

placid fiber
#

I've been having stomach cramps the last 2 hours x.x

acoustic dune
#

well that stank

placid fiber
#

It's a normal thing for me

hollow meteor
misty nova
placid fiber
#

I've gotten them since I was like... 15

lofty zephyr
#

which is better for combat knife? Lacerate or Fleshtearer?

placid fiber
#

Technically it is better to just kill the enemy, but, fleshtearer with uncanny

lofty zephyr
#

okay thanks

#

and is mercy killer any good at all?

#

it seems good

fossil crag
#

what is the combo for the crusher loop for crusher again

quick mountain
#

....so about that macro (my hands are dead after trying knife with fotf and ij)

lofty zephyr
#

i might go mercy killer with uncanny

#

but it needs bleed damn it

placid fiber
ripe quest
#

You can mix as needed, your specials give a lot of time to adjust combos.

plush estuary
#

But bleed is funny

#

Try it out

gleaming dove
trail mantle
#

thunderhammer thumbsup_ogryn

#

at least that's how I got it

lofty zephyr
#

thanks for the help

plush estuary
#

Happy to help

gleaming dove
trail mantle
#

I was, and idk it's a fatshark game, shit is bound to not work quite right or the way you'd think

gleaming dove
#

That is true. Its like Vigil station oblivium its still not in rotation and I need the skull for the conplete penance for that too. But I will try the thunderhammer see if that works thumbsup_ogryn

acoustic dune
#

got it by accident

placid fiber
#

It might be fatshark wording and it means 25% instead of a flat 25

gleaming dove
acoustic dune
#

i think i got mine from a thunderhammer shroudfield

visual stream
#

Precog/riposte on crusher when

gleaming dove
#

little box with zealot face and 25 at the bottom of my screen yet it never replenished my health

acoustic dune
#

or

#

wtf

gleaming dove
#

At least im sure I did

acoustic dune
gleaming dove
acoustic dune
#

ok so

#

try out shroudfield and thammer

#

that should do the trick

gleaming dove
visual stream
#

Shroud and hammer is overkill but at least you'll make sure

#

Hammer should be enough

acoustic dune
#

@visual stream wanna game?

visual stream
#

At work or would sad

hearty nebula
acoustic dune
#

when was this out?

#

today?

hearty nebula
#

today i guess

acoustic dune
#

i just saw

misty nova
#

(technically more like Agile Engagement)

acoustic dune
#

evil

#

vile even

misty nova
#

Hold on hold on

#

50% Cleave

#

Per stacks?????

hearty nebula
#

there's also a video up on fatshark's channel from reginald

misty nova
#

Oh no

#

Never mind

hearty nebula
#

💀

#

they shoulda hired bricky again...

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
misty nova
acoustic dune
#

ah

hearty nebula
#

like sure bricky don't know how to play for shit but at least he's mildly entertaining

misty nova
#

"While you have stacks"

#

I should've interpreted better

#

Basically from 1 to 30 stacks
You just gain a single instances of those buffs

visual stream
placid fiber
#

you can have 2 keystones as arbiter >.>

hearty nebula
#

wtf

placid fiber
#

or rather your dog can have 1, and you can have 1(2 with lone wolf)

hearty nebula
#

they have higher base toughness than ogryn

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
#

they also have

#

same stamina regeneration as psyker

#

😭

placid fiber
acoustic dune
#

do they have lite bubble?

placid fiber
#

both ones do

acoustic dune
hearty nebula
#

ok but like

night thicket
#

Isn't this the zealot channel?

hearty nebula
acoustic dune
#

this is what we do normally

trail mantle
#

nuh-uh

misty nova
placid fiber
#

These are all keystones @acoustic dune

misty nova
#

Which is why we talk about everything here

#

Lovely isn't it

acoustic dune
placid fiber
#

oh wait

hearty nebula
#

arbites aint even out and already lookin kind of juicy ngl

#

i already know what sort of build i wanna do

placid fiber
acoustic dune