zealot-class

[median steeple]

shroom.....

[flint frigate]

Thats not the homophobic dog

[visual stream]

It looks like a gogooby

[trail mantle]

huh

[drowsy steppe]

shes just chillinn

[flint frigate]

The meme looks wrong with a cat

[drowsy steppe]

in the camp chest

safekeeping purposes

[flint frigate]

Kinda messed up

[frozen kernel]

Queen shit

[drowsy steppe]

Queen shit

[visual stream]

They could never make me hurt you Karlach

[grizzled aspen]

Sorry Karlach, I can't be bothered getting involved with the mess that is Wyll's pact.

[frozen kernel]

Those nice paladins said she was bad news and so did the weird guy with the rapier

Had to kill her

[grizzled aspen]

(I find both Karlach and Wyll to be incredibly dull characters)

[frozen kernel]

I also thought it was incredibly funny that they added more dialogue to the Karlach interaction to make extra sure people didn’t accidentally kill her

[drowsy steppe]

she couldve been a danger to the realms 😦

[trail mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-gif-25032219

[frozen kernel]

You have to be like “no seriously I’m going to kill you now” like three times

[drowsy steppe]

the choice was clear

[visual stream]

Some "opinions" are objectively wrong and that's okay

[frozen kernel]

Karlach is just a worse Juhani

[visual stream]

Idk who that is

[frozen kernel]

KOTOR 1 companion

[visual stream]

Also real ones remember when Karlach did NOT look how she looks now

Like at all

[drowsy steppe]

I remember

[visual stream]

What would you say if I told you I also have no idea what KOTOR is

[frozen kernel]

I’d say you should check it out

[drowsy steppe]

not entirely wrong xd

[copper hawk]

2 the chum chamber w u lil blud

[frozen kernel]

Really great RPG if you enjoyed BG3

[plush estuary]

real

[frozen kernel]

Just a little old

[drowsy steppe]

Ive ranted plenty of Karlach and Wylls underbaked shipped version of their characters

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1374399585073627299/rekt.gif

[grizzled aspen]

Sniper gauntlet, NOW.

[copper hawk]

Ainz u should play guts and blackpowder

[green yacht]

it just did that on its own

[copper hawk]

I woke up early and cant go back to sleep

I think i might be fucked

[frozen kernel]

Best companions are Minthara and Scratch, obv

[plush estuary]

no thanks

[copper hawk]

WHY !!!

[visual stream]

Ermmm Scratch technicawwy not companion

[frozen kernel]

Companionship is offered at camp

He is companion ♥️

[frozen kernel]

Oathbreaker seems like cool dude

[grizzled aspen]

Ok but like, owlbear.

[median steeple]

Armoured owlbear is the best reward

[frozen kernel]

Omelette du Fromage

[frozen kernel]

But filling the camp with critters is peak

Except the squirrel in grove

Even non Durge gotta kick that fucker

[delicate shadow]

Oatbreaker knight is great, he's one of my favourite side characters ngl

but also definitely do not playfully shove him, he will not understand and might one shot Wyll and Shart

[visual stream]

That squirrel deserves the durge treatment in every universe

[undone pewter]

oatbreaker

[delicate shadow]

BREAKIN OATS

https://tenor.com/view/pigs-pig-no-brother-oat-gif-9423941738133334633

[grizzled aspen]

Shart gets obliterated in just about every combat she gets into BECAUSE SHE CANT HIT ANYTHING I DONT UNDERSTAND.

[indigo pike]

For Relic Blade, is the Mark II just better, although with a higher skill floor? Or is the Mark X's speed also good? I'm getting closer to playing at Heresy with Relic Blade and I want to know which would be better for it

[visual stream]

It's kind of weird that in-lore you get other abilities for breaking your oath

Instead of just being obliterated with divine retribution

Gotta let players keep playing though I suppose

[grizzled aspen]

Mk10 is the better one if you're looking solely at numbers, but mk2 has, in my opinion, the more versatile moveset.

It's really just a matter of preference.

[drowsy steppe]

YOU HAVE BROKEN YOUR OATH PALADIN

[delicate shadow]

something something forces of darkness fill the void of your heart and now you get paladin powers for free (well technically not for free but from a player perspective it really is just free real estate if you're not fussed about the RP aspect)

[drowsy steppe]

said the Scottish man calmly

[sullen forge]

Oatbreaker in an extremely strong scottish accent

[runic grotto]

mk II is just better imo

[sullen forge]

I do love playing Oathbreaker Paladin

shit is so much fun

[grizzled aspen]

Oath of Conquest would like a word.

[drowsy steppe]

yeep

[indigo pike]

I really, really like seeing a large amount of enemies die at once

[grizzled aspen]

(shit is basically an unbreakable oath)

[runic grotto]

mk x has way easier combo of lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb lmb

[delicate shadow]

you gotta respec her to get her to hit stuff, Shart's default stat distribution is hilariously garbage

[sullen forge]

Go my zombies

[grizzled aspen]

(you have to try)

[visual stream]

So if you take an oath to be evil and hurt people

Are your oathbreak powers uhhh

Good?

[grizzled aspen]

Even respecced, she still doesn't hit anything. She's fkn cursed, I swear.

[delicate shadow]

you just go from being evil to being batman (but evil)

[sullen forge]

Chaotic Good/Neutral

[grizzled aspen]

You're telling me out of the 10 times I've cast guiding bolt in the last 30 minutes, she's missed every time?

[median steeple]

yeah that comes with worshipping fuck ass sharr

stupid god

[sullen forge]

What I role with anyways lmao

[spare talon]

youre telling me, a character called shart has a stat distribution that is shart?

[visual stream]

Lady Shar brings blessed pain

Not for my enemies, for me

[delicate shadow]

Shar gotta be the dumbest fuckin' goddess straight up

[grizzled aspen]

I'm not even referring to that, I'm referring to the raw damage an oath of conquest paladin can just gib you with.

[delicate shadow]

loviatar got more going for her than shar

[grizzled aspen]

Basically a guaranteed smite with channel oath.

[visual stream]

Chrom from Conan Exiles got more going on than Shar

[sullen forge]

Oh I know, Oathbreaker can do some nutty DPS also

[jagged cradle]

i sometimes spawn him in just for the xp he drop a 1000

[drowsy steppe]

Sharts character sheet

I still dont understand what they were going for with the default stat

[grizzled aspen]

Whatever, go, my 5th level divine smite.

[delicate shadow]

yeah we killed him at level 4 (on accident) and got huge xp and I was like 'oh that's kinda worth it lol"

then I realised it locked me entirely out of respeccing my class lmao

[visual stream]

Only ten intelligence on a character who worships a goddess of trickery

Very bold play by Shart I must say

[jagged cradle]

lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

She was indoctrinated.

[delicate shadow]

tbf if I was raised by viconia my int would be low rolled too

[visual stream]

I know I know

Something something trauma

[drowsy steppe]

constantly mindwiped and brainwashed 😦

[delicate shadow]

head empty

https://tenor.com/view/shadowheart-gif-15320613383946376185

[jagged cradle]

simply listen to orders

easy as that

[drowsy steppe]

to which shes bad at even doing that

[visual stream]

Just run away

Quite shrimple

[drowsy steppe]

photo mode was quite fun to mess around with

[visual stream]

This would be a wizard's hip hop album cover

[drowsy steppe]

I was FLOATING

[visual stream]

Look at my car

Rare moment of sentience 💔

[hearty nebula]

smelly car

[visual stream]

The other one is stinkier

Even though she looks like she wouldn't be

[copper hawk]

That car is NOT sentient

Aint a thought in its eyes

Deep sea creature

[drowsy steppe]

cute lil thing

[sullen forge]

Sentience?

there is none

[visual stream]

He usually isn't that cute

[sullen forge]

its all instinct

[visual stream]

He is an old man who complains a lot

[delicate shadow]

what my cat is up to rn

[trail mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-skate-board-gif-778367011615093516

[visual stream]

Probably what both of mine are up to when I'm at work

[copper hawk]

Cats look kinda yummy ngl ,,

[runic grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-so-talented-fullsized-cat-hoverboard-gif-19580616

[sage swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956315705232457791/1328329680578674738/pokes_you.gif

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-charge-cuirassier-gif-14246375222691590445

[jagged cradle]

where’s his hoarse

[blissful frigate]

he has a dueling sword he doesnt need a horse

[copper hawk]

Id solo afton

No diff

[visual stream]

What did they mean by this

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-charge-cuirassier-gif-14246375222691590445

[jagged cradle]

you’d get diffed

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/cappie-miside-mita-cool-mita-awkward-gif-14361103878834243405

[hushed knoll]

Is this you

[delicate shadow]

Yeah stan that's me irl

nobody on the internet notices I'm a cat

[hushed knoll]

Are you a lawyer cat

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lawyer-im-on-the-call-and-im-not-a-cat-gif-20330648

@north sedge is

[delicate shadow]

no I violated the law

[deft atlas]

i think my biggest issue was getting complacent and just doing mindless killing and getting caught by something xD

[grizzled aspen]

Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence.

(or however that oblivion quote goes)

[deft atlas]

devil claw changes seem nice coming in update no ?

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gamerpoop-criminal-scum-gif-15277113

[void bison]

all changes are bad and no change is good

[deft atlas]

y for

they are buffing

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/firebreak-fbc-firebreak-fbc-control-control-firebreak-gif-1313181676336499242

[visual stream]

My dihling sword 💔

[void bison]

because they changed things!!! change is scary!!!

[deft atlas]

dueling sword crutch is cringe tbh im happy they are changing meta

[deft atlas]

wtf game is this

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you-should-leave-darmine-doggy-door-dog-door-monster-tim-robinson-gif-16709599059712797889

[void bison]

they should nerf everything and double player movement speed

double it and give it to the next person

[deft atlas]

D:

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/fbc-firebreak-logo-fbc-firebreak-paranatural-augment-gif-17872428600206662063

https://tenor.com/view/fbc-firebreak-firebreak-redfall-gif-16978056520446056237

💀

[void bison]

I wanna play GTFO again someday

[deft atlas]

mixed reviews 40$ sus

[misty nova]

It's a fun game

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

Just not a lot of stuff to do

[void bison]

it stands on the shoulders of giants like Alan wake and control

[deft atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[misty nova]

(wait a couple months)

[void bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359054581340176396/1384653758927077476/RDT_20250615_1839526802431030632502279.gif

[misty nova]

Remedy games that also had rough starts

💀

FUCK YOU REMEDY!

[deft atlas]

whoa

[misty nova]

Why are your games so good

And so bad

😭

[drowsy steppe]

in 1v1 combat duel to the death right

honor duel for honor style

mortal kombat until one side done a fatality right

[drowsy steppe]

yes

[void bison]

I don't know of any complaints about the release of Alan wake or control besides probably assuming that Alan wake 2 ran like shit

[drowsy steppe]

new movest for mark 1

damage scaling changes (buffed)

new attack chain on the mark 7

[deft atlas]

what build u recommend for devil claw?

i wanna try it

[drowsy steppe]

just go with FOTF and blazing piety or IJ

[deft atlas]

bruh

[drowsy steppe]

you can 1 shot a crusher with fotf 🙂

[deft atlas]

oooo

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158856643866533929/1292152344879955978/Dclaw_crusher.mp4?ex=68543226&is=6852e0a6&hm=34a7c0cda2d855e73883926273dcb175e36f113319923cbec1efbb32d49296da& play around with the parry

TF?

[deft atlas]

i feel like IJ would be more useful though than blazing

[drowsy steppe]

@delicate shadow

Incan help

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960914817160450078/1385048748442386525/Young_Sheldon_Creates_a_Dark_Fountain.mp4?ex=6854a6aa&is=6853552a&hm=b77405113a6d4921c9c34a742b7007357b1338034ff8ad8fbe1a147c0e605edc&

[drowsy steppe]

totally

[misty nova]

Alan wake 2 still trying to recuperate the costs of development

[drowsy steppe]

Rampage and Savage sweep for IJ

[misty nova]

We won't see Alan Wake 3 for a while

[torn whale]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[drowsy steppe]

Rampage and Shred for Piety because critfish weapons makes crit CDR better

[misty nova]

Although Control 2 is right around the corner

Surely they learned something with Control

[drowsy steppe]

<@&735928989146939404> nsfw

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/813597405042966558.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=soggatalk

[drowsy steppe]

thanks 🙂

[deft atlas]

what secondary weapon u reckon?

[carmine falcon]

i was gonna tell bro to unalive

[drowsy steppe]

I like bolt pistol

and flamer

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-water-swimming-perfect-gif-19877762

[misty nova]

[delicate shadow]

why must allah curse my eyes to witness such horrors

[misty nova]

Poor wardens

[deft atlas]

both good choices

[carmine falcon]

allah is merely testing you brother

my that bozo taste the fiery fire of jahannam 🔥

[drowsy steppe]

take scourge too for more crit chance

[delicate shadow]

🧿 cleansing this chat of the evil

[drowsy steppe]

its not our fault this time

my eyes was cursed with seeing live action mpreg

[torn whale]

No mpreg during pride month?

What a shame

[drowsy steppe]

not in this emperor's holiest chat

nsfw is against the rules

[cinder steeple]

Does the loner ability stack?

[sullen forge]

thank you MPragerU

[drowsy steppe]

loner aura dont stack with other loners

[carmine falcon]

thank you mpragerU

wtf

[ripe quest]

Still peeved beyond imagination that the Ogryn trailer version of the Darktide theme still isn't available.

[sullen forge]

you owe me 20 bucks

[median steeple]

twinkjak my beloved

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-meme-blink-original-gif-27529535

[cinder steeple]

Does beacon of purity stack?

[drowsy steppe]

they had to have to do some

[drowsy steppe]

skidaddle skidoodle with fellow men

to check if its true

[misty nova]

Auras don't stack

[lusty turtle]

no ai

[orchid cipher]

Based

[carmine falcon]

brother deleted tung tung tung sahur....

crazy

[pale spindle]

You checked?

[torn whale]

The Tung tung tung sahur suppression is real

💔

[misty nova]

Good

[cinder steeple]

What should I run for assault chainaxe build?

[sullen forge]

Im going to subject myself to torture

[pale spindle]

Ok can I join?

[spare talon]

slight more clarification
the same exact aura cannot stack
base auras can stack with the same upgraded aura
also the dog counting to coherency node stacks, but the tdr it gives doesnt for arbites

[sullen forge]

and use the Column III Vigilant

[spare talon]

standard ij

[torn whale]

Is that the single shot one?

[sullen forge]

3 round burst

[void bison]

oh that's not a game issue though I thought you meant rocky releases not making peak at a loss

[cinder steeple]

?

[torn whale]

Not that bad

[sullen forge]

weakest of the Vigils

[misty nova]

Nuh uh

[torn whale]

Trust

[plush estuary]

No aura stacks

[torn whale]

Can one tap a crusher I believe

[sullen forge]

Agri (2 round) and Graia (Single) are far more reliable

[misty nova]

Fair enough

[ripe quest]

Got it, running no coherency aura build to stack TDR.

[torn whale]

Or was that the 2 burst one

[plush estuary]

Oh my God, discord loaded me up so far. Sorry for the replay

[misty nova]

At least firebreak stuff isn't about bugs and shit

[spare talon]

the 2 burst was the agrip 9 i think

gale would know the exact name

[torn whale]

2 burst can 1 shot crushers

[carmine falcon]

me when i dont release my vidya on steam

[deft atlas]

where the phage tree camed from tho

[cinder steeple]

But what about the weapon?

[misty nova]

Auras can't stack
Infectious Zeal can't stack

Why live

[deft atlas]

not so infectious then is it

[void bison]

frogs can stack

[carmine falcon]

im ngl i played for an hour and a half and it just felt very
i know every horde game starts slow but firebreak left 0 impression on me lol

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-stack-gif-24890052

https://tenor.com/view/frog-froge-froge-stack-toads-carry-gif-21961423

[spare talon]

like what chainaxe? either depending on which moveset you like
the mk4 wants ht slaught and the mk12 can do the same but also can swap slaught for thrust what with its heavies being straight strikedowns

[cinder steeple]

There are multiple?

[drowsy steppe]

wallahi the Scandinavians are cursed I tell you

[cinder steeple]

I’ve just been getting them from the missions

[drowsy steppe]

cursed to have the most horrid horde shooter launch

a multiversal constant

[void bison]

I want to try arc raiders

[carmine falcon]

the cool stuff was just funny things you'd find in control

aka old house stuff

idk why a game with like 5 mission types decided to have a slow progression system lol

[drowsy steppe]

its live service mindset

[misty nova]

Yeah
Lots of weapons have different marks

[drowsy steppe]

because they'll release content eventually

[carmine falcon]

its imma uninstall mindset

[misty nova]

But just use what you want

It's way more fun this way

[drowsy steppe]

Ive seen it all before with Darktide because I was there when we had to wait 1 hour everytime to buy the weapon we want

[misty nova]

Quantum break 2 when

[void bison]

literally tomorrow

[misty nova]

[carmine falcon]

more games should be like nightreign where its clear its a game u beat bunch of times and be done with it instead of stupid gating

[misty nova]

Fr?

[drowsy steppe]

bruh

[carmine falcon]

only things u "grind" for in nightreign are stupid rng relics and u dnt need them because the best relics drop at fixed points

[sullen forge]

Ip grabber

[misty nova]

No fr

[carmine falcon]

lmao

[drowsy steppe]

never forget

[misty nova]

Whatever
Go Tim E. Breaker

[drowsy steppe]

the horror

[obtuse stirrup]

Headtaker vs Slaughterer for thunderhammer

[drowsy steppe]

head

[obtuse stirrup]

been using headtaker because it seems safer

[misty nova]

Yeah

More lenient

Easier to stack

[obtuse stirrup]

but lower duration and power

and if I'm hitting something with a bonkstick, it's probably dying

[carmine falcon]

headtaker is always up

[drowsy steppe]

its also just better for bossdamage

[void bison]

apolocheese for the sinister bamboozling. I was led by dark spirits and voices

[obtuse stirrup]

I guess it's just for bosses

[carmine falcon]

just keep hitting things

[drowsy steppe]

you stack 5 stacks of HT then charged heavy

[misty nova]

But what if it isn't

[drowsy steppe]

cant do that with ST

[misty nova]

So pick your poison

Easier to stack

Or

[obtuse stirrup]

fury of the faithful and ij are the practical choices too right?

[obsidian prairie]

It’s consistency versus peak performance

[misty nova]

More value

[obsidian prairie]

I run headtaker because it’s easier

[drowsy steppe]

Ill have 2 number 9s

a number 9 large

a number 6 with extra dip

[obtuse stirrup]

EXTRA DIP

[drowsy steppe]

bruh wrong reply

[misty nova]

[drowsy steppe]

wrong msg to reply

[carmine falcon]

i like marty hammer but its for the brave

[obsidian prairie]

Thammer can run every keystone

FotF is the pick though

[drowsy steppe]

Ill have 2 number 9s

[obtuse stirrup]

shroud is memes?

[hexed igloo]

A number 9 large

[obtuse stirrup]

plus no double charge

[misty nova]

All you had to do, was reply to the right message

[drowsy steppe]

I know you blind man but you gotta see this

👁️ 👄 👁️

[obsidian prairie]

Shroud is expensive and FotF does it better versus everything but bosses

[carmine falcon]

shroudfield is fun if u know how to use it but fotf is cooler

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[hexed igloo]

Fotf is way more fun than anything else in the game

[drowsy steppe]

martyrdom shroudfield

[obsidian prairie]

It requires you spend like 2 points to get to it or run Loner

[obtuse stirrup]

Flamer and throwing knives the natural pairings too right?

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[obsidian prairie]

Neither of which are good options

[carmine falcon]

run any weapon that helps u deal with lots of mobs

[obsidian prairie]

Shredder is also a great pick, fills its every weakness

[hexed igloo]

Both are cringe if you're running both you're double cringe

[misty nova]

Yeah but not so much flamer since they buffed horde clearing

Slightly

[obtuse stirrup]

I changed my flamer to flak/maniac to make it better at rager mobs

since my hammer's got unyielding covered

[obsidian prairie]

Try autopistol

It’s got the sprint speed and maniac damage thammer sorely needs

[hexed igloo]

I just run evis with flak + rampage to deal with everything rager sized and under, back pocket boltgun for everything bigger

[obtuse stirrup]

Oh, I'm just using thunder hammer because funder hammer

I'm 1200 hours deep into this game

[hexed igloo]

Evis my baby

[obtuse stirrup]

and haven't used them since before they got that vertical swing for their charged heavy

[hexed igloo]

Fuck everything else huge chainsword

[obtuse stirrup]

I've been a chain axe stan for ages

[hexed igloo]

I thought I'd like it but it's too sticky

[obsidian prairie]

Shredder is weirdly fun for an automatic

[obtuse stirrup]

You gotta use heavies a lot with the chainaxe

[obsidian prairie]

Probably because of the built in run n gun and really fast draw

[obtuse stirrup]

you take the talent to give you toughness on them too

I used to use shredder a lot when it was op and I hated it

[hexed igloo]

Iirc someone saying the other mk chain axe doesn't stick to everything, but I lost game privilige when they took away library sharing :((

[obtuse stirrup]

so gonna stick with flamer because I got the bastard skin for it

[obsidian prairie]

Its balance now and not trash

[obtuse stirrup]

oh I only use the chain axe 4 of the two of them anyway

[mighty root]

Can’t wait for the evis changes

Uncapped perfect strike

Wish it was on dclaw

Is on hsword for some reason tho

[drowsy steppe]

cant wait to play space SWAT

[misty nova]

Ok so now that I checked that trapper doesn't take 3x melee

It makes sense as to why she doesn't insta die with a bloodthirsty rev heavy

[deft atlas]

okay but what MK devil claw u using

[misty nova]

4 or 7

As always

Current Mk1 has no reliable Strikedown

Which will change soon

[hard nexus]

with what weapon

what evis

she dies to both

without maniac

[misty nova]

Evis15

She dies to both yeah

But a CRIT rev heavy will instakill flamers

She takes 2 ticks and die

[hard nexus]

ohhg that’s what u mean

yeah

[hard nexus]

foap!

[deft atlas]

with claw just max stam and stam regen spam parry , kill everything ez

[misty mason]

Cant wait for that balance updte, evisc cap change is gonna be yueg

[visual stream]

Or an ironhelm activated L1

[visual stream]

Is the eviscerator a generalist weapon you'd say

Been itching to use one but I'm not sure what the focus of it is

[rough galleon]

Yeah
Atm it's like a relic blade but not as good
Also there's the boring boring boring awful but better mark and the fun mark, but too many people unironically like vt2's executioner sword to say that out loud

[misty nova]

Oh no

We know that 15 is boring

And that 3 is dogshit

[ripe quest]

I love weird 50% maniac modifiers

[misty nova]

Don't worry about it

[ripe quest]

Better if you like light spam but the H1 is nice on the Mk III and doesn't have bugged stagger.

[visual stream]

Exe sword is simple fun but I like a neat moveset more

[visual stream]

We talked about it the other day but I never got your two cents
What would you probably change about helm if you could?

[ripe quest]

I'm not much of a Thammer expert, so I don't have a very grounded answer. My first thought would probably be to address the horrendous ADMs it has, which would affect the Crucis too. Few of them make sense relative to eachother. The crowd damage combos on the Ironhelm specifically are kinda weird, Crucis is better by default for base attacks into crowds but the Ironhelm is intended to trade single target for more forgiving hits and better crowd damage, you can get it by bcing the H2 but that's not really intuitive. If the weapon by default uses mixed combos the lights should be workable, especially as it's the startup for the L1 H2. It just feels clunky to get to the H3 too.

I'd need to lab some stuff out though to give a concrete opinion ig, it's a complex issue that I have with it but I wouldn't want to rework it.

[void bison]

+1 billion damage

[ripe quest]

based

[void bison]

would be a reasonable change

only on heavies ofc not lights

[visual stream]

I don't know the numbers with ADMs but I do think some kind of scaling with enemy max health in return for a little lower damage all around could be an okay way of keeping it viable in modes where enemy health is scaled up (overall damage increase)

This could apply to both marks but doing it for both could easily make Ironhelm better than Crucis objectively and that wouldn't be good for Crucis' single target identity

[delicate shadow]

honestly it doesn't even feel like executioner to me just because the headshots don't have the same meaty sfx

huge L for the weapon

[full nebula]

crusher needs better sound design and impact feel

sounds like its weightless

[ripe quest]

I almost want to say that if they swapped the lights it'd fix a couple issues. Make the L1 (now a single target) chain into H3/L2 and H1 chain into L2 (now a cleave)/H2. Make L2 a minor finesse cleave of some kind, better cleave profile, give it a rapid chain into L1 and a normal chain into H1. Almost would be tempted to make H1 and H2 loop. Make PA a stagger-reduction-ignore uppercut that chains into H3 and L2.

So you're picking L1 or PA to setup H3 or just doing H1/L2. With looping H1 and H2 you could have L2 be a situational option for cleave or just a quick pivot into the single target.

[visual stream]

I'd look into doing either that, the slight special/elite cleave idea, or for Ironhelm specifically, maybe increasing damage on the activated detonation for every trash enemy you cleave on the way to the boom.

Could even make it a blessing so it's not a huge boost in power

[delicate shadow]

that's because it's hollow inside, the empty space is filled with the weight of the zealot's faith

my source is uhhh uhm

[visual stream]

The last option would reward you for what you should already be doing with Ironhelm, cleaving as much trash before the elite/special/whatev as possible

I like that one personally

[visual stream]

I love the combo change ideas

As much as I like it, it's a little awkward and not servicable as is

Other than knowing that you can either loop H1/H2 or go into H3 with activations depending on if you hold attack as charging or not

[tawdry hinge]

do you guys think evis buffs will be enough?

[ripe quest]

They obviously have a little hampster in there spinning a wheel really fast to generate the boom energy.

[tawdry hinge]

am interested in it again lol

[delicate shadow]

it should leave it in a pretty solid place, at most it'll need a slight bump up but the damage cap removal is huge

[tawdry hinge]

true true finally no cleave cap

[ripe quest]

We don't know the full extent of the changes. Depends on what they set the default target to for lights and how the cleave distribution is affected in practice. I personally don't think it'll make the Evis' rival Relic Blade outside of single target just based on the patch notes, and the Mk XV is probably going to be the better benefitted of the two.

[sullen forge]

Holy abysmal dogshit auric board

[obsidian ore]

If I have to give my two cents about it:
I play with crucis wayy more so I’m going to talk about that one instead. (But these should apply to both thammers overall)

Thunderhammers are already limited by their dogsh*t mobility and dodges, and the special ability taking literally forever.

The buffs should be simple:
1: Up the light attack adms a bit, make them not too strong against carapace but decently strong against any lesser armored target (to be used in a pinch as single target clear)

2: Up the heavy sweeps to actually deal damage. It needs to have decent horde clear and decent flak damage. Overall all adms upupupup

3: Special heavy should one shot every regular enemy (no montrosities or captains) up to and including crushers at any diff. (Including havoc 40.)

This weapon should be the numero uno armor destroyer in the game. It’s special is already clunky to use against multiple elites/mixed hordes. It should be unparalelled in single target dmg.

[misty nova]

You say that as if evis15 is bad

Smh

But yeah

Good news

[ripe quest]

Do you happen to know what they meant by "Added power level multiplier 525 to..."? It seems like they used the wrong name for the buff but I'm unsure as to what it is, seems like power distribution?

[tawdry hinge]

i havent heard the term power level multi before

[obsidian ore]

Hell, I am even thinking about something crazy. Thunderhammer should be the only melee weapon in the game that can damage through bulwark shields with heavy special attack

[tawdry hinge]

idk whats up with it either

[ripe quest]

It's used internally but the values are like, 0.5-1.5 usually. It's a proper mult. So it being anything near 500 would be absurd.

[visual stream]

Yeah I agree. Crushers and even maulers a little feel really really fucking bad to not one shot on a weapon being so slow and risking taking attacks while you take three to five entire seconds for one attack

[ripe quest]

So it's obv not the actual power level multiplier.

[copper hawk]

Uh

Yes more than likely

[tawdry hinge]

0.5 might be 500 maybe?

[visual stream]

Crucis on the bright side has cracked boss damage as a reason to use it in havoc, but it definitely deserves better

[obsidian ore]

Needing to hit bulwarks twice just to kill them ain’t fun, a shitty carapace shield ain’t gonna protect you against the punch of a thunderhammer

[visual stream]

And Ironhelm in havoc is now pretty much what it USED to be in damnation

[ripe quest]

Would be a nerf then, to my understanding.

[visual stream]

Which is to say, horrible

[ripe quest]

And it wasn't presented as a nerf.

[tawdry hinge]

ohh

then i have no idea

[visual stream]

I would love bulwark damage through shield on activated

[ripe quest]

Some weapons should be able to just break shields and then the Bulwarks become Fistwarks and just punch you to death like big unyielding ragers.

[visual stream]

We don't have a weapon that explicitly counters bulwarks at this point yet afaIk

[obsidian ore]

Exactly

[visual stream]

Long overdue

[obsidian ore]

I want thunderhammers to absolutely rip bulwarks, crushers and monsters apart

[visual stream]

I mean we're getting it with arbites dog assumably but still

[ripe quest]

Crusher moment. Also we used to it's just they were nerfed usually.

[obsidian ore]

But struggle with multiple elites and mixed

[ripe quest]

Flamer and Kant Shotgun were absolutely absurd for Bulwarks.

But alas, the thing that made them absurd for Bulwarks made them absurd for everything else, big sadge.

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1382843203971186768/globe.gif

[north sedge]

i mean....th has mega unyielding just let the bulwark swing and it's dead

[ripe quest]

Best alternative honestly is gonna be immo grenades. They're kinda cracked at anti-bulwark.

just throw and watch them turn into meat ig

[void bison]

just make a giant 2h flail with a spiked servitor skull that ignores shields

[obsidian ore]

That’s the problem innit? You have to make the bulwark do a swing while you face a trillion enemies at the same time

Thunderhammer should be ripping through that carapace shield

[visual stream]

I'm debating now if in this vision I would prefer Ironhelm to lean more into being good at multiple elites or somehow be a sidegrade to Crucis

[obsidian ore]

Gonna be a hard one to answer while it’s just a hypothetical

[visual stream]

Just cleave trash better into ragers I guess?

[obsidian ore]

I might pitch this idea as a rework to fs tho

[visual stream]

Yeah

[obsidian ore]

I think it’s what thunderhammer needs

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/tonypunchinghulk-tonystark-tony-punching-bruce-age-of-ultron-avengers-gif-19993217

[ripe quest]

This weapon should be the numero uno armor destroyer in the game. It’s special is already clunky to use against multiple elites/mixed hordes. It should be unparalelled in single target dmg.
Chaxe moment. Thammer is just kinda the obliterate soft targets weapon while the Chaxe is for flak/cara.

The dynamic works pretty well but Thammer is just missing some funky vibes.

[obsidian ore]

I’d say it should be the opposite

Thunderhammer should obliterate armor, while chainaxe rips through flesh

Chainaxe should be very strong against everything non flak, good against flak and decent against carap

[misty nova]

That's the Chainsword

Munching Unarmored and Infested

[obsidian ore]

Should be chain weapons overall if you ask me

But I like the current chainaxe

It just needs some minor working on it

My main problem with it is the slowdown during light swing

That one is so cancer

(The one that doesnt get stuck on lights)

[visual stream]

I'm not super knowledgable about chaxe gaming but it makes sense lore wise too I think?

[obsidian ore]

Maybe less cleave overall but more damage? Idk. Just shooting ideas here

[visual stream]

Wondering if thammer would need any compensation nerfs for balance or if just the hypothetical buffs put it in a healthy state

Think probably just the buffs unless they go crazy with it

[obsidian ore]

I am going to say it should still be not a strong as ds4 lmao

Even with all just straight buffs

Since you still have 0 mobility

[visual stream]

yarp

[clever swan]

glorp

it would be nice if armor was destructible

[visual stream]

I think you could squeeze the new blessing idea I had for helm's niche in the hypothetical rework

Probably don't make it basekit but as a blessing would be cool

[clever swan]

not sure how they'd balance it exactly but hitting the same area 10 times should probably reduce armor's effectiveness a little

[visual stream]

That could be cool

[devout flicker]

it'd be cool if thunderhammer while chargin a special heavy did a small aoe suppression

wouldnt help for shit with infested hordes but it'd hit stun dreg hordes giving you some time to breathe

by small i literally mean 2 meter radius

they're in awe of your aurafarming thats why they're suppressed

that or you could give it a lethal proximtity blessing where after heavy special everything around the target gets thoinked away

[visual stream]

Neat idea

Probably when you lift it and it flashes is when it would do it xd

[devout flicker]

personally though they should just make the lights a bit better since its damn near the same moveset as 2h hammer from vt2

except 2h hammer from vt2 1 tap headshot that games version of scab ragers (i am approximating stormvermin in this category)

the lights got better but they're still kinda poop

hammers biggest weakness ends up being rager hordes often

[north sedge]

the vt2 hammer has it's anti-armor on the lights, where dt's is on the special

[devout flicker]

we can have both

darktide melee across the board is usually way more overtuned than vt2s and that's okay

with the exception of dueling swords vs rapier where rapier in vt2 is actually way more cracked lmao

[visual stream]

Rapier is even more busted?

I'm not sure I believe it

[clever swan]

it one shots god

[misty nova]

It goes brrrrrr

[delicate shadow]

I've never seen nubmers like that used so not sure, I'm used to the whole decimal point thing lmao

[median steeple]

nubmers

[devout flicker]

imagine dueling sword with lights that have rashad cleave and a special where you pull out an infinite ammo pistol (that loses damage outside of 5 meters, but it has massive stagger like ds4 special)

[delicate shadow]

rapier is definitely a lot more balanced than DS4

[devout flicker]

DS4 is so dominant because of how fatshark handled armor in dt vs vt2 tbh

[delicate shadow]

you can't one shot chaos warriors or chunk out monsters with rapier

[sage swan]

The Dualshock 4...

[sullen forge]

DS4 is the ultimate I wish to not learn how to play the game melee

its depressing

[devout flicker]

um

deathknell...

[delicate shadow]

deathknell the talent on whc?

[devout flicker]

yeah

[delicate shadow]

50% headshot damage doesn't get you a cata CW one shot BP

[devout flicker]

it doint but a full charge heavy into light charge does and it does chunk bosses

but yea DS4 even though side to side is weaker its stronger by nature of what surrounds it

darktide made carapace an unreachably painful thing to kill for most weapons

meanwhile just about every weapon can kill a CW in VT2

some not amazingly but not devil claw level of slow

[native geode]

How should I build my chainsword compared to my heavy chainsword?

[ripe quest]

hm, we'll see with the patch then. I'm really assuming power distribution but a lot of the numbers neighbor just a bit over 500. Seems specific and also not the format of power distribution.

[delicate shadow]

there's very few things that will one shot chaos warriors in melee is the thing, and it often requires career specific ultimates or builds to do so

DS4 just does it

[orchid cipher]

WP great hammer my beloved

[devout flicker]

off topic but i'm running a blazing piety infernus reconlas, i can see the potential of dumdum but if my aim is good enough should i go headhunter

[amber igloo]

ok so enhanced description says that piety should lose stacks gradually

anyone knows why that is?

it certainly does not do that

[delicate shadow]

like Rapier is a great weapon because it's got good mobility, good defensive value and doesn't slouch in dps (on WHC specifically) but it's generally a weaker weapon when it comes to actually chunking stuff out

[amber igloo]

fuck rapier

billhook masterrace

[delicate shadow]

billhook does a better job in that regard, if we're to stick to WHC as a comparison point

[amber igloo]

best weapon in the game

[devout flicker]

i mean yeah billhook is absurd

[devout flicker]

?

[amber igloo]

no

recon crit dmg is pretty booty

[delicate shadow]

and billhook ain't one shotting chaos warriors either, nor chunking out bosses, it just does good dps to most everything

[amber igloo]

it benefits more from ranged dmg

[devout flicker]

its abt flame stacks for me

how close is close ranged damage again?

[amber igloo]

that's never an issue

recons have a crit string of 2

[orchid cipher]

12.5m

[misty nova]

12.5 meters

[amber igloo]

you jsut need to crit twice to cap infernus

[devout flicker]

fair

[misty nova]

Falls off until hits 0% at effectiveness at 30 meters

[orchid cipher]

cant wait for taxe buffs

[amber igloo]

if you wanna lean into crits, laspistol is a much better choice

[misty nova]

close range
Looks inside
30 meters

[amber igloo]

when poeple argue me about the usefulness of longshot

fuckin useless talent

[orchid cipher]

I like number

number up

that good

[amber igloo]

close range going from 8 to 12.5 pretty much killed longshot

[devout flicker]

yeah fair

[sullen forge]

true

[devout flicker]

im running it a bit different though. i like unyielding because it takes care of reapers a bit better

when blazing piety is active trappers die damn near instantly anyway

[amber igloo]

you know how fuckin far 30m is in DT?

[sullen forge]

Incredibly far

[amber igloo]

and at 20 you get like wht, 9%?

12% maybe

can't remember from the top of my head

[devout flicker]

yea fair. the crit strings make it almost 100% crit uptime

[sullen forge]

20-25 is usually the normal "long distance" lenght

you'll have moments of the rare 30-40

[devout flicker]

imma run it with flak/unyielding then

[sullen forge]

but thats map dependent

[devout flicker]

laspis is nice but i just find reconlas a bit better sustain for being a "discount" vet

[amber igloo]

targets at 30m are pretty harmless as well

yea no 6C recon is the best zealot jack-of-all

that and bistol

you can trigger enduring faith with, it has good dmg, really good ammo econ

[clever swan]

snipes you or throws a bomb

[amber igloo]

infernus

[amber igloo]

for which, you won't need longshot

500hp sniper

[devout flicker]

bistol is fantastic but im building this for havoc and i need something better for anti shooter and gunner (my friend always plays infernus psyker so the flamer feels pretty unnecessary)

[amber igloo]

ye 6c recon is excellent for havoc

[devout flicker]

ive used reconlas vet on havoc before and did fantastic

[amber igloo]

I wouldn't advise the 12 on zealot, it eats ammo like popcorn

and 14 uses 2 ammo per shot

[devout flicker]

I use 12 atm

let me check 6c

[amber igloo]

its a tad less dmg, but far better ammo efficiency

and since recon has crit strings, you'll have maxed infernus anyhow

always

[hard nexus]

yeah

[amber igloo]

not even mentioning the fact, the 12 has longer swap and reload times

something you don't want on a zealot

[devout flicker]

honestly never tried 6c but this thing fucks

still does good on infernus it seems

[amber igloo]

yea, the middle mark is usually the worst one

so not many tries the 6c out

or I don't know, maybe they just mesmerized by the BRRRRRR of 12

[devout flicker]

although i oughta try laspis out too

i just like the ability to spray a little with the recons

[amber igloo]

laspistol uses 2 and 3 ammo per shot depending on mark

it has waaaay worse ammo econ than the 6c

it has much better finesse modifiers tho

so does really good dmg in zealot's hand

[devout flicker]

honestly i dont need to overkill on ammo econ

even with the ammo guzzling flamer i was still floating above 0 on havoc

[amber igloo]

bro, the lower econ you are, the more your pugs can gobble up everything, the better your chances at winning

at least that's my gameplan usually

[devout flicker]

i dont play havoc with pugs thats like going to a cosmetic surgeon and asking for a surprise

[amber igloo]

and in the age of the rumbler spam, ammo is a precious commodity 😄

fair enough

[devout flicker]

whats the range of anoint in blood, same 30m or nah

nvm i cant rlly afford it in this build

[misty nova]

If it's close range

Max effectiveness up to 12.5

Decays until minimum at 30

[devout flicker]

ughhh that is pretty good

but i dont think i can cut enduring faith out of this build and thats the only thing that could possibly go

unless i want to lose 10% crit from righteous warrior which I Do Not

oh well this thing is relying mostly on flame stacks anyway

[sterile basalt]

righteous warrior not rly worth tbh

it's only 10% crit chance

[devout flicker]

only

thats a lot on a reconlas with no headhunter

[sterile basalt]

BP itself is 1 point for 15% crit chance
righteous warrior is 2 points for 10% crit chance

just not that good of a deal

[devout flicker]

dawg

i dont disagree that losing it can be ok sometimes but nah i need it here

the crit strings start looking more like crit whiskers when i take it off

[plush estuary]

should I put an easier example to understand?

[green yacht]

are people having trouble understanding it?

[plush estuary]

idk

[clever swan]

i think wielded's is the proper word but it dont matter much

[green yacht]

id say wait until someone complains

seems pretty fucking simple to understand to me

[plush estuary]

maybe mentiuonn per4ks aswell

[green yacht]

also isnt hand cannon 60% rend?

[plush estuary]

oh

maybe?

[obsidian ore]

Someone said hamd cannon?

Ah no rip

[hexed igloo]

Hamd cammon

[plush estuary]

did you just wake up?

[obsidian ore]

Working

[plush estuary]

keje was waiting to play

ahhh

kk

[obsidian ore]

06.30 in the morning

[green yacht]

look at this guy

employed

[obsidian ore]

IK bro

[plush estuary]

I bet he wishses he wasnt

[obsidian ore]

You have no idea

[delicate shadow]

just start selling essential oils bruv

[jagged cradle]

how do you simplify that?

[plush estuary]

knife use perks and blessings

[jagged cradle]

nah

that’s not necessary

[copper hawk]

Working as well

From good ol

2110 to 05whenever relief arrives o'clock

[visual stream]

If they're so essential then why have I lived my life without them so far

[delicate shadow]

living without the essentials 😔

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-oil-gif-986369858884755900

[delicate shadow]

me when I'm feeling particularly white soccer mom

[sterile stone]

Time to hit the facebook forums

[delicate shadow]

fate worse than death

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[sullen forge]

Goonerbait

[full nebula]

[plush estuary]

quick, anyone give me misc tips for new players/new zealots

[sullen forge]

Uh

Don't be afraid to swap to ranged just because you're a melee focused class?

[jagged cradle]

stop working and play toys instead

[sterile stone]

This person clearly ain't played the first descendant

[misty nova]

Taking Cover still an option

Just watch out for flamers and bombers

Oh right

Unless you're max height

[drowsy steppe]

I have trouble understanding with the wording for a moment there

[misty nova]

Then low cover isn't as safe

[drowsy steppe]

I think noticeable example like tknives inheriting bistol with puncture's bleed can work

[drowsy steppe]

second wind procs off of any succesful dodge (dodging shooters, gunners, melee swings, iirc dogs too)

[hearty nebula]

don't die

[ripe quest]

Have a section on anti-shooter movement.

[plush estuary]

I'll mention ranged immunity while springint with stam perpendicular to shooters

[ripe quest]

There's a bit more to it than just that but that's at least a start. Make sure to mention swift certainty as well.

[plush estuary]

yup

its in the noob traps

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313671043629580309/1385110445920223282/RDT_20250604_1457445280741861685541456.png?ex=6854e020&is=68538ea0&hm=76d5eb7885b3603392b8d39e052343295f5a0c2d28b9648b0d05fe77f8a6c721&

[plush estuary]

but I'll explain its purpose

[ripe quest]

That's not what I said. Mention it w/ the anti-shooter movement section. Just saying it's bad doesn't explain what it's useful for.

If your guide takes build agency out of the player's hand it shouldn't be shared.

[copper hawk]

Nah it should be

[plush estuary]

I understand

[copper hawk]

More to the game than simple gameplay movement

Dont post a Soldier guide for TF2 if it takes away loadout agency

It's important that players know which weapons are more effective than others

[sage swan]

Tips... Uhh...
For zealot specifically, all I can really think of is that you stop shooters by being in melee range of them, and that the class excels at doing specifically that

[copper hawk]

Dont use the righteous bison

Dont use unremitting

Etc etc

But agree w exhillious

People need to know to spam slidesband dodges

Turning perpendicular to enemies firing to dodge towards them

[heady rapids]

make an ogryn instead

[copper hawk]

Knowing what death looks like and what it doesnt look like

Know when to slide and when to dodge when being fired at

[copper hawk]

Recommendations/video examples of juggling ranged enemies while in melee combat

Like the common case of timing dodges/slides while in melee combat to the rhythm of shotgunners

[plush estuary]

Miscellaneous Tips:
If playing Havoc, Auric/Maelstrom loadouts are subject to change

The difference between 60-80 mobility is very minimal enough that you won’t notice it, that’s why it’s a common dump. Defences is the main dump. Mobility being 2nd if defences is not on the weapon

When using chain weapons, use fury while it is shredding enemies with the special attack to do more damage to heavily armored or high health targets (Maulers, Crushers, Bosses)

When using a slow pullout weapon, Bolter and Flamer. While in the pullout animation throw a knife to finish the animation faster.

Push and Block is 360° with where your camera is looking reducing the stamina cost for blocking (I.E when reviving, looking at the enemy attacking you will reduce the stamina cost)

Throwing Knives take the weapon wielded properties (I.E. holding a Zarona revolver with hand cannon and surgical while aiming down sights your throwing knife will have 100% crit chance and 60% rending on crit)

Bursters increase their explosion radius if they are not pushed, meant to punish people who back dodge instead of pushing
By looking at an enemy then using fury of the faithful you will lock onto them and dash towards them increasing charge distance covered (default dash being 10 meters and a “lock” charge being 30 meters)

While using Fury of the Faithful you are immune to ranged damage, can combo very well with the “lock” charge (30 meter dash while immune to ranged damage)

Ranged enemies lose “tracking” when a player is sprinting perpendicular to them while having stamina (works without stamina when using the ‘swift certainty’ talent)

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-reading-read-gif-18708326

[plush estuary]

I saw that mpreg

[copper hawk]

None.

[sage swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359054581340176396/1384653758927077476/RDT_20250615_1839526802431030632502279.gif

[copper hawk]

Insane how this cat knows it's a reflection

But doesnt know she's not a dragon

Like almost self aware but not quite

[gaunt roost]

someone gotta pin this

[sage swan]

it's a shame that cat got burned to a crisp

[copper hawk]

It's in the guide

Which is pinned

[plush estuary]

it's in the guide

[copper hawk]

I'm assuming it is anyways

[plush estuary]

ye

[copper hawk]

I never actually read it

[plush estuary]

Live editing

people seeing me move pages

live

[grizzled aspen]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-vermintide-2/clips/kvdUJJz8brE4G1rkg?invite=cr-MSx5MW0sMjY5OTA3MzMz Watch Lumii get vibe checked by a gas rat.

[gaunt roost]

i never read anything in t in the guide except for weapon builds

[copper hawk]

Playing vt2

Look inside

Afk in keep

[copper hawk]

Noob down

[sullen forge]

Noob down

[grizzled aspen]

We legit got our asses beat by a stormfiend and a patrol of chaos warriors at the same time.

We were lucky to even be alive.

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/kwmvgwRey6IB9MKCw?invite=cr-MSxsRXQsMTA3NDAxNTcz

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

What in the FUCK is this sight?

[copper hawk]

Warzone lookin ahh fucking optic

[drowsy steppe]

I love swift certainty

[sullen forge]

Aquilon Tactical Sight?

custom made one

looks good

works good

[copper hawk]

Visual clutter

Yaaaaawn

All u need is a good ol pistol site

[grizzled aspen]

Too bad it sucks!

[copper hawk]

Like grandpappy intended

Hyeeeeup

Sips miller lite

New fangled optics these days

[grizzled aspen]

No, helbore irons on every gun for you.

Suffer.

[copper hawk]

Aint like that on Cadia..

[copper hawk]

Need to name my zealot Cuirassier and use a soundboard to play the charging sound

[hexed igloo]

This is me if u even care

[copper hawk]

Only use DS4

Or DS5

Or DClaw

[sullen forge]

We should hit you with rocks

[copper hawk]

Or HSword

[grizzled aspen]

Muted by literally everyone in your lobby forever speedrun:

[copper hawk]

I should hit u w a job application

[sullen forge]

DS2 cause you have both the poke and slash

loser

stinky

[copper hawk]

YO MAMA

YO MAMA !!!

[sullen forge]

brody?

[ripe quest]

While using Fury of the Faithful you are immune to ranged damage, can combo very well with the “lock” charge (30 meter dash while immune to ranged damage)
This isn't the proper explanation for this. Zealot's dash gives you a buff called no_toughness_damage_buff, which literally just multiplies toughness damage taken by 0. This can apply to more than just ranged attacks.

Ranged enemies lose “tracking” when a player is sprinting perpendicular to them while having stamina (works without stamina when using the ‘swift certainty’ talent)
Sprint dodging just gives you the "is_sprint_dodging" tag. This'll work exactly like how normal dodges do, including proccing iirc. This isn't an AI drop or anything.

[plush estuary]

was just a framework

was doing this while dead in VT

[tawny harbor]

see this is just one of those things, one of those things you see
all my life I've been told cats don't pass the mirror test
yet, just by observing cats, it's obvious they have a sense of self and understand what a mirror is
a lot of what we're taught is just straight up false
fake and gay, if you will, and anyone who tells you to just "trust the authorities" instead of doing your own thinking is a shill or a moron

[spare talon]

i love """i-framing""" bursters with fotf

[ripe quest]

Technically fotf and chastise are the best sources of tdr in the game. 10000 TDR-maxxers dead by the hour

If your reaction time is baller you can just tank literally anything that could be reacted to in 0.13s.

Except the things that you literally cannot tank. ez logic right there

[obsidian ore]

@plush estuary reading through all of my twins comments gets me fucking dead every single time

In fact I still need a creative comment from you

Read the comment by mutedmelody lmao fucking amazing one

[copper hawk]

Glorp

[misty nova]

Fighting Game players

https://tenor.com/view/si-va-in-scena-showtime-gif-25817813

[drowsy steppe]

Comp FPS players reaction time

[copper hawk]

For honor trained me 4 this

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/ball-aimlabs-gif-27507943

[gaunt roost]

fotf just gives full iframes???

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[plush estuary]

guh

[low coyote]

run combat blade

[plush estuary]

not a good idea

people who start with the knife/ds often dont learn the fundamentals

i.e how to manage melee combat instead of just running away

[low coyote]

they will learn.

[plush estuary]

not most

[drowsy steppe]

ah yea

[plush estuary]

I still know a level 6000 zealot that dies the instant he isnt using the knife or DS

since he is used to the mobility of that

[drowsy steppe]

@ripe quest https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158856643866533929/1292152344879955978/Dclaw_crusher.mp4?ex=68543226&is=6852e0a6&hm=34a7c0cda2d855e73883926273dcb175e36f113319923cbec1efbb32d49296da&

explain how tf parrying procs duelist and i frames

[plush estuary]

charge counts as a dodge

[drowsy steppe]

TIL

[plush estuary]

iirc

ham's steam comments are something else

what should I say

[plush estuary]

coal

what are my comment?

the real purple guy

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-purple-guy-peepaw-gif-24730406

[spare talon]

i wasnt even the person declining people for havoc, that was a.a

[plush estuary]

classic a.a

[spare talon]

i was just there lmao

watching a youtube video

[drowsy steppe]

the Darktide micro celeb life

[plush estuary]

@obsidian ore Okay, I left my comment

[drowsy steppe]

@delicate shadow for when you wake up

[ripe quest]

If you end up with full toughness, for the most part yeah. It starts 0.13s in and ends with the charge. Melee hits will still bleedthrough if you get hit with <100% toughness while the buff is active.

[misty nova]

There's a femboy hell

[plush estuary]

guess so

that was back in tf2

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-what-did-you-say-fantastic-4-fant4stic-gif-4316185531780369995

[clever swan]

half erufu best girls

[ripe quest]

Dash has a line that just says "is_dodging = true," so it's prob that.

I used to use that exact thing on a revved Mk IV Chainsword PA to kill Bulwarks, was fun at the time.

[drowsy steppe]

gotcha

[tawny harbor]

also fotf isn't *supposed * to give any buffs to ranged weapons
but get this
while it doesn't improve rate of fire, it *does * buff attack speed
which means you can fire a laspistol much faster

[delicate shadow]

beloved

btw I've realised I can vibe with every romance in the game...except Astarion's

it gets good if you make it to the payoff but like holy shit it sucks until then

[obsidian ore]

Thank you for the comment senpai

[ripe quest]

also fotf isn't supposed to give any buffs to ranged weapons
This isn't true.

while it doesn't improve rate of fire, it does buff attack speed
These are the same thing.

[obsidian ore]

Taught me everything I know

[plush estuary]

yup

shrimple work

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wyd-cat-scratching-cat-scratch-cleaning-screen-gif-15994084353171838166

[heady rapids]

and you get cool bonuses for letting him kill cazador...

[drowsy steppe]

hes really hard to get approval

because he approves of cruelty xd

[random shard]

fotf with a brauto used to be enough to kill a crusher, is that still a thing?

[heady rapids]

no

[plush estuary]

fury doesnt give rending anymore

[drowsy steppe]

he gets a sweet scene in act 2

[plush estuary]

only attack speed

[drowsy steppe]

no

[delicate shadow]

yea ik

[random shard]

lame

[delicate shadow]

and yeah like, his romance is genuinely easiest if you just don't bring him in the party lmao, or play evil I guess

[misty nova]

Tbf

It was broken af

Flamer being a big middle finger for armored hordes

[plush estuary]

me when las pistol killed an entire crusher patrol

[drowsy steppe]

Ive done his ascended romance version

he turns full on yandere if you try to breakup

[hexed igloo]

He's also the hottest

But I'm a simple man I like shart

[random shard]

ive playedthe game too many times im sick of all of them 😭

[obsidian ore]

I left you one as well

[hexed igloo]

I haven't played it yet

I fw white hair and red eyes so astarion but I also like women so shart

[plush estuary]

it's beautiful

congrats on the baby boy

[tawny harbor]

No, there's a difference. You can try it out in the shooting range yourself. With an automatic gun such as recon las, fotf won't make you shoot faster, but a celerity stimm will. But a single shot weapon like the laspistol will shoot faster with fotf. That's the difference between rate of fire and attack speed.

[visual stream]

I swore I shoot faster with bolter when I fury

[sullen forge]

These fucking comments where it’s a huge inside joke that is just completely incoherent to random viewers are the best

[plush estuary]

you want lore?

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/aur-naur-oh-no-cat-sad-cat-cat-cry-gif-25708358

[bitter anvil]

I brought rogue trader

[plush estuary]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1373774165324071046/1384317959425757245/Screenshot_20250616_164509_Discord.jpg?ex=6854a110&is=68534f90&hm=edb92ce6475716b25d55c9efc3d0ff46606ff1aca48de262550a39befbeeaa15&=&format=webp&width=913&height=959

[bitter anvil]

🫃

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-mvp-the-goat-gif-27042870

[bitter anvil]

I don’t know how to use the so called “Toy box” mod

Been playing bl3 with mods customize gun fun last time

[misty nova]

Once you press Control + F10

[bitter anvil]

I know how to open but it’s overwhelming Ui

[misty nova]

Good

Then all you need to know is the kill option

Or the injuries/trauma one

I got the more party slots

8 Psykers next playthrough

[bitter anvil]

I more like looking how to find specific item and weapon stuff

[drowsy steppe]

this is why I embrace

being an evil couple with him

Faerun aint ready 😤

[tawny harbor]

Hmm. It does seem to depend entirely on the type of gun. With the revolver there's no noticeable difference, even though it's single shot like the laspistol. I tried it with the bolter too, and it empties the magazine in about 3 seconds without fotf active, and in about 2 and a half seconds with it.

[bitter anvil]

@misty nova do you know how I can create weapon/item in toy box?

[void bison]

if i ever go back to play more baldurs gate 3 maybe I just freaking STAB astarion. with death, not love