zealot-class

[stray summit]

I think that would be really awesome

[carmine falcon]

i still cant recreate this in normal games

without stim and bolter brittlness

[frosty herald]

This is mk2 right?

[carmine falcon]

yeah

[frosty herald]

Good

[carmine falcon]

uppercut maxxing

[plush estuary]

Only melee damage

Zealot only has 4 range weapon buffs

[stray summit]

no im proposing a what if buff

ik it doesn't, but maybe it could

[plush estuary]

Anoint in blood, dance of death, IJ, fury, and that one that increased ranged backstabs

5 then

[stray summit]

what if bolt pistol could hit those beloved 1h breakpoints

[plush estuary]

There is also a clip somewhere of mk2 relic blade doing 3/4th of a captains HP in havoc

I think it was Khan

Or a.a

[carmine falcon]

i need the secret sauce on how to do it cause i cant recreate it

and every clip ive seen is someone applying 1 billion debuffs with combat stim and then doing the big dmg

[frosty herald]

Dorn told me khan would outdamage me 2mil to 200k in a duo

[plush estuary]

SC, Soften them up, pickaxe pull, focus target (maybe), fury martyrdom, sprint poke

[frosty herald]

With relic blade

[carmine falcon]

i watched few Khan full games and he's a monster

[plush estuary]

Khan is amazing

[carmine falcon]

he uploads on his yt

like picture perfect gameplay

[plush estuary]

I think it's funny when they talk about balance in the other discord

[carmine falcon]

what do they say, ive only seen vids so idk anything about that

[carmine falcon]

they hated him because he said the truth

[plush estuary]

I haven't fully looked at the rules they made

But it seems fun

[frosty herald]

Increase the damage of the flamer itself and reduce the cleave

Not increasing burn damage

[subtle sentinel]

Banned from what?

[carmine falcon]

i think reginald streamed something where they did "Ethical" runs and bro was running heavy chainsword and autogun in havoc 40 lmao

[frosty herald]

Custom ruleset

[carmine falcon]

they got wiped as expected

[plush estuary]

Havoc rule set they have made

For the "pros"

[subtle sentinel]

oOoOO so awesome

[frosty herald]

Dick measuring contest🤫

[carmine falcon]

le pros making challenges for them to make havoc challenging again is just a proof that u can only push diff so much in a PVE game

[plush estuary]

Combine there, so no contest

[frosty herald]

One of the few people with keystoneless vet cause the keystones arent that good

[subtle sentinel]

If they are the only people who play with those rules, they are the best at it

[carmine falcon]

DUH?

[subtle sentinel]

That's why they do it

[frosty herald]

Unless your running double barrel you only need weapon specialist

[visual stream]

Some weapons really benefit from FT but yeah

[subtle sentinel]

Doubling my barrels rn

[visual stream]

Keystoneless being relatively viable is funny

[frosty herald]

Combine uses it and dorn says hes insanely good

[plush estuary]

Yes he is

[visual stream]

Just pick up the forty different flat damage bonuses that vet has instead

[carmine falcon]

i watched Combine runs too and yeah

[visual stream]

That require no activation

[frosty herald]

The vet tree is so ass

[visual stream]

At least it has plenty of build diversity

[carmine falcon]

i swear some people who play this game make me feel like i never touched it

[visual stream]

Enough at least

[carmine falcon]

they're way too good

[plush estuary]

I think it was a grey dueling sword with Dbarrel and it outdamages my ogryn in our havoc run

Granted I was playing safe since it was our 1st time playing together

Coms were another thing I noticed with that group

Was interesting how they used coms, was similar to when I played comp OW

[frosty herald]

Almost perfect communication

[plush estuary]

They had an igl then others will say "lit" when barrel "pushing" when burster

[carmine falcon]

there's another one

Jsat

also an insane player

[plush estuary]

Just was igl

Jsat

Hi apple

[carmine falcon]

i caught a rare Jsat twtich stream and he was doing exactly what you said

igl

[daring kernel]

I think they both have like 10k hours in vt2, both are extremely high level modded players

[plush estuary]

Combine is round 7k

Jsat around 6

[solar gorge]

ow comp comms be like : sigma 1 sigma 1 sigma 1, mei 1 mei 1 mei 1 mei 1 mei 1

[plush estuary]

Iirc

[plush estuary]

Depends where you look

[solar gorge]

genji 1 genji 1 genji 1 no reflect genji 1

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

[daring kernel]

ye sounds right, they're very easy to coordinate with

[plush estuary]

No one called no reflect genji

Was fun

I was going to ask to join again sometime

[daring kernel]

probs have more fun with them than with most pubs lol

[plush estuary]

I really enjoy pubs

I take the lowest levels

[carmine falcon]

Vamp is also very cracked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF-oW2-HcmM&t=1114s

[daring kernel]

I just look for fun builds and then get disappointed when it takes half an hour for one match that someone insta-leaves

good times

[solar gorge]

random pubs are dt's golden experience

you never know what you're gonna get

[plush estuary]

I'll always play if I'm on apple. But yeah, pubs are sad

[carmine falcon]

pubs are 90% of my games
at most i get a friend or two

[plush estuary]

But there are so many funny moments

Had a level 60 ogryn tell me Dbarrel can't deal with carapace so I should switch off

And I was running the same build I ran with you apple

Psword dbarrel

[carmine falcon]

auric pubs are peak

[plush estuary]

I did 2x his damage

[solar gorge]

i pubbed h40 and it was glorious

[plush estuary]

"I have 40 hours using Dbarrel, it can't deal with carapace"

[carmine falcon]

the games are either 4 cracked dudes steamrolling or me trying to carry at least two people when im not exactly cracked

[plush estuary]

Bro I'm not shooting crushers like you with the rumbler

[solar gorge]

i wish it would always match me with the bad players

[daring kernel]

havoc ogryn ego is huge, had 2 making fun of me for playing exe shotty and outdamaged them both combined lol

[plush estuary]

Lmao

"you guys are going to fast"

[frosty herald]

I had a psyker game

[plush estuary]

I had to rush the ritual he started with his rumbler

[frosty herald]

I have voice turned off

[plush estuary]

And he died to 1 plague ogryn

I was still in the same room

[daring kernel]

I love when someone spends half the game dying and complaining that everyone else is moving

[plush estuary]

So funny

[frosty herald]

So this lvl 30 zealot was probably babyraging after he needed to be rescued

Cause the mic prompt was onscreen for like 20 seconds lmao

And the he left

[plush estuary]

I fully understand why Jsat disconnect from this community

People don't like being told they are wrong or bad

And when you are better then then and actually know how the games works

They don't listen

[frosty herald]

Mind you i was playing on psyker

And 2 zealots downed before me

[carmine falcon]

too much scoreboard and loadout eliteism in a game with so much skill expression

[heady rapids]

reminded me about that reddit post with advices for the game

one of them being to make your dodge and jump separate buttons

[plush estuary]

I'm not the best player but I know most of the basics and advanced things, I don't like getting the game explained to me by someone level 60 and doesn't even know what a special rush is

[daring kernel]

The ego death one experiences by playing onslaughtplus the first time with a metacomp and losing several nights in a row does tremendous effort to making you open minded lol

I doubt most people even understand trigger management, which is all havoc is right now lol

[plush estuary]

Nope

Clueless

They don't even listen when I say "back"

[daring kernel]

imagine if we had horde timers, no group would make it through the start of any level lol

[frosty herald]

Legit the only time i die in a match is if i play in a very high difficulty mission or the entire team is dead in auric

[plush estuary]

For close spawn

After they saw me solo clutch for 10 minutes

[carmine falcon]

what's trigger management
managing boss triggers?

the game doesnt explain it

[frosty herald]

Yeah

[carmine falcon]

so i cant blame people

but i can blame people who refuse to learn

[frosty herald]

If you rush through havoc bosses start spawning

[plush estuary]

I mean fair but it's not like there is 0 resources to find them

Solo mod, online, Jsat streams

[frosty herald]

This discord

[ripe quest]

Real ones know that more bosses = more fun so therefore you speedrun to spawn bosses but never kill them

[plush estuary]

True

[frosty herald]

Extremely rare exhilous

[ripe quest]

Helldivers has consumed my time

[frosty herald]

Hows the helldivers spreadsheets going

[carmine falcon]

you're so real for this

[daring kernel]

maybe it's just select communities but darktide is pretty slim on actual mechanical texts compared to vermintide

[heady rapids]

vermintide has a whole ass book now

[plush estuary]

I also see lack of a strong content creator

[daring kernel]

pretty much whenever someone starts out with onslaught I recommend they read through a couple starter documents lol

[heady rapids]

explaining mechanics

oh you mean data

[frosty herald]

It should be reginald

[plush estuary]

Maybe

But VT had so many amazing players with all the data

[daring kernel]

vermintide has onslaught university too lol like you can learn everything yearly

[plush estuary]

DT doesn't have that

[frosty herald]

But people would rather listen to mr e or tanner

[solar gorge]

vt is much older

and harder

[plush estuary]

Ur mom

[heady rapids]

royale was making a guide for dt then dipped

[plush estuary]

Sorry

[heady rapids]

we only have kuli rn

[ripe quest]

Stellar, had to move partially to excel though as enemy stats crashed google sheets lol. Arrowhead obliterated normal datamining so I'm now the only stat dataminer for the time being.

[plush estuary]

The final hope

[daring kernel]

darktide doesn't have as good of modded resources, like I don't think anyone has a mod for trigger locations

[frosty herald]

Datamining is dead?

[plush estuary]

I can ask, but you are probably right

[solar gorge]

they make it harder every patch

[daring kernel]

and hold spots kinda don't matter in darktide either, so like who would want a guide about that lol

[carmine falcon]

i think tanner quit and Mr E is not much of a "teacher" he's like fast food content

[plush estuary]

Hold spots? You mean kite routes?

Lmao

[ripe quest]

Kinda. Nothing is labelled internally, so stuff that looks for strings to catalogue stuff can't work anymore. My methods are completely absent of strings anyways so it didn't affect me.

[plush estuary]

Mobility in DT makes the game at joke at times

[frosty herald]

Theyre some of the biggest

[carmine falcon]

reginald tutorials are the closest to actual infromative content

[heady rapids]

mister e is pretty

wrong

on things

consistently

[plush estuary]

Indeed

[daring kernel]

kite routing would be a very fun guide to make, blocking doesnt work in darktide anyway so if the game ever does get difficult hold spots are useless

[near jacinth]

Is it OK to ask for build-tips? 🙂

[plush estuary]

Go for it

[frosty herald]

Ok ok hold on now

[plush estuary]

Or check out my guide

In the pins

[frosty herald]

Blocking is usefull in darktide

1v1 versus bosses

[plush estuary]

Only really on psyker is blocking worth it

[solar gorge]

blocking is shit in dt compared to vt

[plush estuary]

Maybe block once per fight on other classes

[frosty herald]

Psyker can actualy block without risk of getting guardbroken

[near jacinth]

Will check now!
Been following a bujild from Gameslantern.. haha

[daring kernel]

you can't block crushers, plogryns and BoN, you're negative against DH and Spawn, and ragers will keep swinging at you

[plush estuary]

Enemies attack too fast on DT

[daring kernel]

so you can't really hold a position still like a footknight with shield

[plush estuary]

And stam is different compared to VT

[daring kernel]

and forget holding with encroaching garden final tol lol

[ripe quest]

I am kinda surprised that I haven't seen a single resource giving literally all possible information on weapons.

[frosty herald]

Doesnt vt2 also have 0 bleedthrough damage when an attack guardbreaks you?

[plush estuary]

People hold onto their own opinions

And don't want to be wrong

[real stirrup]

Wdym by mechanical

[daring kernel]

not on bosses, if they hit you with an overhead you take damage

[plush estuary]

Do you know vermintide?

[carmine falcon]

me when im trying to kite with a bolter and a two hander (im fucked)

[real stirrup]

I’ve heard of it

[plush estuary]

Sorry, didn't mean to invade, go for it apple

I thought you responded to me

[near jacinth]

if i send u the guide im following, would u mind saying "eugh" or "go for it" ? 🙂

[plush estuary]

DM it and I can check it over

[daring kernel]

vt2 has guides on slot system, pacing management, trigger management, aggro management, proper teamplay/positioning, event guides, etc.

darktide does not have most of these things and is certainly not as specific, mostly just generalized/code digging

[carmine falcon]

vt2 is also much older

[heady rapids]

closest we have to that are jsat vids

[near jacinth]

Thenk yuu!

[real stirrup]

Vermin tide was still Warhammer universe right?

[frosty herald]

vermintide is old world

[reef plaza]

Warhammer fantasy yes

Age of Sigmar

[ripe quest]

Real.

[solar gorge]

not the same warhammer universe but still warhammer

[heady rapids]

no

its not age of sigmar

its fb

[frosty herald]

what if i ignore allat and just use block effeciency extra stamina bret longsword

[reef plaza]

Idk I’m not a big fantasy nerd I just now sigmar but sigmar’n it

[daring kernel]

works pretty good in onslaught tbh lol

[reef plaza]

I like dwarves and rats

[frosty herald]

age of sigmar is the reincarnated world from warhammer fantasy

[reef plaza]

Ohhhhh

Ok

Isn’t that the one with the storm wardens?

[frosty herald]

yes

[reef plaza]

Didn’t like that one

[frosty herald]

stormcast eternals

[solar gorge]

ground marines

[frosty herald]

aka age of sigmar space marines

[solar gorge]

yes I know it's overdone but they're still ground marines

they'll always be

[reef plaza]

The sigmarines

[real stirrup]

So age of sigmar is a offshoot

[solar gorge]

no

[frosty herald]

no

[ripe quest]

Slots? Pacing breakpoints? Bro I'm an Unchained main I can't read I'm too busy w + m1 maxxing

[plush estuary]

Real

Knife gameplay

PA light light

Pa light light

[reef plaza]

Ironbreaker

[plush estuary]

PA light light

[frosty herald]

age of sigmar is its own thing

[solar gorge]

As an IB main i'm too busy eating glue

[plush estuary]

Real

[real stirrup]

Its own universe entirely

[plush estuary]

All of them eat glue

[heady rapids]

aos is the direct sequel

[reef plaza]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH

[heady rapids]

pretty much

they killed fb over licensing problems

[solar gorge]

i eat glue while never dying

[frosty herald]

warhammer fantasy used to be the prequel to 40k but that was made non canon

(even though the war in heaven happened and the slaan are a direct product of that in old world and age of sigmar)

[solar gorge]

nah, it was supposed to be a planet in the eye of terror

[reef plaza]

I like to think that tzeentch is the same tzeentch in both universe

But only Tzeentch

[frosty herald]

your completely correct

[real stirrup]

Bro

[frosty herald]

all of the chaos gods are the same

[real stirrup]

So they made a prequel universe and then retconned it

[frosty herald]

almost all demons from old world were carried over to 40k

[frosty herald]

essentially

[reef plaza]

Nah

Because then great horned rat would be in 40k

[real stirrup]

Jesusss

[heady rapids]

i mean not really

old world ends in the year of like

2600?

something

[reef plaza]

I’m saying I like to think Tzeentch

Is the same Tzeentch

Like he’s fucking around with both universes

[solar gorge]

maybe i'll re-install vt2 and try the necromancer carreer but ig there's not much new shit to do except modded diffs and the new maps

[frosty herald]

now age of sigmar exists as its own thing solely because games workshop decided to kill off old world because its models werent selling well

[solar gorge]

the game itself was also ass allegedly

[reef plaza]

Didn’t age of Sigmar sell even worse lol?

[solar gorge]

if you care about tt

[frosty herald]

no clue

[solar gorge]

it's much better

wfb literally did not sell

[reef plaza]

Yeah

The age old saying

“The first 40k combat patrol outsold all of fantasy”

[solar gorge]

too bad cuz the lore and the verse is pure kino

but the tt game sucked ass

[real stirrup]

So what was rogue trader

[solar gorge]

basically the first edition of 40k

not really but you get it

[heady rapids]

rogue trader the game or rogue trader the big thing

[real stirrup]

So early early 40k

[heady rapids]

og space marines were drinking fucking eldars and killing gangers

or some shit

[reef plaza]

Ah old 40k is a funny fucking thing

[signal spoke]

No more leaks

[reef plaza]

Don’t forget the half eldar librarian

[signal spoke]

HD2 leak server about to shut down very tragic smh

[solar gorge]

it's a shithole so not a bad thing

[stray summit]

the scythe on its own is worth the price point for necromancer

[hard nexus]

well yeah that’s part of it lmfao

[hard nexus]

checks out

[jagged cradle]

I forgot relic blade existed

[carmine falcon]

then weapon is not busted!!!

see fatshark i just mathmatically proved that its not

stay away from my boy

[signal spoke]

Always has been but it has become more shitty

[solar gorge]

that's what happens when u become the defacto alternative for every shitter that got banned from the main server

[elfin thorn]

you used boltgun to rizz it up

im hitting you with a nuh-uh

https://tenor.com/view/saul-your-honor-my-client-nuh-uh-gif-11334700374005151603

i am tempted to get some brittle stacks tho 😏

[signal spoke]

Wait wrong video shit

[median steeple]

I love the grab animations

The animation I don't really like is the Mori but at least he speaks while doing it

[signal spoke]

The fact they even modelled the corpse is insane

[solar gorge]

spingtap

[signal spoke]

Tapping on that spring

[stray summit]

its like a cornerstone of zealotry now

[solar gorge]

where were you deathblow hs all this time

It feels so wrong to discover your beauty after 1.3k hours

[blissful frigate]

@sullen forge

[slate void]

I have no idea how to build Zealot because every guide is either Stealth Thammer or Dueling Sword

[median steeple]

Holy frown

[sullen forge]

Pissed off DH and BON spawn next to me

I had to say it

LMAO

[blissful frigate]

Me and my mate were stuck in that corner with 5 specials and the nurgle+host cornering us, stand and die protocol b

[solar gorge]

1 more match to get the 500 aquilas

[carmine falcon]

check pinned guide here then

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

almost there

[carmine falcon]

i havent evne started the event

it might be over for me

[violet hornet]

You still have like 12 days

[carmine falcon]

oh right

[solar gorge]

yeah it's p lax

but i have a 1 week lan party with my friends next week

i won't be able to play dt

[median steeple]

Made it halfway through the event and just rot inside seeing the 6 thousand more I need

[carmine falcon]

im gonna walk a friend through leveling up either today or tomorrow

they got the game today

[frosty herald]

6-7 missions

[solar gorge]

depends on your luck really

[violet hornet]

Even if you only get the three totems each match and nothing else that's 16 games

[solar gorge]

with how many totems you get

[modern lintel]

always 3

[solar gorge]

I think i'm at my 8th match and i'm missing 1.5k

[carmine falcon]

tbh i want to play for the mini havoc experience more than the aquilla
wtf am i gonna even do with 500? sets are 2900

[solar gorge]

yeah but I have 700 leftovers

[misty nova]

The Build™

[solar gorge]

you know, cuz you can't buy a specific set amount of aquilas

cool system

so I got these very cool leftovers

very cool

[carmine falcon]

i think i have leftovers too

very cool system indeed

totally not predetory

[slate void]

Now you don't have to buy as many aquilas for your next purchase

[solar gorge]

Ig

i'll be able to buy the prenium arbites set when it comes out wowzer

[slate void]

(This is the hook)

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-reddit-gold-kind-stranger-slot-machine-gif-9286172767555917428

might be months before I spend those

since fs is allergic to releasing decent drip

[carmine falcon]

the stuff they have rn is cool

but 2 expensive

[modern lintel]

wonder if theyll have the arbites for sale via aquilas or actual dollars

[slate void]

Having that leftover money has been shown to increase rates of buying more
If you have the leftovers, people are more tempted to buy again because they're closer to the total price

[carmine falcon]

also why does the enforcer set on zealot look so ass the head is too big and the chest piece is too small

[slate void]

It's steam store DLC so it'll most likely be dollars

[median steeple]

It's gonna be 12 whatever currency you have

Unless they're only regional pricing for the US and EU.....

[carmine falcon]

we will be getting arbites 🔥

[modern lintel]

im wondering how cosmetic are gonna work now with them aswell are we just gonna start getting cadian and krieg arbites or

[carmine falcon]

probably just sets designed specifically for them

[modern lintel]

hesjust going to get left in the corner for half a year w no cosmetics my guess

[misty nova]

Like in vt2

[median steeple]

All we know is that their only cosmetics rn are penance ones

[solar gorge]

can't wait to check out the commissary with the arbites to take a gander at all the recolours

🔥

[median steeple]

Unironically tho

Need something to spend dockets

[modern lintel]

we get red and we got uh kinda greyish blu pick ur poison

[solar gorge]

I'm being ironic because I'm p sure he won't have any

[median steeple]

Honestly yeah

[solar gorge]

I'm betting on nothing

[median steeple]

Expectation is in Tartarus so I can never be disappointed

[carmine falcon]

he's too cool for dorkshite's doodoo cosmetics anyway

[stone fern]

the commissary will 100% have gigaslop for you

dont worry

[slate void]

I hope they have a silver recolor for Robocop

[carmine falcon]

i had too much money and i spent it on buying all zealot cosmetics even tho they all look ass in comissary

[stone fern]

pffff

[carmine falcon]

then i realized hey i wanna play more ogryn and now i dont have enough money to mastery maxx

[stone fern]

i have everything for every class

[solar gorge]

No it will have nothing

FS forgot the commissary existed

[stone fern]

1mil dockets bet?

[slate void]

Come on Fatshark Paul Verhouven was Dutch give us Robocop Arbites

[hearty nebula]

https://imgur.com/a/HegM7dM

[solar gorge]

the clock in my grandma's house

[stone fern]

see what you dont know is ass soon as they add the new char the comissary UI will 100% cause a CTD

AND then theyll remember to add it

[solar gorge]

now that's a reasonable thing to expect for the comissary

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-danish-gif-4671833751712398379

[modern lintel]

[median steeple]

Goes hard

[frosty herald]

Type shit

[flint sable]

I feel I carried a little

[clever swan]

coincidentally my greatest nightmare is being a secondary character in some guy's "i feel like i carried" scoreboard image

good thing that would never happen

[blissful frigate]

I mean you just gotta play with a psyker that kills everything for you

unless you're expectation would be getting 20 downs ontop of losing total damage by 4x

[subtle sentinel]

Darktide flexers putting a gigantic spreadsheet in front of you with every single stat they ever did in the game and expect you to read it all

[modern lintel]

just play ogryn

[sullen forge]

More just play with an Ogryn in general or Psyker

they make you feel incredibly useless lmao

[clever swan]

they are the strongest for sure

[blissful frigate]

Yeah ogryn teammates as zealot in pubs really make you feel small

You get to burst down a few melee elites and bosses and thats it lol

[flint sable]

Ogryn are better than they used to be I conside that but Zealot can still dish out a lot of the damage

[sullen forge]

Similar feeling with certain builds on Psyker when you're veteran

you're barely ever getting elite or special picks and you just feel like "Why am I even here"

[median steeple]

I love using bolt pistol on vet and getting out damaged by a megaton since we have an ogryn on the team

[clever swan]

the most recent scoreboard i have where i wasnt first damage was a damnable ogryn

[flint sable]

Yea vet is in a weird spot currently as ogryn toke the range guy specialist title

[median steeple]

Vet and zealot are bit behind on things

[sullen forge]

bit?

[median steeple]

Still good just not as good

[sullen forge]

I'd say they are massively at this point

Old breed getting massively power crept

[median steeple]

You know what I mean you damnable fish

[plush estuary]

Guys let me post my 700k damage auric damn scoreboard (I carried level 5s)

[sullen forge]

Ogryn is just the worst of them

[subtle sentinel]

Fish? Where?

[sullen forge]

Worst as in the biggest culprit of "You will not play the game"

[clever swan]

i wish the scoreboard mods tracked how long your teammtes were in the game

if they only joined halfway through then you cant really use their score as a determiner of anything

[plush estuary]

Then how are people supposed to port their carries?

[subtle sentinel]

I wish the scoreboard just gave you the kills, downs, deaths

[plush estuary]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[subtle sentinel]

That's it

[plush estuary]

It can

[clever swan]

there's a vermintide scoreboard mod

[frosty herald]

Powerdi is better imo

[plush estuary]

But people want damage numbers

To show off their carry

[clever swan]

it is but i think it lags. i dont think it has "time ingame" anyway

[plush estuary]

Psyker players still post 2 mil scoreboards in havoc

(they used purg Shriek in a purple moebian havoc)

With the least amount of specials and elites killed

It's very funny how entertained people are with big number

[frosty herald]

it would be better to show usefullness

[vast basin]

I don't get lag with powerdi. It also tracks everyone who was in the mission, not just everyone at the end of the mission

[frosty herald]

how many times you got hit etc

[plush estuary]

I have a mod that shows how much toughess you regned throughout the mission

[clever swan]

weakspot rate is a pretty good one to look at

weakspot rate and damage taken (along with some consideration for your overall damage done)

[solar gorge]

i don't need the scorboard to know how i'm doing, the characters won't shut up about it

[clever swan]

i love the "you did good!" voice lines

[plush estuary]

The best stat overall I think is specials killed

[blissful frigate]

topscore

[north sedge]

i need scoreboard to know how i'm doing (emotionally)

[plush estuary]

Specials are what end runs 90% of the time

[plush estuary]

(crippling depression) you failed the run

F

[solar gorge]

you need scoreboard to let ppl in discord know how you're doing

[clever swan]

true, though you gotta consider that some builds arent going to kill quite as many specials* as others

[frosty herald]

killstreak lines my beloved

[solar gorge]

loved them since vt

[blissful frigate]

poggers bridge

[plush estuary]

Elf?

Elf!?!!!

[solar gorge]

DWARF HUNTING

[silver granite]

Ok fuck the relic sword is so good

I can swing brainlessly and watch shit die

[clever swan]

this mod is probably super useful (i suggested it in the modding discord and then it got made in direct reply to my suggestion): https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/518?tab=description

[silver granite]

And just switch it on before major hordes and shit

Can we use a macro for push button

[blissful frigate]

There's no real restrictions for stuff like that

[clever swan]

there's no real way to get caught for now except by being reported and no one will report you for such a thing

[plush estuary]

I will 😔

[blissful frigate]

get this guy banned

[clever swan]

i dont know but i doubt that a simple right click then left click macro is on their list of macros to ban anyway

[silver granite]

I mean I panic press buttons on my mouse

[solar gorge]

another "i swear it's not cheating vro" mod added to the list

[clever swan]

:)

[solar gorge]

dt modding is so ass sometimes

[clever swan]

there's a mod that calculates the amount of time until a boss dies based on the DPS

[solar gorge]

deluded ppl everywhere

[clever swan]

kinda interesting but weird

[silver granite]

Eh

[clever swan]

i wouldnt say it's not cheating

i would just say that it doesnt really matter

[silver granite]

I believe the game lacks QoL features

[blissful frigate]

There's a multibind mod that lets you have a second input on everything, can just bind block and primary attack to the same key on the second line so you keep your normal block and attack keys

[clever swan]

i got into a slight disagreement with someone here. they told me that "mods are not cheating because they do not increase damage"

[blissful frigate]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/337

[silver granite]

Like damage display numbers and a hud that's not 10 kms apart

[clever swan]

but i tried to explain to him that actually the mods almost certainly increase your damage by at least ONE point

by giving you additional information

and it's directly caused by the mods

not in some sort of hackery way but just from knowing things

[solar gorge]

mod users when the mod auto completes the phage tree puzzle (it's not cheating just qol)

[silver granite]

Breh

[clever swan]

the phage tree puzzle is glorpshit :)

[silver granite]

Yes

The rolling steel puzzle is frustrating too

[clever swan]

not only the puzzle itself but also the general area around

[silver granite]

But I play vanilla

No mods at all

[clever swan]

the rolling steel puzzle got changed to be barely a problem didnt it?

[plush estuary]

Yes

[solar gorge]

yep

[silver granite]

I remember the original one where the ball was so difficult to not hit the walls

[solar gorge]

it's a shadow of it's former self

[silver granite]

I haven't played Darktide in 5 months

[clever swan]

i didnt think it was difficult it was just like "okay, im just sitting here now for like 50 seconds"

[silver granite]

Because my old gaming laptop died

Took me 5 months to save up

For a new one

[silver granite]

It was frustrating

@clever swan I saw a tax axe havoc 40 build on youtube

Some guy called Reginald

He was in the moebian 21st modifier

[clever swan]

must take a long time

but there's probably a build that can make it work

[silver granite]

Hmm

How's Relic Blade + Bolt pistol + knives + FotF

[plush estuary]

Probably zealots best setup bar not having flamer (it's not needed but it's broken strong in the right situations)

[north sedge]

wdym flamer is bad and crusher is bad too

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[plush estuary]

This is so true

Remember that guy said crusher only works since you are goated

Crusher is just a worse Thammer

Shrimple as

[silver granite]

What is crusher

[north sedge]

obviously they are used exactly the same

[frosty herald]

if arbites doesnt get crusher i swear

[plush estuary]

Zealots best designed melee weapon

Has weapon combos, has weaknesses, has stagger, has damage, a cool special, and can work with any build

[hollow meteor]

For a series about having a lot of hammers, people sure are insisting there is only one (war)

[plush estuary]

Best weapon

[frosty herald]

push attack doing nasty damage but being hard to hit

[plush estuary]

Locking finesse to PA is a good idea

And making it not an overhead

[frosty herald]

if arbites doesnt get crusher ill just dick around with shield shotpistol

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-black-ops-6-takedown-riot-shield-campaign-gif-4671697549341023623

[median steeple]

they should only get the sauls

[frosty herald]

psycho explode

[void bison]

this galactic war would have never happened if I was super president

[median steeple]

ngl I would like them to get shock mauls

but that thing needs a buff cause holy shit

[sullen forge]

they are

they have access to all human arsenal weapons

[frosty herald]

arbites are 100% getting all of the blunt weapons except thunder hammer

[median steeple]

see now did someone reliable say this or are we just saying shit to say shit

[frosty herald]

speculation

[stone fern]

nah i see the logic behind yams post

[median steeple]

Cause if arbites gets DS and heavy sword I will be devastated

[clever swan]

it wouldnt really make sense if they didnt share the universal weapons

[stone fern]

they will

[frosty herald]

but why?

[median steeple]

Shut up now before you manifest it

[frosty herald]

arbites dont use bladed weapons

[stone fern]

because ds4 is perfectly balanced :3

[frosty herald]

they exclusively use blunt ones for riot control

[stone fern]

and the new class should have access to it :3

[median steeple]

Arbites getting crusher, and sauls would make sense

[clever swan]

this is why they should make a real dueling sword where it isnt bladed

[stone fern]

real answer is money if people are paying for the class they want them to feel like they got their monies worth

prolly all melees except peesword, force swords, thammers and evis

[median steeple]

if getting new weapons and a new class is not worth 12 bucks idk what is anymore

I would hate for it to get DS

it's so boring and bland

on top of it being good

[stone fern]

just dont use it

[median steeple]

I don't I just hate it exists

[frosty herald]

arbites wont get dueling sword

[stone fern]

wanna bet?

[frosty herald]

like 100% sure of it

[stone fern]

100k dockets

loser has to spend it on a weapon of the winners choosing

[frosty herald]

my cat has just discovered her own shadow

[stone fern]

its ugly shadow

[green yacht]

duelling sword crutchlords deserve nothing

[clever swan]

guess it depends on how unwilling arbites are to use bladed weapons or how little they've done so in lore

[frosty herald]

the arbites loadout doesnt include swords or knives at all

[stone fern]

they not on the job arbities

theyre on special loan to the ordo whateverus

[median steeple]

closest bladed weapon they do use is a flail

[frosty herald]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Arbites_Armoury

[stone fern]

theyll get ds4 and well suffer for a few weeks until they stop using it

[sullen forge]

it was literally in the announcement come Juner 23rd giving a run down on the class saying they will have access to the Human Arsenal weapons that are all class

aka shared by all 3 classes

aka yes

Shaul

[median steeple]

where?

cause I can't find it in the forum post

[frosty herald]

news bulletin'

[median steeple]

No mf

I'm looking AT the post

[frosty herald]

actualy i mightve gaslit psycho

[median steeple]

I can't find anything talking about them getting the all class weapons

[north sedge]

arbites only gets ds unfortunately

even for ranged

[frosty herald]

we should ask kitefin

or just wait for the arbites weapon blog

[cunning saffron]

How do the masteries work?

[median steeple]

you use the weapon and it levels up, you spend the points you get for leveling on upgrading perks

[frosty herald]

you can also sacrifice weapons for weapon family XP

[blissful frigate]

Ds + shield*

[median steeple]

I am it's just people making claims about something that hasn't been revealed, anyway I found it. Kitefin said they would get SOME of the all class weapons

[nocturne cobalt]

Is it still good to run 2x toughness and 1x stamina for curios?

[frosty herald]

hopefully that some is crusher

[analog ember]

Works

Personally don’t run stamina though

[nocturne cobalt]

Eh, I can change it for health. I prefer that more

:>

Just reading the compendia

[median steeple]

people swear by stam but I use 2x toughness 1xhp unless im using martyr

[clever swan]

is buyign the imperial edition upgrade worth it for the aquilas alone?

[frosty herald]

you get aquillers weapon skins and a cosmetic set for each class

[clever swan]

does that mean no

[frosty herald]

its your choice

[north sedge]

you get the best thammer skin

[stone fern]

only on discount

[clever swan]

ye

[north sedge]

weirdly the rest of the skins are doody, unless im forgetting some other exception

[stone fern]

the crusher skin is very nice

thats about it

[north sedge]

there shouldn't be one unless it was added later?

[clever swan]

$8.58 for 2500 aquilas (via imperial edition)
where 2500 aquilas is normally at least 12 dollars or so

definitely worth buying

[north sedge]

oh well yea

[subtle sentinel]

Is that excluding the cosmetics or smth?

Or the games own price?

[clever swan]

that's for the entire imperial edition, which includes cosmetics

it's worth it for the aquilas alone and even moreso worth it for all the other stuff

though that's only the price if you already have the game

presumably it's also worth it even if you buy it outright

[median steeple]

I do wonder when the arbites blogs will come out since they said several will come out between the reveal (last thursday) and June 22nd, (including this week) there's 5 weeks till arbites comes out so idk

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-animated-sitcom-peter-peter-griffin-funny-gif-17656245

hopefully theyll work with gameslantern again to show us the arbites tree

and update it in realtime

[sullen forge]

Honestly hoping its followed with weapon buffs as well cause if not it'll be very easy to get shoe horned into certain weapons on Arbitrator

[modern lintel]

everyones going to be mainly wanting to play the class specific weapons anyway

[north sedge]

true can't wait for the ds buff

[plush estuary]

Money well spent

[sullen forge]

got me fucked up if you think I want DS buffed out of all weapons

hate that thing

[plush estuary]

Shock Maul civi time

[frosty herald]

playtesters said that the weapons are genuinely fun to use

the new weapons

[median steeple]

the shield and melee is what I'm exicted for

also new shotgun

[frosty herald]

shield shotpistol excites me

the first time we have a defensive ranged option so im wondering how fatshark will handle it

cause will it be a melee or ranged option

[modern lintel]

did you buy the rat backpack

[plush estuary]

no

I only used the free money

from event

and it was enough for SaP

[modern lintel]

self proclaimed rat dealer smh

[placid leaf]

what ya guys opinion about crusher?

[frosty herald]

good weapon

[modern lintel]

one of the better

[placid leaf]

also pretty satisfying to use

[mystic scarab]

Someone sell me zealot.

[placid leaf]

cuz from my 10lvls of mastery with it, it fills like a really good garbage lawnmower

https://tenor.com/view/lawnmower-mowing-the-lawn-manual-walk-behind-reel-mower-mow-grass-carling-black-label-beer-commercial-gif-9573908485210308078

[blissful frigate]

Good but the color is 50/50

if only there was some way to change the color freely

500 aquilla reward: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240196923644968960/1377008783611662637/Mikaeli_Hits_Metal_17_Times_Original.mp4?ex=683766dd&is=6836155d&hm=8e9334ab66ce2e9dcf13175a8b3ade3d44ad847126fe12336646f36eb212cf2b&

[mystic scarab]

🥀

[carmine falcon]

straight up bullying

[mystic scarab]

Okay. Everyone show me your zealot fashion

I swear if i see 1 bald zealot monk i will cry

[mystic scarab]

...

Is relic blade like its best melee?

[carmine falcon]

one of the best

[mystic scarab]

Whats the other?

[carmine falcon]

devil's claw mark 1

[mystic scarab]

Is that the bowie knife kind of melee?

[carmine falcon]

im just fkn with you

[mystic scarab]

🤌

[carmine falcon]

other good weapons would be crusher, knife, ds4, chain axe 4, thunder hammer

(i like those)

rashad combat axe

[mystic scarab]

What are the pros and cons of both relic and the thunder hammer

[signal spoke]

Bald zealot best zealot lore accurate

[carmine falcon]

relic not much besides bad dodges
hammer is slow into hordes but nukes elites

[frosty herald]

you dont like the zealot

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01JNTSHDH983SR2SCGYTWXBMYA/4x.avif

[mystic scarab]

Yeah well i made my female one look like the guy from tekken with the 2 tuffs of hair on the side

I named her beninging. If anyone knows that meme

[frosty herald]

in the benginging

[mystic scarab]

Not monk enough

[mystic scarab]

[frosty herald]

sefoni fucks as much with the crew like idira does

[plush estuary]

guh?

[heady rapids]

darjtdie

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZShoJYTSA/

[placid leaf]

i have 3 depending on the buld in order
Ninja(dagger + DB shotgun), Ooga Booga(Crusher + Bolter) and Big Bonk(thunder hammer + revolver)

[plush estuary]

teammates went the wrong way after excise vault mid event

so cute

[mystic scarab]

I kind of want that chest amor that booga has but im sure it costs money

[placid leaf]

thats the whole set

[mystic scarab]

Dang

[vast basin]

there is another set which they released that looks almost the exact same aswell

[heady rapids]

@frosty herald can you revert the paralysis nerf? was gonna run the para horn tonight

thanks

[drowsy furnace]

It's the matte gray one right?

[nocturne cobalt]

Which duelling sword works well with blazing piety?

[vast basin]

ye

[drowsy furnace]

Another fatshark banger

[subtle sentinel]

Holy shit it is the box art zealot

[vast basin]

lol I just grabbed the picture from the database

[sterile stone]

@sterile basalt What's the box art Zealot's name?

Too lazy to log in to check the armor piece

[subtle sentinel]

Oh box art zealot as in the face

She does have a name, but gives no results

[sterile stone]

All the box art characters have a name

The armor we get from the penance system tells you

Bath said canonically there's a team of 7 or 8. so who tf knows who the other guys are apart of the team.

I don't think psyker is canonically apart of the main team tho.

[placid leaf]

we already know a next one

the arbiter

maybe a mechanicus acolyte too

[sterile stone]

We'd still need to flesh out the other few spots then

[placid leaf]

maybe a ministorum dude as a pure support

[plush estuary]

omg 1 mil damage in an auric, did I carry or not, Find out next time on Dragon ball Z

https://tenor.com/view/next-later-to-be-continued-gif-12519719289771356987

chaxe 4

is so fun

[warm cliff]

A skitarii is actually a likely candidate for a character

In-lore they have their own personalities and can use a bunch of weapons

[molten birch]

can the middle skill be channeled while moving?

it sounds like a nice party "oh shit button", thinkin of trying to do a build for it, but im still quite new

[plush estuary]

yes and vaulting

its okay, but its better to kill the enemies then stagger them

making fury the better tool

[molten birch]

fair enough. ive only played ogryn and zealot so far, im prolly just bad but ive been gettin slapped around in melee

[plush estuary]

The backrooms, Darktide. REAL

scary

[misty nova]

In the prologue, her bot is named Jileide iirc

But then you have the named armor on the Hestia's penances

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/trepang2-horizon-corporation-black-ops-him-trepang-gif-8673013840030506331

[plush estuary]

its so easy to get outside the maps

some of the untextured rooms look goofy

[misty nova]

Casually enters spawn room

[plush estuary]

HOLY SHIT

I FOUND IT

THE REAL MIDDLE

this is someone's build in my game rn

not lying

[frosty herald]

your joking.

[misty nova]

But hold on a second

[plush estuary]

no

[misty nova]

You weren't supposed to be on that area

[carmine falcon]

he's so fucking real for this

[misty nova]

There's a tall fence there

[versed fiber]

is dueling sword zealot still good?

[carmine falcon]

yes

[frosty herald]

no

[plush estuary]

whats your definition of good

[frosty herald]

dueling sword gt heavily nerfed

use crusher instead

[versed fiber]

three different answers

very nice

[plush estuary]

its the most broken weapon rn, but it creats bad habits

and is soon to be nerfed

[frosty herald]

dont listen to ainz

its not a good weapon

[plush estuary]

it has the worst horde clear of any human weapon

[carmine falcon]

he thinks

[molten birch]

What of the Devil claw sword?

[plush estuary]

fun

but lacks alot

[jagged cradle]

It’s so peak

[versed fiber]

what is a good build then?

[misty nova]

Parry stick

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah armor is from hestia track

[misty nova]

Deals 5 damage to flak (not actually 5)

Mk1 doesn't have a reliable Strikedown so avoid it

[versed fiber]

what if its for fun?

[pure tree]

@copper hawk

[plush estuary]

idc use whatever

its a video game

but the point still stands

DS has the worst horde clear in the game, not that it doesnt have problem clearing

its just slower

[pure tree]

Are they actually?

Is it getting a nerf after ten years?

[paper pine]

A weapon you can only use to defend

[stone fern]

yard update: sound is still giga broken

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/pognt-discord-original-gif-20020250

[placid leaf]

what ya want to begin with
there is even a big bonk build, that is able to literally one shot every boss in the game, even on the hardest difficulty wit a single bonk

[versed fiber]

all rounder kinda thing

tho the bonk sounds nice

[placid leaf]

look at this 1y old video, but build still does exactly the same thing https://youtu.be/zgndLD_L9vM

[carmine falcon]

if you want a nice all rounder use relic blade

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/swat-fbi-payday2-gif-22048003

[versed fiber]

not a fan of stealth

[frosty herald]

Omw arbitesmaxxing

[plush estuary]

I love gimping my guild to reach a 1shot on enemies I can kill in 10 hits

[versed fiber]

yeah it looks bad

[frosty herald]

didnt know darktide had guilds

[versed fiber]

holy that looks fun, just gotta get to level 18

yes i was a grail knight main in vermentide, how can you tell?

[misty nova]

If you want a cool jack of all trades use eviscerator mk15 with bloodthirsty

[north sedge]

Weird way to spell relic

[plush estuary]

you mean crusher

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-did-i-stutter-sarcasm-gif-3537210

[misty nova]

Zealot when it comes to generalist melees

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

Honorable mention
Rashad

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-hand-shake-gif-12948959

[plush estuary]

how does DEATH-TO-RUMBLERBOT sounds?

[misty nova]

Sounds rude against Ogryns

[plush estuary]

I wish I could play the game rn

but no

rumbler ogryns

[ripe quest]

Going to rip you apart now

[obsidian ore]

HMMMM RUMBLER OGRYNS

TASTY

[plush estuary]

shush ham

did you finish testing FGS with bolt pistol?

[obsidian ore]

I LOVE it when I can't play the game

it is decent without lag

but not top tier if you ask me

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lag-gif-22868483

[plush estuary]

was doing a I-II-VEG with 2 rumblers

I cant have shit

[median steeple]

Low frame generator

[plush estuary]

also I got told

"use book around the boss to stun them"

thank you random zealot

that left the instant you got trapped

so i hit them with the "Welcome to LeaveTide, feel free to leave when you go down, I know you aren't strong enough to last for the respawn timer"

[misty nova]

Bold words for someone in Bloodthirsty Evis15 range

https://tenor.com/view/lycandough-denji-chainsaw-man-chainsaw-chainsaw-man-csm-gif-25860280

[frosty herald]

Had a rumbler ogryn in my mortis game

[misty nova]

Also hi exhillious

Long time no see

[frosty herald]

This fucking dumbass barreled me because his SINGLE SMIDGEON HE CALLED A BRAIN DIDNT LOOK AT ALL WHERE HE SHOT

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-3646877800214258094

[frosty herald]

I had so many framedrops my god

[stoic snow]

is braced autogun really as bad as some people say?

[misty nova]

Nuh uh (yes)

It's decent at being this power weapon that doesn't care about crits and such

It's just that the alternative is better

[analog ember]

No use case in zealot. Good for memes on vet

[stoic snow]

which is?

[misty nova]

Infantry Autoguns for dps

Flamer for hordes

Boltgun for dps

[plush estuary]

Has good use on zealot for mixed horde clear if you arent capable of dealing with ragers in a horde. And since zealot can get stun immunity you cant get stunned out of brace stance, plus with dance of death talent it fires like a laser beam

I use it all the time for the twins fight

fastest mark

but if you want it for the mixed horde clear

you want the slowest one that has cleave

[misty nova]

Laspistol for dps

[stoic snow]

yeah i was looking for something on mixed horde clear. i use it and i think its good for that case but was just wondering if there was something else anyone would recommend

i snipe well enough with it weirdly

[plush estuary]

flamer does amazing mixed horde clear

the best

[stoic snow]

used to run flamer but i really needed something to deal with distance

[misty nova]

It's doable with small taps

[vast basin]

tknives should be able to handle farther enemies pretty well for flamer

[stoic snow]

what if i miss 😨

[vast basin]

throw another

they refill with melee elite/specialist kills and you got 12

[frosty herald]

Then you take stuns

[ornate bone]

Is the mk13g chainsword weaker for horde clear vs the mk 4? Or does it just have weak horde clear regardless

[stone fern]

leavetide is when the psyker unips the blitz

[grizzled aspen]

Mk13 spams lights and mulches everything that isn't carapace.

[hard nexus]

brauto is good

its not as good as flamer, bolter

but it can do its job

[delicate shadow]

agri brauto my beloved

[hard nexus]

hi sharquino

[delicate shadow]

it'll get the job done as meow says

[ornate bone]

Yeah that’s what I’ve been doing but I wasn’t sure just special activate heavies on carapace if I’m correct?

[sterile stone]

What are you doing around these parts

[ornate bone]

It does feel better then the mk 15 unfortunately lol

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-ariane-signalis-haiti-gif-4452344696336355443

[sterile stone]

Super Earth needs you

[delicate shadow]

super earth needs to keep burning you mean

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jNusv6r7cD9fkEfub?invite=cr-MSwxc1QsMjA0ODY2MDQ3

do this on heavy revs against carapace, this is an evis but it applies to chainsword as well

itll one shot crushers

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, special, hit, then pop chastise, and you kill a crusher instantly.

[hard nexus]

and deal significantly more damage to bosses

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-13746396505480870613

[plush estuary]

1 hp, gg

[sterile stone]

Not gonna allow the little blueberries on Super Earth to die

[ornate bone]

Well I chorus lol so I won’t be able to do that combo lol

[hard nexus]

tbf thats no buffs

[ornate bone]

I could if I use my Martydom build tho

[hard nexus]

chainsword falls off without chastise

[grizzled aspen]

The blueberries keep throwing grenades without saying anything and point blanking shit with EAT's.

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/helldivers-2/clips/kmUWUWi6haVbIj0hA?invite=cr-MSxZTXosMjA0ODY2MDQ3

[sterile stone]

Skill issue

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/renuu-thanos-rest-peaceful-gif-20831938

[grizzled aspen]

me, expertly about to dodge a fleshmob and kill it:
the seaf gremlin lining up an EAT, knowing I'm in the blast zone:

[sterile stone]

It is kinda impressive they coded the AI to swap weapons depending on the threat

[grizzled aspen]

Gold.

[sterile stone]

Apparently they change firing modes based on who they're currently shooting aswell

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

@copper hawk

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah they tap fire at flying overseers until they fly too close and then they just full auto.

[mystic scarab]

Any advice for a lv 4 zealot

[sterile stone]

Level up to 30 before taking advice.

[grizzled aspen]

Path right side to second wind, learn to dodge.

[frosty herald]

The seaf AI is genuinely impressive

[ornate bone]

I kinda wish the middle path wasn’t so useless lol

I’d like to use stun grenades but I lose so much pathing for them

[grizzled aspen]

From what I've heard they are significantly smarter than what they were initially going to be released as.

[sterile stone]

I hope they make them a stratagem

[grizzled aspen]

I imagine we will get a stratagem that's just a bunch of seaf goobers to drop on a planet when this is all over.

[mystic scarab]

I rather take advice and not make a fool of myself cuz i dont understand how to play the character and cost us a loss 😭

[grizzled aspen]

Like this might be the "test run" for their ai, if you will.

[ornate bone]

Trial and error

[sterile stone]

Is a casual game friend, you're gonna be fine.

You ain't playing for tournament money.

And builds only come full circle at level 30.

[mystic scarab]

I got a dollar on the line

[grizzled aspen]

Super Earth defense missions are quite high intensity with lots of close quarters engagements. It's a perfect environment to test ai on.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-good-god-gif-21598719

[north sedge]

There already was a stratagem in the files for it, at launch. It was not good!

[sterile stone]

I really hope they take into consideration specialized SEAF units like proposed in the video.

Like a squad of 6 and 1 is a radio operator, 1 is a heavy, and the other 4 are basic troopers

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine we get an seaf sniper and they just fucking dome overseers for fun.

[sterile stone]

What does the SEAF radio operator even do?

Can they call in their own strats?

[grizzled aspen]

Reduce stratagem cooldown while in their aoe?

[sterile stone]

[grizzled aspen]

i.e. 3min stratagem cooldown becomes 2min 30s.

Idk what else a radio operator would be good for in that context.

Helldivers are kind of meant to be one man armies.

[ornate bone]

Trying to get auric maestrom penance 5 times in pubs has to be one of the hardest feats to do

[frosty herald]

Helldivers 1 had a booster which reduced stratagem cooldowns by 40%

Good stuff

[hard nexus]

an AT team would be really cool

with a recoilless rifle n a dedicated loader

or a flamethrower

[sterile stone]

Saw this on reddit

[grizzled aspen]

Oh this just made me think seaf could be coded to do team reloads for you.

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-shades-cool-smug-cool-shades-gif-18677159

[hard nexus]

depending on what enemy you're fighting,
bots have AT teams
bugs have flamers
squids have a mix or something idk

[sterile stone]

I like the thinking.

[grizzled aspen]

It would be so fucking sick to have random blueberry goblin #5999276 help me load recoilless rounds to drop bot dropships.

[sterile stone]

It's cool they can follow commands

And they salute you when you salute them back

[grizzled aspen]

Now we just need to be able to say "hold position, but over there."

[ripe quest]

My best.

[light badge]

Yall think Deimos needs a nerf?

[sterile stone]

Something I wasn't prepared for was how short they are.

Or I guess how absolutely tall Helldivers are.

[grizzled aspen]

Something tells me helldivers are genetically engineered super soldiers or something.

Like think about it, right.

[sterile stone]

Yeah that makes sense, I can't imagine anyone else jabbing a needle into their neck to fix a broken arm