zealot-class

[placid fiber]

One time someone new joined and was saying the knife could 1 shot a damnation plague ogryn and "he who shall not be named" had a build for it and several clips showing it... someone else wanted that build, but, they never shared the build or clips before they left shortly afterwards

meanwhile I provided the clip I showed earlier(which had the 10% weakspot damage) showing me 1 shotting a damnation plague ogryn <.<

[small kernel]

well i guess i can keep running around in aurics with my thammer

waiting for that demon host to spawn

[placid fiber]

Just make sure to get the backstab hit or it might not 1 shot it >.>

[placid fiber]

I have 2 of those...

[small kernel]

its everywhere i have like 2 pages

also yeah ofc i'll backstab

thats majority of the damage

are scriptures and grimoires removed btw?

i have seen those skulls we can shoot but havent seen any mission with scripture/grim

[placid fiber]

no, they might not be showing up temporarily due to the event tho

[small kernel]

oh

[placid fiber]

that or you're just unlucky

[hearty nebula]

??

there is no luck

you can literally see before you go into a mission if it has grimoires or scriptures

[placid fiber]

I mean for a mission with grimoirs or scriptures to pop up on the board :3

[hearty nebula]

means it has scrips/grims

[placid fiber]

Gottem

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473062374400589828/1339946203554779136/ezgif-3-148303765a.gif

[merry turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-xii-ffxii-ff12-gabranth-gif-19763628

[small kernel]

i know that as well

had non on board

so assumed it was disabled because of event after what he said

[placid fiber]

That was just a theory, not something I actually knew for a fact >.>'

[hearty nebula]

ye

the judges are cool

my veteran is named Drace lol

[merry turtle]

tell me more about your psyker and ogryn

[hearty nebula]

they exist

[merry turtle]

reminding me a sad thing here

[hushed knoll]

Why are you standing in the rain

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/943509112258428958/1373318648361517057/InShot_20240711_074035821.gif

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

NO

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sad-explosion-red-flag-noo-gif-12711595609368859904

[hearty nebula]

freak art

[solar gorge]

unrealistic

anyone wearing a beta helmet is usually busy hugging the ground

[hearty nebula]

if i were that zealot i'd use that thunderhammer on the ogryn

[copper hawk]

yo mama

[bitter anvil]

i love veteran beta helmet

that balaclava mask is so fitting for my merencary drip

[subtle sentinel]

That's a cute SHOUTY

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/mari-omori-mari-omori-omori-kills-mari-mari-killing-omori-gif-9961386371670454692

[jolly scaffold]

so if I wanted to do doomslayer themed build, I obv bring double barrel shotgun and charge build

but what melee y'all suggest? Evis or relic blde?

[bitter anvil]

[subtle sentinel]

Chainsword sounds the best

[bitter charm]

Wait for Arbites 😄

[jolly scaffold]

which is better for single target armored enemies since shotugn gotr everythinhg else covered

and ofc daggers for throwing

[heady rapids]

relic

chain weapons save for chaxe have a side effect of either being a blunt stick while killing carapace or dying from revving it up and taking an overhead

[jolly scaffold]

okay thanks

would chain axe be better then?

[heady rapids]

well if you can cope with its low mobility

then kinda

sorta

[jolly scaffold]

gotcha

[jolly scaffold]

girl you know im already an Arbitem ain before it comeso ut. but for now with zealot double barrel, melee specialist, dagger throwing, you think its the doom guy

[heady rapids]

db on zealot is certainly gonna be one of the things of all time

[copper hawk]

gnarpbites

[heady rapids]

considering zealot only has 1 ranged talent

[bitter anvil]

gah i still use combat shotgun

[bitter charm]

Arbites main here as well, can't wait till he's released

[upbeat nymph]

Would be nice if chain weapons suppressed nearby enemies while shredding

or had a blessing that enabled it to do so

[hearty nebula]

hai cica :3c

[copper hawk]

hai

[heady rapids]

well that already dilutes an already shitty pool for evis and csword

[upbeat nymph]

I suppose it would

[jolly scaffold]

which mark of the relic blade is best for dueling

[heady rapids]

whichever one you like

your optimal single target is the sprinting heavy

both of them can do it

[atomic fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/peak-its-so-peak-praying-hands-praying-black-guy-gif-9969548697603007069

[jolly scaffold]

sorry for noob question but carpace armor is heavily armored lads like maulers right

[hollow meteor]

Ogryn elites, Scab Rager bodies, Mauler heads

[placid fiber]

@acoustic dune What do you think of my new emote? >:3

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

[placid fiber]

mauler heads, rager chests, crushers, certain parts on bulwarks and reapers

[jolly scaffold]

ty

[copper hawk]

snipers on their way to single handedly ruin a tf2 match

[acoustic dune]

me right now

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-david-livesey-david-livesey-doctor-livesey-chad-rom-and-skull-gif-26497072

[hollow meteor]

It's a good job, moite

[copper hawk]

kill all sniper players

kill all pyro players

dat shrimple.

[hollow meteor]

[acoustic dune]

just doge???

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-doge-moon-meme-tesla-gif-5765465198811804226

[placid fiber]

the 10 snipers in a mortis trial that only you, out of the 4 players, has the brains to be able to target:

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-dog-dog-dogs-gif-24541288

[grizzled aspen]

Pyros are fine, fuck soldiers that use black box and battalions backup.

[hearty nebula]

ok lol

[stone fern]

motion sickness pov

[hearty nebula]

what is blud even yapping about

[copper hawk]

im rlly digging the player stuff at the top right

that looks rlly nice

[frosty herald]

maybe the zealot really is a living saint

[signal spoke]

That is how people avoid dog pounches, just stand still

We have been doing it all wrong along of dodging

[sullen forge]

Hound pounces Ogryn to the right who is in the way, magnetically locks onto me

Thank you shitfarttide

[zealous basin]

weird lookin cat

[modest tendon]

Good afternoon Brothers,

Question: what's the best way to use the TH? In swarms do i want to ge trying to do the heavy cleave or just single bonks?

Elites/bosses, do I want to be getting the TH charge with the special and if so do I want to be using heavies ?

[blissful frigate]

spam uncharged heavies into horde, if it's just one or two small guys you can bonk em real quick. Figure out the charged attack breakpoints for each elite. You definitely have to have a few stacks of Thrust for ogryns and maulers, but gunners and sometimes ragers don't really need that

with flak damage + headtaker stacks you can start using light charged attacks against scab gunners and ragers

but generally you're gonna have a worse time with TH than other weapons against anything that isn't a boss with a healthbar

and even then you can still get a lot of weapons to do the same big hit damage

[modest tendon]

Thank you for the reply.

I am new to zealot class and TH. wdym by stacks of thrust?

[mighty root]

@spare talon how do i use the mk7 hsword?

How does the h1 work?

[violet hornet]

Holding a heavy before releasing it will give you more stacks for holding it longer, up to three

[modest tendon]

ah ok i didnt know that was the name for it lol

ty for the help[

[violet hornet]

#zealot-class message

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d80d899-dba2-4cad-af4f-fe11b5e9eacd/hsword-7-bolter

Seems to work well with piety too but I run momentum

[mighty root]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01JNTSHDH983SR2SCGYTWXBMYA/4x.avif

[modest tendon]

when you say "charged heavies" you mean the special ? the thunder part of the TH

[mighty root]

I’m using it on vet

[twin smelt]

No just holding the attack button

The normal attack button

[modest tendon]

What do i use the special on, or is there no need for that?

[hard nexus]

ogryns, bosses

maulers

light special for ragers

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[modest tendon]

ok got ya. Big armoured thing. charged special

[mighty root]

Das u eating ur slop

[hushed knoll]

No

https://tenor.com/view/smh-kermit-kermit-the-frog-muppet-muppets-gif-467850616214781464

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[hushed knoll]

NO NO NO NO NO

[subtle sentinel]

I will switch to mk12 chianaxe

Not liking heavy for horde light for elite

Other way around is more comfortable

[runic grotto]

Is there a way so start mortis trials from the very beginning

I tried them for the first time yesterday

And it kept putting me into wave 5

But I wanted to get the full experience

[gray compass]

just spam it and hope you don't get into an ongoing mission

[runic grotto]

I started it and first try I got 1st wave

[magic basin]

First 5 waves are extremely boring

[runic grotto]

Whatever you did, thanks

[subtle sentinel]

Got a perfect double barrel in 6 rolls

Let's gooo

[runic grotto]

I'll never get used to new perfect being so boring

back in my day I used to spend millions of dockets just to get close enough to perfect

[misty ravine]

I was there, that was boring and annoying as fuck on top of it

[analog ember]

those were the days

back when godrolls meant something

[misty ravine]

Spend millions of dockets and tens of thousands of plasteel for gacha tokens with which to try to get close enough to perfect. Or, lower your definition of "close enough to perfect" and be finished with the grind anyways.

[runic grotto]

truuuue

[misty ravine]

Meant you got lucky. The current system isn't perfect but it's orders of magnitude better than the old one, especially if you're new

[analog ember]

what is luck but an extension of one's skill

[misty ravine]

Only as far as being able to clear the highest difficulty quickly and reliably means more resources with which to buy more rerolls

[runic grotto]

Nowadays I don't even get excited when buying a new weapon

[north sedge]

Old system was garbo

[misty ravine]

You got excited when buying a new weapon? I get excited when I get to use one.

[subtle sentinel]

Not sure if I am enjoying double barrel

Doesn't seem to do anything my melee doesn't already do, and doesn't do anything long range weappns do

What niche does this even fill

[analog ember]

it's stronger on vet imo

[mighty root]

Tbh it’s mainly a vet weapon

[subtle sentinel]

Smh

[analog ember]

it's one of the few guns that horde clears efficiently, kills most elites and specialists well too

[mighty root]

It’s good but strongest on vet

Mixed horde clear

[runic grotto]

It's good on vet because he doesn't need to reload it ever and has basically 100% crit chance with it

[analog ember]

yeah swing your melee weapon once or twice, and you get a guaranteed crit and a reloaded shell

[misty ravine]

Old system was garbo, before that it was garbo and incomplete, and apparently that was because the system they had been developing was so bad it had to be thrown out and a new one hastily put together right before launch. I still wonder what the original one was supposed to be like.

That time period when they made Perk rerolls lower in cost until they became free, but still required you to reroll them rather than just selecting them, was hilarious. People using mods to automate the rerolls and seeing how many hundreds or thousands of rolls it took to get +25% vs Flak or whatever

[runic grotto]

Come on, it didn't take thousands

Hundreds, maybe

[analog ember]

depends on the weapon

a perfect rashad or plasma could def be thousands lol

[runic grotto]

Perks are the same for all weapons

[misty ravine]

Hundreds was the norm for me, I saw some rerolls take 1000+

[hearty nebula]

lol

[analog ember]

except you're not rolling for just perks?

[runic grotto]

The only time they took a thousand for me was because I was an idiot and tried getting lvl 4 perks before I could get them

[misty ravine]

I remember trying to roll a tier 4 perk on some Curio that was probably too low an item level to even have tier 4 perks, I left it alone to reroll several thousand times and it never got there

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880023182105542697/1172928040406360105/togif.gif?ex=68348f5c&is=68333ddc&hm=0e067ca9036a8b277f122e8489c1fb3ff14d81b7fc65597f479f39db4ca84815&

you haven't unlocked your gambling protentional

[misty ravine]

Something something 90% of gambling addicts quit right before they win the big jackpot

[subtle sentinel]

Didn't help me at all with hordes lol

What do I use with chainaxe then

Bolter?

[frosty herald]

the bossmanjack mentality is win big then gamble again

[analog ember]

Well you need the infinite cleave, and also flechette for that to be optimal

Which means vet

[subtle sentinel]

Fuck vet smh

[analog ember]

Good option because chaxe boss damage kinda sucks

Then again chaxe sucks in general

[analog ember]

Top 4 class

[subtle sentinel]

Bolters reload sucks...

[subtle sentinel]

Easily

[analog ember]

I’m still a vet main but vet is pathetic right now lol

[misty ravine]

For another few weeks at least

[subtle sentinel]

I can buy 4 bolters rn

Shredder autopistol is great they said, is it really?

[analog ember]

It’s pretty good rn

[subtle sentinel]

What is the dump stat again?

On bolter

[analog ember]

Mob

[subtle sentinel]

65 mob 75 collateral

Good?

[analog ember]

try getting a 60 mob

[subtle sentinel]

How do u guys cope with the reload speed

[analog ember]

idk i find it ok

[placid fiber]

collateral on zealot, mobility on vet

[subtle sentinel]

Wait, chain axe dump is defences?

Fuck

I already got a 60% mobility I am leveling

Whatever can't matter that much

[placid fiber]

mobility is probably better, since defences affects push and sprint costs

[hearty nebula]

just

check pinned guide

ffs

[placid fiber]

But collateral at 80% just makes it take 4 shots to open a bulwark instead of 5 @subtle sentinel

you are wasting ammo either way

vet can get it in 2, tho, iirc with executioner stance

[subtle sentinel]

I am going puncture and shattering impact

[subtle sentinel]

I am

[placid fiber]

that's the meta blessings

[subtle sentinel]

That's why I said "it is defences?"

It wasn't a question

[hearty nebula]

the answer is yes

[subtle sentinel]

Guide says defences

[placid fiber]

It's ultimately up to you

[hearty nebula]

dark has many takes

few being good

[subtle sentinel]

Well I am talking to them right now, so

[hearty nebula]

unfortunate

hope you recover soon

[subtle sentinel]

Guide said either shattering or pinning

Shattering sounds better

[placid fiber]

shattering lets you deal with crushers better with it

[modern lintel]

shattering

[placid leaf]

do ya guys have a good assassin build for zealot?

[placid fiber]

eh, shroudfield is off meta but I can probably piece one together

[placid fiber]

probably something like this

alternatively if you want twbs probably this

[subtle sentinel]

I hope the reload speed I get used to

Cuz damn it is SLOW

It is like 7 seconds

With very few ammo to begin with

You would kill that crusher with melee by the time you finish reloading

[placid fiber]

it is rough, but, it can kill iirc 3 crushers in 1 mag when used right

and hurt a 4th one

[subtle sentinel]

And not catch enough of a break to reload for the 5th one

I should get a perfect of each weapon so I can try whenever

[placid leaf]

and i guess revolver + dagger right?

[placid fiber]

Eh, if you're using knife probably the flamer

twbs does help the flamer since you won't get knocked out of it while getting blaze away and overpressure stacked

[placid leaf]

ok ive found an auric meta build for ninja zaelot
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a7a817d-6ef9-49b6-9e1e-c6f1d03b3fec/zealot-meta-stealth-auric

[placid fiber]

That is not meta

[grizzled aspen]

stealth
"meta"

Those two terms are mutually exclusive.

[subtle sentinel]

Wtf is that image

[placid fiber]

Also this build sucks

[subtle sentinel]

People really slap the word "meta" on every slop to get clicks

I can already imagine I won't enjoy the boltgun much, so, should get a shredder too just in case

[north sedge]

the classic razgriz

[subtle sentinel]

The what

[placid fiber]

wow this is so ass...

the dump stats are right but the crit perks and the curios...

[subtle sentinel]

Should have figured when u saw 3 health curios

[placid fiber]

I looked at the talent tree and knew it was ass immediately

[subtle sentinel]

Corruption resistance???

[north sedge]

All those meta builds are by the same guy, he just slapped meta on the name when the build editor first came out

[subtle sentinel]

I saw the thumbnail and realized it is ass

[grizzled aspen]

Alright, time to list off everything wrong with that "build."

crit chance on weapons is useless, that perk only ever goes on laspistol
hp curios are unnecessary on zealout, because we already have 200 hp
the perks on said curios are also useless except for gunner resistance and toughnes
its stealth "meta"
takes until death but not holy rev

[subtle sentinel]

I wouldn't trust a build with an ai slop looking image any day

Stupid femboy memes are more trustworthy

[placid fiber]

it also has loner

[subtle sentinel]

That makes sense for a shroud build

But shroud build is already stupid

[frosty herald]

:(

[placid fiber]

look at the talent point costs between these 2

[grizzled aspen]

I'm seriously about to make a gameslantern profile only to downvote it.

[placid fiber]

the 2nd one has a 15 toughness talent AND benediction

[grizzled aspen]

AND it makes until death functional with holy rev.

[placid fiber]

Yep

[grizzled aspen]

Until death without holy rev is like making yourself a pb+j, hold the pb.

[placid fiber]

AND if you take benediction you can skip twbs and dance of death on the knife

[subtle sentinel]

They both have holy rev tho

[placid fiber]

the other person's build doesn't

[subtle sentinel]

If you are going for a shroud infiltrator build you will be fucking around on your own you need loner

[grizzled aspen]

The original one doesnt.

No you don't.

[subtle sentinel]

Well what is the other image you sent then

[grizzled aspen]

10% constant tdr on top of how quickly you kill literally everything around you vs being counted as in coherency with 1 other person, that's a no brainer.

[placid fiber]

to show the talent point difference between loner and benediction

19 with loner, 20 with benediction(with a 15 toughness node)

[grizzled aspen]

Because, yknow, coherency toughness takes a bit to kick in, and it generates really slowly.

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah that's literally 1 point

[placid fiber]

which on both builds I showed earlier it worked out

#zealot-class message

[grizzled aspen]

The point he is making is why would you take significantly worse talents when you can spend 1 more point and have objectively better talents and pathing.

[subtle sentinel]

I still don't see how benediction costing 1 more has to do with anything

[grizzled aspen]

Technically it's actually 1 point cheaper because you don't need twbs and dod.

[subtle sentinel]

Cuz it fits shroud better

[grizzled aspen]

Dropping both puts you at 18.

[placid fiber]

benediction costing 1 more gives 15% toughness dr AND a 15 toughness node instead of a near useless aura

[subtle sentinel]

You are playing shroud I doubt you will get hit at all

[grizzled aspen]

Do you understand that just because something "fits better" does not make it a better option?

[subtle sentinel]

A shroud build is already not good

[grizzled aspen]

And yeah, shroud gamers die alot faster than chastise and even chorus gamers.

[placid fiber]

You have to use your melee for invocation of death to proc...

[subtle sentinel]

If you are gonna have fun with an assassin build you might as well pick loner and go all in

Cuz it is not a good build to begin with

[grizzled aspen]

Or you could like, pick vet, and use low profile with infiltrate.

[subtle sentinel]

Doesnt fit the assassin fashion ig

[placid fiber]

You're speaking as someone without our experience with how darktide works

on auric maelstrom you WILL get hit whether by gunners or melee

because if you're not going to hit why take toughness dr on crit or second wind?

It's almost like... oh yeah, you're going to get hit

[grizzled aspen]

There is a certain measure of damage that is entirely unavoidable throughout the game.

[placid fiber]

the higher you go past damnation the less likely you are to avoid damage

[grizzled aspen]

No ability or skill can change that, it's the nature of having hitscan projectiles in the game.

[static sky]

Teammates blowing barrels right next to you. Inevitable!!!!

[grizzled aspen]

It's always fucking ogryn players too, being too unaware of their surroundings so their melee hits barrels or they clip them with a kickback or rumbler aoe.

[placid fiber]

@placid leaf this with knife and flamer is probably what will give you the best results for aurics

tknives are for sniping specials and pulling the flamer out faster

[placid leaf]

i mean it is a more for fun build for a serious runs i have a good old bolter + thunder hammer build

[placid fiber]

As much as 1 talent point being saved might sound good by taking loner... you lose a 15 toughness node and 15% base toughness dr which is why I never suggest taking loner for a build

[static sky]

If you’re not blending heretics with a relic blade and dashing into trapper nets, do you even zealottide?

[placid fiber]

Yeah, that jumpscare when I realize a barrel is there as I am swinging my melee is real

It's harder to avoid on oggy due to a bigger swing pattern on most weapons 😦

[static sky]

That big beautiful rock is for barrels. Not mutants or snipers. I love watching the ogryns get tackled and absolutely bodied by mutants. Like 40K ufc

I could throw a knife and save them… but the absolute cinema of them getting ground and pounded is majestic af.

[elfin thorn]

bonktide

[hushed knoll]

HI FROGCASTTHONY ILY

OWO NOTICES YOU

[hushed knoll]

That is not true

They love me and are proud of me

[grizzled aspen]

I have to find the meanest things possible to send back to you when you do this.

[hushed knoll]

Dough

[hushed knoll]

@lusty turtle Hi we need to ban Doughthony

Also if you're reading this hi skelly

[wary finch]

Voidblast psykers triggering a fucking barrel way outside their blast radius

Still never fixed that bug

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-kasane-teto-teto-pear-teto-kasane-gif-14835776628716292709

[subtle sentinel]

Cuz they don't know what kinda stuff u say online...

[subtle sentinel]

No no o no no no no n o

[hushed knoll]

WTF

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-kasaneteto-kasane-teto-gif-6868499201719719762

[subtle sentinel]

Just helping frog make sense

[subtle sentinel]

That's good

Not pearto tho

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-kasane-pearto-ai-gif-6668288110338610891

[misty nova]

Who up Gucking stan

[subtle sentinel]

As expected of someone with a name that stupid

Stan fucked up

After that, he proceeded to vent his frustration by sending letters to Eminem

[hushed knoll]

😒

[hushed knoll]

What

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1321522672588558386/1376243142570807376/caption.gif

[subtle sentinel]

You don't know that?

[placid leaf]

ok ive found one thing hilarious
shrouded thunder hammer special power attack is capable of dealing like a 50% of boss hp(on malice) if ya hit its back - i dont have right blessings yet

[hard nexus]

you can one shot damnation daemonhosts with a thunder hammer

@placid fiber

post the clip !

[placid leaf]

i know

i dont have right stats and blessings on my hammer yet

https://youtu.be/zgndLD_L9vM

[jolly scaffold]

which chian axe MK is better for dueling

[acoustic dune]

someone mind helping me with SPWACE MAROON 2?

i am doing compaign

[placid fiber]

uh

You're lucky I didn't accidentally delete it lol

[tame sluice]

I got kicked for using ABRL because some guys gas mines killed 4 SEAF soldiers right when I shot in a different direction

[median steeple]

teto......

[subtle sentinel]

On god?

Bruh

[frosty herald]

does require alot of setup

and a good amount of timing and precision

your going to fail to get off a full charged hammer with shroud consitently

[runic grotto]

ok, mortis trials are insanely boring

[subtle sentinel]

They are great for penances

[placid leaf]

yeah

like a 50 muties running at ya

[subtle sentinel]

And infinite grenades

[runic grotto]

I already have all class penances completed

Mortis trials are only good for mortis trials

[analog ember]

i love how fatshart added an entire new gamemode just to help me complete the lucky bullet penance

how kind of them

[subtle sentinel]

What is lucky bullet

[analog ember]

ogryn keystone

[signal spoke]

Burst Limiter Overdrive keystone for Ogryn

[sullen forge]

Mortis trials existing solely for penance grinding that’s it

Lmao

[subtle sentinel]

Why in zealot chat

[sullen forge]

Cause Ogryn is better zealot

[signal spoke]

Ogryn is better everyone

[clever swan]

ogryn brain burst be doing numbers

[signal spoke]

And I can proof to you all that he still better than upcoming arbites, I got the footage

[solar prism]

what is better thrust or Riposte

[sullen forge]

Patiently waiting for Ogryn nerfs cause it’s insane how strong it is lmao

[signal spoke]

Honestly the left side needs nerfs

Maybe tone down the mk3b bully club

[sullen forge]

A lot of the most picked choices genuinely need toning down

And Confident Strike needs to be gutted

Pan the video of Ogryn soloing 7 Plogryns without dodging or blocking once

It’s that strong

[frosty herald]

funny clip

[sullen forge]

The moment shit like that happens I just go

Yup, that’s enough evidence

[misty nova]

For what?

[signal spoke]

I honestly feel that the bleed stack apply on hit needs some change, this is gonna be controversial
Either revert it back to trigger on heavies or make it light attacks apply 1 bleed stack, heavies 2 bleed stacks

Light spam is already OP asf

[solar prism]

Duelling Sword

[sullen forge]

I’m fine with heavies dealing heavier bleed but light spam

[solar prism]

with uncany

[sullen forge]

Really is just free 16 stacks immediately

[signal spoke]

Yeah that is what I hate about it

Given how much ogryn has got lot of attack speed talents

[sullen forge]

Veteran with 2 on hit regardless is interesting yet it’s pathing is bad and it’s generally just

Bad

On the class

Zealot with Scourge, outside of the added benefit

It’s pretty bad also

[frosty herald]

vet having 1.5% rending per hit on an enemy is goofy

[signal spoke]

MK3b light spam just stacking max bleed in just 3 seconds

[hard nexus]

yeah u aren’t taking it for the bleed itself

[frosty herald]

For the DR

[hard nexus]

referring to zealot and vet

not ogryn

[sullen forge]

It hurts cause it genuinely can be a make or break with his Arsenal

[frosty herald]

:(

[frosty herald]

It should imo be 5% brittleness per hit to be useful

[hard nexus]

zealot and vet don’t take bleed talents for the bleed damage itself, but for the buffs you can get with it (mercy killer, crit builds)

[signal spoke]

I dont know what else that needs to be nerfed on ogryn tree besides the left side
I feel that the middle and right sides are balanced unless I am forgetting few

[sullen forge]

It’s why I’m not going nuts over it and besides it’s only 10%

[sullen forge]

That’s just onslaught

[frosty herald]

:)

[sullen forge]

And you already know how that performs

[north sedge]

no nuffs only berfs

[analog ember]

all the damage talents need to be looked at

and idk how they're even going to be fixing rumbler

[sullen forge]

Is it justified

[frosty herald]

I do want vet to have a better tree with less talents

[sullen forge]

To immediately leave

Upon seeing a Rumbler Ogryn

[analog ember]

yes

or take all the ammo

[sullen forge]

It’s like the new age Smyker

[analog ember]

even if you're at full ammo

[frosty herald]

Is he using gunlugger

[analog ember]

smyker is way less annoying that rumblergryn

smyker looks like a normal build in comparison

[signal spoke]

Idk how there are ogrynheimers taking all the ammo when the back off is there and learn to ammo economy

[frosty herald]

It is funny killing enemies before the rumbler nade explodes

Im kill stealing idgaf

[analog ember]

honestly the intern that okayed the current ogryn needs to be fired

[signal spoke]

[analog ember]

and banned from working in the gaming industry

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-smile-smile-gorilla-nefarious-gorilla-gif-27417794

[clever swan]

I bet the ogrynomicon people are partially to blame

[signal spoke]

We must fire Hank /j

[clever swan]

if you think about it the ogryn rework project was basically infiltrated by a pro ogryn action committee

[signal spoke]

I don't think the ogrynomicon authors are all to blame for the rework really

There might been few overtunes though

[analog ember]

likely

i'm assuming they were playtesters

[signal spoke]

Yes

They are

[analog ember]

so those fucks knew exactly what was happening lol

[light badge]

Zealchat, it is your job to nerf psyker

What happens?

[signal spoke]

My guess that they also give ideas and feedback for the talents

[frosty herald]

The ogryn rework is outweighed by the overwhelming stupidity of its mains

[signal spoke]

[sullen forge]

Day 1

Learned how brain dead that was

[signal spoke]

I might be one but I am a casual main

[median steeple]

All Brain power is dedicated to larping

[signal spoke]

Kickback lugger wins

Better ammo economy, faster killing, less annoying particles and tumbles from explosions

[frosty herald]

I just like using borovian pickaxe ripper

[sullen forge]

Weapon Specialist vet literally wishes it had strong synergy like that

[frosty herald]

Imagine grenade launcher vet

With weapon specialist

[acoustic dune]

grenade laucher anything

i wanna see a zealot with like a huge one hand weapon

like almost to no ammo weapon with high damage

[frosty herald]

Vengeance launcher on vet

[signal spoke]

[light badge]

I think it'd be cool if psyker got nerfed

Shame FS will never do that and will just continue powercreeping everything

[acoustic dune]

make psycher only able to use smite

[light badge]

That's accurate to at least half of pub psykers rn anyway

[signal spoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/paxtonsiempre/status/1926692960231432478 Look at this weird fly I found

paxton 🦭 (@paxtonsiempre)

so is alu-san a cookie, boba drink, or ladybug?
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FxTwitter · May 25, 2025, 5:32 PM

[frosty herald]

Hi cole

[signal spoke]

Bruh I literally just checked the reddit and saw the image LOL

[acoustic dune]

creation of mass destruction

ruiner of many world

taker of boop das snoot

[frosty herald]

MY SKITARII ARE ALL MORONS

[median steeple]

Playing mechanicus

[subtle sentinel]

MY VARLETS ARE ALL INCOMPETENT

[frosty herald]

Mechanicus 2 with my kastelan robot rolling a 2 from the 2-24 punch attack

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/mass-destruction-persona-3-gif-8213731820206956312

[median steeple]

Whatever go my lychguard

[frosty herald]

Go my ruststalker

https://tenor.com/view/skin-walker-gif-13151521835891645371

[signal spoke]

DO NOT LOSE MY SERVO SKULL
-# imbeciles

[carmine falcon]

dude funniest thing about ogryn update is

before the update i used to see "ogryn is the most honest class, u have to be good to be a good at it!!"

and now its by far the easiest class to play

[violet hornet]

#general-chat message
Nothing like a lil reminder of why I don't go in general chat lol

[median steeple]

It has to be bait

[carmine falcon]

low effort bait

dont even entertain it

[heady rapids]

the poster's name is oddly familiar

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[violet hornet]

Bait or not it does seem like a pretty clear violation of rule 11 (and not in a fun way)

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-push-back-his-hairline-gif-11241907652566626707

[signal spoke]

I did not know who the name was until I searched online

https://tenor.com/view/lego-death-execution-death-penalty-sorrow-gif-25100565

[spare talon]

I don't undertand

[median steeple]

The guy is making a joke on how he's gonna name his arbites character after the cop who killed George Floyd

[frosty herald]

whats the ods of tanner getting himself banned with a name for the arbites

[median steeple]

more than zero that's for sure

[violet hornet]

That person they're referring to is the police officer found guilty for the murder of George Floyd, exactly 5 years ago

[frosty herald]

i got cursed by the game for 1 second

[signal spoke]

lmao

He would be the type of person to make that

[frosty herald]

gave me an error 4001 when i wanted to log in as vet

[median steeple]

punished for your sins

[void bison]

I was getting confused at what the link was going to and I just realized it's because it's one of the only people i have ignored so the link probably wasn't working properly

no surprise they're a fool

[violet hornet]

Honestly shit like that is why I don't tell random non gamers that I play a Warhammer 40k themed game. This is the personality they'd assume I have

[violet hornet]

Legitimately based yog

[signal spoke]

Username with edge cool ass font
Profile picture Raiden MGR armor

He think he trying to be cool as Jack the reaper

[violet hornet]

Fuck it, go my mod ping

[frosty herald]

i need to get the surpress armor for vet

[void bison]

14 years old or 34 year old failure. call it.

https://tenor.com/view/anton-chigurh-no-country-for-old-men-ok-oops-javier-bardem-gif-10579690

[signal spoke]

Both

https://tenor.com/view/seal-upset-mad-disapproval-indifferent-gif-17524760568909524728

[subtle sentinel]

Glad I am not the only one who finds shini insufferable

[frosty herald]

(i need to rebuild my vet wtf is this)

i dont even remember making an exe stance build wtf

[placid fiber]

Guys I now have 4 happiest troll emotes!

[void bison]

hello darksydephil darkpill

I wanna make more copypasta edits

[full nebula]

DSP?

Needs more whacking it on stream

[median steeple]

DSP playing DTDA

2 grams

[full nebula]

I COULDN'T FUCKIN DO ANYTHING

LOOK AT THAT SHIT

[signal spoke]

Light as a feather

[full nebula]

his laugh

AGH AGH AGH AGH AGH

https://tenor.com/view/dsp-darksydephil-laugh-la-gif-25315533

[stone fern]

I WROTE THIS IN GAME 😭

[signal spoke]

How? Isnt the chat limit very low LOL

[stone fern]

I typed out half of it when my team left

[signal spoke]

[stone fern]

(i didnt remember the whole thing)

also

copypaste works in chat

i have a few saved on an empty discdord

[void bison]

do you mean you made your own one in chat

[stone fern]

yee the conquest one

[subtle sentinel]

Kinda wanna go permanently martyrdom

[stone fern]

and only play thammer right?

[subtle sentinel]

What weapons go well with martyrdom?

No

Chainaxe

But can't decide on ranged

[stone fern]

cant go wrong with boltpistol

you dont really need twbs on chainaxe so you can go stuns

[placid leaf]

the bonk hammer

[misty ravine]

MkX Relic Blade

[median steeple]

you can use like anything on martyr for the most part

I use Chaxe/thammer sometimes

Relic will work on anything

[subtle sentinel]

Build done

Didn't bring blood redemption this time

But chainaxe is fun...

[stone fern]

i used to run this for twbsless builds

[subtle sentinel]

I don't like nades

[analog ember]

kinda cursed lol

[subtle sentinel]

Still trying to get a good bolter

[stone fern]

if you go bolter run throwing knives still

[subtle sentinel]

For wound curios, the rank doesn't matter right?

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah I will

[stone fern]

ye

[subtle sentinel]

I have 2 rn

And a perfect stamina one

[analog ember]

yeah rank doesn't matter

they all only give 1 wound

[stone fern]

i did this with boltpistol since it equips pretty fast

[median steeple]

3 wound curios..... real

[frosty herald]

lets see if shovel agri revolver is fun

[stone fern]

3 wound ONLY

[analog ember]

have fun (suffering)

[subtle sentinel]

All toughness, stam regen, gunner res

[stone fern]

get some hp perks they help with marty

[subtle sentinel]

How many

[stone fern]

tbh i go 3x

i dont run stamina regen

[subtle sentinel]

Instead of toughness?

[analog ember]

i do all toughness personally

[subtle sentinel]

Ah

Toughness is still more useful I think

[stone fern]

3x hp 3x toughness and 2x gunner with 1 free

[subtle sentinel]

And stamina is great since no +Stam curios

[stone fern]

chainaxe has good stamina

if you wanna suffer run crusher or thammer

[subtle sentinel]

Nah I like fast weapons

And got a skin for chain axe lol

Looks great on zealot

Took it from a dead cadian

So many of them around

[stone fern]

🚬 we really need a talent to give base stamina for every missing wound

[subtle sentinel]

I am gonna keep these perks for now

See if I ever need hp

When I tried this on mortis

I was literally immortal

So stuck on what ranged to use tho...

Wish I could use hellbore

Bolter is soooo cumbersome

[grizzled aspen]

Helbore is actually more cumbersome than boltgun but ok.

[stone fern]

yee

helbore is still in the prepatch 13 days

sharp shooter gun XDDD

[misty ravine]

Bolt Pistol is good all round. Could give it Lethal Proximity to at least stagger crowds a bit for your chainaxe

[small kernel]

what are the advantages and disadvantages of running relic blade with flamer for havoc 40? i know duelling mk4 with flamer is ''meta'' but havent even used relic weapons since i came back to the game so would like to know whats good and bad about it

[subtle sentinel]

I have so much fucking stamina, man

[subtle sentinel]

Had an imperfect one, got max mastery, sold it

[hard nexus]

u have horde clear at the cost of a bit less single target from ds4

that’s really it

[small kernel]

how much a bit less to compare

and also i assume mobility

[hollow meteor]

about tree fiddy

[hard nexus]

yah

[hard nexus]

significantly less crusher killing potential

boss kill is still really good

but ur gonna suffer against crusher packs due to low attack speed

[small kernel]

do you purely use flamer during a horde in higher havoc if not and have to use duelling inbetween whats the hold/basic rotation for horde on it

as i even saw cleave dmg was dump stat in compendia for mk4 so i assume its cleave is bad?

[hard nexus]

yeah it’s cleave is bad

[hard nexus]

depends, if it’s just chaff or a few shotgunners u probably don’t need to use flamer

but if its a mix of crushers, bulwarks, maulers, ragers, etc

then use flamer

[small kernel]

i am not too used to playing with flamer as it really wasnt needed before havoc so its weird trying to play around ammo as zealot

i heard its ammo efficient tho

[placid fiber]

on higher havoc it can't cleave through 1 poxxer with lights

[sullen forge]

I saw this coming from a fucking mile away lmao

One of the unfunniest mfers out there just belly laughed and started clapping their hands like a seal at this

[subtle sentinel]

God I am sick of terrible randoms

How do u get wiped by 2 shotgunners

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1334710158525202443/99vpAu6.gif

[placid fiber]

get shot twice

[sullen forge]

Magic

[subtle sentinel]

And be blind

I died to a crusher while I had 1 HP it is fine

[runic grotto]

Will there actually be any consequences for naming a new arbites character Derek Chauvin? Like, can you get banned for it?

[placid fiber]

rule 101 of randos: Expect them to be mentally, emotionally, and physically handicapped

[runic grotto]

I don't know if fatshark does anything about these kinds of nicknames

[sullen forge]

They ban people named Hitler so like-

Give or take yes

[runic grotto]

Like a full on ban or just a name change?

[sullen forge]

If people report the characters name

Name change

Repeated offenses lead to actual ban

They keep track 🚬

[placid fiber]

What about if I get reported for "cheating" because I 1 shot the daemonhost?

[runic grotto]

Instant vac ban

[sullen forge]

I’ve been called a cheater once for

And I kid you not

“Sniping specials too quickly”

[runic grotto]

I think I've been called a cheater for quick scoping with revolver too

[placid fiber]

Wow...

[sullen forge]

I know…

[placid fiber]

I have yet to be called a cheater for killing specials quickly :\

[sullen forge]

I’m sorry I’m hacking with Veteran

😦

[placid fiber]

At least... not that I can remember anyway

[hard nexus]

yeah

[craggy skiff]

Aimbotting with a thunderhammer

[hard nexus]

one mag and u clear a wave

everything except for bosses and crushers

will be killed in a single flamer cylinder

[sullen forge]

Very balanced yes

[runic grotto]

Find yourself a rending trauma psyker and everyhing will be killed

[small kernel]

deamon host has such low hp you shouldnt even really need to hit the head

just hitting the back is enough

[runic grotto]

including crushers and bosses

[placid fiber]

If you don't have 10% weakspot damage/duellist/1 headtaker or sustained assault stack this ends up happening

[signal spoke]

How dare you steal their kills

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832082850916466718/1359202893609177188/sigmund_freud.mp4?ex=68349656&is=683344d6&hm=941d612e5e90f2d6407d346f70af926b68934db23385a593491bb9794bffbfd2&

[sullen forge]

Vigilant out performing them somehow btw

[signal spoke]

What is this cheating software you call mouse flick? What is this thing called social awareness and reaction

[small kernel]

i assume tree is same as the one you sent earlier today

[placid fiber]

Yep, with 25% unyielding t4 thrust and 10% weakspot damage on a perfectly rolled thammer

Also: I am a collector of sorts <.<

[sullen forge]

Evil ass Veteran that clicks on heads:

[signal spoke]

[placid fiber]

How dare you contribute to the team and make sure they don't get overwhelmed by specials! That is mean and inconsiderate of you!

[frosty herald]

gale resorting to using aimbot in a pve game

[small kernel]

wait, weakspot on the thammer rolls you mean? does it have to be head or does it count backstab as weakspot during shroudfield?

[placid fiber]

I am hitting the head in the clips

[sullen forge]

Round 50 on zombies using aimbot

SIGHHHHH

[small kernel]

i meant as in have you tried without hitting head

[placid fiber]

No, because without 10% weakspot damage/duellist up/1 sustained assault or headtaker stack it doesn't 1 shot them

[sullen forge]

Speaking of I need to play a match of Terminus

[subtle sentinel]

Martyrdom kinda sucks

Edging low hp is hard

[grizzled aspen]

Gid gud.

[placid fiber]

True

[runic grotto]

skill issue

[grizzled aspen]

People that think martyrdom sucks simply lack the skill to use it.

[subtle sentinel]

With chainaxe

[runic grotto]

Martyrdom is insane

[small kernel]

i love edging... wait what?

[subtle sentinel]

Chainaxe alone kinda sucks ngl

After using combat axe for a week

[grizzled aspen]

Dodges, yeah, otherwise, youre insane.

[subtle sentinel]

Can't just run into a horde and cleave them all

Smh smh

[grizzled aspen]

Chaxe has insane damage output.

[subtle sentinel]

I keep getting hit with it

[grizzled aspen]

Then dont get hit?

[subtle sentinel]

Against one guy yeah

[grizzled aspen]

Dingus.

[placid fiber]

They're comparing it to the broken weapon called the rashad caxe(when it was a 350 item rating for the chaxe)

[subtle sentinel]

No shit

[subtle sentinel]

When it is all you used, everything else feels shit

[grizzled aspen]

If you getting hit means a weapon is bad then I hate to tell ya that by your logic all weapons are bad.

[subtle sentinel]

When they don't cleave an entire horde with every light attack

[grizzled aspen]

Have you considered weaving pushes into your attacks?

[subtle sentinel]

No I don't get hit with Rashad cuz I either have more dodges or can just kill the guy

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah, so many push attacks

And heavies

[grizzled aspen]

🤔

[subtle sentinel]

I get hit mid charge or block gets broken

[grizzled aspen]

Then it isn't the weapon that is the issue.

[placid fiber]

uh... with marty even the mk12 chaxe mulches hordes my dude >.>

[grizzled aspen]

Common denominator is you.

[sullen forge]

Not everyone is that good……..

[subtle sentinel]

Well it didn't, so

[frosty herald]

chainaxe is pretty slow

[grizzled aspen]

Not sorry to say that, either. You are constantly shitting on good weapons regarding the wrong issues.

[frosty herald]

frog of all people saying this...

[grizzled aspen]

Chaxe has one issue and thats its dodge distance.

[sullen forge]

Truth Flood

[grizzled aspen]

It has insane damage output, a decent stamina pool, and has zero issues with boss damage.

[subtle sentinel]

And every light attack gets stuck to an enemy and fuck up my camera

[analog ember]

lol wat

[grizzled aspen]

Use heavies for mk4, dingus.

For mk12, use lights.

[placid fiber]

Uses heavies for hordes, dude, lights are single target on the mk4

[frosty herald]

wait thats a thing with chainaxe?

[subtle sentinel]

No shit, I spam light on specials

[frosty herald]

it revs on lights?

[subtle sentinel]

I KNOW

[grizzled aspen]

Mk4 has sticky lights.

[analog ember]

only on mk4

[frosty herald]

bleh

[sullen forge]

Ye with mk4

[subtle sentinel]

Push attacks run me out of stamina heavy attacks let me get hit mid charge

[grizzled aspen]

Mk4 is the icky sticky model that nobody likes.

[sullen forge]

Mk12 sticks with heavies

[placid fiber]

Are you using twbs?

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah

[grizzled aspen]

Have you considered pacing your dodges so you don't get hit mid swing?

[subtle sentinel]

It doesn't protect from block breaks

[sullen forge]

You’re

You’re blocking?

[grizzled aspen]

|| I'm about to snap and just say skill issue to everything. ||

[frosty herald]

the only weapon that suffers from block breaking is relic blade

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah, how else will you do the push attack?

[subtle sentinel]

So, nothing new?

[placid fiber]

This is the build bandit uses on the mk4 chain-axe, it might help https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93519a-afd0-40e7-ad7e-fce2e58fe30c/pro-autism-chain-axe-gun

[clever swan]

blocking isnt totally useless, sometimes you could block instead of using a dodge count

[frosty herald]

does it really come out that slow?

[sullen forge]

You only do it to do a PA every so often

[placid fiber]

not really

[sullen forge]

Never block to absorb attacks

[subtle sentinel]

It runs me out of stamina

[placid fiber]

If you are at 0 stamina you can get block broken before you get the push out

[frosty herald]

decided that i could block the captain overhead with a full stamina toughness bar

i was promptly downed

[subtle sentinel]

Brunt has a full slop shop smh

[sullen forge]

He promptly trolled you

[frosty herald]

now to be fair

captain fast attacks are perfectly blockable

[subtle sentinel]

FUCK

[sullen forge]

Captain Overhead:

[subtle sentinel]

I keep getting terrible bolters

60% collateral I am gonna go insane

[frosty herald]

thats good

[subtle sentinel]

That's abd

Bad

[frosty herald]

that a perfect roll lmao

[sullen forge]

That’s good

[subtle sentinel]

Thats not bolt pistol

[frosty herald]

you dont want collat on bolter

[subtle sentinel]

That's bolter

[placid fiber]

How often are you push attacking? Because if you are using heavies instead of just push attack spamming it shouldn't run you out of stamina that quickly

[subtle sentinel]

You don't want mobility

[sullen forge]

Zeal wants mobility

Vet wants collat

[frosty herald]

krait im gonna explode you with my mind

[subtle sentinel]

If it was bolt pistol, would have been perfect

[placid fiber]

bolter you dump collateral on zealot

[grizzled aspen]

Collar?

[clever swan]

now im not gonna say these people are never wrong

[sullen forge]

Behold the wonders of autocorrect

[clever swan]

but it seems silly to correct them all

when they tell you something together

[frosty herald]

imagine a melee weapon that charges up by blocking hits

[subtle sentinel]

Literally everyone else I have talked to said otherwise

[grizzled aspen]

This is actually doing worse for you than not replying.

[placid fiber]

Because they're making you build it towards opening a bulwark which if it is stagger immune YOU DON'T OPEN IT ANYWAY

in 1 shot less

[carmine falcon]

sm2 block

[placid fiber]

4 shots to open a bulwark is a waste of ammo

[grizzled aspen]

Everyone says to dump collateral on anything that has it. Vet is the exception because you can reach a stagger threshold vs bulwarks sooner and vet also runs pinning fire, which benefits from collateral.

[subtle sentinel]

Cool then I am keeping it

[ornate bone]

How good is the mk15 heavy chainsword compared to the mk4? Is it better in most regards?

[grizzled aspen]

Block in sm2 sucks so much ass I feel terrible using any block weapons.

[subtle sentinel]

80% damage 72% reload speed 66% stability 40% mobility 20% collateral

[grizzled aspen]

Mk15 evisc does a hell of a lot more damage than mk3 and is significantly easier to use. It's still not a great weapon, though.

[sullen forge]

You can tell who has and hasn’t committed to the bit with block weapons

[ornate bone]

Still very usable in havoc tho?

[subtle sentinel]

Is it better than caxe

[carmine falcon]

nah bro they're the best melee easily
The timing is super ez to get and 2 charges (enimies always attacks twice) lets u ONE SHOT anything or do an AOE stagger
u must have not played after they fixed block

[grizzled aspen]

I mean, I grinded through basically every weapon to get all the block ones out of the way. Having to block a tyranid warrior 6 times before I get a gun strike sucks.

[carmine falcon]

block weapons change the melee loop from farming gunstrikes to just nuking things

[ornate bone]

Yeah block used to be so ass ngl but now or atleast when I played after the buffs it received is very good

[carmine falcon]

i use block on every class except bulwark now

the dmg is just too good

[grizzled aspen]

Define "better."

[frosty herald]

imma be real with you chief

[sullen forge]

But but

[carmine falcon]

and block werapons always have better stats lmao

[frosty herald]

im doing block knife on sniper to nuke things

but its so fucking ass losing gunstrikes

[carmine falcon]

block knife on sniper is the way

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah the 4 target damage cap doesn't really matter much if you can't cleave that many enemies anyway.

[frosty herald]

going into camo is the only way i can make a block weapon work

[grizzled aspen]

And the rev heavies make quick work of captain shields.

[sullen forge]

It’s a hand held nuke if you can get used to not having gun strikes

[subtle sentinel]

Thanks I was gonna ask for the perks

[carmine falcon]

i got used to it tbh
i barely play sniper anyway

other classes benefit a lot from block

[ornate bone]

Gun strikes is cool and all but block allows to nuke groups or just flat out nuke single targets

[placid fiber]

but as you can see... the guide that ainz literally made for zealot said dump collateral

[ornate bone]

Hmmm so I should be using shred and wrath on it still or swap wrath out

[grizzled aspen]

Keep wrath.

[carmine falcon]

just play both

i like fencing on power sword and power fist
block on knife, chainsword and hammer

[grizzled aspen]

Once you get enough stacks you'll hit the 4 target cap.

[ornate bone]

Auto correct killing me rn

lol

[frosty herald]

i do quite like my balanced powerfist tho

[subtle sentinel]

That's 5 perfect ranged weapons now

[carmine falcon]

block power fist is peak too but the speed is awful

[subtle sentinel]

And 3 perfect melees

[grizzled aspen]

Block hammer though...

[sullen forge]

Incredibly defensive playstyle

[carmine falcon]

its twice

[sullen forge]

Wait for any opening

[carmine falcon]

and thats 1 attack

they always attack twice

[sullen forge]

Fucking orbital strike the enemy

[subtle sentinel]

Now what exactly do I do with chaxe for hordes

[carmine falcon]

speed 1 lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

Been playing modded sm2 because I wanted to play with a friend and honestly I don't think I'm ever going back to vanilla.

[frosty herald]

an enemy gets hit by powerfist charged heavy

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[grizzled aspen]

What model?

[subtle sentinel]

Uuh

4 I believe

[placid fiber]

mk12: light spam... mk4: heavy spam and push attack as needed

[carmine falcon]

the mods are gonna go crazy
ill switch to modded after im done with vanilla

[subtle sentinel]

I get hit during heavy attack charge

Even the shortest takes a while

[carmine falcon]

the only mods i go for now are just vanilla plus
i dont wanna change loop too much

especially since most mods just turn you into a primarch lmao

[placid fiber]

Are you only charging it when they are on top of you instead of starting the heavy as they approach?

[grizzled aspen]

4, heavies and push attacks every so often to stagger enemies and get some breathing room.

12, light spam for hordes, rev heavies for elites once it's safe to do so.

[subtle sentinel]

When they are all around me what else am I supposed to do

[placid fiber]

chastise staggers them btw

[grizzled aspen]

The first step to learning the combat of this game correctly is to be on the offense.

[placid fiber]

all the way up to maulers

[grizzled aspen]

If you wait to be surrounded before you start your attacks up, you will be at a disadvantage.

[carmine falcon]

anyone down for some sm2 here?

prestiging me assult

[grizzled aspen]

So before you get surrounded, you start a heavy up.

When you push, back up, get some space, start your heavy back up and let the enemies walk into it.

[ornate bone]

I semi like/dislike the mk13g idk like it feels like it’s good at times but at same time feels so weak lol

[placid fiber]

Seriously, tho, if you want to think less then just use the mk12 chain axe... it's literally the exact same attack patterns as the rashad combat axe... You can change a weapon's mark at any time in the mourningstar, as long as your mastery is a high enough level @subtle sentinel

[ornate bone]

Maybe heavy relic brain rotted my opinion on good damage and fast attacks

[carmine falcon]

relic my beloved

[grizzled aspen]

Light spam will mulch anything that isn't carapace and you can do chastise trick to do more damage than mk3 evisc.

Like mk3 evisc h1 rev + chastise trick does less damage than mk13 chord h1 rev + chastise trick.

It's really fucking sad.

[ornate bone]

Hmmm what’s the chastise trick? And is something I should be doing with the mk15

[grizzled aspen]

You should. It's rev, heavy, and just after the impact, chastise.

[misty ravine]

Chastise while sawing into the enemy

[grizzled aspen]

It applies the rending to your sawing rather than to the initial impact.

So you can decap crushers in less than a second.

Works for all chain weapons.

Chaxe, especially, will do some silly numbers.

[analog ember]

what build do you use for chaxe?

[placid fiber]

This is one of Bandit's chain-axe builds. Bandit was our resident mk4 chain-axe god before they got banned https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93519a-afd0-40e7-ad7e-fce2e58fe30c/pro-autism-chain-axe-gun

[analog ember]

shit looks cursed

but i'll try on my marty build

[placid fiber]

I mean... duellist reaches no meaningful breakpoints on that mk4 chainaxe build

[clever swan]

being banned is a badge of honor

especially if you come back

[subtle sentinel]

I tried, light doesn't hit hard enough to feel good

On mk12

I guess chaxe just isn't my style

Sad, I even got the skin for it

Neither is bolter, it is good but doesn't fit my zealot playstyle

I will try to get an evis

[placid fiber]

I mean what are the current stats on it? Do you have martyrdom buffs? Are you stacking headtaker and sustained assault stacks? All of this affects how well it performs

[subtle sentinel]

Yes.

It is just not my style

[placid fiber]

Eviscerator probably won't fit you either

[subtle sentinel]

I love spamming into hordes

Won't know until I try

I want a perfect one of every weapon anyway

[misty ravine]

You might like the Mk15 Evis then

[placid fiber]

50 50, they're going to be comparing it to a perfect rolled caxe

[misty ravine]

They love spamming into hordes, and the Evis needs to be spammed more to kill the same horde

[ornate bone]

I tried the mk3 and it felt so ass lol

[placid fiber]

I'm just saying since they've literally been comparing almost anything they've tried to a caxe at this point

[misty ravine]

Yeah, the weapon with no drawbacks versus the other weapons with at least nominal drawbacks

[placid fiber]

Some people just don't want to have fun

[analog ember]

ok wow yeah

chaxe on zealot vs vet is night and day

i guess martyrdom really can save any melee weapon

[misty ravine]

Can it save the Mk1 Declaw?

Or whichever is the especially ass one

[placid fiber]

This one

And probably not

That weapon is worse than than both the achlys caxe and the mk4 taxe

worse than the mk3 eviscerator

[subtle sentinel]

Is it my fault that the first weapon I found fun and tried playing is apperently the most broken as shit weapon in the game and makes everything else look unfun?

[placid fiber]

No, it's your fault for being so close minded for always comparing something to a better weapon and not trying to have fun with the weapon

but you do you

[misty ravine]

And I guess the Mk3 Evis needs Piety more since you're leaning on Perfect Strike for cleave and Rev+F for single target

[subtle sentinel]

I been using nothing but chainaxe for 3 days

It is not working, simple as that

[placid fiber]

and every day you've been bitching about how the caxe is better

[subtle sentinel]

Because it is.

[placid fiber]

putting 0 effort into trying to enjoy it