#zealot-class
heady rapids
@acoustic dune this is the guy i was talking about
fuck
what do......
discord please unshit yourself
since when does it not embed mkv
hollow dove
heck is up with my scoreboard mod. I've updated it as well as animation events and dmf
misty nova
Ok new VT2 map is cool-ish
Blighttown looking ass
Also forgot that the Loner VA is on this
Legit loner Jumpscare
bitter anvil
What modifier make you die without downed?
acoustic dune
<@273449982101553154> this is the guy i was talking about
blud is sending me virus
smh
misty nova
I also overdosed on Skulls
plush estuary
What modifier make you die without downed?
Havoc
misty nova
What modifier make you die without downed?
Hidden on havoc
plush estuary
havoc....
misty nova
Melee attacks apply corruption
bitter anvil
Hidden on havoc
Shit that’s big disadvantage
misty nova
Overhead = 2 wounds bye bye
bitter anvil
Just don't get hit
Easy for you to say
Try not get hit with thousand bullet shoot at you
analog ember
misty nova
Try not get hit with thousand bullet shoot at you
They nerfed the shooters
In comparison with Havoc 1
heady rapids
blud is sending me virus
acoustic dune
smh so true
pale spindle
Ainz how does it feel carrying everyone?
bitter anvil
Probably want your ass to carry them
bitter anvil
Hope he not ended up like ||Dorn||
pale spindle
Hope he not ended up like ||Dorn||
Impossible
winter oxide
Hope he not ended up like ||Dorn||
whos that
winter oxide
whatd he do
bitter anvil
Meanie
plush estuary
dont shame his name if you dont know him
pale spindle
Let me tell you the story of the Vet main known as Mr T
🧞
fossil crag
tanner did nothing wrong infact he saved ogryn 
plush estuary
he shaved opgryn
plush estuary
opgryn blad
bitter anvil
pale spindle
opgryn blad
If u said "Ogryn bald" I would have screenshot that
pale spindle
https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-fortnite-gold-scar-mysticl-kugel-gif-25745144953...
I'm chillin
misty mason
why would they not just put the skulls in all the missions
bitter anvil
misty mason
Why lock it in a mission type
pale spindle
why would they not just put the skulls in all the missions
Because fatshart
bitter anvil
Probably doesn’t want people speedrun in Seditions or uprising for event of 500 aqulias
misty mason
Ah yeah that makes sense
bitter anvil
I really want get event done and play other game
misty mason
Yeah I wish i could QP but only do event missions
I didnt even realise it was a mission type until I finished a mission and had no progress
bitter anvil
I pick either heresy or malice only
ornate bone
You guys all feel that zealot is prob the most difficult to play? Or psyker?
placid fiber
I would say it is more punishing on psyker if you make a mistake because as soon as your toughness is broken you immediately evaporate
pearl quest
Im starting playing Zealot what are like the best weapons for leveling since the beggining
placid fiber
Eh... anything works. You can use an autopistol if you have t4 inspiring barrage unlocked on it for another form of toughness generation
delicate shadow
You guys all feel that zealot is prob the most difficult to play? Or psyker?
psyker is the harder one to play in the sense that you can actually die
though any given AoE staff psyker build is very very braindead to play mechanically speaking
placid fiber
psyker also has the most op stuff going for them pretty much, between it and zealot
delicate shadow
flamer zealot even more braindead tbh
placid fiber
True, flame psyker just has the added bonus of managing peril instead of ammo
ornate bone
Yeah, I agree that Psyker is prob hardmode. That said, if you’re good at your kit, psyker can simultaneously be broken as hell if you’re on your A Game
carmine falcon
zealot is literally just getting good at the basics 
placid fiber
Psyker is be good at not fucking up
delicate shadow
managing peril is very easy tho
placid fiber
tell that to the rando psykers I get
plush estuary
Im starting playing Zealot what are like the best weapons for leveling since the...
Leveling is the best time to try every weapon
delicate shadow
yeah I mean a lot of the psyker playerbase is kinda dogshit at melee and peril management
placid fiber
"kinda" lol
delicate shadow
but that's not an aspersion on the power of the class
carmine falcon
at the game*
delicate shadow
zealots meanwhile have a high tendency to run off and die
placid fiber
but that's not an aspersion on the power of the class
Oh I know that, I've seen plenty of dogshit players on every class
rando zealot? runs off an dies
Us: runs off and the 3 randos die
carmine falcon
i'd say playing zealot is ez but being one of the zealots who press w+ and clear the entire room while never getting touched is not
source: zealots in my games
carmine falcon
bullied
placid fiber
So there is a reason to run that shovel over the folding ones...
ornate bone
Oh I know that, I've seen plenty of dogshit players on every class
Honestly, a lot of the times I don’t find skill even the issue. It’s just a matter of people who know to stick together or not.
Tbh I’m guilty of it. Sometimes if there’s a melee ogryn or another zealot, I’ll go run solo into gunner lines to kill them all before my group is shredded by gun fire.
But if I’m the only melee operative I try to stick close to then group as much as I can
delicate shadow
basically all the classes are equally easy and have equally busted shit going on
it's just the raw mechanics of the game itself that are difficult
placid fiber
basically all the classes are equally easy and have equally busted shit going on
Ogryn vs Zealot:
delicate shadow
like a lot of us in here would call the game in general easy but like, we're all fuckin sweaty nerds
carmine falcon
basically all the classes are equally easy and have equally busted shit going on
i wouldnt mind just making classes harder to paly if they ever wanna "nerf" without crippling the classes
would force me to stop being sloppy
delicate shadow
my lawyer has informed me to clarify that Jawa is in fact, not a sweaty nerd
placid fiber
like a lot of us in here would call the game in general easy but like, we're all...
It's pretty much like us ror2 pros... the default game is pretty easy for us people who have put in the work and have the skills to pay the bills. >.>
clever swan
(insert sweaty nerd meme)
violet hornet
delicate shadow
i wouldnt mind just making classes harder to paly if they ever wanna "nerf" with...
there's just a lot of nerfs needed across the board
carmine falcon
they'll get review bombed a 100%
delicate shadow
uncanny, plasma, golden toughness, ds4, aoe weapons, a ton of the new ogryn stuff and confident strike. just to name a few things
spare talon
carmine falcon
placid fiber
uncanny, plasma, golden toughness, ds4, aoe weapons, a ton of the new ogryn stuf...
what's funny is I was sleeping on confident strike before the ogryn update, on my shovel
misty nova
Good to see the punch buff
placid fiber
💯
north sedge
carmine falcon
no nerfs only buffs gang when they stop playing after a week because the game is too easy and the novelty wears off
clever swan
buff the enemies
clever swan
give em new abilities or moves, improve their strategies and movement, instead. much harder though from a design and development pov
misty nova
Don't mind some killing floor shenanigans
delicate shadow
making enemies harder is an option, I mean that's mostly what havoc and other modifiers do
but you can really only go so far with that until you end up with a shitshow that no one enjoys
enemies either become too spongy, or too damaging as a means to contain player power and it gets away from engaging gameplay
and it forces metas that get stale fast, current meta is already stale af
clever swan
if it's solely numbers then yeah it's cringe. but it could be uhhh the other word
fossil crag
Does anyone knoe how much the new class will cost 🤔
clever swan
mechanics vs numbers
clever swan
Does anyone knoe how much the new class will cost 🤔
12 real currency
fossil crag
Fair
clever swan
aka 12 usd
misty nova
Does anyone knoe how much the new class will cost 🤔
12 doubloons
north sedge
Make every enemy into chaos spawn (release version)
misty nova
40000 venezuelan money
clever swan
worse. dh
fossil crag
Dh dodgable though
clever swan
its aura isnt
north sedge
Yea og chaos spawn was actually a little saucy
fossil crag
Yea og chaos spawn was actually a little saucy
What did they change to the current one
plush estuary
make it easier
north sedge
Not as fast, easier to dodge his attack string
Used to leap around more maybe? Can't remember
tame sluice
I really don't like chaos spawn
The oversized grab hitbox and pushboxes on every attack feel awful to play against
delicate shadow
mechanics vs numbers
yee also an option but again, with the way the player-side of the game is rn you can mostly ignore any given interesting mechanic unless said mechanics are designed to ignore/negate shit like gold toughness and aoe damage
kind sierra
Is there any value in a thunder hammer that doesn't take thrust? I know 60% dmg is a lot, but I'm wondering how much relative dps I'd lose if I took a different blessing and spent that time swinging more often vs. charging up my heavies
grizzled aspen
The oversized grab hitbox and pushboxes on every attack feel *awful* to play aga...
If they got rid of the force field on it, it would be 100x more manageable.
grizzled aspen
Is there any value in a thunder hammer that doesn't take thrust? I know 60% dmg ...
Quite a significant amount, considering you lose breakpoints against ogryns and maulers without thrust.
delicate shadow
one way balance is simply never viable, you can never only nerf or only buff...you gotta like actually, well, balance things lmao
fossil crag
I really don't like chaos spawn
The only thing i like about it is that its like those sharks that gets rotated
tame sluice
one way balance is simply never viable, you can never only nerf or only buff...y...
If Helldivers players could read they'd be upset about you saying this
clever swan
yee also an option but again, with the way the player-side of the game is rn you...
maybe they could be. gunners could potentially do a special reload and thej shoot with bullets that tear through gold toughness and stops it from going up. lots of options I guess, just takes far more design and dev work than numbers, which is why most game difficulties are mostly just numbers
grizzled aspen
If Helldivers players could read they'd be upset about you saying this
Helldivers is really funny because it's like "bring an anti armor primary and a senator/talon or fucking die."
delicate shadow
I mean everyone gets upset about nerfs and hyped about buffs because that's what activates the neurons in the moment, but then you end up like warframe where the game literally can't do anything to you
tame sluice
Helldivers is really funny because it's like "bring an anti armor primary and a ...
I've been using none of these things against illuminate and doing fine
kind sierra
Quite a significant amount, considering you lose breakpoints against ogryns and ...
sad :(
tame sluice
Using Pummeler/Verdict with Incendiary Impacts
grizzled aspen
I've been using none of these things against illuminate and doing fine
Brother, I cannot kill an overseer for the life of me without medium armor penetration, at the very least.
delicate shadow
I still enjoy warframe as a fun brain off thing but it's definitely not a challenging game by any means, which is fine, but in something like tide games typically people at the endgame want to actually be challenged
tame sluice
They actually die faster to AP2 in my experience which feels weird
Especially if you target their arms
grizzled aspen
Like I threw down 20 bucks to get a few warbonds and the one red and black ump smg, starts with an R, quite good, but still needs like 7 headshots to drop an overseer.
tame sluice
Reprimand
grizzled aspen
Yeah.
tame sluice
also pretty sure Overseer heads are AV3
(medium pen)
so AP3 guns do half damage to their head
obsidian prairie
Headshots against them are a trap unless you have good pen
grizzled aspen
Overseers in general feel like they're tanks.
tame sluice
They also die fast to fire damage so the flamethrower primary/pistol are good into them
Or the Scythe/Dagger
grizzled aspen
Even with close range bodyshots you're still looking at 14 bullets.
Reprimand has, what, 26 per mag?
Not the greatest.
grizzled aspen
They also die *fast* to fire damage so the flamethrower primary/pistol are good ...
Not entirely practical.
Good luck lighting a jetpack overseer on fire.
obsidian prairie
I just erupt all over them and they go away
grizzled aspen
Isn't the eruptor the dominators cooler older brother?
grizzled aspen
Interesting.
obsidian prairie
Good luck lighting a jetpack overseer on fire.
tame sluice
Good luck lighting a jetpack overseer on fire.
uh
that's why I mentioned Scythe/Dagger
obsidian prairie
Interesting.
Except heavy pen but like thats a given
grizzled aspen
I bought the warbond it's from to get the grenade pistol so I can fight bugs better because grenade pistol oneshots the green fucks, so I guess I can pick up the eruptor too.
obsidian prairie
It 1-2 taps overseers, is good into trash with its AOE and shrapnel, kills discount chaos spawns in under a mag always, can kill harvesters with joint shots
Can shoot the strafing bastards if you're good at leading
grizzled aspen
I need to get the anti tank manned turret now that I'm thinking about it.
obsidian prairie
And infinite ammo if you take supply pack
grizzled aspen
Hate leviathans.
obsidian prairie
Hate leviathans.
Gatling barrage
grizzled aspen
Spear too slow and needs too much ammo to bring them down.
minor sigil
best not to bother killing them because they just respawn immediately on death
grizzled aspen
Idk about that.
tame sluice
Gatling barrage
how do you angle that
obsidian prairie
They also aren't terribly dangerous
grizzled aspen
Did an overship mission, we brought 3 down and didn't see another one.
grizzled aspen
Gatling barrage
That relies too much on your super destroyers angle and the pathing of the leviathan.
obsidian prairie
That relies too much on your super destroyers angle and the pathing of the levia...
It does work though
grizzled aspen
Never said it didn't.
Just saying that sounds like a terribly inconsistent way of bringing them down.
delicate shadow
my personal favourite strat is just letting super earth burn
obsidian prairie
Its not like taking down a Leviathan is an urgent priority, its something I do if I have the time and feel like it
obsidian prairie
my personal favourite strat is just letting super earth burn
Sadly its bugged and will never happen
grizzled aspen
Oh and my favorite thing so far is fleshmobs that get inside the ground.
Did a defense mission and we literally could not go down the stairs because there were around 12 fleshmobs just stuck inside the floor that would instantly kill us.
grizzled aspen
I know.
obsidian prairie
as long as you're ok with like 20+ civilian casualties
grizzled aspen
I use gas and incendiary mines, hmg manned turret, and tesla tower.
obsidian prairie
Just take 4 gas mines
grizzled aspen
I dont even bring a support weapon.
Hmg manned turret eats harvesters for breakfast.
obsidian prairie
HMG manned eats everything
grizzled aspen
Yeah but like, it's kind of a waste to use it on anything else for illuminate.
I'd rather burn my actual bullets on bringing down fleshmobs and overseers instead of hmg turret ammo.
Especially because hmg has like a 4min cooldown or whatever.
sullen forge
grizzled aspen
Anyway I'll see about getting the crispr for an anti overseer tool.
median steeple
meeeeeeeeee
clever swan
Sadly its bugged and will never happen
it's bugged? I've heard it's fixed (as in predetermined) but didn't know it was a bug.
obsidian prairie
I was making a joke
clever swan
me too perhaps.
"it's fixed, not a bug" but I dont mean fixed as in (dies from explaining the joke)
merry flume
The oversized grab hitbox and pushboxes on every attack feel *awful* to play aga...
don't forget the seemingly random aggro
ornate bone
So for combat knife….mk 6 believe…
The third power attack is the overhead stab which seems to do best damage for backstabs vs crushers and the like. Is there a way to spam that? Or are you stuck using the previous 2 slashes?
slate void
What's a good talent tree for Power Sword
winter oxide
push attack spam
misty nova
So for combat knife….mk 6 believe…
The third power attack is the overhead stab ...
Actually
Push attack spam is better
ornate bone
Actually
Push attack spam is better
I noticed push attack is pretty dang strong as well. Do you run a + stamina curio or pointless?
misty nova
It's an option 
winter oxide
???
clever swan
what you see is what you get with this one
delicate shadow
https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-13746396505480870613
ornate bone
Alright, push attack spam I shall try. Also, when you backstab crushers/bulwarks, is the back considered a weak spot?
I always wonder if I need to just hit square in the back or if I should aim for back of the head
tame sluice
Alright, push attack spam I shall try. Also, when you backstab crushers/bulwarks...
no
have to hit their head
burgle and chaos spawn have weakspots on their back though
clever swan
chaos spawn has two weak spots?
acoustic dune
https://fxtwitter.com/triumbrush/status/1923725713364107693?s=19
lack of ultimatum smh
tame sluice
chaos spawn has two weak spots?
It's more that you cna easily hit their head through their back
winter oxide
cspawn has a weird barrier around it for some reason
sterile stone
ornate bone
Anyone else been finding alot of matches with veterans who seem to be allergic to using their ranged weapons recently? Is there a melee buff/patch for them that went through or something?
ornate bone
I mean it’s actually a good thing since they don’t waste ammo all the time. It’s appreciated. Just something odd I’ve noticed!
grizzled aspen
Anyone else been finding alot of matches with veterans who seem to be allergic t...
For noticing this, there will soon be a surge of recon vets.
sullen forge
Im honestly super morbidly curious about how Day 1 #arbite-chat is going to handle itself come June 23rd LMAO
north sedge
grizzled aspen
Im honestly super morbidly curious about how Day 1 #arbite-chat is going to hand...
There will undoubtedly be a huge number of people that come in and shit talk people for buying the class.
clever swan
Im honestly super morbidly curious about how Day 1 #arbite-chat is going to hand...
zealot chatters will move in and the hoa will not be able to stop them from their antics
the real challenge is who will be the first post
modern lintel
real
copper hawk
https://fxtwitter.com/triumbrush/status/1923725713364107693?s=19
Oh my god i forgot about that
I saw this in a yt short
Signalis core animstio and
Wtf
Thanks autocorrect
Animation*
delicate shadow
Oh my god i forgot about that
ngl, number 5 got a good voice lmao
sterile stone
Im honestly super morbidly curious about how Day 1 #arbite-chat is going to hand...
Was that you with us?
copper hawk
ngl, number 5 got a good voice lmao
Troo
sullen forge
im the only vet I've seen so far named that
I've only seen an Ogryn named Siegfried
sterile stone
The level 1100 guy?
sterile stone
Yeah dat was u
sterile stone
I lost out on skulls man
copper hawk
That's a paddlin ,,
sterile stone
That damn disconnect
copper hawk
Almost have an all Dark Angels team
sullen forge
Almost have an all Dark Angels team
copper hawk
sterile stone
@delicate shadow When you gonna run some games with the boys
sullen forge
copper hawk
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-g%26b-roblox-roblox-memes-guts-and-b...
when the defense falls and the sapper is dead
copper hawk
median steeple
sclhoptua
delicate shadow
<@159521795853123584> When you gonna run some games with the boys
can do next week most days
copper hawk
median steeple
clever swan
how tf does some random roblox custom gamemode have a whole meme subset
delicate shadow
this weekend is reserved for me anniversary
sterile stone
can do next week most days
I've got until June 4th
copper hawk
how tf does some random roblox custom gamemode have a whole meme subset
Cuz it's peak
That shrimple
delicate shadow
the fook is happening on june 4th
sterile stone
this weekend is reserved for me anniversary
Congrats btw hombre
copper hawk
De kommer hjælp os
clever swan
That shrimple
copper hawk
Bereiten Sie die Verteidigung vor
sterile stone
the fook is happening on june 4th
delicate shadow
Congrats btw hombre
tyty, 4 years baybeee
delicate shadow
copper hawk
GOONE
AWAKENING
delicate shadow
north sedge
sterile stone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VOP6Cy4eI
The whole concept I love tho
It's a alternate universe paul is peering into
So the devs are given a ton of freedom
Gonna be grinding for trooper gear
delicate shadow
that's cool
I like the idea of paul malding at a universe he's not the perceived centre of and he can't do shit about it
sterile stone
It's gonna be great til a miss a anti grav grenade and a sword master send a flying knee to my face
sterile stone
I like the idea of paul malding at a universe he's not the perceived centre of a...
Honestly, learning bits about it from others is really cool
Cause like without paul
This massive never ending war kicks off
And at some point there's gonna be another faction that benefits from stoking the war more
And making sure neither side wins
And it slaps cause you can join them
delicate shadow
profiteering moment
yea I'm interested ngl, I had fun with conan exiles for as jank as it was
sterile stone
I like how they're handling the end game
You don't have to necessarily join a guild and go to war for a house
You can make a living as a spice farmer
Or you can make money as a cartographer
And sell maps to clans
PVP zone shifts and changes every week
So new maps are always gonna be a hot commodity
ornate bone
Any of you gonna be playing later tonight?
I have yet to play with anyone from the server. It would be Intersting to see how others play. Could learn a lot from people who are playing Havoc
ornate bone
I don’t either. I play damnation. I’ve done a few auric maelstroms as well
spare talon
profiteering moment
i think its interesting to think about at what point does something like a X media adaptation of a popular thing stop being a money grab
like what causes a game thats made from the remakes of dune not be something like a tie in just to make more money, but instead something that feels like it deserves to exist and having the name attached not be the only thing carrying it, or dragging the name down
sullen forge
Bereiten Sie die Verteidigung vor
Kavaleriya, ostorozhneye!
delicate shadow
You don't have to necessarily join a guild and go to war for a house
that's awesome
sterile stone
that's awesome
Yeah
I'm gonna end up waiting a bit to make a nice home
Gonna wait for the picasso's out there to offer up schematics for a house blueprint
delicate shadow
i think its interesting to think about at what point does something like a X med...
I think it's just a matter of the quality and passion behind the product
sterile stone
Some people out there building god damn castles in the sand
clever swan
i think its interesting to think about at what point does something like a X med...
passionate developers and such is a key thing. them having a vision is vital for a game to be seen as valuable . having known name developers also helps for a related reason
imo
delicate shadow
like you can look at shit like fortnite and all the crossover stuff is clearly money grab shit and no actual care
clever swan
if they just get hired to make a game and it's just a job then the game won't have the spark that people recognize and value
delicate shadow
like you can look at shit like fortnite and all the crossover stuff is clearly m...
whereas something like, say, vermintide is very clearly a passion driven project
spare talon
I think it's just a matter of the quality and passion behind the product
makes me think of the noodle video about the king kong ps2 movie tie-in game lmao
copper hawk
i think its interesting to think about at what point does something like a X med...
Era of the card game
Or mobile slop
delicate shadow
hell compare warframe and destiny 2, destiny 2 is full of cash grabs and the studio itself essentially sold its soul as it went whereas warframe, despite the monetization methods is clearly full of passionate developers
copper hawk
Only time a game tie in is any good from established media is if it's got like these 2 things
sterile stone
hell compare warframe and destiny 2, destiny 2 is full of cash grabs and the stu...
Funny thing about this is
delicate shadow
makes me think of the noodle video about the king kong ps2 movie tie-in game lma...
oh god I played that game, it was hot garbage lmao
sterile stone
We were just talking about Marathon and how it's tanking bungie
copper hawk
- It's made for kids/adapted from kid's media
- Made by some random studio, optionally their first video game
Battle for Bikini Bottom moment
spare talon
oh god I played that game, it was hot garbage lmao
its a 30 minute video talking about how good it is lmao
delicate shadow
it's kinda crazy how good a lot of spongebob games are
delicate shadow
its a 30 minute video talking about how good it is lmao
nooooo
it was jank as hell lmao
north plinth
I haven’t played in a while, does flamethrower still do anything
delicate shadow
We were just talking about Marathon and how it's tanking bungie
honestly it's bungie tanking bungie
they've been in a downhill spiral for years now
spare talon
its just bungie management
copper hawk
plush estuary
I haven’t played in a while, does flamethrower still do anything
still overpowered
spare talon
its always bungie management
copper hawk
Even the gameboy version has its own charm
sterile stone
We really need to move away from allowing executives dictate how a game should go and just trust in developer to apply their passion to the game.
delicate shadow
the king kong ps2 game was great in terms of VA and the set pieces
sterile stone
Man D1 was some damn good memories.
delicate shadow
the gameplay was very much not
carmine falcon
NGL i kinda miss crappy cheap movie tie in games that have no reason to exist like the million Harry potter ones, Matrix game and the wolverine game
sterile stone
NGL i kinda miss crappy cheap movie tie in games that have no reason to exist li...
Dead by Daylight is right there
clever swan
the gameplay was very much not
I thought it was pretty awesome, though awkward compared to most games at the time
delicate shadow
I had harry potter on gameboy colour, it was actually fun
carmine falcon
Dead by Daylight is right there
Haha NO
spare talon
the gameplay was very much not
this was one of the gameplay examples he used, more pointing to innovative gameplay, especially for a licensed game, at the time of release
clever swan
I should play Le king Kong game again to get a better opinion but it is a beloved game by many
spare talon
granted ive not played the game
i literally just have this video and your perspective to go off of lmao
sterile stone
Now and days it feels like every horror game is doing a collab with resident evil.
clever swan
I played it back then like 2006 and it was goated
carmine falcon
RE is one of the few horror series that sell huge numbers that's why
delicate shadow
granted ive not played the game
i literally just have this video and your perspe...
my POV isn't exactly reliable considering this would've been like almost 20 years ago lmao
delicate shadow
there were interesting mechanics but it felt very bleh in terms of movement and such
spare talon
the ps2 version could easily have been worse
he goes on and shows how future versions of this game were substatially worse
clever swan
is the pc version a future version?
delicate shadow
I don't think I hated it at all but was just like "this isn't the best thing I've played" lmao, or at least however middlingly critical 10 years old me could be
mind you this is the same year OG star wars BF2 came out, that shit consumed me
clever swan
I literally had the opposite opinion, though not that it was the best. though I probably thought of it as a rare amazing movie tie in gem
spare talon
there were interesting mechanics but it felt very bleh in terms of movement and ...
the video starts with the lead of the gow reboots totally glazing the hell out of it and quoting it as its inspiration lmao
clever swan
that actually makes sense lel
delicate shadow
I literally had the opposite opinion, though not that it was the best. though I ...
it's definitely the only game in that genre at the time that had any sort of redeeming qualities
bar was subterranean tho
delicate shadow
I remember playing it for everything but the actual gameplay
clever swan
I might be biased cuz i like dinosaurs
delicate shadow
actually scratch that, everything but the combat
ps2 version may have been uniquely shoddy in that regard tho
spare talon
"last i checked, 2k wrestling doesnt have a dedicated Grab Wife button"
i love noodle videos
sterile stone
ps2 version may have been uniquely shoddy in that regard tho
Nah man
One of the best ps2 games
Bully
sterile stone
I'm pissed because rockstar gutted the combat style the devs wanted to implement
clever swan
my favorite ps2 game was.......maybe Spiderman 2
delicate shadow
oh god I just remembered there was a PS2 version of CoD WaW and it was the WORST
delicate shadow
yea it did but there was a ps2 demo? version
clever swan
same thing happened to bf4
sterile stone
Bro I was so pissed that I found out you could play games online on the ps2 at the ass end of it's life cycle.
spare talon
oh god I just remembered there was a PS2 version of CoD WaW and it was the WORST
better than the wii one?
delicate shadow
it like wasn't the complete game, it was just a single player campaign with random pacific campaign and western front missions completely disconnected from the proper WaW campaigns
delicate shadow
my favorite ps2 game was.......maybe Spiderman 2
very fond memories of faceplanting off the empire state building
also very fond memories of getting ragdolled by train collisions
clever swan
the new Spiderman games scratched the same itch to a large extent. I binged them as a result
delicate shadow
I'd heard they were good
carmine falcon
Shattered dimensions and web of shadows were amazing
And the incredible hulk games
north sedge
Plus miles morales had a very funny antipiracy solution (that was accidentally going off on legit owners at launch)
clever swan
that didn't stop me (in Minecraft) it seems
sterile stone
And the incredible hulk games
Another banger was 007 nightfire
clever swan
but Spiderman 2 is like fucking broken (modern)
omg nightfire was goated, also one of my faves on ps2
sterile stone
Game was god tier
carmine falcon
Another banger was 007 nightfire
Yessss good game
clever swan
after playing Spiderman 2 modern for an hour my whole ass computer freezes. its tragic
carmine falcon
I think they fixed it a bit
clever swan
I updated it hoping itd fix it and it didn't
carmine falcon
It's really just the first mission that's fucked up with the sand lmao
clever swan
but I haven't played much since the most recent patch a few weeks ago so idk maybe they finally did.
for some reason basically no one online talks about the computer freezing crash
carmine falcon
I heard the port is disappointing so I held off
clever swan
on another note, for some reason the modern Spiderman games have a bug where some enemies become straight up invincible and must be grapple attacked/executed to kill
also!!@ if you had a certain rtx setting on the game would crash
carmine falcon
Don't remember that in Spidey ps4
clever swan
I experienced it in Spiderman 2, looked it up and saw a post about the same thing for the first game
carmine falcon
also!!@ if you had a certain rtx setting on the game would crash
Rtx is demanding af are u sure your gpu had enough vram
I played without it cause it bullied my gpu lmao
clever swan
Rtx is demanding af are u sure your gpu had enough vram
probably. I dont remember if I checked. but I think the rtx crash is fixed with updates cuz it doesnt happen anymore. I think it's the rtx reflections setting
usually if you run out of vram it more just lags unfathomably bad though
like Indiana Jones at high settings made my 12 GB 4070 ti scream and i had to dial back the settings
muted pike
What do we know about the new class aside from doggo?
clever swan
it will have unique weapons that no other class can use
but can use some of the other weapons, rather obviously
spare talon
What do we know about the new class aside from doggo?
you can pet it
slate void
He also gets floating loudspeakers apparently
rough dune
I hate when zealots panic and try to res other teammates instead of keeping themselves alive
sterile stone
What do we know about the new class aside from doggo?
The body cam turns off when he starts combat.
carmine falcon
He also gets floating loudspeakers apparently
They better be a feature
ATTENTION SCUM
undone pewter
I hope so
rough dune
The propaganda broadcasters are confirmed to repeat the Lex intimidation lines.
carmine falcon
DIE IN THE NAME OF THE LEX
slate void
Arbites & Zealot matches
Constant Non Stop Fanatical Ravings
rough dune
Arbites is more about the law though, moreso than the faith in the Emperor.
So it'll be more like turbo cop police brutality.
spare talon
The propaganda broadcasters are confirmed to repeat the Lex intimidation lines.
what are they
not versed in 40k stuff
misty ravine
spare talon
and how do you know they even say anything
sterile stone
I'm geniuenly curios what the hell the orb thing does
Like is it just another zealot book
delicate shadow
Arbites gains 400% dps vs jaywalkers
sterile stone
Does it suppress?
undone pewter
what are they
not versed in 40k stuff
The thing at the bottom middle I believe
carmine falcon
I asssooooome by intermediation lines he means something something attention scum something something die in the name of the emperor
spare talon
The thing at the bottom middle I believe
i meant the lines
i know what a nuncio aquila is
undone pewter
I mean of course you do you've used it :p
sterile stone
Arbites gains 400% dps vs jaywalkers
spare talon
I mean of course you do you've used it :p
i would need to get a mental health checkup if i didnt at this point
sterile stone
DID I JUST SEE YOU LITTER
rough dune
I don't know all the lines, but there's some thread on Reddit saying how they'll basic shout Lex codex and broadcast CC lines
undone pewter
i would need to get a mental health checkup if i didnt at this point
I mean you play darktide you probably need one of those anyway
delicate shadow
https://tenor.com/view/riots-cops-come-on-police-gif-17272820
rough dune
Supposedly canon with how they're described in the books
I don't know arbites well enough tho
Aside fromt he one arbites int eh Eisenhorn books
That is now Cherubael
RIP
rough dune
I just wanna say. i absolutely hate the thammer
delicate shadow
https://tenor.com/view/ryan-scott-i-don%27t-answer-questions-gif-426557927918151...
putting this in all fatshark FAQs from now on
spare talon
Deploy the Nuncio Aquila: Arbitrators bring new technology in the form of the Nuncio Aquila, anti-grav vox platforms that spreads propaganda overwhelming their opponents with fear of the impending voice of the Lex.
oh they actually do say it
rough dune
Yeah that
zinc talon
rough dune
I dunno the lines tho
rough dune
But its gonna be badass
spare talon
but nah they already said
rough dune
I think the Lex broadcast voice will be even cooler than what we heard in the cinematic trailer
zinc talon
WAIT. the mission fails if its just bots alive
rough dune
Yeah
zinc talon
what the hell just happened here
delicate shadow
i thought something leaked lol
weirdly enough DT has been mostly water-tight thus far
VT2 was actually pretty leaky
carmine falcon
> Deploy the Nuncio Aquila: Arbitrators bring new technology in the form of the ...
Holy peak just shouting imperial law at people lmao
zinc talon
noise marines already on the phone with their lawyers
rough dune
"TO DOUBT THE EMPEROR IS TO FORFEIT YOUR LIFE"
undone pewter
Holy peak just shouting imperial law at people lmao
I really wonder what it actually does
rough dune
Robocop stole from Dredd stole from 40k stole from RObocop
undone pewter
I'm guessing it's a debuff
rough dune
It's a circle at this point
sterile stone
> Deploy the Nuncio Aquila: Arbitrators bring new technology in the form of the ...
I'm gonna bet $5 there's gonna be a branching ability that applies buffs to teammates.
rough dune
Probably a debuff and stun/stagger
undone pewter
Reverse VoC
rough dune
Yeah
undone pewter
Or a
clever swan
I wonder if the dog can be set to protect someone
undone pewter
Ranged one maybe?
sterile stone
I wonder if the dog can be set to protect someone
Nah wrong mindset
carmine falcon
Robocop stole from Dredd stole from 40k stole from RObocop
Aebites are straight up a homage to Judge Dredd tho
undone pewter
I think they can do that on tabletop
sterile stone
I'm taking wagers to see if there's a penance for calling your dog to attack a pox hound
zinc talon
oh I just meant the dude's hemet vis a vis robocop
carmine falcon
I really wonder what it actually does
Makes them COWER IN FEAR
rough dune
But I think it's gonna be nice because I believe the vox caster is basically gonna be autonomous and can follow you around. so arbites should be able to fight while it's deployed unlike zealot book
So like you can deploy it and clear a path. I can see it being clutch in havoc
zinc talon
they have a lot riding on how the dog deals with damage and death
candid shuttle
Is Evis dump mobility or cleave
rough dune
Dump mobility
carmine falcon
Mobility
rough dune
Depends on the mark, tbh
zinc talon
^
the old evis's range on crit is like, a single point before you hit 60 or 70
sorry, on cleave
light strike cleave range for the whole s tat is like, 1.4 to 2.2
and heavy 2 is a single target overhead only
also:
candid shuttle
I just consecrated my evis and got perfect strike and wrath
Gah damn
That's nice
Carapace and flak perks
Not bad
carmine falcon
they have a lot riding on how the dog deals with damage and death
I'm actually hoping the dog is just extra and I can just be strong without it
I just want to play as an armored mf with shield maces and a super shotgun
zinc talon
remember though, the evis's swings are capped at 4 targets hit
clever swan
Nah wrong mindset
well, if not a long term protection at least wonder if you can tell it to go save someone or something
zinc talon
^that video shows my 1h chainsword unironically kill ten things in a single swing, no preparation needed
vs the evis being capped at 4 things hit
rough dune
I don't think the dog will do too much tbh. Like.. dog can't cleave.. can't handle multiple enemies. Seems like it'll be very focused on either priority targets or just passively guarding your back while you deploy shield and shoot ahead
heady rapids
I'm actually hoping the dog is just extra and I can just be strong without it
I ...
If it's like vt2 it's probably gonna do it's own thing in the background
sterile stone
well, if not a long term protection at least wonder if you can tell it to go sav...
Something that just kinda hit the noggin
carmine falcon
If it's like vt2 it's probably gonna do it's own thing in the background
Epic
sterile stone
I'm guessing the game is in a decent enough state we're getting new archetypes.
Makes you wonder
sterile stone
After x amount of class drops
zinc talon
it wouldn't surprise me if the dog is like that dude from the original borderlands
who had that hawk
sterile stone
Will the game become power crept by dlc classes
copper hawk
zinc talon
use the ability, dog c omes from around a corner and does its thing, then fucks off around another c orner
like the hawk did in bl1
heady rapids
I sure hope it does I'm paying 12$ for it
rough dune
Dog ability: hump Crusher to death in two pumps
heady rapids
use the ability, dog c omes from around a corner and does its thing, then fucks ...
definitely not
sterile stone
I sure hope it does I'm paying 12$ for it
Well the thing is aswell right
Darktide isn't liek Verm
heady rapids
they tested the waters in verm with sienna
zinc talon
well, 3 heroes got an extra class if that'sx what you mean
carmine falcon
Will the game become power crept by dlc classes
Balancing power creep is ez just make havoc even more bing bong wahooooo
sterile stone
Gonna have to keep added new things
heady rapids
had to fix some shit related to threat level even
carmine falcon
(that's what they're doing)
zinc talon
there will be no power creep when this class releases
rough dune
With 650 hours in this game, I've gotten my money's worth, and I don't mind shelling out more for a DLC that expands that
sterile stone
At what point would we hit a class that just completely breaks the balance of the game.
zinc talon
it will outdamage and outheal and outrescue and outcleave everything at debut
all new stuff does
heady rapids
darktide was never advertised as live service was it
rough dune
And honestly, the cosmetics in this game are way better than any other game I play
carmine falcon
Havoc irritation 5 the game will just be path of exile
delicate shadow
At what point would we hit a class that just completely breaks the balance of th...
we already did with all 4 classes in patch 13
sterile stone
we already did with all 4 classes in patch 13
Fair
sterile stone
darktide was never advertised as live service was it
It's a live service game
zinc talon
weapons, abilities, then they rein it back in after a couple weeks pending playerbase feedback
delicate shadow
hell the fuckin ogryn rework is the most recent example tbh
sterile stone
If the servers go off, you can't play the game anymore.
sterile stone
sullen forge
https://youtu.be/8TNMsUnIXAE?si=s77FQw04ERSKtSLG
Literally listening to Dale crash out
heady rapids
you can't be sure about that
fatshark has yet to close a game
zinc talon
sidebar: have any of yall experienced this in FW
copper hawk
Literally listening to Dale crash out
It's peak
carmine falcon
hell the fuckin ogryn rework is the most recent example tbh
I genuinely think they'll just keep buffing and compensating with more stupid spawns at this point cause nerfs = review bombs
sterile stone
you can't be sure about that
fatshark has yet to close a game
That doesn't make it any less true though just because it hasn't happened yet.
spare talon
cica did you see the video i made earlier
zinc talon
well, it's easy to feel like it's a dick move and/or punishment
I mean you're right, but people gonna people
clever swan
if only they could increase enemy count. I think theyre sorta at the limit of the consoles and most pcs
copper hawk
Balancing power creep is ez just make havoc even more bing bong wahooooo
We wil lbalance for malice
sterile stone
sidebar: have any of yall experienced this in FW
Thankfully no
delicate shadow
balancing really should just be done around auric damnation and call it a day
zinc talon
if only they could increase enemy count. I think theyre sorta at the limit of th...
you don't think this would lead to runaway cleave requirements
delicate shadow
havoc should never be the baseline
sterile stone
havoc should never be the baseline
zinc talon
I remember a while back someone explained the enemy engagement system a bit
there can only be 8 things on you at any given time
copper hawk
Why couldnt we get a ratling arbites
Abhuman
plush estuary
there can only be 8 things on you at any given time
slot system
sullen forge
carmine falcon
We wil lbalance for malice
I need to find malice players and forcefully inject them with dopamine cause wtf are they doing there bro 🥀
delicate shadow
Why couldnt we get a ratling arbites
ratlings have been a no-no for ages because maps aren't built for peeps that short
zinc talon
and I want to say that's some sort of hard stop with the code or game me chanics or something
copper hawk
Munistorum sanctioned specism
heady rapids
balancing should be done around patch 13 veteran
zinc talon
slot system
yes
sullen forge
me millionth ratling theory
sterile stone
havoc should never be the baseline
A bunch of tryhards reading that and actively shitting themselves in anger.
clever swan
slot system theory
zinc talon
I don't think they can put more enemies in, without them just standing around you waiting for their slot to start actual combat
copper hawk
Idk y ppl like ratlings so much
delicate shadow
A bunch of tryhards reading that and actively shitting themselves in anger.
nah I mean like, they can claim to be tryhards but tryhards actually worth their salt wouldn't argue in favour of powercreep
clever swan
im more of a felinid head myself
clever swan
but felinids probably aren't cute cat girls so maybe im wrong
sterile stone
nah I mean like, they can claim to be tryhards but tryhards actually worth their...
Strange crowd out there now and days
You know that as well as I do
delicate shadow
...painfully
copper hawk
Beastmen r cool too
sterile stone
Dude seeing this same argument but for different games
sterile stone
Really puts it into perspective.
zinc talon
still, though, yknow my recent quickplays and rando groups have all been just fine regarding the players
plush estuary
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ztpxnj9aA Jsat is goated with indepth explanation
spare talon
havoc should never be the baseline
with arbites iirc first step was auric damn, then havoc once damn felt right
once he was good in auric damn, looking at havoc was "if he isnt good/is too good here, why and how can we fix without breaking damn"
heady rapids
bring back weaves
bring back enemies one shotting you
bring back people clipping through maps on hm just to brag about their completions online
carmine falcon
I actually like the power fantasy but I also hate dying to 20 bulwarks because I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT
zinc talon
have the quality of yalls games' been slipping you feel like?
I dunno the last time I ran into a proper saltboi or tryhard that didn't just rage quit on ko
sterile stone
bring back weaves
bring back enemies one shotting you
bring back people clippin...
You ever been dropped off in the middle of the ocean with just a floating vest?
delicate shadow
bring back weaves
bring back enemies one shotting you
bring back people clippin...
genuinely the worst thing ever added to VT2
zinc talon
I feel like
sullen forge
bring back weaves
bring back enemies one shotting you
bring back people clippin...
So havoc but make it even harder
zinc talon
if I answer that it's gonna lead to more, worse questions
sullen forge
and I really mean make it harder
heady rapids
next dlc after arbiter is gonna be a paid difficulty
heady rapids
just 19.99$
sterile stone
genuinely the worst thing ever added to VT2
So that's something that kinda does get the gears turning.
copper hawk
Chaos Wastes are peak
zinc talon
makes me a tiny bit sad I didn't get to see that huge step up to the game but I was already over it playin other stuff
delicate shadow
chaos wastes was actually good, it's still ok but they changed up a bunch of shit and made it worse
sterile stone
Like at what point if ever does havoc become the bar?
zinc talon
god I hope never
heady rapids
lmao I remember watching aqshy stream vermin with viewers
zinc talon
havocs are mostly just stressful without feeling rewarded afterwards
sterile stone
It might have to at some point if they're gonna keep adding more classes
zinc talon
I haven't had fun playing them
heady rapids
someone joined and they couldn't play cause the dude didn't have cata!!!!
copper hawk
Stressful unless ur playing Ogryn
heady rapids
copper hawk
Then it's a power fantasy
delicate shadow
I did a duo with aqshy back in the day and she forgot to ring the bell to get out of the end event on hunger in the dark
zinc talon
oh yeah? even at the top tiers?
zinc talon
on debut it was absolute hell cuz of our size and the ranged damage
copper hawk
All slap only ogryn is possible on h40
zinc talon
couldn't even think of not bringing a shield
copper hawk
Ainz did it
sterile stone
Like my concern isn't now, but down the line.
zinc talon
heh yeah saw that one
sterile stone
Unless fat shark add another difficulty spike.
sullen forge
Ogryn rework is ludicrously strong
sterile stone
For god knows why
copper hawk
I did my first h40 first try w ogryn
sullen forge
Paired with Confident Strike also
copper hawk
Kars hh ogryn
zinc talon
heady rapids
can we haveeeee uhhhhh paid weapon mark packs
copper hawk
I was the only one to not die
sterile stone
can we haveeeee uhhhhh paid weapon mark packs
copper hawk
And I clutched the match at the beginning when all our psykers folded to two crushers
zinc talon
I wouldn't be able to use em
sullen forge
im fine with a class
copper hawk
Ogryn is a blast in h40 now and then
sullen forge
im not fine with a weapon
zinc talon
cuz evberyone who didn't buy the weapon would get all shamey and judgey when I brought it
copper hawk
So many enemies, so much enemy hp
carmine falcon
Unless fat shark add another difficulty spike.
Don't think they need yet another diff
Just make elites actually threatening without summoning them in 100 packs
Idk how to do it cause I'm not q dev but they can figure it out
copper hawk
HH wet dream
sterile stone
I'm reminded of someone that stun locked a DH by slapping it to death
heady rapids
hunting horn
copper hawk
U feel like an Ogryn seein the lil uns struggle and ur taking no damage
Cleaving 8 enemies and killing 3 in a swing
sullen forge
Don't think they need yet another diff
Just make elites actually threatening wi...
more health, hit mass, faster attack speed
thats like 3 things I can name off the top of my head
sterile stone
Don't think they need yet another diff
Just make elites actually threatening wi...
You're gonna enjoy your gunners only modifier
sullen forge
Crushers instantly killing you like in havoc
sterile stone
And you're gonna smile when you play it
zinc talon
I'm reminded of someone that stun locked a DH by slapping it to death
lol sheesh I musta missed reading that chapter, the only stun I ever saw was the one-button-boss-kill devil's claw riposte or whatever it's called
copper hawk
I use the brittleness aura build cole gave me
heady rapids
make them unreadable and unreactable
clever swan
when darktide 2 comes out and if some of us are still here then we'll be looking back at the 12 dollar class wishing itd come back (classes will be 40 usd)
heady rapids
and make them one shot you
carmine falcon
You're gonna enjoy your gunners only modifier
I will alt f4
copper hawk
lol sheesh I musta missed reading that chapter, the only stun I ever saw was the...
The stun with the punch on Ogryn still works
On bosses
sterile stone
lol sheesh I musta missed reading that chapter, the only stun I ever saw was the...
I mean if you're so inclined
sterile stone
You can go hunting through old posts
You're gonna be a while
But it's there
Somewhere
copper hawk
Iirc it's the only stun lock in the game
heady rapids
darktide updates in 2026: gunners can now sprint and shoot
zinc talon
oh that's right it was you, or your mission or something wasn't it
copper hawk
That you can repeat indefinitely
sterile stone
darktide updates in 2026: gunners can now sprint and shoot
See now I'm thinking vet won't get a hotshot las gun or melta
And it will be relegated to a new class
carmine falcon
darktide updates in 2026: gunners can now sprint and shoot
Gunners will kill you in real life
zinc talon
darktide updates in 2026: gunners can now sprint and shoot
gunners can use cyberpunk skills and ricochet t heir shots off of w alls and corners to hit you
heady rapids
getting stunned inverts your controls and disables your hud
wary finch
flamers now make you spontaneously combust irl
zinc talon
they pull toughness and reintroduce temporary health
heady rapids
havoc 50 will throttle your cpu
copper hawk
Zealot rework: nerfed crits by popular demand, we buffed nothing, felt second wind was too strong and we've reduced it 2 be jn line w other tness options at 2.5% on dodge
carmine falcon
Fuck it ALL GUNNERS
zinc talon
Zealot rework: nerfed crits by popular demand, we buffed nothing, felt second wi...
and also your shoulder clips through your weapon sight when you ADS
delicate shadow
they kinda need to normalise baseline tness talents at 5% tbh
heady rapids
smite VFX will be reverted to its p13 state
copper hawk
- tness from hitting an enemy once with a high attack speed weapon
sterile stone
Fuck it ALL GUNNERS
New modifier: Mutant grabs now apply a temporary bleed and slow effect on players.
spare talon
Zealot rework: nerfed crits by popular demand, we buffed nothing, felt second wi...
i think you are unreasonably doomer about the zealot rework
zinc talon
I love my big toughness on hit and at this point I can't tell tone of voice anymore
copper hawk
I am maximally doomers
heady rapids
New modifier: Mutant grabs now apply a temporary bleed and slow effect on player...
that's a good one but I think what we need is coordinated mutant+crusher strikes
zinc talon
I really like getting large chunks of toughness from well timed hits
carmine falcon
New modifier: Mutant grabs now apply a temporary bleed and slow effect on player...
Mutants throw you off ledges
Fuck u player
zinc talon
cuz you can top up and be soaking hits you'd otherwise have to back off of
delicate shadow
he maybe zealot will go in the direction of the ogryn rework and ascend to sainthood power levels
sterile stone
Mutants throw you off ledges
Fuck u player
I think it was Josh or Laz, but they got thrown through the stairs off the map by a mutant grab a long time ago.
copper hawk
The misinformation about the functionality of Zealot, their strengths, and fundamental gameplay and data realities of the classes and zealot in particular unknown by some playtesters (not u) along with people who should know better makes me absolutely certain it'll be for the worst
copper hawk
At best, we'll be weaker than current Vet but in our niche
copper hawk
Yeaaah !
sullen forge
its good for the game
copper hawk
Yeah !!!!!!!
carmine falcon
Ok jokes aside I love the power fantasy I just wish the games idea of difficulty wasn't 100 crushers and 100 bulwark punishment packs
sterile stone
Battery got reconnected
zinc talon
I mean even at my biggest it's just 15 toughness for each heavy and 5 for lights
sterile stone
Laptop gamer
heady rapids
deserved for playing ogryn
zinc talon
and then the normal amount if I kill em
carmine falcon
Beautiful
delicate shadow
game's idea of difficulty being that is purely because of how powercrept we are nowadays
it never used to be that way
zinc talon
do other classes besides ogryn have toughness regen on hit, or does zealot really only have the toughness on successful dodge
copper hawk
Back in the day
delicate shadow
alas, alack
copper hawk
When armor meant nothing
heady rapids
remember old darktide when everyone complained about vets not killing shooters
copper hawk
And enemies had less hp
sullen forge
The two classes I can confidentally say are in a weird spot are Zeal and Veteran cause of their extremely taxing trees or forced "You will X ability and you will be happy"
copper hawk
And every1 had a damage capped wpn..
heady rapids
and everyone ran infantry las
sterile stone
remember old darktide when everyone complained about vets not killing shooters
I still remember endless hordes as a modifier
sterile stone
and everyone ran infantry las
Kant12 with infernus was the dukes back in the day
heady rapids
I still remember endless hordes as a modifier
I still remember it as a bug from 2024
zinc talon
The two classes I can confidentally say are in a weird spot are Zeal and Veteran...
ogryn feels the best it's ever been
delicate shadow
like DT is in a better spot now than on release for sure, the skill trees made the game feel way more interesting and the addition of stuff like auric, havoc, mortis etc. is overall a good thing
sullen forge
Yeah cause you can actually play anything on Ogryn
zinc talon
even on a tough loss it still feels rewarding to play okri
sullen forge
its the same with Psyker they just bitch about their pathings for some reason
zinc talon
yep they've finally viable-ilized all the gear
spare talon
ogryn feels the best it's ever been
because its past where its best should be
heady rapids
buff psyker
zinc talon
except maybe the krork cleaver
delicate shadow
the game's balancing just lends itself to creating unfun scenarios a la rumbler spam and shit like that
copper hawk
Omg
zinc talon
because its past where its best should be
I can't help but think you m ight be right
sterile stone
Yeah cause you can actually play anything on Ogryn
I'm gonna keep petitioning for them to make demolition team a team wide trait again til my demands are met.
copper hawk
Doooont get me started on Rumbly Tumbly
heady rapids
except maybe the krork cleaver
Is it the one with the shitty moveset
zinc talon
the single most powerful ability they've ever given us is ragdoll-on-dodge
my god what a comeup
wary finch
except maybe the krork cleaver
Krourk twink stubber buff
Thing's still a piece of shit even with Ogryn's temu deadshot talent
sullen forge
the game's balancing just lends itself to creating unfun scenarios a la rumbler ...
You dont understand how mentally detiorating it is trying to sharp shoot important picks as Vet and just getting cucked by an Ogryn spamming a rumbler at the ground and turning the game off for 80% of the match
sterile stone
the single most powerful ability they've ever given us is ragdoll-on-dodge
You're just a giant bowling ball now.
zinc talon
I can run outta stamina, spin to the side, and sidestep into the crowd that just broke my st amina
heady rapids
I'm gonna keep petitioning for them to make demolition team a team wide trait ag...
checks notes
now grants throwing blades, rocks and assail shards
zinc talon
CC half of em and sidestep the rest
delicate shadow
I can't help but think you m ight be right
he's 100% right
people really fuckin' oversold how weak pre-rework ogryn was and post-rework is currently the most powercrept thing in the game rn
sterile stone
*checks notes*
now grants throwing blades, rocks and assail shards
Nah, the main gripe was it allowing ogryns to just regen nukes for free
copper hawk
Despair
spare talon
the government doesnt want you to know this but the stagger taunt cdr counts every individualy enemy you stagger with dodge as a proc
zinc talon
it's the ragdoll on sidestep
ornate bone
What blessings are people running on relic sword? Bc I’m using energy leak and rampage but I wasn’t sure if there was a better combo to use
heady rapids
we all play taxe sorry
spare talon
What blessings are people running on relic sword? Bc I’m using energy leak and r...
outside of havoc
rampage cranial
copper hawk
Ragdoll on dodge - cool and good
zinc talon
rampage didn't feel so useful to me depending on which mark you enjoy, stab sword or non stab sword
copper hawk
Holy Revenant - toxic and evil. Kill it now !!!!!
ornate bone
outside of havoc
rampage cranial
But in havoc energy and rampage?
zinc talon
cuz its light attacks were its cleave cc
sullen forge
Ragdoll on dodge - cool and good
Screwing over human classes in horde scenarios
dont forget that
zinc talon
and damage falloff meant it didn't really add much
spare talon
But in havoc energy and rampage?
wrath rampage
sullen forge
Fun fact, got barreled off the map from that, as vet
copper hawk
I stay away from Ogryns now
sullen forge
im being dead serious
copper hawk
Theyll dodge towards me in melee and I'll be like
Bugged in a ragdolling enemy
That's laying on the floor
jagged cradle
What’s overpowered about the rumbler anyway
sullen forge
That's laying on the floor
Sudden 80 poxxers eating your ankles
copper hawk
And take tons of damage or cant dodge and get fucked up bad
copper hawk
Infinite cleave
heady rapids
What’s overpowered about the rumbler anyway
too fun to use needs a nerf
carmine falcon
the game's balancing just lends itself to creating unfun scenarios a la rumbler ...
I think it just dumps the game down a bit cause u can crutch on 10 billion things so misplays go unpunished
They could still maintain the power level but make playing the classes harder? Idk how tho I just like talking outta my ass
copper hawk
Knocks enemies over
hollow meteor
It rumbles and enemies tumble
copper hawk
Can be built to be spammed
jagged cradle
Infinite cleave
Oh cringe !!!
copper hawk
It's smite but can wipe screens
zinc talon
I stay away from Ogryns now
copper hawk
So Cica what you do right
What I do is leave lmfak
delicate shadow
I think it just dumps the game down a bit cause u can crutch on 10 billion thing...
well yeah I agree, main thing needed is nerfs to the stuff that makes it impossible for the game to keep up/punish players
copper hawk
Join match
sullen forge
the melee one
sullen forge
and you simply never run out of ammo
copper hawk
Leave
sterile stone
I think it just dumps the game down a bit cause u can crutch on 10 billion thing...
The thing is right, you have to make a class worth purchasing so it's gotta have some heft to it.
copper hawk
That shrimple
sullen forge
See rumbler/kars
🗣️
copper hawk
I leave when i see these
sullen forge
You know whats depressing
delicate shadow
like players can remain plenty powerful with golden toughness being removed from the game, stuff like that
spare talon
Ragdoll on dodge - cool and good
its too good
but there had to be some way to make ogryn dodges not terrible, what with how combat and specialists generally played out
#1 thing we wanted was to actually give them dodge linger, yknow the thing that makes dodges functional for every other class
but that was shot down and replaced with a more ogryn way of better dodges
daring mango
Does anyone have advice for the penance, "Shocking Stuff"? I'm losing it over here lol
copper hawk
Purg/ds, plasma/ds, ds/flamer, rumbler/kars
sullen forge
I no longer view DS Zealots or Plasma vets as annoying
sterile stone
The levels of heft though is a complete toss up given the game's current meta.
heady rapids
Does anyone have advice for the penance, "Shocking Stuff"? I'm losing it over he...
use flamer
sterile stone
Kind of
zinc talon
well yeah I agree, main thing needed is nerfs to the stuff that makes it impossi...
what's the problem with just raising enemy hp etc numbers instead of deliberately taking someone's equipment and making it suck
copper hawk
its too good
but there had to be some way to make ogryn dodges not terrible, wha...
How dare y
U
zinc talon
hell divers has done that to great effect, with its no-gimping-when-rebalancing thibng
copper hawk
Ur input being shot down
wary finch
Does anyone have advice for the penance, "Shocking Stuff"? I'm losing it over he...
Damnation mortis and kite like a motherfucker
Its how i got mine last week
sullen forge
The levels of heft though is a complete toss up given the game's current meta.
its kinda why I've been saying Ogryn kinda just fills Zealots and Veterans role way fucking better
copper hawk
De kommer HJÆLP OS !!!!
sullen forge
why Zeal or Vet when ogryn does it better
delicate shadow
what's the problem with just raising enemy hp etc numbers instead of deliberatel...
you end up with bullet sponges and weaker gear becomes weaker while meta shit becomes more mandatory
copper hawk
Omg if the zeal rework gets rid of holy rev and undying
heady rapids
Why should I try this class over this one
I wish I could say that people play games for fun but I know for a fact some people don't even have 4 chars at 30 and you're right
copper hawk
Im gonna crashout
sullen forge
Omg if the zeal rework gets rid of holy rev and undying
it probably will
copper hawk
(Uninstall and break the cycle of abuse)
sullen forge
I'll be honest
zinc talon
I wish I could say that people play games for fun but I know for a fact some peo...
I have never played a single game as a veteran
carmine falcon
well yeah I agree, main thing needed is nerfs to the stuff that makes it impossi...
I have the opposite issue in two of my most played games
In deep rock my issue is that I have like no health on Maxx diff and armor might as well not exist so you have to move PERFECT
DT on the other hand I feel like I get away with waaaayyyyyyyy too much nonsense lmao
Both amazing games still but yeah
sullen forge
you'll get like a bunch of cool things in return but those extremely strong talents are bound to get nuked
daring mango
Damnation mortis and kite like a motherfucker
Its how i got mine last week
thanks ill try this!
delicate shadow
I've been doing balancing shit for VT2 for years now and DT stuff since...well before release lmao
I know a thing or 2 even if the rotund shark doesn't always listen.
copper hawk
you'll get like a bunch of cool things in return but those extremely strong tale...
We lose our class identity
wary finch
thanks ill try this!
Use flamer like other dude said
Its ur best bet on it too
copper hawk
Just become a worse Ogryn
heady rapids
I have the opposite issue in two of my most played games
In deep rock my issue ...
You can just spam dash and bunnyhop anyway tbh
copper hawk
The biggest issue w Zeal balancing/reworks is making Zeal distinct from both these classes
sullen forge
Just become a worse Ogryn
Im there with you brother
daring mango
use flamer
thank you!
zinc talon
sterile stone
I wish I could say that people play games for fun but I know for a fact some peo...
As absolutely tragic as this is going to sound, people treat this game like it's some competitive dick measuring contest. So there's always going to be a sect of people that want some form of bragging rights'/superiority over the masses.