zealot-class

[lucid nest]

i agree with that.

[north sedge]

you shouldn't be spamming the special on crusher

[ornate bone]

At least I think it would be?

[analog ember]

no need on crusher

[ornate bone]

Prob just for the big guys I’m guessing

[long oasis]

nope

[north sedge]

not really

unless there's a ton of em for stagger

[ornate bone]

Ahhh I gotcha. I hear crusher is good times.

Now that said, am I on the right path/idea to use BP for knife over IJ?

[north sedge]

main use of the special is stagger, save for the light special which will infinite cleave on trash

[plush estuary]

And PA for single target

[analog ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1369536338088558682/image.png?ex=6830a6db&is=682f555b&hm=80ad45bfb390a85c47a1ed8528705b8a008bcad9d96d5184b5d715b5362cc5ab&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=989&height=1118

[ornate bone]

I’ll have to try out the crusher soon. I may delete one of my inferior operatives and make another zealot.

[north sedge]

there's a crusher guide in the pins that's very in depth

[ornate bone]

lol. It’s true. I love my martyrdom build

[modest crow]

I love that Henry is a gamer like us it's amazing

[lucid nest]

I guess it perhaps to do with the way i play. I usually like weapons that are really good at 1 thing and then i cover them with the ranged weapon

[analog ember]

and he'd be a martyrdom chad

[modest crow]

Yep

[lucid nest]

i prefer a weapon that is goated at hordes and then use the gun to deal with big targets

or vise versa

[north sedge]

what if the crusher just does it all

[lucid nest]

It does everything kinda shit

[ornate bone]

I fee that. The idea of using multiple weapons to handle all threats.

[lucid nest]

you dont one shot most horde monsters so you kinda need to swing twice or trice with a slow weapon

and big targets take still like 5 or 6 hits

i just always feel like im getting held back with it

i can use a slicey sword and just cut down everything in 1 slice

[north sedge]

you're just spamming aren't you

[placid fiber]

That sounds like a "you don't know what you're doing with it" kind of thing

[ornate bone]

What about crusher…on martyrdom

[north sedge]

crusher works on anything basically

[lucid nest]

and then switch to gun to take out bigger targets

[placid fiber]

Like... what blessings do you even have on it?

what dump stat?

what perks?

[plush estuary]

Taleants

[placid fiber]

what build?

[plush estuary]

Talents

[lucid nest]

I dont have it anymore i couldnt get it to make it work i tried a bunch of things and it just never felt good to me

[north sedge]

5-6 sounds like light spam

[lucid nest]

i ended up selling it

[placid fiber]

5-6 sounds like you don't know what you're doing with it, tho

[lucid nest]

I honestly got it from the video

[analog ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1307086473140506674/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.15_-_15.46.15.01.mp4?ex=6830e0a3&is=682f8f23&hm=874960bb87910d7d2aeb2c3df3571bd29274c0958dafe8d75ed83a1427b737a4&

[lucid nest]

took him 5 hits to take a crusher down

Thammer can do it in 1

[analog ember]

uh

so?

thammer is a way worse weapon everywhere else

[placid fiber]

And? One is a single target weapon, one is a combo weapon

[lucid nest]

yah and i use a gun for that

[analog ember]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-senju-gif-13079766

if you want a gun to kill crushers

play vet

and if you're using a gun to horde clear

[lucid nest]

I run my thammer with a braced auto gun

[opal solar]

thammer can deal with mix hordes easily

[analog ember]

play staffker

[lucid nest]

which deals perfectly well with hordes

[green yacht]

shooting hordes lmao

[analog ember]

wtf you doing in zealot chat my man

go play psyker or something

[lucid nest]

You have not used an agripinaa braced autogun burger

that shit clears hordes easily

[green yacht]

LMAO\

[analog ember]

alr

i give up

[plush estuary]

he is #1 fan

[green yacht]

guys ive never even booted dt

[lucid nest]

the cleave on that weapon just sweeps through hordes

[opal solar]

Also,
Melee weapons that require a guide to know how to use it decently ❌
melee weapons that require you to swing it at the enemy and they die ✅ ✅ ✅

[green yacht]

clearly i dont anything about braced autoguns

[lucid nest]

Then why are you even here mate

[green yacht]

for the apple fritters

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-famished-rev-up-those-fryers-spongebob-time-to-eat-gif-4888266

[spare talon]

lmao

no

crusher is goated

[plush estuary]

coal is here

gg

[spare talon]

and functionally is very different than thammer

just cuz it has an activation and uses 2 hands doesnt make them similar

[placid fiber]

^

[north sedge]

ok but both have handles cole have you considered this

[opal solar]

The two handed powered bludgeon is nothing like the two handed powered bludgeon!

[spare talon]

fuck

[analog ember]

literally the same weapon. idk why fatshart made two thammers. what were they thinking??

[lucid nest]

the relic blade has that too but i dont compair them

[opal solar]

But I agree, they're not similar. The thammer is great, and the crusher feels anemic.

[green yacht]

skill issue tbh

[spare talon]

are we even playing the same game

[placid fiber]

They just don't want to put effort into using a weapon

[violet hornet]

both go bonk, clearly the same

[opal solar]

Sorry, I didn't read a guide on how to properly swing the maul so it actually kills things.

[lucid nest]

i dont generalize. I am just looking at Thammer can do something amazingly well. Crusher can do everything good.
I rather have 2 weapons that each do something amazingly well help each other rather then 1 that does everything mediocre

[opal solar]

And prefer to use weapons that are intuitive.

[green yacht]

crusher doesnt even require effort tbh

[analog ember]

bro crusher has some of the simplest combos in the game lol

[opal solar]

Yet several people referred to the guide somewhere in the channel to learn to use it properly.

[green yacht]

because you seem to need it somehow

[lucid nest]

Thammer can clear hordes too just not as good as a crusher. But good enough that it doesnt fuck you over in a pinch.

[analog ember]

it's an easy weapon to pick up, but there's plenty of ways you can get better at it

simple as

[misty nova]

Lemme hold your hand while I'll tell you about the one handed axe

[opal solar]

I don't, because I just don't want to use the weapon, because it feels like crap to use.

[spare talon]

crusher is a combo heavy weapon with a mix of finesse/impact
thammer is an armor and boss nuker at its core

[green yacht]

have you tried checking your mouse for hardware failures and/or getting a new one?

[north sedge]

the guide exists because people usually either think you light spam or special spam it

[opal solar]

Mouse works fine for every other melee weapon.

[north sedge]

(and never use the crazy push attack)

[placid fiber]

Which is sad because that push attack is op

[lucid nest]

Crushers dont have finesse? or is their base finesse higher or something?

[lucid nest]

use push attack all the damn time with thammer its great

[north sedge]

the push attack has high finesse

[placid fiber]

Not having a finesse stat =/= having bad finesse modifiers

[north sedge]

the push attack on hammer is nothing

[lucid nest]

read

[spare talon]

specific attacks have much higher crit and headshot scaling, quite high for a blunt weapon

[north sedge]

the push attack on the crusher does a bunch

[placid fiber]

"Crushers dont have finesse?"

[lucid nest]

READ the entire sentance

[spare talon]

to the point where you can deal a huge chunk of damage with it in a quick instant at any moment

[lucid nest]

Aaah that i did not actually know

But that does require a better handeling at melee weapons then i think i currently have especially after not touching darktide since mh wilds came out xD

[placid fiber]

the funny thing is the crusher handles elite groups better than the thammer by a long shot

[spare talon]

this is the push attack scaling for crusher

this is the push attack scaling for thammer

both actually have the exact same amount of cleave too, 8.75

[lucid nest]

Thammer you dont use push attack for damage tho, you use it to push shit away xD

atleast thats what i use it for

[spare talon]

with crusher the push attack is both huge for damage and combos

[lucid nest]

but yeah thats alot higher then i expected

[spare talon]

because you can lead into both single target and horde clear with it

and the push attack is honestly good as an opener for both

[analog ember]

too high. we need to give crusher a cleave limit like evis

😈

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-strangle-strangler-green-screen-jerma985-gif-17125371314885361023

[analog ember]

[spare talon]

every single activated attack for crusher has infinite cleave too btw

[lucid nest]

Na with perhaps the difficulty that the crusher adds to the usage it might be fine

I notice f.e. that a crusher can 4shot a crusher. But when i looked at Avis's gameplay during that fight it took him 6 because he coudlnt nail all the attacks properly because in the end in a actual battle getting all the perfect hits is hard esp with side swings

[spare talon]

plus skullcrusher is a blessing it has, and its a lot more impact focused so you make use of that whopping 80% dmg debuff way more often, especially with proper combos

[lucid nest]

which creates an extra layer of complexity

[sullen forge]

Dont you love damage

with your damage

[spare talon]

an activated heavy then fotf push attack with duellist active will kill a crusher in 2 hits

with skullcrusher

[lucid nest]

Oke that is actually interesting

[north sedge]

can do it in 3 buffed up / hitting your headshots

[spare talon]

may be able to get away without duellist if slaughterer is stacked

[lucid nest]

having a reason to get an impact focussed build with that

This man is genuinely selling me to try crusher again xD

[spare talon]

honestly slaughterer gives all the impact you need cuz its strength

[lucid nest]

I thought strenght was damage is that impact?

or is it both?

[spare talon]

its damage cleave and impact

[placid fiber]

strength is damage, cleave, and impact

[spare talon]

all in one

[green yacht]

its damage, cleave, and impact

[lucid nest]

oooh its just everything

[spare talon]

multiplicitive with those respective stats too

[lucid nest]

oke good to know

[placid fiber]

also strength multiplies with damage bonuses(that are not from strength)

[spare talon]

the weapon itself has enough impact innately for smaller guys for SC and the activation is always there for bigger guys, free bulwark opens

[lucid nest]

this game has to much hidden information xD

[plush estuary]

[placid fiber]

which is why a thrust thammer hits so hard

[spare talon]

fatshark stamp of quality

(honestly a huge reason i love the game is cuz of how much technical knowledge you can dive into that can actually be applicable in a real game)

[lucid nest]

aaah i run that 😄

[analog ember]

hell for people learning the game lol

[lucid nest]

it is very cool but its sometimes very confusing esp for like me while i play probably more hardcore then most casual players i still consider myself casual

[placid fiber]

Sadly there's something the crusher will never do...

[spare talon]

most people get by without needing to know any of that stuff

[lucid nest]

like i have about 500 hours in to the game by this point

[plush estuary]

a baby

[placid fiber]

a newborn babe

[sullen forge]

baby hours

[lucid nest]

which all in all inst to crazy but its also not little

[analog ember]

they get spoonfed by tanner

[spare talon]

like the most applicable "hidden knowledge" for most players is that block and push is 360 degrees

[analog ember]

[lucid nest]

Like I have 300 hours in monster hunter wilds and that shit is out for like... 3 months now xD

[placid fiber]

Unlike in vt2(for pushing)

[north sedge]

There's just alot of obfuscated mechanics in the game

[long oasis]

If I had max stacks of both blessings its 120% no? Is it capped?

[lucid nest]

I kinda half knew that, i wasnt perfectly aware of that but kinda did experience it

[plush estuary]

there is a max reload speed iirc

try it with vet

all 2 reload speed talents

[long oasis]

on it

[plush estuary]

🙏

[placid fiber]

but one of the reload talents* won't function on the db because you need ammo in your mag

[lucid nest]

its also kinda overkill i think but then again i'd love to see it in action

[plush estuary]

ur mom

[spare talon]

block costs are increased if hit from behind, that one is a lot more commonly known
but when rezzing someone, the block cost increase is based on your camera angle in 3rd person
so fucking dumb
just look at the enemy hitting you lmao

[placid fiber]

gottem

[placid fiber]

oh, I didn't actually know that >.>

[lucid nest]

yeah thats funny coding things. It makes sense fatshark probably has like a directional camera marker to know the facing of the player and just used that in the block calculation

[violet hornet]

same lmao

[placid fiber]

2k hours in darktide and I'm still learning <.<

[spare talon]

the darktide experience

[ornate bone]

Speaking of moms….

How do you feel about BP on knife over IJ? I am using your pinned build for knife and it’s going good, but how to BP do with it?

[spare talon]

i learned that tox gas give the player the same buffs that smoke does in relation to ranged enemies

like

3000 hours in

[placid fiber]

wait it makes enemies not shoot at you?

[lucid nest]

I started to use dodge button after like 300 hours or somethign xD

[spare talon]

[lucid nest]

Never needed it before

[placid fiber]

Rookie mistake, I started using the dodge button a few minutes in

in the tutorial <.<

[green yacht]

lmao

[lucid nest]

i started out with zealot. and not until i started taking the game seriously and tried more harder content

I just never needed to dodge

they are quite bulky on their own

[pliant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wyd-cat-scratching-cat-scratch-cleaning-screen-gif-15994084353171838166

[plush estuary]

BP is best keystone overall, but I like IJ sometimes

all keystones work on zel

(matry stinky though)(

[light badge]

Sedition maxxer

[spare talon]

piety is only better cuz of IoD

[ornate bone]

Pffft. I love marty.

[plush estuary]

enduring faith too

[lucid nest]

Martyr build it was yeah

[spare talon]

true

[plush estuary]

stalwart

[placid fiber]

inb4 the incoming IoD and enduring faith nerfs

[lucid nest]

you just walk and take no fuckin damage its amazing xD

[light badge]

DS4 nerf or bust

I pray

[spare talon]

if you really value mobility slower weapons
IJ is your homie

[median steeple]

Remove DS.from da game

[placid fiber]

Literally has been needed since before it was given to zealot and vet

[spare talon]

i would reduce enduring faith to 30%

which is still really high

but like

cmon

50%

[light badge]

true!

[placid fiber]

just think... it used to be 75% back before we had talent trees

[lucid nest]

its to good on knife, idk if its to good on alot of the other weapons tho

[placid fiber]

any weapon that uses bp it is good on

[lucid nest]

i guess also with DS now

[spare talon]

its too good because piety makes any weapon able to crit consistently

[placid fiber]

Probably even the thammer :\

[lucid nest]

that is true

i have never ran a crit thammer xD

[placid fiber]

crit thammer is the worst way to run it

[lucid nest]

i bet

[plush estuary]

no

[spare talon]

please tell me youre an IJmaxxer

[placid fiber]

even with IoD I am still 100% sure that piety is the worst keystone for it

[lucid nest]

IJ? what does that mean

[placid fiber]

inexorable judgement

[green yacht]

the humble keystoneless thammer

[placid fiber]

[lucid nest]

oooh the momentum one

[placid fiber]

the one that buffs dodges(it doesn't tell you this)

[lucid nest]

yeah i know i know i nhave noticed that

[placid fiber]

faster dodge recovery, bigger dodges, faster dodges

[lucid nest]

its something i actually quite recently delved like a month before my big hiatus

It was a path i treid to take to get my DC to work

on damnation levels

[placid fiber]

dclaw can 1 shot crushers with chastise after a parry

[lucid nest]

oke first of all.. you have to chastise in to hitting a parry on a crusher

xD

like

Mate

[placid fiber]

No, you parry then chastise

[lucid nest]

wait doesnt chasitise cancle the parry?

[placid fiber]

idk, I haven't actually done it so idk how it looks

I just know you can 1 shot crushers when done right

[lucid nest]

it cancles other attacks

[placid fiber]

Not always

You can still chain a heavy when done right

[lucid nest]

oh

[placid fiber]

same for the activation on the thammer, relic blade, etc

it doesn't auto reset your attack

[lucid nest]

interesting tho i use Fortitude with my Thamer

But my main problem is that Dclaw just doesnt hold up hordes for me anymore when you get in to damnation

heretic is already hard with it

damnation just...

[placid fiber]

I think the mk7 is generally the prefered mark

you are dumping mobility on it, right?

[lucid nest]

yes

i think so yes

[placid fiber]

I would look into ainz compendium for a good way to build it, since I am not 100% sure on the dclaw

Pretty much every weapon besides maybe the mk1 dclaw is useable on damnation to aurics

[lucid nest]

ooh with i think with Dclaw i have like a 70/70 with Cleave targets and mobility

[placid fiber]

even the achlys caxe or mk4 taxe

[lucid nest]

Cleave targets to just go slightly above the like marker

I am running atm Shred and Devastating strike on it but i think i need something like rampage to make it better instead

[long oasis]

doom dark ages gameplay

[lucid nest]

honestly that is hilarious

That reminds me a little of my fast reload bolter on my vet

I did all the fast reload perks and it actually makes that thing really goated

[long oasis]

exe bolter is fun

[lucid nest]

i use mk4 i think i tried other marks when the new patch came out that put the other marks at a similar level but i still ended up going for 4. But yeah i think 7 is better but it requires more brainpower to use

[obsidian prairie]

No manstopper L

[lucid nest]

he went full attackspeed xD

[long oasis]

you cannot stop me

[obsidian prairie]

I mean

I can't

[lucid nest]

i also like that you pushed this in the Zealot chat rather then vet xD

[long oasis]

vet chat is stinky

[lucid nest]

Vets dont wash

[long oasis]

but also I was playing this with zealot before ainz sent me on a side mission

[lucid nest]

it happens

[long oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246140539039252481/1337259957535375381/IMG_1886.gif

[copper hawk]

does the nda prevent you from telling us what will be in the zealot nerf

[spare talon]

we're not even there yet

[lucid nest]

Is cole a tester?

[spare talon]

yeah

[lucid nest]

Aaah nice

[spare talon]

i was kidnapped by strawhat

[lucid nest]

The pirate?

[spare talon]

i am kept crammed in the file cabnets in fatshark hq

[lucid nest]

or is there a dev called strawhat?

[spare talon]

i havent eaten in weeks

[lucid nest]

xD

[spare talon]

the community manager

[lucid nest]

probably deserved it ngl XD

the emperors love is all the food you need

[lucid nest]

yup a luffy fan

i knew it

[long oasis]

hyopthetically if you broke the nda which chaos god would your soul go to?

[lucid nest]

Probably Tzeentch cuss hes of lies and trickery and betrayal and shit right

And according to google AI Slaanesh aswel xD

[long oasis]

perhaps

[lucid nest]

but thats more because you betray the emperor with your sexylust stuff

[lucid nest]

No slanesh worshiping in this server

[jagged cradle]

Is there any other content for the other classes

[copper hawk]

yet ?? it's so over

[jagged cradle]

Maybe next year

[copper hawk]

if we get a massive nerf instead of a rework i think im gonna just uninstall

[spare talon]

you know i meant zealot changes

[copper hawk]

i said nerf. u said yet. i can't unsend my anthrax bomb 2 ur house

[tame sluice]

okay new zealot nerf idea

zealot skill tree dework

reverted to pre class rework skill tree design

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/397919123117572098/1375158285816299530/caption.gif

[tame sluice]

me

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/dredd-i-am-the-law-law-gif-15405332

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-danish-gif-4671833751712398379

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[median steeple]

Fake language

[jagged cradle]

How many more days do I have ?

[lucid nest]

Is the zealot so much more powerful then the other classes that it needs a rework or hefty nerfs ?

[analog ember]

it's more like ogryn and psyker needs nerfs

but i think zealot power-wise has aged better than vet

[stable cypress]

zealot has really wonky tree structure with a few extremely strong things, but more importantly almost 0 build variety

[analog ember]

tree sucks tho

[spare talon]

its that zealots best build is extremely strong

like drastically overtuned in lots of areas

but

thats all the tree has going for it

any deviation for this one build makes it kinda bad

[lucid nest]

Ooh really I have so many different cool zealot builds

[spare talon]

because everything else on the tree kinda sucks

[stable cypress]

ogryn is busted but the idea that stuff core to the class doesn't make you blow a bunch of points to reach it is a good idea

[spare talon]

anything that doesnt suck and isnt part of The Build is just too costly and takes away from things that are better and more important

[analog ember]

yeah this is huge

[lucid nest]

I agree with that statement

[stable cypress]

zealot also suffers from imbalance with ult, stealth is broken for solo but otherwise p crap compared to chastise, chorus is cheesy team support but middle tree is mostly ass

meanwhile chastise still goated and is right below until death + duelist

[spare talon]

its just
a poorly designed tree

[lucid nest]

I like martyrdom

[delicate shadow]

zealot needs reworking, not nerfing, basically

[spare talon]

basically

[analog ember]

realistically, it'll be massively buffed with the rework

[stable cypress]

the really strong stuff on zealot could be hit a bit if you had easy access to other alternatives

[delicate shadow]

like the one build™️ is overpowered but that's solvable by simply improving the tree layout so that power is more spread out

[spare talon]

just the entire structure of the tree and what it has and where is just a bunch of issues

[north sedge]

No buffs only nerfs

[round echo]

Zealot so tuff

[stable cypress]

(Also a large part of zealot being really strong is ds, relic sword and flamer)

[lucid nest]

I mean I love building and atm I have nothing to do on my zealot so I wouldn’t mind a big change to the tree

[spare talon]

granted it kinda is already spread out
its just that all the power is in clumps in various parts of the tree

[stable cypress]

I really want a different ult to replace stealth but thats not happening lmao

[delicate shadow]

also being real, with how Ogryn is nowadays it's not like Zealot is really breaking the bank any more. I'd personally like to see player power in general tuned down across classes but I doubt that'll ever fly

[spare talon]

these are generally the clumps

[lucid nest]

Wait weren’t people massively complaining about the relic sword being shit when it came out?

[lucid nest]

Yeah I can see that

[spare talon]

so this is the build basically

[delicate shadow]

those people were/are wrong

[stable cypress]

wdym ogryn shouldn't have 12% power because literally anybody on the map was shot at by a single trash marksman

idk some people thought relic sword was kinda slow and bad dodges but it fights density extremely well

[lucid nest]

Happy to hear I was right xD I felt like the weapon was very powerful and no clue why they where complaining

[delicate shadow]

watching ogryns fight multiple chaos spawns without dodging because of toughness regen madness

[placid fiber]

prepped for anything (with 6 points left to spare), including doing the fucking minigame on the device while enemies are hitting you(thanks, thy wrath be swift)

[stable cypress]

I think the ogryn toughness talents working on lights is good but lmao confident strike needs to be completely removed

[spare talon]

oh

on a similar note

[delicate shadow]

yeah I mean Ogryn tree is very good conceptually, it's just a lot of the numbers are overtuned and various blessing interactions are cracked af

[light badge]

that is so fucked lmao

[stable cypress]

also please fucking kill rumbler

kill it dead

[spare talon]

earlier today i was bored and decided i was gonna fight that daemonhost when i was running just a casual solo with bots

[stable cypress]

I said before buffs "it's hard to balance grenade launcher with no friendly fire in horde game"

[spare talon]

i was running arbites

[stable cypress]

and its way healthier for game when that thing is shit instead of being brought by multiple ogryns

[spare talon]

i killed it

[delicate shadow]

it's a problem with AoE generally but yeah rumbler is deffo on the list of things that need nerfing

[copper hawk]

it's a joke for the most part

our tree sucks

[violet hornet]

I think when it launched it had an issue with dodges being terrible but I think they fixed it quickly. I'm used to thammer though so it felt kinda normal

[copper hawk]

about half of our talents or totally useless or done better by equivalent talents in other trees

[stable cypress]

yeah infinite cleave is corny in general but I think its officially most obnoxious on rumbler

[lucid nest]

Yeah I have heard

[copper hawk]

and it hasn't been changed since introduction drastically

[lucid nest]

Well fingers crossed then

[placid fiber]

and second wind exists

[copper hawk]

we have essentially one build and deviating from it at all is miserable

[delicate shadow]

I'd really like to rework martyrdom

[lucid nest]

Well I mean I have a bunch of builds but I can see what people are coming from some of them work a lot better then others

[spare talon]

cica also forgets just how overly strong The Build and its components are, and they also are included in what need to be reworked

like yes we have one build
but both the very bad and very good need tweaks in their own regard

[placid fiber]

gunners show up

zealot charges them

gunners die

[delicate shadow]

yeah like the tree just needs to be more evened out and various nodes that are kinda just superfluous (or totally useless) will need replacing/reworking

[spare talon]

playing with right side rumbler spam is like playing with a team of full smite only users but the enemies die in 0.01 seconds so you dont get to play the game

[stable cypress]

its also worth mentioning we're generally talking about highest difficulty here, like esp below havocs you can really run anything smoothly if you have good fundamentals

[copper hawk]

i'm not really convinced it's any worse than a full crit psyker

the other parts of the tree need an overhaul and some talents need to either be nerfed in line or broken into multiple talents

[placid fiber]

[stable cypress]

you also get to see even less of the screen and all of the ammo is gone for some reason, also you're probably getting barrel ledged

[delicate shadow]

yeee in auric damn and below you can run pretty much anything

[copper hawk]

talents like 60% more sprint efficiency and the like need to just be chummed

[lucid nest]

I love martyr dom it makes you so tanky if build well you dive in orher shit tho like I have tanked crusher strikes with them feels kinda cool. As long as they keep the tanking aspect of it I am good

[spare talon]

-# its 20%

[copper hawk]

marty needs a fundamental relook at how they want it to function ebcause at it is you are punished/at higher risk to dying in combat when you utilize your keystone

[spare talon]

most of psykers strengths are the fact that their shit is infinite cleave and we have been begging for that to be nuked from orbit

[copper hawk]

and our tree has missing talents which are replaced with nodes

[round echo]

Yo what build do u guys reccomend for first time player

[stable cypress]

I'm actually doing the event this time (lmao free aquilas ig) and its blowing my mind seeing ogryns die to anything besides disablers or slurping up like 6 overheads

[copper hawk]

and the only mandatory talent tax in the game

[delicate shadow]

yeee my thinking was to just make it so it's no longer tied to being on low wounds/wound stacking but to keep the general vibe otherwise the same

[copper hawk]

that being the golden tness talent you are required to take if you take chorus

[plush estuary]

zealot mentioned?

[misty ravine]

Marty isn't that much more tanky than some other keystone with the Toughness you would have had from not running Wound curios

[obsidian prairie]

Getting too silly

[placid fiber]

cough the obligatory mk1 dclaw w/ non-armor damage ranged weapon COUGH COUGH COUGH

[round echo]

Idrk how zealot work I just picked it

[analog ember]

I was told today by someone in #general-chat that rumblergryn is fine

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

[lucid nest]

I would revert it and rather give boost on how high your healthpool is perhaps

[plush estuary]

go for this, and use whatever weapons you want

[spare talon]

gen chat always has the most opinions of al time

[misty ravine]

Ogrynheimer, Destroyer of Frames

[round echo]

Bet

[placid fiber]

sweet, the dr maxxing build

[brave cypress]

gen chat is where you can preach about the four armed emperor's ascension

[obsidian prairie]

Can we firebomb general yet

[copper hawk]

also it provides no benefit unless you're hurt

[copper hawk]

wont happen

same w damage cap on evis

:D

JOY !

JOYYYY !

[maiden forge]

the plot of dark heresy

[lucid nest]

Yeah I know that’s why I would revert it. Provide bonus the higher your health is to promote good play rather then risky

[stable cypress]

no its okay they're gonna uncap evis and give zealot stagger nodes so it can stunlock bosses like ogryn shovel

[delicate shadow]

I'd make martyr work based on toughness breakages giving bonuses for X amount of time or something akin to that

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[north sedge]

Make evis stall if you try to special

[stable cypress]

that is not cope that is shit I hope does not happen lmao

the stagger I mean buff evis plz

[round echo]

What weapons r generally better in this game blunt or blade

[plush estuary]

blade for single targetr

[delicate shadow]

or just getting chunked out a % of toughness gives you boosts, so you're encouraged to hit trade and use your tankiness but it doesn't require dunking your health or stacking wounds

[plush estuary]

blunt for stagger horde clear

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1365794075550154762/Funny_mutant.gif

[lucid nest]

Give Evis rev an activation like relic sword which uncaps the cleave xD

[plush estuary]

no

not everything need RB special

[outer gulch]

big epic chainsword does

[placid fiber]

no, EVERYTHING does

EVERYTHING

[lucid nest]

Exact

[delicate shadow]

evis legit just needs the target cap removed and some damage profile updates

[placid fiber]

INcluding the knife

[delicate shadow]

it's really not a big lift to make evis solid

[spare talon]

Rumbler ogryn is fine

[delicate shadow]

fair and balanced

god I never wanna hear shit about powercreep from an ogryn again lmao

[placid fiber]

Man I should have recorded my autopistol rampages, where I was shooting for like 4+ minutes straight

[stable cypress]

I don't know what the fuck to do about trauma staff besides turn its aoe into a death pillar instead of free fucking grenade aoe, but flamers really need to engage with hitmass lmao

[lucid nest]

Perhaps give atleast every chain weapon a rev on either heavy or light similar to the axe it feels weird that they only rev on activation

[spare talon]

i want them to recieve a soft cap in the form of application rate

[stable cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0IvTKR3H_Y

[spare talon]

agathae lol

[placid fiber]

inspiring barrage was popping tf off, making it so I couldn't die unless I was stupid

[subtle sentinel]

Pick the middle 2 at the top instead of the right middle tree, more damage to unyielding is great

[spare talon]

where after a certain # of targets hit, the rate at which it applies stacks is lower per target, capping at a decently low number

lemme find my full thing for it

[subtle sentinel]

And pick the backstab talent

[north sedge]

Nothing beats beta chainsword which literally wasn't turned on until you revved and hit like a pillow

[copper hawk]

Ogryn is balanced*

[stable cypress]

"let rumblergryns have their fun"

[spare talon]

application rate would be a a way you could add a cleave cap to flamers without straight up adding a hard cap
where the first X targets hit by a tick of the projectile receive 1 stack, like normal, then after that threshold, each consecutive target receives -0.1 stacks less than the previous target hit by the projectile, with like 0.2 being the minimum
a decimal in this case would function just as progress toward the next stack, so 1.5 would deal the damage of 1 burn stack, but would only require 0.5 more to reach 2, stacks decaying would take the decimal away first as a tick then a full 1 on the second and so forth

[placid fiber]

it's a dr build for the sake of dr

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-mark-grayson-nolan-grayson-gif-6480547052217762637

[subtle sentinel]

Then pick the right one at the very middle

[green yacht]

stop cooking

[subtle sentinel]

Damage reduction when you or ally take damage I believe

Big damage reduction

[delicate shadow]

back when people thought the dmr lasgun was overpowered

[placid fiber]

You have to take health damage for it to activate

[ebon cove]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-who-are-you-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20788418

[subtle sentinel]

WHY THE FUCK DOES THE GAME NOT CLARIFY THIS

I KNEW IT SOUNDED TOO GOOD

[stable cypress]

fatshark descriptions

[ebon cove]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[delicate shadow]

FS tooltips moment

[placid fiber]

Darktide 101: Never trust fatshark descriptions

[subtle sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-animated-sitcom-peter-peter-griffin-funny-gif-17656245

I would rather pick +2 wounds over that

[delicate shadow]

tbh it's no worth using even if it's procced on toughness

[spare talon]

remember how TWBS says melee stuns but its actually melee, ranged, and any knockback and slowdowns
remember how stalwart never says anything about the +2.5% more toughness it gives when piety is active per melee kill
remember how IJ gives dodge distance, dodge speed, and dodge refresh rate per stack but says it nowhere

[subtle sentinel]

Isn't it like 60% damage reduction upon taking damage for 4 seconds

[delicate shadow]

because it's just gonna pop and go on cooldown the moment anyone takes a single bullet

[plush estuary]

its fine to build correct me, I dont know anything

[delicate shadow]

which means the value will be random

[subtle sentinel]

Isn't the cooldown per person?

Bruh

[delicate shadow]

🙂

[subtle sentinel]

Zealot really does have just 1 fucking build huh

[placid fiber]

Yep

[spare talon]

it used to be iirc but was stealth changed to be a global cooldown

[subtle sentinel]

Damn

[copper hawk]

honestly

no matter what they do

[subtle sentinel]

Half my perks are probably useless at this point cuz fatshark didn't explain

[copper hawk]

if they axe second wind without unshittifying our other options

i will be angy..

[delicate shadow]

you're always angy.

[copper hawk]

second wind is the only reason why i take tknives

[stable cypress]

you can do different keystones, I only go down to crit cdr and dump twbs so I can get ij on z crusher for havoc

[subtle sentinel]

Now I gotta open the game and change that perk before I forget it is 8 in the morning fuuuuck

[placid fiber]

what about for edgemaxxing twbs? (by not taking it)

[spare talon]

cica you realize
i am a zealot main
i want this class to be good
and i like most of the things in The Build
because thats how i play

[stable cypress]

but yes it's kinda fucking dire lmao

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah but beyond that

[copper hawk]

ur the only pter i trust tbh

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah same lol

[copper hawk]

Take Zealot Out Back And Kneecap Them

[subtle sentinel]

The Build fits me perfectly so I don't mind that much

[copper hawk]

moments after the ogryn rework launches

[jagged cradle]

True and real you’re a noob

[plush estuary]

noob

[subtle sentinel]

Peter

[copper hawk]

Zealot's Speed Is Broken And Zealot Is The Fastest Class In The Game

[plush estuary]

no

zealot isnt

[copper hawk]

(verifiably wrong it's psyker have u played any other class)

[plush estuary]

fastest

[copper hawk]

exactly lmfao

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-sad-crying-wipes-tears-wiping-tears-gif-24991919

[copper hawk]

from a pter

[stable cypress]

I trust sequens b/c he hates infinite cleave and said he'd quit darktide if they gave uncanny to devil claw

[plush estuary]

🤓 👆

[spare talon]

a peter

[jagged cradle]

You guys are nerds

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-danish-gif-4671833751712398379

[subtle sentinel]

I want more parry weapons cuz it feels so good

[delicate shadow]

most of the testers know what they're doing lol

[placid fiber]

why does cica hate peter?

[subtle sentinel]

Free block that deals damage

Holy moly

[spare talon]

its kinda crazy

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-get-away-shoo-disappear-gif-5683568285290773389

[plush estuary]

shush malice gamer

[placid fiber]

[delicate shadow]

it's easy to talk shit but 99% of what people say about the test group is made the fuck up lmao

[spare talon]

and despite what people think
not everyone agrees on things
debates happen between them
its not just a group of yes men

[delicate shadow]

well except Cole, Cole says yes to everything even contradictory stuff

[spare talon]

im cornered

[placid fiber]

"Do you think we should nerf Second Wind?"
Cole: "Yes"

[subtle sentinel]

I am gonna kidnap a tester and make them tell me if hadron romance is in the game

[obsidian prairie]

He has to get fed somehow

[stable cypress]

wow I can't believe literally every playtester okay'd the ogryn power + tdr node with global range

[delicate shadow]

such is the nature of our labours

[green yacht]

kidnap dn

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-typing-and-then-they-kissed-writing-blogging-gif-9529086

[subtle sentinel]

This guy looks familiar

[ebon cove]

What is wrong with you? Take that gooning out of my build speculation and bad weapon takes, please.

[placid fiber]

it's the spirit of chaos from mlp(Discord)

[lucid nest]

Would it be to good? The DC can use a little boost. Tho it would make the parry very strong

[stable cypress]

uncanny is busted is the problem

[cold rose]

Wtf???

[subtle sentinel]

It is not gooning I want to go on a lovely date with her, praise the omnissiah, and have a loving relationship

[pliant ice]

there is a romance in the game already

#zealot-class message

[ebon cove]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[stable cypress]

it is not a healthy blessing. Some weapons could have a bit higher dmg vs armor but uncanny just turns crushers into a fake idea

[subtle sentinel]

Veteran professional and judge zealot romance when

She wants him

[pliant ice]

no

i linked it

[lucid nest]

I mean yeah but it also already in a weapon that is goated even without it

[violet hornet]

Datetide when, ?

[delicate shadow]

uncanny needs to be kneecapped, it's not even the most problematic thing in the game but the numbers on it are dumb

[subtle sentinel]

Who the fuck is swagger

Who named that guy

[stable cypress]

duelling sword and knife are also busted

[pliant ice]

oh you dont know?

[subtle sentinel]

Nah they suck against hordes fr

[placid fiber]

Would you like to do a bajillion damage to crushers?

[subtle sentinel]

I heard the name in a loree video but that's it

It didn't explain shit

[delicate shadow]

ds4 is verifiably busted af

[lucid nest]

Ds is busted on zealot yeah

[stable cypress]

not that much on zealot, also human classes have other horde options ESP psyker infinite cleave with no ammo/cooldown restrictions

[delicate shadow]

it's busted on psyker as well

[placid fiber]

oh havoc? Yeah. In the base game? Lol they can kill hordes(the ds4 does it better than the knife)

[obsidian prairie]

Ds is busted on zealot yeah

[subtle sentinel]

I would rather have my melee be for hordes and my gun be for specials and bosses

[violet hornet]

Make ds get limbs, heads, and torsos stuck on it so you have to stop and pull them off to continue using it

[subtle sentinel]

Cuz otherwise I run out of ammo

[violet hornet]

Kebabtide

[sullen forge]

Busted on Veteran also

lmao

[delicate shadow]

like really the only thing the complaints about ds4 coming around only after opening it up to zealot and vet is that psyker players generally suck at melee

[sullen forge]

its just overpowered in general

Calling it right now

will be busted on Arbite also

[subtle sentinel]

Combat axe is still the best weapon to me it is awesome

[stable cypress]

Its been busted on psyker for a long time, just less noticeable b/c psyker can avoid melee for most or all of the match

[placid fiber]

gimme a min or 2, I'll show you how it does >.>

[ebon cove]

*never needed to use melee

[delicate shadow]

nah I don't think so :^)

[spare talon]

remember "it was fine on psyker"

[lucid nest]

Combat axe is actually well balanced

[green yacht]

duelling swords are just flat out overpowered, zealot does not have a monopoly on buffs that affect melee

[obsidian prairie]

Yes it’s also pretty good to bet on the sun rising tomorrow

[spare talon]

:^)

[subtle sentinel]

Brutal momentum

[delicate shadow]

same difference tbh

[subtle sentinel]

The cleave is so satisfying

[spare talon]

brutal momentum

[subtle sentinel]

And headtaker

[stable cypress]

woe, orange moebians be upon ye (I miss orange moebians in havoc)

[lucid nest]

I know but I honestly don’t think it makes it busted

[subtle sentinel]

It is pure satisfaction

[stable cypress]

I'm gonna miss blight too

[delicate shadow]

it's actually funny how rashad used to be THE overpowered weapon

[lucid nest]

I run the axe too

[delicate shadow]

the powercreep in darktide is fuckin' hilarious

[obsidian prairie]

Some of the worst clear in the game straight to top spot with one blessing

[stable cypress]

tbf a part of that is havoc fucks over combat axe BPs

[spare talon]

1 blessing turning a single target weapon with a weakness of the fact it cant hit anything besides that one target it one shots suddenly hitting 5 targets
and one shotting all of them
even if theyre elites

[lucid nest]

Wasn’t it the antax that was the broken axe

[spare talon]

antax is the same but rashad is better

[stable cypress]

nah before rashad had broken (bad) headshot hitboxes so you had to go antax

[spare talon]

more raw and finesse damage

but yeah rashad was just bugged and functionally bad, but better once fixed

[stable cypress]

then that got fixed and yeah rashad has finesse modifier instead of fake cleave stat

[delicate shadow]

anyway, the key thing to take away from all this is everything is fine and nerf tac axe

[lucid nest]

Good to know trying that later

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-i-hate-you-anakin-i-hate-you-i-dont-like-you-gif-18829084

[placid fiber]

@subtle sentinel how long do you think it will take? lol

[stable cypress]

lets get rid of taxe special stopping mutants, its tooooooooo strong

(I'm kidding)

its more fun than 1tap with ds zzzzzzz

[obsidian prairie]

Make it stop them on body shots

[stable cypress]

no its funnier when I miss headshot and get snatched

[spare talon]

sometimes i hit the head and get grabbed anyway

like actual hs hitmarker

[obsidian prairie]

Mutant was built different

Brain located in the right arm

[placid fiber]

I forgot to hit record so I had to start it after I turned off invisibility >.> @subtle sentinel

[hard widget]

In all fairness, Full-crit psyker is really funny with a build that leans into propogating Soulblaze.

[lucid nest]

Is stopping muties the only thing taxe has going for it?

[spare talon]

its gamebreakingly busted

[obsidian prairie]

No

[spare talon]

dont get me started

i wont shut up

[obsidian prairie]

Start

Now

[subtle sentinel]

Combat axe would have taken less time

I got the 60 kills in 10 seconds penance with it on damnation

[obsidian prairie]

I want a tac axe copypasta

[subtle sentinel]

[placid fiber]

Caxe without bromentum? Let me test it out

[lucid nest]

I looked in to the taxe and I couldn’t find a reason to use it over caxe

[plush estuary]

keeping up with a BW

[placid fiber]

This hurts my soul

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1279574218950049814/diggin.gif

[obsidian prairie]

Faster and better crits

Also fucks over ragers without even trying as opposed to cursory effort

And has a well defined weakness!!!!!!

[subtle sentinel]

Why without

[placid fiber]

Let's see

[stable cypress]

I reinstalled vt2 recently, hadn't played since 1st treachery mission. solo'd the 2nd one with bots to learn map and got v annoyed at the skulls zooping off with barrels. Then I watched vt2 twitch mode, saw bw ult with barrel to slam dunk it in and got so fucking mad lmao

[subtle sentinel]

That's the only thing giving it cleave smh

[placid fiber]

Because, you said caxe. You didn't say caxe with bromentum >:3

[lucid nest]

Yeah but if the other weapon doesn’t have that xD

[subtle sentinel]

Bromomentum is literally essential

And it is an axe, that's fucking awesome

[obsidian prairie]

Shouldn’t be

[lucid nest]

Bromentum

[plush estuary]

I hate tower

[stable cypress]

I know they nerfed bw carpet dmg but god lmao she's still operating on a different dimension to the rest of the game

[obsidian prairie]

Bromentum should be shot 37 times

[subtle sentinel]

But it is

It sucks without

It should come built in with axe smh

[plush estuary]

hop on VT sarah

cole

[stable cypress]

my right hand is jacked atm or I would orz

[cold rose]

Vermintide?

[subtle sentinel]

What does that even mean

[stable cypress]

It means I have tendinitis and have to take breaks sometimes

[subtle sentinel]

That's called jacked?

Thought ur right hand was muscular

[placid fiber]

Groaners have a low enough hitmas you can hit 2 with headtaker up

[subtle sentinel]

2 is less than whatever the fuck brutal momentum hits

[placid fiber]

again you said caxe, you didn't specify with bromentum

[subtle sentinel]

[spare talon]

faster (can hit same bruiser BM breakpoints caxe can so it can clear faster too)
better finesse
attacks you use to make use of BM also have a deceptive amount of impact that can stagger ragers and maulers out of any attack
it also has an innate crit bonus making crit talents easier to use and consistent even without piety
much higher mobility
an actually useful special

[lost pumice]

Which relic blade do y'all like better? I finally got around to trying it

[subtle sentinel]

I shouldn't have to specify the best blessings for the weapon smh

[analog ember]

X is way easier, without being materially weaker

[subtle sentinel]

They should add better special attacks to melees

[spare talon]

taxe is just an extremely safe weapon

[subtle sentinel]

Or just make them all parry/activation

Combat axe special is useless

I do it to hit the enemies in the balls but that's it

[placid fiber]

Here's the thing... the blessings on the ds4 did nothing for horde clear, both blessings(shred and headtaker) did stuff for hordeclear

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah cuz you build it for horde clear

It still does well against single targets too

[lost pumice]

What makes the mk2 more difficult? I was reading the pinned combos on it and it seems kinda straight forward. Is it just weaker

[obsidian prairie]

You can’t just left click spam

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile the ds4 does better vs single targets, and not as great vs hordes... but still adequately

[obsidian prairie]

You have to do light heavy (the absolute horror)

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah but I wanna do great against hordes

[lucid nest]

This man knows his shit ty I gotta ask you shit more often

[subtle sentinel]

[placid fiber]

why don't we see how this one does then

[subtle sentinel]

The shit inspector

[obsidian prairie]

It’s almost like he plays this game too much

[lost pumice]

That will make my fingers fall off

[subtle sentinel]

I never used it lmao

[spare talon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d542ea0-2eca-412b-979e-a74c9d3ede8b/left-click-lobotomite-immortal?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[subtle sentinel]

Why are these pictures either unfunny memes or goonerbait femboys

Just put an actual fucking zealot

Show off your drip idk

[obsidian prairie]

No

[plush estuary]

no

[obsidian prairie]

This is way funnier

I love playing in mud and eating sand

[subtle sentinel]

It is not it is weird

[placid fiber]

I don't know how to use the mk9 very well, so you will have to settle for the less efficient vs hordes version the mk6

[subtle sentinel]

Eating sand is weird

[misty ravine]

Accurate representation of zealot chat

[subtle sentinel]

We should eradicate femboys

[plush estuary]

how will poland recover?

[subtle sentinel]

Quite nicely

[spare talon]

someone hasnt tried it

[plush estuary]

clearly

[placid fiber]

Since this weapon is better vs hordes I added a few extra enemies >.>

[spare talon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e477e30-624d-48a3-b54a-8097ca8a4145/simply-just-a-little-tac-axe-psyker?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[lost pumice]

Insert Star wars quote about sand

[subtle sentinel]

Zealot is NOT a little guy

[delicate shadow]

my zealot is

[spare talon]

WRONG
THATS A PSYKER TAXE BUILD

[plush estuary]

I saw it

[subtle sentinel]

My zealot is TALL

[delicate shadow]

all my characters are shortmaxxed

[subtle sentinel]

Why are u posting a psyker build in zealot chat

[delicate shadow]

the real minmaxxing

[sullen forge]

hi

[lucid nest]

Krait you gotta know what community you are in. XD

[subtle sentinel]

I should have made mine shorter, would have given more chances of running into a tall sister of battle cosplayer

[obsidian prairie]

TF you mean this is peak

[spare talon]

its zealot chat
functionally anything chat with a larger amount of zealot than the others

[plush estuary]

where is ballsack?

coal

yoiu need a pic of him

[subtle sentinel]

Upper left one best

[subtle sentinel]

Abraham Lincoln cut

[round echo]

Yo is heavy escalator same as assault chainswors but just bigger and two handed

[placid fiber]

It was even faster than the ds4, even tho there were more enemies and it wasn't making as good of use out of deathblow as the mk9(pretty much brutal momentum, but, for the heavy sword)

[plush estuary]

bigger and slower

[lucid nest]

All drain gang enjoyers here xD

[misty ravine]

tfw go to poland expecting femboys and get beaten up by skinheads

[placid fiber]

and I didn't take health damage lol

[sullen forge]

@plush estuary You

[obsidian prairie]

Heavy Escalator

[sullen forge]

should I make the ceiling wood or stone

[plush estuary]

rl craft?

[sullen forge]

yes

[plush estuary]

stone

[sullen forge]

its suffering

[plush estuary]

your making me want to reinstall

[subtle sentinel]

It is an escalator for the gore of your enemies

[copper hawk]

considerin ur char and steam namez idk if i want 2 know what u consider romance

[plush estuary]

sesbian lex

[copper hawk]

google doc reeks of nurgle

will not click..

[hard nexus]

wonder how much faster itd be with heavies

[plush estuary]

REAL

[misty ravine]

Is this an arbites joke

[placid fiber]

considering only the heavy 2 has a good cleave pattern... probably not much faster (that was the mk6)

[copper hawk]

:<

we got to save this god forsaken world Brunt

[lucid nest]

Wait if Arbites comes out we get a new discord channel xD

[copper hawk]

rashunz?

not time for dat Runt..

[sullen forge]

Literally first ever time playing RL

shit is suffering

[copper hawk]

dorn does like his feet

[plush estuary]

your 1st mistake

[subtle sentinel]

Feet sucks

[plush estuary]

making a house

[sullen forge]

The egg likes feet

[plush estuary]

RL craft has a ton of pregenerated houses

[sullen forge]

Oh we know

[copper hawk]

Phosphorecent Chupacabra

WAT !

[placid fiber]

what's the 2nd mistake of minecraft?

[sullen forge]

we just said fuck it lets make a cool place for once

[plush estuary]

filtered water canteen

[spare talon]

a shocking correlation between head bald like egg and liking feet

[subtle sentinel]

What is RL

[copper hawk]

gale's cool place is gonna be like

[subtle sentinel]

Y'all finally playing real life?

[copper hawk]

a crack shed

[plush estuary]

lol

[sullen forge]

the crack den

Its in a mountain side

[plush estuary]

you awre going to feeze in the winter

gg

[copper hawk]

dor

f

[sullen forge]

away from literally every land mine possible (dragon nests)

[misty ravine]

So that's why Horus did it

[lucid nest]

Arbites discord channel free of taint and corruption must be beautiful place the first second

[sullen forge]

Fool I have lava buckets and plan to make really cool builds with them

[obsidian prairie]

Nope

[sullen forge]

and I already know about the Fire elementals

I am already prepared for that

[obsidian prairie]

Horrific build debates

[pliant ice]

my steam name is normal

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1374399585073627299/rekt.gif

[lucid nest]

That’s why only the first second

[obsidian prairie]

Mine now

[copper hawk]

WAT !

https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-you-a-lot-david-barrera-gif-9120924250189534105

[foggy jay]

hello i recenty started playing the game and i hear the zealot class is the melee class if it is how do i go about making it good

[plush estuary]

Welcome to darktide

[copper hawk]

ogryn is the melee class

welcome to darktide

[misty ravine]

The secret is they're all melee classes

[plush estuary]

If you need a guide to follow I have made one

and pinned it

its pretty bare boned

but it has weapon and build help

[placid fiber]

actually wait... I'm probably wrong since the groaners were grouped tightly enough together that even the heavy 1 could easily get 4 kills

[plush estuary]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16W_MhzUGXv9WRVjXjowIyqlktqrJ8U5wxVlgX3X5TU8/edit?tab=t.0

[foggy jay]

oh god a google doc this bring me ptsd

[plush estuary]

lol

[jagged cradle]

What..

[obsidian prairie]

It’ll be a steam guide Eventually™️

[plush estuary]

I highly recommend gett this talent tree 1st, try all the weapons

[lucid nest]

It’s the main Melee class of the humans tho all classes atleast have some melee options. Most of the zealot stuff affects melee in some way so you are correct

[plush estuary]

all of them are viable

and you might find something that clicks for you

[placid fiber]

10 out of 10 guide, will shill to others

[plush estuary]

it took me 1500 hours to find my fav weapon, the tactical axe and I am still using it after 1500

at 3k hours now

[subtle sentinel]

It took me like 10 to find mine

[spare talon]

blame @pliant ice

[pliant ice]

what did i do

[plush estuary]

lol

[pliant ice]

this time

[jagged cradle]

Of course it was psyker

[subtle sentinel]

This gif makes me wanna rip whoever this is to shreds

[obsidian prairie]

I think I was there for that but forgor what they sent

[foggy jay]

why is there heresy in the google doc?

[obsidian prairie]

Fnuy

[placid fiber]

You forgot to main the mk10 relic blade

[pliant ice]

i dont even play zealot

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1279574218950049814/diggin.gif

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1375162764636717066/yeowch.mp4?ex=6830afa0&is=682f5e20&hm=6a98dfa04a80ded58238bfbb46f04c05642358e69fdaf905a5f1d2c5b0ab9bf9&

"FOR NURGL------"

[subtle sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-stk-scratch-itch-reach-hand-gif-3555786706744491648

[lucid nest]

Heracy!

[subtle sentinel]

Itchy balls

[obsidian prairie]

I like how they just decided to give all the bruiser goons a gunner weapon for that trailer

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1374442495907205152/17B3B31.MP4?ex=6830b3d2&is=682f6252&hm=5a49f8cb0441c11147f380d76d0781dc97bbba07b0fa5489a1af803c3fade75d&

[placid fiber]

wait we're getting another class?

[pliant ice]

yes

plague marine

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1355639152607100978/1437AA1.MP4?ex=6830d9d8&is=682f8858&hm=e1f6ef8a5d87baab301cd8da2ccf283bcae4a06071505cb0cfe9210cbfa1d88e&

[lost pumice]

I am absolute garbage with the relic blade

[placid fiber]

which mark? >.>

[obsidian prairie]

What magical rock are you living under

[placid fiber]

I've been in the ror2 discord for a while

[delicate shadow]

wait, we're getting another class? already???

[copper hawk]

already

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-1105617598331461830

[lost pumice]

Either lol. I just need to use it some more. I've used it for like 2 matches

[long oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ176VVTJZo

[placid fiber]

all you do on the mk10 is activate it if there's an elite or more than 2 guys and light spam(hordes) or heavy 1 heavy 2 light 3 rinse and repeat(single target)

It's as brain dead as the mk15 eviscerator <.<

[obsidian prairie]

Relic blade in general is pretty eepy

Nothing can hurt you unless you’re stupidly

[jagged cradle]

Omg I’m in there

[lost pumice]

Yeah I've just been playing too much ogryn lately. I gotta get used to zealot again

[sullen forge]

stop....... trolling............

[placid fiber]

It's extremely powerful

[sullen forge]

or you're getting BANNED!!!!!!!!!

[plush estuary]

"That actually was not funny, I'm leaving"

[copper hawk]

idk if this is like

[plush estuary]

30 seconds after

that was so funny

[copper hawk]

a bad or evil opinion

cuz i am an angy lil crature buuuut

didn't they say that future classes would be free

[obsidian prairie]

Was that havoc or something

[plush estuary]

auric damn

[obsidian prairie]

Bullying smyker gremlins

Free funny

[copper hawk]

and why r they chargin us for a class dlc when they've been chargin us for cosmetics that've consistently become more and more expensive

[long oasis]

yes and they also said there would be a new class every quarter

[copper hawk]

lmfao

https://tenor.com/view/guts-and-blackpowder-danish-gif-4671833751712398379

[long oasis]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stable cypress]

I think after the class tree rework they said any new class would be paid dlc b/c of labor involved with voice actors etc

[placid fiber]

so we're getting a wow hunter class? Neat

guess I'm gonna have to delete my 2nd ogryn for the new class <.<

[long oasis]

theyre adding a slot

[placid fiber]

at least my 4 zealots are safe

[long oasis]

you can keep your ogryn :>

[stable cypress]

I'm torn between flushing my 2nd ogryn b/c he's cute, and my 2nd psyker b/c he's cute but I don't play psyker anymore

need 8 slot mod expanded to 10 slot mod for me specifically

[obsidian prairie]

I only had 6 characters because of old Manstopper grinding

[plush estuary]

flip a coin

[stable cypress]

god lmao

[obsidian prairie]

A level 15 vet and level 19 psyker

[lucid nest]

Honestly it’s fine it’s about a 10er i have payed vastly more for all the fashion that i own probably to much if I’m honest

[lost pumice]

Do y'all think the new class will be more ranged or melee

[stable cypress]

they're gonna be OP with both

[placid fiber]

Probably ranged with pet support options, since there was a hound in the trailer

[stable cypress]

I'm totally cool with the cost of the class even compared to vt2 dlc classes being less b/c again, labor involved with 6 voice actor for tide games with so much dialogue is A Lot

more annoyed with the 500 aquila weapon skins being really shitty minor edits

[lucid nest]

If there is one thing I know about dark tide is that every class is OP so this one better is that too

[long oasis]

thats all of the weapon skins though

[obsidian prairie]

The current characters have 60,000 voice lines between them

[subtle sentinel]

I am only annoyed with the dlc solely cuz of how the shop is

[long oasis]

the shop will likely never get changed

[lost pumice]

The real question is what is the balance gonna be like for the new class at release. OP, weak, or just right

[lucid nest]

Yeah I’d like better weapon skins

[obsidian prairie]

Cole says middle of the road

[long oasis]

One thing that MBAs understand that gamers dont is that FOMO is literally a license to print money

[placid fiber]

and you know how magical my rock is? I didn't know the new doom was coming out until 2 hours before it was released <.<

[acoustic dune]

dog auto rez ally

[lost pumice]

Does he play test?

[subtle sentinel]

And I will not stop shitting on them for it

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

[lucid nest]

Atleast I can be girlbiter so I am happy ^^

[lost pumice]

Oh cool. That's good. Most games struggle with balance with new character release.

[lucid nest]

Don’t take that out of context plz I just realised what I said xD

[subtle sentinel]

What

[stable cypress]

its no problem because tide games struggle with character balance anyways

[subtle sentinel]

Does that even mean

[obsidian prairie]

I know what at least one of the personalities will be like cause she’s going to be played by Laezel

[placid fiber]

I'm pretty sure you gotta kiss the girls, and not bite them

[stable cypress]

some people are into biting

[placid fiber]

tru

[lost pumice]

Wonder when that zealot rework is gonna happen

[lucid nest]

Well some like biting UwU

[placid fiber]