zealot-class

[delicate shadow]

all I have to say about that is

[heady rapids]

nah nah nah

if you speak to him

in spanish

[undone pewter]

https://fixvx.com/JonesyFrotting/status/1923434328630997453

sarah (@JonesyFrotting)

WHO AT EPIC GENUINELY THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA 😭😭😭😭

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 16, 2025, 5:44 PM

[heady rapids]

he calls it the language of thugs and contrabandists

[heady rapids]

fucking lmao

[delicate shadow]

it's so bad

[sullen forge]

He did NOT

JUST FUCKING SAY GOON AND EDGE

🥀

[heady rapids]

he was probably baited to say that

[hexed igloo]

Fruity? Zesty? Sus? Bro just admit you're afraid to call me a slur

[heady rapids]

cause he remembers shit

inside a match

[sullen forge]

Lmao

I’m genuinely not surprised

[heady rapids]

https://fixvx.com/i/status/1923428065993957580

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

The Darth Vader AI teammate interacting with Peter Griffin in Fortnite.

(🎥: @banamnanbobross) https://t.co/79gQDWTSWo

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 16, 2025, 5:19 PM

[sullen forge]

Whenever AI gets added it ALWAYS gets baited to say horrible things

[heady rapids]

we had 3 palpatines in a group

[sullen forge]

Everytime

[heady rapids]

and he would literally call us

palpatine 1

palpatine 2

palpatine 3

[stone fern]

you guys talk shit but
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1366025620420694067/image.png?ex=68287e7f&is=68272cff&hm=439cf35a19f47e269cd9316b0c69a67baad2347b0af2dc4ddf38a03790173c68&

the forum has AI

[heady rapids]

doesnt discord have that

[stone fern]

the literal fatshark forum has AI

[heady rapids]

and it once summarized zealot chat as talking about femboys or some shit?

[stone fern]

ye that was a discord feature that got axed

[heady rapids]

actually sad

[stable cypress]

yeah idk maybe it fucking shouldn't?

[stone fern]

grok is this real?

[hard nexus]

rhymes with grug

[undone pewter]

gork is clad real

[stone fern]

grok how do i drink water?

[heady rapids]

i think they should replace xbox and playstation players with ai

just saying

https://tenor.com/view/neppico-gif-12490047082767817490

maybe ai could learn how to swap to melee

[stone fern]

man the AI situation is so fucking bad

my supervisor in uni is using AI to respond to me on texts

[heady rapids]

crazy

[sullen forge]

Gork and Mork how do I breathe?

AI reliance only increasing and it’s actively kneecapping game experiences as well

Not looking forward to it bros

[delicate shadow]

it's kneecapping everything it gets added to

[heady rapids]

as if we had good games

😔

[stone fern]

deepseek pls tell me the dangers of the rising use of AI

[delicate shadow]

like LLMs are dogshit outside very niche applications and these pricks are putting it into literally everything thinking it's some sci-fi supercomputer bullshit

[heady rapids]

you reminded me

[stone fern]

dude 90% of academia is AI now

[undone pewter]

We're hitting dotcom bubble 2 and that isn't good

[heady rapids]

what was that one site that used ai for cooking recipies

and it would make antrax cakes

or some shit

[stone fern]

at my grap theory class our teacher legit showed us him using chatgpt for solving one problem

[analog ember]

LLMs are a very powerful tool, but that’s what it is, a tool.

[hard nexus]

grap

[stone fern]

🙄

[hard nexus]

hey i’m one of those

[stone fern]

"graph"

[hard nexus]

grap

[analog ember]

Are you powerful though

[sullen forge]

Diabolical level truth nuke Aqui

[heady rapids]

never fails to make me laugh

[delicate shadow]

like you could develop an LLM implementation that would actually make sense for a procedurally generated type of game right but it'd need to be hella scaffolded and unique to that game

instead they're just plugging in chatGPT n shit and calling it a day

[sullen forge]

AI seriously just shouldn’t be in everything

[delicate shadow]

it should be in next to nothing tbh

[hard nexus]

depends on how tired i am

there’s a positive relationship depending on how tired i am and how powerful i am

[delicate shadow]

like it has zero place as a replacement for fuckin' actual human problem solving

[sullen forge]

The rise in people using AI for source checking will also never, not be fucking hilarious

Like is it that hard to check 2 sources

[delicate shadow]

for me it's caffeine intake based

[heady rapids]

grok is this true

[hard nexus]

no the more tired i am, the more powerful

[analog ember]

nah there's genuinely a lot of good uses for AI, but people just treat it as a silver bullet to solve all their life's problems

[delicate shadow]

legit it's ruining people's ability to do research and critical thinking

[stone fern]

nah see thats where i disagree

[median steeple]

@grok this true?

[sullen forge]

Gork is this git true?

[delicate shadow]

yea caffeine makes me less powerful and more normal

[stone fern]

using chatgpt to fucking process 5k lines of terminal output legit saved me hours of work

[heady rapids]

i asked deepseek to make me a zealot build

lets see

[analog ember]

starts spewing elon's political takes

[heady rapids]

IT MADE

THUNDER HAMMER FLAMER MARTYRDOM

HOLY SHIT

clad.ai

[stone fern]

actually

[heady rapids]

i shit you not

[stone fern]

it would be thammer boltpistol

but close enough

[heady rapids]

it recommends gunner res also

what the fuck

[stone fern]

shit should i ask about breakpoints?

ask it about perks for thammer

[heady rapids]

it doesnt know talents or anything

just the general

things

[stone fern]

🤔

[subtle sentinel]

Using solely class specific weapons huh?

Kinda sick

[stone fern]

i wonder if i tell it how good my build is until it starts recommending it

[heady rapids]

it doesnt know

[stone fern]

im sure they use user data to train

[heady rapids]

IT ADDED THIS AT THE END HAHAHAA

@stone fern holy shit werent you the one who actually ran caxe with piety

clad.ai

[stone fern]

no

[heady rapids]

who was that

fuck!

[stone fern]

i dont play piety

i used chatgpt to create admech litanies to bless my vms unironically

it worked

[heady rapids]

lmao

[stone fern]

i then asked it to make me a motivational speech in the words of saint celestine and it fucking died

it thonked for 5 minutes and glitched out

[heady rapids]

all i know that deepseek kills itself if you make it say xi jinping

[median steeple]

Google AI is so bad

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/aitor-gif-7084060237011549479

[heady rapids]

every time im watching a game show of any kind

their summary on youtube will tell me how bloodborne is coming up

[stone fern]

AAAAINZZZ why is maniac recommended for thammer? is it for empowered lights on ragers or what?

[plush estuary]

empowered lights

[stone fern]

yeah thought so but that doesnt help ironhelm much

[plush estuary]

I wouldn't force my worst enemies to use the ironhelm

[stone fern]

gemini im feeling depressed rn

elite unyielding lets u two tap bulwarks with empowered lights on ironhelm its comfy

[mighty root]

Live footage of me eating ironhelm users

[subtle sentinel]

God, I really want a good flamer

[mighty root]

I wish the flamer was overheat

[stone fern]

hi

[mighty root]

CHUD?

I need dat

[misty nova]

💀

[mighty root]

Clad please

[acoustic dune]

wh

[stone fern]

aaaaAAAA IM STUCK

[mighty root]

I’ve never begged you for anything

[acoustic dune]

what tf is hapenning

from chud to 4d

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[stone fern]

IM STUCK I CANT TAKE OFF THE TAGS ONLY REPLACE THEM

my options are chud or tanner tag

AAAAAA

[mighty root]

Same

[stone fern]

mods please save me this discord must have enough members for a tag

[mighty root]

I can’t change it

[stone fern]

😭

[mighty root]

We have the mark

[mighty root]

We are cursed

[acoustic dune]

me right now

[stone fern]

dude were so fucked

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[stone fern]

we need to leave...

[mighty root]

Naur…..

[stone fern]

lets go to leopard island

[mighty root]

We need to play ultrakill

[acoustic dune]

ultrakrill

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/minos-prime-ultrakill-gif-27016097

https://tenor.com/view/gon-power-anime-hunter-x-hunter-hxh-gif-17329022

@stone fern the chud flows through me

[stone fern]

anyone wanna play a quick game before bed?

i havent played thammer in so long

[plush estuary]

whatever

go my smokes

(was 4 smoke nades)

[proper vortex]

what's the best way to complete the Just a fles wound penance?

[sullen forge]

with Grenade Tinkerer?

[plush estuary]

no 😔

[hard nexus]

twins or rolling steel

[acoustic dune]

maybe like

4d chess?

[proper vortex]

thx

[plush estuary]

@sullen forge Psword Dbarrel smokes

[sullen forge]

I fucking WISH

PSword wasn't the end all be all melee choice cause I despise its mobility

[plush estuary]

weapon spec makes the dodge distance

better

and fast proc with a fast swap like Dbarrel

[sullen forge]

I'd say that'

is probably the big redeeming factor is the "If" you run WS

but Im mainly running FT

[modern lintel]

i inadvertently duod some auric w a weapon spec dbarrel vet the other day and they had some automated red text send out at the end of the match then immediately left

they were p good

[stone fern]

i hate A-1-2 maelstroms so much

nothing spawns

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277677568702681128/1373088839672926288/oop.mp4?ex=68292422&is=6827d2a2&hm=eb677be16e4f33b8a2dcb60f7564e1d08e80347ca3a587363bc7d99d08a056d3&

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

go to sleep clad

[stone fern]

soon

[acoustic dune]

should have stayed as chudster

[subtle sentinel]

Weird ahh gif

[stone fern]

vaxxed

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/awww-chicken-puppy-friends-cute-gif-20011776

[subtle sentinel]

60% mobility infantry autogun oof

Do I get that

I will

[undone pewter]

yes?

[acoustic dune]

most range weapon dump stat is mobility

and or the stat that make you stagger enemy

[subtle sentinel]

I wanted a vigilant autogun but meh might use it sometime

Doesn't hurt to have a perfect gun

[obsidian prairie]

I will always buy optimally rolled bases

[analog ember]

never know when you might need it someday

[obsidian prairie]

I’ve got like 10+ unupgraded ones sitting on my zealot

More I think on my psyker

I once managed to pull 5 perfect bases off a single rotation

[subtle sentinel]

Blazing piety is

Really easy to keep up lmao

[subtle sentinel]

I dont like how it looks sadly

Another crash ffs

How do I get that dash at mutie and kill penance

I shoot it twice with boltgun,

Rush, melee, it does

Dies

Do I need to one shot

[obsidian prairie]

Its literally just kill things

[static junco]

Imagine zealot can use stubber because the dregs looks like zealots

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah I was worried about enemy density cuz I play on like malice

But it was up pretty much all the time

Lmao

"play 4 of each game type on heresy or above"

I never played heresy, yet they are all 3/4

[proper vortex]

I got it while playing on uprising, using an assault chainsword, I was already able to oneshot mutie, it's just a question of timing, use chastise the wicked and while dashing, before you hit the mutie start charging your heavy attack, bascially making it so the first thing that hits is the sword and not the dash

[main belfry]

hello brothers and sisters, hoping for input on something. I really want to like the purgation flamer, but the range from my revolver is hard to give up because of snipers/gunners. I’m probably just a noob, but I can only feel comfortable using the flamer if I’m going with invisibility and knives to handle those “pinned-down” situations. I’d like to experiment more with builds that use the flame grenades and/or the relic instead, but it’s not quite clicking. Anyone have build recommendations or gameplay tips?

[pale spindle]

Ok so

Imagine 50 ragers coming towards you

[proper vortex]

basically step by step:
rev weapon or whatever you have, if you don't just skip this step
start chastise the wicked
while dashing start holding heavy attack
before the dash from chastise the wicked hits the mutant, let go of the heavy attack so it goes through before the dash does its damage

[proper vortex]

but yeah very important to have a very high damage weapon, if you don't you'll have to leave it on low hp before you attempt it, which is harder, just grab one of the chainswords, thunder hammer/club or even just the combat axe if it has enough damage

[crimson ravine]

what are good dump stats for flamer?

[misty nova]

Damage then mobility

[subtle sentinel]

Does it HAVE TO be a one shot?

Or if it lost even 1 HP does it not count?

Infantry autogun is... fast

Very fast

Shoots fast, reloads fast

Me no likey

[proper vortex]

you have to kill it mid dash, which means that if you hit it with the dash first it doesn't count, it has to die to melee

now how you kill, meaning the amount of damage needed is up to you, I think it's easier to just get a high damage weapon and then play easier difficulty mission to guarantee the one-shot

I think that getting it low health first is just harder because then anything can kill it, including teammates, explosive barrels, etc

[obsidian prairie]

Just use a heavy sword

[subtle sentinel]

I dashed into it and hit it and killed it so many times

When exactly am I supposed to fit

Hit

Can I even charge while dashing

God, 1500 stuns is also gonna take ages, who designed these I just want an eyepatch

[hard nexus]

u can see if u can duo with a vet that has field improv

so an ammo crate is 12 stuns

which is a pretty significant portion of that penance

or u can use MMT

and farm the beginning of

uhh

carnival

and repeat it over n over

[nimble fiber]

[subtle sentinel]

MMT?

[subtle sentinel]

None of my friends play recently sadly

[merry flume]

they added horse to darktide today

https://tenor.com/view/xd-horses-gif-19635108

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/gyro-gif-20502660

[median steeple]

Many More Tries, it allows you to replay missions you've saved

[clever swan]

or that you find on the website which saves every mission ever

[hard nexus]

many more tries mod

what psycho said

[hard nexus]

maelstrom.net

[clever swan]

that one is less good

https://otwako.github.io/darktide-mission/

[plush estuary]

@sullen forge

Dbarrel gaming

[bitter anvil]

high sensitive mouse camera spin

[hexed igloo]

I have my mouse set to comically high dpi I love doing the mouse spin

I'll dive in helldivers and do 2 full barrel rolls before I hit the ground

[jagged cradle]

Db power sword?

Are you even the real ainz

[plush estuary]

Smoke nades

[jagged cradle]

Kinda based

That’s my YouTuber

[plush estuary]

What vid should I do next

I might do commentary on the next one

[jagged cradle]

Commentary always helps

And it’s a good measure

[winter oxide]

shock maul havoc 40 solo

next

[visual stream]

Do I dork my tide or play Total Warhammer and make little dudes on a map turn the map a different color

[jagged cradle]

@copper hawk you can have this

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-turn-you-into-a-catboy-anime-felix-argyle-catboy-gif-2571359001993904419

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747186322745196665/1345047632669839370/police.gif

[jagged cradle]

Is he floating

Oh right I gotta do space dudes at some point

[delicate shadow]

Karnak Twins ASMR

[visual stream]

Getting GPU crashes in Darktide for first time

[plush estuary]

Maybe like 100% volume. No hud, 3rd person twins hard mode solo

[delicate shadow]

close enough

[spare talon]

its a cooking video but with well placed voicelines during it

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-heretic-traitor-chaos-warhammer-40k-gif-7333227629820634248

the squad getting ready to make jerk chicken

[sullen forge]

Pan to the chicken burning

and wolfer's line just sighing

[timber wigeon]

No one suspects the inquistion

[copper hawk]

I already am pne

One

[jagged cradle]

But now you can make other people pne too

Yw

[copper hawk]

@sullen forge the roblox zombie game is awesome

https://www.tfxktok.com/t/ZTjaNMXvL/

[median steeple]

Rot

Peak

[copper hawk]

Im booooored

Who wanna tuoys w me .

[hearty nebula]

i can toyz...

gimme a sec i just wokes up

[copper hawk]

Zame

Bee are bee

[hearty nebula]

i is ready

[delicate shadow]

that's a hell of an early wake up

[acoustic dune]

zealot chat lady and gents

[copper hawk]

hawk Tu Ah

[copper hawk]

i have one day off

i have to squeeze as much out of it as possible

like a roll of toof pasta

[frosty herald]

cica its 10:30 am in europe

[copper hawk]

i am addicted to this stupid roblox game

[copper hawk]

it's actually insane how well made it is

beyond steam quality

[subtle sentinel]

You can save missions?

[copper hawk]

with a mod

many more tries

MMT

[subtle sentinel]

What exactly does "saving missions" even mean

[copper hawk]

Exactly as it says as written

You save a mission on the board for later

So you can play it over and over

They last for a 24hr period

You can also go on a website to find seeds for particular maels you wanna do

And you can input that seed to play it

Save it etc

These can only be done in private games but you still get rewards

[modern lintel]

backup helped me get one of my penances with it played like 30 back to back rolling steels

[copper hawk]

@sullen forge WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/gnarpy-why-u-so-gnarp-gnarp-gif-6016285324270628240

[acoustic dune]

anyone wanna play poopdiver?

2?

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-you-a-lot-david-barrera-gif-9120924250189534105

[elfin thorn]

if ur in havocs without a flamer and ur using dueling sword, are u just fucked lol

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah.

Ds users without flamer can't kill anything hordewise.

[hushed knoll]

Omg frogcast hi

[grizzled aspen]

Though, most ds users can't kill anything anyway, because they're busy polishing the floor with their forehead.

[hushed knoll]

Where are the cat’s eyes

[elfin thorn]

psyker cat

[grizzled aspen]

Even a little bit of poop is too much poop, and therefore, I do not shit myself on that particular day at that particular time.

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[copper hawk]

Reverse cards u

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-clair-obscur-33-expedition-gif-16480299868670081259

[spare talon]

I have a reverse immunity shield so I'm immune to all reverses

[copper hawk]

U were THAT kid on the playground

[spare talon]

Better luck next time

[copper hawk]

Figurez ,,

[hushed knoll]

??????

[spare talon]

I actually wasn't
I was the one getting fed up with their shit

[grizzled aspen]

Yup, Stan is gonna poop himself that day.

[hushed knoll]

I have never shit myself

[grizzled aspen]

Liar.

Everyone over the age of 21 has shit themselves at some point.

[hushed knoll]

Maybe when I was a baby

[spare talon]

Frog you can't nerd react me cuz I'm able to dodge all reactions I don't like

[hushed knoll]

What

[spare talon]

That's not fair that's cheating

[copper hawk]

i love this roblox game.

[grizzled aspen]

I said what I said, there are no exceptions.

[spare talon]

Take it off

[hushed knoll]

Why over 21

[grizzled aspen]

21 is legal drinking age in America.

[hushed knoll]

Are you saying all people get so drunk they shit themselves

[grizzled aspen]

So if you haven't managed to crap yourself up to that point, you will when you get drunk for the first time, likely on your birthday.

[hushed knoll]

What

[spare talon]

Is there a lore reason why smough busts a move here

[hushed knoll]

I’ve been drunk and never shit myself

[frosty herald]

esquie is just really chill

[grizzled aspen]

That aint Smough.

[grizzled aspen]

Then you shit yourself before then, checkmate.

[spare talon]

You're right mb
I meant ornstein

[hushed knoll]

You got fuckin rekt

[hushed knoll]

No. There’s no checkmate

[grizzled aspen]

No dude that's clearly Siegward.

Look at how round and normal his proportions are.

[hushed knoll]

That game freaks me out

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-clair-obscur-expedition-33-gestral-meme-gif-7404804143102906901

[subtle sentinel]

Why 21 specifically

[grizzled aspen]

I literally just said.

[subtle sentinel]

Know what else is fine?

[frosty herald]

a rolling stone gathers no moss

[subtle sentinel]

Wha

[subtle sentinel]

Discord did not load

[acoustic dune]

rolling stone?

[frosty herald]

sometimes you feel wheeee! sometimes you feel whoooo!

[acoustic dune]

https://open.spotify.com/track/63T7DJ1AFDD6Bn8VzG6JE8?si=aba8ace1cb1b43bc

[subtle sentinel]

That fiddle when you win a mission is so awesome

[cold patrol]

anyone wanna help a brother do Just a Flesh Wound? I have a Heresy train mission registered in MMT to make it easier

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/youve-got-to-be-kydding-me-jesper-kyd-bsod-gif-3813363666672108639

[subtle sentinel]

Why

[small kernel]

how is the monstrosity damage with relic blade? havent used one yet

[spare talon]

Jesper kyd (the guy in the gif) is the composer of the ost

[subtle sentinel]

Hell yeah 60 mobility anointed evis in shop

[subtle sentinel]

Oh lmao

[spare talon]

https://www.twitch.tv/khandones2/clip/NimbleCuriousMosquitoNotLikeThis-zmnrz_Wg1BSmNp2Z

[subtle sentinel]

AND a heavy sword

AND a recon lasgun

[small kernel]

which mk is that if there are multiple and also how is the horde clear on it

same as the vet one? just power up and slash into the horde?

[spare talon]

Either mark
Mk2 is more complex but will serve you better if you learn it's moveset fully (this one)
The mk10 is a little slower and has a babified moveset making it a much easier one to start out with
Both have insane horde clear and damage into basically any target when charged, and it has an overheat mechanic where duration of use and attacks generate heat, and fully filling up the bar will lock you out of the charged mode till it fully decays, but you can also just manually turn it off

[subtle sentinel]

Been having so much fun with combat axe

[spare talon]

Also minor tip, activating/deactivating the relic blade considers you in a blocked state

[subtle sentinel]

Joined a heresy

3 zealots

We are cooked

[small kernel]

oh the powered up mode is toggle now? not per couple swings like before?

[spare talon]

It was a completely new mechanic on launch compared to the existing vet power swords

[small kernel]

is the vet ones still same?

[spare talon]

Yes

[small kernel]

while talking about weapons, are there any faster way of getting mastery? sacrificing weapons seem to give barely any

[subtle sentinel]

Got trapped and got violated by 2 flamers

[spare talon]

Are you sacrificing weapons from different subfamilies

[subtle sentinel]

Fun

[spare talon]

Cuz that's why

[cold patrol]

higher level weapons give more mastery

[subtle sentinel]

Sacrifice the same weapon gives 5x more

[subtle sentinel]

Higher rarity?

[spare talon]

But not enough to matter

[subtle sentinel]

Grade whatever

[cold patrol]

no, higher power

[small kernel]

makes sense, is it ever worth just upgrading ones rarity to sacrifice? or is that just waste of mats

[subtle sentinel]

Blegh

[empty crater]

its worth if u have a lot of extra mats

[spare talon]

Not worth
You may need to upgrade to green so it's viable to sacrifice to begin with

[empty crater]

but if ur lacking in mats i wouldnt do it maybe for like meta weapons sure but outside of that its not a great investment

[subtle sentinel]

Just buy more weapons instead

[spare talon]

Completing mastery from sacrificing alone takes roughly 30 green weapons, which costs about 300,000 dockets and 3000 plasteel to buy

[empty crater]

yeah u can buy green and blues from the shop

[small kernel]

not even close to just dumping as i havent played in a year

[cold patrol]

that's a lot of adamantine

... lol, nevermind

[spare talon]

I've been capped on dockets at 25m for a out a year and have 1.5m plasteel and 760k diamantine lmao

[cold patrol]

so uh... no one wants to help for Just a Flesh Wound? 😦

[spare talon]

I am literally in bed preparing to sleep (6:30 am)

[empty crater]

chug a white monster

degen hours

[cold patrol]

haha, well sleep well then

[spare talon]

No that's reserved for when I wake up for work

[copper hawk]

White Meownster

i have 2 in my fridge..

2.. elixirs..

[subtle sentinel]

when using scoreboard mode

Is there a way to hide it

Cuz it covers my talents, my tracked penances, EVERYTHING

[grizzled aspen]

Go into the mod file, theres a line in it somewhere you can edit that affects the placement on the screen.

You'll have to pick which side you want to cover, though.

[subtle sentinel]

Is stalwart better than fury rising btw

[grizzled aspen]

Depends on the loadout.

Right side piety is for weapons that depend on crits for functionality, left is not.

For example, relic blade doesn't need crits as it's already the heretic lawnmower 9000, so you take left side (without the 2nd node btw), but if you were, say, using dclaw, you take right side, because non crit flak adm sucks.

The crit flak adm on dclaw still sucks but it sucks less.

[subtle sentinel]

Does bolt pistol with surgical and deadly accurate and combat axe need crits?

I kinda wanna use the damage reduction one

I really wanna pick that +2 wound talent just for more peace of mind and THAT LAST WOUND EFFECT IS SO ANNOYING

Is picking that instead of another talent more detrimental than +1 wound curio instead of a tuff curio?

[vocal pulsar]

never wound curio unless martyr, or new to game

the wound talent is acceptable depending on the rest of the build

[subtle sentinel]

I picked the blazing pietu

Piety

Knives, duelist, and damage reduction aura

[subtle sentinel]

This btw

Damage reduction + crit sounds better than just more crit

[elfin thorn]

there's a mod to neuter that effect

idk what it's called but it's probably some semi obvious one on nexusmods

[subtle sentinel]

It is EXTREMELY annoying straight up makes it unplayable

[stone fern]

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[elfin thorn]

you really dislike the grey filter that much?

[elfin thorn]

there's a zealot guide in the pins

i was trying to check ito ut for you, but my new puppies are being a hasslea nd im tired

[placid fiber]

caxe isn't really a crit weapon

[elfin thorn]

bad finesse values?

[placid fiber]

1 shots trash mobs and most enemies are 1 or 2 shot making scourge unable to stack on anything besides monsters really

and losing +damage makes 1 shots less guaranteed

It's better as a marty/ij weapon than a piety weapon

crit caxe isn't as bad as crit thammer, but, it isn't really good either

[elfin thorn]

surely this will help scourge crit uptime

[placid fiber]

[north sedge]

Disable screen effects

[elfin thorn]

only semi obvious 😂

[subtle sentinel]

Sick

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah

Especially when health gets even lower I can't see shit

[elfin thorn]

understandable

i like it for immersion, but to each their own

i don't quite understand the latter phrase, but i know how to use it at least 🥸

aside axe, surgical will help you reach crits, or at worst can try to help u gamble for crits b4 u have to stop ads-ing, so nothing too much to worry there

bonus dr and crit ability regen. best of all worlds

i'm gonna re-attempt ij thammer to see if i like it; normally i do marty. gonna hop in some havocs - remind me again why bolter is an ideal pair with thammer?

it was mobility and fairly okay bodyshot breakpoints yeah? thinking if i should equip flamer for horde clear, but i feel ij would help out via better kiting?

[subtle sentinel]

Health gets low and the screen gets even darker

The vignette makes it hard to focus on anything

[elfin thorn]

nah not that, i meant "to each their own"

[subtle sentinel]

Ah

[elfin thorn]

oh that grey screen effect is called vignette? first time i hear that word

[subtle sentinel]

Everyone likes their own thing ig

[subtle sentinel]

The black effect around the edges

Like it gets bigger and bigger as your health gets low, the vision gets narrower

It is annoying

[elfin thorn]

ohhh. i recall seeing that effect in big detail for monster hunter

only game i recall where i noticed and went lol weird. i could adapt with it or without it

[elfin thorn]

gets more cluttery when ur toughness breaks too yeah

i forget what is the cluttery though. blood? even more darkened when u break tough? i'm about to find out soon

[subtle sentinel]

Me boltah now has a skin!

[subtle sentinel]

I hate the hanging mechanic

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosolostan-gif-22443651

[subtle sentinel]

Fym I can't just climb up a ledge

[placid fiber]

but I'm just too weaksauce

right now

5 more minutes mom

zzz

https://tenor.com/view/hiding-under-covers-tired-sleepy-hiding-under-blanket-good-night-gif-19864771

[sullen forge]

IM AT WORK YOU BUM

Also good to hear it’s fun

[subtle sentinel]

Oh

My

God

60% damage flamer

Why is damage the dump stat for it? All the actual damage comes from the burn?

Let's keep the luck going and buy a thunder hammer!

Are you kidding me

What is the dump stat for thunder hammer?

[grizzled aspen]

Defences.

[violet hornet]

Defense iirc

[subtle sentinel]

Fuck

Mine has 60 penetration

Hammer is very fun but I don't get how the flamer should be used

Barely any damage, takes ages to kill ANYTHING

Damage being dump makes no sense to me

[grizzled aspen]

Are you puffing the enemies or are you holding m2?

Also what is your current burn stat at?

[subtle sentinel]

Both

Nothing does anything

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, stop puffing, its a waste of ammo.

[subtle sentinel]

I just got the thing I forgot

Trying it on malice

[subtle sentinel]

Holding m2 slows me down to a snail

[grizzled aspen]

It's intended.

Flamer kills everything that you point it at.

[subtle sentinel]

What am I supposed to even use it for

Build it for crit?

[grizzled aspen]

Dense, packed elites.

[acoustic dune]

horde

of elite

[grizzled aspen]

i.e. 12 maulers are trying to rip off your face.

[acoustic dune]

crusher

[grizzled aspen]

Burn them.

[acoustic dune]

ur mom

[subtle sentinel]

It would be easier to just melee and dodge them all

[grizzled aspen]

Don't burn crushers unless you've got pen flames.

[acoustic dune]

yeah but that take time

[grizzled aspen]

Cara adm for fire is bad.

[acoustic dune]

and theres a crusher behind you

[grizzled aspen]

Post your flamer as it is rn.

[placid fiber]

are you using the thammer with a crit build?

[subtle sentinel]

No?

Thunder hammer shakes the screen insanely it makes me dizzy

[placid fiber]

did you turn off screen shake?

[subtle sentinel]

Flamer does no damage, has very little ammo, eats through it like butter, takes ages to reload, slow as hell

[placid fiber]

Uh flamer melts elite groups

[subtle sentinel]

There is literally no reason to use this thing is so annoying

[placid fiber]

You're just bad with it

[subtle sentinel]

I just got it, didn't put anything on it

How tf am I supposed to, if I can't use it as is rn

I will just go back to bistol this is dogshit

By the time I set a group on fire someone else killed them anyway

[grizzled aspen]

If there's nothing on it and you haven't upgraded it, of course it isn't going to be good.

[subtle sentinel]

Literally anything would do it faster

[subtle sentinel]

Other weapons are still fun and good to use on malice

[copper hawk]

ok

and

leave

tuoys.

now.

[subtle sentinel]

And not straight up useless

I am not gonna spend weeks of resources just to see if it works when built

[placid fiber]

Anything has infinite cleave and can melt entire elite groups?

[grizzled aspen]

malice

You aren't going to see it be useful at all in malice.

[placid fiber]

Also flamer is literally better the higher the difficulty goes

[subtle sentinel]

Cool

[grizzled aspen]

The denser the enemies, the more usage you will see out of it.

[subtle sentinel]

So it is literally useless in most of my gameplay, sick

I am selling that shit

[grizzled aspen]

You can quite literally overflow the kill feed in higher difficulties with it.

[subtle sentinel]

Well I am not gonna spend days building that thing just so I can use it on a few difficulties sometimes

[grizzled aspen]

[subtle sentinel]

Bolt pistol was good with nothing, still good

[grizzled aspen]

Was just trying to help ya out.

[subtle sentinel]

This thing has literally 0 upsides, I despise it now

By the time a fodder enemy dies there is a horde around me

The damage is abysmal

[grizzled aspen]

(the burn stat needs to be at least 76% for it to stack fire fast enough to kill things)

((you can stop with the berating of our beloved flamer now))

[subtle sentinel]

Ah so I gotta nearly max it out for it to be of any use

Yeah that's a terribly designed weapon.

I get mastery mostly by using the stuff

[placid fiber]

I mean if you don't use the weapon right on the intended difficulty it sucks, which is on you not us

[heady rapids]

yeah it's pretty bad in the sense that a lot of people agree that it ruins high difficulty balancing and should be nerfed

[grizzled aspen]

infinite cleave
great damage scaling against everything that isn't carapace to dot's (everything that isn't a crusher)
half the problem was an operator error (the operator was using m1 puffs)

[placid fiber]

and using it on malice

[grizzled aspen]

Unironically fire damage needs nerfed and flamers direct damage needs to be better.

That's the only way you can change it without having a re enactment of the power sword nerf review bombing.

[subtle sentinel]

If you don't use the weapon in a specific way against specific enemies in a specific difficulty it sucks

Then yeah, it sucks

[placid fiber]

You mean using so it does burn damage to more than a small amount of enemies?

[subtle sentinel]

Using so it takes ages to kill a bunch of fodder you can take down in seconds with an axe or smth?

[grizzled aspen]

I think there's no point in continuing this conversation tbh.

[placid fiber]

Yeah

They're set in malice so it's on them

[grizzled aspen]

Until you decide to move up in your preferred difficulty, you will be stuck thinking the flamer sucks.

And I'm not trying to be backhanded about it, that's just the way it is, and I'm sorry.

[subtle sentinel]

I am not gonna get on damnation or heresy with randoms with an unbuilt weapon I am not stupid.

[grizzled aspen]

I mean...

I did...

A lot...

[subtle sentinel]

Ew

[grizzled aspen]

Mfw shredder autopistol right out the gate into auric damn maels the moment Ainz said it wasn't completely dogshit anymore:

[subtle sentinel]

If it is taking so long kill even malice fodder it won't do shit on heresy

[grizzled aspen]

(he was right)

[heady rapids]

pfftopic but I had a guy once call me selfish and said he avoids people like me cause I don't run wounds

then call ancient a fed

[placid fiber]

You mean by puffing them with the attack that staggers enemies instead of killing them?

[grizzled aspen]

Well, is Ancient a fed?

[grizzled aspen]

Let it go.

[heady rapids]

he's a darktide tester that's like 50% fed already

[subtle sentinel]

I AM USING THE FUCKING SWEEP

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I'm done. It's pathetic at this point

[grizzled aspen]

Let's not insult people.

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/neppico-gif-12490047082767817490

[grizzled aspen]

At least, not the ones that don't deserve it.

Insult @stone fern instead.

:)

[grizzled aspen]

What servers are you on?

[violet hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLBwqGUfjlY

[placid fiber]

Still got my clip of this lol

[subtle sentinel]

Why?

[grizzled aspen]

I'm bored and need a break from Stellaris.

Made a research habitat that does... this.

[subtle sentinel]

So what, I don't touch the flamer until I have enough money to buy a shit ton of flamers, max mastery it, max it out in like 2-3 weeks, get used to damnation THEN start using the fucking gun?

Do you see how that sounds?

[placid fiber]

My flamer isn't even maxed on mobility and damage

[grizzled aspen]

Knights of the toxic god is a funny origin.

[hollow meteor]

Well, not the Flamer's fault that everything is dying before you use it

[grizzled aspen]

I am creating a second one.

[hollow meteor]

That's the point of the Flamer, things that won't die fast enough and in big hordes are Flamer food

[subtle sentinel]

I would have much more fun and be much faster with literally anything else if this thing needs weeks of investment to be even usable.

[grizzled aspen]

It's not even really "weeks" though.

[sullen forge]

May you be attacked by 10 Zuirrassiers at once

[grizzled aspen]

It's just getting it up to 76% burn.

[subtle sentinel]

I don't have time to play like 10 hours a day

[placid fiber]

76% burn and 80% cloud radius are the main hurdles

[grizzled aspen]

Neither do I lol.

[placid fiber]

as if anyone does

[hollow meteor]

If everything is dying before the Flamer can be used, then that's not a Flamer problem. That's even an issue on Damnation

[subtle sentinel]

I play like 1 or 2 matches a day.

[grizzled aspen]

I'm fortunately off for the next 2 days so I get plenty of time for now, but usually I get 2-3 matches before/after I go to/get off from work.

[subtle sentinel]

Why the fuck did the first flamer I get have to have perfect stats

[winter oxide]

flamer is broken

[subtle sentinel]

Should have used that luck on smth else

[subtle sentinel]

With enough investment to bankrupt zimbabve I guess

[winter oxide]

it only takes a few matches to max it out

[violet hornet]

As long as a weapon has one clear stat to dump it's usually not hard to get a perfect base

[placid fiber]

they're playing on malice, right now

[winter oxide]

oh

lol

[subtle sentinel]

Not everyone plays the highest difficulty casually with an unbuilt weapon.

Bolt pistol was fun and useful when I first got it, it is nearly maxed now, still really fun and useful and I can't even tell what changed

[hollow meteor]

Are you sure? Lol

[grizzled aspen]

I think you might be way overestimating the difficulty of higher tiers.

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah

[hollow meteor]

Chat, does he know?

[grizzled aspen]

Again, let's not be rude.

[subtle sentinel]

God your brain has rotten

[winter oxide]

most of the players I see in auric maelstrom use barely upgraded weapons

[grizzled aspen]

[subtle sentinel]

And that's not everyone

[winter oxide]

I dont think it will be a problem

[hollow meteor]

No thanks, I'm good

[grizzled aspen]

The GOAT in my lobby with a 1% damage knife:

[hollow meteor]

Besides, in Damnations/Aurics, many people run unoptimized weapons and loadouts

[elfin thorn]

^

[hollow meteor]

Those difficulties are skill checks more than anything

[subtle sentinel]

"Erm, people use literal trash on the highest difficulty the game has actually, it is easy" we get it you are an elitist

[elfin thorn]

i remember a guy wanting to join my havoc team. green curios

[hollow meteor]

And you missed the point

[subtle sentinel]

Their color barely change anything

[winter oxide]

No one cares about builds unless it's havoc

[elfin thorn]

he was a cute guy i let him in. wasn't doing well but we all shook hands in the end

[grizzled aspen]

Being good at the game =/= elitist.

[winter oxide]

Auric maelstrom is not the hardest difficulty in the game

[subtle sentinel]

Expecting someone who has been playing for 2 weeks to perform well on the highest difficulty with a dogshit weapon = elitist.

[elfin thorn]

+2 wounds and dmg resistance vs grenade boys. i guess i should've included that haha

[grizzled aspen]

Elitism would be being hateful that you are not using a 100% optimized build, but we are trying to give guidance and you are stubbornly refusing to listen.

[subtle sentinel]

Grenade res? Why?

[elfin thorn]

idk. i think they were just the latest curios they had tbh. i didn't ask

[winter oxide]

Nobody is expecting you to perform well either, just queue up and play

[grizzled aspen]

Isn't bomber res still bugged to be only their melee attacks or did they fix that?

[subtle sentinel]

The guidance here being "Just jump into difficulties you KNOW you can't do just to have your unupgraded weapon feel useful and grief the entire team"

[elfin thorn]

i think it got fixed, but wouldn't buy too much time me thinks

[hollow meteor]

No one is expecting you to perform well on the highest difficulty, but the highest difficulty isn't locked behind perfect weapons is the point

[violet hornet]

Just queue for auric maelstrom and have some megachad carry you, it's that shrimple

[grizzled aspen]

I think you are missing the point we are saying, flamer is a weapon made to carry you into higher difficulties.

[violet hornet]

70k exp ez

[subtle sentinel]

I would like to actually play the game

[grizzled aspen]

Fire damage does not care how the weapon is made.

The only thing that matters on it is the burn stat, which affects how fast fire stacks are applied.

[subtle sentinel]

With how slow it makes me walk, how fast it runs out of ammo, and how slowly it reloads, I doubt it is gonna do jack shit.

[winter oxide]

ok I've read enough

[grizzled aspen]

That's the thing, it will force you to learn positioning.

[winter oxide]

🙏

[subtle sentinel]

And to get that to 78% you gotta pretty much max out the weapon.

[grizzled aspen]

Did I say it was 100% necessary that you have it there before you play with it?

No.

[subtle sentinel]

I have seen the damage it does, it kills literally nothing on malice

[grizzled aspen]

76% is the threshold where it applies stacks the fastest.

[placid fiber]

And what was the burn stat on it?

[subtle sentinel]

It is not gonna do shit to enemies with even higher stats as is.

[subtle sentinel]

I JUST GOT IT

[placid fiber]

WHAT WAS THE BURN STAT ON IT?!

[subtle sentinel]

Something out of 80 I don't fucking know

[grizzled aspen]

I'm actually about to fix my medal recording and run a white flamer with base stats rolled from brunt to prove a point.

[placid fiber]

You say it does nothing WITHOUT KNOWING THE MAIN DAMAGE STAT ON IT

[subtle sentinel]

Is it the mark that sucks?

[grizzled aspen]

...mark..?

[placid fiber]

God

[subtle sentinel]

63

Fucking 63

Happy?

[grizzled aspen]

63 is good enough.

[subtle sentinel]

And it did NOTHING

[placid fiber]

63% still is enough to kill stuff

[grizzled aspen]

Cloud radius?

[mild sparrow]

Unplayable

[subtle sentinel]

49

/80

[grizzled aspen]

Ah that's whats getting you then.

[placid fiber]

no wonder why it felt bad

[grizzled aspen]

Low cloud radius kinda hurts.

[subtle sentinel]

What?

[placid fiber]

Terrible cloud radius on top of lower burn

[grizzled aspen]

Cloud radius affects the hitbox of the fire.

[subtle sentinel]

CUZ IT IS NOT UPGRADED?

Are you dumb?

[grizzled aspen]

Bigger %, bigger cloud.

[subtle sentinel]

30/143 ammo that's not enough for ANYTHING

[grizzled aspen]

However, it does not affect the damage you deal with fire. It just means you cant spray as many things.

[subtle sentinel]

The gun doesn't even have any marks, this is just it

[winter oxide]

yes, the weapon that is not upgraded feels bad to use

[placid fiber]

Like yeah you don't need to like the flamer, but, you're spewing knowledge from inexperience... I can say something sucks all I want 2 weeks in, it doesn't make it true

[grizzled aspen]

I'm about to banish this person to the psyker dimension so they can play with a white purg staff.

Without kinetic flayer.

[subtle sentinel]

Then why do you care

[subtle sentinel]

Which isn't the case on lower difficulties with literally any other weapon, so I can use them and get mastery and train with them

[placid fiber]

careful, every weapon has to feel godly immediately

[grizzled aspen]

Krait, I think it would be best if you use things you are comfortable with for now, and once you have racked up some materials, get a flamer.

[subtle sentinel]

Why does shock and awe reduce less hit mass as I upgrade it?

[mild sparrow]

There's a blessing that refills your magazine as you fire. Strongly recommend it when you get it. Combined with the blessing that increases damage through ammo use, it gives the flamer a lot of power.

But if you're playing on lower diffs it will feel meh due to the low horde density

[subtle sentinel]

They can not feel like absolute dogshit that does literally nothing against fodder enemies

[subtle sentinel]

Everlasting flame?

[hollow meteor]

The problem is saying the Flamer is not good is not true. You just don't have dense enough hordes to be able to use the Flamer on

[subtle sentinel]

Critical hits spend ammo from your reserve

[mild sparrow]

Thats the one

[grizzled aspen]

Everlasting flames is kind of a bait blessing when you consider the alternatives are brittleness or more flat damage. :P

[subtle sentinel]

That doesn't refill

It just takes from the reserve if you hit a crit

[acoustic dune]

doesnt flamer have one blessing that is rending?

[subtle sentinel]

What do the upgrades even give to that

[acoustic dune]

ey phill

[subtle sentinel]

There is brittleness

[acoustic dune]

how are you philling

[placid fiber]

more ammo per crit

[grizzled aspen]

Rending/brittle/pen flames are all the same thing.

[mild sparrow]

It refills your mag, not your ammo supply. So you can keep shooting

[subtle sentinel]

+24% reload if empty is the only one that sounds good to me

[violet hornet]

Pen flames is good for havoc and scab melee, overpressure+ blaze away are the bread and butter blessings

[acoustic dune]

i was gonna ask what was the rending blessing again

[subtle sentinel]

It spends ammo from the reserve instead of the tank

[grizzled aspen]

Quickflame was meta when overpressure was bugged.

It has fallen off since.

Not a bad blessing, it just has better alternatives.

[subtle sentinel]

There is more damage the more fuel you use in a continuous fire

2 of them

[mild sparrow]

I was under the impression penetrating flames was sub-par?

[subtle sentinel]

And direct hits apply brittleness, that's it

[grizzled aspen]

Pen flames is ok.

[placid fiber]

power, which multiplies with damage bonuses

[grizzled aspen]

It makes flamer capable of dealing with a problem that it doesn't really need to.

[subtle sentinel]

Alternatives to reloading faster..?

[acoustic dune]

omg i just realise
actual zealot subject in zealot chat
are we so back?

[mild sparrow]

Number in mag refills, despite the description. Either way, more uptime, less reloading

[mild sparrow]

It will be back to literally anything else soon, don't worry

[winter oxide]

this is the response after getting called dumb and elitist

[grizzled aspen]

Flamer typically runs blaze away + overpressure, which both grant power (power is damage). Alternatively, you can drop overpressure for pen flames and be able to kill crusher packs. So, those 3 are your "alternatives" to quickflame.

[subtle sentinel]

Fuck this I will just use something else

[acoustic dune]

but
we are supirior

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[placid fiber]

More just complaining cause someone doesn't have the experience or resources to have a good flamer so they are calling it dogshit since they don't know what they are doing

[grizzled aspen]

JARL BALGRUUF???

[subtle sentinel]

A gun being useful only when fully upgraded in specific difficulties against specific situations, means yeah that weapon is terrible.

It excels at one thing apperently and useless outside of that

Better off using literally anything else.

[north sedge]

So all weapons more or less

[grizzled aspen]

Better descriptions mod says otherwise.

[sullen forge]

@copper hawk there any class you’re specifically playing more cause I am genuinely curious there

Officer: Brass Pistol + Spontoon goes so hard

[hollow meteor]

Alternatively, it's overpowered because playing on lower difficulties lowers horde density, which means the Flamer can't shine 🤔

[subtle sentinel]

And now there is a 60% mobility flamer on shop

Fuck

[grizzled aspen]

Mobility isn't even the dump.

[subtle sentinel]

No?

[acoustic dune]

kinda

[subtle sentinel]

I am using boltgun, useful whenever I want it, whenever I use it, no matter how much I upgraded it

[acoustic dune]

damage and mobility is dump on flamer eithereway

[subtle sentinel]

Nothing else so far made me feel as bad as flamer

[subtle sentinel]

Got a 60% damage one already

[mild sparrow]

Damage is dump stat on flamer. It gets the majority of damage from the burn stat

[placid fiber]

Quite literally the user, not the weapon

[acoustic dune]

i just say mobility on range weapon is dump i call it a day

[subtle sentinel]

Oh shit +18% curio

[placid fiber]

health

[acoustic dune]

dats shit

[subtle sentinel]

Yes

[grizzled aspen]

Not even a full tank with that hunk of crap.

[subtle sentinel]

Higher than what I currently have

[acoustic dune]

not why did you rope those maniacs to the wall and cook them?

[subtle sentinel]

360 rating

[acoustic dune]

are you planning to eat them?

[grizzled aspen]

Time to go terrorize my lobbies as the jammie warrior.

[placid fiber]

Look at the range with 34% cloud radius lol

[acoustic dune]

now make it zero

[placid fiber]

I can't, I'm also poor

[subtle sentinel]

Doesn't load.

[acoustic dune]

damn

[grizzled aspen]

He spawns like 30 ragers with a flamer he just bought from brunt and doesn't even run the tank dry.

[acoustic dune]

in short

[subtle sentinel]

Cool

[grizzled aspen]

64% burn 34% cloud radius, in case that image doesnt load.

[acoustic dune]

a flmaer is a great fuck you to what ever you aim at

[subtle sentinel]

Doesnt make me think it is any better

[placid fiber]

Those were damnation scab ragers as well

[acoustic dune]

in due time

they all die

[subtle sentinel]

Apperently not a literal goon

[placid fiber]

Well yeah, you've given up on a good weapon. Oh well

[subtle sentinel]

Just 1 fucking normal enemy takes ages to die.

[grizzled aspen]

YEAH BABY MONSTROUS SPECIALISTS

I'm gonna parry a cspawn to death now.

[acoustic dune]

ah but they do die

so is the crusher

[winter oxide]

dueling sword is terrible

will be next

[acoustic dune]

this is true

[placid fiber]

Yep

[subtle sentinel]

Good luck doing that with an entire horde all around you pushing you around and reloading after.

[acoustic dune]

the meta is dump damage bleed knife

[mild sparrow]

It might not have the fastest kill time on one enemy but you can hit the entire horde at once if they're closely packed. They all die at a similar rate due to infinite cleave

[acoustic dune]

phill post that bleed knife gif

[placid fiber]

Almost like twbs is taken with a flamer...

[grizzled aspen]

You do know you take a talent to not get staggered out of it and you time your dodges tight to not get hit, right?

[acoustic dune]

thats on you at that point

[hollow meteor]

Remember when it used to be Psyker only? Good times

[subtle sentinel]

Literally nothing you guys show can change my mind, I have seen and felt what I need to with it, it is not fun nor useful

[acoustic dune]

how did you ger surrounded?

is blud stupid?

[placid fiber]

I don't care what you think about it, you do you. I am going to like a good weapon, you don't have to

[winter oxide]

just use shroudfield when you wanna use the flamer problem solved 🤝

[subtle sentinel]

...by having enemies around and trying to burn them but they take ages to die so they just surround me? Are YOU stupid?

[placid fiber]

Apparently you are

[subtle sentinel]

Cool have fun with a niche weapon that's absolutely useless in 80% of the game

[acoustic dune]

getting surroundded is your first mistake

[violet hornet]

That is because you are obstinate, we have posted plenty of salient points and even gameplay footage of it doing unequivocal things for a zealot to hordes

[subtle sentinel]

30 ragers literally inside of each other, yeah

With nothing else around

[heady rapids]

playing residen evil

[subtle sentinel]

By the time you do that someone else just killed them with a melee anyway

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-car-garn47-carrite-eating-gif-2900908410453290792

[acoustic dune]

blud doesnt know how powerful inf cleave does

also ey blade

[violet hornet]

Hardstuck malice brains be like

[subtle sentinel]

I am gonna buy a double barrel

[winter oxide]

you guys are falling for ragebait

[subtle sentinel]

Playing difficulties you like instead of forcing yourself to play torture? Damn

[acoustic dune]

same guy whom dont like team play in helldiver

2

[subtle sentinel]

67 mobility 73 reload speed good enough I am keeping this shotgun

[subtle sentinel]

I just hate helldivers 2 in general

[acoustic dune]

at some point the line blur

[placid fiber]

I've given up on them, they're new and dumb. They need time to learn

[subtle sentinel]

Why the fuck does the double barrel have a mastery skin that looks good and isn't just a recolor

That looks amazing

It changes the entire model

[misty nova]

[subtle sentinel]

Are there any other mastery skins like that

[acoustic dune]

yeah just farkshark thing

[subtle sentinel]

I have bolt pistol one and combat axe one

[acoustic dune]

yeah here

[subtle sentinel]

But they are just red recolors with racing stripes

[copper hawk]

Peesa

[copper hawk]

musician

i dont have anything yet rlly

i bought the drums

and that's it

saving up for heavy saber

[subtle sentinel]

Double barrel is kinda fun

I should get one with more reload speed

Is there a mod or smth to stop the thunder hammer from giving me nausea?

[misty nova]

The revolver one looks like a flare gun

The Crusher one is a lollipop

[subtle sentinel]

How is the flamers?

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/munchkin-wizard-of-oz-oz-dance-dancing-gif-12507647

[grizzled aspen]

Wiped due to vaulting being shit.

Yay.

[placid fiber]

rip

[sullen forge]

Heavy saber is incredibly powerful if you learn how to flick the up and down melee pokes

Usually drops shamblers in 1 Headshot

[stray summit]

Heavy Saber? Do yall mean Heavy Sword?

[sullen forge]

Guts and Blackpowder

Different game entirely

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-griffith-guts-you-belong-to-me-1997-gif-14543067964081964828

[sullen forge]

@copper hawk shit speaking of, get the Carbine also that thing is incredible paired with the Heavy Saber

[placid fiber]

oh it's a roblox game

[subtle sentinel]

Ah just a recolor like most huh

Fine I will try it on damnation

Oh yeah

Got the dashing at mutant penance first try with thunder hammer, big damage

[placid fiber]

Wouldn't bother tbh, you're just going to disappoint yourself since you don't know how to use it

[stray summit]

ohhhhhhhr makes snese

[placid fiber]

and I mean that sincerely

[visual stream]

1. Right click
2. Left click

[placid fiber]

I didn't know how to flamer and it felt mid

[visual stream]

Everything dies

[placid fiber]

I mean yeah

[winter oxide]

use the demon build

shroudfield for flamer only

[subtle sentinel]

Is thunder hammer with 60 penetration good?

[placid fiber]

btw the +25% ranged damage to close enemies increases the flamer's damage

[subtle sentinel]

Or is that what I need for better horde control?

[placid fiber]

defences

pen affects damage to carapace and flak

defences is the dump stat

thammer isn't for everyone, and neither is the flamer

[subtle sentinel]

Yeah... This isn't fun to use

I will just get a vigilant or smth

Need a dmr

Omg recon lasgun has a great skin

[analog ember]

Don’t expect much out of those

Especially on zealot

[stone fern]

thammer my beloved...........

[subtle sentinel]

Imma try it in an actual battle

[subtle sentinel]

I would use it a lot of the skins didn't change it to another mark...

I love the uuuh semi auto one with the angled short magazine

Looks great

Smth like this but the vigilant

Sigh

Disconnected again

FUCK

Think I will just get the weapon customization mod again cuz the skins I want definitely won't show up

[grizzled aspen]

Wiped again on the monstro specialists due to silent trapper.

Got me through 4 bulwarks.

:(