#zealot-class
plush estuary
mild hull
Ugh I did all of the zealot penances
Except the one where I have to restore toughness with the second ability where you wave inqusition sigil
It's such a dumb ability I hate it
I play the game to click heads with relic sword, not watch a cutscene of my teammates failing to kill stunned enemies
spare talon
Except the one where I have to restore toughness with the second ability where y...
tox gas mission
ez
get it done super fast
plush estuary
idk
bitter anvil
spare talon
him finding my profile just to say he got declined is really funny tho
i might keep that comment
clever swan
takes a special kind to take a party declination off platform
bitter anvil
mild hull
Mom found the poop sock
Good thing she outed you as a nurgle cultist before you could do any damage
full nebula
mild hull
tox gas mission
ez
get it done super fast
Easy to do, but I abhor the ability that makes you pause headclicking
It is just not fun
spare talon
oh i dont disagree with you
i refuse to play it but i refuse to have less than max penance score slightly more
bitter anvil
@hollow jackal welcome
clever swan
hollow jackal
What the fuck
clever swan
What the fuck
bitter anvil
candid shuttle
spare talon
What the fuck
hollow jackal
The Emperor himself protects you from my media wrath
bitter anvil
You’ll get it soon
obsidian prairie
The Emperor himself protects you from my media wrath
This is who FS trusts to give reliable playtesting feedback
mild hull
No I didn't slide
spare talon
yes you can duck to avoid it
obsidian prairie
hollow jackal
Twisted fucking cycle path
copper hawk
@carmine falcon
I recall our pawesome convo we had durin our sm2 gamein yesterday morning and as i listen to Dante i am reminded 2 recommend Helsreach 2 u again
I also recommend Dante
It's Very good
I am Enjoying it Vry much
Hope u r doin Good when u read this Oomf
obsidian prairie
Delicious extra spaces
copper hawk
Lmfao
I hope u had a good bday Ainz :3
Also u should read Dante
He's a pawesome character ,, in a good book !!
misty ravine
I'll say
full nebula
Jesus Christ! They're minerals, Marie!!
acoustic dune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1368673480039731270/n...
I fear that zealot are not the emperor children
As they are straying more and more to nurgle
acoustic dune
Btw there was no "no wpreg" gif
So the gif avocado use
Was the one I made yesterday
Anyhow yeah
Welcome to zeal chat
hollow jackal
You what
acoustic dune
We had a dark age bc of that emoji
It's insane arc how we will prob get another one
bitter anvil
You what
zealot chat was once on lockdown or no img allowance and on 30 second cooldown
spare talon
acoustic dune
zealot chat was once on lockdown or no img allowance and on 30 second cooldown
This is true
I was told I was partially responsible
hollow jackal
I do not any preg of any kind
You gotta commit to the bit it's too late
acoustic dune
You gotta commit to the bit it's too late
I DID NOT DRAW A PREGNANT BURSTER
ITS ONLY MOGGING
MOGGING
Oh btw @hollow jackal watch out of taco stan
obsidian prairie
Actual Cryptid
bitter anvil
the spider toe stan?
obsidian prairie
Horrifying creature
hollow jackal
Whar
acoustic dune
That creature is our local "chef"
obsidian prairie
It is an affront to all living creatures that he has not been struck down
acoustic dune
It is an affront to all living creatures that he has not been struck down
Post the food pic
I am taking a shower
So I cant
obsidian prairie
You think I would contaminate any of my storage with that foulness
bitter anvil
is taco stan really nurgle chef?
obsidian prairie
Not raw
acoustic dune
N pink chicken
obsidian prairie
Steamed
clever swan
I am taking a shower
erm ur taking a shower rn?
bitter anvil
ohhh like steam ham
obsidian prairie
Mayonnaise chicken
bitter anvil
acoustic dune
erm ur taking a shower rn?
No I won't show pic as proof
I am conscious of my belly
clever swan
🫄🏻
hollow jackal
Him belly
acoustic dune
Mayonnaise chicken
Chicken encrusted mayonaise
bitter anvil
from: taco stan has: image
obsidian prairie
from: taco stan has: image
Marvelous
hollow jackal
Agreed
bitter anvil
clay love posting media now
acoustic dune
Shall and will always get me
hollow jackal
Need more cosmetic options so I can be Alexander Zealot
One day I'll find out how long you've been speaking English
bitter anvil
huh?
acoustic dune
One day I'll find out how long you've been speaking English
Do not speak I'll of our asian comrade
hollow jackal
What?
bitter anvil
clever swan
acoustic dune
hollow jackal
I'm just a chill guy, completely harmless
hollow jackal
You right, I'm the best Zealot speed runner in the state
I'm a threat to anything within 2.75 Blessed American Feet
bitter anvil
furry posting
hollow jackal
I'm surrounded by bird and wolf this ain't fair
acoustic dune
I'm a threat to anything within 2.75 Blessed American Feet
Feet posting
obsidian prairie
You right, I'm the best Zealot speed runner in the state
Cica posting
bitter anvil
I'm surrounded by bird and wolf this ain't fair
do you think bird are for tzeech?
twin wagon
acoustic dune
subtle sentinel
If I play zealot, what gun is good with a chainsword? Would a bolt pistol work?
obsidian prairie
Bolter would be better
No role overlap with Tknives and much better Cara/uny burst
peak cipher
^ if you're not taking tknives then you kind of need bolt pistol or revolver though
obsidian prairie
If you’re not taking tknives you need to reconsider
peak cipher
very true
spare talon
if youre not taking throwing knives you should be taking throwing knives
obsidian prairie
Woe
peak cipher
woe stun grenade upon ye
obsidian prairie
Singular grenade option apon this blighted class
ivory marlin
if youre not taking throwing knives you should be taking throwing knives
But holy fire
twin wagon
🤮
ivory marlin
Lmao
Dw i think i run knifes
Haven’t seen my zealot build since skill trees got added
twin wagon
Our other grenade options wouldn't be bad if the tax nodes weren't dog
peak cipher
the zealot tree is so fucked
obsidian prairie
And if second wind wasn’t where it was
4 point cost if you ever want to take the other nades
twin wagon
Similar issue with picking aura
peak cipher
the zealot tree rework will save this class
twin wagon
There won't be a rework.
It's a lie spread by the veterans
So they can further annoy zealotd when they get theirs
peak cipher
i dont even main this class anymore i just hate how theres like
one interesting choice you make in the tree
twin wagon
Zealot has 1 build and 3 variations
So we've come full circle from when we didn't have trees
subtle sentinel
Zealot has 1 build and 3 variations
Ew...
I hate it when games have like 1 viable build on higher difficulties and if you pick anything else you pretty much can't play
spare talon
I hate it when games have like 1 viable build on higher difficulties and if you ...
no one said anything about viability
one build is just much more potent than the rest
and much more fun tbh
peak cipher
the issue isn't really viability I think other builds are just less complete
I feel like if zealot only had duelist and second wind they would be viable
spare talon
it also doesnt feel as bad because every weapon can fit within those variations
and the variations are all literally as zealot as you can get
running in and killing everything in melee
empty python
Everyone else has diversity
honestly I can think of a bunch of builds that zealot can play, that all got their own roles in Havoc 40
twin wagon
honestly I can think of a bunch of builds that zealot can play, that all got the...
10 bucks pathing is exactly the same as the rest
copper hawk
Lmfao
The diversity in question: right side piety and no good balance
Thy wrath be swiftless w disdain and anoint
empty python
well here's what I've been playing these past 2 days. But tbh I'm more talking weapons I suppose
copper hawk
Lol
empty python
and I do take momentum sometimes, the only keystone that's bad is definitely the middle one lol
for havoc
copper hawk
Havent seen beacon in many moons since the gloop modifier was removed
celest jolt
fortunately it's back
copper hawk
Piety.. hammer..
spare talon
where did the fun games go
spare talon
the crit keystone with the lowest crit scaling weapon
empty python
the crit keystone with the lowest crit scaling weapon
I dont build it FOR the crits, but it's nice to have, plus I got chastise
I tried momentum
empty python
momentum is NICE, but CDR just isnt as good
spare talon
the dodge distance that IJ provides thammer is invaluable
spare talon
distance, speed, and refresh rate
copper hawk
Ironically I think maybe the thammer might be one of the few wpns piety might be a detriment to w an aggressive playstyle w the thundersplatter
Even the crusher benefits from piety quite a bit
spare talon
cuz the crusher has some good finesse scaling attacks
copper hawk
Even if it only scales on one attack w crits
I use piety for utility rather than damage so
spare talon
and it can make more use of the rending from fotf
copper hawk
I always see its utility first
spare talon
thammer is thammer
and it doesnt need it
copper hawk
The utility it gets from chastise coming back super fast is massive
And the crits on the hs 9 strikedown go hard
Especially w everything procd
spare talon
this is just more justification to nerf IoD and make martyrs purpose and pious not dogshit and inconsistent
empty python
Ironically I think maybe the thammer might be one of the few wpns piety might be...
all i'm saying, piety + hammer, it works very nice , the nice thing about the piety side CDR node is that you dont need it to activate every time, and plus, I don't go for Scourge side for it, I want Enduring Faith, it helps out a ton when u charge in to bonk bosses.
copper hawk
Considering that there's an argument for both sides of piety
spare talon
I don't go for Scourge side for it
then whats the point
copper hawk
But only one side of IJ and usually only enough points for one and marty
empty python
> I don't go for Scourge side for it
then whats the point
Scourge is nice, but I mostly want enduring faith
spare talon
take both??
empty python
ofc
copper hawk
Yes let's make IoD nerfed and not touch cdr on other classes (not saying you want this]
frosty herald
Change every cdr to be % based
copper hawk
Let's nerf the already worst class in the tree w tons of overlapping niches w other classes instead of buff all its worthless shit into usability
spare talon
Yes let's make IoD nerfed and not touch cdr on other classes (not saying you wan...
yeah psyker and vet still need to be adjusted
copper hawk
The other two cdrs worthless
One literally only works when hit in a game where hp is a resource
spare talon
ok calling zealot the worst class is already pushing it
situational awareness and psyk aura are the two that need to be hit
copper hawk
Vet safest in h40 damnation w the most base damage possible with incredible damage talents
spare talon
i think warp charges being a % restore is fine as a keystone tho
copper hawk
Flat 6 second refresh on cooldown on specialist kill
Massive tdr at the very beginning of the tree for getting headshot kills
Iron Will
Taxless golden tness
frosty herald
Zealot is the best class behind ogryn
spare talon
youd be surprised that the most value vet brings in current h40 is just a specialist sniper who poops out gold toughness
that is the most they can do
copper hawk
Agile engagement working effectively as well when combined w the rest of the tree as duellist
Without the added penalty of it not working as well with weapons that dont scale w crits or finesse
Psyker is psyker
Ogryn is the best melee char in the game with a tness regen on hit that stacks from a weapon blessing better than any other in the game
spare talon
and gold toughness isnt the reason for wipes
its other issues like poor positioning, target priority, poor progression, and lack of boss damage/strategy
spare talon
vet currently is the weakest and offers the least value in the current iteration of havoc tbh
despite their strengths
copper hawk
What
spare talon
their strengths dont counter what the current issues of havoc are
copper hawk
Vet is the safest for solo h40 non stealth runs
Only class where regen stam on slide is possible
I will have to open the archives once more
spare talon
are you really gonna solo the twins and a chaos spawn on vet
in addition to the forced boss horde
copper hawk
The accompanying post is linked below that message
From a solo havoc h40 stealthless player
empty python
are you really gonna solo the twins and a chaos spawn on vet
honestly usually that's a team effort, very rarely ur ever gonna be able to solo them, unless ur in a huge ass map like Throneside lmao
spare talon
and the additional flow of enemies and the risk of a bulwark sandwich
copper hawk
We're talking nearly a million damage
Id say the best chance is with vet
Which that poster agrees with
spare talon
honestly usually that's a team effort, very rarely ur ever gonna be able to solo...
thats literally directly in response to this message
copper hawk
5 dead specialists and you have golden toughness
spare talon
From a solo havoc h40 stealthless player
that post is talking about auric maelstroms, which is vastily different than havoc
and its from a year ago
copper hawk
With plasma and a dueling sword with that guy's build you're unkillable without the dodge penalty
Woops teehee
Did I do thaaaaat ?
empty python
thats literally directly in response to this message
i see
copper hawk
I still stand by my point
Only difference is that the circumstances are different of what he's playing, the points where he points out the strengths of Vet are still the same
And have remained the same since the time of that post
spare talon
but the modifiers havoc presents change up so many things
frosty herald
copper hawk
honestly usually that's a team effort, very rarely ur ever gonna be able to solo...
Possible w Ogryn !
copper hawk
but the modifiers havoc presents change up so many things
Do they nerf any of those talents
Does any single modifier reduce the effectiveness per stat on the talent Iron Will, or reduce the flat 6 second cooldown on specialist kill
Moreover, I'd say you would benefit more from TA as Specialist spawns scale higher with the increase in Havoc difficulty
It Stands To Reason
spare talon
suddenly horde density and the space they take up is a problem with rampaging enemies
suddenly boss damage is a huge issue when you have 2 spawn at the same time alongside a horde at 180% health
suddenly enemy priority massively shifts to healing enemies over the more offensively dangerous ones
suddenly voice of command stops mattering when you cant finish off those elites
suddenly you have to rush a ritual because you dont have the time to deal with the situation at hand alone before it triggers
suddenly backing up and kiting around isnt as feasable cuz now youll get hit with 10 bulwarks from each side
so the way you approach things changes, and in turn the value of certain things changes
olive blaze
Me when I come home from work and my wife has made me steak (she cooked it medium instead of medium rare)
spare talon
old havoc was approached like auric that you just played really slow
cuz nothing about it required you to play any different besides "dont get shot cuz that hurts more now"
but you cant play new havoc like old havoc
copper hawk
copper hawk
so the way you approach things changes, and in turn the value of certain things ...
None of what you said undermines the fundamental reality of what I said
In fact, what you just said is a boon to my argument
As Vet with the better overall damage due to talents, this would scale more POSITIVELY with enemy density, not negatively
empty python
Possible w Ogryn !
if you got room, anything is possible tbh, I've actually able to solo LTs in H40 with my chastise hammer build before
only if u got room, and no other mixed horde
copper hawk
More opportunities to refresh VoC through TA DUE to these increased spawns, as I said with enemy spawns scaling with difficulty and shock troop gauntlets more continuous
empty python
most havoc clutches I've seen have been in Throneside or just very open parts of some maps xD
copper hawk
A Vet would do better in these circumstances; regenerating grenades, some of which are simply the best in the game, even when unimproved deal significant damage to all of these enemies in a group without having to worry about grenade and ammo respawn penalties that hamper both Oggys and Zeals in higher havoc
The damage scaling for ALL weapons, not just melee like with Zeal, scale POSITIVELY and are more valuable when more of these elites spawn; that is to say they are more effective and shine more brightly, as more elites spawn and the Vet can make more use of these flat damage buff talents
You are effectively making the argument that Vet's 2 is less valuable than Zealot's 1 when counting up to 100 instead of 10. 100 being H40, and 10 being Auric Mael. 2 is always more than 1, and if these are exponential when scaled, will be more faster than 1 ever will be
spare talon
im not gonna lie cica
all of what youre saying is based on whats on paper
its not easy to get those specialist kills when a boss is aggroed on you, or theyre hiding behind a pack of armor thats focused on you, or when you have a large group of moebians literally everywhere on you
youre looking at it saying "theres this many specialists on the field, therefore you have this much cdr" without taking into account how difficult it is to actually consistently kill them with everything else thats happening
copper hawk
A significant problem in H40 for players is dealing out the most damage as quickly as possible, or sustained amounts of damage over long periods of time, along with general survivability. This is why Ogryn is very popular in H40 right now, and why Bubble Psykers are still very effective; VoC may be taken without a significant penalty to the Veteran, and the Vet actively benefits while it's up as his best TDR talent scales with the golden toughness, as an example
spare talon
have you even played vet into new havoc? the literal only times ive seen them be played, even by really good players, was "you are special bitch and you exist to only kill specialists and do nothing else", otherwise they were lagging behind in performance greatly
cuz thats the best value they bring
and like i said before, it wasnt even for cdr
it was just to get rid of the specialists
so the other classes could do their jobs better
thats the most valuable thing that a vet can bring in new havoc
copper hawk
im not gonna lie cica
all of what youre saying is based on whats on paper
its no...
What about with Plasma, or a revolver, Cole? Infinite cleave with a guaranteed crit on swap? Or Zealot, how will Zealot deal with the single aggro'd boss? The same as the Vet? They may both run Knife or Dueling Sword, but Zealot may not have the possibility of regening toughness while sliding, which is only possible with certain Veteran builds. I mention this to accentuate a possible benefit Vet may have over a Zealot in the stamina-block game against a boss. On paper this should be effective, so in-game the issue would be for the personal skill of the individual Vet player, and as a whole, a community. In no way does 2 suddenly become worse than 1 in counting to 100 unless you are unable to count. This isn't due to the Vet character being weak, but the individual player being unskilled. Controlling for skill however would lead to another outcome entirely.
spare talon
its not the fact that vet isnt broken, its that the demands of havoc dont align with most of what he offers
copper hawk
have you even played vet into new havoc? the literal only times ive seen them be...
If you're told only to target specialists and you only kill those and suddenly are surprised that you have the lowest damage on the enemy that objectively spawns less than other enemies then it's due to your role.
spare talon
If you're told only to target specialists and you only kill those and suddenly a...
yes in that case but when theyre not doing that they were still underperforming but everyone else was having a rougher time doing their job was my point
copper hawk
Your role was imposed by you or the team. The game did not force you into this role. This is not an argument. I tell you to count to 100 with 2, but you may only count every 3 seconds when the Zealot may count 1 every second. You are shocked when you're unable to make it before the Zealot.
This is not because 2 is less than 1, but because I forced you into a role and you consented to playing it.
spare talon
literally what do these numbers mean
clever swan
copper hawk
2 is a representation of the empirical reality that Veteran has more damage through talents (broad buffs to damage across certain enemy types to all weapons) than Zealot. I represent these as 2 and 1 respectively in these examples. Although a simplification, these aren't meant to be specific numbers directly representing damage values as they are mathematically but an analogy to show one is greater than the other
tawdry leaf
i sense new drip on the horizon...
copper hawk
To count up with this analogy is to perform in a game. 10 is auric mael, indicated by a lower number cuz it's eaaasyy
celest jolt
A vet that only targets specialists when they are around is more useful than a vet that aims to do max damage with his shots in the same situation
copper hawk
And 100 is h40, a higher number taking more effort
In this analogy counting is contributing to the team with damage
General combat effectiveness
Rather
To break down the u kill specialists that is ur purpose vetbot u do less damage analogy
celest jolt
how you do the damage matters more than doing more damage
copper hawk
I tell u to count with your 2 against the other person's 1 to 100, but impose that u, as ur role, u must only count every 3 seconds (specialists are fewer in number than general enemies, so you dont do as much damage, aka count, as fast as the zeal) and the zeal can count every 1 second cuz they get to kill the most plentiful enemy in the game
Then i say oh zealot is better cuz they got to 100 first before you did and that's cuz vet sucks - no, it's not because of that, it's because I compared two different roles for one general stat that doesnt account for roles
Like of i told you to only kill chaff enemies and said wow ogryn is worse than whatever class ur playing cuz u didnt kill any elites !
Wow Psyker sucks at boss damage !! This bubble psyker didn't do anything !!
U cant judge these classes performing generally in havoc when you compare a generalist role (zealot in this case) to a veteran you told only to kill specialists
Of course he's gonna do less damage lmfao
20 specialists on screen vs the entire unwashed moebian smash convention
copper hawk
its not the fact that vet isnt broken, its that the demands of havoc dont align ...
I think this statement illustrates that we went off on a tangent
As I never alleged that vet was broken lol
You said that vet was the weakest class in the game and I disagreed
We used on paper examples and in game applications to illustrate these points
spare talon
which that was the main thing in my argument, that one statement you just replied to was a little skewed ill admit
copper hawk
Zealot is the Weakest we dont have to Fight for the number 1 shitter Class it not race 2 Bottom
ZEALOT NUMBER 1 CLASS IN EL MUNDO !!! 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷
This also doesnt mean i think vet is perfect
Tree needs fixing
Too much spread out everywhere and too taxy
All trees should be like oggy or psykers
celest jolt
psyker tree is still way behind oggy
copper hawk
Which makes sense
In terms of like updates
Zealot has never been reworked, Vet has had the most reworks but last was a while ago
Psyker has had a bunch recently, Oggy is most recent
winter oxide
for the stealth penance on zealot, do they include enemies like flamers and bombers?
copper hawk
As they figure things out (PTers, Roundfish) the trees get better with time
copper hawk
for the stealth penance on zealot, do they include enemies like flamers and bomb...
Backstabs on elites ? Dont think so
Those are specialists
winter oxide
it says backshots on ranged enemies
copper hawk
Oh idk that's a good question
It'd stand 2 reason yah
Best way is to use something like the rashad on like
Scab shooters
Since they dont pull out melee weapons
As soon as an enemy draws it's no longer a ranged enemy cuz 
winter oxide
so only the shooters are counted?
winter oxide
ok
copper hawk
You can stand at like
Fences on some maps and let the scab shooters vault over you via the fence
And farm that way
Usually at endgame events
winter oxide
but i have to run stealth and loner
copper hawk
The ranged backstab kills iirc just has to be that
No strings attached
I think the only one that does require stealth is the elite stealth kill one
Been a long time since i did those penances ,,
winter oxide
no it says loner too
copper hawk
🚬
winter oxide
winter oxide
ok
copper hawk
Use a rashad or a heavy sword
Since bleed doesnt count as a backstab kill and those weapons will kill a bunch of enemies instantly
Up to 5 in one swing
winter oxide
rashad it is
copper hawk
U can take the stealth lasts 6s for the elite/specials backstab one so u can get closer and have more timr
Bummer w the loner one is that it basically wants u 2 throw a match by runnin off on ur own to do the penance
winter oxide
wait loner has to be active?
copper hawk
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e913329-846c-45de-a2b6-52e462d9c45b/ha...
Pls dont run stealth in h40
I beg u
And so does ur team
winter oxide
im not at havoc 40
copper hawk
I know but in general
winter oxide
yeah i know
winter oxide
i thought i just need loner to be equipped
copper hawk
wait loner has to be active?
Yah or in coherency w one person
Iirc
Oh and knife too
Try shoving enemies then dodging behind them as well
But the fence trick works best
copper hawk
you mean spawn camping?
Yah
winter oxide
oh ok
copper hawk
Put ur back to a fence and when shooters vault over kill them
Theyll be facing away from you when they land
This is best done on endgame events
Like that one map that spawns a boss
Consignment Yard?
At the end
W the skyfires u have to disable
Go to the furthest most fences, shooters spawn there
Furthest from where you drop down into the end stage event arena anyways
acoustic dune
I dont use shroudfield anymore
thats pretty gnarp gnarp of you cica
winter oxide
is there a weapon that lets you move faster than the knife?
acoustic dune
is there a weapon that lets you move faster than the knife?
not yet
winter oxide
whats 2nd
acoustic dune
prob the dueling sword or tac axe
buoyant oar
The flamer feels so pathetically weak
Every time I use it I think I could just be using a melee weapon that does the job better and then have a gun with decent range too
stone fern
what do you have on the flamer?
buoyant oar
Blaze Away, Everlasting Flame, Flak Armour and Crit chance
It feels bad even for clearing out trash mobs
stone fern
try overpressure for everlasting and elite/unyielding for crit chance
whats the stat distribution like?
grizzled aspen
Blaze Away, Everlasting Flame, Flak Armour and Crit chance
Well, first off, your flamer is made wrong.
Blaze away, overpressure, flak, elites/unyielding depending on how much you hate bulwarks.
Now to ensure this isn't an operator error, are you m1 puffing things or are you m2 spraying them?
stone fern
yeah that too
full nebula
copper hawk
carmine falcon
Hope u r doin Good when u read this Oomf
gnarp glorp gnorp oomfie
(please end me)
ill check it out for sure
hard nexus
it says backshots on ranged enemies
placid fiber
Every time I use it I think I could just be using a melee weapon that does the j...
@spare talon Hey, Cole. Do you still have that video of you melting like... 30 scab ragers with a flamer?
Also you have damage or mobility dumped on that flamer right? flamer gets 99.99% of its damage from the burn stat
copper hawk
Flambor..
placid fiber
One of the few weapons that gets stronger the more dense the enemies are
@buoyant oar This is weak?
It has infinite cleave >.>
hard nexus
<@222087680551288834> This is weak?
can u check for me
if flamer cleaves bosses and crushers
placid fiber
sure
hard nexus
i’m 99% sure it does
bitter anvil
bitter anvil
that is darktide itself
placid fiber
i’m 99% sure it does
Monsters? Yes
Crushers, also yes @hard nexus
It's funny how all the chaos spawn bodies went flying
oh I had inspiring barrage, no wonder my flamer was so weak
Wasn't sure how this would go so I turned invulnerability back on lol
lol penetrating flames + combat stim wrecks crushers
stable bridge
auric players are a buncha pansies
these half witted bastards fr just left one by one because they couldnt play the fuckin game right
broken walrus
Fastest things in the universe: 1. Light 2. Auric players quitting when they go down
placid fiber
placid fiber
I just closed darktide T_T
magic basin
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/angy-vtuber-angry-leevalentine-twitchemotes-gif-117958124...
Flamer doesn't go through a shield anymore? <.<
misty nova
Depends
I think psyker did some testing with inferno
If it's like dead center it blocks
placid fiber
As soon as you move it around a bit it goes through
real sonnet
Beacon of purity is back on the menu :(((
misty nova
Hmmmm I wonder how it'll interact
magic basin
i played a 2 matches today and it was the easiest 2 havocs this campaign
blight and ritual is so free
hard nexus
Crushers, also yes <@265332960792805378>
yeah i thought so
real sonnet
blight is way easier than purple and red tho
Anything is easier than red+purple
hard nexus
cleaves everything but bulwark shields
real sonnet
Doesn't mean Blight isn't the most annoying one :(
magic basin
i didnt mean r+p together
placid fiber
what is r and p? lol
real sonnet
i didnt mean r+p together
I still think difficulty is irrelevant
Blight is just annoying
magic basin
so is red
magic basin
i dont like it
carmine falcon
blight fans turn into dark souls players when u tell that that it STINKS
heh skill issue i can dodge the gabagoooo better
placid fiber
I still want to know what red and purple are lol
real sonnet
I still want to know what red and purple are lol
Havoc mutators?
placid fiber
I get that
I don't know which 2
I'm guessing it's the ones that teleport enemies away and enrage enemies
real sonnet
Red is the one that makes elites immune to CC and win a speed+dmg+resistance buff when they drop below 50% hp
Purple is the one that makes some enemies shine purple, and those heal all enemies around em except other purples
real sonnet
Red and purple is considered the hardest mutator combo because enemies can become enraged and get healed backup, having full hp AND all the buffs from red
magic basin
yellow + purple is annoying as hell
real sonnet
THose are annoying
I mean with that logic every mutator is annoying, at least there's some player agency when playing around red, purple and orange mutators
real sonnet
yellow + purple is annoying as hell
This on the mission you need to steal the crystals is the biggest pain I had to endure
magic basin
that mission feels excrutiatingly long
even without those 2 mods
last time i completed it it took me 50min and it was not a struggle
placid fiber
I mean with that logic every mutator is annoying, at least there's some player a...
these 3?
magic basin
a pretty smooth match
subtle raptor
A joyous morning to you pilgrims
Another glorious day in the magnificent service of the God-Emperor
placid fiber
Yup, garden is purple, enraging is red, rampaging is yellow.
and the daemonhost one is orange?
grizzled aspen
No?
placid fiber
They said orange x.x
magic basin
its just ritual
grizzled aspen
Heinous Rituals is just a dh that is surrounded by those nurgle cultists from the one normal ritual mission and you have to stop them from waking her.
real sonnet
They said orange x.x
It's orange don't listen to these nerds
magic basin
real sonnet
"yellow" nuh uh it's orange
real sonnet
and the daemonhost one is orange?
We just call that one ritual
placid fiber
got it
stone fern
standing on the shoulders of giants....
real sonnet
Red, Purpe, Orange, Ritual
And the previous one being Moebian, Pus, Blight and Cranial
real sonnet
its yellow
I'll kill you
magic basin
placid fiber
lol
real sonnet
bitter anvil
is almost done
real sonnet
darktide enemies in 2028
The trapper is zesty af
bitter anvil
but i expect to scale down their fire radius
copper hawk
Phew ,, my point still standz ,,
copper hawk
solar gorge
this is how they got Kennedy
placid fiber
red not to be confused with red(taunt)
Remember, Clad: The flamer is pathetically weak
misty nova
and the daemonhost one is orange?
If you get the bug and get hit by the sorcerer's lightning
It's green
copper hawk
stares at u kinda like dis
placid fiber
stares at u kinda like dis
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/tomar-joshua-joshua-tomar-gif-18884645
Who is tomar
jagged cradle
Phew ,, my point still standz ,,
Is it acceptable to skip class to play Clair obscur
sterile stone
copper hawk
Is it acceptable to skip class to play Clair obscur
sterile stone
I'll allow it
placid fiber
I'll allow it
charred elk
Hello fellow zealots, hope your day has been fine.
I have a question regarding stagger and suppression : What does fury of the faithful inflict on enemies when you dash on them ? stagger ? suppression ? What about chorus ? Does it stagger or suppress ? If an ally runs opportunist (25% rending on staggered enemies), will he get free 25% rending on enemies/boss I chorus ?
opal star
- chorus is suppress iirc
- FOTF is stagger
- I don’t think chorus’s suppression even works on bosses
charred elk
- chorus is suppress iirc
- FOTF is stagger
- I don’t think chorus’s suppression...
thank you for your answer
So I take it this is a yes to this ?
If an ally runs opportunist (25% rending on staggered enemies), will he get free 25% rending on enemies/boss I chorus ?
opal star
Now that, I don’t know
charred elk
okok np, thank you !
misty nova
thank you for your answer
So I take it this is a yes to this ?
> If an ally runs...
Yes
As long as the enemy is staggered
sterile stone
- chorus is suppress iirc
- FOTF is stagger
- I don’t think chorus’s suppression...
I don't think you can suppress bosses at all. Staggering them sure.
warm tide
misty nova
Seven thousand fragging puddles
Goo this reject
opal star
the so-called beacon of purity
placid fiber
Seven thousand fragging puddles
Goo this reject
opal star
havoc goo vs burgle vomit
which one makes you want to kill yourself faster
placid fiber
Yes
placid fiber
Steelseries or logitech?
misty nova
https://tenor.com/view/pinkglock-gif-25584003
😭 that goo put her down
sterile stone
https://tenor.com/view/logitech-logitech-g-shroud-gif-23812478
Mike was frying people in Arc Raiders
Guess that ain't so hard when you've got two other damn good players on your squad
frosty herald
@hard nexus Have you by any chance done kellington colliery rage mode?
jagged cradle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1362472539686703104/t...
I’ll take it as a yes
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/cat-running-away-escape-getaway-bye-gif-16631286
Are you sure it's not pickle flavored?
placid fiber
Not until I eat it
red pawn
Best ranged weapon to pair with knives and the relic blade? I’ve been using the flamer and sometimes the bolt pistol, and that’s kind of it.
placid fiber
bolt pistol, bolter, something else that kills specials/gunners/ragers/monsters
Whatever you want really, since the relic blade covers so much
misty nova
A vigilant 
placid fiber
something with extra mobility helps tho
copper hawk
carmine falcon
hollow jackal
love my silly little parry swords
misty nova
She kill on my switch till I engage or something
hollow jackal
I was considering putting those vocals on the Chorus ability
but Powerwolf is fine too
hollow jackal
Gotta use that zealot interaction where carapace gets turned into flak for the funny 3k damage parries though
placid fiber
Gotta use that zealot interaction where carapace gets turned into flak for the f...
it's rending now
hollow jackal
is it just rending?
placid fiber
Yep
long cosmos
Where can I learn this magic?
placid fiber
100% rending
hollow jackal
as if any armor exists outside of carapace anyways
long cosmos
of turning carapace into flak
placid fiber
on top of a free crit and +25% damage
hollow jackal
im not losing it, it used to just downgrade armor like a year ago right?
tame sluice
or chainswords
placid fiber
im not losing it, it used to just downgrade armor like a year ago right?
Yeah it used to be that
long cosmos
btw what marks of devil claw do you guys prefer? I've been using the one that makes your first heavy a strikedown
Wanted to try the other mks
hollow jackal
p sure 4 is just the best for most situations
also has the tanto-style blade so weeb shit go brr
placid fiber
btw what marks of devil claw do you guys prefer? I've been using the one that ma...
I've heard a lot that the mk7 is the best one, but, I haven't gotten around to using the dclaws yet
single target combo seems to be better on the mk7 than on the mk4
misty nova
btw what marks of devil claw do you guys prefer? I've been using the one that ma...
4 or 7
placid fiber
4 you just spam heavy 1
misty nova
Mk1 has no reliable Strikedown
hollow jackal
7 you need to prep the strikedown, which makes it less favorable to some
misty nova
So you'll really really struggle against anything flak
placid fiber
Mk1 has no reliable Strikedown
mk1 dclaw... the only weapon that is bad on zealot
long cosmos
7 you need to prep the strikedown, which makes it less favorable to some
I mean it's not different to how I use the crusher for horde clears
Light 1>Heavy 2 to avoid the strikedown on the second light
hollow jackal
I digress, its a sick fucking joke that T-axes and Chain-axes have the same fucking mobility stat
one has a black & decker 50cc engine strapped to the end
long cosmos
one has a black & decker 50cc engine strapped to the end
rev blessing to outrun tac axe 
hollow jackal
its just sad
long cosmos
I think tac axe should have similar mobility stats to combat knife
acoustic dune
love my silly little parry swords
they need to change that m2
hollow jackal
Imagine if the Duelling Swords special required an attack to parry, instead of being a free near-instant "stagger anything" button
acoustic dune
Imagine if the Duelling Swords special required an attack to parry, instead of b...
i only meant for that sword
hollow jackal
it was an unrelated thought
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378> Have you by any chance done kellington colliery rage mode?
don’t think so
acoustic dune
having it bind to m2 by default would be peak
frosty herald
:(
acoustic dune
it was an unrelated thought
also you are prob thinking of mordhau
hollow jackal
I mean, you'd lose the ability to fend off multiple attacks
hollow jackal
I'm just spitballing DS nerf ideas
acoustic dune
I'm just spitballing DS nerf ideas
make it a spear
hollow jackal
its too ubiquitous
sullen forge
That would be a buff at that point
pure tree
https://tenor.com/view/mordhau-frog-froge-video-game-gif-19156700
Yucky yucky Mordhau
acoustic dune
Yucky yucky Mordhau
pure tree
Half of zealot chat
acoustic dune
Half of zealot chat
misty ravine
https://tenor.com/view/koko-bald-remember-gif-3747721105915557716
Baldness is what made Horus do a Heresy, true fact
copper hawk
pure tree
self report
I got a beautiful head of hair
pure tree
It’s why I make fun of Dorn at all, bcuz I have those grounds to stand on 😎
clever swan
making fun of people for their genetics and appearance is so epic
solar gorge
I am genetically perfect, a most pristine sample
acoustic dune
I got a beautiful head of hair
A toupée does not count
clever swan
it's never genetics that actually matter either. it's some dumb shit
pure tree
ur a brain suspended in a jar
sullen forge
Brain being toted around in a robotic machine
pure tree
A toupée does not count
Thank god I don’t have a toupee then
My bangs go all the way down to my feet
solar gorge
I'd gladly be a brain in a jar if it meant I would be able to live forever tbh
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/kimberlygider-kimcat-gif-26836395
pure tree
I'd gladly be a brain in a jar if it meant I would be able to live forever tbh
I’m pulling my own life support plug if they say “we’re going to put your brain into a machine so we can learn about human brain mmm yummy brain”
acoustic dune
I’m pulling my own life support plug if they say “we’re going to put your brain ...
The flesh is weak
solar gorge
I’m pulling my own life support plug if they say “we’re going to put your brain ...
you'll test the prototype so it's 100% safe for others (me)
pure tree
The flesh is weak
The flesh is not eternal, and that’s ok
misty ravine
making fun of people for their genetics and appearance is so epic
Only if it's something they have no control over (like height) or if you disagree with them ideologically
sullen forge
If we replaced Godd with a 100% accurate robot of himself, is it still Godd
sullen forge
It’s a Conundrum you must answer
long cosmos
If we replaced Godd with a 100% accurate robot of himself, is it still Godd
You replaced the Godd, it is still not the original Godd, no matter how accurate
hushed knoll
I am genetically perfect, a most pristine sample
hushed knoll
Why is God spelled with two d’s
long cosmos
Why is God spelled with two d’s
I have no idea
solar gorge
ask him
solar gorge
godd
clever swan
God with double d's
pure tree
If we replaced Godd with a 100% accurate robot of himself, is it still Godd
As would most things that are 100% accurate to the original 🤔
Technically not a Ship of Theseus, yet still with similar circumstances
acoustic dune
Or
pure tree
copper hawk
@carmine falcon https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Exorcists
U might like this chapter
Theyre super cool
carmine falcon
based emblem
copper hawk
Their neophyte to aspirant/battle brother trial is that they have to get possessed by a daemon and resist it
And are excised of said daemon
By librarians and chaplains
If they survive they stay a brother
acoustic dune
Their neophyte to aspirant/battle brother trial is that they have to get possess...
Isn't that what the wolp chapter do?
copper hawk
Theyre the second most resistant to chaos chapter next to the grey knights
And whatever daemon that possesses them leaves a bit of them behind
acoustic dune
Send there recruit through tzench realm
copper hawk
Which in a very anime-y way gives them enhanced daemonic powers to a little degree without all the baggage of being a daemon's slave
Like being resistant to plagues/healing wounds faster/feeling no pain for those possessed by nurgle
Enhanced strength/speed/fury from a khornate one etc
Theyre also not assholes either
And care about people
copper hawk
Send there recruit through tzench realm
Their librarians are usually always possessed by tzeentchian daemons actually
So ur right
acoustic dune
Theyre also not assholes either
Wait what does slanesh and tzench do?
copper hawk
They like lose a bit of their soul too when theyre excised of the daemon and lose some of themselves with it
carmine falcon
Their neophyte to aspirant/battle brother trial is that they have to get possess...
that's metal as fuck lmao
copper hawk
They wear tattoos and chant chaos shit
And are powered up around chaos without the chaos space marine baggage
carmine falcon
they way you describe them make them feel like someone at GW wanted to make something even more "macho" than your average chapter lmao
sullen forge
And care about people
Immediately makes a chapter actually interesting when they show slight care for imperium citizens or guardsmen
copper hawk
Theyre the perfect astartes for fighting chaos
acoustic dune
They wear tattoos and chant chaos shit
How does the inquisitor not just off them in a instant?
pure tree
<@460880975283486731> https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Exorcists
The Chapter for big bubble babies
copper hawk
Immediately makes a chapter actually interesting when they show slight care for ...
There's an excerpt from their book where the exorcists are deployed tona world suffering a gnarly ass chaos incursion from word bearers
acoustic dune
The Chapter for big bubble babies
Titus the chapter
copper hawk
And this vanguard pulls up on some lady and she basically shits her pants and starts screaming/sobbing in pure terror
Begging for her life and so on
sullen forge
OH THAT
copper hawk
Falls 2 her knees and the exorcist is like wtf
pure tree
Titus but he gets a height reduction after a grenade accident
carmine falcon
Theyre the perfect astartes for fighting chaos
basocally chaos marines while still worshipping da embrah
copper hawk
Chill out ur good im not gonna hurt u lady
sullen forge
Falls 2 her knees and the exorcist is like wtf
Was it a Captain that literally said like
I can’t blame her for acting like that
We look similar to the threat
copper hawk
And then he realizes ooooh it's cuz we look exactly like wordbearers
sullen forge
Lmao
copper hawk
Yeah lmfao
copper hawk
basocally chaos marines while still worshipping da embrah
Troo !
carmine falcon
Titus but he gets a height reduction after a grenade accident
tits but he wants to fucking die due to chaplin knockback
titus
titus
acoustic dune
Tits
copper hawk
The Chapter for big bubble babies
All dat typin just 4 dat..
Noob..
Sighs epicly..
frosty herald
exorcists would be wiped out within the hour if their possessions were ever found out
copper hawk
Shrugs like a badass..
copper hawk
exorcists would be wiped out within the hour if their possessions were ever foun...
Theyre known
pure tree
All dat typin just 4 dat..
You were typing and I did not wanna interrupt smh
frosty herald
or the fact that theyre imprisoning extremely powerful demons inside of people
sullen forge
exorcists would be wiped out within the hour if their possessions were ever foun...
Inquisition hawks them but accepts it
Iirc
copper hawk
To the Inquisition and to the HLoT
frosty herald
then i might have my info wrong
copper hawk
They were made by inquisitorial demand and the hlot asked for them to be made iirc
frosty herald
but the using humans as demon jails is a massive no
copper hawk
But it's very clandestine
carmine falcon
ig caring about people by marines standards is jsut not instantly squashing them
copper hawk
They work directly for the ordo hereticus
copper hawk
ig caring about people by marines standards is jsut not instantly squashing them
Yeah lmfao
sullen forge
Is it bad to say some of their warp fuckery reminds me of The Legion of The Damned
copper hawk
Looks at marines malevolent
Idk why the MM havent been fuckin declared renegades yet
copper hawk
You were typing and I did not wanna interrupt smh
LMFAO
pure tree
Smhhhhhh
carmine falcon
Looks at marines malevolent
is that the chapter that literally gives 0 fucks about anything as long as they do the objective
frosty herald
malevolent marines have bordered several times on being called renegades
or straight up traitors in some cases
carmine falcon
i bet they nuked an entire hive city to cleanse it cause its easier
frosty herald
they would
sullen forge
Actively using refugee camps as bait is fucking wild
frosty herald
actualy
sullen forge
Never trust no MM
frosty herald
angels of judgement would burn down an entire world to uproot a chaos cult
copper hawk
but the using humans as demon jails is a massive no
It's actually really sad
carmine falcon
name checks out
copper hawk
So this js how it works
Some evil gloopers nabbed a bunch of Exo initiates and filled them full of daemons in experiments
And discovered u could clown car the mfers w shit tons of daemons
solar gorge
why care about civilians there's like billions more lmao
copper hawk
The exorcists were able to rescue these initiates but they were beyond fucked
frosty herald
theyre minds are also completely broken
copper hawk
Not having the knowledge, heart, or man power they like extract the geneseed from those neos
carmine falcon
why care about civilians there's like billions more lmao
spoken like a true inquisiter
copper hawk
And send them to a special warp proof prison rock in soace
To live out their days there
solar gorge
spoken like a true inquisiter
it's literally true tho
human lives are the cheapest commodity
copper hawk
Guess who the evil peeps who did that were
If u guessed fucking inquisitors
Ud be right !!
carmine falcon
i mean yeah that's the whole something something satire aspect of the setting
copper hawk
Nabbed a bunch of literal space marine children beos and stuffed them full of daemons
frosty herald
yknow
copper hawk
They need a fuckin stalinistic chapter to purge a ton of the inqui tbh
solar gorge
I'm glad this is all fictional and never happens in real life
copper hawk
Great purge them mfs
frosty herald
if even one of those demon prisons were to burst
carmine falcon
wowza glory to the imperium but also fuck the citizens
sullen forge
And discovered u could clown car the mfers w shit tons of daemons
It’s funny as fuck cause some CSM will actively do this and get ludicrously powerful if they’re lucky and strong enough
frosty herald
like these hosts have some terrifyingly powerful demons inside of them
copper hawk
angels of judgement would burn down an entire world to uproot a chaos cult
Flesh tearers and space wolves hate eachother for this
I think jt was the ft anyways
They were on a world w a chaos cult and they were working together
A bunch of flesh tearers fell to the red thirst (generally, most other astartes chapters dont know a damn thing about the Thirst or the Rage) and wiped out a ton of the cultists
Like all of them
The SW were impressed.. until the FTs just started murdering and eating/drinking civilians
pure tree
They were hungry tho
sullen forge
wowza glory to the imperium but also fuck the citizens
Marines Malev are the definition of any means justify the ends if it equals minimal resources lost that are important
copper hawk
The captain of the FTers was like oh fuck oh fuck and had to lie to thw SW who were like wtff is happening watching these guys murderize women and children
And he was like uuuuuhhhh there's some cultist stragglers
SWs didnt buy it and started killing the nutso Thirst maddened FTers
Like to a man iirc
frosty herald
i believe flesh tearers have the highest amount of marines going to death company
copper hawk
And stole their geneseed to study
copper hawk
i believe flesh tearers have the highest amount of marines going to death compan...
Nop
Marines Penitent I think do
Dumbest motherfuckers in the BA
Angels Penitent actually i think
copper hawk
It’s funny as fuck cause some CSM will actively do this and get ludicrously powe...
Yeah lmfao
Khornate guys do it all the time
carmine falcon
i want a marine game except im a khorne berserker
and i just berserk all over the place
oooohhhh im khorning tf out
im gonna khoooooorrnnnnn
sullen forge
Khornate guys do it all the time
Wasn’t there one EC who did it solely cause he enjoyed giving a Daemon the hope of winning and then immediately consuming them LMAO
copper hawk
Coming out of the warp after thousands of warp years as a csm only to encounter a loyalist sm who happens to be an exorcist
Bro just teleports around like a bloodletter and rips u in half when u shoot at him
Without havin 2 sell his left progenoid 2 satan 2 do it
frosty herald
copper hawk
Wasn’t there one EC who did it solely cause he enjoyed giving a Daemon the hope ...
Idk but that sounds awesome
Idk a lot about csms
copper hawk
https://tenor.com/view/goku-super-saiyan-gif-18286968
Lmfao
copper hawk
Wonder if there's a mod for astartes overhaul that adds exorcist cosmetics
Cuz they have like chaos runes on their armor
frosty herald
we have retributors
copper hawk
Like warding/empowerment ones to help them in resist chaos/fight harder
carmine falcon
there probably is
there's a new extended customization mod
that has a loooooot of new stuff
alongside new slots
simple minnow
Do Grimoires work for Trust in the Emperor?
copper hawk
Is everything unlocked or do u have to grind still
carmine falcon
u insta unlock everything
frosty herald
Everything is unlocked
sullen forge
Idk but that sounds awesome
He literally and I hate saying this “Edges being possessed” and then immediately overpowers said daemon and consumes it instead, all cause he’s bored
frosty herald
Except for a few thingies
sullen forge
That’s literally what he does for fun
copper hawk
We zo back.
carmine falcon
grinding is the worst choice saber has made for this game
i wanna play power fist but i dread leveling up another weapon
frosty herald
Do it
copper hawk
Power paunch
frosty herald
Powerfist is so stupid strong