all bulwarks do is melee damage
#zealot-class
copper hawk
good jorb gloopling
i did nothing at all !
u should try p fist on bulwark
it's rlly fun
carmine falcon
the amount i see who just spam their plasma gun and dont do jackshit is too high man
they suck!!!
carmine falcon
am i stupid or there is no option in game to choose audio source
ill try what u said
actually brb 10 minutew
mental arch
who watched the new gundam series
modern lintel
long cosmos
Clearly this is why relic blade is op 
acoustic dune
Why are the grunts floating
acoustic dune
Clearly this is why relic blade is op <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I still don't know what perfect block really is
long cosmos
I still don't know what perfect block really is
From my extremely limited understanding, blocking an attack within 0.2 seconds of starting your block
copper hawk
kk
grizzled aspen
I still don't know what perfect block really is
It's when you block, but perfectly. Hope this helps. 
copper hawk
modern lintel
@copper hawk r yall still gaming
carmine falcon
yes
acoustic dune
It's when you block, but perfectly. Hope this helps. <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727...
I am gonna stab morph to an underhand to a feint to a jump kick
void bison
I killed a unicorn 
acoustic dune
I killed a unicorn <:frogisproud:1127806315427803186>
Are you sure it's a unicorn?
Look like a zombie
A zombiecorn
sonic totem
Have you guys been able to get the new weapon trinket yet?
plush estuary
😔
acoustic dune
Voldemort?
heady rapids
copper hawk
void bison
the facial hair hides his true wormness but side profile still goes crazy
acoustic dune
Where's the frog in the name
void bison
https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-yo...
like soft feathers hitting from a gentle breeze
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-yo...
Smth smth angel dust from hazbin hotel
void bison
Where's the frog in the name
zinc talon
cool drawing, is it yours?
copper hawk
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da3f788-30e4-4894-ba96-11b2065387e0/the-relic-blade-sucks @vestal gazelle
hard nexus
copper hawk
heady rapids
sterile basalt
Clearly this is why relic blade is op <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
this description is outdated now
there's no internal cooldown to it
u just get +10% Matk speed for 5s on perfect block
long cosmos
Damn, I'm guessing it's still situational at best?
grizzled aspen
Feels like it would be most useful for duelling rager packs with mk2.
Because block canceling l1 l2 is quite effective at dealing with them.
sterile basalt
Damn, I'm guessing it's still situational at best?
can be fun
carmine falcon
i just push attacks into heavies on mk2 for ragers
if im feeling funny i line up uppercut overhead combo while dodging backwards
copper hawk
pale spindle
pale spindle
https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-yo...
Do it
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-yo...
me 2 my bitch husband
pale spindle
Pu$$ei
hard nexus
(he burned cassarole)
violet hornet
Remember folks, never trust da gubmint
copper hawk
violet hornet
Stan infecting your keyboard again huh
pale spindle
Cass A roll
hard nexus
rolling a cass rn
violet hornet
It's only a matter of time before your dipping tortilla chips in plain sour cream and cooking up some bubblegum chicken to go with your burger salad
violet hornet
Got that sleepy green chicken
clever swan
It's only a matter of time before your dipping tortilla chips in plain sour crea...
that's like 5 food groups. must be healthy.
tame sluice
carmine falcon
vestal gazelle
violet hornet
I think the real question here is would stand apply the mayo afterwards or would he whip the mayo with the NyQuil first before application?
clever swan
I think the real question here is would stand apply the mayo afterwards or would...
IS THIS A STAND ATTACK??
violet hornet
Stan'd attack
pale spindle
Wait, let em cook 😈
tranquil owl
It's only a matter of time before your dipping tortilla chips in plain sour crea...
The fact that the last thing on this list is real is what's really disturbing
burger salad
Cursed
violet hornet
The fact that the last thing on this list is real is what's really disturbing
Those are all real foods he eats
Along with the mashed potato soup
violet hornet
So is the bubblegum chicken.
I saw that pic and it made me realize it might be bubblegum chicken because it's pink and still chewy
violet hornet
Love it when the chicken a lil bouncy
tranquil owl
Me too, when it's a fresh cooked rotisserie
median steeple
Sisyphus
placid fiber
Sisyphus
He's the one that gives the companion item that gives coins, in Hades 1. It was the 1st one I upgraded to max, and I use it every run for early floor 1 money. >:3
misty nova
He's the one that gives the companion item that gives coins, in Hades 1. It was ...
The boulder demands nectar raaaaah
twin wagon
Some tasks can be deemed Sisyphean
convincing people to not fall prey of consumerism:
Everyone: Yes fatshark bad
Next day, new skins: 💵
including me*
born to complain, forced to buy skins
long oasis
Enjoy your premium shop slop or else
tranquil owl
Everyone: Yes fatshark bad
Next day, new skins: 💵
Fh player base every time they're drip fed mid skins
long oasis
one must imagine darktide players happy
tranquil owl
one must imagine darktide players happy
If i ever get rogue trader I won't need to imagine it
long oasis
If i ever get rogue trader I won't need to imagine it
I can get you a key for both of your kidneys
fair trade
wait its 50 bucks though thats cheaper than mario kart
clever swan
rogue gayder is only like 16 on cdkey site
lethal scroll
zealot
long cosmos
wait its 50 bucks though thats cheaper than mario kart
New industry standard
(Cheaper than mario kart)
long oasis
New industry standard
(Cheaper than mario kart)
fr tho you buy a $500 console that comes with no games so you can drop 80 more for one game
long cosmos
fr tho you buy a $500 console that comes with no games so you can drop 80 more f...
PS5 #2 electric boogaloo
heady rapids
tf you mean no games
there's the youtube app
in the nintendo store
then just for 10$ you can get this game
actual gem
long oasis
then just for 10$ you can get this game
Abelard, blow this man up into little bits
median steeple
TF2 calculator
copper hawk
grizzled aspen
New industry standard
(Cheaper than mario kart)
Americans will measure with anything except with metric.
clever swan
trying to watch movies and for some reason my media player's hue is fucked. i fixed it by offsetting my computer's overall hue by 90 degrees, as one might expect from such a thing. i am now fully colorblind (until this movie is over)
sterile stone
Americans will measure with anything except with metric.
Bullets per cheese burger
misty ravine
Americans will measure with anything except with metric.
Canadians will measure with everything including metric
bitter charm
Cheeseburgers per capita
plush estuary
sterile stone
heady rapids
@frosty herald @copper hawk @carmine falcon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283934446931939418/1367181331242422344/vlc-record-2025-05-01-00h43m49s-vlc-record-2025-05-01-00h39m28s-Warhammer_40000_SPACE_MARINE_2_2025.04.30_-_23.38.08.03.DVR.mp4-.mp4-.mp4?ex=6813a656&is=681254d6&hm=3c3c9aa5e537083d35e94b11b8c43b0da49fa96b7e32befd3f07c0ed89c9fa46&
y'all wanna hop on this when it drops
frosty herald
12 player lobies
clever swan
yoooo that's cool
carmine falcon
astrates overhaul? 
clever swan
is this monster hunter
heady rapids
yeah they got 12p lobbies that were provided by the devs not too long ago to work
clever swan
oh that's just a mod? sm2 stay slacking
carmine falcon
they can barely have enoguh mobs for 3 players in the base game
of course they're not adding 12 player lobbies yet 
clever swan
that is true, the game wouldnt run if you had to have that many more
heady rapids
well technically it was made possible by devs
carmine falcon
i mean the game is capable of spawning enough mobs
just watch cataclysm mod videos
but they dont wanna or cant implement it in the actual game
misty nova
<@427815660937019393> <@576701404475949056> <@460880975283486731> https://cdn.di...
They lit that thing up
clever swan
it'd probably just lag really badly
misty nova
💀
clever swan
the game is already hard to run it'd just become a nightmare with 3+x more units
clever swan
especially since most of the time it wont be a linear loss of performance. at some number of mobs it will start losing performance exponentially
carmine falcon
i think when they made sm2 they just put bigger emphasis on making it look pretty af and le immersive with the enviorment being busy around u and blowing up and stuff
copper hawk
<@427815660937019393> <@576701404475949056> <@460880975283486731> https://cdn.di...
dude this is fucking awesome
carmine falcon
over making it handle billion mobs
copper hawk
whole as space marine company
yes of course
dude @ me for that shit
there's also a mod that makes hordes massive
like, darktide level
carmine falcon
that's cataclysm mod
clever swan
technically they could just focus on less units but more hp per unit (but people, rightly, do not like this)
carmine falcon
i think it needs astrates overhaul
heady rapids
dude @ me for that shit
yeah I'd love to get a group going for this
carmine falcon
im hopping on that the moment i get bored from base game cause that mod is just pure crazy bullshit lmao
they basically said fk balance your weapons do way more dmg and u ahve billion more elites have fun
stone fern
<@427815660937019393> <@576701404475949056> <@460880975283486731> https://cdn.di...
SM has raid bosses now?
carmine falcon
its a mod
stone fern
mfw sm2 has vote to skip but darktide doesnt 😡
carmine falcon
you will hear key x talk for 5 minutes before rolling steel and u will like it
clever swan
barely needed in darktide i guess
misty nova
you will hear key x talk for 5 minutes before rolling steel and u will like it
These heretics
Long ass sigh
Have taken the train
carmine falcon
loooooong pause SOMETHING SOMETHING HOLY RELIC IM ANGERYYYY SAVE IT BY THE OOOMFIESAIAH
austere grail
you will hear key x talk for 5 minutes before rolling steel and u will like it
Go to Newegg and purchase the RTX-490 and A Cherry Blue mechanical keyboard
void bison
carmine falcon
brother is sponsered by nvidia
heady rapids
i knopw that rtx-590 exists
clever swan
or ye old gtx 490 i guess
oh yeah, it's 590. in which case the rx 590 is (near) perf
clever swan
big brain
lasers are actually super useful for being found at night
any helicopter or plane can instantly see it from potentially dozens of miles
probably need to know morse code to communicate SOS with it otherwise they'll be very confused
pale spindle
Who will win, laser technology or one cloud:
void bison
it would work even better if they made the full platform out of iron blocks so that weary travelers get a beacon buff
clever swan
true...
violet hornet
🥚
heady rapids
at rey dau is fun
void bison
egg shaped
copper hawk
Rhombus
misty nova
Geoffrey the Roomba shark
heady rapids
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933882059880030218/1127621745734582272/zonkerdoodlecoop.gif
median steeple
heady rapids
nova dust
what are the main differences between the XV and III evisc?
sterile basalt
what are the main differences between the XV and III evisc?
XV is better
wary finch
hard nexus
https://fixvx.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1917488151263592573
A NEW HAND
hard nexus
what are the main differences between the XV and III evisc?
mk15 is better
mk3 is more fun
mk3 has a more varied moveset
but is just weak overall
placid fiber
what are the main differences between the XV and III evisc?
Do you want a simple, but, also stronger mark? 15. Do you want a mark with more interesting combos, even though they aren't as strong as the other? 3
placid fiber
mk15 is better
mk3 is more fun
Know what I think? I think fatshark should buff the mk3 so that it's stronger than the mk15, what do you think Meow?
It's been oppressed by other weapons for too long!
The least they should do is make it equal to the mk15 in power imo
misty nova
Cats are liquid anyways
void bison
Know what I think? I think fatshark should buff the mk3 so that it's stronger th...
fats hark should add mk4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13, and 14
misty ravine
It's been oppressed by other weapons for too long!
chain weapons mentioned
Chain weapons in general need a rethink of their role and how they function. Yes Fatshark could simply buff underperformers but that's boring, like how they buffed the Deimos and Obscurus Force Swords into being good weapons because they never actually have to use their shitass special attack
median steeple
scugs....
median steeple
formal umbra
LOL
heady rapids
i'll take what they did with deimos and obscurus any day over whatever they're doing with chain weapons now
long oasis
rey dau is pretty cool
heady rapids
spoiler: they're not doing anything
misty ravine
I mean, as an Eviscerator enjoyer I'd be grateful for a straight buff, but still
heady rapids
what a life
well it's easier to just straight buff and then rework later when you got resources for that
void bison
the guy she told you not about worry to not worry about
misty ravine
I'd probably enjoy the Eviscerator less if it was just another beatstick that was only cosmetically a chain weapon
misty nova
I can't believe I ever jokingly shit talked the tac axe
Don't worry
I'll shit talk it for you
Tac bad
Plz buff
median steeple
axes are bad because they're boring real
misty ravine
Tac Axes are The Theft
median steeple
Pay taxes - president Kimball
long oasis
the guy she told you not about worry to not worry about
what does this sentence mean
explain in fortnite terms please
misty ravine
axes are bad because they're boring real
Imagine playing a game in an over-the-top setting where rule of cool takes precedent and there are all sorts of chainsaw and force field weapons and shit, but the meta melee weapons are:
- Mundane Axe
- Mundane Saber
- Mundane Knife
median steeple
long oasis
Imagine playing a game in an over-the-top setting where rule of cool takes prece...
whats more rule of cool than somehow decapitating a giant plague demon with a kitchen knife
long oasis
victory Royale
oh shit
misty ravine
whats more rule of cool than somehow decapitating a giant plague demon with a ki...
Le epic space marine finishers where you drop your Thunder Hammer in order to kill the Rubric Terminator with your fists
hard nexus
Le epic space marine finishers where you drop your Thunder Hammer in order to ki...
i want thunder hammers in sm2 to have recoil
they look and feel so good in dartkide
frosty herald
all of you should buy rogue trader if you havent already
misty nova
I'll probably go 6 playthroughs before getting the shadows dlc
Which does remind me that I should also get Phantom Liberty
formal umbra
Imagine playing a game in an over-the-top setting where rule of cool takes prece...
I mean hey, the power swords are really goddamn good at least
And relic blades
Plus I just like the taxe moveset tbh
It really clicks with me
misty nova
Another target killed by the Rashad
Glory to the combat axes
misty ravine
I mean hey, the power swords are really goddamn good at least
Because their special function doesn't come with nearly the same drawbacks as the chain weapon rev attack
misty nova
🗣️
formal umbra
Oh true
I really want chain weapons to get love, I adore the chainsword's light and heavies
fotf mid special attack doing ludicrous amounts of boss damage was really fun
I hate the dueling sword though. It's just got a boring moveset
tawny harbor
I hate the dueling sword though. It's just got a boring moveset
The MK4 Dueling Sword is basically just the rapier from Vermintide 2 except the special attack let's you slip in an extra stab with every heavy attack. It's ridiculously strong and versatile. But I tend to agree, it's not that fun to use.
misty ravine
The Dueling Sword should have been the one that needs a parry/riposte for yuge single target damage, and the Catachan Sword should have been the one with a straightforward moveset and the ability to stagger big beasters with a quick, well-placed dirty trick
formal umbra
yee i played vt2 a bit
grizzled aspen
The MK4 Dueling Sword is basically just the rapier from Vermintide 2 except the ...
The point of it is not to have an "extra attack," its an instant stagger button to everything in the game that isn't a boss.
tawny harbor
The point of it is not to have an "extra attack," its an instant stagger button ...
Which is what the off-hand pistol special attack did in VT2 as well.
sullen forge
tranquil owl
wait its 50 bucks though thats cheaper than mario kart
Can we pin this? This is an amazing comment lmao
Is also true
acoustic dune
Can we pin this? This is an amazing comment lmao
it need to be zealot related
add some zealot fact then have it pinned
tawny harbor
Did you ever play Witch Hunter Captain? You didn't just get a guaranteed crit, you got guaranteed crits for 6 seconds, 25% increased crits for allies, and you pushed back enemies with your ability. It was extremely broken.
tranquil owl
add some zealot fact then have it pinned
Good idea
heady rapids
its either guaranteed crits or 25% for teammates
misty nova
Forgot to mention that whc insta kills stuff with CRIT headshots
Simply snuff all CRIT bonuses and go ham
violet hornet
hold up, they made a rogue trader x darktide bundle just for this "crossover event" and neither game is on sale and the bundle gives no discount?
heady rapids
hold up, they made a rogue trader x darktide bundle just for this "crossover eve...
bundle gives you a discount
a hefty one
rt is like
40% off for me
45%
tawny harbor
its either guaranteed crits or 25% for teammates
Nope it's both. The guaranteed crits for Saltzpyre is the lvl30 perk. It doesn't negate the 25% extra crit for allies.
tawny harbor
wtf since when
violet hornet
40% off for me
ahh okay cool, I already own both games and cannot see any kind of discount listed there
tawny harbor
says that in the talent desc
I just booted up VT2 and it says nothing of the sort.
carmine falcon
Imagine playing a game in an over-the-top setting where rule of cool takes prece...
you're so real for this
this is why im ok with plasma and bolter being """""""disgusting"""""""""
no fkn shit
just the two most iconic 40k guns in the line up
spare talon
I can't believe I ever jokingly shit talked the tac axe
ikr
carmine falcon
i want thunder hammers in sm2 to have recoil
why would it have recoil its being used by a giant ass monster
hard nexus
why would it have recoil its being used by a giant ass monster <:Haha:1079933221...
its a giant ass hammer
the hammer scales up with astartes
hard nexus
i think thunder hammers with recoil feel much better than without
because without it
it feels like a power hammer
carmine falcon
its the slowest and weightest weapon in the game and also the most KABOOM out of all of them
hard nexus
not a thunder hammer
long oasis
Can we pin this? This is an amazing comment lmao
whats a good zealot fact
everyone already knows zealots are stinky
formal umbra
hammer bouncing off of things gives it that impact
grizzled aspen
the hammer scales up with astartes
Giant ass hammer wielded by a giant ass man equals out, but now consider the giant ass man is wearing giant ass power armor.
hard nexus
Giant ass hammer wielded by a giant ass man equals out, but now consider the gia...
giant power armor means even larger hammer
carmine falcon
yeah primarias or however you spell it are like peak human engineering
behind custodes
hard nexus
primaris
grizzled aspen
giant power armor means even larger hammer
Unfortunately the only giant ass hammer that scales fairly against giant ass man + giant ass hammer is Vulcan's giga giant ass hammer.
carmine falcon
the thing is with sm2 you'll be spamming ground pound with hammer
which does bounce
charge that bad boy up and SLAM
long oasis
misty ravine
this is why im ok with plasma and bolter being """""""disgusting"""""""""
Those are (in theory) supposed to be balanced by poor handling and ammo stats, the ammo part doesn't apply to melee ofc and the handling can be only so bad (especially for one-handed weapons)
carmine falcon
im perfectly fine with actual unique weapons being the defacto best
now make thammer the number 1 single target deleter
heady rapids
I just booted up VT2 and it says nothing of the sort.
acoustic dune
feel like king bowser
heady rapids
yeah I checked on ranaldsgift tbh
my bad
forgot how fatshark is with talent descriptions
tawny harbor
Who knows, maybe it does work that way. But it's not how they say it works.
In fact considering how inaccurate the descriptions of talents and such are, maybe the accusation of lying should be aimed at Fatshark.
misty nova
45%
Same for me
Oh shit this saves me a good amount of money
But I don't have a PC to play them
Maybe it'll go into the list of games I bought but no PC to play them
acoustic dune
darn
heady rapids
I tried playing rt
character creator was a little overwhelming
then I got to combat and saw all the talents and numbers and calculations and uninstalled
nova dust
best Relic blessings?
heady rapids
misty nova
character creator was a little overwhelming
Same
Then I went crime lord because it seemed so simple
Then proceeded to barely use Sure Fire Plan
💀
I sure do know how to cook the worst build ever
misty nova
acoustic dune
thats the penguin dude
long oasis
o
misty nova
3rd RT playthrough
All fortress World
Burst fire spam
winter oxide
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/s/XsR8sajabX
is there a darktide version?
heady rapids
is there a darktide version?
kuli guides
winter oxide
kuli?
plush estuary
he did something
void bison
bitter anvil
https://tenor.com/view/open-competitive-competitive-tf2-tf2-team-fortress-2-gif-17281620585983605910
winter oxide
does loner do anything else other than help with toughness regeneration?
spare talon
absolutely nothing
naive stirrup
^
spare talon
and since its coherency regen, it only works when none of your slots are occupied
so its functionally the worst method of toughness regen
especially for zealot
naive stirrup
tldr: dead aura, don't use it. and by extension don't take stealth either
spare talon
the one reason youd take it is point economy if youre taking stealth
but why would you willingly take stealth
naive stirrup
ive had so many zealot take it today
stealth zealots or they do not understand how it works
naive stirrup
but why would you willingly take stealth
everytime i see a stealth zealot
i die a little inside
misty nova
carmine falcon
but why would you willingly take stealth
boss 1 taps
naive stirrup
that's a meme build
naive stirrup
i keep seeing it in havocs and it's killing my progression in pubs
carmine falcon
the idea of a HAMMER doing funny dmg with you being hidden is peak comedy
naive stirrup
hit 30, see a stealthlot hammer build, hammer dies instantly
carmine falcon
stealthot
ornate bone
I mean, as nice as it is to one shot bosses with the hammer, it’s also nice to be effective against every other enemy type with other weapons and builds 🤷🏻♂️
misty nova
Yeah that's why you also hit those with a stealth hammer
Be more active with it
Alternatively
Martyrdom
Simply stat check every enemy on Atoma
grizzled aspen
"It seems you have less hp than my hammer deals. What a shame."
pale spindle
ive had so many zealot take it today
brisk moat
i think this game is making me lose braincells, i've been drooling when playing zealot
obsidian prairie
What weapon
brisk moat
heavy evis
pale spindle
i think this game is making me lose braincells, i've been drooling when playing ...
Me playing Psyker tbh 💀
obsidian prairie
heavy evis
What mk
pale spindle
Zealot just makes me get Carpel Tunnel
brisk moat
i forgor
obsidian prairie
Is it blue or green
brisk moat
tigrus mk3
obsidian prairie
tigrus mk3
Oh thats the variant that requires marginal thinking nevermind
I thought it was going to be mk15
ripe kettle
Hey, what is the Relic Sword used for in a Zealot build?
misty nova
Everything
It's a generalist
Just don't really go Blazing Piety
I mean it works, but it's not optimal
analog ember
Everything
does everything, and does it well. "balanced" by poor dodges
spare talon
Just don't really go Blazing Piety
its a finesse weapon
it works just as well as the other keystones
just gotta manage your dodges better
plus iod is literally in the game
long oasis
who need a dodge when u have the emprah
if the emperor dodged horus maybe he wouldnt be sitting paralyzed on a throne for 10k years
full nebula
Who needs dodges when you can face tank a crusher
fast iron
if the emperor dodged horus maybe he wouldnt be sitting paralyzed on a throne fo...
can't dodge brain blast
burst
whatever
rain knoll
the Ogryn struck by holy fervor!
spare talon
he was struck by a bajillion attack speed with CS
carmine falcon
yooo holyshit how did you do this insane combos bro
placid fiber
i cant believe this is really in the game
Welp next on the chopping block sterroid inducing block is probably zealot...
spare talon
↘️
🖱️
carmine falcon
placid fiber
↘️
🖱️
What are you talking about? All I have is m1. It solves everything
oh wait, that's what you implied
In all honesty are there any areas you think they could improve on zealot, without massively overpowering them like they did the ogryn? besides giving us more build flexibility @spare talon
long oasis
i think i seen him 1 time only
the only time I saw him before my team executed ass is when he was stuck in a wall
he dies very fast and has no death message
rain knoll
yeah i thought i just kill scab gunner
placid fiber
I was given this image, to help me know what they look like
fast iron
In all honesty are there any areas you think they could improve on zealot, witho...
hey. what about
massively overpowering the zealot
massively overpower the psyker and veteran too while you're at it
(you can do the veteran first, psyker is already overpowered)
spare talon
(you can do the veteran first, psyker is already overpowered)
all 3 of them are in their own ways
placid fiber
Wait I am just realizing this... they successfully added a tank to a tide game, wtf?!
long oasis
I was given this image, to help me know what they look like
in the psykhanium, if you turn on ai he screams and spawns dudes next to him. Not sure if thats how he works in missions
rain knoll
vet grenade for team for killing special is goat
miss the day when suvivalist got no cd
group hound spawn feel like free ammo replenishment
fast iron
"wah this class is OP, they can do things my class never can"
long oasis
the question is what does veteran do that other classes cant do better by miles?
placid fiber
Remember, guys, if you are ever worried about going into a pox gas mission just take your trusty toughness generator with you and everything will be just fine.
fast iron
psyker watching a veteran krak grenade with a tear as their assail plinks off carapace
fast iron
the question is what does veteran do that other classes cant do better by miles?
infinite lasgun
rain knoll
voice of command is great for team
fast iron
plowing through hordes of ranged units like butter with executioner's stance
placid fiber
voice of command is great for team
And doesn't actively set your personal dps to 0 like chorus
rain knoll
yeah crit hellebore literally allow u to not pick any ammo
fast iron
infinite grenades(psyker doesn't have grenades they have a third weapon)
rain knoll
i feel like vet is sup class now
fast iron
melee/ranged weapon weaving like the dueling sword/doublebarreled shotgun combo
rain knoll
psyker is glass cannon
fast iron
sharing toughness regen
rain knoll
sure they can dish out insane cc, dmg but if no team protect they can go down quickly
fast iron
psyker also has durability but it's different
as long as they crit for example they're basically immune to ranged attacks
rain knoll
playing zealot , ogryn i always make space for psyker
fast iron
thank you it is appreciated unless i have a greatsword
if I have a greatsword fuck you I'm the space creator.
rain knoll
yeah
that soul slash
killing fill energy then released mighty slash
but i like deimos more
fast iron
really for psyker it's more "they can't handle melee attacks from the side well"
whereas melee attacks from a single direction, the main path(enemies come in three lanes essentially)? Don't worry about the psyker lol they have literally infinite stamina for push attacks
modern lintel
infinite grenades(psyker doesn't have grenades they have a third weapon)
they do have grenade voicelines though 
placid fiber
whereas melee attacks from a single direction, the main path(enemies come in thr...
Plus that 0.5s stamina regen delay helps with hounds if you sometimes mistime your push at no stamina <.<
fast iron
really the thing about psyker: they have overwhelming ludicrous amounts of power, even moreso than an ogryn, but exhausts themselves doing it so they don't have answers for small problems
(they can knockback shield ogryns it's funny)
Giant horde? lol EP smite, toast, gg. Ten infested? oh god fighting them off with the worst melee in the game
long oasis
I feel that the last tree update gave psyker (especially swordker) way more answers to small stuff
modern lintel
saying psyker has the worst melee in the game is definitely one of the top 3 opinions of all time
long oasis
weak spot kill quell and scrier venting
fast iron
can blow up 5 crushers at once with trauma staff but 1 crusher? same speed as five crushers, like any other class would likely have faster answers
fast iron
weak spot kill quell and scrier venting
with scriers gaze now you used scriers gaze, and there's a point of vulnerability when you don't have it. not worth for a single unit or two
analog ember
I feel that the last tree update gave psyker (especially swordker) way more answ...
too bad gunker is still really underpowered
SG, BCOB and DD desperately need buffs still
maybe assail too, while we're at it
long oasis
gunker would be alright if the autoguns and inf lasguns got buffed
rain knoll
yeah plz
long oasis
with scriers gaze now you used scriers gaze, and there's a point of vulnerabilit...
do you take the warp charge path? The -40 peril node and purple node lets me keep it up for way longer
fast iron
ogryn meanwhile is overwhelming force but best used for small problems. or something. it's weird.
modern lintel
fast iron
do you take the warp charge path? The -40 peril node and purple node lets me kee...
it's not really about how long it lasts but that there's a point of vulnerability, one that ogryn's overwhelming force doesn't have
analog ember
https://tenor.com/view/skibi-di-gif-3127588730399978483
i'm a pro at it, a master baiter.
fast iron
but psyker can also shrink away and be a smol lil kid no hurt me harmless ;..; while ogryn is always BIG DANGEROUS
psyker has the option to just zoop into the back and get protected by the tougher classes while ogryn too big for puny weaklings to shield
long oasis
https://tenor.com/view/skibi-di-gif-3127588730399978483
promoted to epic cole
fast iron
(except for the moments psyker steps up to be even bigger than the ogryn, metaphorically speaking, with shield bubble)
modern lintel
promoted to epic cole
@spare talon its over 4 u
fast iron
ogryn slap other ogryns around like other classes can't, except for when psyker flings a single ogryn like they're a balloon
ogryn delete units with excessive force like no one else. except for psyker when high on the warp and with 25 scrier's gaze stacks, who does ogryn sized damage with teeny weakling bullets.
(so on and so forth)
meanwhile I guess veteran has a tool for every situation like krak grenade just deletes armored units and is literally useless otherwise and zealot
uh
...gameplay flow state I guess?
like throwing knife is the best thing I have for what the zealot tends towards, where it's a grenade that doesn't really interrupt your other actions at all and you can just yeet it while smacking heretics with your hammer
honestly zealot ranged options are kind of the fly in the honey there, tbh they should have had veteran's third keystone :x
placid fiber
Had until death save me in the mission I was just in. I got sniped as a spawn grabbed me... and it threw me before until death ended... directly towards the medistation which I used immediately >.>'
I'm still doing the event mission cuz I can on heresy. I kind of like the minigame in it >.>
It's kind of hard to try to snipe a sniper with your bolt pistol when a gunner is shooting you in the side, who would have guessed...
spare talon
SG, BCOB and DD desperately need buffs still
zinc talon
if yall want a fun chuckle
and have weapon customizations
take an assault chainsword, or chainaxe
and swap out the parts to look identical to an assault chainaxe, or chainsword
it's still the original chainaxe, or chainsword
but your brain sees weapon do new thing and computes it as NEW WEAPON
and drowns you in the funtime splashy chemicals
plus, the original chainaxe auto-saws coming out of a 1h chainsword place the weapon and gore effects much more convincingly when you're fighting with it
downright brutal, wince-inducing kinda killing
anyway try it, or don't
modern lintel
what no new content after 2 months does to a mfr
hexed igloo
Chaxe of theseus
void bison
hard nexus
meanwhile I guess veteran has a tool for every situation like krak grenade just ...
every class having great options against bulwarks except the melee class
makes me sad
fast iron
every class having great options against bulwarks except the melee class
just let them aggro onto someone else and then backstab them :p
zinc talon
grizzled aspen
every class having great options against bulwarks except the melee class
Kid named crusher:
(bulwark oneshot after stagger)
spare talon
bolter is right there
placid fiber
Btw: fuck this plague ogryn in particular. >.>
spare talon
4 shots punct/shatter on damnation kills a bulwark
hard nexus
Kid named crusher:
yes
one weapon
while every other class has abilities
in their tree
that lets them kill crushers easily
or just innate ability like staves
placid fiber
1st clip had the 15% ranged damage 15% rending gunlugger upgrade, this 2nd one has the burn on shot... honestly I can't really tell much difference in the speed
hard nexus
bolter is right there
again, only 1 weapon
one melee and one ranged
are effective at dealing with bulwarks
and even then bolter has to wait for an opening
or dump 4 shots to break their shield
which doesnt work if there's a pack of bulwarks
while psyker has an absurd amount of AOE damage, so bulwarks arent an issue
ogryn can easily stagger them
vet has shredders and kraks
and voice of command
placid fiber
I tried using my heavy hitter build with a brunt's basher... with full heavy hitter stacks and a combat stim it took that club like... 45-60 second to kill the plague ogryn... (a bit les when I slapped 25% unyielding on it, but, still... that took so long)
spare talon
one melee and one ranged
laspistol
agrip revolver
also i could make the argument that all of those classes have other things that they cant deal with nearly as well that zealot breezes through
grizzled aspen
Agri/vraks inf autoguns, shredder autopistol...
placid fiber
every class having great options against bulwarks except the melee class
Uh... chorus(bleh), bolter, flamer, stun nades... uh... doesn't the relic blade have an attack that can go through the shield, as well?
placid fiber
or rather hit the bulwark even tho it hits the shield(for the relic)
placid fiber
yeah flamer literally does go through the shield too
Doesn't work as well* against like... 10 bulwarks as quickly, sadly... >.>'
grizzled aspen
Uh... chorus(bleh), bolter, flamer, stun nades... uh... doesn't the relic blade ...
Rb doesn't go through the shield.
hard nexus
yeah flamer literally does go through the shield too
true but i forgot about that
hybrid osprey
relic blade kills aren't slow but not made for it at all in comparison to other classes
hard nexus
laspistol
both also require waiting for an opening
which means they get screwed by a bulwark pack
my main complaint is bulwark packs
zealot gets entirely fucked by them
hybrid osprey
fair
spare talon
both also require waiting for an opening
laspistol doesnt
their arm or foot can recieve damage and thus recieve infernus stacks
hard nexus
only real option against them is flamer or stun grenades
spare talon
or using the environment to spread them out
hard nexus
not really always an option
grizzled aspen
Meow does have a point with bulwark packs.
They like to spawn in groups of 4 in roaming elite trains and they typically always pick one guy to rush.
spare talon
bulwark packs are a pain yes but there are ways to deal with them
grizzled aspen
So it's usually either death or a supreme annoyance if you don't have a flamer ready.
spare talon
mostly a result of balancing via quantity
zinc talon
while every other class has abilities
I came in late but preach
granted the melee weapons I just discount crusher killing ability entirely are general use like the 1h chainsword
but that's prolly cuz I have to find my crusher killing in the weapon itself cuz I aint got shit naturally
twin wagon
Complaining about a single character not been ablw to deal with Bulwarks
Realise the game is coop and yoy aee playign safety net the class
zinc talon
my holy relic just said thank you for the compliment
grizzled aspen
bulwark packs are a pain yes but there are ways to deal with them
The point is, it shouldn't require anyone to play supreme mental gymnastics to juke the ai into separating themselves.
zinc talon
my stun grenades are blushing
clever swan
the most annoying part about bulwarks, for me, is that trying to hit past their shield is one of the best examples of latency fucking your hit detection in the game
spare talon
me sitting in the corner pondering things im not allowed to say 
placid fiber
Rb doesn't go through the shield.
Uh... I am not sure how, but, I sometimes hit the bulwark when I use the mk10's push attack against the shield... I am trying to see if I can learn how to get it consistently
zinc talon
I have noticed at least last couple days, if I miss a saw on the bulwark weak spot and it looks for all the world like I hit the shield
about call it half the time it lands on carapace
grizzled aspen
Uh... I am not sure how, but, I sometimes hit the bulwark when I use the mk10's ...
That prob has to do with hitbox jank, which is entirely possible, knowing fart shack.
zinc talon
so there's still some salvaging I guess
zinc talon
I've been usin all 3 chain weapons on rotation fiddling with this or that the last couple play sessions so I've noticed it across different anglers
grizzled aspen
What yall say is the best perks and blessings for the flamer
Check pins.
zinc talon
I've got a couple flamers I use for different missions
brittleness is great, ammo refill is great, blaze away is great
languid perch
I'm only using it till I get it mastered so I don't need anything late game
zinc talon
it's pretty versatile in the sense you can fit it with what suits your style without having to worry about suddenly being dead weight on damage
languid perch
Just a decent flamer to use on heresy/malice
zinc talon
just make sure it has at least 7.....6? in the burn stat
for the highest possible stacks and the highest rate you lay them
grizzled aspen
Brother, give me my blood angels helmet back.
zinc talon
heh I go white helmet myself
grizzled aspen
Bad.
placid fiber
@grizzled aspen I have no clue why it sometimes does, but, here's me getting it 2 times... the other times I got it while not powered, but, I am having no luck getting it with any level of consistency with the push attack
languid perch
What I'm working with myself
zinc talon
cuz
grizzled aspen
Use proper chapter heraldry smh.
zinc talon
coulda sworn smurf like, sergeants or squad leaders or something had white helmets
grizzled aspen
What I'm working with myself
Fan the flames is bad, swap to blaze away and you should be ok to use it for levelling.
languid perch
coulda sworn smurf like, sergeants or squad leaders or something had white helme...
1st company probably
grizzled aspen
coulda sworn smurf like, sergeants or squad leaders or something had white helme...
Sergeants have blue helmets with a red stripe.
languid perch
Fan the flames is bad, swap to blaze away and you should be ok to use it for lev...
Thanks
zinc talon
could very easily just have been somethin I saw offhand in a game or hype movie
grizzled aspen
At least for smurfs.
languid perch
Sergeants have blue helmets with a red stripe.
Red helmet, white stripe if veteran i think for ultramarine
placid fiber
Wait... I am getting some more of it, but, more consistent. It's almost like the peak holes on the bulwark's shield sometimes lets the mk10 relic blade's push attack through
grizzled aspen
Now an apothecary might have a white helmet.
languid perch
blue helmet w red stripe is a lieutenant isn't it
Ye
languid perch
Correct
placid fiber
I may yet learn how to consistently get the mk10 relic blade's push attack through a bulwark's shield >.>
copper hawk
i think every codex compliant chapter uses the white veteran, red sergeant, red stripe lieutenant + pauldron colorings
hard nexus
me sitting in the corner pondering things im not allowed to say <:smiles:8928959...
like what
zinc talon
heh I love that the blade is 90* from where it should be
but it'll still get through just fine
copper hawk
so let's think about it
i guess an eviscerator works sometimes if u wait for a shred, not realistic for a bulwark pack, so no
dueling sword and waiting is one for everybody, so not counting that
crusher can open them up, that's one
chorus takes a lot of time and enemies can walk through you and bash you (bullies in this case) between pulses, and it doesn't open them up immediately, and u can't attack during it - so not counting it
immo grenades but no grenade regen, that's one - and stunstorm, but taking either is at great sacrifice to ur build
can't count rashad, everyone has it
zealot rlly doesn't have a whole lot at all to deal w bulwark packs
flamer can go through shields - that's about it actually for real and useful practical weapons for bulwark packs
ogryn can just hit over their shield or take one talent to undo all bulwarks
taunt staggers, ram knocks them down
copper hawk
yep
hard nexus
i guess an eviscerator works sometimes if u wait for a shred, not realistic for ...
meh even then'
its inconsistent
and if theres any other enemies nearby
ur gonna get hit most likely
fast rapids
Unless you really want to solo a bulwark pack I think chorus is perfectly fine as an answer
plush estuary
Combat shotgun can open bulwarks
copper hawk
doesnt count
fast rapids
identity theft
hard nexus
Unless you really want to solo a bulwark pack I think chorus is perfectly fine a...
vet has 2 grenades (rechargeable), voice of command, exec bolter
psyker has its entire kit
ogryn has its entire kit
copper hawk
deal w bulwark packs
plush estuary
Hmmm
copper hawk
everyone else has something either in their kit that regenerates or a talent that also regenerates that can either wipe the screen or at least wipe the screen with bulwarks
hard nexus
zealot has stun grenades (terrible pathing, not tknives)
chorus (cant attack during it)
flamer, crusher (weapons)
fast rapids
what's the argument here only saw the bulwark pack thing
copper hawk
except zeal
plush estuary
vet has 2 grenades (rechargeable), voice of command, exec bolter
psyker has its...
Stealth is valid
They turn around
hard nexus
eh true
clever swan
i never even really noticed bulwarks as a threat as a psyker. then i played zealot and they are the greatest threat of all
copper hawk
lmfao
hard nexus
but thats also stealth
copper hawk
it's not dealing with them
hard nexus
and its only killing one
copper hawk
that's like dealing with you check engine light by putting tape over it
i don't see it .. if i pretend those bulwarks or muffler isn't falling off then it's dealt with ..
fast rapids
usually if it's safe I just run behind them and then either my team gets to kill them or I get to kill them
which isn't exactly a unique counter
I get it
plush estuary
If you kill them they die
copper hawk
one die
w stealth
plamma obliterating a whole swathe of bulwarks in like 8 clicks
hard nexus
oh yeah forgot about plasma
plush estuary
Zealot goes lack good anti bulwark crowds
fast rapids
not w stealth you can just run behind them and either they all turn to you or they stay on your team and you eviscerate them
copper hawk
playtesters please it's okay 2 acknowledge the class u like is actually unfathomable glorpshit
copper hawk
yet another tally on the "reasons why i have little faith for the zealot rework" board
fast rapids
idk I don't play havoc so if havoc bulwarks are more scary then I'm out of my depth
plush estuary
Yes
If they are red you get less than a second before they attack again
And you can't stagger them
copper hawk
staggers bulwark
it opens up
the other bulwarks file around it preventing u from hitting it
hard nexus
wait for bulwark to attack
hard nexus
it’s about to attack
hard nexus
dodge
copper hawk
tsch.. bakas..
hard nexus
it gets shot in the back
copper hawk
nono
hard nexus
resetting its attack
placid fiber
I think I figured it out. If you push attack the crusher's shield and move slightly forwards it seems to more consistently hit the bulwark instead of the shield
copper hawk
wait for bulwark
hard nexus
sigh
hard nexus
also true
copper hawk
u are eaten alive by the peaceful denizens of tertium
hybrid osprey
sounds like y'all having a good time in here
copper hawk
TROO
jsut run away
that's how u deal with it
erm why do zealtos always run ahead !
CUZ WE CANT DO ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
erm. just stand and fight the wall of metal
erm I CANT KILL BULWARKZ
clever swan
behind every zealot speedrunning ahead is a...group of bulwarks??
hybrid osprey
this feels like my grocery store trip whenever i play zealot
being trampled by chubbies in the candy aisle
winter oxide
does chorus work for final toll?
plush estuary
does chorus work for final toll?
Elaborate
spare talon
does chorus work for final toll?
not a single thing staggers them after final toll is triggered
winter oxide
the stagger part when they reach 50% hp
plush estuary
No it does not stun red
winter oxide
ok
winter oxide
nice
plush estuary
Yup
obsidian prairie
Smite users weeping
winter oxide
i dont play chorus so i dont know
obsidian prairie
Forced to play the game
spare talon
Smite users weeping
its awesome
placid fiber
@plush estuary Ainz, do you know how to get the mk10 power sword's push attack to hit a bulwark through the shield consistently? I am trying to learn and it's tough. It seems to happen more often when you move forwards with the sword...
plush estuary
I don't use relic blade
spare talon
<@665740726474375168> Ainz, do you know how to get the mk10 power sword's push a...
they fixed that this update
winter oxide
what does the purple glowing buff mean?
plush estuary
Also, anyone on PC able to get path's vet guide for plasma gun blessing
Not working on mobile
plush estuary
what does the purple glowing buff mean?
Heals nearby allies
Purple can't heal each other
spare talon
what does the purple glowing buff mean?
heals nearby non-purple enemes by 1200 hp per second
placid fiber
they fixed that this update
Uh.. did the update happen this morning? Because I am still able to do it, I just am trying to see if I can get it consistently
winter oxide
if the enemies heal past 50% hp do they keep the buffs from final toll?
clever swan
Uh.. did the update happen this morning? Because I am still able to do it, I jus...
you have the artificial latency mod right? because i have my doubts that hitting it in psykhanium is anything like hitting it with latency
plush estuary
But guess what
Psyker can still bypass shield
That's why they buffed psyker
Weakest class
clever swan
wtf they buffed bulwark
stone fern
can we just remove bulwarks and beasts of nurgle form the game?
placid fiber
When was this patch released? Just wondering
clever swan
let us at least fucking destroy some portion of their shield like for god's sake
modern lintel
average bulwark experience
fast rapids
should've simply had a frag grenade smh
hybrid osprey
damn that is quite the crowd
winter oxide
if the enemies heal past 50% hp do they keep the buffs from final toll?
im guessing no?
hybrid osprey
do you do concerts?
stone fern
average bulwark experience
nooo u dont get it theyre meant to be annoying
plush estuary
im guessing no?
They do keep it
hybrid osprey
annoy deez
plush estuary
When they get red, they stay red until dead
winter oxide
is that intended?
plush estuary
Unsure
twin wagon
BoN bad
hard nexus
rourple
plush estuary
Up to player skill
winter oxide
cuz i just run whatever
plush estuary
I pub 40 and don't care for team comp
clever swan
you basically just have to get used to havoc 40 enemies, the more hours you have used to them and their nature the better you'll be
plush estuary
If you win then it works out
I've been told I was throwing for not bringing shield on ogryn
He did not know...
Not told, yelled at
fast rapids
simply become the bulwark
peak cipher
I've been told I was throwing for not bringing shield on ogryn
i bet it was a zealot
plush estuary
Vet
winter oxide
what do ogryns usually bring
grizzled aspen
It's always vets smh.
peak cipher
i feel like it's always zealots
twin wagon
Vets and zealots are the worst gatekeepers
plush estuary
i feel like it's always zealots
Correlation does not imply causation
placid fiber
Uh, Cole... I was getting the mk10 relic blade's push attack through the shield still. I think it has to do with moving forward with the attack. And I mean a few minutes ago >.>'
I found that patch you were referencing, that was back in march
I should probably go report this bug
grizzled aspen
i feel like it's always zealots
Zealouts will run ahead and die, then leave instantly. Vets will call you a shitlord for not running the most meta thing possible. Psykers will call you a slur.
plush estuary
Ogryns will run ahead and die then leave
Psykers will run ahead and die then leave
Vets will run ahead and die then leave
Zealots will run ahead and die then leave
Everyone does this
Every mission
grizzled aspen
I mean, yeah, but the peak offenders for that are vets.
plush estuary
With what data....
peak cipher
Zealouts will run ahead and die, then leave instantly. Vets will call you a shit...
this is generally accurate to my experience except zealots are also occasionally slurslingers
placid fiber
wait, the armory exchange thing is back?
winter oxide
wait, the armory exchange thing is back?
what is that
i have never seen that before
fast rapids
is this like remote shop interaction or smth?
placid fiber
what is that
It lets you check your melk and dockets shop without having to get in game
heady roost
also you need it to claim twitch rewards iirc
winter oxide
does sire melk's shop have any use?
heady roost
or to link your twitch account so you get them ingame, rather
winter oxide
i feel like ive been completing contracts every now and then but theres nothing i can really buy
fast rapids
does sire melk's shop have any use?
I just use it to check if there's a weapon I can't be bothered to roll the armoury for
stable cypress
does sire melk's shop have any use?
rolling curio gacha to get a perfect 21% health, 17% toughness or +3 stam roll instead of checking bruntslop every hour
fast rapids
on that note what refinements do people usually take on melee weapons
winter oxide
i see
fast rapids
I've just been taking flak and maniac every time
winter oxide
on that note what refinements do people usually take on melee weapons
i usually just refer to the doc when choosing these
fast rapids
eh can't be fucked to open a doc, flak and maniac it is
plush estuary
on that note what refinements do people usually take on melee weapons
Depends on weapons
I have made the guide to easily show them
For each weapon
Flak + maniac/unyielding is the most common
plush estuary
Most common armor type
winter oxide
eh can't be fucked to open a doc, flak and maniac it is
its not a 1000 page document, its just a few images and then text underneath
fast rapids
where can I find the doc in that case
plush estuary
My profile or in the pinned messages
modern lintel
where can I find the doc in that case
i heard if you says ainz 3 times rlly fast itll appear
plush estuary
fast rapids
interesting, the pins weren't working half a second ago when I checked
classic discord
placid fiber
There, I reported the mk10 relic blade still being able to get the push attack through a bulwark shield... before I forgot in like... probably 30 minutes <.<'
It isn't doing it very consistently at least... but it does happen more often when you move forwards with the push attack...
bitter anvil
wary finch
grizzled aspen
I just watched 2 of my teammates die to pox gas in an auric mael.
Then they had the nerve to call me bad because I couldn't clutch against 8 bulwarks and a cspawn at the same time.
stone fern
Then they had the nerve to call me bad because I couldn't clutch against 8 bulwa...
smh noob maybe u should shoot them
grizzled aspen
smh noob maybe u should shoot them
Out of ammo because I was having to kill all the fucking snipers.
twin wagon
Frogonoob, manage ammo better
stone fern
excuses.........
twin wagon
Just write their names down
peak cipher
find their homes
twin wagon
so you can remind them in the future
grizzled aspen
So between having to nuke burgles and hunt snipers, I was a little strapped for ammo.
Also 1.5k level psyker that didnt understand how to fight a plogryn.
If it aggroed on her she just ran away.
peak cipher
this reminds me
how exactly do you solo a burgle
ive never actually been good at it
twin wagon
It's a simple matter of dodge timing and consistency
Try to stay infront of it if ur having latency issues since it doesn't seem as bad with vomit vs slam
Otherwise use that mobility to rotate it
Circle hitting till it dies, if it stops rotating, it's doing a melee
Block+dodge like ur playing vt2 to not get thrown back if the melee hits you
if ur a weird lsword user you can just parry it
fast rapids
eh the doc only shows blades/fury builds which isn't what I'm looking for
I'm surprised precog shows up so much considering it only lasts 2 seconds
plush estuary
2 second is long enough for the weapons they go with
DS and knife both can get like 2 heavy attacks in
fast rapids
which is still good but compared to riposte idk
plush estuary
With that damage buff
stable cypress
precog + duelist combo is how you get funnny dmg
plush estuary
eh the doc only shows blades/fury builds which isn't what I'm looking for
No need to run the example builds
fast rapids
yeah ofc duelist is a no brainer but since you already have duelist is the proportional impact of precog not lower than usual?
plush estuary
But sadly they are the most common paths for zealots since it covers the best talents in the skill tree
fast rapids
unless it's multiplicative
plush estuary
2nd wind, until death, duelsit
plush estuary
unless it's multiplicative
To my knowledge it is, but I am not the numbers guy