#zealot-class

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obsidian prairie
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When playing an FS game, yes

hearty nebula
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fartshark quality

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i mean fotf also doesn't tell you in the description that it makes you immune to ranged attacks for it's dash duration & also grants i-frames but that's neither here nor there

obsidian prairie
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All attacks

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Its total immunity while dashing

hearty nebula
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yep except explosions unless it's the very start iirc

obsidian prairie
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Except nets though cause fuck you

hearty nebula
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gotta time it perfectly

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nets is bullshit

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i hate it

obsidian prairie
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You just have to be moving under the dash movement

misty granite
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hi

obsidian prairie
misty granite
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omg its a woman i already know

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hi @hearty nebula

hearty nebula
misty granite
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why are you in every discord server

sullen forge
winter oxide
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@sage swan whos 2nd to zealot

hearty nebula
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hello stinky poopoo

hearty nebula
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i was here b4 u

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cuz im more pawsome

misty granite
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fotf my beloved

hearty nebula
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ogryn's top dog rn

misty granite
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whos bottom dog...

hearty nebula
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you

misty granite
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in dt

hearty nebula
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idk either veteran or zealot

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but probably zealot

winter oxide
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zealot is #1

hearty nebula
sage swan
hearty nebula
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ogryn is disgustingly overtuned rn

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it will thrash scriers soykers if you're not playing like an idiot

obsidian prairie
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The casual 400% melee damage boost or whatever the hell

hearty nebula
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yeah

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lmfao

sage swan
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I feel like i need the secret sauce for a scriers melee build, I was having piss poor luck with getting it going

misty granite
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on ogryn?

obsidian prairie
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Atomizing a pogryn with branx light spam

hearty nebula
misty granite
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the arm cannon thing

hearty nebula
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no

obsidian prairie
hearty nebula
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not grenade gauntlet

misty granite
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i got no idea

sage swan
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The toob

obsidian prairie
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Not encountered it yet cause I haven't been playing too much

hearty nebula
misty granite
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ive only ever seen other ppl play ogryn

obsidian prairie
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But I hear its actually heinous

hearty nebula
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it is

obsidian prairie
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Go nuts

winter oxide
obsidian prairie
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Have fun

sage swan
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I mean, Rumbler with a single vet with the ammo restoring aura has always been incredibly strong

hearty nebula
misty granite
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i thought you meant dueling sword on ogryn

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like a little tiny toothpick

misty nova
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That would be Cleaver 4

hearty nebula
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like yeah they're strong picks but zealot has the capability to make literally any melee weapon perform the same or better in a lot of aspects

winter oxide
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i dont like the dueling sword at all

misty granite
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me neither

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its boring

hearty nebula
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you just lose out on the "safety" (which is only good value for noobs anyway) but that's literally about it

obsidian prairie
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Yeah its boring as hell

sage swan
obsidian prairie
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And gross op

winter oxide
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if it makes zealot #1 then im on the wrong class?

misty granite
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Nah

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zealot doesnt need dueling sword

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i love thunder hammer on fotf zealot

sage swan
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Knife is more fun than dueling sword imo

misty granite
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alot of weapons r more fun than ds

hearty nebula
winter oxide
misty granite
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bc fun

winter oxide
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i dont actually know

misty granite
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if you ask any other main what the best class is they'll just say their main

hearty nebula
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and it's my favorite lol

hearty nebula
hearty nebula
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oh yeah syl

misty granite
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if you ask a psyker main what the best class is they'll probably say "psyker"

hearty nebula
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wanna hear something funny

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since ur a snoreframe player too

misty granite
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Ok

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Sure

hearty nebula
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tanner lindberg does videos for this game kek

sage swan
# winter oxide why is zealot the best class?

Mobility is one of the most important things in this game when you get into high level content, and zealots have mobility for days.

Rankings and tier lists aren't really important though, you can play anything you want. 4 players beat Havoc 40 with relative ease while going slap only, skill matters way more than numbers.

obsidian prairie
misty granite
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Who is that

hearty nebula
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oh

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i thought u'd know

hearty nebula
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nvm

misty granite
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I know nothing

hearty nebula
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fake warframe playr

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...

void bison
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warframe!!!!!!!

winter oxide
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so zealot is the best because of mobility

hearty nebula
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if that was the case

hearty nebula
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then psyker would be the best since they have the highest potential movespeed in the game

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lol

misty nova
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💀

misty granite
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zealot is the best because i loooove old women

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my zealot is a 65 year old mexican woman with 3 children

hearty nebula
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explodes her head

winter oxide
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i agree, my zealot is usually the fastest in the group

misty granite
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brainburst!! omg brainburst reference!!

misty granite
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warp crush that trappers skull

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🤫

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SYBAU

hearty nebula
misty granite
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ikiag..

fast iron
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crits three times

sage swan
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I keep having problems with relic blade lately, specifically around activating the blade while sprinting, which I should probably just avoid

winter oxide
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ill create an ogryn then

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is it really that busted

misty nova
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Yeah
I'd like to say you need to account for skill
But you can simply light attack ad infinitum and be immortal

sage swan
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it's Very strong. You definitely feel like a 700 pound killing machine

fast iron
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which I think with one of them is trivial? lmb for hordes haevies for not hordes lol

sage swan
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It's basically impossible to make an ogryn build that isn't stellar at mulching hordes of enemies, ragers kinda mean nothing to them

fast iron
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(the stab is still optimal for hordes because it's quicker than the 'theoretically optimal' heavy attacks for antihorde)

winter oxide
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i only struggle with gunners

hearty nebula
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just shoot them

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gunners don't like being shot

winter oxide
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ogryns do well into gunners?

fast iron
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really tho like the counterplay to gunners and ranged units in general

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shoot at them

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you suck at aiming? Doesn't matter. SHOOT AT THEM

sage swan
fast iron
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(at the very least I think block cancel gains is minimal)

winter oxide
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is ogryn's dash immune to shots too?

fast iron
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(mostly the sword just clicked for me once I stopped trying to think of the stab as non-optimal and just did it anyway)

fast iron
fast iron
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other classes have dodge linger time, which is basically a period of time the dodge 'lingers' after the end of it for i think ranged but not melee attacks

sage swan
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Yeah, but the profile of the attack matters to me. I'll still do the stab of there's something like a mauler or rager in the middle of the horde, but otherwise i like to spam the sweeping lights

misty nova
winter oxide
fast iron
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this usually covers most of the dodge cooldown time

winter oxide
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idk what he meant by dodging

fast iron
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ogryn does not have this bit of extra safety, and so if you dodge early you eat shit and die

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(shit being ranged attacks)

winter oxide
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immune to trappers is crazy

fast iron
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also, gunners afaik punish dodges and you should not dodge vs them, slides are better

fast iron
sage swan
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Did they make it so you can't slide under dogs anymore? I feel like I've done that before

fast iron
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you can literally dodge every trapper attack in the game by dodging at the exact right delay after the warning noise

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afaik you still can

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but also on the topic of gunners, you know that ranged vulnerability for ogryns because lack of dodge linger time?

obsidian prairie
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Its not practical

fast iron
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ogryns can still dashslide

obsidian prairie
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But you can

fast iron
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like every other class this also lets them dodge ranged attacks

misty nova
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Can't hit me again value money

fast iron
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you can literally just be immune to ranged units by dashsliding as ogryn to safety

winter oxide
sage swan
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I was trying to style on a dog by having it jump into the abyss while i slid under its pounce, but got got ):

sullen forge
fast iron
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unless you're good at dashsliding lol

obsidian prairie
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Highly trained shocktroopers when the enemy is sliding on their ass (they suddenly cannot hit them)

fast iron
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(dash sliding is hard i have never been able to do it well)

sullen forge
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and if you have Delight in Destruction (you should) if you're running melee

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you become unkillable

sage swan
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Ogryns are also second to none with regenerating toughness

fast iron
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(honestly one of the nice things i can say about tanner is they apparently do dashslide well and if you can dashslide yeah don't get gunner resistance you goob you're immune to ranged attacks)

sullen forge
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Well tbf Ogryn is the most powerful class in the game next to Psyker

fast iron
winter oxide
misty nova
winter oxide
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rip

fast iron
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(dash)

obsidian prairie
fast iron
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because dashes i recall do actually count as dodges for every single purpose

misty nova
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The base one feels bad af
The improved version is pretty good

obsidian prairie
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Like getting shot while in melee

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Or while doing an objective/E interact

sullen forge
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Or certain maps with very little cover

fast iron
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(as in I think you will actually count as dodging for blessings if you get shot while dashing)

sullen forge
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Consignment Yard end, Clandestine Gloriana

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etc

spare talon
fast iron
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(weirdly I think Psyker is the same way with their dodge ranged attacks on crit talent! They can just get permanent dodge uptime :p)

sterile basalt
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FotF is dmg prevention

sullen forge
sterile basalt
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u can be hit during FotF charge

spare talon
sullen forge
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LMAO

spare talon
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lemme crank it to master

fast iron
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hmmm

spare talon
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0.2x

misty nova
fast iron
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honestly sure ok it's been a while since I did a binge on 'how do i abuse dodge blessings'

sullen forge
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God the mage shit in oblivion sometimes makes me just sit there and go

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why the fuck did I bother running a build that does nothing with Magic

spare talon
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im not even a full on mage

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im a spellsword

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you can see the heavy armor and longsword

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thats on master

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so im dealing 1/5th of the normal damage

sullen forge
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I might consider trying that

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just cause like Using Heavy Armor and Weapons paired with occasional magic

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sounds stupid as fuck

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actually you know what

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Paladin Maxxing

spare talon
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its an actual class

sage swan
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I gotta do some psyker gaming, i wanna use the force greatsword more

sullen forge
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making a stupid Restoration spell that makes me unkillable

sage swan
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Turning an entire horde of poxers into a field of smoking pairs of pants is better than sex

spare talon
sullen forge
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any magic

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Its been ages since I played Oblivion and I really only played the original a few times

spare talon
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alteration, destruction, illusion, and restoration

sullen forge
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Guess I dont need to make a custom class then

spare talon
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i mean leveling in the remaster is way better

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its not a flat xp amount per cast

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its based on the mana spent

sullen forge
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You know what fuck it I'll make said character here in a second

spare talon
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so that means find the chunkies spell you can
brew some fat mana regen over time potions
and max out your skill in like 15 minutes

sullen forge
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but I dont got much time my ass needs to get up in like

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7 hours

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lmao

rough galleon
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So nice
I realized after making shitty training spells however

obsidian prairie
spare talon
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yes

obsidian prairie
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Wonderful

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Fortify skill by Big for 1 second

spare talon
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that means you can make a novice skill to max out lockpicking, speech, personality, mercantile, etc for 2 seconds

spare talon
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repairs too

sullen forge
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I plan to focus like

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Restoration first cause im just going to make myself incredibly tanky via regen

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again, Paladin max

sullen forge
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IT FUCKING RESET

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it was at 100 and I somehow didn't notice it went back down to 70

spare talon
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i also found a ring that gave me +10 attribute for every single stat

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so uh

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lol

copper hawk
spare talon
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these are my stats when i cast my magic fuckery spell

obsidian prairie
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Console commands

obsidian prairie
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Wait nevermind there are stats below 100 after buffs

misty granite
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is oblivion remaster fun?

rough galleon
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Yes

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Game is intact

sullen forge
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@obsidian prairie Forgot to mention

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NPC Jank also remains

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its fucking golden

obsidian prairie
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Saw that when you posted it first

spare talon
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but it was 5 of them

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all cutting off screaming OUTSIDER !!!!! at me

obsidian prairie
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Racism

hard nexus
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insider !

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insider?

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i hardly know 'er

sullen forge
jagged cradle
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Hahaha you’re the funniest person I know meow

sullen forge
red mesa
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dumping damage instead of mobility is viable on flamer, right?

obsidian prairie
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You lose

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1

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Point of damage

spare talon
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on the hit only

fast iron
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also yeah the damage stat is afaik trivial and not really used at all if you just 'puff' the flamer, it only really applies to impact damage if you ramp it up on a target

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...which applies the burn stacks too. Thonk

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oh right it also might make the damage ticks faster, the damage stat. ablobdrool

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(which off memory has no effect on the rate at which you apply burn stacks which is a seperate function yaaaaaaaay)

hard nexus
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if anyone got me i know wire got me

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and zin

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ain

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iaz

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ainsz

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ains

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ainz

fast iron
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i need to stop thinking about that tbh because even if it does have an effect the 20% difference is so minimal it is just meh

jagged cradle
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Aka me since I’m not real

hard nexus
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damage has absolutely zero effect

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well

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not zero

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but the TTK difference is minimal

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i did a lot of testing with it a while ago

fast iron
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it is a pain to test and the actual effect of it would need to, somehow, have an enemy literally immune to burning to observe the hit damage ticks and the rate at which it ticks :p

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hmmm

hard nexus
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but i measured the time diference

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on kill a reaper

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with 0%, 60%, 80%, and 100% damage

fast iron
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which actually I think I tested on the psyker or something with high weapon rending somehow against carapace enemies that have very low burning armor damage. Thonk

hard nexus
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and the difference between 60 and 80 was just

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barely anything

copper hawk
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Noob..

jagged cradle
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You can’t even toys

median steeple
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the great despair

fast iron
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oh right i remember now why i looked into shotgun code

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i was trying to figure out if the first pellet was 100% accurate, and so if you could make a sniper cannon out of a shotgun due to minimum pellet count

peak mauve
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So uncanny strike, or the one that boost finesse on dodge? For Zealot combat knife

spare talon
peak mauve
spare talon
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ok thats like a bajillion red flags lmao

twin wagon
peak mauve
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How come? Lol

smoky light
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How can I get my zealot to be more viable on higher difficulties?

spare talon
# peak mauve How come? Lol

the backstab rending talent is vastly inferior to uncanny because its inconsistent with backstab registration and only works on the actual hit, uncanny is much easier to use, works in the situations backstab would plus every single other situation, and is a global buff affecting all damage sources while its active and the knife is in your hand
rending also has 0 effect past 100% so both at the same time is pointless
martyrdom just isnt as good as the other two choices for knife, piety greatly increases crit chance for the knives massive crit damage multiplier and already has crit cdr along the way, and IJ is much less costly both in terms of points, curios, etc and gives similar buffs without going overboard on attack speed, and also gives hidden dodge buffs that get kinda insane with knife
shroud works well with knive but im just a stealth hater and genuinely think FOTF is much much better to use even with knife, but this point is more of a nitpick

smoky light
hard nexus
smoky light
obsidian prairie
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General advice isn’t terribly useful

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We don’t know what to suggest if we don’t know what you’re doing wrong

winter oxide
hard nexus
spare talon
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dodge often
push regularly
slide to avoid bullets

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kill them before they kill you

plush estuary
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if you dont get hit you dont take damage

obsidian prairie
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Keep your toughness full

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Hits at 100% don’t bleed

winter oxide
obsidian prairie
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Unless you take enough to go straight to health

obsidian prairie
winter oxide
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wtf

peak mauve
winter oxide
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i have never seen a shroudfield matrydom build before

obsidian prairie
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It doesn’t use it well

twin wagon
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The old hammer big bonk

obsidian prairie
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It’s quite overkill or not enough

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Often at the same time

peak mauve
spare talon
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not to mention to actually make good use of martyrdom, youre investing more talents and putting all your curios as wounds when they could be things like 2 toughness 1 stam for example

obsidian prairie
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Stamina is important for knife

spare talon
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and you can have that on IJ with similar buffs, resulting in more toughness/stam/available health (cuz you dont have to be low) for not much less damage and attack speed
not to mention the dodge buffs i mentioned, which are distance, speed, and refresh rate

peak mauve
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Alright I'll try it

spare talon
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wheres my knife build with the silly image

obsidian prairie
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IJ plays much better to knifes strengths instead of just brute forcing effectiveness via damage

obsidian prairie
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Hampter

twin wagon
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rattus

hearty nebula
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chat

spare talon
plush estuary
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<@&735928989146939404>

neon gyro
formal umbra
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A SECOND ONE?

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GOD DAMNIT

placid fiber
# spare talon

Just think of it, Cole, the 2 meta crusher blessings are side by side. One with sir in front of it, the other in plain sight

nimble fiber
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how u guys like arc temp reydau?ReyDauStare

placid fiber
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I've never played monster hunter, so I have no opinion on it

nimble fiber
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fair

median steeple
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Railgun dragon

twin wagon
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I'm an IG user so it's funny to duel in the air, that's about it

median steeple
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Sadly it has dogwater armour

tame sluice
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Latent Power is a distinctly okay skill

median steeple
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Not the skills

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The drip

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Hate it

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At least the headpiece

twin wagon
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The floor touchers likely have better opinions on it tbh

tame sluice
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I don't really like it either

twin wagon
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Otherwise I'm loosing damage and would make staying on the filthy floor more efficient

tame sluice
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reminds me I should take screenshots of my fashions since I haven't taken them yet for some reason

median steeple
placid fiber
sonic totem
median steeple
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100%

sonic totem
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Do not the pickle

twin wagon
# sonic totem

I have evidence to confirm that specifically for this one, yes

sonic totem
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Oh

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Oh no

twin wagon
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But it's the same for everything

tame sluice
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I think only some of the Monster Hunter Online monsters don't have smut drawn of them

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p sure I've seen at least every Frontier monster

twin wagon
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Like DT someone saw Hadron and thought uwugryn

jovial cosmos
tame sluice
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and the mainline monsters were not spared

jovial cosmos
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As in, for every monster?

sonic totem
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I could see some of them

jovial cosmos
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Rajang moment

sonic totem
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But the pickle?

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My boy 😭

twin wagon
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Too much stuff for how annoying he is

sonic totem
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Actually wild

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No pun intended

tame sluice
twin wagon
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Oh god

placid fiber
twin wagon
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Emprah protect me!

tame sluice
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Deviljhojho

twin wagon
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Someone commissioned a Rathian eating their food (that the hunter was bbqong) and their Hunter crying for 120€

sonic totem
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His stand is just an enraged deviljho

twin wagon
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MH art moves

sonic totem
tame sluice
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tbf a lot of the reason that we have to hunt the monsters is because they are dangerously horny

placid fiber
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In monster hunter? God only knows. On the internet? I would be more surprised if there weren't, sadly...

sonic totem
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Oh trueee

tame sluice
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there's also the FREAK that gives you the Lunastra quests in Iceborne

placid fiber
tame sluice
twin wagon
acoustic dune
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ey bigj

tame sluice
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I'm serious about that freak with the lunastra quests in world btw

acoustic dune
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hows the mord and hau

jovial cosmos
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Eh the 'freak' that gives the lunastra quest is just a serial murderer

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Wait what this is a different person

sonic totem
twin wagon
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I mean tbh

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if you had a plushie of that no one would rob you

jovial cosmos
twin wagon
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lmao

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It's like having a Rajang plushie at the door

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People will just avoid you

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And monsters too

acoustic dune
jovial cosmos
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Huh

sonic totem
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Hmm

acoustic dune
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fall on someone

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they die

sonic totem
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Oh, like L4D?

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Goomba stomping?

twin wagon
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Obscure l4d mechanic mentioned

sonic totem
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I was imagining something very different because of the previous conversation

tame sluice
acoustic dune
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in zeal chhat

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never

twin wagon
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Nah wolf was Mord HUA talking

sonic totem
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Noooooo

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I would never

jovial cosmos
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Back to restricted mode Sitgryn

acoustic dune
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gameplay is peak

twin wagon
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You are a dwarf in Grad and suddenly this guy wearing full armor drops on your head

tame sluice
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gameplay is peak until there is one (1) experienced player in the server that knows how to abuse drags

twin wagon
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Yeah ur fragile dwarven head is pretty much gone

acoustic dune
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the community is however not

tame sluice
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and then gameplay is miserable every time they're vaguely near you

acoustic dune
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or play archer

twin wagon
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Archers are the natural counter to comps

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They rq

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Specially good archers can make the sweats mald and seethe

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
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especially how unparriable kick can be

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like

twin wagon
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The simple wessex doesn't change timing

tame sluice
acoustic dune
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how tf do i parry a accel kick

twin wagon
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And the last 2 can simply be chambled

acoustic dune
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just x9

twin wagon
acoustic dune
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then do a x6 or x5

twin wagon
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You can't currently manip underhands

acoustic dune
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intoo a accel xx1

twin wagon
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They always glance

acoustic dune
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except if you are a dwarf

tame sluice
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So i'll just reiterate that I think you are overestimating how often that mechanic functions

twin wagon
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🫡

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I learned to properly manip bhook with Bhook Bill around patch 20, we can now kill people with glances only

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Which is Very funny

acoustic dune
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like that shit is wack bruv

twin wagon
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But if ur late riposting Maul ur asking to be squated

acoustic dune
twin wagon
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Maul users will hate you

acoustic dune
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i mainlly perfer dodging

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and chamber

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parry is for pussy

twin wagon
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Was playing with hypo yesterday, he was running the zealot caxe build

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Just press m1 and win

acoustic dune
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neat

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anotther cole alt

twin wagon
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Darktide gameplay in Grad

acoustic dune
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imagine a zealot in mordhau

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it would be like a singular chiv2 characther in mordhau

twin wagon
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Naked axe/mace is zealot in mord

Smaul wishes to be mace

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Grabbing sprint as a budget Charge

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So when you get a kill people just can't catch you

acoustic dune
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like bulkwark

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is just player with shield

twin wagon
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Bulwarks are as frustrating in both games lmao

acoustic dune
twin wagon
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Ur happily cleaving the clueless new poxers and suddenly a guy with a shield shows up

acoustic dune
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what piss me off from time to time

#

is not feinting

twin wagon
acoustic dune
#

sometime i try to feint

twin wagon
#

And never attack

acoustic dune
#

but it doesnt

tame sluice
#

ironically people get quite mad at feinting for some reason

acoustic dune
#

i am a chamber bot

twin wagon
#

Wolf is a chambler

tame sluice
#

at least they did when I played hte game

twin wagon
#

Ye they still do

#

More than funny looking stabs tbh

tame sluice
#

the most fun that I had playing Mordhau was using rapier and doing clashes on purpose which the Rapier is almost guaranteed to get a hit from

acoustic dune
#

the only reason i usenthe bastard sword

#

is bc i dont wanna use the rapier

tame sluice
#

this is near the release of the game

acoustic dune
#

and its the waepon i could only afford for my build

tame sluice
#

hence default longswordsman there

acoustic dune
#

its peak

twin wagon
acoustic dune
#

crouch down

#

and start spamming m1

twin wagon
acoustic dune
#

sometime new player parry to the xx1 emote

#

which i find funny

twin wagon
#

We have rock cults now in EU, Balric and Gunyi both play rock throwers

Sdolk has 3k hours on stones alone atm

#

Dan should be around 4k hours on cata/Horse

#

When a game has small playstyle niches, peak

#

Like Paul users in DT

#

Or taxers like Cole

tame sluice
#

I also spent a lot of time in mordhau playing crossbow with huntsman

#

and shooting enemy arches from incredibly stupid climbs across the map

acoustic dune
#

2 fire nade

tame sluice
#

I think the furthest shot that I killed an enemy archer with is 300 meters?

#

somewhere around there

acoustic dune
#

What I find mordhau have and chiv 2 dont

#

Is the interaction

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Looking at how people share the ballista

twin wagon
#

Chiv 2 emotes and talks interrupt your animations

#

Which means that unlike mord you can't do things as you talk

#

Chiv 2 also has bs recovery cancels by jabbing the floor

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which are very funny

acoustic dune
#

Sometime when someone miss there swing infront of me

#

I point and laugh

placid fiber
#

sigh I started a run in Hades 1 with the goal of making it a flurry shot attack build... I got chaos 1st room and after the 1st boss... both of them practically are force feeding me into making a cast build instead... +cast damage... +cast charges... This game loves messing with me

acoustic dune
tame sluice
#

I like jabs a lot

#

it's part of why I play skirmisher archer in that game

#

THIRTY damage punch to the face

twin wagon
#

"Today I will do x build"
Game : No

tame sluice
#

kill someone just with jabs

placid fiber
# twin wagon Pain

I was going to take a different god keepsake after the 1st floor, but, after the 1st floor offered me +1 cast charge I said fuck it and took artemis. Then the 2nd floor's 1st room gives +cast damage... I hate this game sometimes lol

tame sluice
#

vibe check

twin wagon
#

TB had to nerf it

acoustic dune
#

Capping fire b9mb is sad

twin wagon
#

You could stunlock people if you had another friend

twin wagon
acoustic dune
twin wagon
#

To distribute the means of engineer destruction

acoustic dune
#

Kicking people in a corner

twin wagon
acoustic dune
#

My fav player to deal with in mordhau

#

Ie shitty maul player

#

Since looking up Is the onlything you need to counter them

twin wagon
#

Don't forget standing still and kicking or walking away as a mix up

tame sluice
#

the FEAR of the maul was enough

acoustic dune
tame sluice
#

and I would just kick spam people to death

placid fiber
acoustic dune
#

Peak

placid fiber
#

I'm just waiting for demeter to get that treatment

#

Tho she kind of has

tame sluice
twin wagon
placid fiber
#

cause she makes dionysus' cast instantly hit the area instead of fire a lobbed projectile

acoustic dune
#

Also for player whom main fist

#

I try to chamber there fist

#

And then krill them

#

One chamber is all I need to win the fight

twin wagon
acoustic dune
twin wagon
#

Yes

placid fiber
#

I got chaos synergy when I got this the 1st time, which completely changed my opinion about trippy shot being hit or miss

twin wagon
placid fiber
#

+cast charges lol

acoustic dune
#

Speaking of stab

#

Looking up with a stab is insane

#

Hiding your thrust so people can't time the parry from time to time

#

I have to time there stab bc of it

tame sluice
placid fiber
# twin wagon I mean... it's in character for greek gods

Now that I think of it, you're not wrong. In hades 2 I will just have to test the gods I am unsure about out more. That experimenting is what made me realize... this god/goddess I thought that sucked is actually amazing and I am actually an idiot >_>

#

for hades 1 I mean on that second half

acoustic dune
#

Run up to an archer

#

And kick them to death

twin wagon
#

Very funny when it works

placid fiber
#

There chaos goes again, I got a forced chaos gate from a charon well and the best option offered is +1 cast. I guess fuck me for trying to make an attack build, this run...

twin wagon
#

You can also fake it out by jumping mid stab to magic pixel their parry

twin wagon
#

While you have theirs

placid fiber
#

This is not the 1st time this has happened, it happens a lot... I try my best to get a build I know will work, but, rng and room rerolls(which are very trolly) says: go to hell, bitch

acoustic dune
#

Or halberd

#

So I stab them behind teamate

placid fiber
#

rng is a bitch

twin wagon
#

Most rogue likes have the issue

#

Slay the spire has it specifically for relic runs

#

Forgotten Mines with ur character traits

placid fiber
#

Good point, and despite how annoying that is... I am in love with rogue lites/rogue likes...

twin wagon
#

Across the Obelisk seems to hate porky and never give him heal or shield cards

placid fiber
#

No matter how much brute force you try to use to force something, the rng says: lolno

twin wagon
placid fiber
#

Risk of rain 1/2/returns: You chose commando? Have no proc items

#

The best you can sometimes do is outskill the bullshit until you make it <.<

#

Or get rekt

rocky marsh
#

is this non auric maelstrom?

mild sparrow
rocky marsh
#

oh wait it says completing an auric mael counts

#

Oh you have to do it AFTER talking to the guy

mild sparrow
#

Completing an Auric Mael will unlock Havoc and give you clearance level 16

mild sparrow
tame sluice
#

auric maelstrom puts you at 16

velvet veldt
#

Is this build for crit ability spam weapons still the go to one (found in the compendium)? Hard to see why we would take e.g. dance of death instead of double ult etc

mild sparrow
#

That doesn't look like a crit build?

velvet veldt
#

That is why I was wondering if this might simply be outdated

mild sparrow
#

Maybe the cooldown is so fast it doesn't matter?

#

I see it's a crit ability spam build, not a crit build

winter oxide
#

It says crit ability spam

sonic totem
#

The extra point left over would probably go to a second charge on FOTF

#

(also personally I'd take the cdr on backstab nodes out in favour of purge the unclean at the top of the tree, but that's cause I run Bolter a lot and melting bosses is fun)

placid fiber
# mild sparrow That doesn't look like a crit build?

For weapons with shred or with a decent crit chance scourge alone is enough to be able to trigger both invocation of death and enduring faith, but, that's just an example of a build that double dips into cdr

tame sluice
placid fiber
#

Even without scourge I think shred can get both of those talents activated quite often, as well. I don't know for sure about the eviscerator, but, iirc it's up to 25% crit or w/e at t4

sonic totem
#

Still a handy talent if you like running evis tho tbh

#

Or flamer

placid fiber
#

if ur talking twbs

sonic totem
#

Yeaah, you're basically a mini Ogryn with it

#

Took a lot of games before I could comfortably play without using it. I got so spoiled lol

tame sluice
#

mini ogryn but with zero fun to use melee weapons

#

and no build variety

sonic totem
#

True and real 😔

placid fiber
#

It is helpful for when your randos are almost completely useless... and until death can let you get it done while getting ganked sometimes x.x

#

talking the machine thing with that

sonic totem
#

I do hope a zealot rework comes soon. I don't want them to make him better, but having more options would be nice

placid fiber
#

Well if you look at the psyker and ogryn trees... I would be surprised if they didn't make zealot more powerful, even if it wasn't intentional.

#

you got your mk4 cleaver oggy tanking daemonhosts by light spamming

sonic totem
#

100%, but I think the biggest thing that I'd want is that picking your aura and blitz doesn't lead to a 4 point commitment

placid fiber
#

It would be nice to take flame nades into the mortis trials without having to path through the middle...

sonic totem
#

Right??

#

Or even stun nades

#

I wanna try stun nades

#

But I can't in good conscience cause the point cost is fukin insane

#

I mean I can but I don't want to XP

placid fiber
#

As nice as it is to have an extra +15 toughness talent, I never want to have restoring faith do a lot of work. Just like how I fight tooth and claw to not have until death activate

#

This is my mortis trial's top bit for zealot

#

it's a crit build, otherwise I would not take scourge and enduring faith

sonic totem
#

Yeah... That's kinda the unfortunate thing about zealot. Some of his talents are useless, and some other are so broken, you see them on every build

#

I'm guessing there's duelist below there too, isn't there?

placid fiber
#

Uh, I can't remember if I have duelist on it

#

It's REALLY tight for talent points

sonic totem
#

Duelist is such a dumb talent though honestly

#

In a good way

#

But holy shit

placid fiber
#

If I didn't take twbs on the build I could easily get other talents, but, if I am doing mortis trials... I am not going to have to end up relying on the other players if I can help it <.<'

#

Tho that goes for normal missions as well

sonic totem
#

Honestly fair. I mostly play havoc with a dedicated group, so relying on my teammates is the norm for me =-='

#

But yeah, with pubs, you defo want that solo survivability

placid fiber
#

Plus some of the mortis trials have the auspex machine or w/e

#

So not having twbs means I get knocked off by melee

sonic totem
#

God, I feel that

#

Cause if there's no Ogryn, you're automatically the obj guy

placid fiber
#

For some reason... talking about darktide makes me want to play it, but, that would be crazy wouldn't it

velvet veldt
placid fiber
#

I think I've been spoiled by all of the halfway decent randos I've gotten in the heresy runs when I do for a chill/test run because 2 people randomly invited me to their striketeam yesterday, which I decided to join cuz why tf not... Uh... they... constantly were dying/getting downed and I had to solo clutch in both of the 2 runs I did with them >.>

sonic totem
#

And honestly, I think it's better to wait for a zealot rework before updating any compendiums lol

#

Since every zealot build looks almost the exact same XD

sonic totem
placid fiber
sonic totem
#

Sometimes they get upset if I leave when I see they just wanna do malice or something lol

#

Or they leave when I queue auric

mild sparrow
placid fiber
#

The mk9 feels slower than the mk6 on it as well, but, it at least has the 2 cleaving heavies

#

it might just be that the 1st 2 lights on the mk6 have a fairly fast animation, making it look faster

#

becaues the light 1 into light 2 on the mk7 feels a bit sluggish, but, the light 2 into light 3 seems better

#

Anyway, time to use the mk7 some more

velvet veldt
placid fiber
#

I will say it feels much easier to get weakspot hits with the mk7 heavy sword's heavy 1 than it does to get them on the mk6's heavy 2

rocky marsh
#

what does it mean in havoc that you dont have the toughness thingyh

placid fiber
#

Probably chorus

mild sparrow
placid fiber
#

Oh that

placid fiber
#

or wait was it ranged damage immunity or half damage?

#

I can't remember, because until we got a havoc thing that said that I didn't even know about the grade period >.>

mild sparrow
#

It's just reduced damage, not immunity

#

But it means the scary ranged enemies can just delete you if you're caught in the open

rocky marsh
mild sparrow
placid fiber
#

Wow, I was testing the laspistol with piety in the meatgrinder and I can see why people say it has some pretty impressive monster dps. And that was without purge the unclean. This is the laspistol I am working on for my 2nd zealot, right now

modern jasper
#

Its lack of recoil and overall ease of handling makes it so nice and satisfying to use

#

I use it for havoc for specialist elimination when my knives don't do the trick

#

And it makes a wonderful backup option if you're doing something like hunting grounds or high intensity and need to pack immolation nade instead

#

I'd recommend ghost on it though, since you're clickin heads with it most of the time that gunnermunity comes in very handy

#

Especially in Havoc

placid fiber
#

I'm just not 100% sure about the maniac damage if I take unyielding since... idk if I am just used to weapons that kill trappers in 1 hit.

modern jasper
#

Still does very reliable damage if you bodyshot

#

I've taken down maulers in 4-5 hits to the chest

long cosmos
placid fiber
#

lol I just missed a headshot on the dreg rager while adsing at this range

#

And it wasn't because he twitched his head

modern jasper
#

My aim used to be dogshit too, with time it becomes more "muscle-memory"-ey for lack of a better term

#

You'll learn to track their animations and patterns rather than just "how they move"

#

Weird way of explaining it but idk how else to

misty nova
placid fiber
#

I do 905 damage to a scab rager on a headshot, without a crit... I do 323 to a dreg rager... I do have 25% flak, but, even without that it is still much higher on the mk10 version at least. I'll go check it with the mk2

#

577 to scab, 220 to dreg x.x

#

granted I only have 62% damage rn

#

I might give this a whirl in malice to see if I can learn how to aim it <.<'

sour oxide
#

@clever swan btw ainz never told me he loved me =T

frosty herald
#

the charm looks nice

tame sluice
#

wait is it a reskinned Auric Star?

copper hawk
#

Woah wtf

#

Event

tame sluice
#

okay no it just looks like it is from a distance

#

was about to be extremely pissed that Fatshark retextured the pre order exclusive weapon charm for this event "reward"

frosty herald
#

Its the logo from rogue trader

#

The von valencius symbol

formal umbra
#

oh shit thats nice

tame sluice
#

it's a weapon charm they peak at "mediocre"

placid fiber
# copper hawk Event

Yeah, and this time u gotta align waves(and sometimes despite having it right it says you messed up(This was not very common))

copper hawk
#

Oh noh i know about dat one

#

I mean the rogue trader thi f

#

Thing

heady rapids
copper hawk
#

@frosty herald

#

Rogue Trader is modern 40k right

#

Or just about

#

Like, the most current narratively

frosty herald
#

Just about

copper hawk
#

And darktide is pre tyranic war, middle of plague wars right

#

Cuz there's genestealers in uh

#

RT

frosty herald
#

Its isolated from the imperium but 100% after the great rift

copper hawk
#

Also, one thing i always thought was weird, dont genestealers like

#

Make u faint so they can do the tongue thing

heady rapids
#

darktide is current timeline

copper hawk
#

How can we fight them as normal humanz

#

In rt ,,

#

Also there's like

#

Necron stuff in the code

#

But no Necronz ,,

copper hawk
undone pewter
#

Rogue trader isn't canon

copper hawk
#

Crazy work that boltgun is

frosty herald
copper hawk
#

Malum Caedo just eviscerating the entire pantheon of tzeentch

undone pewter
heady rapids
#

well a game that has a million different choices obv cant be canon

frosty herald
#

on further investigation theres no clear answer

copper hawk
#

My favorite murder twinks ,,

#

Meow got me fuckin hooked on roblox gamez again

#

I love untitled tag game ,,

misty nova
jagged cradle
copper hawk
#

With hellishly good music

#

It doesn't have a si gle track that misses

misty nova
#

TBF, taming a ctan shard sounds a bit too overpowered
No wonder RT canonicity is under question

copper hawk
#

Combustion conundrum, B0MB!, PWNED, Crash out - it's all perfect fast music

#

It makes we want go for another run lmfao

jagged cradle
sullen forge
#

The only game I’ve been playing on there is Guts & Blackpowder with how incredibly chaotic it can get

#

That and I blame my friend for making me get into it

copper hawk
#

Troo

#

Untitled tag game is peak u should try it

#

I think i shall play it right meow achktually ,,

sullen forge
#

I’m just saying Spatoon on Officer, it’s peak

copper hawk
#

Random ass roblox games w good soundtracks

#

Straight touhou

#

Zunpets and all

#

Even has mitsuda licks

#

Who sayz child labor bearz no fruit ,,

#

Theyre wasted on the minez !

grizzled aspen
copper hawk
#

LMFAO

#

awesome name

sullen forge
pale spindle
copper hawk
#

who wanna toys

sullen forge
#

Cause that game can be hilarious with how clueless people can be

carmine falcon
#

thanks for coming

acoustic dune
carmine falcon
#

"Its effective distance is so short that I might as well just charge or use Dueling Sword's / Knife's heavy attack to cut that distance."
me when i have to learn the projctile arch

misty nova
#

Well at least they realized they have a skill issue

carmine falcon
#

yeah the thread is friendly and the guy isnt just being ignorant on purpose lmao

#

i assoooomed the guy was gonna be an ass and make wild claims

placid fiber
#

Honestly the current darktide event's minigame is kind of nice. It isn't a "press e when highlighted thing is over square" >.>

#

I've done it enough to be fairly quick at it <.<

#

The first time I started the minigame I was like "wtf is this and how is it going to screw me?"

elfin thorn
carmine falcon
#

you can pause whille palying sm2 private

copper hawk
#

huge

carmine falcon
#

pausing in my online co op horde shooter holyshit

#

only with bots tho

#

im passing time at work by leveling up my other classes like this

zinc talon
sullen forge
#

That map is fucking cursed for me, everyone willingly teamkills with bombers lmao

elfin thorn
#

probably. i don't remember map names or factions since i didn't play too long
i don't remember if there's a difficulty setting lol

elfin thorn
visual stream
#

No More Room in Hell 2 has been surprisingly good

acoustic dune
visual stream
#

Nice to see the devs turning it around from that bad launch

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
long cosmos
acoustic dune
#

would you take away his ferret?

visual stream
#

What happened with Torn Banner?

#

@long cosmos

long cosmos
acoustic dune
long cosmos
placid fiber
#

being able to quickly do the corrupted data interrigators for the current event thing just by hopping in a semi-covered area and quickly doing the 3 things is actually really nice, because then the team doesn't need to sit and guard me. I did the 3 in this last mission before making sure we were safe and I got them done in like... 20-30 seconds >:3

gray compass
#

you can also just do them in elevators KEKW_ogryn

placid fiber
#

Also: even on heresy getting corned by 4 dreg ragers while your gun is empty and your career is on cooldown and whilea a horde is on you is kinda rough for a gunlugger. I managed to survive due to both confident strike on this shovel and the 5% light attack toughness regens from 1 target and multiple targets

placid fiber
gray compass
#

tru

placid fiber
#

Welp I gotta get ready for work now, I was able to squeeze in 1 more round before I had to go get ready. :3

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
misty nova
zealous narwhal
#

As someone new to Zealot, who is looking to use the Thunder hammer, is there a preference between shredder autopistol, heavy laspistol, or the bolt pistol?

visual stream
#

Never used any of them with thammer, but shredder or bistol should work depending on the use you intend

#

I personally use bolter

acoustic dune
#

Normally one shot sniper at any distant

#

Can stunt most stuff

#

Laspistol idk

#

Shredder feel icky

misty nova
#

Is it 3? I don't remember

acoustic dune
#

Depending on the blessing

#

I always use proximity charge

#

Also ads mag dump on a bulwark to stagger them

#

I should try shredder on psycher

#

For stack farm

zealous narwhal
#

Ok cool, I guess I should have asked what the "meta" or common builds even are! I've only really levelled a vet to 30 so far. Is Thunder hammer viable? just looks the coolest to me haha

analog ember
#

most things are viable

#

but thammer hasn't aged well

misty nova
#

Hammer can do almost everything

#

Emphasis on almost

misty nova
#

I think everyone should experience Stealth hammer

#

Whether they like it or not

copper hawk
#

@carmine falcon can i joinz u ,, 4 ,, some ,, sm2 ,,

carmine falcon
#

hop in

copper hawk
#

kay kay

#

lemme boot it up

sterile stone
grizzled aspen
#

That's just plain misinformation.

#

The problem with hammer is that it's not op like relic blade is.

analog ember
#

i mean yeah, if i'm going to take a power weapon on zealot, thammer is never going to be the first pick KEKW_ogryn

grizzled aspen
#

It's probably the most balanced weapon zealout has without going into op territory like relic blade is.

grizzled aspen
acoustic dune
#

Question

#

If you had to be payed in food

#

What food would it be

zealous narwhal
acoustic dune
#

You could ask @hard nexus

#

She got a badge just for it

grizzled aspen
#

Evisc is still unfortunately quite poor in its performance, especially considering relic blade took its whole niche.

#

I hope for a rebalance of zealout weapons soon where evisc is a sort of middle ground between relic blade and thammer.

#

Relic blade being the heretic lawnmower 9000 and hammer being the boss muncher.

carmine falcon
#

@copper hawk already better than most bulwarks

#

(i actually do melee dmg)

copper hawk
#

wut