zealot-class

[placid fiber]

[winter oxide]

light spam tact axe 🤝

[placid fiber]

and I try to push attack after using chastise x.x

since I remember being told the push attack is better for a chastise buffed melee... I forget why though

[winter oxide]

have you tried heavy sword in civi

[placid fiber]

God no, I am not going to take a melee that cannot kill armor in a civi... because the few options for ammo efficient ranged weapons include the freaking lasgun... which due to having so much ammo is actually good for me in civi, because my melee can then kill everything(and I can kill specials consistently with the lasgun)...

[twin wagon]

Why not...smaul

[placid fiber]

I have poor aim, which makes most guns a bad choice for me specifically...

[twin wagon]

Wait, flamer

no aim!

[placid fiber]

That's why I don't use the revolver on zealot, poor aim AND no safety nets

[placid fiber]

As powerful as the flamer is... you get limited uses with it in civi, due to no ammo pickups...

[winter oxide]

fk it just use the whole clip on 1 sniper

i wish civi is a permanent modifier

[placid fiber]

As bad as the lasgun is for zealot, in most cases(due to be counterintuitive to the zealot's playstyle), I might actually get this from Melk since I don't have one on my 2nd zealot. That way if I do decide to do a civi maelstrom, I have a ranged option for me >.>'

I could care less about a perfectly rolled lasgun, since it's only a civi maelstrom option for me

[twin wagon]

Don't las guns require headshots for breakpoints in havoc

Outside of vet*

[placid fiber]

breakpoints are a myth in havoc... havoc throws breakpoints in the trash, along with your hopes and dreams >_>'

[twin wagon]

No!

There are some who resist!

[placid fiber]

Or was that randos that do that? I can't remember... (that throw your hopes and dreams out in the trash I mean)

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/obelix-les-12-travaux-les-romains-balthazar-gif-13613538340911280747

[placid fiber]

I don't expect anything from randos anymore, so it doesn't affect me when they are worse than trash >.>

[placid fiber]

btw, like my bolter? <.<

I'm probably not going to upgrade it for a while, since it's 1% collateral I am missing

[winter oxide]

what does smite do?

[placid fiber]

stun things

[stone fern]

it removes fun

[winter oxide]

is that the electricity

[stone fern]

😭 this bolter needs 1 more bullet to open bulwarks

trash it NAO

[winter oxide]

smite looks like its very strong

[grizzled aspen]

This man uses a bolter to open bulwarks, laugh at him.

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[stone fern]

nah i dont run bolter anymore

i simply walk past bulwarks and let my team deal with them

[winter oxide]

what's the 3rd psyker skill

they have bubble, stun and what else?

[median steeple]

Bubble, sciers gaze, and shriek

[winter oxide]

what is sciers gaze

[median steeple]

An ability that makes you generate peril in exchange you get more damage and buffs for a bit

It's the right most ability

[winter oxide]

I see

[winter oxide]

don't really know how psykers work

[acoustic dune]

warp fuckery

just cast spell and dont implode

[winter oxide]

I just know they have bubble, stun and they jump a lot

[acoustic dune]

melee psycher is a way better melee zealot

sadly

[winter oxide]

do psykers get more damage from jumping?

[acoustic dune]

(they have a force great sword)

[acoustic dune]

more melee range and cleave

[winter oxide]

I played with a knife psyker once

[acoustic dune]

cringe nae nae baby

use a force greatsword

like a true chad

[winter oxide]

name started with S

I think it was skibidi or something

[winter oxide]

on which weapon?

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/skibdi-skibidi-toilet-toilet-ryan-gosling-gif-10204004380432191602

[winter oxide]

didn't know i could jump for more cleave

[acoustic dune]

dump stat is warp resistance

make it as low as possible

[winter oxide]

I dont have a psyker character

[acoustic dune]

neat

well now you know

[winter oxide]

why is it a better melee character than zealot?

don't psykers just die to poxwalkers

[mild sparrow]

Bad ones, yes (me)

[heady rapids]

dmg scaling and 1 button room removal

is also immune to range

doesn't need ammo

well best dps if you use guns but you have access to assail

[stone fern]

hes comparing zealot and psyker melees

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/917393117152428032/1145752941978996827/caption-25.gif

[placid fiber]

I went and put off my heavy sword misadventures for a pox gas run. Man am I glad I brought the autopistol with inspiring barrage to that, cuz that came in clutch for trapper melting, flamer melting, bomber killing, mobility, and toughness regen(when you get stuck in the middle of a gassed area)

I knew I wanted inspiring barrage for that run. Payed off the whole mission, whether I wanted to be at full toughness or I was stuck in gas.

huh, these can be low intensity

[acoustic dune]

ey phill

how are you feelin?

[stone fern]

can someone donate a random auric scoreboard to me

[heady rapids]

no sorry

[stone fern]

😭

[grizzled aspen]

Because psykers single target scaling is very consistent and they don't have to wait on chastise to oneshot things, they can just do that.

Force greatsword also has two glaring advantages over relic blade. One, you don't have to manage heat, it just does an obscene amount of damage to begin with. Two, you can wipe an entire room of chaff with t1 charge, or an entire room of anything not ogryn shaped with a t2 charge.

[winter oxide]

can I use the thunder hammer on a psyker?

[median steeple]

No

It's a zealot only weapon

[winter oxide]

what about the crusher

[median steeple]

Also no

[winter oxide]

eviscerator yes?

[median steeple]

Nope

[winter oxide]

💀

better melee class with half the weapons available

[median steeple]

They also get a staff with infinite cleave and ammo

The purge staff (idk it's new name) the one that shoots fire

[twin wagon]

Indignatus is a mog lord of a weapon

Bunch of elites crowding your aura?

Use special, mog them

[heady rapids]

psykers have force swords

and then force greatswords

staves exist but kinda in a sorry state

haven't added a new one since the game released

and the ones we have rn are

well

purgatus is the outlier and easily the strongest

the others are
the powercrept
the annoying to use one
and the one that has only 50% of its kit be actually useful

meanwhile psykers get lowk best melees in the game

maybe if we don't look at ogryn

actually the best melee class

[mild sparrow]

This is assuming you don't get hit ever

[heady rapids]

well you get best dodge counts/distance weapons and range immunity

and half of your arsenal just topples enemies

pushes that stagger ragers and shit

[copper hawk]

Just sat down at my chair w my plate carrier on and was confused as 2 why i couldnt sit all the way back

[heady rapids]

ogryn is just braindead lmb spam while killing everything on your screen and restoring all the toughness in a blink of an eye

[copper hawk]

Didnt register i was still wearing it

[heady rapids]

psyker is about elegance

[copper hawk]

Im fucking cooked

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-explosion-floombo-gif-6280498000577620919

[copper hawk]

Technically

[winter oxide]

Pushes can stagger ragers?

[copper hawk]

Ogryn I think is probably the strongest in raw stats

[heady rapids]

yeah psyker has force pushes on force weapons

[copper hawk]

But without the dodge timer bs veteran is the better melee character

[heady rapids]

you push and everything just fucks off

[winter oxide]

why can't I do that on zealot

[copper hawk]

Due to many talents providing flat damage buffs

[copper hawk]

Power creep

Shrimple as

Our tree was made unfinished and has never had any talents moved ever

[winter oxide]

I just push air

[copper hawk]

Only time it's touched is w the occasional nerf

[heady rapids]

cue a clip of a psyker killing himself with a force push

[copper hawk]

Some pushes on force weapons target only one enemy though so keep that in mind

Psyker can also block about everything

And can kite bosses better due to peril on block

Also a menace against ranged w a crit build (empathetic evasion)

[winter oxide]

Is shroudfield a good talent?

[heady rapids]

depends

it's good if you don't want to actually play the game

[copper hawk]

No

[winter oxide]

I think it needs to be deleted

[copper hawk]

Yes

Agree

Musoki ur learnin so fast..

https://tenor.com/view/basil-omori-gif-6138163442003830882

[winter oxide]

All the shroudfield users i get are troll

[placid fiber]

Cica... I get people love the mk9 heavy sword, but, I do not. Well, it isn't that I don't like it... it is just that I prefer my heavies to all do the same amount of damage I think... and you can't get stuck between the 2 vanguard heavies(on the mk6, which is my prefered heavy sword mark)

[median steeple]

Yea

[winter oxide]

someone brought shroudfield + knife to civi consignment yard and died on the first staircase

[placid fiber]

I still did top damage, tho, in the run I was in with it

[copper hawk]

Shitty pathing, already exists in a better capacity on a class that fits it better, antithetical to zealot's apparent design philosophy and intention, and has an unfavorable overlap with fury of the faithful

[placid fiber]

Have you seen this heavy sword skin, yet, cica? Idk about you, but, I love it. I am so glad I checked the premium shop the day I did. I only had to buy 500 aquillas for it. :3

[copper hawk]

Also encourages bad habits

And selfish behavior in a purely selfish manner

[modern lintel]

shroudfield daughter or infiltrate son

[copper hawk]

Whereas FotF works with the selfish nature of players in a coop game to help you fulfill your class' role

[heady rapids]

whichever dumps the aggro better

[copper hawk]

Which helps your team

[winter oxide]

I feel like a fraud lol, I barely know what the other classes do

I just queue up to play havoc

don't even know what breakpoints are

[copper hawk]

me either

and ive been playin 4 a while

and i'd say im p goode at the gam ..,

i do play the otehr classes though

vet the least, ogryn the most next to zealot

[sonic totem]

It's ok. Breakpoints are barely a thing in havoc anyway =-='

[obtuse stirrup]

It's a fun alternative playstyle that I would consider using only on difficulties where you are already very comfortable imo

Just don't be a dick, and don't act like you don't give a shit about your team.

[placid fiber]

@copper hawk Hey, Cica, did you notice that on a crit(without duelist that is) that the special and heavy 1 on the mk9 heavy sword(both heavies on the other 2 marks) do the same amount of damage vs a crusher's head? I was critting for 425 with both the heavy 1 and 2 on the mk6 and with the special <.<

It's still better to do heavy 1 into the special on the mk6, since it's immensely easier to aim the special than the heavy 2 like that

That was with all 5 sustained assault and headtaker stacks... tho... they would still probably do the same damage without them since those aren't affecting the adm <.<

Also... it's really sad... with all 5 headtaker and sustained assault stacks I am still 9 damage short of 1 shotting a dreg gunner without a crit... tho, duelist would make me reach that 1 shot breakpoint :\

[twin wagon]

Flak?

Maybe it is time to whip out the elite damage

[copper hawk]

u shakin ur camera is gonna give me a seizure

[grizzled aspen]

Who wants to bet this fella instantly eats a crusher overhead and dc's faster than a wraith main in apex?

[acoustic dune]

wtf is that skill tree

loner flashbang and chorus?

[sudden quarry]

his goals are beyond your comprehension

[vast basin]

that is relic, immos and beacon of purity

[grizzled aspen]

This is what he was running btw.

[sonic totem]

That's... Pretty cursed

Giga cdr I guess

[copper hawk]

bro didnt take purge the unclean

that is super cursed

[grizzled aspen]

Just somebody that doesn't know how the game actually works and is relying on ds to carry them.

[sonic totem]

Maybe he's just a Chad who was dared to use this cursed build, who tf knows

[solar gorge]

and he's right to do so

[sonic totem]

Very goofy

[solar gorge]

since ds will never get nerfed

[sonic totem]

DS will get nerfed the same day knife will get nerfed :)

[sudden quarry]

was he actually bad in game?

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah.

[twin wagon]

The sooner DS is nerfed the better

[sudden quarry]

because idrc if someone uses any weapon or skill, but if he’s horrible then that’s something else

[grizzled aspen]

He popped until death at least 3 times from what I saw.

Just from eating overheads.

[sudden quarry]

overheads are so yummy tho

[empty python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t35DJxnEV_o giga monster-bonking 🙂

[grizzled aspen]

Holy damage taken batman.

[sudden quarry]

can’t use scoreboard mod anymore, keeps making me crash

that and crosshair hud

[grizzled aspen]

What other mods are you using?

Because both of those mods are very stable.

[sudden quarry]

i’m telling you man i disabled and enabled every mod i have and it only worked when i disabled these 2

[hushed knoll]

Hello Frogcast

[empty python]

someone has to frontline xD, at least I didn't die and only triggered until death like once cuz of a bit of silly

also why people take damage taken into account so much I honestly gotta wonder 😐

[sudden quarry]

doesn’t matter anyway

if you pull your weight nothing else is important

[rocky marsh]

is there a viable non chorus havoc build

[empty python]

I've basically played MOSTLY Fury of the Faithful in Havoc 40, so yes, I'd say so

[rocky marsh]

im assuming you are doing chastise crit spam?
Just saw in your video you are running wounds

[empty python]

yeah basically, I like running Thunder hammer with chastise in Havoc 40, especially when there's Final Toll and/or Garden, cuz you can easily target and one-shot those garden Crushers with ease, cuz even DS with full thrust + Chastise cant even do that and Garden will heal them almost instantly if you dont kill them fast

[rocky marsh]

any other weapon? don't want to play hammer
It makes me feell ike a fast moving ogryn

also idk if they changed it but the slower weapons always had weird (TO ME) input buffers whereby it would eat up my inputs
That and certain weapons literally just can't do certain sequences things fast enough iircs

[empty python]

I don't touch Dueling sword, like ever tbh, I ran shock maul, Achlys combat axe, eviscerator and definitely relic is also amazing ofc, crusher too. But running Thunder Hammer brings the most value to Chastise cuz you're basically the boss-killer for the team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGVE-gpMYdk here's the shock maul game I had with zealot the other day

[rocky marsh]

i watched bits of both videos, one thing i don't get is why are you playing so safe? Does havok increase enemy damage overall?

[mild sparrow]

Havoc has a lot of buffs, modifiers and player nerfs

[sudden quarry]

from what i know, total health and toughness is reduced, enemy has damage reduction, there’s modifiers and one permanent modifier, emperor’s fading light, that removes toughness grace period, makes enemies shoot faster (a LOT faster).

also havoc 40 has an insane amount of enemies so my guess is that playing safe is the only way to make this bearable

[misty nova]

Every enemy and their mother hit harder, attack faster, apply corruption and on and on

Elites and bosses also have more hp

Hordes have more health and mass

Overheads are basically instakill

[sudden quarry]

how much plasteel and diamantine do you get when you clear havoc 40 weekly?

[grizzled aspen]

Overheads just are instakill. The only way around them is until death or golden toughness.

Otherwise you straight up die.

Don't go down, don't collect 200 dollars, straight up death.

[long cosmos]

Hence all the bookbots and shouting vets

[empty python]

i dunno about playing safe, cuz I dont think I was at all, but yes you do have to play somewhat safe in Havoc, one melee hit can really hurt

which is why I got the 50% TDR perk on crit, it's nice when you dive straight into enemy/boss

[hearty nebula]

death sentence

[grizzled aspen]

You can frontline with less than 200 damage taken.

Your position in the team has nothing to do with how much damage you chew on.

Your teammate is the egregious one though, 1.2k damage taken.

As for why damage taken is taken into account, the smoothness of a run is determined by skill, and you can base skill mostly on damage taken.

If there's high skill across the team, there's low damage taken across the team. If one person has a significant amount of damage taken compared to the rest, then you can safely assume they have less skill than the rest.

Note that I'm not saying you're bad, just saying that there's a lot of damage that all of you could've probably avoided.

[carmine falcon]

dmg taken doesnt matter for me as long as i dont go down

ive had games with 1k dmg taken with 0 downs

all good

[grizzled aspen]

Average until death abuse.

[carmine falcon]

i paid for it ill abuse it

its just so much fun to play relic berserker

but only really feesible if your team is good

i dont wanna be playing like a lobotomite when the others are getting downed

[bitter sun]

Schmakced him

[empty python]

I mean you do kinda have to take damage trying to head butt into monsters, especially chaos spawns and Beast of Nurgle with their slime, not to mention dwelling inside gas grenades. And honestly, sometimes I think scoreboard calculations is wack sometimes, my buddy who's a psyker probably takes a lot of dmg and die 1-2 times and at the end only got like...20 dmg taken once, which makes no sense.

Sometimes I BARELY take any dmg or even trigger any Until Death at all and still got a bunch of dmg taken

[grizzled aspen]

You can avoid damage on all of those things though.

You don't have to "headbutt monsters."

[copper hawk]

smack tuah

[copper hawk]

charge tuah

[jagged cradle]

Go to sleep

[pale spindle]

I have something for you

[copper hawk]

nop

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[jagged cradle]

Cringe

[copper hawk]

i wouldnt call yume nikki earth bound inspired

[pale spindle]

I think it is based on the boss fights

Earthbound boss fights are like fighting the shrooms

[copper hawk]

yume nikki doesn't have boss fights

it's just a dream journal art thing

[pale spindle]

No I mean the Earthbound bosses

[copper hawk]

ohg

[copper hawk]

"joining server" for nine morbillion minutes

alt f4

oh how i await the day when blood angels have their successors added and i can play then finally uninstall that frogshit game

[solar gorge]

don't diss the goat Hylics like that

[copper hawk]

what if i touched u lil cro.

[solar gorge]

what next

ur gonna trash talk felvidek

the goat

[copper hawk]

goatvidek..

[tame sluice]

okay but why shouldn't I

[vernal terrace]

@copper hawk whats your opinion of murkrow?

[carmine falcon]

audio warning

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[solar gorge]

what does this mean !

[hushed knoll]

It means whatever you want it to mean

[copper hawk]

wut dat

a pinkmonez

i dont pinkymon..

[vernal terrace]

why dont you like my fruity crow friend?

[copper hawk]

it haz no armz

and a zilly hat

bro think he ralsei ,,

https://tenor.com/view/sus-ralsei-ralsei-undertale-unexplained-anomalies-uua-anomalies-gif-26698804

7/10

[empty python]

aint you being a bit nitpicky xD? if I can open myself up to a bit of dmg to quickly kill bosses by headbutting them then why not, that 500k boss dmg isnt from reserving myself, I'd say it's a pretty fair trade-off, comes with the territory when it comes to chastise I'd say

And I was pretty much healthy most of the games and only took dmg in pretty specific situations tho, in the vid I posted, getting jabbed a few times, and most of the times from trying to save my teammates while getting pelleted, team blowing up poxburster, etc...

that said, we can all afford to be better

[grizzled aspen]

That's exactly what I was getting at.

[velvet veldt]

In terms of weapons - I saw relic blade is used a lot and seen as one of the stronger options. Is it the strongest around atm or does that title go to something else?

[misty nova]

It's like top 3

[pale spindle]

Top 4 classes???????

[misty nova]

The title of strongest belongs to Dueling Sword

Despite not really eating through hordes

Crazy how that works huh

[velvet veldt]

I saw Dueling Sword in action and wondered how RB could be stronger

But yea, RB slices hordes

[pale spindle]

On Zealot it's DS/Knife

[modern lintel]

theirs nothing relic bad at besides like some ppl dont like its mobility

[velvet veldt]

I noticed I take a bit too long for my liking to kill crushers with relic, while looking at people using DS killing them in 1.5 seconds

[pale spindle]

Relic sorta became the solution to the wave clear focused Zealot

Because other options were pretty limited

[misty nova]

If you spend resources
RB can insta kill crusher

(Sprint stab Chastise)

[modern lintel]

underhand heavy mk2 is better i think maybe

[velvet veldt]

Yea I noticed, but it seems DB can do that with less effort

But I also only have surface level knowledge

[pale spindle]

It's just that Zealot doesn't really have wave clear problems since it has soo much mobility to kite hordes and target the elites

Thanks to throwing knives, you also can just take a flamer as your secondary to fill that role

[ivory marlin]

Gmorning zealot chat

[ivory marlin]

Holy shit….

[velvet veldt]

On that note - is there a repository on what perks/blessing to use on which weapon for us? Saw Psykers have a Steam guide for that

Nvm, pins exist

[pale spindle]

Zealot doesn't really have a guide as big as the vet or Ogryn

Because we have like 1 talent tree with slight edits 💀

Fatshark pls rework Zealot, we starvin

[velvet veldt]

I already heard variety goes to die here, but as a returner that will only be my concern later down the line 😂

Which Mk would we favor for DS?

[undone pewter]

Also because whoever starts to write the guide gets afflicted by an evil miasma

[ivory marlin]

Isnt it also cuz most people in zealot chat are active and know what they are talking about

[clever swan]

maybe zealot chat is our guide

[ivory marlin]

I remember like last year i asked vet chat for vet help and they just said my build was bad with no explanation

Then i asked the same thing here and got help

[copper hawk]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3RIWy5wuApk?si=tQ9PQG1esVLev8_E

[ivory marlin]

The real zealot chat was the friends we made along the way

Hi cica

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-you-a-lot-david-barrera-gif-9120924250189534105

[ivory marlin]

I bet

Im pretty weak

[misty nova]

Mk4 for brain off
Mk2 for brain on
Mk5 for big dodges

[velvet veldt]

Thanks!

[misty nova]

Like legit Mk2 is Mk4 but with a better horde clear

But you can always pair a Flamer with Mk4 and disregard Mk2 better horde clear

Or just light attack ad infinitum on m4

[sudden quarry]

i suppose the best movement in darktide is the combat knife right?

[misty nova]

It'll kill hordes eventually

[placid fiber]

Well... I used the mk7 heavy sword for the 1st time. Decided to try a normal intensity heresy... my teammates... had trouble staying up, but, I am starting to see why people like it

I am not used to the flipped moveset from the mk6, but, I like it

[misty nova]

Yeah
Charging heavies gives like 30% move speed

Or was it 20%

[placid fiber]

I generally prefer having a downwards heavy 1, but, I think I can adapt to the mk7

[ivory marlin]

Why kill hoards when you could kill 1 guy really really well

[sudden quarry]

i wish there were more options for movement than knife and ds, or more talent points for it

i love to move fast

[misty nova]

The funniest part is that the best horde clear for Mk4 is killing one walker/groaner per swing

Light attacks and zealot kit easily meets breakpoints

[ivory marlin]

Real

I dont have much playtime on my zealot (all i did was level)

I just played knife stealth

[sudden quarry]

is eviscerator any good? i’m struggling to make it feel worth it

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-invincible-war-animation-sakuga-movement-gif-8588046742884701555

[long cosmos]

not really
because the giant chainsaw sword has no cleave

well that among other chain weapon issues

[sudden quarry]

i understand why it wouldn’t, it’s a chainsaw, but still darktide please give cleave

the only chain weapon i managed to actually like was the chainaxe

[misty nova]

Mk3 bad
MK15 goated

[sudden quarry]

that ogryn looks like his brain is melting on one side

call a medical servitor

[misty nova]

Mk15 10.9 to 11.7 cleave is higher than Chaxes 8 cleave

That being said

Both have a damage cap of 4 targets

[long cosmos]

does savage sweep increase that?

[misty nova]

Nope

However
A Revved light on the mk15 increases that from 4 to 6

[long cosmos]

so what does savage sweep do then?

[empty python]

honestly I really like Mk3's push attack + heavy combo, Mk15's light spam is nice but Mk3 having some overhead lights in the mix is nice too

plus Mk15's light spam feels somewhat clunky

[misty nova]

Increases cleave

So it goes from 11.7 to 35.1

[long cosmos]

Which doesn't increase the cap of things you can cleave through?

[misty nova]

Unfortunately
Mk3 sucks

[vast basin]

you can cleave things but do no damage

[misty nova]

Which doesn't increase the cap of things that you can DAMAGE

You still stagger them

[vast basin]

and if an enemy has enough hitmass that you cant normally hit 4 of them without the extra cleave, savage sweep might help there

[long cosmos]

so would that be worth it so you aren't getting swarmed with your memeworthy horde clear?

[misty nova]

Meme worthy? Yeah

But seriously no

Just get Rampage

[empty python]

just take perfect strike and shred honestly lol

[copper hawk]

Yerp

The meow build..

[long cosmos]

rev it up 🗣️ 🔥

[empty python]

I do like to get goofy and take savage sweep with bleed blessing on Mk3 for revved heavy attack sometimes lol

havent tried it on H40 yet, but I'll give it a swirl later xD

[copper hawk]

Ill give u a siwlr

Swirl

A SWIRLIE

Nerd ,,

https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-you-a-lot-david-barrera-gif-9120924250189534105

[empty python]

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-space-marine-dropkick-black-templar-gif-3633792756769275524

[ivory marlin]

Damn cica full of violence today huh?

[empty python]

also, I love Achlys combat axe with Thrust and BM lol, I can kill like 6-7 moebian 21st groaners in Havoc 40

in 1 heavy attack

[ivory marlin]

I liked the devil claw when i used it

Idr what mark

But it was nice

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hurt-you-a-lot-evcord-evacord-i-could-hit-you-and-hurt-you-a-lot-david-barrera-gif-9120924250189534105

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/death-total-kane-ena-bbq-deathbbq-gif-16187977532137822402

[ivory marlin]

Rip kane

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/mindwave-starlight-holohammer-head-bop-gif-16959428137437548875

[ivory marlin]

Favorite boss fr

[ivory marlin]

Is mindwave out yet?

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-albert-wesker-albertwesker-wesker-gif-10928963888818015769

[violet hornet]

Damnit my lunch doesn't show up for an hour and someone in the office is eating fried chicken

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

Me when chicken smell

[stone fern]

i believe this is valid cause for murder

[violet hornet]

I'm glad you understand

[ivory marlin]

Eat them

Oh murder is fine but eating them

What happened to not wasting food

[plush estuary]

"Oh murder is fine but eating them" -zelchat

Oh what a nice thing to wake up to

[stone fern]

🙄 oh quit it you've seen worse

[plush estuary]

Yes

[ivory marlin]

Were you around same time as mort?

[misty nova]

I mean
That's very zealot

Murdering and eating would be ogryn

[ivory marlin]

Or darcy

[misty nova]

Good nosh sah

[copper hawk]

holy gneep !

[ivory marlin]

So true

[acoustic dune]

theres a darktide update?

or nah

[placid fiber]

A couple people randomly invited me to their strike team... decided to stick around for a couple missions... They were... less than adequately skilled, to put it nicely. (They kept going down/dying to everything)

I had to solo clutch in both matches we played... <.<

[acoustic dune]

did you do the thing?

[ivory marlin]

I joined a game in progress for the wave defense thingy

[placid fiber]

Yeah I did the event thing and got all the way to the last reward from it

[ivory marlin]

It was still wave 1 2 people were down 1 was dead and i was on half health

[acoustic dune]

theres a event?

tf am i missing

[ivory marlin]

The whole game i gad to carry

[ivory marlin]

I soloed 2 plague ogryns until they were both 1 shot and someone came in to steal both kills

It was cringe

[placid fiber]

I am going to bed, playing with those 2 people who invited me... made me realize just how much better the average heresy rando I get is... and I am exhausted now... Granted I was playing Darktide for like... 6-8 hours <.<

[ivory marlin]

Real

Goodnight

[acoustic dune]

how do i do the event?

[clever swan]

do missions with the modifier

then do the sub objective by finding the little auspex things on the ground (they seem to take grim/scrip locations)

[spare talon]

im having fun

[acoustic dune]

fuck did you do to him?

[spare talon]

did you read the spell name

[acoustic dune]

yes but psecifically

[placid fiber]

sigh since I am a bit restless right now I am listening to music for a little bit while I calm down.

[acoustic dune]

in which metho of explosion of the penis did you do

[placid fiber]

Isn't it great how they left all of the fun bugs features in the game? :3

[spare talon]

I induced combustive force in his peenar region

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-get-out-thesunkenplace-gif-18483817

evil man

should have done diahreah implosion

[sullen forge]

Casually reminding me Oblivion has one of the best Magic in the series

[placid fiber]

I mean... would it really still be oblivion if you didn't sometimes wear your shield while using 2 handed weapons? And other such things

[sullen forge]

just cause of all the dumb shit you can combine together

[ivory marlin]

I cant leave the sewer or my pc shits off 😔

Need a new power supply

[placid fiber]

Have you tried finding a ladder to a manhole, so you can not be in the sewers anymore? (I am guessing you mean in Oblivion)

[acoustic dune]

Invest into nuclear

[ivory marlin]

Yeah lmao

[placid fiber]

If you can't at least buy some soap, I hear it's filthy in a sewer...

[ivory marlin]

Not too bad

Some rats and goblins every now and then

[misty nova]

The what spell

Uh

Does it

Does it work on woman

[placid fiber]

I hear there are also assassins near there, as well... Though that has to be just rumors.

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/губка-боб-грустный-gif-11206807217039404801

[violet hornet]

Makes them grow one, then blows it up

[misty nova]

[ivory marlin]

Saw some dead guys in robes

[placid fiber]

[copper hawk]

ive rediscovered roblox

thanks to pookie

this was a mistake ,,

[acoustic dune]

Which game?

And was it on mobile?

[stone fern]

i hate bulwarks so much bros.........

[copper hawk]

havent even gamed yet

i forgot how much fun dress up was

u newbies have no idea how good u have it now ,,

back in my day ,, we had the conquistador hat and like 2 faces ,,

[acoustic dune]

You play dress up?

[copper hawk]

my old account has the blue eye roll

i wonder how much it's worth now

[sullen forge]

I still have my ancient ass account

[misty nova]

Ah hell nah
Selling digital items on a kids game

(I should check my account)

[placid fiber]

That's the feeling I get when I find myself having to start a new character in Starbound, since the start to frackin universe is a bit tedious... (afaik it's frackin, idk for sure tho)

[acoustic dune]

Brother in christ I am still using my iron man helmet from the avenger collab from 2016

I haven't put it of since

[copper hawk]

holy shit there's emotes

what the fuck

[acoustic dune]

Font you need premium?

[copper hawk]

and unfathomable dogshit

https://www.roblox.com/catalog/128330422935242/Tattle-face-man-grills-tattoo

[acoustic dune]

They got the rick May emote

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/dcc-gang-rap-rapper-drinks-gif-17140384

[placid fiber]

In roblox? I'm pretty sure they were already there when I spent a very minute time testing roblox out... that was like... 8 years ago iirc, so I can't remember for sure.

[misty nova]

Real question though
Alone and numb as tattoo

💀

Not to mention the tear

[acoustic dune]

It should have been added 5 years ago

With the new human avatar

[violet hornet]

Darcy alt detected

[placid fiber]

Idk for sure if there were emotes, actually... I only played roblox for maybe... somewhere inbetween 3 and 5 hours, it was never going to be for me

[sullen forge]

https://www.roblox.com/catalog/18510348204/Cobson-Soyjak-Head

HWABAG

[copper hawk]

im fucking slayin bro

yas. kween. slay.

[ivory marlin]

Holy shit

[copper hawk]

💅 ✨ 🍵

[ivory marlin]

Peak releases a day after my birthday

[ivory marlin]

My roblox avatar is peak

[copper hawk]

ebola village

wtf

ebola drops may 12 ?

yum/

[ivory marlin]

Yeah

I played the demo

Well

I made my friend play the demo

It looked meh

Average re ripoff

I did almost buy ebola 3

[long oasis]

Why are you buying ebola

It can make you sick

[ivory marlin]

Its made by “indie_game_studio”

Whos tryna buy the evil bundle

There is like no way this isn’t a scam

Reviews kinda look legit

[misty nova]

Just a glance at my evil and twisted bundle

[ivory marlin]

But like 0 mention of the fact the games are called ebola 1-village

[ivory marlin]

You’re laughing but you get both: ebola 3 AND eternal evil, both made by “indie_game_studio”, for the low, low price of 40$.

I cant get over the name of the developers

Indie game studio

Woah

[misty ravine]

testStudioPleaseIgnore

[frosty herald]

Blood Angels Cosmetic Pack
White Scars Champion Pack
Horde Mode
Rebalancing of the Absolute difficulty following the community polls

@copper hawk get ready for death company

[signal spoke]

When the bundle is evil

[normal halo]

Any alternatives you guys would take over slaughterer or headtaker?
Looking for something that helps with crowds more.
Momentum worth it?
Shock and Awe?

I'm aware that ht or slaughter give you max dps

just wanna try something with some more utility

[signal spoke]

https://x.com/Respawn/status/1917267367144423543 speaking of evil, more evil decisions

Respawn (@Respawn) on X

X · Apr 29, 2025, 5:18 PM

[misty nova]

A Flamer

Flamer and Hammer is a centuries old match at this point

[normal halo]

Meh

[sterile basalt]

Headtaker is usually a little better than slaughterer for consistency

[normal halo]

gotcha, more uptime against single targets/bosses

[sterile basalt]

Thrust is good for chunking monster health bar but slaughterer is better for mixed horde

[misty nova]

Well thrust and headtaker/slaughterer are bread and butter of Hammer
But if you're desperate get Shock and Awe
It's not as good but it's there

Or

[sterile basalt]

Usually I’d recommend headtaker + slaughterer/thrust

[misty nova]

Keep both blessings

And get the Ironhelm

[sterile basalt]

Shock and awe not worth

[normal halo]

hate the moveset

[misty nova]

It's one of those weird havoc options

Despite hammer suffering on havoc

[sterile basalt]

In 5 years after 32 performance patches maybe Jedi Survivor will finally be playable at stable 60fps with low graphics preset on the to-be-released RTX7090

[signal spoke]

Jedi 3 coming with even worse perfomance than before

[misty nova]

Real I like my lights with some damage on em

[normal halo]

not just that. the fact that you have to get to heavy 3 for a decent strikedown turns me off

love the moveset on crucis, love thrust for deleting heavies

[misty nova]

So you either tank through with Thrust + Slaughterer/Headtaker
Or get a flamer
Or go for the desperate option of SnA

[normal halo]

I just want cleaving hordes to feel more fun

might try SnA

[obsidian prairie]

Push

A push chains into the overhead

[copper hawk]

when is it dropping

never ?!

[frosty herald]

No release date yet

[misty nova]

If you don't like flamer for some reason

Get the Agripina Brauto

[normal halo]

damn

SnA feels awful

back to slaughterer

I'll see myself out lol

[undone pewter]

After skulls at least which is probably next month

They gotta do the pointless PTS first though

[misty nova]

It truly is the really desperate option

[plush estuary]

@copper hawk You playing?

havoc 40 captain stands no chance

[clever swan]

he's just as fucked as he is in the more normal version of that mission

[copper hawk]

im actually gettin off rn sorrgy :<

i need rest

i've been up for like

[plush estuary]

I saw

3am

[copper hawk]

since like 7 PM yesterday

[plush estuary]

F

[sick thunder]

which class penances are easier to farm, zealot or psyker?

[median steeple]

While funny I do kind of hate that you can stun lock the bosses

[mild sparrow]

Psyker by far

The majority are straightforward and fast

[sick thunder]

alright thanks

guess psyker will be my third class

[misty nova]

Siker

[obtuse hemlock]

zealots on their way to chagre into the most outnumbered battle possible(they will somehow survive)

[grizzled aspen]

Ainz would know how to fucking trimp smh...

[formal umbra]

trimping is fun!

[coarse dagger]

I'm going to play with the Indignatus crusher later. Meal to prepare

how has the crusher held up over all these updates

[grave lake]

the hunt for martyr skulls continues

[placid fiber]

Hey, frog... I discovered a totally "fun" heat combo in hades 1(because I was finishing off the harsh conditions thing)... the -3 mirror upgrades, -1 boon available, forced to sell 1 boon, and also the time limit... It took out my higher chance of epic* boons, bonus boons/poms/hammers/health thing, and the rerolls one... You should have seen me go, once I realized time was ticking everywhere always. I got out in like... it was 15 minutes iirc x.x

[grizzled aspen]

It's like zealout's #2 weapon behind relic blade, imo.

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023294108864619/1366755764722729020/AQPW4-W0tvcICQngvjszuDugvgMMXZbugCA4A3RJE0eA1QfBrmyNYKPmV95zwPf6RDaxAY6EjzOrPUp3wfumOQQw_MGS.mp4

[grizzled aspen]

Very consistent damage to all armor types so you dont really need rending (though chastise will allow you to do crusher oneshots with some buffs stacked up) and powerful blessings.

[placid fiber]

I hate being hurried...

[median steeple]

Crusher is really fun but it can get boring

[grizzled aspen]

Use carapace, unyielding, skullcrusher, and slaughterer.

[placid fiber]

That hades 1 run was not fun for me...

The only real losses from the mirror were the ones that made minor upgrades more rare and epic boons more common, tbh

I'm now glad I never need to use the timer again, since that was the thing that made the run not fun for me.

[stone fern]

hurry up!!!!!

[placid fiber]

I did after I realized I wasted nearly 3 of my 9 minutes( in the 1st half of the 1st area... at least they donate you more minutes each time you get to a new floor. I am now 100% certain I will probably never touch the timer heat setting ever again... I wasn't going to ever touch it, but, a prophecy that was also a steam achievement required me to defeat hades with every single heat setting at least once...

I was leisurely breaking pots in the 1st few rooms... after I realized I wasted 3 minutes I ignored pots the rest of the run <.<'

[stone fern]

i hate timers in all games tbh

[coarse dagger]

Seems that everything is 2nd to that blade

[stone fern]

even if its super generous

[winter oxide]

i have never actually managed to one shot a crusher with crusher

even with the dash

[stone fern]

i dont think its doable

[placid fiber]

Considering the fact it removes rooms that waste your time, according to what frog said in the past... the timer was omega generous with only the 1st setting in it. I had like... 21 minutes left over by the time I won

I was booking it to the end, tho, so I wouldn't have to worry about the time getting low x.x

I was running like a daemonhost was on my tail and looking back was the end... >.>'

[misty nova]

Tiny nerfs on attack speed but it got slaughterer now

[sullen forge]

Slaughterer + Skullcrusher making it nuke everything basically

[grizzled aspen]

It's doable, trust me, I do it all the time.

[void bison]

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

[misty ravine]

Yes, and

[void bison]

this isn't improv class we don't need a yes and

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

[obsidian prairie]

First person coop game

[placid fiber]

Is the answer to dispair in one's life, and the provider of said dispair as well

[grave lake]

yea

but

also dopamine

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/white's-tree-frog-snowflake-snowflake-frog-frog-frogs-gif-540938687770057080

[placid fiber]

Exactly

[placid fiber]

It's more to people who haven't learned to expect nothing from randos, as to how it would provide dispair. <.<

[misty nova]

I legit think my second Rogue Trader playthrough is cooked

Gotta start a new one

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-22469622

[placid fiber]

Kind of like how Hades 1 was the provider of dispair to me when I had to use the timer heat setting for a prophecy(that was also a steam achievement)...

[obsidian prairie]

How

What did you do

[void bison]

I still need to beat it enough times to get the true ending

I will likely not be doing that in this lifetime

[misty nova]

Yremisswhatever, their goons and their mothers are killing my characters too fast
I got only cassia as area attack

[placid fiber]

I literally played it so much that I, with a mix of skill and brute forcing, was able to get that far... I might not be very good at top down games like hades where you have to watch out for hazards/projectiles... but one thing I am is stubborn

[misty nova]

My RT is a messy build

Pyromancer, Arch Militant with a heavy bolter

[obsidian prairie]

That should be horrifying

[misty nova]

It should
If my RT was a soldier

To get Rapid Fire and Muzzle Velocity

But my Argenta can't stay alive long enough to burst enemies down

[placid fiber]

Is that as messy as my "clutching" build was in Darktide when I used it? I had a heavy sword, a brauto, and shroudfield. <.<

[misty nova]

It makes no sense to Yrliet get 55 stacks of toxin or Round 1 first enemy move

55 fucking stacks of toxin

On round 1

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[void bison]

Wurm the earthworm

[misty nova]

The only saving grace is that I can proc one of her phase were she just goes and kills one of my characters

💀

[placid fiber]

Man... I can't even remember how many times I had to special heavy 1 crushers to death with that build... Despite that "issue" I had a ton of fun with it, tho.

[frosty herald]

o no

you know whats funnier

she has a full heal if you deplete her health

its a massive difficulty spike

[misty nova]

Like I can get Ulfar to drop every incubus on the ground with his charge thing

The Grotesques are whatever

Then on round 2 she get thrall masters as reinforcements

[frosty herald]

Do you have void shadows active?

[misty nova]

Then the turrets

[misty nova]

No just base game

[frosty herald]

Ok good

[misty nova]

What do you mean good

[frosty herald]

You arent fucked at the start of act 4

[misty nova]

[frosty herald]

Cause if your struggling this badly with the act 3 final fight youd hit a wall in act 4

[misty nova]

That's uh

The word bearers

Right?

[frosty herald]

No

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-genestealer-warhammer40k-genestealer-cults-big-brain-gif-26982823

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-brick-panel-gif-17806248

[misty nova]

Genestealers

I think I managed to squash them on my first playthrough

💀

Unless VS adds a new event

[placid fiber]

Oh boy, the thing that probably is just as bad as chaos... tyranid fanboys...

[frosty herald]

My tip for the drukhari fight is to bait all of the enemies down the stairs

The 2 collosus things will follow first and you could kill them early

[misty nova]

The Grotesques yeah

They don't do shit on round 1 and 2 but then they become problems

[frosty herald]

Take every single drug in your kit and use every nade

[placid fiber]

The biggest thing I know about genestealers is... if you got em, that's bad... like on a scale of 1 to 10... I would guess probably a 11 out of 10 <.<

[obsidian prairie]

I fucking demolished this idiot

I was straight up wasting turns sat infront of it while its invuln expired

[frosty herald]

Ill replay rogue trader when lex imperialis is out

[misty nova]

😭

Henrix got the drug build

But I'm not using Henrix

[sullen forge]

Simple

become the methhead

[median steeple]

the bert

[placid fiber]

I'll take this guy over the 2 guys that randomly invited me to their strike team and I decided to play a couple rounds with... I can't tell you how many times they died/got downed...

I had to solo clutch in both missions at least 1 time(2 times in the 1st, iirc)

[sullen forge]

I was playing Mortis Trials solo with how many players kept dying and leaving

lmao

[placid fiber]

At least solo you get the bots...

[winter oxide]

crusher needs thy wrath be swift?

[spare talon]

Is it a weapon?
If yes, then TWBS is a great talent for it

[winter oxide]

ive been browsing through gameslantern and almost nobody is taking it

[spare talon]

There's your problem

[placid fiber]

But wait, Cole, I thought a crusher was an ogryn elite

[winter oxide]

alright i fixed my crusher talent tree

had flame grenades for some reason

[misty nova]

Just blame penances

[coarse dagger]

what sorta talents you taking for crusher

[plush estuary]

SkullCrusher + Slaughter

the "what" after the shot was nice

[winter oxide]

does hammerblow work well with the crusher?

[obsidian prairie]

Used to be the pick

[plush estuary]

no, well

[obsidian prairie]

Because it had four blessings

Now we have slaughterer

[untold junco]

gamers how does the event thing work

[winter oxide]

so its bad if i take it now?

[untold junco]

it spawns randomly on any map or what

[misty nova]

Not any map

Missions with the modifier

Look for the insignia icon

[untold junco]

i see

[misty ravine]

Some weapons legit don't really need it (if they are fast and/or don't use heavy attacks much), and some builds just can't afford the points (e.g. Marty with IOD), but "you don't need TWBS unless you have skissues" has become a bit of a mantra among advice-givers who want to look good on reddit

[analog ember]

Yeah some weapons just feel really bad without TWBS

[untold junco]

generally if your advice contains word "skillissue" then its a shit advice anyway

[spare talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfAG_bqZXgY

[modern lintel]

the guy hes talking abt is the one in the background aswell

[spare talon]

ive done that quest yeah

[modern lintel]

idk what he wants me to actually do iv just been stalking this lady for 9 hours and nothing of interest has happened

[spare talon]

i broke into his house during it to see what was in there and i found notes he writes as the quest progresses

[spare talon]

he asked for you to find evidence of them being a conspirator against him

he has suspicions these people are but needs solid proof

-# look at the name of the quest

[modern lintel]

i was going to say unless this plot involves an incessant amount of tilling of multiple fields i think shes in the clear

@hard nexus

[plush estuary]

@hard nexus

[void bison]

she's tilling the fields to plant dwemer cameras to watch glarthir. they put something in the water to try and poison glarthir. vans follow glarthir. everyone is out to get glarthir

[modern lintel]

ill make sure to tell him this

[misty nova]

How tf does my team lose point when I have 2 Vanguards chasing me

[plush estuary]

me

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[misty nova]

Ainz
They went 4 Vanguards ainz

Ainz

[winter oxide]

are you guys using a scoreboard mod?

[misty nova]

I got two vanguards on the side vs me alone ainz

Ainz

I'm crying Ainz

(not really)

[plush estuary]

cant hear you over tf2

kill sounds

[misty nova]

Raaaaah

[modern lintel]

yes (no)

[modern lintel]

shes been eating the same bowl of something standing in a field for 2 hours now

no not a bowl its bread

adoring fan keeps interrupting her

[misty nova]

I fought two vanguards and a strategists for a minute

On the other side of point

How tf does my team lose point

Ah of course

Squirrel Girl teammates

[tranquil owl]

Check hm playtime they have on her too

Thats the best part sometimes

[misty nova]

HELLO?!?!?

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/sasha-wolfdog-wolp-wolfdog-gif-121748570528648525

[misty nova]

Bro was a lord Hela

Playing Squirrel Girl

[jagged cradle]

Why is there a tiktok edit of it

[misty nova]

Why not

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-joker-lightning-god-patrick-bateman-sigma-edit-gif-11768805784532291762

[hard nexus]

spite

[jagged cradle]

Yeah sounds like you

Unfortunately

I mean fortunately

[rocky marsh]

on non fast weapons you really want twbs
e.g. on caxe, you generally want to heavy the crusher.
means that without twbs, you could get your heavy reset by normal mobs or the crusher doing his quick elbow.
Not saying caxe is a non fast weapon, just showing why you would want twbs in general.

Equivalent for crusher weapon would be your charged heavy (aoe stagger). You don't want that interrupted.

There is less reason to take it compared to last time because if im not wrong, ranged enemies don't stagger you anymore (idk if they reverted or changed this again) since twbs works on ranged too.

Also i would say generally discord more knowledgeable but defo ask them the reason for taking specific nodes + use some critical thinking

[misty nova]

I'm putting Mr Fantastic on the bag

Today we climb

Yeah not on this match

💀

Ok maybe

Ok I was wrong

This match

Fantastic

[misty ravine]

Regular ranged enemies still stagger you, but gunners and reapers don't anymore (as of a few months ago IIRC)

[winter oxide]

wound psykers are a thing?

[misty nova]

Yes (no)

Theoretically you can go Crystalline Will

And pop every 30 seconds

At the cost of 1 wound

But the pop damage and radius is so bad it's not worth it

[winter oxide]

i see a lot of psykers with wound in havoc

[stable cypress]

non marty wounds have always been sus but its extra bad in havoc lmao

[ornate bone]

I’ve tried a few of the martyrdom builds. They are pretty cool if you god tier at dodging all damage sources, but I ain’t that good. I find the risk isn’t often worth the reward for me personally.

It does fine when you get lose about half wounds. Thats the sweet spot where you have enough health to get out of some bad spots, but still enough buffs to notice a big difference.

[winter oxide]

i cant tell if theyre running the matrydom build or not

lol

[placid fiber]

uh, only zealot has marty

The closest another class has is the oggy's double toughness generated when below 33% hp talent <.<

[misty nova]

Too stubborn to die
My goat

[ornate bone]

I ran that build with my tankgryn recently. It’s kinda disgusting. You literally don’t die unless you get hit by a perfect storm of shit

[winter oxide]

wounds on psyker is troll then

in havoc

[obsidian prairie]

wounds on psyker is troll then

in havoc

[winter oxide]

dont they work well with matrydom

[obsidian prairie]

Needed for martyrdom but otherwise don't run wounds

[ornate bone]

I usually run health % if I’m playing zealot. I find there’s so many talents/abilities that give you toughness replenishment that it becomes redundant.

But if I get caught in a puddle of a scab bomber or flamer, more health will always keep me alive over toughness. At least, it’s what I’ve found.

[obsidian prairie]

I run 2 tough and 1 health, unless I'm using a PA weapon like knife or crusher and then I run 2 tough 1 stam

[mighty root]

Marty so ass

[obsidian prairie]

All toughness regen besides Coherency is percentile

More toughness is more toughness replenished

[ornate bone]

It’s true. I’ve done all toughness builds and all health, and a bit of a mix. I may try your x2 toughness curios with 1 health just to see how it does

[obsidian prairie]

And more toughness helps reduce bleedthrough because of math

[ornate bone]

Do you throw the +5% toughness on them each as well?

[obsidian prairie]

I'd run 3 tough but diminishing returns by comparison

one 21% hp gives more relative benefit than a third 17%

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

One of the four uncontestably good attributes

[ornate bone]

That’s sort of how I felt when I ran 3 toughness curios.

I’ll mess around when I get home.

I always run the +5% toughness on mine as well, or +5% health, or combo of both. But I only play on damnation and have only done a couple of auric runs, so I’m not too in depth into the breakpoints and such

[obsidian prairie]

There aren't any real HP/toughness breakpoints besides 200 hp and a 20% sniper resist (which I ignore)

Practical breakpoints I should say

There's silly stuff like toughness tanking a sniper

[ornate bone]

I don’t bother with sniper resistance myself. I usually run 2 gunner resistance, a tox flamer and scab bomber

[obsidian prairie]

Flamer and bomber resistance is largely useless

and that sniper resist is purely to survive 2 shots without going down

Which is why I ignore it, as when the fuck is the only HP damage you've taken going to be 2 snipers

[ornate bone]

I find for me I can usually dodge snipers easily enough anyway.

So two gunner resist. Do you bother with stamina traits or naw?

[obsidian prairie]

Stam regen

[ornate bone]

I usually run stamina regrn

Yeah, exactly

[obsidian prairie]

I run 3x minor toughness, 3x gunner res, and 3x stam regen

all curios all classes

[ornate bone]

I’ll give it a shot tonight! Thanks for the advice.

[misty nova]

No

https://tenor.com/view/suit-meme-gif-3154536417054843778

[misty nova]

Raaaaah

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/jennie-jennie-kim-blackpink-blackpink-jennie-dead-chat-gif-27280179

oh

[misty nova]

Fuck this bitch ass elf

[void bison]

hail sithis

[misty nova]

I hope Slanny sucks her soul through a straw

No infact she's a drukhari she might like it

I hope Slanny insta digest her

Oh wait depriving her of a good torture seems like a good torture

Raaaaaah

I shall kill every elf

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-not-just-the-men-but-the-women-and-children-too-not-just-the-men-women-and-children-too-gif-17266839

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-blow-kisses-blow-kiss-chu-gif-7279350028791621942

[sage swan]

question, is it worth it to go for Bleed for the Emperor (40% dr to health damage) when doing a martyrdom build? or is that side of the starter tree before stun nades just bobo in general?

[misty nova]

Raaaaah
Death to Yrliet

Raaaaah

[sage swan]

I know most every build goes down the right path, with maybe a splash in the middle, but 40% dr sounds good

[winter oxide]

is devil's claw or heavy sword better for carapace?

[visual stream]

Why not 3x age of consent toughness 🤨

[misty nova]

Are you planning to stay on low HP during long periods of time? If yes then BFTE will kinda just be sitting there

It's theoretically good

If you don't sit at 2 wounds for 90% of the match

[sage swan]

i just heal when healing is available, if I get hurt, then I get buffed

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-ferrets-cute-cute-ferret-ferret-cute-gif-6237859641732984062

[sage swan]

I do prefer to take healing last, but if it's there it's there

[misty nova]

Devil's Claw

[sage swan]

despite Zealot being probably the best class in the game still, I really hope their talent tree gets a rework.
if I got my way, I'd make Holy Revenant and Until Death baseline passives for the class, because there's not a single build that doesn't take them, especially with Duellist sitting right there next to them

I'm sure I'm just regurgitating what a ton of people already figured out though

[stable cypress]

yep

[sage swan]

[analog ember]

Don’t need it imo

[hearty nebula]

lol

lmao even

[sage swan]

[hearty nebula]

[winter oxide]

zealot best class?

[hearty nebula]

no

[winter oxide]

ok

[sage swan]

downplay your main so the devs don't nerf them

[hearty nebula]

i mean its not really

by a longshot, currently

[sage swan]

I think they're still strong, especially since they're undoubtedly the best with a dueling sword
unless there's some fucked up turbo melee vet build out there

I've been trying out Scrier's Gaze with melee psyker for awhile now and having varying results

[obsidian prairie]

Scriers is pure damage soup

[sage swan]

Feast or famine type build

Very not worth it when you could be using trauma or inferno instead

[hearty nebula]

iunno duelling sword isn't really zealot's best pick anyways in terms of just how fast you can mulch shit

[sage swan]

It's certainly one of the safest weapons in the game, next to knife

[hearty nebula]

relic blade thrashes it in basically every department besides single target & mobility

and if you're not wasting your dodges then the mobility stops being so much of a concern anyways

[formal umbra]

being able to one shot crushers is genuinely so good, its worth considering duelling sword for on its own

[hearty nebula]

you can one shot basically anything anyways

you're playing zealot

[formal umbra]

true

[hearty nebula]

or god forbid you pull out a gun

[sage swan]

If relic blade had easy access to 100% rending it'd be just as op as dueling sword

[formal umbra]

flamer is a really good panic button lol

[hearty nebula]

you literally have fotf

guess what it does

[obsidian prairie]

Live fotf reaction

[obsidian prairie]

More fun

Way more fun

Trauma or purgatus is just holding buttons and staying out of melee

Tac axe scriers is going absolutely ballistic

[sullen forge]

Rending I think?....

[hearty nebula]

yea

[sullen forge]

perhaps brittleness

[hearty nebula]

[sullen forge]

Me when I hold sprint + FOTF, and poke a crusher in the head killing it instantly

[hearty nebula]

real

even then

it's like what

2-3 headtaps with relicblade

idk not too hard to delete crushers with it in the first place

[sage swan]

I don't think fotf gives rending? Do crits just have innate rending?

[obsidian prairie]

It gives 100% rending

*melee rending

[sullen forge]

And get this right.......

it also

Deletes hordes

something that the DS struggles with

[sage swan]

am I a fool for expecting the tooltip to have all the info a skill does?

[sullen forge]

Thats just fatshark tooltip naming