zealot-class

[placid fiber]

has to swim through lava to get to the center

[wet rain]

any cycle continuers in chat?

[placid fiber]

I can't tell you how many times I had to get through lava cuz the 1st or 2nd liquid type on strange sea planets was lava

[clever swan]

https://youtu.be/EmcuF7UggkQ?t=59

MASS EFFECT REFERENCE??

[wet rain]

https://tenor.com/view/signalis-gif-6087585662321898091

[sterile stone]

I swear I saw your name in another game yesterday

[placid fiber]

@sullen forge tfw you find alien fluid as the liquid in a strange sea

[formal umbra]

Was it fallout 76

I've been playing that

[sterile stone]

Yeah

I was trying to find raid groups to farm 4 stars

[formal umbra]

Hell yeah I get an excuse to post camp screenshots

I need to farm 4 stars as well

[sterile stone]

I'm close to finishing the season

LEvel 91 rn

I wish 76 had crossplay

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/guru-larry-larry-bundy-jr-larry-bundy-burglar-robber-gif-22351451

[formal umbra]

I finished it a bit ago

[sterile stone]

My console account has years of stuff on it

And I can't use it

[formal umbra]

I need the 100 page rewards tho

Aw that blows

I've been playing on and off since wastelanders

[sullen forge]

I won’t lie it’s pretty easy to level now In 76 with raids being added sometime ago

[formal umbra]

I'm currently server hopping to try and get the accelerated nozzle for the Gatling plasma

It's pretty annoying

Yeah

Esp with how easy the raids kinda are if you have the gear

[void bison]

f76 has interested me at points but i've never bought it

[sullen forge]

I got a bunch of pyros for 4 star modifiers I’m literally set

Cause I have the Cremator and Flamer

[sterile stone]

Duuuuuude

Holy shit

I've been fucking TRYING for WEEKS to get gatling plasma parts

The drop chance is like .02%

[formal umbra]

I got the stinging capacitor like. Within the first few drops. I was actually dumbfounded

Now I just need the accelerated nozzle but it's evading me with all of its being

[sterile stone]

Wait

Can you craft the reflector legendary?

[formal umbra]

Idk

I just use ricochet

[sterile stone]

Can you solo the guardian?

[formal umbra]

I don't think I can with my current gear

Maybe if I have a bunch of canned coffee

Maybe if I do the auto axe cheese

[sterile stone]

Yeah I was talking to a guy running guardian last night

Dude would make a private world and just cap all workshops

And just toss down coffee machines everywhere

[formal umbra]

Yeah I'm thinking of doing that while I have the 1st membership my friend got me

[sterile stone]

Game doesn't feel right without 1st

You get too many QoL benefits

Which is scummy as hell but whatever.

[frosty herald]

Im not paying 10 bucks a month for basic features

[formal umbra]

Yeah that's why I didn't pay for it

lol

[grizzled aspen]

Get in touch with Tintin.

[sterile stone]

I have

[grizzled aspen]

Tintin will trade you parts or just give them to you lol.

[sterile stone]

He's incredibly unreliable.

[grizzled aspen]

WOW

That's rude smh.

At least he tries.

[sterile stone]

I've been asking him for like 4 days to trade.

And it's always an excuse.

So I've just moved to doing it myself.

[grizzled aspen]

Man is busy.

Hes got college or whatever to worry about.

[sterile stone]

Bro is deadass always playing a game.

[grizzled aspen]

Bruh.

[formal umbra]

Yeah I'm just doing it myself too

[grizzled aspen]

Ok maybe he's less busy than I thought.

[sterile stone]

Like bro how do you offer to help someone

And 4 days in a row.

You have an excuse.

Like I woulda been less critical if he just said he didn't feel like playing anymore.

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-bird-bird-big-feet-pukeko-heart-locket-gif-2821869059124172554

[formal umbra]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

[hushed knoll]

@acoustic dune

I’m making bubblegum chicken

[grizzled aspen]

Inb4 another Stan flavored abomination:

[hushed knoll]

Bubblegum chicken sounds good

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-24788965

[hushed knoll]

Omg hello Mr. Shake pro

Sharquino

[hushed knoll]

?

[sullen forge]

Psyker hatred at max, gloriana start immediately get barreled by one

[stone fern]

bruh

i just loaded into glorina

u did this

[sullen forge]

Im not playing with a Psyker stack thats constantly hitting barrels

im good

[plush estuary]

Hop tf2

[stone fern]

and got barreled

i hate gale..............

[sullen forge]

It was a psyker that did it

[stone fern]

couldnt see

i thought hey one hit wont kill me right?

WRONG

[delicate shadow]

hi Stanislaw

[sterile stone]

The Gods have answered my prayers

You have been SMITED

[modern lintel]

hallelujah

[frosty herald]

Gloriana rite of passage

[plush estuary]

@copper hawk

[misty nova]

Immediately dashes trapper

Sometimes I forget that Oggy can do that now

[stone fern]

if u double tap S u stop early btw

veri op

also ate 5 crusher overheads this game alone

i havent ate one all month

[obtuse stirrup]

delicious tbh

[grizzled aspen]

If your medic was cool you both could've bodyblocked him for the taunt kill.

[red mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWEM7TJnNqA

how do i stop being trash and throwing like this

i have the ability to solo this, but i inevitably always do something really dumb and throw

usually with a trapper, dog, barrel mutant or cs grab or some combination of flamer and those

is there a trick to ironing out that consistancy and stop charging straight at trappers after 2k hours?

or do other AM solo players just not post those fails lmao

[queen oyster]

Everyone let's their guard down ,shi happens,tho usually the answer always is be patient and just dodge

[jagged cradle]

Why do you play tf2

Kinda cringe

[tawny harbor]

You're trying to play a team game like it's a single player game. That's your problem. I will never understand you people.

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[grizzled aspen]

That's how you play aurics.

If you rely on your teammates in anything below havocs, you are playing the game wrong.

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-mobile-suit-gundam-colony-drop-gundam-true-gif-10523738378847208580

[tawny harbor]

You're not relying on your teammates, your teammates are relying on you. And if you do get hit by a net, you want to have someone to help you. Is this REALLY such a hard concept?

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/trueposting-bugburger2-morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-false-true-love-gif-9900856451749048344

[misty ravine]

The game doesn't strictly force you to play with a team, so playing it solo is very challenging but doable. Building the skills to succeed without any help will make you that much more of an asset when you do play with a team. Seems straightforward to me

[placid fiber]

Yes, but, being able to handle yourself when shit goes south and your team gets downed is a great asset to you as a player. It will improve how much you can help your team and how much stress you can handle in the thick of it

It isn't something that you want to do every time, but, it's part of increasing your skill as a player

And with a higher level of skill, your team will overall be able to handle things better

You're not trying to have to solo clutch, if anything you're trying to avoid having to do it again

[merry flume]

i rely on my teammates in a team game

[lean cairn]

whats your build? if you're using a bleed blessing you need to use uncanny strike to make it do a significant amount of damage
the area you died in has infinite spawns and is pretty much a death trap so you wanna move through it as fast as possible
using the artificial latency mod makes specials a lot easier to deal with and it feels a lot easier to dodge them
cackling trapper can also be used to hear trappers constantly instead of them moving around silently and you only hearing them when they're about to kill you, it can also do the same for dogs if you edit some stuff
either dodge the trapper or ping it and throw a knife, only charge into it if you can get to it before it fires, which staggers it
when you hear the trapper sound, ignore the horde and look exclusively for it. if you expect a trapper with every special wave, and learn special spawn locations for each part of the map, it becomes very easy to kill the trapper before it gets close. if there's a boss in front of you, make some space between the two of you so it doesnt block your knife

[tawny harbor]

I know that and I build around that. But I'm not gonna act like I'm the sole main character when the game is built around having a couple of guys with you.

[lean cairn]

the way i got over 90% of my runs ending in a trapper/dog was playing hishock instead and hyper focusing on dogs and trappers every time they spawned, ignoring every other enemy entirely. i never did fancy stuff with killing them, and just pushed/dodged dogs then made sure to kill them after they staggered. with trappers, it's sometimes better to let them get away while you deal with other stuff, instead of chasing them down because there's a long gap between their shots, and chasing them after they run away can get you in trouble

i'd recommend starting with hishock solos before moving on to I-II, it's more fun imo as there are no green specials that will kill you point blank

[placid fiber]

I mean how you choose to act is for you to decide. The game is built around having a team, but, sometimes your team is inadequate to say the very least. You're not the "main character", but, neither can you fully trust a squad of randoms. They range anywhere from competent/good to worse than trash

[carmine falcon]

wanting to do solos is just another layer of challenge

many co op games offer solo modes too

[lean cairn]

and dont be afraid of trying other maps, sycorax is underrated in its difficulty for solos imo because half the map is one long corridor whereas a map like baross gives lots of kiting space @red mesa

[carmine falcon]

so it's not some weird behavior

[placid fiber]

I've never wanted to need to solo clutch... but learning how and increasing my skill to that point helped me grow as a player and work with less and less competent players more easily

[merry flume]

yes there's definitely a challenge involved

[sterile stone]

Shits easy to pick up a fumble when the team sand bags die

[lean cairn]

just become good enough that you can replace pubs with solos entirely

[sterile stone]

Just stealth

[lean cairn]

then its always your fault if you lose

or sometimes the game's

[carmine falcon]

i wish someone would add an addon to craeture spawner that simulates scinarios like last man standing clutches

or other stuff

in a real part of a real map

would be pretty damn cool

[placid fiber]

That would be cool

[lean cairn]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/479?tab=description

[carmine falcon]

ah the reginald mod

[lean cairn]

havent messed with this too much but it can do that

[carmine falcon]

from what ive seen its limited but maybe they added stuff

ill play around with it thanks for reminding me it exists

[sterile stone]

tl;dr gain a omnipotent level of autism and nolife

So you can learn to solo a casual game.

Get to it

[carmine falcon]

errrrm akswally this is a comp game

its me against my ego

1 on 1 hell in a cell

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-mankind-hell-in-a-cell-fall-gif-14555677

[sterile stone]

My bad chief

Forgot

Scoreboard > having fun

Havoc levels > fun

[lean cairn]

https://youtu.be/ESMWd9ZT-Kc in this one again you dont want to hang out in that first corridor because it's a straight line that's basically impossible to consistently kite in, move out of there and to the right to go up the stairs and start kiting in that direction

[carmine falcon]

i should play some dorkshite before work tomorrow

abolish mondays

wait its already monday

[sterile stone]

It's sunday

Get a real timezone

[carmine falcon]

so real

[placid fiber]

By the way, Argus. Next time we play together I hope I don't need to have 200 ping >_>

[sterile stone]

No that was Yams fucking fault

Bro qued us into a South Asian server

For some reason

[placid fiber]

that might be closer to where he lives

[clever swan]

based yam moment

[sterile stone]

He's European.

[placid fiber]

Idk then

[placid fiber]

I can't tell you how many muties went through my ogryn that run without grabbing me lol

[long cosmos]

Rizz 'em with the 'tism

[sterile stone]

When it's darktide

It's always the tism

[grizzled aspen]

Do you understand the concept of circular logic?

Because that comment tells me you don't.

[placid fiber]

sigh tomorrow I have to choose between janky connection darktide and Starbound... I am leaning towards starbound while darktide is in this state

People have been complaining about connection issues in darktide, quite a lot

[sterile stone]

Starbound wasn't so bad.

It's a shame it's dead

[long cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/fiber-optic-friday-eat-the-optic-cable-cable-shark-fibre-shark-gif-25548843

fatshark rn

[placid fiber]

me and my 50 mods in it:

I love frackin universe

[sterile stone]

I dunno about the mods

I just joined random worlds

Til there was nothing to join left

[placid fiber]

It complicates the game in a few ways, but, it also makes you less able to brute force/bypass/cheat some things

[placid fiber]

Ever seen a planet with an ocean of beer? >:3

[sterile stone]

I can't truly remember

[placid fiber]

Probably not cuz I think that's a frackins universe thing

[sterile stone]

Most I remember was that hub area you'd see alot of people at.

[placid fiber]

Most of which are npcs

I haven't done much with the mechs in my starbound

[sterile stone]

Word

[placid fiber]

I love exploring strange sea planets in starbound, you never know what the liquid is gonna be

It could be beer, it could be lava, it could be liquid irridium, it could be alien fluid, and so on and so on

You know, usual fluids

[red mesa]

lol do people doing true solos really upset you?

[red mesa]

ya, usually i try to move through them quick but got caught up but the pogryn etc. ill try to focus on just gtfo of those immediately at all costs

[delicate shadow]

if you don't enjoy 300+ ping then you aren't hardcore enough

simple as

[red mesa]

ah ok, i will try that ty

[hard nexus]

“you people”

lmfao

[hard nexus]

people do true solos for the challenge

[grizzled aspen]

Meow, I wouldn't waste your breath.

[red mesa]

ya, ive gone back and forth on the build. Ive found the bleed helps consistency on non-armor targets and i can just rely on precog + crits for armor. Uncanny/FT is usually what i would run but i found the spikes from precog really helpful on soloing the bosses. I show the build at the very beginning but i ended up on FT + precog to have FT for general consistancy, and precog for spikes relying on high crit for armor. But ive also used uncanny and just kinda gone back and forth lol

[red mesa]

ok cool, good overall tips. I def try to do those things but dont always consistantly ill focus on it more. And ya, idk why i charged the trapper. it just was like a split second reaction of derpness, i was so mad lol. imma look into crackling trapper and try it

[lean cairn]

    sound_data.events.footstep = "wwise/events/minions/play_enemy_chaos_hound_vce_bark"
end)```

add this to the main lua file and it'll make dogs bark when running so you can hear them

[red mesa]

nice, tbh those are my 2 worst and i do sometimes complain of 2 audio. but i never wanted to download the spider sense stuff

this is a good compromise

so at least the audio for them is clear

[lean cairn]

they should just be like this normally tbh, idk why they went backwards from the hook rat in vt2

[hard nexus]

yeah being in your vicinity is a waste after all

[hard nexus]

(i can just bait until i win trust me)

(it’ll be awesome)

[red mesa]

didnt realize posting that would spark a debate on existential debate on solo challenge runs, btw, my b. thanks for tips tho

[lean cairn]

np lemme know if you have any questions

[red mesa]

so just to wrap back, should i just run precog/uncanny i guess? i was testing it as well i did some runs with both and wasnt sure which felt better, tbh

[lean cairn]

bleed is really good for bosses especially since a flamer is hard to use to apply a DOT while avoiding the attacks but if precog FT works for you keep using it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/soraya-montenegro-gasp-in-spanish-maria-la-del-bario-shocked-surprised-gif-10045905

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/so-funny-laugh-giggle-gif-16176178

[tawny harbor]

Come on. I'm an expert on that.

[grizzled aspen]

No, no you aren't. :)

[hard nexus]

expert on these nuts

pwned

[grizzled aspen]

GOTEEM

[red mesa]

are you saying uncanny + ft is the best combo and to just drop precog ?

[lean cairn]

i usually run uncanny + bleed yeah

[red mesa]

im sure you can kinda make any combo of them work

ya it seems goodf

[lean cairn]

there's a lot of ways to make knife work yeah

[red mesa]

i do love the big spikes of precog tho lets me burst down bosses real quick if i need to

[lean cairn]

uncanny doesnt really do anything vs bosses but against big groups of armour you can melt multiple armoured enemies at once and get them out the way

[red mesa]

ill try the pure bleed setup and see how it feels with ft/uncnny

[lean cairn]

thankfully fatshark unfucked the crafting so we can try whatever now

[red mesa]

ya precog i think makes a small diff on boss bleed dmg if i remember but not a big one

been a while since i looked

191 a tick vs 302 a tick on a pogryn

actually is a decent bump with 5 stacks of uncanny vs 0

i was runny uncanny + precog which also felt good, big overal dmg and you still have bleed from scourge

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/i’ve-fallen-and-i-can’t-get-up-i’ve-fallen-i-can’t-get-up-can’t-get-up-life-alert-gif-6449783994487402911

[red mesa]

but its hard to have it at max stacks ever

[lean cairn]

yeah i like a bleed blessing if im running knife just for the dot on bosses while kiting

i prefer boltgun in solos tbh just for the dot and the boss killing

then horde clear with some melee other than knife

[red mesa]

tbh knife isnt even that bad horde clear especially with an uncanny/ft setup

its totally doable

[placid fiber]

So how many feet does it need?

[red mesa]

i like boltgun too but i take flamer for those oh shit hallway moments and just burn 2-3 bosses at once sometimes lol

[lean cairn]

it is yeah

[placid fiber]

[red mesa]

at least 6

[placid fiber]

damn, I only have 5 and a half

[red mesa]

rough world out there for us under 6, chics like the number 6

[placid fiber]

It is, but, uh... idk what I was thinking

I am 6 2 x.x

[red mesa]

so what you running on bolter in solo's calcvacade puncture?

or pinning fire?

i might try it, would be nice not to lean on flamer for once

[lean cairn]

cavalcade puncture yeah

[red mesa]

flak/unyielding?

[lean cairn]

shoot 4 times -> wait for stacks to drop to 12 -> shoot one time again -> repeat and you can kill bosses in under 1 full mag

[red mesa]

i could see an argument for unarmoured for gunner breakpoints if you need to, or maniac

for dumping rangers

[lean cairn]

or carapace unyielding

[red mesa]

you mean BON lmao

the rest im def stabbing in the face if i can

but fuck bon

[lean cairn]

BON and bulwarks are the reason i always take DOT ranged

[red mesa]

i typically dont dump carapace but it does help in a pinch i guess

especially green buffed maulers/crushers you cant stagger. fuck those guys

[lean cairn]

i do I-II instead to avoid green specials

[red mesa]

ya i hate them

[lean cairn]

losing to a green trapper right at the end of a solo isnt fun

[red mesa]

but i just want the I II VEG win for the record books

they are the worst lol

or dog

i swear sometimes you can push a green dog, othertimes it will just say fuck you

i get scared and try to just dodge em now if green

[lean cairn]

yeah you have to push them after they jump

they cant be staggered by a push before they jump

[placid fiber]

nurgle blessed ones? The ones immune to stagger? >.>

[red mesa]

same with a trapper you get to it and stab it in the face or hit a knife and it doesnt die and shoots anyway

[lean cairn]

so if you push before they've jumped you might not have enough time to push after they jump

[lean cairn]

especially bad when there are effects everywhere and you cant tell it's green

[red mesa]

ya might be thats what happens to me

[lean cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_0z_sN5PeI this was the first run where i started deliberately taking trappers + dogs very seriously

[red mesa]

yes im already liking the bolter and the extra trapper/dog awareness, gonna give it a go now and nice run

i do like the MKIII knife too, i kinda go back and forth

but i find i just do better with the 6

idk what it is

i actually learned on the III before the 6 came out and used to main it

then the 6 came out and converted somehow

[lean cairn]

it's good for its push attacks into boss combos like the chaos spawn combo

[red mesa]

ya i love that, i just go 'cool bro' and keep the london simulator going

ive considered running 2x stamina curios for it, tbh

since i do spam it quite a bit

but have found i have enough stamina as long as i manage it/respect it

and thuoght wanting to spam more might just be greedy

i am taking an extra +15 toughness on my tree tho bc i find i dont need the 10% attack speed node

so might be room to drop some toughness, idk

[lean cairn]

i just attackspeed max and go IJ without TWBS

[red mesa]

ya that works

i find i just hate the lower crit consistancy of IJ

might just be a mental thing and not an actual performance hting

[lean cairn]

thats why i take lacerate

[red mesa]

but im a piety high crit addict

[lean cairn]

with scourge im always critting

[red mesa]

ya ive seen some others run lacerate

[lean cairn]

i've been doing BP with stalwart a lot recently

it's nice in solos cause stalwart + good balance lets you ignore small hits

[red mesa]

youtuber posted a havoc 40 true solo (last season i believe) and was using lacerate

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269791447037640798/1366237311146262558/snapins-ai_3568309300046813390.mp4?ex=68103726&is=680ee5a6&hm=73facac52a0d7ce43d17b14d534f9a57a3a088eab07567efd2a7c33331ace98a& @hard nexus

[lean cairn]

oh yeah lilian i know her

[red mesa]

i do see people take stalwart

ive done it in havoc before for saftey

with a rando group but not otherwise

my concern is can i still push atk combo into stuff like cs combo without twbs?

i havent tested it

bc i can drop twbs and go stalwart + 10% attack speed node

would be an interesting swap

[placid fiber]

+2% toughness back on kills(I think on second wind as well and other non-coherency recoveries besides inspiring barrage)

[lean cairn]

Pretty sure yes

[red mesa]

ya i find cs dueling a lot harder with MKIII testing it now overall

i mean ya its totally doable but its harder to hit my best attacks on its head

the special combo is tough to use, i find i can get 1-2 of trhem in when he slams and after a grab dodge

[lean cairn]

yeah the special attack is really ony to be weaved in occasionally, it's much slower than the MK3

[red mesa]

oh ya i only use it here or there on mk6

what i mean is on mkIII i just find chaos spawn dueling a bit tougher

just spam heavies and dodge i guess but i have a harder time hitting h is head

you have to like angle

[lean cairn]

that's also true

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-get-out-thesunkenplace-gif-18483817

[hard nexus]

real video of me actually

[misty mason]

Stan horror best horror

[red mesa]

are you using bolter to break bulwark shields? bc i feel like it just doesnt or takes more shots than im ever willing to commit it sucks

[jagged cradle]

You’re an old man ?

[lean cairn]

apparently it's meant to take like 5 shots but sometimes they just feel like ignoring every shot so you can empty a whole mag and they dont stagger

instead i just walk somewhat close to bait them into doing an attack then magdump their heads

[red mesa]

ya i bait the attack too but sometimes they wont do it in time and you're like ughhh

lmao

[tame sluice]

or they do the shield bash and waste your time

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/nelosca-frog-doppio-gif-19072852

[misty mason]

I have once again completed two Aurics and have not gotten progress towards survivor

[copper hawk]

Slug

[misty mason]

Annnnd I died

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/tentofate-elmo-elmo-staring-gif-11901234066681497328

[acoustic dune]

do you have one where the frog lock in?

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-25825098

[acoustic dune]

ok now post toad

[void bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1154213726354952304/toad_frog.gif

[acoustic dune]

isnt that a frog?

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-frog-amphibian-green-littlekingdoms-gif-22896515

[void bison]

just take morphine

[clever swan]

the brony amongst furries........truly a black pony.............

[grizzled aspen]

My honest reaction when I see posts like that:

[grizzled aspen]

Holy peak.

[copper hawk]

Faile..

[plush estuary]

you playing?

[twin wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1365794075550154762/Funny_mutant.gif

[obsidian prairie]

RIVERS IN THE DESERT!!!!!!

[obsidian prairie]

My wheel of time brainrot going off

[placid fiber]

[median steeple]

Zimvincible is peak

[gilded anchor]

Is the assassin ability viable in higher difficulties like hovac ?

Cuz I've never seen anyone use it there

[copper hawk]

Nope im despairing

Thankz 4 askies though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1362472539686703104/tenor_1.gif

[modern lintel]

hideaway

[remote wasp]

Grab ur crusher

[clever swan]

out there somewhere is a military installation being defended by cica (maybe)

[jagged cradle]

What monster flavor are you drinking today

[silver warren]

Does anybody know the proper timings for hitting a double shroudfield crit with the knife?

I can do it here and there but its not consistent at all

[plush estuary]

As soon as the knife hit pop stealth

Just keep trying

It clicked for me after awhile

[silver warren]

Like as soon as the thrust starts or right before it hits?

[plush estuary]

When it hits

[wary finch]

"Sir the smyker has been killed in the barrel blast" ass energy

[bitter anvil]

the most environment-awareness player:

[silver warren]

Im still tryna figure it out. Just a bit confused how Im supposed to pop stealth when the knife hits because yes its not taking me out of stealth but its also not giving the crit or the finesse bonus

Popping it right as I let go of the heavy attack does it but not very consistently

idk if Im doing it too early or too late

[plush estuary]

Sorry that I can't explain it well, it's just muscle memory. And I'm not at my pc

Best way I can say is, the frame before the knife would make a hit marker, use stealth

[silver warren]

Ah. Im still gonna try and figure it out I really wanna get good at it

[plush estuary]

It comes with time

I might be able to get a clip of it when I get home

[silver warren]

Ok I see what you mean now Im gonna keep trying

[bitter anvil]

I'm coding making darktide enemy for tf2 mann vs machine bot

managed put some shield on heavy bot

[copper hawk]

Viking berry

[jagged cradle]

I’ve never heard of that in my life

Is it good

[obsidian prairie]

Divine Retribution

[formal umbra]

I'm never hitting 40.

[plush estuary]

Don't forget

If the enemy hp goes down to 0, they die

[jagged cradle]

I thought they reincarnated instead

[plush estuary]

Nah

People die of death

[jagged cradle]

Hmm

This is a revelation indeed

[acoustic dune]

OK so question

What if

You see thus in your room

https://tenor.com/view/aitor-gif-7084060237011549479

What you do

[formal umbra]

Thank you zealot chat for helping me see the light of the tac axe

I'm having so much fun with it in havoc

[glossy orbit]

What are the best perks and blessings for Relic Sword?

[formal umbra]

Maybe I'll develop carpal tunnel because of it but that's just how the cookie crumbles

[formal umbra]

Cranial Grounding + Rampage/Wrath

[glossy orbit]

And Flak/Unyielding or Unyielding/Maniacs?

[formal umbra]

I'd go with flak maniac tbh

But that's just me

[glossy orbit]

How about Thundah Hammah

[tranquil grail]

check pinned messages if you wanna know more about each weapon on zealot

[glossy orbit]

Oke

[tranquil grail]

this was p. good
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16W_MhzUGXv9WRVjXjowIyqlktqrJ8U5wxVlgX3X5TU8/edit?tab=t.0

[glossy orbit]

I had the Zealot class guide but I think was not all finished

The one linked from Veteran guide doc

[copper hawk]

Ye

[plush estuary]

My guide is finished

[copper hawk]

Ni hao

[plush estuary]

Hallo

[glossy orbit]

Oke

The Holiest Book Zealot guide by Dorn. Work in progress.

When I saw that in the Hammer of Emperor guide

I wasn't sure if there was a Zealot one 🙂

[plush estuary]

That is discontinued

Path, Dr.vodka, and I are working on a steam guide that is way more in-depth for zealot. But that is far from done

My guide is just a quick glance to see certain info

Mainly weapon perks/stats/blessings

[plush estuary]

Mainly just vodka, so progress is slow

[grizzled aspen]

So Dorn gave up on writing a guide?

[plush estuary]

Yes

[grizzled aspen]

Lmao.

[plush estuary]

Pretty sure he is talking with vodka and helping him with the steam guide

But who knows

All dorn does is join VC mumbles something then goes smoke

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

The divorce has hit him hard ,,

No more mp soft ,, nvm

I should make a guide full of cat punz and misinformeowtion

[plush estuary]

Lol

[copper hawk]

Lol.

[plush estuary]

Catboy guide

Thy furriest book

[grizzled aspen]

Sm2 keeps crashing.

:(

[twin wagon]

sm2 still has an unfixed issue with alt tabbing

devs ain't fixing it

[void bison]

oblivion gaming!!!

[candid shuttle]

I want my death dealer raaah

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-mpreg-mpreg-monday-omori-mari-gif-6568340145174634279

[glossy orbit]

Thx Ainz :))

[winter oxide]

just met the third toxic ogryn

lvl 1.1k h40 joined a malice mission and started flaming new players

how low can you get

[sudden quarry]

not that low apparently, ogryns are like 10 feet tall

:)

[placid fiber]

Some players are literally just that stupid

[sudden quarry]

question, why was there a new player in a havoc 40 mission? i have 200 hours in the game and still can’t manage above h30, i don’t excuse the ogryn’s behaviour but a new player in havoc 40 seems intense

[placid fiber]

it was a malice mission

a level 1.1k ogryn who was havoc lvl 40 joined a malice mission just to flame new players

[grizzled aspen]

True level mod lets you see a character's real amount of levels and their highest clearance rank of havoc attained, even if they arent that rank anymore.

[hearty nebula]

darktide players can read and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself

https://tenor.com/view/iamrigbycat-gif-17122096475275233787

[sudden quarry]

i see, i thought he was in a havoc mission

didn’t know you could see the clearance level on someone

[placid fiber]

No, it was worse. They were so full of themselves they went into malice just to flame new players and ruin their experience

[grizzled aspen]

timeout over
immediately rude

[sudden quarry]

well then that ogryn is just a filthy heretic, tf was blud doing in malice spewing words

[grizzled aspen]

Only with the true level mod.

[placid fiber]

^

[sudden quarry]

jokes on you i’m a zealot main, anything that isn’t scripture i cannot read

[placid fiber]

gottem

[hearty nebula]

zealots dont read scriptures they just pretend to read them

[grizzled aspen]

Speaking of, I've had lobbies where people have claimed to clear h40, but they've had either no clearance rank (meaning they hadn't cleared an auric yet) or sub 20 clearance (malice or heresy scaling).

[sudden quarry]

the emperor tells me bedtime stories of the letitio divinitacus

[grizzled aspen]

Then that would make you a psyker, and ergo, a heretic.

Commissar, blast this heathen immediately.

[sudden quarry]

if that was true, i’d cast mend buttcrack on your ass for even implying it

instead i’ll pray for the emperor to do it instead, woe to ye

[vast basin]

maybe they cleared old havoc before the rank changes?

[grizzled aspen]

If you cleared h40 week 1 then you'd still have over 20 for your clearance.

These folks had either less than 20 or no clearance at all.

[sudden quarry]

also there’s a big difference between completing h40 once and doing it consistently, i think my max rn is 24

because i suck ass at this game

[grizzled aspen]

And yeah I'm aware that when they updated havoc, true level reset its tracking on your clearance rank.

[grizzled aspen]

Honestly it was harder before imo.

[vast basin]

depends on the modifiers

[grizzled aspen]

Before the modifiers changed, you had to mainly build around fading light instead of the actual modifiers.

[vast basin]

and the twins are a pain

[grizzled aspen]

The Rinda twin ain't that bad but holy fuck the Rodin twin is horrendous.

[sudden quarry]

honestly i’m not even bad, i can hold my own and every character is at least level 40 or more but my fps tanks to 40 in havoc

[vast basin]

especially with the insta kill bug still being around

[grizzled aspen]

I have to pop chorus every now and then just to pop his mines because my teammates are being dumb.

[vague depot]

Anyone got a good mobile alarm clock that can play custom mp3 files

[sudden quarry]

your brain, just play a music on loop until it’s seared into your brain ridges and then wake up :3

[vague depot]

I traded it for more diamantine before havoc released

Need a music app

[sudden quarry]

so real, i have barely enough diamantine

[grizzled aspen]

Nope, brain smooth, no ridges or lumps, nor wrinkles or bumps.

[sudden quarry]

all thoughts slide right off? good ogryn, here’s a medal

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-dance-kitty-cat-silly-cat-car-gif-10416976224862277025

whats POPPIN

[sudden quarry]

that cat has nothing but rage in it’s eyes

[hearty nebula]

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-blunders-gif-24186536

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-laugh-princess-bride-reactions-gif-4559258

[misty nova]

Rip

[hushed knoll]

Never get involved in a land war in Asia

[sage tusk]

Bruh where are all the good zealot builds at (i'm new and have been trying to mash something together to absolutely no avail)

[heady rapids]

there's only 1 zealot build

[copper hawk]

There's like

2 maybe 3 builds

[mild sparrow]

One build, pick your keystone

[copper hawk]

And those builds all use similar talents

The zealot guide has sample builds

[sage tusk]

what is it with Fotf that people love so much?

I ask as a completely new player (dont judge)

[copper hawk]

Increased attack speed for like 5 seconds

[placid fiber]

attack speed is 10s

[sage tusk]

but like... Book

[copper hawk]

Free tness on using

Relatively short cooldown, very fast on Invocation of Death

100% Rending, guaranteed crit, increased damage

It's our best ult

[placid fiber]

100% rending and 25% melee damage on the 1st hit, +20% attack speed for 10s, 50% toughness recovered, up to 3x distance traveled when targeting an enemy, and with invocation of death the +20% attack speed is pretty much 100% uptime

[copper hawk]

Yerp

Book has a required tax with the golden toughness talent and has another additional point tax unless you go middle (dont)

[sage tusk]

Just been getting told to commit death to myself for not using book & flamethrower

so

[placid fiber]

Are you doing havoc only?

[copper hawk]

One minute downtime, cant deal damage while doing it, can be canceled by a number of things, etc

[sage tusk]

I'm trying to, don't have homies to play with so solo it is

[copper hawk]

U can lfg in the lfg chats for people to play

Chorus relic zealot is what ppl use in havoc

[sage tusk]

been sitting in strike team 1 for a good minute

[copper hawk]

It's safer and doesnt require sharp individual player skills

[copper hawk]

It is 0700 on a Monday ,,

[placid fiber]

Chorus is used in havoc, but, it's not required like it was in season 1 of havoc(which even in season 1 people figured out how to use chastise)

[sage tusk]

2:06 pm

[copper hawk]

People are probably still at work then in your timezone

If they work normal human 9 - 5s

[rain knoll]

Relic blade isn't design for the crusher , big guy right

[copper hawk]

Relic blade does about literally everything

[placid fiber]

^

[copper hawk]

The FGS is still better though mostly due to the screenwipe

Which can clear 40 enemies

[sage tusk]

I'm just lookin for something I can solo with... Rather not be harrassed for just trying to exsist, however not even sure what weapons to use at this point.

[placid fiber]

elite? powered mode. 2 or 3 poxwalkers? powered mode. smyker near a barrel? powered mode

[sage tusk]

Regardless of what i do i just get screamed at

[rain knoll]

I find hammer is more comfortable to use for me

I struggling vs horde of crusher as relic blade

[placid fiber]

You're going to meet people who want baby chorus mode, it's innevitable. They just want baby mode to coddle them, rather than knowing what they need to do

[sage tusk]

That's fair, just not for me really. Rather just stick to my solo lobbies or LFG

which is why im tryna figure out smth i can survive and do damage with

[copper hawk]

Play in powered mode and use charge (fury of the faithful) on your light spam thrust or on your running heavy

Or on any strikedown heavy

Alternatively play the crusher against Crushers

Rashad

[placid fiber]

I get that it's frustrating. It's not something you can actively plan for 100% of the time unless you have a build you can swap between where you can have 1 build with chastise and 1 build with chorus for havoc

It's rough having to adapt, though, if you aren't used to it

[mild sparrow]

You can just take "The Build" and swap in chorus

It will depend on your weapon what keystone. This would be for a crit weapon like DS

[copper hawk]

Might want to play ogryn or veteran for a solo havoc run

[sage tusk]

I have an infantry lasgun & combat blade that relies on crits

[placid fiber]

Uh... I am not sure if infantry lasgun even works in havoc(especially for zealot)... but with a single target melee weapon the flamer is generally advised for the omega hitmass hordes n stuff

[sage tusk]

what blessings then? rn i'm using Blaze away and quickflame

[placid fiber]

blaze away + overpressure

At least I think that's what it would be, since that provides the most damage

[placid fiber]

Your flamer is damage(/mobility) dumped right?

[sage tusk]

mobility yeah

[placid fiber]

generally damage is dumped since it adds roughly 1 effective dps between 60% and 80%

[sage tusk]

welp, didn't know that

[placid fiber]

since the flamer gets all of its damage from burn

[placid fiber]

Yeah, it's I think the only weapon that dumps damage in the meta

[sage tusk]

Uncanny & Riposte on knife yes?

[placid fiber]

I'm honestly not sure what you would use for havoc on it, but, I would guess uncanny + precog/riposte

since that's your armor damage weapon

[sage tusk]

alrighty, time to see how this holds up in Auric Damnation then. (hopefully i can go through 10 missions without dying)

[placid fiber]

tknives are so good with the flamer since you can snipe specials

[mild sparrow]

Just don't get barrelled, EZ

[sage tusk]

dunno what that means but ok

[mild sparrow]

When you get blown off a platform by a barrel

[placid fiber]

^

[sage tusk]

ah

[placid fiber]

the killer of both noobs and pros alike

[sage tusk]

so what counts as dying

[hearty nebula]

dying

[placid fiber]

^

[hearty nebula]

[placid fiber]

your hp reaching 0 and you not getting downed

[sage tusk]

like... being rescued

or

[hearty nebula]

no

dying

[sage tusk]

ah

welp

[hearty nebula]

define "rescue"

[placid fiber]

rescued means untied

[hearty nebula]

from

[sage tusk]

like, going down and then having to be rescued afterwards

[hearty nebula]

going down isn't a death

[placid fiber]

That means you would have had to die, getting picked up is not death

[hearty nebula]

dying is death

[placid fiber]

you not getting picked up in time or you having only 1 wound left uncorrupted and reaching 0 with hp

[mild sparrow]

If your full team wipes while you're downed but you don't actually die. You keep your streak

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/728174260878704643/1178364672756437022/salvatory_ogryn.gif

This is dying

[mild sparrow]

So just be last alive

[placid fiber]

kinda sounds untintended, but, I find that funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1334710158525202443/99vpAu6.gif

^ This is also death @sage tusk

Just not for the person watching

[sage tusk]

welp, that went well.

[copper hawk]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DFIfa0MNasC/?igsh=MmVzdW9hMmcyd2Yw

[acoustic dune]

Flint n steel

[copper hawk]

Peak.

[jagged cradle]

I couldn’t say that

But it is well drawn unfortunately

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-gemmy-soy-soyjak-pleb-gif-4375573638343262771

It’s peak

[acoustic dune]

ill flint n steel you

Your arse is creeper

[solar gorge]

the wise old monk

[tranquil owl]

Benjamin Button

[hushed knoll]

Hi lambda

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[sudden quarry]

recently saw a veteran triple my level that didn’t know that sliding avoids gunfire. bro has probably 600-700 hours in the game and doesn’t know he has legs, this game is hilarious

[acoustic dune]

me when i play recon vet

(fuck sprinting)

[sudden quarry]

dude faced like 20 shotgunners and accepted his fate, i was so confused as to how in the fuck a lvl150 veteran would do that that i actually asked if he knew sliding was a thing

he ragequit without answering, my confusion remains forevermore

[clever swan]

tbf level 150 isn't very high, especially if it's his only character

[sudden quarry]

bro i learned how to slide like 10 hours in with only a lvl 30 zealot and nothing else, not trying to be overly toxic but he has no excuses lmao

[sullen forge]

Ancient wise old Tibetan monk that meditates alone on top of the mountain peak

[frosty herald]

dont ever play ||beach volleyball|| in clair obscure

i almost crashed out so fucking hard

[sullen forge]

What

[analog ember]

Sounds like he took it like a man

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1364490188935528468/wolpspin.gif

[violet hornet]

Wolp

[plush estuary]

sonar wolps

solps

soaps

[empty python]

I'm testing in Havoc 40 true solo sandbox, and I found out that shock maul MkIa got some pretty funky and neat effects with its push attack + overhead light combo, it has a lot of stagger force and it also leaves the crusher just...stunned and confused/"blind" for a few seconds.

You do need Hammerblow and lots of stagger to be able to do this to Crusher in H40 tho.

[hard nexus]

SOOAAAAAPP

[empty python]

staggering them with other attacks doesnt work the same

[hard nexus]

hammerblow extends stagger duration

it’s weird

i didn’t know about it until path told me

but it makes enemies just

stand there

for a second

[empty python]

I know there are levels of stagger, but this is different, he's not even staggered, he's just..."become blinded", confused

I staggered crusher with normal heavy attacks in there too

not the same as this xD

[hard nexus]

there’s different stagger levels, and there’s different stagger durations

hammerblow increases your raw stagger, but also increases stagger duration, so enemies that are staggered will just stand there for a moment

after getting up

[hard nexus]

my guess is the uppercut light combos meets some unique combined stagger BP

though i couldn’t really say for sure

it is weird though

[violet hornet]

How large of a pickle is too large?

[empty python]

yeah, but I'm not too sure bro is just supposed to just stand there like how they are in Simulacrum yknow xD, he only flinched around with the combo, didnt even fall over or anything

but hey, I aint complaining

[mighty root]

Marty user detected

[hard nexus]

that’s standard with hammerblow

try it on poxwalkers

they do the same thing

[mighty root]

Spray paint him silver

[hard nexus]

MEDIOOCCREEEE

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-spray-paint-bug-eye-man-gif-21526624

[empty python]

xD

the build was actually resetted for some reason, but i was testing it for something

wasnt the build I was going for

was doing IJudgement

[empty python]

man this has to be something to do with shock maul, cuz I tried with other melees like thunderhammer with hammerblow and all the stagger perk nodes in the skill tree, they get staggered but recover immediately, compared to the shock maul.

Either that or crusher getting staggered by shock maul (not from shock) don't display the correct animation xD

[long oasis]

Ive watched this like 5 times and I still have no clue whats happening

[solar gorge]

stanislas

[jagged cradle]

What would you rather spray paint him with

[hard nexus]

hrm

@sterile basalt

hammerblow extends stagger duration right

[violet hornet]

Butter flavored cooking spray

[sullen forge]

In regards to stagger on Shaul I’m pretty sure Falter gives more value

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-gif-24644397

[empty python]

but I mean look at this lol. I tested shock maul MkIa with hammerblow vs Thunderhammer with hammerblow, it's night and day.

Shock Maul Ia with hamemrblow:

Thunderhammer with hammerblow:

the stagger recovery difference is...well, apparent

if you're talking about whether hammerblow affects how hard the enemy gets staggered/flinched (which absically equates to stagger duration), then yes, I agree, but in the case of the shock maul, that's sth else I'm pretty sure

[heady rapids]

https://vxtwitter.com/BasedRPG/status/1916875045038653533

RPG Enjoyer 🐉 (@[e-mail])

What. The. Fuck.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 28, 2025, 3:19 PM

[sullen forge]

I’d say seeing you’re testing those out as well you may as well try Falter as well

[misty nova]

Trauma

[empty python]

yknow what, if I put both trauma and hammerblow I might just be able to just keep crushers staggered and stunned like I did in the video 24/7 lol

[misty nova]

[misty nova]

Crusher becomes a stagger stick
It's quite funny

[light badge]

In a team with one of each class in havoc, how do I justify bringing something other than bubble to true survivors? (note, using true survivor as a slur)

[empty python]

i'm using hammerblow here with shock maul and it's already doing what it's doing in the video i posted, curious if trauma will be any difference to that, tho testing it on thunderhammer would be more apparent

[obsidian prairie]

Deciding to have fun for a change

[clever swan]

refer to prior successes

[empty python]

honestly I tried falter in simulacrum, I have no idea what it even does cuz from what I've seen it doesnt stagger as well as hammerblow xD

[light badge]

That's the problem

[clever swan]

then maybe they're right to be discriminatory

[light badge]

My success doesn't matter, it's that the team needs the bubble to crutch on

[sullen forge]

I’ll pull it up one moment

[clever swan]

I see...

[long oasis]

tell them to fuck off

if theyre dome crutching then theyre doing something wrong

[light badge]

Like, I was playing taxe Scrier's

[misty nova]

"gotta kill things faster"

[light badge]

Double their damage

[sterile basalt]

no, trauma does but it resets on hitting another enemy

[light badge]

We lose because they got magistrati filtered with double boss spawn

[sterile basalt]

hammerblow is better

[light badge]

Then they ALL bitch that "erm psyker we need bubble"

[empty python]

oh wait, shock maul doesnt have trauma, lol, gotta test on thunderhammer ig

[light badge]

Should note, I was doubling their damage on tac axe

Doubling the damage of a relic blade and plasma

[mighty root]

Someone do crit dclaw on zealot in havoc 40 testing

[light badge]

Switched to bubble and FGS, we won, they ended up with ~600k damage each while I had 120k

[sullen forge]

Shaul is a rare melee with Falter

[light badge]

Literally not even a thank you

I am beginning to see the Vance pill

[empty python]

yeah I know about the blessing, I tested it, literally just doesnt do anything afaik

[sullen forge]

Might just be crushers then

[empty python]

very weird

[sterile basalt]

only mk1a can stagger crusher

[empty python]

muight as well take hammerblow

[sullen forge]

Hammerblow probably stacks up enough to actually stagger them

[sterile basalt]

falter is better than hammerblow for mk3 shock maul

because exact same stagger breakpoints but doesn't require stacking to reach

[light badge]

So I guess the question is how do I carry harder without having to resort to dome crutch?

[empty python]

interesting that, I gotta test it later then

[light badge]

Like it's not even for my benefit atp, I just want my teammates to not have to crutch

[sterile basalt]

taunt borovian ogryn

[sullen forge]

Boro propaganda

I will let this slide

[sterile basalt]

22s for 60k unyielding

not bad

[empty python]

I'm gonna test trauma vs hammerblow on thunderhammer to see if it makes any difference

[obsidian prairie]

Why

[sterile basalt]

not meaningful because u just need grievous wounds for thunder hammer stagger breakpoint

which u should have

because otherwise u directly sacrifice dps for staggering ragers

[light badge]

To clarify, *on psyker

[sterile basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[empty python]

not at all, I've pretty played almsot ONLY thunderhammer in Havoc 40, and I dont even have grievous wound or hammer of faith, only hammerblow + thrust on my thunderhamemr and I'm able to knock ragers even when they're attacking in Havoc 40. It only just guranteed stagger crushers with heavy attacks

eeven without full thrust

and without hittng head even

[empty python]

of course, Final Toll is a different matter lol

[sterile basalt]

yea, should take headtaker over hammerblow

[empty python]

I'd say Hammerblow makes a HECK of a difference in Havoc 40, it can knock Liutenants dead on their ass as well

[sterile basalt]

grievous wounds is 1 point off from most thunder hammer builds

u do not need to drop dps for hammerblow on thunder hammer

[empty python]

I got like a dozen hammers with different set ups, headtaker is nice, but the stagger breakpoint just isnt as reliable

plus, the breakpoints for TH in H40 isnt too bad that I need headtaker really

I've done the maths

[sterile basalt]

might as well take headtaker over thrust at that point

[mighty root]

[violet hornet]

Inspire your allies by exploding right in front of them while fighting four poxwalkers

[mighty root]

This is silly

[sterile basalt]

also, thunder hammer might be the most borked weapon for havoc in breakpoints

unironically

[empty python]

I do also have a THunderhammer with hammerblow and headtaker lol

[sterile basalt]

it's like 2.6k empowered light

just not enough to empower light 2 tap crusher

[light badge]

I unironically don't think I can do that before the 4 poxwalkers die lol

[sterile basalt]

200 dmg off

and empowered heavy is not high enough to kill crusher in 1 hit without severe dmg juicing

[empty python]

I play a lot FURY with Thunderhammer, and Thunder Hammer with Thrust is insanely nice in Havoc 40, ESPECIALLY when there's Encroaching Garden, having that guaranteed one-shot on garden'd up Crusher from fury that even Dueling sword can do is amazing.

I dont even need to go full stacks thrust to one-shot crusher even

[sterile basalt]

garden doesn't make purple enemies heal

[empty python]

it doesn't, but I'm talking about killing the crushers that are getting healed by OTHER garden enemies

cuz they heal FAST

I got like a bunch of videos recorded of my H40 matches with my zealot thunderhammer, Hammerblow on TH has saved my ass a BUNCH of times against rushing ragers and multiple crushers before, it's value

of coruse, when there's final toll, I do change it up

the build I play a lot with in H40, I thought I needed those impact perk nodes before but turned out, not really

bonking

[obsidian prairie]

Quite sincerely

What the fuck

[long oasis]

what happened with that trapper dodge

slide?

[empty python]

yes

[empty python]

don't knock it until you try it, there's more to it than just chorus and duelign swords and flamer lol xD

I got like a bunch of Ws with it

[obsidian prairie]

I’m fine with thammer in havoc and I fucking hate dueling sword

But that is insanely cursed

SoC over fucking Duelist????

And piety thammer

[empty python]

tbh, I'm not entirely sure if SoC is doing anything meaningful but I do have some builds with duelist

[obsidian prairie]

Then drop it

Not sure if it works versus duelist is a pretty clear decision to me

[hard nexus]

ohhhgg

i had them mixed up

[sterile basalt]

This is cursed in many levels

[hard nexus]

my bad

[empty python]

dude, Piety hammer isnt even bad lmao, especially with Scourge xD, and tbh I mostly take piety for the CD reduction obviously. Invocation of Death

[obsidian prairie]

Thammer has a 1.3 finesse mod

It’s only purpose here is IoD

[empty python]

yeah that's mostly it

[obsidian prairie]

Also, no second wind

Guh

[sterile basalt]

Too bad IoD is the first/second most overpowered CDR talent in the game

[empty python]

AH I'd love to have it, but it's tight so eh, not too needed, I only need like 1-2 crits every once in a while to trigger IoD for my ability anyway

[obsidian prairie]

You drop SoC and then grab duelist and second wind

Shrimple as

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[empty python]

I'll probably do that

[obsidian prairie]

It’ll help make that build less unrecoverably cursed

[empty python]

but I'm just saying, results speak for themselves yknow

[obsidian prairie]

Doesn’t stop me from hating it

[empty python]

I was practically handling all the bosses and crushers

[long oasis]

imagine a world where zealot middle tree is actually competitive with the other trees

[clever swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/608084680188624906/1366423387668221982/AQMtE0AUprPiQngJYMaX3wfUigi3_iUzuAwq6LdE-X5J9mh_5FDYNrynoxyCacZH-wxhfi0lwOWV9NppnZMgnFgg-NKTFMJfS9pMZpY.mp4?ex=6810e472&is=680f92f2&hm=20de63ac74e858a016c5e7305582d4df9be861517a6f5c0836d02d55280f0eb2&

[velvet veldt]

Just returning to the game after quite a while - I see we are using the relic sword, is there a second mode to the sword or an alternate mode? Read sth. about "activating" it in the pins (and the fact we use a blessing that gives -heat looked confusing)

[obsidian prairie]

And you have most damage taken in every case

[storm pagoda]

its a good build the main threat pretty much is bosses for havoc

[empty python]

i'm just so sick of playing chorus lol, and hell Chorus, with 30%+ dmg, with TH full thrust + Ogryn 10% melee dmg aura, can one-shot crushers too lol

[obsidian prairie]

It’s not the not running chorus I hate

It’s just how generally cursed it is as a build

I would consider that weird in any difficulty

[empty python]

well someone gotta front line lol xD

plus being in gas bombs almost all the times do do that xD

[obsidian prairie]

I won’t deny that it works but it just hurts to look at

[empty python]

haha

yeah I've tinkered a lot

found what worked and what didn't

tis all really, guess it's not the most typical builds ever fs

also, does Shield of Contempt apply on your allies too?

I cant really tell

[sullen forge]

SprinKah and their build:

It’s actually hilarious it’s doing numbers

[empty python]

for realsies tho

you wont see that many THs that's for sure

[sterile basalt]

TH is borked in breakpoints for havoc

and zealot tree is defunct

[empty python]

TH's special is either always thrust heavy attack or nothing honestly

[sterile basalt]

nah

empowered light is good

[empty python]

well ok, I DO use it

but not for threats like crushers and bosses obviously

it works with fury

[long oasis]

do the lights hit any breakpoints for specials?

[sterile basalt]

empowered light is better than empowered heavy vs multiple crushers

[pale spindle]

1.1k damage taken as a Zealot

💀

[sterile basalt]

it's just fked in breakpoints for havoc

[empty python]

I didn't die at all tho in most games I'll tell ya that

[pale spindle]

Until death cope is real 💀

[sterile basalt]

and TH itself doesn't do enough stagger so it needs extra spec into stagger (blessing/talent) to reach core stagger breakpoints

it's just fked as a weapon

[empty python]

I do have some games recorded so, I do very rarely trigger it xD

[sterile basalt]

stagger blessings should not exist to push baseline stagger breakpoints
the weapon itself should be able to stagger these elite enemies, then blessings elevate stagger stage to medium/heavy

[empty python]

well, most of my games

[pale spindle]

Wait why do you take scourge, the crit node but no duelist? 💀

[empty python]

I kinda wanted Enduring Faith, it's nice when you fury in

also scourge, more crits so why not, meh

and like I said above, I'll considering duelist and such, it's not bad at all

[pale spindle]

Duelist is probably the best talents in the entire tree

And you took impact over it

[empty python]

but i guess I've been stuck with SoC

impact?

[pale spindle]

Nah this has to be bait

I'm not falling for it

[formal umbra]

piety or momentum for tac axe? ive been running piety but I want opinions

[empty python]

bruh i guess I gotta upload my games to YT and send it to you or sth

this is the kinda shit no one believes you until you got proof lol

[obsidian prairie]

I run piety for unga bunga IoD/ED uptime but tac axe can run with all keystones

[formal umbra]

yeah, thats what I was thinking too

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-video-game-fishing-minigame-stellar-blade-eve-gif-144658803614256506

[obsidian prairie]

Go stalwart though

[formal umbra]

id run it with martyrdom but I dont want carpal tunnel

[obsidian prairie]

You have 12% innate crit from crit bonus stat so you can take stalwart for extra TDR

[obsidian prairie]

The carpal tunnel is propaganda spread by combat axe users

[pale spindle]

I never said anything about it not working

You can run a solo 40 with all greys and 0 nodes, that doesn't mean anything.

[obsidian prairie]

The hordeclear combo is pa heavy

[empty python]

well alright then xD

[formal umbra]

I looooove the hordeclear combo its what made me fall in love with the taxe

[empty python]

I can see why u think it's bait but...yeah

[pale spindle]

I think TACAXE really like attack speed, but the extra crits just start to hit hard spikes with Fury

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah it has super safe clear

[long oasis]

be the sigma and run decimator slaughter spree

[pale spindle]

Because someone unintentionally telling me they need impact over free damage sounds like a troll I'm not going to lie

[long oasis]

to establish dominance

[sullen forge]

The all or nothing build

[pale spindle]

Max impact build

[obsidian prairie]

I nearly forgot about that

[sullen forge]

Tbf I forgot deadshot even existed till it got brought up last night lmao

[pale spindle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ce25c43-a636-4463-b1bc-dfab68cf8a66/max-impact?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[obsidian prairie]

I don’t think forgetting about a dumbass semi effective meme build from when Dorn was still around is the same as forgetting about Deadshot

[sullen forge]

All or Nothing players

Truly peak Darktide

[empty python]

nah I love Duelist, I do have a few builds that go full Desperation too with 28defense THs xD, I guess this is just one of the builds I got that have SoC with no duelist path xD

plus, I'm not entirely sure if SoC applies to allies too, never quite looked into it lol

[stone fern]

if you're bringing thammer into havoc you kinda have one job

not taking duelist is a big dps loss for bosses

[empty python]

i mean

true

I do go all the way to desperation too

in some builds I got, with low def THs

[formal umbra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ec9294a-9746-4a3f-b6f9-f5535c023fbd/zealot-wip-2 k heres what ive got going so far

[hard nexus]

holy abysmal dogshit

[misty nova]

You press the button for special
It goes zap
Then you go swiish swiish swiish swiish then it overheats and goes pfffff then you let it cool down
Or you deactivate without it overheating and let it cool down

It's also good unpowered

[pale spindle]

Meow don't go in swinging like that 😭

[empty python]

that's it, I'm uploading those videos

[pale spindle]

I mean just looking at the scoreboard I can already tell how u did

[empty python]

but some nodes do need to be changed out, like SoC I do think

[sullen forge]

Again refer to the image

[clever swan]

dont you realize that this image is literally encouraging people not to stand out

[acoustic dune]

ey lamba

got any new stan quote?

[long oasis]

drop the 5% melee node for good balance

[solar gorge]

no

[sullen forge]

Uhuh?

[acoustic dune]

post an fav one then

[sullen forge]

99% of zealots are using “The Build” anyways lmao

[pale spindle]

Reverse Psychology 😈

[formal umbra]

ty

[empty python]

thank god for H40 not risking derank which makes me not so anxious in being experimental xD

[clever swan]

just funny to see someone post an image that basically says "we should all think the same"

[long oasis]

zealot hivemind in action

[misty nova]

Nah I'm different

[clever swan]

and it's only really posted after or because the entire chat is like "hehehehe bad build shit build abysmal DOG SHIT AHHHHHH"

[pale spindle]

I mean this is Zealot chat

We all know exactly why we are all here 😏

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[long oasis]

what if Im here for the ferrets

but there are no more ferrets

[pale spindle]

That's everyone

[clever swan]

we are here to celebrate mpreg monday

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-angry-gif-23442156

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1362633648393814110/GIF_20250417_223901_897.gif

[long oasis]

no

[clever swan]

🤰🏻

i understand. we will wait until wpreg wednesday

[long oasis]

[median steeple]

Holy shit this unearthed some memories