#zealot-class

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acoustic dune
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Freak priest

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I did not appoint myself of temporal ferret pope

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Fr fr

frosty herald
median steeple
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Absolute batman is an insane person

bitter anvil
median steeple
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That's me loading up new Vegas making another energy weapons build and joining the brotherhood

tawny harbor
turbid tulip
modern lintel
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i always played skyrim as 2h kill everything nord/ orc or sneaky bow elf only deviated once to have a destruction magic dark elf

stable bridge
copper hawk
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Dunmer

tawny harbor
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dumb nerd

wooden dove
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Why does it remove the moustache?

mild sparrow
grave cypress
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oops i loved the set

bitter anvil
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bald

cunning path
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My Zealot’s a Purifier subclass who uses the Spearhead Boltgun and the Heavy Eviscerator

candid shuttle
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OHOHOHOOH

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ITS TIME

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83% CRIT CHANCE MORTIS BOLTER

mint brook
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Also

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Not done yet

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But this is what i got so far for the right side

bitter anvil
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are you challenging Ainz?

mint brook
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Ainz?

bitter anvil
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zealot made the guide first almost done

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probably there's other legacy guide in this server

mint brook
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Nah i am working on a tree rework

bitter anvil
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hmmm

candid shuttle
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HOLY SHIT

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DEATH DEALER BOLTER

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AMBOUTABOLT

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MAGDUMPING BOSSES IS SO SATISFYING

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85 CRIT CHANCE WITH CAVALCADE

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AND THE 30% ON 25% CLIP

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AND PIETY

modern lintel
bitter anvil
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yeah

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you got

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heavy bolter

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except doesn't have the high rof

candid shuttle
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Pretty sure the HB in Boltgun has that rof

modern lintel
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i dont ever see anyone run it but assail specifically also has some fairly decent buffs for mortis aswell

bitter anvil
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I didn't play mortis that much

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trying get hang first in uprising

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then try carrying my friend in uprising through wave 12

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pysker underlevel

candid shuttle
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I love the shredder in Mortis too

modern lintel
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one of them was for every enemy hit you regain an assail charge back pair w scriers nearly 100% assail uptime

candid shuttle
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Shredder on Death Dealer can fire insanely long with cavalcade and 30% on 25% clip

cunning path
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What do y’all think about the Heavy Eviscerator?

bitter anvil
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is okay and nice

candid shuttle
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And with the flame path

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+2 burn stacks on ranged hit

bitter anvil
candid shuttle
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Grenade that doubles fire damage

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Shreds bosses

cunning path
candid shuttle
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Mortis Bolter is effectively our heavy bolter

copper hawk
bitter anvil
copper hawk
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Takes a lot of skill to use at high levels

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One of the last of the jankiest weapons in the game

cunning path
copper hawk
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If u like what the evis does use the relic blade

modern lintel
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ogryn has really really dumb death dealer potential with duel link stubber if you get the right combos once it hits like round 6 you can literally hold the trigger down and potentially not run out of ammo till the end of the game

candid shuttle
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Isn't it capped to only hit 4 people at a time

copper hawk
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Or use a hs9 w dblow and hyer

copper hawk
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On the xv that's your horde clear

bitter anvil
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that one cooldown on every lucky bullet

copper hawk
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You can only damage 4 enemies w ur horde clear attacks w a horde clear weapon

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Abysmal frogshit

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The 3 is even worse

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If u want 2 use an evis then use the xv

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Dont bother w the 3

modern lintel
solar gorge
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it's the optimal malice weapon

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you can damage the whole 4 enemies who make up a horde

copper hawk
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Lol yeah

bitter anvil
copper hawk
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Balancing for malice

modern lintel
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chainaxe and evis fighting for top dog shit chainweapon award

twin wagon
bitter anvil
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sound like gear war stuff

copper hawk
sacred jay
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Is thunder hammer & flamer combo actually how practical

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Keep seeing so many zealots running that mix

placid fiber
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thammer covers single target, flamer covers hordes/elite groups

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Though you probably should only use the flamer for dense hordes, otherwise you'll run out of ammo really quickly

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with the flamer you want tknives though, for an option with more range

tawny harbor
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thunder hammer works a lot like the great hammer in vt2
it can handle hordes, it just doesn't have great ttk

placid fiber
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Exactly ^

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It can handle hordes, but, flamer can melt super dense hordes

sacred jay
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Guess im bit too used to catachan knife flamer combo with shroudfield

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Im not used to running both flamer and thammer at same time

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It feels bit excessive

placid fiber
placid fiber
tawny harbor
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My advice is, don't get used to any one weapon. Use the ones you think are dogshit as well, maybe at a lower difficulty at first. If you're running nothing but your best build stuff can get boring real quick.

sacred jay
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I usually run infantry autoguns with thammer

placid fiber
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Some weapons require a certain loadout to be effective

sacred jay
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Or shredder

placid fiber
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bolt pistol and laspistol both work as well for something with mobilty and special killing capabilities

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this also depends on if we're talking havoc or not

sacred jay
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Also ive never run the shroud or chorus with thammer

placid fiber
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since a lot of weapons fall off hard in havoc

sacred jay
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I should try

placid fiber
sacred jay
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Yeh

placid fiber
sacred jay
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Chastise been pretty much auto-choice

placid fiber
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twas a damnation plague ogryn tho

sacred jay
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But i do now itch to try chorus thammer with flamer

placid fiber
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chorus with the thammer just is meh

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The only reason shroudfield really can work is because of boss 1 shot memes

sacred jay
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But it sucks in other use cases

placid fiber
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I mean if it's built right it can still 1 shot ogryn elites

sacred jay
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I do like my "support" builds

tawny harbor
modern lintel
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the only weapons i take with chorus are knife crusher relic and obv dueling sword cause they can all work under their own weight with out having to be juiced by chastise or back stab stealth

placid fiber
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unironically, outside of havoc, the zealot's best "support" tool is killing the enemies.

sacred jay
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Indeed

tawny harbor
sacred jay
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I dont play havoc tho. Cant find any groups. I have used shotties for some time now

placid fiber
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but if you're going to run chorus I would definitinely suggest something besides the thammer

sacred jay
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I use pretty much anything besides dueling swords

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Chainswords, evicerators, shock mauls

placid fiber
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If you use chastise every single weapon (besides the mk1 dclaw) is viable. The mk1 dclaw isn't viable because of how ass its moveset is

sacred jay
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Yeah

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Mk4 dclaw beloved

modern lintel
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i like the mk7 i think it is

sacred jay
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Mk7s fine too

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Also combat axes

placid fiber
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rashad is the go to

sacred jay
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I like antax

placid fiber
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achlys sucks

modern lintel
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comabat axes can also work w chrous

placid fiber
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antax is just rashad but with cleave targets

tawny harbor
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devil's claws are my least favorite weapon
I don't get why anyone would use it, it has worse performance than every other weapon, and I don't need the parry because I can do timed blocks just fine

modern lintel
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flavor

tame sluice
placid fiber
# sacred jay I like antax

rashad attacks faster with 80% in all but mobility, because of the finesse stat... and has better weakspot and crit damage because of the finesse stat

sacred jay
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Only weapons i never use on zealot is the burstfire autoguns

placid fiber
modern lintel
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i do like the antaxs push attack more then rashad i will say

placid fiber
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antax technically has a better push attack, but, it can still only damage 3 enemies

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whereas a bromentum light 3 can kill 4 horde enemies iirc

placid fiber
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the vigilant autoguns

sacred jay
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I hate locked burst fires

tawny harbor
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Oh yeah the vigilant autogun. That's another weapon that I just can't wrap my head around. The rejects should just break them down and build a moonshine still out of the parts.

placid fiber
sacred jay
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Only game where i liked burstfire was dirty bomb

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They waste so much ammo

placid fiber
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it's still kinda mid tho

sacred jay
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I much rather run lasguns on zealot

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Then i can larp some guard preacher at least

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And right side keystone helps them to perform a little

tawny harbor
placid fiber
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iirc t4 can opener caps the brittleness stacks on its special attack

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that or it's half to cap

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I can check

tawny harbor
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Brittleness caps at 16 stacks, which is indeed what the tier 4 blessing does.

mint brook
mint brook
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Here is a rework to shroudfield

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And no

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Stealth stays

grizzled aspen
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🤢 🤮

mint brook
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Coodlown nerfed from 30 to 45
Movement speed on stealth moved.
Remember that cd nodes are nerfed to all be ability cooldown regen.

grizzled aspen
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Moving through enemies is a bad idea.

mint brook
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How so?

grizzled aspen
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Getting stuck inside of ogryns is already common enough.

mint brook
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Thats a thing?

grizzled aspen
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Yeah, ogryns lock onto your teammates and will walk through you, then retarget you while they are inside your hitbox and get you stuck.

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Happens all the time.

cunning path
# copper hawk So yah

If the Eviscerator had 100 supporters, then I’m one of them.

If the Eviscerator had 10 supporters, then I’m one of them.

If the Eviscerator had 1 supporter, then I’m that supporter.

If the Eviscerator had no supporters, then I’m dead.

No matter what, I will always support the Eviscerator.

placid fiber
mint brook
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Eviscerator needs to eviscerate more

mint brook
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Like i yet have to see it, not saying it doesnt happen, but that sounds avoidable

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Like very

grizzled aspen
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There is literally nothing you can do about it.

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The only thing that might save you is if you have chorus ready or you're using a crusher/hammer and you manage to stagger the ogryn out of your hitbox.

mint brook
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Can you please show it to me? I am really not entirely sure how bad that is, as said, i barely , if at all, notice it

grizzled aspen
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Or if a teammate saves you.

grizzled aspen
cunning path
mint brook
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Also, if that is annissue, i think we shouldnt be robbed of the kove through units idea

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Thats is on fatshark to fix

grizzled aspen
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That is not on fatshark to "fix."

placid fiber
grizzled aspen
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They didn't design the game in a way that you should be able to move through enemies.

mint brook
grizzled aspen
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Read the comment literally right after what I said.

mint brook
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Then why does darktide have it peepo_shrug

grizzled aspen
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Vermintide is designed that way.

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There are base careers that have existed since launch that involve moving through enemies.

mint brook
grizzled aspen
frosty herald
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yuppers

misty nova
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Evis3 is trash

mint brook
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Cause it is hard to imagine getting stuck inside an enemy is intentional design, thus a bug, thus needs to be fixed

grizzled aspen
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Darktide is designed around moving away from your enemies, kiting them, and using your speed and map knowledge to keep from getting surrounded.

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Vt2 is designed around killing things faster than they stack up so you dont have to use your less than ideal movement capabilities to survive.

placid fiber
# cunning path Nuh uh

Unles you have experience on what is good and isn't, this statement means nothing beyond it being a personal feeling >.>

mint brook
cunning path
placid fiber
mint brook
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Also, the eviscerator i feel like needs its special reworked

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It feels way too basic

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Irs just big chainsword

placid fiber
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mk15 is just executioner sword with a chain

mint brook
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Meanwhile power sword vs relic blade is a big difference

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But chainsword vs eviscerator both just have the same active

cunning path
mint brook
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Like i get it

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Eviscerator i cool

placid fiber
mint brook
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But it has been completely eclipsed by the relic blade

placid fiber
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Just don't expect coddling on your preference. x.x

mint brook
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Imo, it would be cool if the critical damage was increased

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To make it work more with zealots general critical tendencies

placid fiber
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It would be cool if you could keep revving the target while dodging(specifically the eviscerator)

mint brook
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And rework the damn special

placid fiber
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do all the saw damage in 1 hit?

mint brook
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Blessing that staggers enemies around you after it finishes

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Or base feature

placid fiber
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Eh

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I could see use, but, idk how it would hold up with the current blessings

mint brook
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In general, i want the cleave to be good, i want it to be the mirror image of the relic blade

heady rapids
mint brook
heady rapids
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you're interrupting it mid anim for a reason

mint brook
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I just want eviscerator to go more with the chainsword

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Where it is a great crit weapon

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And its specials feel way more visceral and powerul

placid fiber
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powerul

mint brook
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Would be nice wouldnt it

heady rapids
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since when is there a new event

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huh

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time to play dakritde

placid fiber
heady rapids
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fatfish shadowdropping stuff for the millionth time

mint brook
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Oh ffs

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I didnt notice the typi

placid fiber
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I was just giving you a hard time

mint brook
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All good

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Btw what is the event reward?

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Also @placid fiber

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What do you think of this 🤔

placid fiber
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I saw it earlier

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I was not sure what to think about it so I said nothing

mint brook
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Big question is, it it interesting

placid fiber
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It looks... kind of like a nerf to shroudfield

mint brook
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Oh?

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How so?

placid fiber
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Alexa play the clip

mint brook
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Ah

placid fiber
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the after effects are interesting, but, perfectionist is a straight up nerf

mint brook
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How? Confused

placid fiber
grizzled aspen
mint brook
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Ah fuck wait

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I forgor shroudfield has an ability with that name

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I know the buff

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But i genuinely forgot that it was called that

mint brook
placid fiber
twin wagon
mint brook
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I now added the 50% to the basekit

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Is that fine?

twin wagon
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Sedation clip (modified to look like damn)

placid fiber
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As if I had anywhere close to that much editing skill

mint brook
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There

placid fiber
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Idk

mint brook
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Old perfectionist is now base

twin wagon
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🤔

mint brook
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Also

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I made a change to fury to be less boring

placid fiber
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I know you nerfed it

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by removing the attack speed <.<

mint brook
placid fiber
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oh you put it back in

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Nice

mint brook
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👍

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Attack speed is fun

placid fiber
# mint brook

@grizzled aspen What do you think about that bottom one?

mint brook
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The bottom one is meant to make high damage weapons like thammer hit much harder

twin wagon
placid fiber
mint brook
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So you guys like it? :p

placid fiber
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Looks interesting at least

mint brook
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Btw the tree changes a teency bit

twin wagon
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I don't play zealot enough to have a profesional shouty opinion
I do like the concept for sure

mint brook
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For overall better pathing

placid fiber
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as a zealot main I can tell you that looks interesting

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Idk how good it would be, but, it looks interesting

mint brook
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Oops

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Wrong one

placid fiber
twin wagon
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I'd like to remind everyone berserk 3d exists

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there's worse things than the veteran talent tree

grizzled aspen
placid fiber
grizzled aspen
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The main draw of chastise is 100% rending on your first melee of the duration.

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That "rework" gets rid of that.

placid fiber
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@mint brook You removed the 100% rending on chastise? Don't do dat

placid fiber
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Funny how he dissipeared

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as soon as we noticed that

placid fiber
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the rending was to replace the armor downgrade

mint brook
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Why isnt it noted?

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Like if it has rending

placid fiber
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Fatshark

mint brook
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Is the rending on melee only?

placid fiber
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Yes

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to the 1st hit only

mint brook
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aight

placid fiber
mint brook
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Fixed

placid fiber
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fatshark 101: Never put everything in the description

winter oxide
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is the combat blade a good weapon?

twin wagon
placid fiber
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It was the zealot's most op weapon before the dueling sword got added

mint brook
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Had to fix a few things

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But this tree should be complete

winter oxide
placid fiber
placid fiber
heady rapids
placid fiber
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^

winter oxide
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oh how do i use it in havoc

heady rapids
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not really enjoyable there

mint brook
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Also, chorus is like ogryns middle skill, meaning no longer mandatory

placid fiber
winter oxide
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💀

placid fiber
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by breaking every spawn

heady roost
placid fiber
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the boxes are really scary for sure

mint brook
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Yeah the boxes really annoy me

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Apologies for that 😦

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Intryed a few times to get rid of those fucking buggers

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Surely a trick played on me by the dark mechanicum

long cosmos
placid fiber
mint brook
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Lmfao

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Yeah i do the icon once all the skills are done

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Also

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Loner will now always count as 4 people in coherency for everyone

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I wanted to keep it relatively the same without it being griefing

placid fiber
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so even with 2 people in the coherency everyone gets full coherency regen? >.>

mint brook
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Yup

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Caviat

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As long as YOU arent in their coherency

placid fiber
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<.<

acoustic dune
long cosmos
mint brook
acoustic dune
mint brook
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That was and will be my nr 1 priority with stealth perks

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“How can i make the stealth user prioritize using it to fight back rather than get getting to the ending of the map.

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Infiltrate has for that reason a massive target on its back

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It is shroudfield but 10 times more egregious

long cosmos
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probably my favorite tool to revive

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more flexible in application then the shout imo

mint brook
mint brook
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Omgg

mint brook
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I found out what caused the squares

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Here

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Without all the fugly squares

mighty root
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Me when point tax

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Yeah that’s goofy

mint brook
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Point tax?

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Where

placid fiber
mint brook
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Lmfao

placid fiber
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This is more like it

copper hawk
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Our resident girl gamer

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She dropped 1.5 million damage w the evis 3 in a h40

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OLD h40

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W dogshit modifiers (pox hardened, explodey gooplings)

mint brook
copper hawk
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Out damaging a purg psyker and a plasma vet lmfao

placid fiber
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A true god of the eviscerator

mint brook
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Isnt evisc supposed to be dog poop?

mighty root
mighty root
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It’s crit

placid fiber
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It is a mid weapon at best

copper hawk
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She's probs one of the best players of the game

mighty root
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It’s pretty alright

placid fiber
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with alternative options that vastly outclass it

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like the relic blade

copper hawk
mighty root
copper hawk
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It's terrible

copper hawk
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She's hellishly good

mighty root
mint brook
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What if eviscerator had more crit chance base? Like 5? Btw what are its main issues?

mighty root
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Cleave

copper hawk
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Few things to fix the evis

mint brook
long cosmos
placid fiber
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30 more would probably not do much either

mighty root
mint brook
mighty root
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Caps at 4

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4 friggn cleave

mint brook
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Oh

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So… bully club style buff?

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So no more cleave cap

copper hawk
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  1. Remove damage cap
  2. Rework cleave damage distro on all attacks, increase it significantly to compete with the relic blade
  3. Update the ADMs (goes for all chain weapons), right now due to adms it suffers against all armor types; a rev'd light headshot won't kill a gunner lol
  4. Damage buff, mobility buff
  5. Fix the inverted damage models. H2 on evis 3 does less single target damage than H1 by a significant margin
placid fiber
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^

copper hawk
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H2 on evis 3 is the strikedown single target

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H1 is the sweep

mint brook
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What if they reworked the evisc to make the special be more interesting that a meh single targe damage?

copper hawk
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For the XV,

  1. Same as above
  2. Reduce heavy attack wind up
  3. (Chain wpns in general) Speed up how long it takes to complete a revd shred attack, or increase the per tick damage and introduce ramp up
mint brook
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Like giving it super high cleave on special and itd stop at elites and specials

copper hawk
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Oh also

placid fiber
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not omega cleave, but, stopping on a special/elite/boss

long cosmos
mint brook
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I want BIG cleave

copper hawk
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  1. Stagger anything on weakspot revd hit. Why tf does a chainsaw not stagger someone when the victim is being ripped apart. The ds staggers w a special weakspot hit; all chain weapons should stagger the target on a revd hit in order to compete with other anti armor options and make the attack functional. If your target isnt staggered you have to abort the attack since he'll hit you, which nullifies the entire use of the shred
placid fiber
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^

copper hawk
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Evis needs an ogryn level club rework

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Full stop

long cosmos
copper hawk
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It makes sense too because they are both sets if powercrept weapons

long cosmos
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so it's just chain issue lmao

copper hawk
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The enemies received a massive buff many many moons sgo

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B4 ur timez..

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Back when dinosaurs like me played

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Armor was increased and tweaked, hp pools were increased, enemy spawns were increased across the board, more armor etc

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Ogryn clubs and cleavers were never buffed to be in line with this enemy buff

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They existed in an era where a damage cap was justifiable because there were fewer enemies on screen and their armor was paper and their hp was nil

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So they didnt want you to kill them all super fast or whatever the justification for thst dogshit mechanic was internally

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Lots of weapons exist like this now, in purgatory

long cosmos
mighty root
copper hawk
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DClaw, chain weapons, Paul

twin wagon
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I member a time where Hsword 2 shot crushers

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A time when chaxe was the king

copper hawk
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Eviscerator

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The single barrel shotguns

placid fiber
twin wagon
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When birdshot was shit, but thanks to stagger you could two shot anything with the ONLY shotgun in the game for humans

copper hawk
placid fiber
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lol

mint brook
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Okay hear me out

placid fiber
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I remember when people loved the kantrael shotty

copper hawk
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It takes two to three point blank shots w the agri shotgun to kill one scab shooter

placid fiber
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Feels like such a long time ago

tame sluice
placid fiber
twin wagon
tame sluice
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they have higher cleave and stagger when hipfired but worse damage

placid fiber
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come on guys, it's the lion the witch and the wardrobe

copper hawk
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Only use agri has rn is slugs open bulwark shields

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I run it w my hsword 9 crit build

long cosmos
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That probably is my issue with just how drastic the jump is, 2 being trivial but 3 being a massive pain at lower trust levels when they spawn so many ogryns/maulers at once

copper hawk
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Armor defines the gameplay loop

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So i get how the difficulty can be daunting

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It's fun in auric damnation

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It's some of the most fun u can have rlly

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Auric maels

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CIVI, IIIVEG

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25 - 35 havocs

frosty herald
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Finally

elfin thorn
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any tips for relic blade?

frosty herald
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The first uncompletable event

copper hawk
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That's it

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Use piety w invocation of death

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When ur swing speed buff from fury of the faithful ends charge again

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Rinse repeat

long cosmos
copper hawk
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It's how i play the xv evis

placid fiber
copper hawk
mint brook
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New eviscerator special idea:
ON use you have three bars each lasting 5 seconds.
On rev, the eviscerator gains +100% cleave, +5% critical hit chance and critical hit damage.
Each bar adds another stack, when hitting a sepcial or elite enemy, lose the left over time of the current bar, performing the current evicserator special but qbiut 1.5 times faster.

copper hawk
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Here's my RB build

elfin thorn
# copper hawk Light spam

no heavy for the big guys? i think the mark i liked was the one that had 2 overhead heavies and then was sweeping heavy attack chain

placid fiber
copper hawk
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That's the 10 i think

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Yeah

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Or just light spam lmfak

mint brook
copper hawk
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Lmfao*

violet hornet
frosty herald
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mk2 is the better relic blade

copper hawk
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U should ask meow vold

copper hawk
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She's unironically the expert

placid fiber
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^

copper hawk
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The last standing Dame of House Eviscerator

mint brook
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Where is meow tho Madge

placid fiber
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MEOW WE NEED YOUR GUIDANCE!!!

copper hawk
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Asleep

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Zzz

mint brook
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GOD DAMNIT

copper hawk
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Lady Meowienne of Evis

sullen forge
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Eeyikes I’m Dame Da out of here!

placid fiber
copper hawk
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I just got done w hema

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Im sweaty and gross and tired

real sonnet
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We clearly just make chained weapons have their special keep the property even after a single hit, until it naturally unrevs

copper hawk
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2 lazy 2 put all my shit away

placid fiber
mint brook
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whats her time zone

copper hawk
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Jm sittin on my chair in our apartments common area w my sword bag

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Just rotting

copper hawk
mint brook
copper hawk
placid fiber
copper hawk
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She wont be awake for like

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8 hours

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7

placid fiber
copper hawk
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She fell asleep at like 0600 my time

mint brook
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I wont be awake by then

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Darn it

copper hawk
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So 1400 or 1500

mint brook
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Guess i gotta catch her in the early hours here

copper hawk
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She has a loooot of ideas for zealot as a whole

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Evis in particular

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She'll reply 2 u

mint brook
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Its 4:40 here

placid fiber
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Evis needs some more love lol

copper hawk
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We're gonna toys p much all day 2day so

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Ill make sure 2 remind her 2 reply 2 u

elfin thorn
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9am here god dam

mint brook
copper hawk
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0939 here 4 me

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I work nights

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So it's like

placid fiber
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So 16:40

copper hawk
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My bedtime

wooden dove
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Pretty sure the chainaxe is the only chain weapon that reliably staggers enemies. Especially the Mk IV.

placid fiber
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I know millitary time, really x.x

mint brook
placid fiber
elfin thorn
copper hawk
placid fiber
elfin thorn
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too lazy to do the math ✊️😔

copper hawk
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Me n who

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Im the templar

mint brook
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Are there other great zealot mains that replay? Darkpill how good are you even at zealot?

copper hawk
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Im not entirely sure dpw even plays darktide

placid fiber
mint brook
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Is all imma say

frosty herald
# copper hawk

actualy the imperium would most likely have a much more favourable stance towards eldar seeing as they saved guilliman

copper hawk
placid fiber
mint brook
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EXACTLY!

copper hawk
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Edlar

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I need 2 sleep

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Death Company drop pods looks sick

placid fiber
copper hawk
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I love the red X iconography on death company marines

sullen forge
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Bulldogs really are just squigs aren’t they

copper hawk
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Yamato

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U know lore

frosty herald
copper hawk
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R death company chaplains like

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Are they under the black rage too

frosty herald
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they havent succumbed to the black rage

copper hawk
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Or are they just dudes

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Tyranids r some threat huh

frosty herald
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death company chaplains are solely there to keep the marines under control

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or put them down

copper hawk
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Well not the Necrons

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Pariah Nexus is the like

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Current warhammer thing going on right now

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The Necron thing

placid fiber
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tyranids vs necrons = a losing war for the tyranids

frosty herald
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yup

mint brook
copper hawk
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Idek what the pariah nexus even is

mint brook
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Black and red go well together way too much

frosty herald
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vashtorr is going to the pariah nexus sector for the next key piece

copper hawk
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I just like the X

frosty herald
copper hawk
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It's such a unique symbol on space marines

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Just a big red X

frosty herald
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kind of like the obelisks in sm2

wooden dove
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I feel like Necrons would be like "Ok, we can be allies, but it's the Imperium of Necron now. Get off my fucking lawn."

frosty herald
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so chaos has an extremely hard time establishing a foothold there

mint brook
frosty herald
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but the necrons chaos vashtorr imperium and a bunch of other factions are going there

frosty herald
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to either stop or help vashtorr

sullen forge
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Another Necron W, fucking over the Tyranids and Chaos

copper hawk
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Who's vashtorr

frosty herald
copper hawk
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Byeah

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Im just a widdle templaw

frosty herald
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hes trying to become a 5th chaos god

copper hawk
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Swowd bwothew twinkius

frosty herald
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involving a propechy which requires a certain amount of keys

copper hawk
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Is he the Smith dude

frosty herald
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abbadon is helping vashtorr

sullen forge
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Yes

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He’s the super evil scary demon smith dude

frosty herald
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the sole reason why the lion woke up is because vashtorr's key piece was located in the rock

copper hawk
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Where tf u even get this lore

frosty herald
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books

copper hawk
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Im barely getting to dantes trilogy

frosty herald
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interwebs

mint brook
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Trazyn for example legit helped creed against abaddon for the simple reason of “you can out me in a display case in your museum if you help me”
The mf even struck a pose before he got put in stasis kekW

copper hawk
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Idk wtf to read neko_R_Cry_Sob

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Deres so many ,, booke

jagged cradle
frosty herald
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trayn is an ally to the imperium

jagged cradle
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It’s not good being illiterate

copper hawk
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Trayzyn has statues

frosty herald
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also the pariah nexus war will force the imperium and necrons to work together again

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i think the pariah nexus show takes place in the sector

mint brook
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Imo trazyn is the best necron

sullen forge
mint brook
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Closly followed by the silent king

frosty herald
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if he wanted to

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he could throw a krork in the middle of a whaagh

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and turn that whaaagh into a much MUCH bigger problem

sullen forge
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Issue

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Krork can become more Krork

copper hawk
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He has so much man

placid fiber
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only krork? skssue

copper hawk
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He has a fucking primarch

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Maybe two primarchs

frosty herald
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ehem

mint brook
frosty herald
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he has the clone of a primarch

copper hawk
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A shit ton of heresy era space marines

frosty herald
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which fabius bile traded to him

copper hawk
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Custodes

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Maybe a thunder warrior or two

placid fiber
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wrong one lol

copper hawk
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Castellan Creed

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A bunch of other shit

placid fiber
frosty herald
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if trayzn unironically has a thunder warrior it would turn the imperium upside down

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since theyre even stronger than primaris

copper hawk
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Not really

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A company of TWs wouldnt really do much

frosty herald
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belisarius cawl would study it extensively to upgrade existing primaris

copper hawk
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On one battle yeah

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But on a grander scale probably not

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Theyd def fall to chaos

sullen forge
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Imotekh son or Szarekh daughter

copper hawk
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And their armor is dogshit

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I need to read the infinite and the divine

placid fiber
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Aren't thunder warriors the basic scumbags, but, omega enhanced?

copper hawk
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Yeah

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Like super duper enhanced

placid fiber
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Yeah they'd fall to chaos

frosty herald
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theyre the og space marines

crimson ravine
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Is Mk3 or Mk15 better for the eviscerator

copper hawk
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Theyre bigger, meaner, stronger space marines

copper hawk
crimson ravine
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Reason?

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Just so I understand why

placid fiber
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I don't know the reason, I just know the mk3 is pretty ass

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You can use it, but, it takes some know how

crimson ravine
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I just like to know so I can make informed decisions hepme

placid fiber
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the mk15 is simple

crimson ravine
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I'll see if google knows

placid fiber
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and better

placid fiber
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The light spam is better horde clear, it doesn't have the cleave issue the mk3 has um

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idk past that

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I think the sawing is better as well

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wait wrong saw

copper hawk
copper hawk
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Better horde clear

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Simpler moveset

elfin thorn
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eviserators can only cleave up to like 4 enemies damage wise i think, so mk3's sweep heavy ends up staggering more instead of shredding, while mk15 can attack faster for the horde clear

copper hawk
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Curios:
+hp
X2 +tness

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Each curio:
Gunner res
Tness
Hp

hard nexus
carmine falcon
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BIG FKN CHAINSAW
LOOKS INSIDE
DMG CAP

frosty herald
copper hawk
elfin thorn
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mk15's heavies are strong strikedowns, so the special buffs it even stronger than mk3's light strikedown

copper hawk
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Haaaaai

placid fiber
frosty herald
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3 health on psyker + zealot 3 toughness on vet + ogryn

crimson ravine
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According to Reddit XV has a more straight forward moveset while MkII requires you to do things like push cancelling to spam the H1 for horde killing

misty nova
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That's not enough

carmine falcon
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how 2 buff evis special
make it faster

placid fiber
copper hawk
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Yeah and it does the horde clearing worse

crimson ravine
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Yeah well its all I get from google

placid fiber
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but they were correct in this instance

misty nova
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It doesn't explain how Evis3 has poor cleave damage distribution

crimson ravine
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And its agreeing with what ya'll said before

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Lmao

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Where is the place cause

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Here ain't helpin

misty nova
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Don't worry

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Meow is typing

hard nexus
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that’s all

elfin thorn
placid fiber
misty nova
crimson ravine
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But said its on all variants

carmine falcon
frosty herald
crimson ravine
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Ah

frosty herald
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only the mk15 has a damage cap i believe

misty nova
crimson ravine
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Which is the one people are saying is better?

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So which is better

misty nova
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💀

crimson ravine
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Lmao

placid fiber
hard nexus
misty nova
frosty herald
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mk15 is for light spam

placid fiber
carmine falcon
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numbers wise

frosty herald
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and mk3 is the one that requires some thinking on combo routes

crimson ravine
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Aight

mint brook
misty nova
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The chainsword Xiiig is better than the Evis3

copper hawk
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HS 9 is better

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Wait

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Oopz

misty nova
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💀

copper hawk
crimson ravine
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I'm using evisc cause im leveling mastery

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Also I like class unique weapons

placid fiber
copper hawk
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HS 9 used 2 be class unique ,,

misty nova
copper hawk
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Then every1 got it ,,

crimson ravine
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Even if they're not da best™️

copper hawk
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Zigh ,,

placid fiber
carmine falcon
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my uncle who works at fatshark told me they will release a new updated titled "Revved up and Gnarly" and itll make chain weapons great again

frosty herald
hard nexus
frosty herald
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damn

crimson ravine
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Literally not playing the game

copper hawk
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European appawpriatin my cat-ture, dude

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Paws off gnarly..

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Dat MY word..

hard nexus
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i like the game for the gameplay

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not for leveling up my weapons

crimson ravine
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I like variety

hard nexus
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well

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then again

elfin thorn
hard nexus
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i did play before the update

crimson ravine
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And leveling the weapons is an excuse to try new things

mint brook
hard nexus
wooden dove
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The light attack combo on the crucis thunderhammer looks so jarring when it just snaps back into the first attack without any kind of animation.

copper hawk
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Wtf

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Ur not european

carmine falcon
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nope

copper hawk
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All u non americans r the same 2 me

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Im the most patriotic american only when old world ppl r here

mint brook
sullen forge
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Non Americans simply do not exist…

elfin thorn
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true

sullen forge
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Figment of my imagination

hard nexus
carmine falcon
hard nexus
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it’s like a worse version of thrust

mint brook
hard nexus
copper hawk
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VIVA LA ME uuh ESTADOS UNIDOS PINCHE PERRO !!!!!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅🦅🦅🦅 usa

hard nexus
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so even using it starting strong, you wouldn’t be getting max value

copper hawk
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I didnt mean it

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I love u cyber even if u hate me

carmine falcon
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oh yeah the special NEEDS to always stunlock crushers and i mean always

mint brook
copper hawk
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Hate ur trusty sword brother twinkius..

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Nevar blay w me..

hard nexus
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nothing should force you to do nothing to get value

copper hawk
copper hawk
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Astaghfirullah

carmine falcon
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he knows holyshit

elfin thorn
hard nexus
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and then they kissed

copper hawk
carmine falcon
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i aint kissing anybody but my wife (she doesnt exist)

copper hawk
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I charge per kiss anyways

mint brook
# hard nexus yeah

Aight, what about the heat mechanic for eviscerator tho and making it get stuck on elites and making the shredding animation quicker, as well as buffing the cleave in general of the Evisc? Would that be more fun?

copper hawk
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I am NOT getting on wt

hard nexus
carmine falcon
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give her back

copper hawk
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She's..

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... in another castle

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MY LIFE IS LIKE A

copper hawk
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VIDEOOO GAAAAME

copper hawk
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Tryin hard 2 beat dug stage..

hard nexus
sullen forge
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We should give the Evis a debuff on special hit for the sole purpose of making people even more confused when using debuffs…….

placid fiber
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Now if you'll excuse me I have to go carve up my face shave my face

hard nexus
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a heat mechanic would just make it play too similarly to relic blade

frosty herald
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Real

hard nexus
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and you want it to maintain its niche

frosty herald
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We should give it a gasoline mechanic

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Pookie

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U dleot like

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1 microsecond

mint brook
carmine falcon
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i just want evis to deal mucho damag
i play it for moveset over anything else

hard nexus
copper hawk
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If ur not asleep by the time im done showering im gonna

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Ooooh im gonna..

mint brook
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I wanted evisc and chainsword to copy that sorta

wooden dove
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Make the eviscerator blades chip the more you attack enemies with the rev mode on, and then you have to replace the chain when it breaks, idk. Would be funny, you pull out, like, a screwdriver to disassemble the thing.

frosty herald
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I still want a stance weapon like sm2 powersword

carmine falcon
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outside the uppercut and pokes

copper hawk
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Nah

carmine falcon
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probably too much effort

copper hawk
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Make the evis buck everytime it hits anything metal back at the user

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And kill them

placid fiber
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I came back for peak comedy

mint brook
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Cool thing abiut the power blade in sm2, is that you can skip the power stance switch bu dodging and heavy attacking

placid fiber
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My face is only mostly bleeding now <.<'

hard nexus
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i’ve written out all my proposed, easier, evis changes

hard nexus
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that would put it up to relic blade level

mint brook
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Please?

hard nexus
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that’s absolutely #1

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it has to go

mint brook
hard nexus
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then once it’s gone

copper hawk
hard nexus
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it needs better damage distribution

copper hawk
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Me n who

hard nexus
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it’s only on lights

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but it’s stupid

placid fiber
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I said that earlier lol

copper hawk
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None of u cuz none of u have JOBZ 2 have MONEY 2 Put in a WALLET

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Gehehehehegeheyehheh3j3n3.

mint brook
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Damage cap imo is the dumbest stat in the game

hard nexus
placid fiber
copper hawk
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Fake

hard nexus
placid fiber
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I've worked a jersey mike's since they remodeled it from a kfc to a jersey mike's

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Yah well

placid fiber
copper hawk
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I could kill u

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W a sword

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And

placid fiber
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I get free fucking food

copper hawk
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U couldnt do dat

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So

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Get swagged on . Tupid

tame sluice
placid fiber
copper hawk
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My tummy hurts

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But i am being very brave

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This is some witchcraft

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One of u did this 2 me

hard nexus
# copper hawk W a sword

i’d parry like for honor and then double side light into feinted shoulder bash into guard break and then i’d throw you into a wall and

placid fiber
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half off at jersey mike's makes it cheaper than subway lol

copper hawk
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Wooo yeah

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I'd party too

hard nexus
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wooooo yeah

frosty herald
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I love you

frosty herald
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But i love your money more

hard nexus