#zealot-class
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Absolute batman is an insane person
That's me loading up new Vegas making another energy weapons build and joining the brotherhood
I always set out with a new idea and by the time I get to Vegas I’m a Big Iron build again
i always played skyrim as 2h kill everything nord/ orc or sneaky bow elf only deviated once to have a destruction magic dark elf
me doing 5 identical playthroughs by accident
dunmer are the best race
Dunmer
dumb nerd
Why does it remove the moustache?
oops i loved the set
bald
My Zealot’s a Purifier subclass who uses the Spearhead Boltgun and the Heavy Eviscerator
Oh shit, its bat brick 
Also
Not done yet
But this is what i got so far for the right side
are you challenging Ainz?
Ainz?
zealot made the guide first almost done
probably there's other legacy guide in this server
Nah i am working on a tree rework
hmmm
HOLY SHIT
DEATH DEALER BOLTER
AMBOUTABOLT
MAGDUMPING BOSSES IS SO SATISFYING
85 CRIT CHANCE WITH CAVALCADE
AND THE 30% ON 25% CLIP
AND PIETY
death dealer isnt even what makes the bolter crazy for mortis its exe stance that flly does it
Pretty sure the HB in Boltgun has that rof
i dont ever see anyone run it but assail specifically also has some fairly decent buffs for mortis aswell
I didn't play mortis that much
trying get hang first in uprising
then try carrying my friend in uprising through wave 12
pysker underlevel
I love the shredder in Mortis too
one of them was for every enemy hit you regain an assail charge back pair w scriers nearly 100% assail uptime
Shredder on Death Dealer can fire insanely long with cavalcade and 30% on 25% clip
What do y’all think about the Heavy Eviscerator?
is okay and nice
i use mk 15 for braindead gameplay
It’s my favorite melee weapon besides the Devil’s claw
Mortis Bolter is effectively our heavy bolter
One of our worst weapons
i wanna see how you feel using relic blade
Takes a lot of skill to use at high levels
One of the last of the jankiest weapons in the game
Nuh uh
If u like what the evis does use the relic blade
ogryn has really really dumb death dealer potential with duel link stubber if you get the right combos once it hits like round 6 you can literally hold the trigger down and potentially not run out of ammo till the end of the game
Isn't it capped to only hit 4 people at a time
Or use a hs9 w dblow and hyer
Damages only 4 enemies on light attacks yeah
On the xv that's your horde clear
it is because the burst limits overrides?
that one cooldown on every lucky bullet
You can only damage 4 enemies w ur horde clear attacks w a horde clear weapon
Abysmal frogshit
The 3 is even worse
If u want 2 use an evis then use the xv
Dont bother w the 3
you dont even need burst to make it work its mainly to with crits not taking ammo and lucky bullets and that one blessing that loads ammo from reserve into the mag on crit
it's the optimal malice weapon
you can damage the whole 4 enemies who make up a horde
Lol yeah
@modern lintel
Balancing for malice
Better space marine 2
chainaxe and evis fighting for top dog shit chainweapon award
Wait till we get chain auto pistol

sound like gear war stuff
So yah
Is thunder hammer & flamer combo actually how practical
Keep seeing so many zealots running that mix
thammer covers single target, flamer covers hordes/elite groups
Though you probably should only use the flamer for dense hordes, otherwise you'll run out of ammo really quickly
with the flamer you want tknives though, for an option with more range
thunder hammer works a lot like the great hammer in vt2
it can handle hordes, it just doesn't have great ttk
Guess im bit too used to catachan knife flamer combo with shroudfield
Im not used to running both flamer and thammer at same time
It feels bit excessive
You could also run something for specials as an alternative to have a weapon with better mobility with the thammer
My advice is, don't get used to any one weapon. Use the ones you think are dogshit as well, maybe at a lower difficulty at first. If you're running nothing but your best build stuff can get boring real quick.
I usually run infantry autoguns with thammer
Some weapons require a certain loadout to be effective
Or shredder
bolt pistol and laspistol both work as well for something with mobilty and special killing capabilities
this also depends on if we're talking havoc or not
Also ive never run the shroud or chorus with thammer
since a lot of weapons fall off hard in havoc
I should try
shroudfield with the thammer is a meme, and chorus with the thammer sucks. Chastise does the most for it because of teh gauranteed crit and 20% attack speed
Yeh
hense this, with is a meme build ^
Chastise been pretty much auto-choice
twas a damnation plague ogryn tho
But i do now itch to try chorus thammer with flamer
chorus with the thammer just is meh
The only reason shroudfield really can work is because of boss 1 shot memes
But it sucks in other use cases
I mean if it's built right it can still 1 shot ogryn elites
I do like my "support" builds
laspistol is actually S tier if you have even halfway accurate aim
very good mobility&swap speed, pinpoint accurate, ammo efficient
it's even better with vet since you get free ammo on crits
the only weapons i take with chorus are knife crusher relic and obv dueling sword cause they can all work under their own weight with out having to be juiced by chastise or back stab stealth
unironically, outside of havoc, the zealot's best "support" tool is killing the enemies.
Indeed
Hense why I suggested it
I know. I just wanted to expound on that fact.
I dont play havoc tho. Cant find any groups. I have used shotties for some time now
but if you're going to run chorus I would definitinely suggest something besides the thammer
I use pretty much anything besides dueling swords
Chainswords, evicerators, shock mauls
If you use chastise every single weapon (besides the mk1 dclaw) is viable. The mk1 dclaw isn't viable because of how ass its moveset is
i like the mk7 i think it is
rashad is the go to
I like antax
achlys sucks
comabat axes can also work w chrous
antax is just rashad but with cleave targets
devil's claws are my least favorite weapon
I don't get why anyone would use it, it has worse performance than every other weapon, and I don't need the parry because I can do timed blocks just fine
flavor
the parry instant kills ragers
rashad attacks faster with 80% in all but mobility, because of the finesse stat... and has better weakspot and crit damage because of the finesse stat
Only weapons i never use on zealot is the burstfire autoguns
you can 1 shot crushers with the perfect parry + chastise >.>
i do like the antaxs push attack more then rashad i will say
antax technically has a better push attack, but, it can still only damage 3 enemies
whereas a bromentum light 3 can kill 4 horde enemies iirc
they're extremely mid vs maniac enemies, which is sadge
the vigilant autoguns
I hate locked burst fires
Oh yeah the vigilant autogun. That's another weapon that I just can't wrap my head around. The rejects should just break them down and build a moonshine still out of the parts.
the mk7 is a single fire version
it's still kinda mid tho
I much rather run lasguns on zealot
Then i can larp some guard preacher at least
And right side keystone helps them to perform a little
I like the ripper gun
put can opener blessing on it
stab a crusher a couple of times
fire a salvo
boom, no more crusher
iirc t4 can opener caps the brittleness stacks on its special attack
that or it's half to cap
I can check
Brittleness caps at 16 stacks, which is indeed what the tier 4 blessing does.
Sounds to me like a beat to a death metal song 
🤢 🤮
Coodlown nerfed from 30 to 45
Movement speed on stealth moved.
Remember that cd nodes are nerfed to all be ability cooldown regen.
Moving through enemies is a bad idea.
How so?
Getting stuck inside of ogryns is already common enough.
Thats a thing?
Yeah, ogryns lock onto your teammates and will walk through you, then retarget you while they are inside your hitbox and get you stuck.
Happens all the time.
If the Eviscerator had 100 supporters, then I’m one of them.
If the Eviscerator had 10 supporters, then I’m one of them.
If the Eviscerator had 1 supporter, then I’m that supporter.
If the Eviscerator had no supporters, then I’m dead.
No matter what, I will always support the Eviscerator.
Not really since meow is the eviscerator God
Eviscerator needs to eviscerate more
I mean isnt that then tho kinda your fault?
Like i yet have to see it, not saying it doesnt happen, but that sounds avoidable
Like very
If you hear this and then claim it's the fault of the person that got stuck, you've never had it happen to you.
There is literally nothing you can do about it.
The only thing that might save you is if you have chorus ready or you're using a crusher/hammer and you manage to stagger the ogryn out of your hitbox.
Can you please show it to me? I am really not entirely sure how bad that is, as said, i barely , if at all, notice it
Or if a teammate saves you.
I dont have a clip on hand + I'm getting ready for work but I'm sure @spare talon has a couple clips of it.
Who tf is meow?
Also, if that is annissue, i think we shouldnt be robbed of the kove through units idea
Thats is on fatshark to fix
That is not on fatshark to "fix."
@hard nexus we have another eviscerator fanatic
They didn't design the game in a way that you should be able to move through enemies.
It is tho?
Vermintide doesnt have that issue
Read the comment literally right after what I said.
Then why does darktide have it 
Vermintide is designed that way.
There are base careers that have existed since launch that involve moving through enemies.
shade
Doesnt that meant that, if it is an unintended issue, that it should be fixed and that it has been done before?
I'm saying vt2 is designed with that in mind, while darktide is not.
yuppers
Evis15 is goated
Evis3 is trash

Cause it is hard to imagine getting stuck inside an enemy is intentional design, thus a bug, thus needs to be fixed
Darktide is designed around moving away from your enemies, kiting them, and using your speed and map knowledge to keep from getting surrounded.
Vt2 is designed around killing things faster than they stack up so you dont have to use your less than ideal movement capabilities to survive.
Unles you have experience on what is good and isn't, this statement means nothing beyond it being a personal feeling >.>
Thats all well and good, but that doesnt mean you should allow unintentional side effects/bugs
Me see big chain sword, me likey 
Yep, but, that doesn't make the weapon itself good. It only makes it good in your eyes(which is okay)
Also, the eviscerator i feel like needs its special reworked
It feels way too basic
Irs just big chainsword
mk15 is just executioner sword with a chain
Meanwhile power sword vs relic blade is a big difference
But chainsword vs eviscerator both just have the same active
I also like it ‘cause it can kill mutants and such pretty easily
Relic blade moment
Like i get it
Eviscerator i cool
I mean... so can the rashad, heavy sword, relic blade, dueling sword, and thammer. It's good that you like it, enjoy it while you can. I'm all for weapons being enjoyed, whether or not they are good.
But it has been completely eclipsed by the relic blade

Just don't expect coddling on your preference. x.x
Imo, it would be cool if the critical damage was increased
To make it work more with zealots general critical tendencies
It would be cool if you could keep revving the target while dodging(specifically the eviscerator)
And rework the damn special
Or hear me out
do all the saw damage in 1 hit?
In general, i want the cleave to be good, i want it to be the mirror image of the relic blade
after it finishes? pass
Fair
you're interrupting it mid anim for a reason
I just want eviscerator to go more with the chainsword
Where it is a great crit weapon
And its specials feel way more visceral and powerul
Would be nice wouldnt it
Idk, powerul sounds weird
fatfish shadowdropping stuff for the millionth time

All good
Btw what is the event reward?
Also @placid fiber
What do you think of this 🤔
Big question is, it it interesting
It looks... kind of like a nerf to shroudfield
Ah
the after effects are interesting, but, perfectionist is a straight up nerf
How? 
that's perfectionist
Go read current perfectionist.
Ah fuck wait
I forgor shroudfield has an ability with that name
I know the buff
But i genuinely forgot that it was called that

Sedation clip
Sedation clip (modified to look like damn)
As if I had anywhere close to that much editing skill
Idk
Old perfectionist is now base
🤔
@grizzled aspen What do you think about that bottom one?
The bottom one is meant to make high damage weapons like thammer hit much harder
Finally, my high damage smaul can 1 shot pox walkers in havoc 40


So you guys like it? :p
Looks interesting at least
Btw the tree changes a teency bit
I don't play zealot enough to have a profesional shouty opinion
I do like the concept for sure
For overall better pathing
as a zealot main I can tell you that looks interesting
Idk how good it would be, but, it looks interesting

get rekt my little pony

I'd like to remind everyone berserk 3d exists
there's worse things than the veteran talent tree
The whole "rework" to it is bad.
I was gonna say: that bad, huh?
The main draw of chastise is 100% rending on your first melee of the duration.
That "rework" gets rid of that.
@mint brook You removed the 100% rending on chastise? Don't do dat
I missed that
Funny how he dissipeared
as soon as we noticed that
Let me check
the rending was to replace the armor downgrade
Fatshark
Is the rending on melee only?
aight
If it doesn't get rid of that is it okay? >.>
Fixed
fatshark 101: Never put everything in the description
is the combat blade a good weapon?
It was the zealot's most op weapon before the dueling sword got added
so its like the 2nd best weapon?
Insane speed that breaks spawns and stuff? As well as the ability to melt elites? >.>
2nd or 3rd... relic blade is up there
its pretty broken aside from havoc
^
oh how do i use it in havoc
not really enjoyable there
Also, chorus is like ogryns middle skill, meaning no longer mandatory
with stealth to solo havoc <.<
💀
by breaking every spawn
this looks terrifying
the boxes are really scary for sure
Yeah the boxes really annoy me
Apologies for that 😦
Intryed a few times to get rid of those fucking buggers
Surely a trick played on me by the dark mechanicum
no rocks 0/10 rework

Lmfao
Yeah i do the icon once all the skills are done
Also
Loner will now always count as 4 people in coherency for everyone

I wanted to keep it relatively the same without it being griefing
so even with 2 people in the coherency everyone gets full coherency regen? >.>
<.<
I always thought loner should just be replaced with
"You are always treated as 2 coherency"
Same effect by yourself, but say with a second person it'd become 3, and open up going to 5 coherancy if you're with the full squad
I tried to combat rushers
That was and will be my nr 1 priority with stealth perks
“How can i make the stealth user prioritize using it to fight back rather than get getting to the ending of the map.
Infiltrate has for that reason a massive target on its back
It is shroudfield but 10 times more egregious
I can't really bring myself to use infil to rush, cooldown is too long to just burn my "oh shit" button 
probably my favorite tool to revive
more flexible in application then the shout imo
Well you know what part of its component already will be 
Omgg
Lmfao
This is more like it
The queen of the evis
Our resident girl gamer
She dropped 1.5 million damage w the evis 3 in a h40
OLD h40
W dogshit modifiers (pox hardened, explodey gooplings)
God no 😭
Out damaging a purg psyker and a plasma vet lmfao
A true god of the eviscerator
Isnt evisc supposed to be dog poop?
Creature from the abyss
It is a mid weapon at best
She's probs one of the best players of the game
It’s pretty alright
It is
Glazing
It's terrible

What if eviscerator had more crit chance base? Like 5? Btw what are its main issues?
Cleave
5 would do nothing
Few things to fix the evis
I mean additional 5, so 10% total
When the chainsaw has no cleaving:
I know
30 more would probably not do much either

Why? Is cleave that much of an issue?
- Remove damage cap
- Rework cleave damage distro on all attacks, increase it significantly to compete with the relic blade
- Update the ADMs (goes for all chain weapons), right now due to adms it suffers against all armor types; a rev'd light headshot won't kill a gunner lol
- Damage buff, mobility buff
- Fix the inverted damage models. H2 on evis 3 does less single target damage than H1 by a significant margin
^
What if they reworked the evisc to make the special be more interesting that a meh single targe damage?
For the XV,
- Same as above
- Reduce heavy attack wind up
- (Chain wpns in general) Speed up how long it takes to complete a revd shred attack, or increase the per tick damage and introduce ramp up
Like giving it super high cleave on special and itd stop at elites and specials
Oh also
it already does that for the most part
not omega cleave, but, stopping on a special/elite/boss
Going from force sword to the chain weapons feels like such a downgrade in terms of the activation time 
I genuinely feel like it gets stuck super easily on special use, even on trash 😦
I want BIG cleave
- Stagger anything on weakspot revd hit. Why tf does a chainsaw not stagger someone when the victim is being ripped apart. The ds staggers w a special weakspot hit; all chain weapons should stagger the target on a revd hit in order to compete with other anti armor options and make the attack functional. If your target isnt staggered you have to abort the attack since he'll hit you, which nullifies the entire use of the shred
that's because it is a downgrade
^
pretty sure force sword also has a stagger as well on activated hit
It makes sense too because they are both sets if powercrept weapons
so it's just chain issue lmao
It does :3
The enemies received a massive buff many many moons sgo
B4 ur timez..
Back when dinosaurs like me played
Armor was increased and tweaked, hp pools were increased, enemy spawns were increased across the board, more armor etc
Ogryn clubs and cleavers were never buffed to be in line with this enemy buff
They existed in an era where a damage cap was justifiable because there were fewer enemies on screen and their armor was paper and their hp was nil
So they didnt want you to kill them all super fast or whatever the justification for thst dogshit mechanic was internally
Back in the prehistoric era of 2022 and 2023
Lots of weapons exist like this now, in purgatory
Though I won't lie from a new player experience, the jump from difficulty 2 to 3 is massive
going from 0 ogryns to having them spawn in groups of 2-6

DClaw, chain weapons, Paul
they have a damage cap?
Yerp
When birdshot was shit, but thanks to stagger you could two shot anything with the ONLY shotgun in the game for humans
Noh they just suck
lol
Okay hear me out
I remember when people loved the kantrael shotty
It takes two to three point blank shots w the agri shotgun to kill one scab shooter
The lion…
Feels like such a long time ago
the shotguns all have tighter spread and higher headshot damage when ADSed
the witch...
the witch
they have higher cleave and stagger when hipfired but worse damage
come on guys, it's the lion the witch and the wardrobe
Only use agri has rn is slugs open bulwark shields
I run it w my hsword 9 crit build
That probably is my issue with just how drastic the jump is, 2 being trivial but 3 being a massive pain at lower trust levels when they spawn so many ogryns/maulers at once
Armor defines the gameplay loop
So i get how the difficulty can be daunting
It's fun in auric damnation
It's some of the most fun u can have rlly
Auric maels
CIVI, IIIVEG
25 - 35 havocs
Finally
any tips for relic blade?
The first uncompletable event
Light spam
That's it
Use piety w invocation of death
When ur swing speed buff from fury of the faithful ends charge again
Rinse repeat
yea, feels like a slog going from a trust 30 psyker to a trust 4 zealot where I don't really have many tools to challenge 3 crushers at once 
It's how i play the xv evis
That's the mk10
New eviscerator special idea:
ON use you have three bars each lasting 5 seconds.
On rev, the eviscerator gains +100% cleave, +5% critical hit chance and critical hit damage.
Each bar adds another stack, when hitting a sepcial or elite enemy, lose the left over time of the current bar, performing the current evicserator special but qbiut 1.5 times faster.
Here's my RB build
no heavy for the big guys? i think the mark i liked was the one that had 2 overhead heavies and then was sweeping heavy attack chain
heavy 1 heavy 2 light 3 for the mk10 relic blade
@placid fiber @copper hawk you like that idea?
Lmfao*

I avoid light spam with mk10 and have a lot of success, h1 h2 l3 loop is good for single target with the heavies being strikedowns
@hard nexus
mk2 is the better relic blade
U should ask meow vold
idk what to think of that
She's unironically the expert
^
The last standing Dame of House Eviscerator
Where is meow tho 
MEOW WE NEED YOUR GUIDANCE!!!
GOD DAMNIT
Lady Meowienne of Evis
Eeyikes I’m Dame Da out of here!
Lucky, I had to get up for work x.x
We clearly just make chained weapons have their special keep the property even after a single hit, until it naturally unrevs
2 lazy 2 put all my shit away
historical european martial arts <.<
whats her time zone
Yerp
Eastern Standard Time

She's 1 hour ahead of me
She fell asleep at like 0600 my time
So 1400 or 1500
Guess i gotta catch her in the early hours here
She has a loooot of ideas for zealot as a whole
Evis in particular
She'll reply 2 u
Its 4:40 here
Evis needs some more love lol
We're gonna toys p much all day 2day so
am or pm?
Ill make sure 2 remind her 2 reply 2 u
9am here god dam
Pm
So 16:40
My bedtime
Pretty sure the chainaxe is the only chain weapon that reliably staggers enemies. Especially the Mk IV.
I know millitary time, really x.x
Yeah, 4:40 pm/16:40
ur literally in the same time zone as me :\
i dunno it 
if it's after 12pm, add 12 to the hour #... bam, military time expert
too lazy to do the math ✊️😔
Are there other great zealot mains that replay? Darkpill how good are you even at zealot?
Im not entirely sure dpw even plays darktide
I would be the guardsman running around in a circle
actualy the imperium would most likely have a much more favourable stance towards eldar seeing as they saved guilliman
I know.. that black templar is one thicling..
I don't think he does, sounds like a real jackass imo
EXACTLY!
Guilliman's edlar girlfriend
Edlar
I need 2 sleep
Death Company drop pods looks sick
Can even tell when I first played it too lol
I love the red X iconography on death company marines
Bulldogs really are just squigs aren’t they
theres a legitimate case for the imperium establishing diplomatic relations with the votann eldar and necrons
they havent succumbed to the black rage
Or are they just dudes
Cough- Tyranids
I think that was my payday lol
Tyranids r some threat huh
death company chaplains are solely there to keep the marines under control
or put them down
Well not the Necrons
Pariah Nexus is the like
Current warhammer thing going on right now
The Necron thing
tyranids vs necrons = a losing war for the tyranids
yup
Death company mogs the shit out of most color schemes
Idek what the pariah nexus even is
Black and red go well together way too much
vashtorr is going to the pariah nexus sector for the next key piece
massive network of blackstone pillars
kind of like the obelisks in sm2
I feel like Necrons would be like "Ok, we can be allies, but it's the Imperium of Necron now. Get off my fucking lawn."
so chaos has an extremely hard time establishing a foothold there
Simplicity is sometimes the best solution
but the necrons chaos vashtorr imperium and a bunch of other factions are going there
to either stop or help vashtorr
Another Necron W, fucking over the Tyranids and Chaos
Who's vashtorr
Depends HIGHLY on the dynasty!
you live under a rock
hes trying to become a 5th chaos god
Swowd bwothew twinkius
involving a propechy which requires a certain amount of keys
Is he the Smith dude
abbadon is helping vashtorr
the sole reason why the lion woke up is because vashtorr's key piece was located in the rock
Where tf u even get this lore
books
Im barely getting to dantes trilogy
interwebs
Trazyn for example legit helped creed against abaddon for the simple reason of “you can out me in a display case in your museum if you help me”
The mf even struck a pose before he got put in stasis 
Idk wtf to read 
www . toyrus . org
Deres so many ,, booke
Read something
trayn is an ally to the imperium
It’s not good being illiterate
Trayzyn has statues
also the pariah nexus war will force the imperium and necrons to work together again
i think the pariah nexus show takes place in the sector
Imo trazyn is the best necron
Trazyn will always be funny to me for the fact that he is just so fucking bored he started collecting everything possible
Closly followed by the silent king
hes also the most dangerous dude in the lore rn
if he wanted to
he could throw a krork in the middle of a whaagh
and turn that whaaagh into a much MUCH bigger problem
He has 1 Krork
Issue
Krork can become more Krork
He has so much man
only krork? skssue
ehem
Dont forget the fact that he is the only necron who somehow has still a grasp on emotions since he can meld his face into different grimaces which pisses the necrons off to no end!
he has the clone of a primarch
A shit ton of heresy era space marines
which fabius bile traded to him
wrong one lol

if trayzn unironically has a thunder warrior it would turn the imperium upside down
since theyre even stronger than primaris
belisarius cawl would study it extensively to upgrade existing primaris
Imotekh son or Szarekh daughter
Aren't thunder warriors the basic scumbags, but, omega enhanced?
Yeah they'd fall to chaos
theyre the og space marines
Is Mk3 or Mk15 better for the eviscerator
Theyre bigger, meaner, stronger space marines
Mk 15
I don't know the reason, I just know the mk3 is pretty ass
You can use it, but, it takes some know how
I just like to know so I can make informed decisions 
the mk15 is simple
I'll see if google knows
and better
Probably not, especially if you get redirected to reddit or youtube
The light spam is better horde clear, it doesn't have the cleave issue the mk3 has um
idk past that
I think the sawing is better as well
wait wrong saw
Better damage
eviserators can only cleave up to like 4 enemies damage wise i think, so mk3's sweep heavy ends up staggering more instead of shredding, while mk15 can attack faster for the horde clear
BIG FKN CHAINSAW
LOOKS INSIDE
DMG CAP
fuck no
abysmal dogshit
i have the most insane curio setups imaginable
mk15's heavies are strong strikedowns, so the special buffs it even stronger than mk3's light strikedown
Meow! LOOK! #zealot-class message
3 health on psyker + zealot 3 toughness on vet + ogryn
According to Reddit XV has a more straight forward moveset while MkII requires you to do things like push cancelling to spam the H1 for horde killing
That's not enough
yeah i saw
how 2 buff evis special
make it faster
Reddit is not the place to go for info
Yeah and it does the horde clearing worse
Yeah well its all I get from google
but they were correct in this instance
It doesn't explain how Evis3 has poor cleave damage distribution
And its agreeing with what ya'll said before
Lmao
Where is the place cause
Here ain't helpin
all it needs right now is more damage on h2,ADM buffs, and to be faster
that’s all
yeah kinda what we said, but be wary of youtube or reddit. misinformation tends to spread often
The problem with googling is you get sent to 2 places with worse info/incorrect info: Youtube/Reddit

They did mention that Eviscerator has a hard cap of 4 targets on cleave
But said its on all variants
unironically copy the speed and dmg profile when running it with marty to none marty builds

this is false
cap is only on lights
Ah
only the mk15 has a damage cap i believe
Yeah that's true
But mk3 has poor cleave damage distribution on the H1 which is uncapped
💀
Lmao
also the mk15 revved light can damage up to 6 horde enemies
that’s outdated, H1 QQ is how the evis used to play
now it has at least actual combos, but it’s still really bad
15
mk15 is for light spam
15
technically the light spam one is better
numbers wise
and mk3 is the one that requires some thinking on combo routes
Aight
Fairs 
The chainsword Xiiig is better than the Evis3
💀
gottem
HS 9 used 2 be class unique ,,
When I'm on a carapace killing competition and my opponent.....
Then every1 got it ,,
Even if they're not da best™️
Zigh ,,
You can also sacrifice greens of the same weapon type for easy weapon mastery exp
my uncle who works at fatshark told me they will release a new updated titled "Revved up and Gnarly" and itll make chain weapons great again
alright let me tell you something neat
Yeah but that's not fun
LMFAO
if you want to overhaul evis special, make it so mk3 evis H1 can saw through multiple elites
damn
Literally not playing the game
it’s what i did
i like the game for the gameplay
not for leveling up my weapons
I like variety
idk i like going into games at peak performance
but that's just our preference
i did play before the update
And leveling the weapons is an excuse to try new things
Yeah i was thinking about a ramping buff the longer you have it on
idk if that is a good idea but it sounds fun
u can just use different builds
The light attack combo on the crucis thunderhammer looks so jarring when it just snaps back into the first attack without any kind of animation.
bro called me a european wot da hyllll
Wtf
nah, that would feel worse than thammer
Ur not european
nope
All u non americans r the same 2 me
Im the most patriotic american only when old world ppl r here
Can you explain how? I mean you are more knowledgeable on the topic so i am askinf sincerely
Non Americans simply do not exist…
true
Figment of my imagination
having to activate special then just, sit around and wait for the buff to max out, would feel incredibly boring
actually true america is the only real country god bless yeehaw boom boom kaboom
it’s like a worse version of thrust
What if it started of strong already and just got better after instead of my suggestion where it starts off meh?
again, you’d still have to wait to get full value
VIVA LA ME uuh ESTADOS UNIDOS PINCHE PERRO !!!!!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅🦅🦅🦅 
so even using it starting strong, you wouldn’t be getting max value
oh yeah the special NEEDS to always stunlock crushers and i mean always
So the issue isnt the value but the effect itself
calling ICE
yeah
nothing should force you to do nothing to get value
La meowgra..
Astaghfirullah
he knows 
if you scale it high enough, the max value could just not matter and would just be like how you usually play without that effect too
and then they kissed

i aint kissing anybody but my wife (she doesnt exist)
I charge per kiss anyways
Aight, what about the heat mechanic for eviscerator tho and making it get stuck on elites and making the shredding animation quicker, as well as buffing the cleave in general of the Evisc? Would that be more fun?
I am NOT getting on wt
yeah sorry i stole her
give her back
U could say
She's..
... in another castle
MY LIFE IS LIKE A
VIDEOOO GAAAAME
Tryin hard 2 beat dug stage..
a heat mechanic would be interesting, but i think @spare talon ‘s idea of making pressing the rev attack (holding for a heavy) just immediately through out a revved attack, instead of forcing you to rev, then attack, alongside buffs to damage and speed, and possibly my suggestion of being able to saw multiple elites, would be perfect
We should give the Evis a debuff on special hit for the sole purpose of making people even more confused when using debuffs…….
Now if you'll excuse me I have to go carve up my face shave my face
a heat mechanic would just make it play too similarly to relic blade
Real
and you want it to maintain its niche
We should give it a gasoline mechanic
ooooo you want to play abysmal doooggsshhiiittt
I mean sure, i am not against it, my main issue is just, powerblade vs relic blade special is SO different in a way
i just want evis to deal mucho damag
i play it for moveset over anything else
yeah u have to scavenge for it otherwise it runs out and loses 90% of its damage
I wanted evisc and chainsword to copy that sorta
Make the eviscerator blades chip the more you attack enemies with the rev mode on, and then you have to replace the chain when it breaks, idk. Would be funny, you pull out, like, a screwdriver to disassemble the thing.
I still want a stance weapon like sm2 powersword
i said at release they should have just merged mk2 and mk10 movesets into 2 stances since they literally share many animations 
outside the uppercut and pokes
Nah
probably too much effort
I came back for peak comedy
Cool thing abiut the power blade in sm2, is that you can skip the power stance switch bu dodging and heavy attacking
My face is only mostly bleeding now <.<'
also, like crusher, different special attacks should have different properties
L1/L4 should be super fast, decent stagger
idk what 2 do with L3 and 4 though
H1 special should have high cleave, elites property i’ve mentioned
H2 should deal MK15 damage
etc
i’ve written out all my proposed, easier, evis changes
And remove cleave cap?
that would put it up to relic blade level
Please?
i don’t give a fuck about anything until damage cap is removed
that’s absolutely #1
it has to go
In other words this?
Yeah damage cap sorry, the part where you can only damage up to like 4 fucking enemies
then once it’s gone
it needs better damage distribution
yah
Me n who
I said that earlier lol
None of u cuz none of u have JOBZ 2 have MONEY 2 Put in a WALLET
Gehehehehegeheyehheh3j3n3.
Damage cap imo is the dumbest stat in the game
yes i would like to deal 33 MINIMUM DAMAGE TO FLAK!!!
I'm going to work in half an hour
Fake
i have a tattoo and u don’t noob
I've worked a jersey mike's since they remodeled it from a kfc to a jersey mike's
Yah well
so get rekt
I get free fucking food
as opposed to normal food that is not fucking?
And half off on all orders
My tummy hurts
But i am being very brave
This is some witchcraft
One of u did this 2 me
i’d parry like for honor and then double side light into feinted shoulder bash into guard break and then i’d throw you into a wall and
half off at jersey mike's makes it cheaper than subway lol
I'd party
Wooo yeah
I'd party too
wooooo yeah
I love you
me to the beer fetcher

