zealot-class

[placid fiber]

which your kneecapping up to 48% damage to 20%

[grizzled aspen]

Not when you kill things in 2 hits.

Most zealout weapons, especially on martyrdom, are going to 1-2 shot all elites except ogryns.

[mint brook]

… 🤔

I mean you aint wrong

[elfin thorn]

if only zealot got power sword but uncharged version only

then we're talking big stacks

[mint brook]

I run martyrdome A LOT

[grizzled aspen]

So your fire on hit talent only works on ogryns and monsters.

[placid fiber]

^

[mint brook]

That… was kinda the idea of fire… okay fine, i buff the damage guys 🙂

[grizzled aspen]

Zeal should get shovel instead of psword.

[placid fiber]

[mint brook]

What if it was melee strength?

[elfin thorn]

power maul

[grizzled aspen]

Martyr mk1 shovel would go so fucking hard.

Anywho martyr isn't broken, don't fix it.

Martyrs purpose is, fix that instead.

[placid fiber]

^

[mint brook]

I wanted to add some support capability and fire capability to it

[grizzled aspen]

Missing wounds grant x% of cooldown or whatever to synergize with martyrdom instead of being based on % of missing hp.

[placid fiber]

when a talent is ass on even the build that can get the most use out of it(full hp builds)... it is bad

[mint brook]

and avoid the chip damage

[grizzled aspen]

Don't bother.

"Support" is not in zealouts vocabulary.

And fire doesn't work as previously mentioned due to 1 or 2 tapping everything.

[lean lark]

he says while zealot has one of the strongest support abilities

[mint brook]

Well…

It isnt meant to be a support support

[placid fiber]

which is not in the meta non-havoc builds <.<

[long cosmos]

How does bleed for the emperor work? When it refers "to your next wound" does it only apply to hits that would down you?

[mint brook]

More a “i am definitely supporting”

[lean lark]

fuck does that have to do with anything

[tranquil saddle]

One spot left for ass title who’s down?

[lean lark]

zealots support is killing elites anyways

[violet hornet]

It means that not many are using it because they're getting more from other abilities

[mint brook]

I increased the martyrdome damage from 8% damage up to 6 stacks, to 15% damage up to 3 stacks

[placid fiber]

that's roughly the same dps

[mint brook]

My previous rework had 5% damage up to 3 stacks

[placid fiber]

15% damage... vs 48% >.>

[lean lark]

people's use of something doesn't remove the effect it has

[mint brook]

Up to 3

So 45%

[placid fiber]

I was talking about your original numbers

[carmine falcon]

maybe he's saying that proper zealot should not ditch being a literal meat grinder to be a book bot

[mint brook]

I … thought fire would compensate for it

https://tenor.com/view/animals-boogerbear-luckycavity-bears-bear-gif-7278500724667408980

[mint brook]

Yeah… i thought the fire would be nice enough

[lean lark]

you can rack in dmg while having chorus

[carmine falcon]

no fotf = no constant attack speed buffs and 100% critical hits that one shot crushers on demand with a lot of weapons tho

[lean lark]

so?

[carmine falcon]

meaning less killing

[lean lark]

fotf or not you can still kill every enemy in the game

it just takes slightly longer

[violet hornet]

You can take zero talents and grey weapons with that logic

[lean lark]

okay, chorus is a support tool that zealot has.

[placid fiber]

sips drink Why is everyone going to bat for me?

[carmine falcon]

i mostly play heavy weapons so i really hate being forced to be a book bot

fotf makes them a lot more playable

[violet hornet]

No one wants to see you cussed at for a nonsense argument

[lean lark]

ij is enough for heavy weapons

[carmine falcon]

i prefer piety over IJ 9 times out of 10

[lean lark]

cool

[long cosmos]

Also does the power on curios not matter if they only give extra wounds since it's only 1 regardless?

[placid fiber]

1 wound curios are 1 wound curios

50 rated? 1 wound. 450 rated? 1 wound

[lean lark]

no, power rating on curios doesn't matter

70 rating 17% tough is same as 80 rating 17% tough

[placid fiber]

the only time it matters is stamina curios since 400 3 stamina curios are 2 stamina curios in missions

you need 410+ for it to be a true 3 stamina curio

[carmine falcon]

IJ is really sick but stalwart just lets me press w and mouse 1 better

[elfin thorn]

i prefer marty above all 😏

[lean lark]

why does it work like that

[elfin thorn]

marty heavy exis is nice, the mk15 one i believe it is

[carmine falcon]

marty is really fun but frustrating a bit

[lean lark]

what were they thinking

[placid fiber]

Don't look at me, fatshark coding... 400 rated gives +3 in the meatgrinder as well, but, +2 in missions

[lean lark]

Incredible

[placid fiber]

[elfin thorn]

i just find it fun. good gamble to get me to low hp wounds
never had i had to think about barrels with a build so much before than now

[violet hornet]

Yeah this is indefensible

[elfin thorn]

and it's not even them proccing my passive. they're so nice for lowering my health while keeping my toughness

[grizzled aspen]

And its still worse than just using chastise and killing everything, except for your noob teammates that can't stay off the floor.

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/i’ve-fallen-and-i-can’t-get-up-i’ve-fallen-i-can’t-get-up-can’t-get-up-life-alert-gif-6449783994487402911

[lean lark]

support is support at the end of the day

how you do it is another thing

[grizzled aspen]

Being a noob enabler =/= support.

[lean lark]

chorus is a support tool

[grizzled aspen]

I ran 6 havocs yesterday and only popped book once to push a group of gunners. My teammates were good enough that I could've run chastise instead.

Chorus is not necessary.

[lean lark]

okay, chorus is still a support tool

that's the only thing I'm saying lol

[grizzled aspen]

I would've "supported" far better being able to oneshot crushers with chastise.

Also, while I'm thinking about it, FATSHARK, GIVE ME A HAND FLAMER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS.

[stone fern]

CHAIN SHOVEL NOW

[lean lark]

been waiting for a two-handed axe for over a year

think I'll have to wait three more

[stone fern]

no soon before the end of this year

TRUST

[placid fiber]

a 2 handed chain shovel

[stone fern]

and AND power axe

[placid fiber]

I'm imagining a zealot holding an ogryn's shovel rn

[stone fern]

i cant wait for even more OP rashad

imagine rashad but with crucis special

[placid fiber]

power axe gets the achlys caxe's moveset

[stone fern]

tbh

achlys axe isnt that bad

the third axe tho.....

[tame sluice]

okay

when you say achlys axe

which axe do you think that is

[placid fiber]

I mean the one where the heavy 1 is a sweeping one

[stone fern]

the one similar to rashad but with slightly less damage and a better PA

[placid fiber]

and then all other attacks are downward srikes

[stone fern]

did they rename them?

[placid fiber]

that's the antax

[tame sluice]

that's the Antax

and no they never got rename

[stone fern]

NOOOOOOO

[tame sluice]

that one has always been Antax

[placid fiber]

Now he gets it

[tame sluice]

also it doesn't have less damage it has slower heavy attacks

[placid fiber]

It does have less weakspot/crit damage

[tame sluice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/555301947146502144/907878507131068446/image0-40-2.gif

[grizzled aspen]

It has slower attacks in general and less weakspot and crit damage because it doesn't have finesse as a stat.

It has cleave targets, iirc.

[placid fiber]

yep, the finesse is hidden at 50%

[placid fiber]

Aw man

You figured me out yog

I was gonna touch my rectangle

[void bison]

DON'T!!!!!!!

[long cosmos]

So for all weapons that don't have a stat visible, is it always 50%?

[placid fiber]

not all weapons, only weapons where a mark has a different stat

The rashad and achlys caxes have finesse (and cleave targets at 50%) and the antax has cleave targets (and finesse at 50%)

just like the mk2 and mk4 dueling swords have cleave targets(and defences at 50%) and the mk5 has defences (with cleave targets at 50%)

the hidden stat is always at 50%, tho, if a weapon has it

[long cosmos]

So for weapons that don't have it at all, does it just not exist?

[placid fiber]

Yep

They just have the 5 main stats

The hidden stat doesn't generally do a lot

but if you have to use a combat axe with 20% finesse/cleave targets... use the antax mark

[tame sluice]

50% stopping power brauto guns

[placid fiber]

Yep

and 50% collateral agripinaa

I think that's to even out their overall performance, and to make it so some weapons don't have 6 active stats

[copper hawk]

Mold,,

[placid fiber]

How'd you know my nickname in high school?

[jagged cradle]

You’re moldy

[signal spoke]

Lore accurate corpse stasch

[tranquil saddle]

Need one more person for ass title run

[solar gorge]

new premium rotation lookin crazy

[hushed knoll]

HI LAMBDA

[stone fern]

HI DELTA

https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/6/1/61b859c90497ea425b25b9f65f370739717c6f01.png

[clever swan]

LAMBDADELTA MENTIONED??

https://tenor.com/view/lsdc-umineko-lambdabern-gif-18068087643924729459

[summer pilot]

Those are some funny looking psykers

[clever swan]

they'd one shot all the psykers ever

[summer pilot]

The true horror of the warp

No wonder they always sound so scared

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/rannick-darktide-rannick-darktide-among-us-rannick-among-us-gif-5291651355473045582

[mighty root]

MI BOMBO

Is that the grave warden hood

[void bison]

the fruit of labor devoured by a voracious beast

[hushed knoll]

That’s an im Pasta

Impasta

A fake noodle

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/annoying-orange-pear-teto-teto-pear-pearteto-gif-4234242764455108141

[signal spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-get-away-shoo-disappear-gif-5683568285290773389

[plush estuary]

"power sword does no damage, time for the dueling sword, its time to sweat"

new players are so funny

[signal spoke]

When the power sword forces you to power your sword

too much time for the average low life span dopamine zoomer player

[frosty herald]

unironically does more than dueling sword

[plush estuary]

he told me I was trolling on ogryn since I wasnt using shield

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-rdr2-arthur-morgan-confused-wtf-gif-16103884

[sullen forge]

I fucking despise its mobility but PS is better lmao

[plush estuary]

@hard nexus

[jagged cradle]

My idol

Teto pear

[plush estuary]

does opportunist work on the special

the full damage or just the ending half

[hard nexus]

hi3

[hard nexus]

on what

evis ?

yes

but mk15 evis needs greivous wounds to stagger a crusher without a crit

[hard nexus]

pretty sure its full damage

once its staggered u get the buff

[ornate bone]

Tried out head taker and slaughterer as suggested. God damn. Game changer for sure! Thank you for the advice.

I tried carapace+crit chance and it seemed to work well enough. If I revved/heavy attacked and chastised, crushers were dropping usually in one it if I landed a headshot, sometimes body shots. It’s tempting to try to throw in unyielding, just to see how that goes. Will report later, but thanks again

[hard nexus]

i wouldnt recommend crit chance

ever

only time it can be used is on a couple of staves really

even then its iffy

id do carapace flak

or cara unyielding

[hard nexus]

but im glad its good !

bandit would be proud,,,

[mighty root]

Just saw the biggest friggin ant and I’m geeking out cuz it’s gone

It’s was like

An inch long

[bitter anvil]

sure is not bullet ant?

[mighty root]

Big ass ant

[elfin thorn]

possibly a cockaroach

[bitter anvil]

roachant

[elfin thorn]

rochelle

[mighty root]

Dawg I’m in Tennessee

[mighty root]

Nay

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/rochelle-todo-mundo-odeia-o-chris-concurso-de-chapéu-gif-16964976735708308649

rochelle

[mighty root]

Nay tis my punishment for leaving an rc can out

No roaches here

I’m not asmongold

[elfin thorn]

huh

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/asmongold-roach-roaches-gif-15348068149241129546

[mighty root]

Me left a soder out!

[elfin thorn]

a shame idk who asmongold is

missing out on a bountiful bit i feel 🥸

[misty nova]

Lord of the roaches 🗣️

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/asmon-gold-water-disgust-fiji-bleh-gif-5942155623690568851

This is him drinking water and being disgusted

[placid fiber]

Some waters have an aftertaste

[mighty root]

Immediately reaches for his corn syrup

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/misscanon-misscornon-shifty-shifty-eyes-frightened-gif-26273986

[misty nova]

💀

[mighty root]

Dude I hate him

[placid fiber]

Also drinking water after eating/drinking something very sweet leaves a bad aftertaste in your mouth

[mighty root]

I hope he gets devoured by his roaches

[sullen forge]

Sniffs water, drinks it and recoils immediately followed with chasing it with coke

Vile creature

[hard nexus]

i hate him so much

[placid fiber]

You try drinking water after downing a quarter bag of skittles... but I've heard bad things about him >.>

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/robbing-asmongold-house-me-finding-out-gif-16890099709542597840

[placid fiber]

I have no opinion on him, I just know people don't like him

[sullen forge]

His army of roaches

Isn’t there a clip of a roach literally climbing on him

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/plague-ogryn-ogryn-reaction-live-reaction-plague-ogryn-live-reaction-gif-1395788199602766548

[mighty root]

From wow streamer to reaction YouTuber rage bait

[mighty root]

Yeah

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-body-mlp-body-mlp-body-bury-they-will-never-find-the-body-gif-15101326

[placid fiber]

Ah

Sounds like a nasty fall from mediocrity

[mighty root]

That has terrible takes and is vile

[tawny harbor]

from rock bottom to a bottom feeder
a truly terrible person

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/dunmer-magically-inclined-magically-inclined-dunmer-asmonrage-gif-21091748

[tawny harbor]

asmongold is short for assmongoloid

[mighty root]

Look up asmongold “dead rat alarm clock”

[placid fiber]

rate my sub

[mighty root]

Slop

I’d chow

[placid fiber]

That's a double meat 56 with no mushrooms or jalapenos and with extra cheese as provolone instead of american and with chipotle sauce and cherry pepper relish

there's mixed peppers and onions in it as well

[mighty root]

“Erm when the sun would come up and bake the rat I’d know it’s time to stream cuz of the smell” yeah I want you to die

Acolyte of nurgel

[placid fiber]

I might not be the most organized or keep my place the cleanest... but I've never had roaches before >.>

[mighty root]

I have some clothes I’m my floor rn

Das it

[long cosmos]

Accidently went into the beast of Nurgle's lair

[placid fiber]

cherry pepper relish is good on chipotle subs

[gaunt roost]

this game needs an abyss bar

[placid fiber]

I was barely able to fit it in the sub with the double meat >.>'

[void bison]

looks like something a detritovore would eat

[placid fiber]

but there's no mold in it...

That's just extra cooked steak

Even safe for Frog to eat

with his weakened immune system

[void bison]

yeah I'm sure it tastes good it just looks like it's made with rotting flesh from minecraft

[placid fiber]

[placid fiber]

I like my food extra cooked cuz I'm paranoid >.>'

[violet hornet]

Valheim sausage made with draugr entrails be like

[placid fiber]

I can't believe I ate half of that in 1 sitting

I was starving

then again, I did skip breakfast unintentionally...

[void bison]

I could eat all of it in one sitting and be hungry in like 30 minutes

[placid fiber]

[void bison]

heart disease clamoring for me!!! it calls my name in my dreams!!!

[placid fiber]

Yeah, that probably was heart disease on a sub

At least it was beef steak, and not extra salted... so it was mostly okay

Usually I put more vegetables on it, but, I was already worried about it fitting in the sub bread

[stone fern]

😭

[placid fiber]

Hey, paranoia has kept me from giving anyone food poisoning in the years I have worked at Jersey Mikes

[bitter anvil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437863525965365249/1364685356900946121/mazapsy.mp4?ex=680a91c7&is=68094047&hm=7b9ae34f8ae0db290dc7ce07c62ddad0a3ecf35fd875167a7069386fc445dad4&

[void bison]

I like worms

[stone fern]

food posioning is for the WEAK

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-chill-chilling-frogger-croak-gif-10156721

[stone fern]

there was a resturant near me and every time i ate there i got sick

i didnt realize it was making me sick

so i kept eating there

i stopped getting sick eventually

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/frogs-gif-7405055

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-smile-scream-screaming-bullfrog-gif-25789435

[placid fiber]

Had to scroll down to find this gif

through my favorites

[void bison]

if it was food from a different ethnic background it can sometimes mess with your gut biome until you're used to it

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[void bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1127804429878444034/1133139544271749323/image0-3-2.gif

[placid fiber]

I tend to only eat a set amount of things, I know better than to explore exotic stuff or stuff I don't normally eat

chinese/asian/oriental foods do not agree with my taste buds

[void bison]

I treat my body like a temple but specifically if I was like a tomb raider who dgaf about the sanctity of that place

[placid fiber]

I usually am stuck eating white rice, if I have to eat at those types of restraunts

[void bison]

or like a temple of nurgle

[placid fiber]

My dad got food poisoning when he tried shark once

[void bison]

that's what you get for eating endangered stuff smh

[placid fiber]

I'm imagining a giant shark on his plate in front of him, even though I know that is absurd

What I miss is getting salmon from restraunts... I know it is a bit expensive, but, almost nowhere serves it here

I love me some salmon

I can't cook it worth a shit though, myself

[void bison]

just microwave it for 10 minutes and chow

[placid fiber]

I'd have to get precooked salmon to do that

I only really know how to do 2 things for cooking: scramble or mince(make ground beef even more ground)

at home anyway

I know how to cook the stuff at jersey mike's better >.>

[elfin thorn]

does headtaker apply its damage on the strike that procs it, or the consecutive one?

[placid fiber]

The next one which gives it another stack for the next hit

etc etc

like sustained assault

then when both are capped as long as you keep hitting a target in the amount of time the buff lasts it will benefit from the full bonus of each

[stone fern]

🚬 not like blaze away

it works on the first shot

[placid fiber]

And opening salvo, and surgical >.>

[stone fern]

🚬 i think thats the point of those blessings <.<

[tawny harbor]

embrace the blessing of nurgle

[stone fern]

hell yeah

[placid fiber]

simply adapt. Who needs common sense if you can just adapt to the pain?

[acoustic dune]

OK hear me out

Add stan

As a boss

[placid fiber]

the whole world would die

there would be no survivors

[acoustic dune]

From food poisoning

[placid fiber]

Some might die just by looking at the food

[acoustic dune]

As for them
They will die lucky

For they won't know the horror

The horror of eldritch whisper the food will give them

[red mesa]

So reginald was talking about hammer build being a good chorus alternative as its a needed role in high havoc - deleting bosses quickly.

However, i ran a fotf mkIII knife build, and i feel its even better. Sure the raw burst dmg on bosses isn't quite as high, but heavy spamming or special-light chaining on a bosses head with a precog/uncanny dagger and a dmg build + high crit does A LOT of dmg with +25% unyielding. It kills bosses pretty nicely, and the knife feels better in general in havoc than the hammer due to its mobility and dueling potential

the issue is getting groups to let you run it without being in a premade, they all expect chorus or wont let you in if you're not running chorus

[hard nexus]

reginald

[red mesa]

even tho i really think chorus is overrated rn

[hard nexus]

hammer chorus isn’t very good

[elfin thorn]

who's reginald

[hard nexus]

you can’t force crits to build scourge

[hard nexus]

youtuber i think

no opinion of him though

@plush estuary how’s reginald

i don’t know him

[red mesa]

im not talking about hammer chorus, im talking about FOTF build

[plush estuary]

idk

[elfin thorn]

me either. i don't look at darktide media in that sense

[hard nexus]

i was talking about reginald’s build

[elfin thorn]

darktide slander though, i like those slander memes

[red mesa]

reginald is one of the most well known community members, i believe a tester, and been involved heavily since vt2 why you gotta @ some dude in the discord to ask about him lmao, the hivemind

[elfin thorn]

what

[obsidian prairie]

Cole's played with them, ask him

[hard nexus]

because i didn’t remember him lmfao

and ainz or cole usually would know

and i trust them

i can admit that i don’t know something and ask for clarification from people i trust !

[hard nexus]

oh wait was reginald’s build hammer chastise, not hammer chorus

i misunderstood what u meant

[red mesa]

hammer chorus was never mentioned.
I was talking about running Hammer + FOTF as a boss killer, but my issue is hammer feels so 'meh' in general in havoc besides that 1 strength.

Ive been trying the hammer FOTF build more or less but with MKIII knife, and i think its even better as its still good at doing big boss dmg.

I brought up reginald bc it was his build suggestion that had me considering hammer in havoc + fotf (instead of just playing another class bc everyone wants you to be a chorus bot)

so im trying to come up with viable FOTF builds that fill a role, like boss deletion, with other weapons. But everyone wants chorus

idk was just starting a discussion, wondering if anyone had success with similar fotf builds, using knife etc

[red mesa]

ya lol sorry not trying to be abrasive i was just also confused thought you guy were like disregarding what i was saying bc i mentioned a youtuber, its a solid build

and ya its FOTF + hammer + marty

and he was talking about how he thinks chorus is overrated

and i agree with him, been thinking it before i was watching him chat about it on stream yesterday

[hard nexus]

yah it’s been overrated

it’s a crutch for havocs

even back before shooter nerfs

i’ve been able to complete h40 with chastise mk3 evis

so chorus is really not needed

[elfin thorn]

"talking about hammer build being a good chorus alternative" that's what trumped me lol, thought u meant a hammer chrous, but good to get that cleared out of the way
chrous is nice, but you could run without it and be okay too

[hard nexus]

and now with the CC immune elites

it’s even less relevant

[elfin thorn]

i wouldn't complain about a chrous being around, but i don't wanna be on chrous duty heh
and then there's those final toll/red buff enemies

[red mesa]

this was a knife + fotf game I had in havoc 30+ that they actualy let me not play chorus. We crushed it, and I kept up in damage and stats with 2 HH ogryns (1 branx 1 mkIII club)

[hard nexus]

erm i believe you mean stumped

[elfin thorn]

cut me down to size

may as well be a stump at this rate

[red mesa]

this was the next game we played 30+ havoc. I played chorus instead to see the difference

it was a longer match, so all our damage was higher

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-trunk-log-gif-13221641

[red mesa]

and idk, i just had way less fun and i dont feel like we did b etter in the second match

but most groups will not accept a non chorus zealot

its so obnoxious

[hard nexus]

chorus is extremely boring

to use

press F to check discord

[elfin thorn]

'nyways, i run hammer marty in havoc a lot and i like it. it feels nice walloping a crusher that's been orange buff'd
i'm partial to slow but powerful attacks so thammer is my beloved

[hard nexus]

it’s literally how i use it lmfao

[elfin thorn]

unfortunate

[red mesa]

i just play HH ogryn instead when i want that melee itch

but ideally i would love to play FOFT hammer, or knife, or chain aze or something but peopel give you a hard time

[elfin thorn]

i haven't been pugging as much, but lucky me for still getting in high havoc games
bonus points since i don't run titles either 🤔

[hard nexus]

i’ve tried hammer in havocs and i just couldn’t get it to work

idk why

tbf i was trying out shock n awe

[obsidian prairie]

Mk3 addiction

[red mesa]

my issue with hammer is the build on marty always misses something I find important. Like you can't have the crit cooldown node + TWBS + sustained assault. Choose 2

and i want all 3

[hard nexus]

yeah

probably

[obsidian prairie]

Nothing is the same anymore

[elfin thorn]

i don't usually play crit, so i'm not used to the blessing of crit cdr node

[red mesa]

reginald suggests dropping TWBS and getting the other 2, and playing around it.

But im not a bad hammer player - and still getting thrust hits off without getting interrupted in current havoc with 27 bosses ont he screen is insanely difficult and frustrating. I feel like TWBS is needed

[hard nexus]

i played new h40 last night with mk3 evis chastise, and i was getting out damaged by purg (obv) but i kept up in damage with the ds vet and ds zealot

[elfin thorn]

when i do tho i use heavy evis 15, but lately been favoring dunking on bosses instead of a lesser version of that but can shred captain/lieutenant shields

[red mesa]

crit cd node + marty allows you to often use 3 FOFT in most boss situations, andj ust improves its overall uptime SO MUCH its very noticeable

[obsidian prairie]

Mental asylum behavior

[placid fiber]

thammer without twbs = ass

[elfin thorn]

nice. a shame i won't be feeling that joy anytime soon (but bosses usually die after a bit if i ain't diein'), but sounds like a nice fun time with ur knife build

attack speed for 10s go brr

[obsidian prairie]

100% fotf buff uptime

Silly

[hard nexus]

silly maxxing

[elfin thorn]

nothing as beautiful as using fotf so i can one shot a mauler with a light, cuz i hate this mauler in particular

[red mesa]

well i mean also for hammer

just in general its a good node, just bc of your base crit from scourge and fotft crits

[placid fiber]

It's just not good to build the thammer around crit

[red mesa]

i could see dropping it i guess. If I feel like sustained assault dmg is necessary and TWBS is too, guess i drop the cooldown

you dont build it around crit

[grave cypress]

knife skin you're not allowed to have

[elfin thorn]

tragic

[obsidian prairie]

Sounds like a challenge

[red mesa]

but grabbing crit cooldown node on marty + hammer due to chastise crits being enough guaranteed cooldown has been a thing

[placid fiber]

I mean... I guess 8s off the cd beats nothing

[red mesa]

8s is massive, every time?

ya lol

and thats not counting other random crits bringing it down further after the initial free crit

[placid fiber]

you mean the 5% chance?

[red mesa]

unless 8 seconds is the full 200% actually

[obsidian prairie]

with scourge its 35% for a few seconds

But yeah basically

[placid fiber]

Maybe, assuming you get another crit in that time

[red mesa]

much higher bc of scourge + free crit on foft every time you press it. Bleeds are everywhere between other zealots, ogryn, rumbler, vet nades

its enough to consistantly bring the cooldown up much quicker

i think its a good build/role. My issue is figuring out what to drop bc you just cant have everything

reginalds version, giving up twbs for crit, sustained assault. also no purge the unclean

[hard nexus]

hammer without TWBS

[placid fiber]

which then leaves you able to get knocked out of your heavies

[hard nexus]

guh

especially if u have thrust

[placid fiber]

Like you could drop crit tdr and something else

[obsidian prairie]

Your thrust heavy getting eaten by a poxwalker (they were hungry)

[placid fiber]

since with the thammer... even with scourge and a ton of bleed... you're not going to consistently proc the crit tdr when you need it

[red mesa]

right. thats the whole discussion. He claims hes able to manage it

but the one time i tried it and 3 bosses on the screen

it was like impossible to get a thrust heavy off

[hard nexus]

a lot of dt creators overstate their skill

[red mesa]

So I'm considering dropping the crit node or the SA node. Idk which, SA makes a noticeable difference on horde clear, and breakpoints on mixed hordes etc in havoc

[violet hornet]

I used to run thammer without twbs and people here wanted to burn me at the stake when I said I didn't

[hard nexus]

i don’t though

[placid fiber]

Like I wouldn't really suggest this but you could drop duelist and crit tdr for it, but, that's a pretty big sacrifice losing duellist

[hard nexus]

i’m amazing at everything i do

[red mesa]

this leaves me with 1 awkward point left

[misty nova]

https://x.com/BasedRPG/status/1914951016383971721?s=19

RPG Enjoyer 🐉 (@BasedRPG) on X

X · Apr 23, 2025, 7:54 AM

[obsidian prairie]

Good balance

[sullen forge]

ES4:R sweep

[placid fiber]

the only justification I can see for this is the thammer doesn't have a good finesse damage

[red mesa]

ya, seems like the obvious choice. But also considered dropping a pointelsewhere (enduring faith? idk) and getting puirge the unclean for another 20% base dmg on unyielding

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah thats a consideration but that would require dropping something expensive

[hard nexus]

if there’s anything i’d drop it’d be second chastise charge

[obsidian prairie]

Though ED isn't the worst thing to drop here

[hard nexus]

but

[red mesa]

my issue with this build is without the cooldown node, having chastise up is finnicky. You cant push it up faster. You can be caught dead in the water without it, or not be able to kill a boss fast enough, or miss that stagger/toughness gen

[hard nexus]

you don’t need PTU

ur unyielding damage is already plenty

[placid fiber]

the 2nd chastise charge is what justifies the whole invocation idea

[red mesa]

if you're not taking the cooldown node, you 100% need the 2nd chastise charge in havoc

its literally crucial to keeping your toughness up, staggerting things, and having the dmg to burst down a boss

without it, why even play hammer?

you need to press multiple chastise into bosses to make it feel worth it

IMO

[placid fiber]

and with only 1 chastise charge you can get stuck with only 8s knocked off of 1 charge, instead of 16 off of 2 charges

[hard nexus]

also true

zealot suffers

[obsidian prairie]

Holy shit actual build choices

In my zealot tree?

[hard nexus]

(it’s all abysmal dogshit)

[obsidian prairie]

Its a choice

Thats better than normal

[hard nexus]

(and will be outperformed by The Build with ds in all situations)

[placid fiber]

I wouldn't actually suggest this, but, this is something you could attempt to use

[red mesa]

its like if i had 2 more points the build would be perfect and justified. The way it is, you miss 1 crucial thing and i feel like it makes it feel 'meh' in havoc. Could be putting too much importance on those points but you're either giving up cooldown on your main gimmick, raw dmg into mixed hordes, or deal with being interrupted. All 3 of those are crucial parts of the build working in havoc 40 i feel

[hard nexus]

yeah

[hard nexus]

i wish punishment was good

then you wouldn’t need twbs

make punishment on hit !

and increase the stagger !

please !

[red mesa]

so it drops duelist and the DR node on crit which is a lot of stats, but it does get the things I want. I would try it in AM first tbh

[placid fiber]

I mean... the thammer doesn't get as much from finesse as other weapons, which is the only reason I would post this

[red mesa]

but my thought is, losing the 50% toughness DR when you're taking cooldown + 2 charges on chastise (= way more crits throughout the match) seems like a trap

but its a good suggestion

[red mesa]

ya true

[hard nexus]

well it does on lights

[north sedge]

Duelist still does alot for hammer

[hard nexus]

but otherwise yah i agree

[hard nexus]

also true !

[red mesa]

ya, wish it was close to as good as some of the new ogryn stagger nodes

[hard nexus]

duelist does a lot in general

[placid fiber]

Lights, yes... but we're talking more for thrust heavies

[hard nexus]

but no zealots is just so overpowered and ogryn is finally balanced but actually still weak and and and and

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/fluttershy-fluttershy-my-little-pony-stare-gif-25146578

[north sedge]

Duelist still adds alot of dmg to hammer heavies

[obsidian prairie]

Mental illness

[red mesa]

this is an option, but SA is what, 25% melee dmg? thats huge to lose

[red mesa]

20% + the 5% node above

[placid fiber]

I'd say 25% melee damage is a bigger loss since it multiplies with power

[hard nexus]

HANK DONT ABBREVIATE SUSTAINED ASSAULT !!!

but

yeah

don’t drop sustained

it’s massive for everything

[red mesa]

ya, so it really comes down to. Lose the cooldown + pick up good balance. Or lose TWBS and be smacked around like skinny guy in the mcdonalds line

[placid fiber]

If it was between duelist and sustained assault on the thammer, I'd drop duelist... that being said I wouldn't seriously suggest losing either

there is another option

[hard nexus]

blazing piety

[placid fiber]

This is the alternate option

[red mesa]

just play branx or karsolas ogryn and get everything you want + knives (rocks) and fun melee power fantasy with big dmg?

bc sadly, after like 500+ levels on zealot

thats just what ive been doing

bc eveyrone expects chorus bot

[royal vortex]

i still read the abbreviation for force greatsword wrong every time. darktide just be like that

[hard nexus]

zealot is just super overpowered and the whole class needs to be gutted and shot in the head like ol yeller

[hard nexus]

same

my petition to make it BFG didn’t succeed

sadly

[red mesa]

oh this is interesting, the backstab cooldown node only costs 2 points not 3. And you drop scourge but it gets everything else

I kinda like this

imma try it

as long as you're able to play around the backstabs, it can give more cd than the other node by a lot

[placid fiber]

It's more viable for the thammer overall I would say

especially being only a 2 point tax

[hushed knoll]

What is the abbreviation

[hard nexus]

FGS

[hushed knoll]

Why is that bad

[placid fiber]

iirc frog shared the idea for that

[hard nexus]

resembles f slur

[hushed knoll]

Oh

[royal vortex]

i'll let you dwell on that

[hushed knoll]

Why is sustained assaulted abbreviation bad

[hard nexus]

he’s incapable of higher thought

[hushed knoll]

What the fuck

[royal vortex]

i'll let you dwell on that

[placid fiber]

That's a bit of a stretch... but okay

[hard nexus]

at first glance it looks like it

[placid fiber]

I see 3 letters with no vowels

[hushed knoll]

Oh SA

That’s bad

[placid fiber]

SA is a bad abbreviation?

[red mesa]

no its a very good talent node

https://tenor.com/view/gizista-gizizmus-gizi-gif-22087323

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

@royal vortex

[placid fiber]

I don't get it

[red mesa]

why would you do this, we were all having a great time now hes gonna show up pshhht

👀

[jagged cradle]

Fate go ?

[hard nexus]

SA is commonly used to abbreviate sexual assault

[placid fiber]

Oh

Now I get it

[hard nexus]

he was like just here

[royal vortex]

i definitely wasn't here before and i'm not here now

[placid fiber]

That is bad

[jagged cradle]

Oh no

[red mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-no-noooo-gif-7347380959994097336

[placid fiber]

Mine now

[red mesa]

lol jk obviously

[hard nexus]

no

no joking allowed

only serious geese

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/funpolice-erikstol-stevelemm-jaychandra-clubdread-gif-18830660

[red mesa]

b.....b....but elon told me comedy was legal again

would he really go on national tv and tell lies?

[placid fiber]

I completely didn't even think about what that could mean

[hard nexus]

i am become meme

yeah… pwetty much

[sullen forge]

[hard nexus]

there’s living the dream and there’s living the meme

heh..

[red mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[sullen forge]

That fuck ass jump he does

[placid fiber]

better watch out, I was nabbed

[jagged cradle]

Cringe..

[placid fiber]

Adhd moment

[hard nexus]

he does it to make the X symbol

because his stupid fucking twitter

twitter is the only moral deadnaming

[sullen forge]

Is that actually why

[sullen forge]

Truthke

[hard nexus]

probably

it wouldn’t surprise me

[red mesa]

ya lol hes making an 'X' with his body. why he splays his arms and legs out. Hes literally the most cringe human being on the planet lmao

[placid fiber]

Mine

[hard nexus]

oh but if i say i belong in a

nvm

slow mode won’t return today…

[jagged cradle]

Mental asylum

[hard nexus]

no

[jagged cradle]

Yes

[hard nexus]

something even more sinesree

inserted

semester

[placid fiber]

bar

[jagged cradle]

You’re talking to yourself again..

[hard nexus]

semester

sinister

[jagged cradle]

There you go

Good job

[placid fiber]

Stan getting to you too?

[hushed knoll]

Can I abbreviate your name to DP

[sullen forge]

Why does it not surprise me LMAO

[placid fiber]

No way... it's almost like things like DPW work >_>

[hushed knoll]

DP Warrior

[placid fiber]

😏

[jagged cradle]

Nothing should surprise you

[hushed knoll]

[sullen forge]

I mean he’s a 40 year old unironically using Doge and Pepe in 25’

I’m not at all lmao

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

I knew you would do that 😒

[placid fiber]

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[placid fiber]

You look hungry, Meow

[sullen forge]

Slopdog

[placid fiber]

Why are you poking the weed in your pfp? I just noticed that >.>

[hard nexus]

it was the April fools game reward

touching grass

[placid fiber]

[obsidian prairie]

That game was so unoptimized

Could barely widthstand an autoclicker for more than 2 seconds

[heady rapids]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/zyUB1wLfy9

[grave cypress]

Mark 7 devil claw is my favorite despite less damage over 4

the poke on block attack is too good

[visual stream]

God's Emperor Fart

[visual stream]

I really didn't like that there were minimal click upgrades

2x per click means literally nothing versus the third upgrade being 500x/s passively

[obsidian prairie]

You actually took it semi seriously?

I just ran an autoclicker at like 1000 cps and watched it die when it was on for more than 2 seconds

[red mesa]

when using momentum keystone, is the stacks on dodge node important? its good for uptime right?

[obsidian prairie]

Extremely

Like

Required to even be useful

[violet hornet]

I like to dodge

[red mesa]

i havent used it in a bit been on piety so couldnt remember, but ya thats what i thought cool ty

[modern lintel]

i pray many a cataclysm onto you

[copper hawk]

Eugh

[grizzled aspen]

Inebriates poise is mandatory for functionality, yes.

Retributors stance is bad though, don't use it.

[red mesa]

im just a piety boy idk

[violet hornet]

[red mesa]

its good but i feel gimped without hearing that crit sound every swing lol

[grizzled aspen]

L.

[violet hornet]

I left, those people don't deserve the carry

[red mesa]

i dont think it has lower damage does it? The h2, light light combo is better single target than the 4 i believe

i think its harder to use, but has higher performance than the 4

whereas the 4 has easier to access combos and simpler moveset

[grave cypress]

the heavy attack number on 4 is shown to be higher in the UI than 7

I asked about this a few months ago and people said no its actually more damageon 4

but I remember someone saying before that the higher damage is only because of the way it tracks which move it classes as its heavy attack

but people said that was wrong

[red mesa]

when i look at the breakdowns of their heavy attacks unless im missing something they are the same

just different combos

and the 7 has the h2, light light combo

which is higher dps than the combo's 4 can use single target

and it has just as good horde clear, or so i thought

[grave cypress]

then I have indeed flipflopped back to the original way of thinking

[red mesa]

strikedown and sweeping heavy values on 7

and on the IV

ignore my bad block cancelling on the 4, i dont use it i use 7 and it has an akward timing/animation. But the 7 just feels better single target with the quick 3 hit combo (h2,light light, repeat)

dps you can see was higher on the 7, and bc you hit more times more chances for crits/bleed procs etc too. It feels better dueling bosses too

imo 7 is the good model, 4 is the beginner model thats easier. Both have similar performance but maybe a 5-10% edge on the 7 in good hands bc of the combo differences

[placid fiber]

As one should

[placid fiber]

F

[placid fiber]

Have you tried doing lights to get past the heavy 2 to loop back to the heavy 1 with the mk4? Nevermind, it seems heavy 1 block canceling is faster

[violet hornet]

narrowly avoided getting tossed off by a plogryn while it happened to my teammate in the following match

[turbid tulip]

I hate getting tossed off in the middle of a fight

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143287281868877824/1364550370361081876/484244788_18391982806104627_8947542850736873840_n.png?ex=680abcd0&is=68096b50&hm=63855b1c53a1e6ba4b55fd13a7de88e2196aeda7f92ee5c62779e1db1bf350c4&

[median steeple]

When do they break it down Holy style

[jagged cradle]

Do you even like the black templars

[copper hawk]

i love dem .

[placid fiber]

idk who the black templars are... then again... I don't know who most space marine factions/chapters/whatever are <.<

[misty ravine]

First among space racists

[placid fiber]

So... the imperium?

<.<

[misty ravine]

Yes, but more so

[placid fiber]

[misty ravine]

They threw out their one rulebook because it wasn't hardcore enough

[placid fiber]

[misty ravine]

(simplifying things greatly here)

They're a fleet-based Chapter (i.e. they didn't set up a permanent home base anywhere) so that they can be always crusading, all the time

[placid fiber]

so the hunt for xeno scum never ends?

[misty ravine]

Mutants and heretics too

[modern lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136292421211258932/1364764311054192660/ezgif-757e3b640b474e.gif?ex=680adb4f&is=680989cf&hm=adbf6aecaf5a488daa9c635a8bcafe39a3c90e7a21b678a7ab5611bf06ec6ece&

[copper hawk]

Pushin the Boundaries for what's Permitted on this Sorber

u play a Rinsky Gam..

[placid fiber]

Did someone say Risk of Rain?

[copper hawk]

No.

[grizzled aspen]

Black Templars have one funny joke, and it's just that they said "fuck you" to the restriction on the number of marines they can have.

And I'm pretty sure they're not the only chapter that did that.

[median steeple]

No they're not and they're not even the first to do

but everyone sucks them off for it

[grizzled aspen]

Hilarious.

Both of my boys in green are better.

(Salamanders and Dark Angels)

[placid fiber]

Those 2 I've heard of

[median steeple]

I hate black templars and their fans the only person I like who is a BT fan is Cica

[placid fiber]

I forget what the dark angels are about tho

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-stauber-cupid-gif-22532146

[sullen forge]

I simply do not enjoy the BT solely cause of how unbelievably obnoxious the fans are

[median steeple]

Muh secrets

[placid fiber]

[placid fiber]

Yeah... some fan bases are... how do I put it lightly... make me want to do this

[median steeple]

I'm so close to that but with Krieg but thankfully I can just paint them blue

I would like to mix and match the French and German WW1 colours

[placid fiber]

Some fan bases just make you want to rip your own eyes out <.<'

[grizzled aspen]

The most fanatical of traitor haters.

Fucking hell wrong reply.

[grizzled aspen]

Read what I said to see the gist of the Dark Angels.

[placid fiber]

This is the dark angels?

[grizzled aspen]

TLDR they relentlessly hunt their brothers from their chapter, calling them "Fallen."

Other traitors are also tortured into repentance.

But their main focus are their own blood.

[placid fiber]

You can get your soul back from a chaos god?

[grizzled aspen]

Basically they force them to renounce chaos.

[placid fiber]

but they're still fucked otherwise? <.<

[grizzled aspen]

Oh yeah the moment you renounce chaos, they fucking kill you.

[placid fiber]

Sounds about right

[modern lintel]

my top three legions are probably iron hands, darkangels, nightlords

[grizzled aspen]

Night Lords got nyctophobia from fighting drukhari, get that bitch ass chapter out of here.

[modern lintel]

alpha legion and ravenguard also a fan but not top 3

[grizzled aspen]

The whole sneaky boogeyman stealth attack chapter got made afraid of the fucking dark lmao.

Design wise, pretty good, otherwise, cringe.

You want a real chad chapter, look no further than White Scars.

They love killing drukhari.

[placid fiber]

ngl, I'd be afraid of the dark as well if I had to fight drukhari

[modern lintel]

id say ravenguard are more the sneaky then nightlords lords more specialized in scare and terror tactics but even then they got outdone in that regard by drukhari

[grizzled aspen]

Ah that's valid, but still, the entirety of the Night Lords got ptsd from the drukhari and now can't sleep without a nightlight.

[placid fiber]

Yeah drukhari are fucked up bitches

[modern lintel]

tbh any legion is going to have massive issues if they had the full force of the drukhari put on them

[grizzled aspen]

It is irrational to be afraid of the dark, but perfectly rational to fear what's in it. (unless you're a space marine, you literally have tools to fight in complete darkness)

[placid fiber]

literal night terrors that will turn you into their own personal chair

[grizzled aspen]

Don't forget, such furniture is still alive.

[placid fiber]

I know

[grizzled aspen]

And they feel everything. All their nerve endings are exposed.

[placid fiber]

That's what I'm afraid of <.<

[modern lintel]

i always just been a major sucker for nightlord color scheme and the lighting heraldry goes hard

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah they've got a peak design but it's a shame they just get fuckin chunked every time they fight anything.

[placid fiber]

If I had to choose to fight nurgle or the drukhari... honestly I'd probably choose nurgle every time >.>'

[grizzled aspen]

I think I'd rather fight drukhari and then somehow manage to kill myself before they can get a hold of me.

[modern lintel]

thats why i like iron hands the most they work very well and look cool as hell with cybernetics just sucks theyre still chudded out about their primarch 10000 years later

[placid fiber]

idk, man, the drukhari are scary

[grizzled aspen]

Nurgle will give you a disease that makes you shit out all your lower organs, then eat your soul.

Drukhari will turn you into a living piece of furniture in perpetual agony.

At least with drukhari you can kill yourself to spare yourself such pain.

[jagged cradle]

Are any of your characters in sm2 Templar

[copper hawk]

yah

[modern lintel]

death isnt always enough to save yourself from either tbh

[grizzled aspen]

Oh and that disease thing is real, it's one of the plagues you can do in twwh3.

[placid fiber]

assuming you aren't already a living piece of furnature by the time you try to do anything

[placid fiber]

Okay fine I choose khorne instead lol

I"ll fight him <.<

[modern lintel]

even then if you did somehow died they could bring you back if they thought itd be funny

[placid fiber]

at least I'll get slowly maimed then

[grizzled aspen]

Honestly, if I had to fight chaos, I'd prefer fighting Khorne.

[placid fiber]

even tzeentch sounds preferable to the drukhari, imo

[grizzled aspen]

At least a Khornate aligned astartes would just decapitate you and be done with it.

[misty ravine]

Wasn't there a story where a Dark Eldar Haemonculus saw the Golden Throne and then killed himself because he knew he would never be able to surpass such a perfect torture device

[modern lintel]

tzeentch will turn you into a frog then throw you into alice in the wonderland type shit

[placid fiber]

beats being a living piece of furnature

[grizzled aspen]

If by "Alice in wonderland type shit" you mean a collapsing black hole, then yeah.

Tzeentch loves to throw things into space-time anomalies.

[modern lintel]

or he could just explode you with his mind really depends on the day

[grizzled aspen]

See: Kairos Fateweaver.

[placid fiber]

Again: beats being turned into a living piece of furnature >.>

[misty ravine]

See also: Most of what Peter Fehervari has written for Black Library

[grizzled aspen]

Honestly, a lot of things beat being turned into living furniture.

[misty ravine]

Legit the only BL material I still read anymore

[grizzled aspen]

I'd rather be eaten alive by necron scarabs.

[placid fiber]

As terrible as that sounds... same...

[grizzled aspen]

It would be hellaciously painful but at least I would die.

[placid fiber]

I think some of the death world horrors would be preferable

if not most

[grizzled aspen]

I'd give a flayed one a hug.

[placid fiber]

I'd take a face eater

[grizzled aspen]

I'd play bloody knuckles with an ork nob.

[placid fiber]

smother it on my face

I'd jump in a venus mantrap

[modern lintel]

short game

[grizzled aspen]

Nobs are what they're called, yeah?

[grizzled aspen]

That's the point, my guy.

[placid fiber]

I'd go toe to toe with a catachan devil... for like... 0.001 seconds before I get eviscerated

[copper hawk]

smonk @hard nexus

[plush estuary]

GRENADE! GET DOWN

[jagged cradle]

You’re playing without me?

Wow

[plush estuary]

burger, godd, and I were playing

dorktide now

[jagged cradle]

Smh

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/mindwave-starlight-holohammer-head-bop-gif-16959428137437548875

[jagged cradle]

You still doing night shift ?

[median steeple]

plasteel

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-get-down-martin-pizza-man-gif-12474194

[visual stream]

Have you played the demo to this game

That one was stuck in my head for like a week

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/mindwave-starlight-holohammer-head-bop-gif-16959428137437548875

nop

idk what it even is

i just stole the gif from godd cuz i liked it

[copper hawk]

yez

u wouldnt understand unemployleteriat

zigh..

[opaque island]

what game?

is it actually fucked up wrapped in a cutesy wrapper, or is it actually just cutesy innocent fun...actually what genre is it

[visual stream]

Called Mindwave

[opaque island]

looks like a warrior ware like

[visual stream]

It's a warioware(?)esque game where you and someone else plug your brains in to a machine to go through their minds in tournaments

Yesss

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/abbie-mindwave-mindwave-starlight-sitting-in-my-room-like-this-gif-17726649506217881543

[visual stream]

So the minigames are literally you going through someone's brain, seemingly usually through their memories

[opaque island]

this couldnt possibly end badly

[visual stream]

Neverrrrr

It also has an endless mode after you beat what little there is of the demo

Looks like it'll just be a neat little game when it finishes

[jagged cradle]

I’ve been employed before…

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/smDBMl8NjXd.gif

[ornate bone]

Mmmm 4k worth of computer parts coming to my house today

I hate thinking about the money

But the frames

[grizzled aspen]

So many console players pubbing havoc rn...

[clever swan]

mmm 4k worth of this guy's computer parts

(I'm waiting outside)

[ornate bone]

Don't do it

[grizzled aspen]

Brother your flamer fucking sucks.

[ornate bone]

Pls

Ill cry

[grizzled aspen]

Mmm 2k worth of that guy's pc parts ( I will eat half ).

[ornate bone]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/by2KMC

This is the build,
Im Canadian so

[twin wagon]

How hard is it to have optimized weapons in havoc 40

No one, no one in the past 3 days has had one

[ornate bone]

2.8k American

[sullen forge]

#1 Elf Hater spotted

[grizzled aspen]

It's not even a 40, its a 24.

I'm pubbing low clearance lobbies for the penance.

[twin wagon]

[grizzled aspen]

Bro is also running right side piety with crit and backstab cdr with ds.

[twin wagon]

People really should inform themselves

[ornate bone]

Honestly I'm just waiting for a relic blade premium skin before I play again

[grizzled aspen]

WHAT IS THAT

[ornate bone]

Literally anything to spice up the gameplay

[grizzled aspen]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/fmj-full-metal-jacket-gif-24053533

[ornate bone]

Who tf are you looking at

[grizzled aspen]

Inspect from party finder mod.

I can see loadouts of people that I'm attempting to join or that are attempting to join me.

[ornate bone]

Damn, that's invasive
I don't want other players seeing when I'm using a bleed knife

[clever swan]

u should get 6000 mhz cl 30

[grizzled aspen]

In other words I can tell if someone is garbage or not based entirely on what they're using.

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/basic-training-basic-drill-sergeant-gunnery-sergeant-sergeant-hartman-gif-16789790873957339114

[ornate bone]

Why

[ornate bone]

Can't wait for you to see a zealot roll up with dueling sword and flamer

[pulsar mortar]

Anybody know a good dueling sword build for the zealot?

[twin wagon]

No

[clever swan]

better number

also dont buy windows for $100. but im suuure u know that

[ornate bone]

Yeah I know that dw

Gunna have someone build the computer for me

And install the operating system

For $100

Ill see about getting the 30 but it's a bundle deal

[rain knoll]

do we have Vt2 Xsword counterpart here?

[analog ember]

doesn't exist

[grizzled aspen]

Closest thing you're going to get is mk10 relic blade or mk15 evisc. (assuming you do the vt2 l1 l2 block cancel loop)

[rain knoll]

i'm planning to try relic blade next

[grizzled aspen]

Mk10 rb does a right to left, then a left to right, then a poke for its light chain.

It's faster to just light spam than it is to block cancel, especially in mixed hordes where your poke can pick an elite out.

[ornate bone]

Mmmm lawnmower build with mk10 rb

Good times

You get lost in the sauce

[grizzled aspen]

Played club rumbler ogryn despite sucking at ogryn in a h24.

Rumbler is so fucking busted with BLO its not even funny.

You mean to tell me I have infinite ammo and can always guarantee a save?

[rain knoll]

how does ogryn have unlimited ammo?

[grizzled aspen]

BLO has an aux talent that grants 10% chance for a lucky bullet proc per melee kill, up to 10 times.

So 10 melee kills = guaranteed lucky bullet = infinite ammo.

[rain knoll]

oh sound fun i have to try that

[grizzled aspen]

Oh and there's no timer on that.

You can just hold that free shot until you need to shoot it at something.

There is one teensy downside to doing that build though, and that's DOT's not counting as melee kills, even if your melee is drawn. (it should stay this way for balancing reasons) Batter kind of screws you over a bit because of that, a lot of enemies will survive eating a hit, then they'll bleed to death.

[obsidian ore]

Fyi only 9 stacks are enough to guarantee a free shot, as the stacks are additive on top of base %15 chance

I shoot at 4-5 stacks, most of them proc free ammo

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[obsidian ore]

Aw dangit

[plush estuary]

When you have to reload your gun instead of shooting another 50 free rounds

[obsidian ore]

When the legendary 6 free shots back to back actually hits (monstrosity go bye bye)

[plush estuary]

Does point blank barrage add burn on explosion targets from rumbler?

[obsidian ore]

Unfortunately only on the first shot as 4 stacks

Becus bugged

Same with GG

If we get the thing to properly work

Ogryn becomes god emperor himself

[plush estuary]

I think it's fine

Balancing reasons

To not have burn stacks

[obsidian ore]

Bugs balancing my darktide game

Beautiful

[plush estuary]

Wouldn't be fatshark without it

[grizzled aspen]

"Sah, can we have flamer?"
"We have flamer at home."
The flamer at home: (its gg with pbb fire shots but not bugged)

[obsidian ore]

The heretic looking around as 3 Captains, 2 Chaos Spawns, a Beast of Nurgle and a Plague Ogryn with an entire battalion of professional soldiers lay dead after one particularly big boi chucked 28 grenades without stopping from a one shot launcher:

[copper hawk]

mincraf

https://medal.tv/games/tf2/clips/k8CEIXRp64UN8Rw3e?invite=cr-MSxxTDYsMjA0MjU2ODk0

rare high moments

[jagged cradle]

I forgot that you made me install tf2

[copper hawk]

friend asking u to install a game 2 play w them and u sayin ok u MADE me download that game.. AGAINST MY WILL !!

CICA FUCKED MY WIFE !!!

i should block u where u stand..

[jagged cradle]

Erm actually it was friends plural Tintin wanted me to play with him too

Also you know im over exaggerating

I wanted to play it too

[grizzled aspen]

I would play tf2 again if there still wasn't a horrendous fucking plague of mini sentry engineers every time I wanted to play demoknight.

I loathe mini sentry users

[stable bridge]

pretty happy with how this turned out

[grizzled aspen]

I sense a crash 5min into your match.

(for the drip is very unstable)

(especially when combined with weapon customization)

[bitter anvil]

drum mag boltgun? lmao

[stable bridge]

Y e s

[tame sluice]

stabs you in the gut

[median steeple]

this darktide situation is insane

[stable bridge]

jokes on you its a martyrdom build

shes into that

[tame sluice]

you've already failed at making a zealot build at the "supportive" word

[twin wagon]

Not really

You can buff your teams mental by saying how good they are while going with chargelot

Mental matters shouty

[stable bridge]

mental that mental this

blessed is the mind too small for doubt

[bitter anvil]

become ogryn

[stable bridge]

bingo

[bitter anvil]

Should draft some Cadian soldiers to Havoc on Tertium and not create WarpGate Scandal

[twin wagon]

Welcome back bandit

[acoustic dune]

Bandit did not possess my body

[twin wagon]

There's one way to confirm that, same for Darcypossesion

What do you think about smaul

[acoustic dune]

tf is a barcypossession

[twin wagon]

When an innocent veteran player is possessed by the Darcy spirit still clinging to Darktide

[acoustic dune]

Dude whom would be freaky enough to possess the freak pope

I mean priest