#zealot-class

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hard nexus
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by my hitsquad

atomic fjord
hard nexus
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no

jagged cradle
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I’m kinda partial to snake bites

hard nexus
atomic fjord
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My teeth too weird af

plush estuary
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snakes?

atomic fjord
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For any mouth piercings

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||split tongue so I can do this||

jagged cradle
mighty root
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@hybrid jewel found someone that can match ur freak

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I’m a pure child

atomic fjord
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I’m scared

mighty root
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No piercings or tats

ornate bone
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Tats

mighty root
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I’m actually considering getting face tats

atomic fjord
atomic fjord
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You’re gonna look like a funny ww2 person

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Do not

mighty root
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I’ve been told if I did I’d look like a lil peep wanna be lol

atomic fjord
mighty root
acoustic dune
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the bad version

mighty root
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I just wanted to get them

acoustic dune
hard nexus
jagged cradle
copper hawk
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My chud homonculus son

jagged cradle
hybrid jewel
copper hawk
jagged cradle
copper hawk
jagged cradle
ionic light
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The temptation to run a couple sprint efficiency for thunder hammer

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Dear God

copper hawk
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1 Blocked Message

mighty root
copper hawk
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Green screen school wall

jagged cradle
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I’m too cool

copper hawk
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2 Blocked Messages

jagged cradle
plush estuary
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just shot the camera

obsidian prairie
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Why are you playing as basic bitch blueberry at least be silly colors

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Also you people keep making me want to get it

plush estuary
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nuh uh

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idc what I look like

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just like darktide

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be naked or look homeless

obsidian prairie
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Then be a total eyesore

jagged cradle
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You’re a bad man

obsidian prairie
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so people around you have problems when they look at you

plush estuary
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teleports you with mind

jagged cradle
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Classic ultra marine tech

misty nova
modern lintel
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@copper hawk

tranquil owl
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Looked like a pinhead reference at first glance

jagged cradle
plush estuary
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YEAH

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in pubs rn

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10ish min

jagged cradle
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Alright gives me time to relax

plush estuary
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getting annoyed, something is going on. Cant tell if its my internet or the game

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parries not going off

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no gun strikes

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cant heal

jagged cradle
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Servers have still been acting up so I’m not surprised unfortunately

plush estuary
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boss fight

wary finch
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Game ran fine for me
Ran decapitation twice and the new one once

plush estuary
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@jagged cradle k

heady rapids
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related to connectivity issues and etc

sullen forge
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I love how nothing has changed with the Jank AI interactions and it just makes the game 100x better

heady rapids
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tho personally my game has been working well

sullen forge
copper hawk
twin wagon
sullen forge
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I kid you not this happened like 3 minutes after that

misty nova
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Is that Troy Baker?

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No way right

copper hawk
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G g g g g g guards

quiet tusk
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Dump stat for purgation flamer?

plush estuary
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damage

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its in the guide

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pinned

quiet tusk
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thx

copper hawk
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Nuh uh

plush estuary
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@jagged cradle tf was that mission

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no enemies

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and boss got 1 tapped

jagged cradle
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It was really weird

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I ain’t complaining I have grey weapons

plush estuary
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give me ~5min

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getting a call

jagged cradle
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No problem take your time

hard nexus
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i can’t eeeep

storm elm
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Rate my new Zealot look, just picked this up from Hallowette

hard nexus
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welcome back total war warhammer 3

misty mason
jagged cradle
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Dumb dumb

visual stream
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Putting on lo-fi instead of Powerwolf because I am being forced to play diff 2

hard nexus
copper hawk
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Wire hate me

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Almost as much as Meow ,,

hard nexus
plush estuary
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in mission rn

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cica

jagged cradle
copper hawk
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Im on a mission 2 rn

plush estuary
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nice

copper hawk
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I HATE NIGHT SHIFT !!!

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GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!

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Leadership visited us and offered us donuts

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For whatever rsn ive never been so disgusted by the idea of eating a donut

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Whenever i eat those mfs my stomach kills itself

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Im a fake mp.. i hate coffee and donutz..

plush estuary
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what kind of donuts?

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better not be the evil stomach killer donuts

jagged cradle
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The what?

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Also why didn’t you want to get barreled ainz

plush estuary
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you dont know?

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I saw it

copper hawk
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Looks like a good game 2 play 2 fuck around and be zillay

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ALCOHOL !!! will improve this experience ,,

jagged cradle
copper hawk
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Lmfao no

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Im at work

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I was makin a joke

jagged cradle
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Cmon

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Just leave work

copper hawk
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Srry Unemployteriat i cannot join u

plush estuary
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would they notice 1 less person?

copper hawk
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Yes

jagged cradle
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Toys is more important

copper hawk
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One less sgt soft u know what

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Ghost of Dorn past

jagged cradle
copper hawk
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Ive listened 2 so much fucking Helsreach that like

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Ive had warhammer themed dreams for one, a tangent

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But saying Dorn right then confused me

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Like if Dorn's name wasnt dorn this entire time

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Like my caffeine addled brain thought for a moment i was referring to the Primarch lmfao

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Im cooked

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Monolith..

tranquil saddle
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Looks like I’m back on support zealot duty

copper hawk
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Some1 posted these in the sm2 discord and it makes one wish ,,

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Apparently netease is making a 40k mmorpg

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Hopefully it's not canceled

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I hope i can play as an sororitas or an astartes ,,

spare talon
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its back baybee
bret longsword in oblivion

plush estuary
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no way

hard nexus
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that seems silly

copper hawk
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The dancing titan kinda sold me

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Or knight rather

obsidian prairie
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Dementia

zinc talon
void bison
spare talon
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i just dont have any good spells yet

obsidian prairie
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That’s kinda how you play a Bethesda rpg past a point

spare talon
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so im mostly supplimenting damage spells with a bow lmao

obsidian prairie
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Once your skills max out

spare talon
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i cast physical pierce

void bison
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I like conjuring monsters and skeletons and atronachs

spare talon
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but my actual selected class was spellsword

copper hawk
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Smellsword

zinc talon
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lol what is going on with my contract offers tonight

copper hawk
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Yah.. that tracks..

spare talon
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ive never given a magic build in an elder scrolls game an actual shot cuz i felt so vulnerable

obsidian prairie
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Smite apologist in psyker chat

zinc talon
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I've intentionally stayed away from looking at the oblivion remaster so it can't hurt me if it sucks

obsidian prairie
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Life is hell

spare talon
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so having a mix of both that and melee seems like its a good way for me to actually play with spells and not be a wet rag

zinc talon
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is it just in the skyrim/newer engine?

spare talon
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unforunately

zinc talon
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dawwwwwww so mods will likely be incompatiblew

spare talon
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im running a few minor ones

zinc talon
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not that I held a lot of hope they would transfer over

clever swan
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ue5 is at least 10x better than gamebryo

obsidian prairie
spare talon
zinc talon
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oh snap, like nexus oblivion mods or new ones?

spare talon
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such as leveling and enemy scaling

zinc talon
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good

clever swan
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it has ray tracing!!

zinc talon
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even as a shithead teen I thought that was breaking the immersion

copper hawk
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Is it any good

zinc talon
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bandits at a campfire in glittering glass and ebony armor

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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Oh the difficulty settings are so funny

heady rapids
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oblivion remake is the definition of that meme about remembering what games looked like when you played them as a kid

zinc talon
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right on, it's heartening to see support and authors already hacking away ast it

obsidian prairie
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Player does 1/8th damage enemies do 8x

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(Completely bypassed with summons)

zinc talon
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ah yes, the Bullet Sponge

spare talon
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adept (default) is 1x damage dealt and recieved and its pissbaby mode
expert is 3x damage recieved and .6x damage dealt and every enemy is the final boss in my experience (a dog has torn me to shreds right out of the tutorial)
master is 5x recieved and .2x dealt

zinc talon
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oldest trick in gaming

spare talon
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i modded it to set master to 2x recieved .5x dealt and combat feels good now

clever swan
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if you turned enemy scaling on on witcher 3 a single normal sized rat out of a pack of dozens could kill yo ass

spare talon
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theres already a mod that sets the first sword you gets textures to the infamous aheago image

zinc talon
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heh and it's prolly extra goofy cuz of those single bite/charge/leap attacks the enemies have or at least had in the first one

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that one dog leap gets through your defenses and it's whp THIRDPERSONRAGDOLL

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LOAD~~/SAVE/~~QUIT

misty ravine
spare talon
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i played the original oblivion on the easiest difficulty years ago in high school because i was running it with below minimum graphics (everything was a solid color) by bootlegging a pirated copy to run through wineskin on a school macbook air
so everything was 15 fps and i was playing on a trackpad

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lmao

zinc talon
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a ** trackpad **

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rofl

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those fuckin things

grizzled aspen
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I just watched a psyker (who was really bad) walk backwards into a burster that nobody had touched and blame me for their death.

zinc talon
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I remember trying to play FPS titles on a thinkpad with the little red laptop nipple you had to rub in the middle of the keyboard

grizzled aspen
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Ah, yes, the keyboard titty.

zinc talon
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basically if a joystick got castrated

clever swan
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i was just in a game and i swear my teammates went down like 15 times in total if not more

zinc talon
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console user I suspect

spare talon
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i used a thinkpad in elementary school to type instead of write (dysgraphia acommodations, teachers legit couldnt read my handwriting)
it didnt have a trackpad
it only had the nipple

grizzled aspen
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Anywho being blamed for a team losing when I was the only one not going down and dying nonstop is funny.

zinc talon
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PG13 movies get one Fbomb before they get an R

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a little innuendo, as a treat

void bison
grizzled aspen
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Hey that's my uncle Hubert.

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Always wondered what happened to him.

void bison
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Roundness

zinc talon
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ROTUNNNNDUH

plush estuary
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@jagged cradle ggs

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got a few clips

jagged cradle
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Till next time

plush estuary
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splat splat splat splat

jagged cradle
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I’m glad we had the same idea

plush estuary
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then the barrel

copper hawk
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Buig

stable bridge
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skinwalker zealot

winter furnace
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yes

copper hawk
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Signalis..

frosty herald
analog ember
spare talon
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my day is ruined

plush estuary
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Welp

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Time to learn them

spare talon
plush estuary
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Write a guide

grizzled aspen
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Time for Cole to meticulously learn each and every moveset.

grizzled aspen
spare talon
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thats what that video literally was for

grizzled aspen
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My honest reaction:

jagged cradle
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I don’t think tactical is that fun

copper hawk
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The game generally isnt that fun

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But tactical does have cool drip at prestige iv

jagged cradle
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Idk

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It’s alright

plush estuary
jagged cradle
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Not my favorite

plush estuary
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Max level tactical but level 1 no prestige all others

copper hawk
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Lmfao

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I dont understand ppl who play like that

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Ur brain is fundamentally wired in a way i cant understand,,

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Like ppl who play one class in darktide, have played for years or since closed beta, and haven't max leveled other characters yet

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Dont u get BORED

plush estuary
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I knew a certain zealot that is exactly that

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Level 6k zel

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Then like 28 on other 3

jagged cradle
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I prestiged all my characters so I only have sniper max

plush estuary
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We love you trauma

clever swan
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trauma looks up his name

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he'll see this

plush estuary
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Or I will just tell him

copper hawk
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The dorngrub hivemind

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Tyranids

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Pariah Grubxes

copper hawk
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Shadow in the Discord

jagged cradle
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I’ll probably play more sm2 tomorrow

visual stream
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kill everyone

tame sluice
mint brook
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So i had a crazy decision now, due to some peoples takes

twin wagon
mint brook
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What if until death was basekit but slightly nerfed in cooldown? The issue is it will always be picked by every serious zealot. Bad players will pick it for a second chance and great zealots take it to become unstoppable. And it always takes 1/2 talent points away.

Vet has cover shooting, which is insane

Psyker has a whole mechanic to him

Ogryn is now the super giga tank

Zealot has nothing, so until death would be his to now call his own.

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Why until death basekit? Other than what i mentioned, is that i try to pit other classes rework up to around ogryns level

twin wagon
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Issue us zealot already goes into that part of the tree because duelist

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and the other options kinda stink

twin wagon
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Still no reason to go anywhere else

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Maybe thy wrath be swift

mint brook
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Have you seen my rework yet?

twin wagon
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And that would lead to loner

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Yes!

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But Fatshark will never implement it

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Immeasurably complex Sitgryn

mint brook
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People said that bout ogryn

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And imo, weapon balance is WAY easier on zealot, vet and psyker in a way

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Like for now, i would mainly target class specific weapons, like evisc and flamer

twin wagon
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Yeah but it's Ogryn
Zealot playerbase is... different

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Like the vet playerbase

obsidian prairie
mint brook
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peepo_shrug i say what i said bout ogryn, have faith

mint brook
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It basically shrinks your hit box to a tenth or so if used well

obsidian prairie
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I don’t think there’s been a single occasion where I’ve used it or needed to use it practically

twin wagon
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I wouldn't call it a strong tool, but I've seen vets mitigate enemy fire with cover in Havoc

mint brook
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Like you go from upper toros to barely shoulders

tame sluice
mint brook
obsidian prairie
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Oh right I remember I play a min height vet

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So it barely lets me see anything

twin wagon
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It's Janky currently, the mechanic was made for a time where shooters were big menaces

It also matters veteran height

mint brook
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Yeah i wish they refined the mechanic a litrle

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In all honesty

twin wagon
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My vet is average size so cover barely mitigates fire

obsidian prairie
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I wish they made something people would use instead

mint brook
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But it is more often than not in my experience a god sent

twin wagon
mint brook
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Since it lets you use a LOT more cover in the game efficiently

twin wagon
tame sluice
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I still think it would be cool if they added a heavy stubber for veteran

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and peeking over cover with it removed its recoil and spread

slate owl
tame sluice
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bracing it on the cover y'know

obsidian prairie
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The only scenario I can see it being useful in is high havoc gunfights

twin wagon
obsidian prairie
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Which is not a good place to be for a baked in feature

mint brook
obsidian prairie
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You can just run through or slide spam through gunfire in every other difficulty

slate owl
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doesn't psyker only get faster regen delay

mint brook
slate owl
mint brook
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Unless you wanna see how fast you can hit the floor

mint brook
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But some really dislike that idea

mint brook
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So i try to gage what more players would think about the idea first

slate owl
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zealot needs a tree rework anyway

copper hawk
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They need to increase the spread/decrease the accuracy of torrent enemies

slate owl
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as does veteran

copper hawk
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The non torrent guardsmen (scab shooters) miss w their lasguns but homeless people w scrap autoguns laser you at any range

obsidian prairie
slate owl
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hell, vet needs more than a reorder at this point with havoc

mint brook
slate owl
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true

twin wagon
copper hawk
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Idk if there rlly is anything zealot does significantly better than other classes

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Where's that reddit post that talks about it

mint brook
copper hawk
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It was made by a solo h40 non stealth vet player

obsidian prairie
mint brook
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But thats really it

copper hawk
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Nope

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Damage as well

twin wagon
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His stealth is better than vet because of uptime

copper hawk
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Better damage potential, even when co sidering duelist

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Due to agile engagement

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Better stamina (w 3 stam regen curios, stamina regens on slides)

mint brook
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Ogryn has better base stats for health, vet and psyjer have their own mechanic no one else has, ogryn iirc can dodge into enemies to stagger them

copper hawk
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Better golden tness, better survivability

mint brook
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Zealot doesnt really have a mechanic, he has stats peepo_shrug

obsidian prairie
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I wouldn’t call cover peeking a mechanic on par with peril

slate owl
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more like cope peeking

mint brook
obsidian prairie
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It’s a highly situational and largely unknown tool versus a basic mechanic of a class that is required for good performance

twin wagon
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Just give zealot Titanfall like movement

slate owl
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what does it even do, make your aim reset slightly faster?

twin wagon
mint brook
obsidian prairie
brisk raft
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Imagine if Zealot can vault over Crushers

mint brook
obsidian prairie
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Very few of your engagements outside of havoc are sit down gunfights anymore

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You just charge them

copper hawk
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Ah found it

mint brook
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So i guess i make until death an actual mechanic

copper hawk
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Yes

obsidian prairie
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The pace of the game has increased such that the ability to peek over a crate isn’t needed anymore

copper hawk
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And the health regen

mint brook
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I to zealot base, i will maybe revisit vets peeking mechanic

copper hawk
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Morph them into one thing and make it a passive

mint brook
copper hawk
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Ill settle w UD being by itself

mint brook
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Oh wait

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I have an idea

copper hawk
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Marty requires ud and the hp regen to function

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Because chip damage

frosty herald
copper hawk
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Lets make the keystone that ramps up the clower you are to dying be at just the same danger of dying as any other character because of no chip damage mitigation

mint brook
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I have 2 new nodes, 1 of them is a dead end node, i could maybe make until death not regen but get other benefits implace of it if you pick that one

copper hawk
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Again, imagine if Zealot Saltz in vt2 could take green hp chip damage below 80% temp hp

twin wagon
copper hawk
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Make the character unfun and nigh on nonfunctional fundamentally

slate owl
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remove vet stealth line (right side) and replace with Stormtrooper with a cute little servo skull targeter buddy that follows you around and marks heretics

copper hawk
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Replace zealot shroudfield

frosty herald
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Kill a handful of gunners infiltrate is back

twin wagon
copper hawk
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Lol, lmfao even

twin wagon
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Love dedicated servers

mint brook
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Infiltrate is better at speedrunning

copper hawk
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Where's cole when u need him

obsidian prairie
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Eepy

copper hawk
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He has a clip of him vocinf 4 or 5 times in a row w tactical awareness

obsidian prairie
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It’s like 3 where he’s at

copper hawk
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Vet has a flat bonus issue that's sorta only on his tree

twin wagon
copper hawk
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Flat damage bonuses across the board, tons of them, flat crit chance, flat cdr

twin wagon
frosty herald
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Vet also does a mass surpression when leaving infiltrate

twin wagon
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Suppresion matters when all the enemies are on your team because you agro dumped to speedrun?

jagged cradle
tame sluice
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braced autogun value

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shoot 2 bullets at shooters to immediately get them to fuck off

frosty herald
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You can do like 50% extra damage when leaving infiltrate with 2 talents

mint brook
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Imo, movespeed needs to be removed from stealth or super conditional

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Thats the main issue

twin wagon
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Stealth shouldn't exist.

slate owl
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kill it

mint brook
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Cause not only do you aggro dump, you remove any chance of gaining it back since you are on the other side of the arena

daring kernel
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infiltrate damage was great for farming civis with powersword before bm nerfs, kill 4 crushers in a single hit

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still very busted

twin wagon
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Or better yet

tame sluice
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just make vet infiltrate scriers gaze

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easy fix

twin wagon
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Make infiltrate an aoe stealth smoke bomb

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Similar to ranger veteran bardin

tame sluice
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have it just surround you in smoke like from a smoke grenade

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which would you literally invincible to ranged enemies while it's active

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since they just won't shoot you

twin wagon
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Big toughness regen for allies in smoke similar to bubble

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maybe a self damage boost

daring kernel
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you're just inventing bubble tho

twin wagon
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Bubble sucks needs more hp

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I'm fixing bubble

daring kernel
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zealot chorus should be a bubble that gives the team even more toughness

twin wagon
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idk Chorus seems fine to me sadly because getting rid of Plogryn in Gloriana is funny

daring kernel
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but what if it was also just bubble but yellow toughness

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make insane sustain abilities even better

copper hawk
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Chorus should not be a minute cooldown

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And shouldnt require u 2 take golden toughness

undone pewter
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What fotf should also spawn a bubble where you stop

daring kernel
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what if zealot stealth was just bubble but everyone inside the bubble was stealthed and crit

copper hawk
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What if zealot stealth didn't exist

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This would be Awesome

daring kernel
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But how would speedrunners speedrun the maps in high level havoc

twin wagon
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Remove stealth
Replace Loner woth Lohner

slate owl
daring kernel
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they can't be good it's literally impossible

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I want a giant gate to drop down to lock people in a tiny arena if they pace too hard

hard nexus
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mk3 evis is so terrible and i’m so sad

daring kernel
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but what if the wall was a giant gate

twin wagon
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Boss Walls

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a big fat green wall

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(not BoN)

daring kernel
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Boss wall of nurgle

slate owl
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how about if you pick loner and stealth you just instantly drop dead as soon as the mission starts how about that

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like, unironically

daring kernel
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what if you picked stealth and the game crashed and everytime you chose zealot it would crash

tame sluice
daring kernel
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I want a nurgle thunderdome

frosty herald
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Vt2 has boss walls (i hate bile trolls)

daring kernel
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they should cause corrruption damage when you get near them too, to instill fear

twin wagon
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We really need a modifier that replaces all elites with Ogryns

slate owl
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let's be real, the solo stealth zealot would just kill the boss

daring kernel
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what are the chances that if they did bring in boss walls speedrunners walk straight through them

slate owl
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or glitch out of bounds

twin wagon
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They would just clip you through any surface

frosty herald
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Your forced to kill the boss to progress

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And bosses in havoc spawn a horde alongside them

daring kernel
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You could go pass them in a lot of spots in vt2

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funny bright wizard tech

frosty herald
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Try to go too far back youll trigger the bulwark wall

daring kernel
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I mean flamer go brr on those

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also I don't think you can have a bulwark spawn until the horde is cleared, no?

hard nexus
frosty herald
hard nexus
twin wagon
frosty herald
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Almost thought that was pantsu ripper art

hard nexus
mint brook
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Most likely too strong, but what do you guys think?

stable bridge
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hey guys how do i get a full view of my character in their stance

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cuz like my game crashes at the end of every match

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i wanna get a screenshot of my character in their victory pose

mint brook
stable bridge
#

yeah i do

mint brook
#

Cause that sounds like the scoreboard mod

#

Take it out, i can almost guarantee you thats it

stable bridge
#

alright

mint brook
#

That or update it if there is one

stable bridge
#

gotcha

copper hawk
# mint brook

Still takes chip except ur not healed when u drop to 1 on chip

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Fundamental issue w marty remains

acoustic dune
#

ok hear me out

mint brook
#

Yeah but what would you suggest? Make damage impossible to hp unless toughness is gone? peepo_shrug

acoustic dune
#

psycher
having a chance to spawn ally burster

copper hawk
#

Immune to chip over certain tness percentage depending on marty stacks on top of damage reduction normal to marty stacks

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If an attack would break your toughness in one shot it's reduced

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Eg crusher overhead, sniper shot, etc

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At low hp attacks that would fuck u up w a mistake still fuck u up if u make that mistake

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But getting hit by random enemies, like pwalkers, doesnt pose the same threat as a crusher overhead

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Immune to chip at a certain tness percentage would be it rlly

hard nexus
solar gorge
#

oblibion's remake is so fucking heavy

#

i sure do love the unreal engine 5

twin wagon
#

so some mods are already compatible

#

idk how this dual engine is working atm but it's giving some performance issues

mint brook
#

@copper hawk

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That should fix it peepo_shrug

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Maybe by fire be purged needs to be higher, but it is the general idea

copper hawk
mint brook
#

So, that gonna fix it? peepo_shrug

carmine falcon
modern lintel
delicate shadow
#

that definitely didn't work for myrkul nor death in castlevania

modern lintel
#

did you ever stop to think maybe the scythe just wasnt big enough to satiate their specific needs

mint brook
#

You dont get it

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It fixed their loneliness

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Just not dying kekW

sterile stone
delicate shadow
#

hit me with a warm cuppa (tea or coffee idc) and a nice spot in the sun and I'm right as fuckin' rain mate

sterile stone
#

Added dark chocolate to my cup cause I'm trying to cut sweets

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Christ alive that was such a bad idea

delicate shadow
#

lmao

sterile stone
#

It tasted like I was drinking hard, chalk tasting pudding

delicate shadow
#

yeah you gotta get drinking chocolate, otherwise it won't play nice

sterile stone
#

Side note

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And this might be a bit heresy

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But I added a smidge of the protien milk to my coffee

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Much better

delicate shadow
#

the A2 milk?

sterile stone
#

I wish I kept the carton

#

It's like those little cartons you can twist the cap off

delicate shadow
#

the milk with the extra protein tho yea ikwym

sterile stone
#

Yeah yeah if fucking slaps

delicate shadow
#

yeee it does

#

it's either that or full cream, everything else is awful

#

skim milk gotta be a crime against all that is holy

sterile stone
#

That cheap ass would still buy skim milk when I was a kid

#

But yeah dude the little protien shakes I use

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So many damn flavors

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Think the best one I had was the cinnamon bun one

delicate shadow
#

wild, back when I was workin' out I just had the fuckin' regular ass whey protein powder lol

sterile stone
#

Dude I fell off so damn hard

#

But once I did a few curls

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Waited a bit

#

I felt like I could swing like a fucking baseball bat

delicate shadow
#

yeee just gotta wake u pthe muscle memory

sterile stone
#

Heft behind that uppercut with the speed

sterile stone
delicate shadow
#

dude I miss that shit like crazy

#

and gymnastics tbh but hoo lordy flexibility is so god damn perishable

sterile stone
#

Have you considered the knights fighting thing at renaissance festivals ?

delicate shadow
#

like I'm still decently flexible but there ain't no way I'm doing the shit I used to do, part of that is also to do with aging tbf

sterile stone
delicate shadow
#

tru, I just know if I tried doing any of the stuff I used to be able to do on the pommel horse I will tear my groin muscles lmao, gotta work back up to it

delicate shadow
sterile stone
#

I've been doing what I can to make sure I stay out and social, don't wanna end up as a total hermit

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I goofed last week though

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My boys called me up while I was passed out

#

Missed a chance to hit up a Brazilian steak house

modern lintel
sterile stone
delicate shadow
sterile stone
#

They weren't expecting to like Mediterranean but now they're fiends

modern lintel
#

hard not to like mediterranean food

delicate shadow
#

med and MENA food all the way baybee

#

if it was good enough for the birth of civilization, it's good enough for me

stone fern
#

the further you are from the med sea the worst the food is thats a known fact

delicate shadow
#

that and my grandma would materialise behind me and beat me with a shoe if I ever bad mouthed the cuisine

acoustic dune
delicate shadow
#

fuck no

acoustic dune
#

good

delicate shadow
#

it's delicious and (mostly) healthy

#

I will bad mouth poorly done baklava tho, some places just don't do the pastry right

stone fern
#

ikr i started avoiding it all together

#

and it hurts so much seeing tourists buying the microwaved 5 day old baklava from trashy kabab shops

delicate shadow
#

if you can find places ran by people from the culture that aren't like a chain then odds are it'll be good

#

but places that are chains or offer baklava but aren't specifically a MENA restaurant you're probably getting dry ass baklava

modern lintel
#

i remember helping my brother move into a new apartment and him and my other brother are like oh cole we know this cool dinner place lets go their for lunch i say sure place is called "big als" im imagining big fat Italian man and cold cuts absolutely not its a mediterranean grill

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i lied not mediterranean it was jamaican

delicate shadow
#

jamaican is fire tho

#

carribean food goes hard

modern lintel
#

it was good as hell was absolutely not what i was expecting given the name tho

delicate shadow
#

fair lmao

frosty herald
#

i could see the name being jamaican

stone fern
#

shout out to latin america guava gotta be one of my favorite fruits

hushed knoll
#

Clothes

#

Clad

stone fern
#

hi

hushed knoll
#

NO

#

I MEAN NAMED

north sedge
#

Naked sharquino

delicate shadow
twin wagon
#

Rock missed, hit a barrel

delicate shadow
#

I put on a hazmat suit before I enter this chat

stone fern
#

anyone online that runs solos?

copper hawk
copper hawk
#

Does t60 have radiation protection

twin wagon
#

if I remember correctly lore wise, yes

#

game wise no

#

something something fallout tactics bull

grave cypress
#

crawwwwlliinnngg innnnn my skiinnnn

rain knoll
#

damn shreder autopistol gun is goat

#

quickwork for dreg rager , easy suppress group of heavy gunner

stone fern
devout stone
#

this filter feels like a fever dream 😵‍💫

grave cypress
#

just wish its ammo eco was a little better

hidden mural
grave cypress
#

old commodore vestures from ages ago

hidden mural
#

Do they ever come back

grave cypress
#

Yes but lots of people will tell you no because of how long it takes KEKW_ogryn

hidden mural
#

Got it, thx

heady rapids
undone pewter
#

It took a long time for someone to actually answer the question

copper hawk
placid fiber
candid shuttle
#

HOLY SHIT

#

CAVALCADE SHREDDER AUTOPISTOL IN MORTIS IS GOATED??

placid fiber
#

I mean why wouldn't it be with the death dealer spec?

candid shuttle
#

It's literally the free shot crit

placid fiber
#

Yeah

#

death dealer spec

candid shuttle
#

And the 25% crit chance extra

#

I forgot how much was it

#

More crit chance if you're on the first 25% of your clip

#

Totals 83% with Piety

placid fiber
#

with piety that can be a base 55% crit chance before cavalcade kicks in

candid shuttle
#

I am fucking shredding hordes

#

My shredders damage dump btw

#

That's how I got it

placid fiber
#

Rip

candid shuttle
#

And tear

placid fiber
#

Considering it has 2 dump stats

candid shuttle
#

Well I want the mobility and the suppression

placid fiber
#

and damage affects unarmored and infested damage

candid shuttle
#

That's it

placid fiber
#

and damage itself

#

which affects ttk

#

You're using a pre-buff shredder

#

damage isn't the dump stat on any weapon besides the flamer

#

oh and btw the stagger makes it harder to deal damage since enemies fly off their feet out of your crossheir >.>

humble dome
#

average loner stealth zealot . Ready for duty

placid fiber
#

Kinda sad that 1 extra talent point grabs you benediction and a 15 toughness talent >.>

mint brook
#

Tried to work more on martyrdom, i ended up going more back to form

grizzled aspen
#

Get rid of martyrs call.

mint brook
#

Also, base zealot:
stun nade from 8m, to 12m
Toughness from 70, to 100

grizzled aspen
#

Rule #1, healing talents are to affect you and you only.

mint brook
#

I want to cause for until death to not heal you anymore but give another ecfect implace

grizzled aspen
#

Also these fire talents should not be keystone exclusive.

carmine falcon
#

legit just keep until death the way it is lol

grizzled aspen
#

Just make it the two existing nodes + until death as base functionality + holy rev as an aux node.

carmine falcon
#

i do not get what's everyone's issue with it out of all the talents

grizzled aspen
#

There is no way to balance it.

carmine falcon
#

longer cooldown

grizzled aspen
#

That's a bandaid fix.

mint brook
grizzled aspen
#

Everyone is still going to take it.

grizzled aspen
carmine falcon
#

lock it to a keystone and that keystone will be picked 100% over the rest

mint brook
#

Why is it horrible? 🤔

grizzled aspen
#

There are a lot of people that would rather not play martyrdom.

grizzled aspen
carmine falcon
#

i know for sure ill be taking whatever keystone it has Haha
surviving a funny overhead or doing a suicide rush is far important for me than literally anything else

placid fiber
#

putting it on a keystone is a bandaid fix as well

grizzled aspen
#

It really isn't.

placid fiber
#

kind of is, because people who want it will take it anyway

#

You're not fixing the problem, just pushing it to the side

grizzled aspen
#

All it would mean is a significantly larger number of martyr noobs.

#

Good players don't need UD to be good.

#

UD is just meta pathing, and always will be until it is moved.

placid fiber
#

Path it to loner then

carmine falcon
#

i dont need UD to be good but i like having a talent like this on the class where im expected to frontline with my melee

grizzled aspen
#

Putting it under death cult assassin doesn't make sense.

carmine falcon
#

if u want a hard balance nerf just make it like iron will from drg
you have ONE singular use of it and u have to be smart about it

placid fiber
#

UD has been a zealot key thing ever since launch, how does making it marty only make it good? Marty getting a special effect with it makes sense, but, it was never based on marty

grizzled aspen
#

The purpose is to get it out of standard pathing.

#

It is and always will be the best possible pathing while it remains in the standard tree.

placid fiber
#

Sure, and one fix is putting holy revenant in marty. Making until death leave you at 1hp

#

good or not, 1hp does not give you wiggle room

grizzled aspen
#

Put the entire functionality of it into martyrdom at that point then.

placid fiber
#

I still think it could be a base feature, since it used to be a base feature... and guess what: without holy rev, it didn't do much for you

carmine falcon
#

it doesnt do much with holy rev if you're shit at the game anyway

#

you'll get clapped 5 seconds later

placid fiber
#

Yep

carmine falcon
#

its why i dont get the obsession with it

carmine falcon
#

good players will do good with or without
Bad players will get clapped with our without Haha

placid fiber
#

^

carmine falcon
#

zealot drop like flies in my games

placid fiber
#

Forcing it on a keystone just removes player choice

mint brook
#

My issue is more what it does in general

grizzled aspen
#

As I said, meta pathing is meta.

carmine falcon
#

the only fix is limiting its usage its that simple really
just make it have 1 or 2 charges

#

boom

mint brook
#

Bad players kinda het a free pass every few minutes, good players break the damn thing in two

placid fiber
#

It's going to be moved anyway, with what void is doing

#

Moving it to a keystone is just a bandaid fix "I don't want players to have it" slaps bandaid by moving it to marty

grizzled aspen
#

How else are you going to limit the amount of people that take it?

mint brook
#

You have seen my change to martyr right?

mint brook
#

Like you both got great points

grizzled aspen
#

Limiting the number of times it activates or having a significantly longer cooldown is just going to make it shite.

#

Especially considering a random chaff can proc it when you aren't paying attention.

placid fiber
#

but removing player's choice makes it a good way? By forcing people who take piety and ij to not have it whether or not they agree?

grizzled aspen
#

So without completely lobotomizing it as a talent, putting it behind a keystone is the only way to limit the number of people using it, and martyrdom is the only one that works as a limiting keystone.

placid fiber
#

Bandaid

grizzled aspen
#

Piety and IJ don't revolve around being on low hp.

#

You don't need UD on them.

placid fiber
#

You don't need until death to begin with, so forcing it on a keystone just is stupid

grizzled aspen
#

Agree to disagree then.

carmine falcon
#

hey let them focus on UD maybe they'll forget about invoc Haha

mint brook
#

Okay lemme ask you, i wann ask neutral questions

grizzled aspen
#

There are 3 ways of making it not meta pathing.

nerfing it into the ground with a longer cooldown/limited number of activations
locking it behind a keystone
removing it from the game entirely

placid fiber
#

I'd say a longer cd until death would be better, 120s is WAY too short

grizzled aspen
#

Of the 3 choices, mine is the best.

carmine falcon
#

longer cd or limited charges

#

i mentioned a perfect example

mint brook
#

what makes ud a must on my martyrdome? I kept its strength arguably equal, if not better, however at a lower wound tax, meaning more hp per wound

placid fiber
#

120s until death, whether marty or not, is busted

grizzled aspen
#

UD is a safety net for when your hp is that low.

mint brook
#

Ignore martyrs call, its op potentially

grizzled aspen
mint brook
#

Chip damage cant kill you anymore tho

grizzled aspen
#

The damage you receive is going to down you regardless.

#

Let's say you're at like 20hp at 90% toughness. A standard crusher/mauler hit (not an overhead) is going to down you.

mint brook
#

What is the exact damage of that again?

grizzled aspen
#

I dont know off the top of my head but 10% of the damage they deal is what hits your hp, and that is enough to down you at 20hp.

mint brook
#

What if it KINDA worked like gold toughness when above a certain toughness threshold?

#

Meaning you could eat a hit?

grizzled aspen
#

That's a terrible idea.

mint brook
#

What if the damage is instead reduced to a set value?

grizzled aspen
#

That leans even further into the toughness generation spam you almost goofed with when you made a change to voice of terra.

grizzled aspen
#

Let me explain my design philosophy for zealouts tree in a single phrase.
It should be strong, but not noob friendly.

mint brook
#

What i am saying is that martyrdome clearly tells you that your toughness is now your gate instead of health, so i am trying to build around that

grizzled aspen
#

Noob friendly involves removal of game mechanics and leaving in overpowered talents like UD for standard choice.

placid fiber
#

So you want noobs to go play vet instead?

grizzled aspen
#

Yes.

#

Or ogryn.

placid fiber
#

"Great" way to fix stuff... make them play another class

mint brook
#

But, that kinda goes fundamentally against game design

grizzled aspen
#

Vet still needs another overhaul but ogryn is quite noob friendly and strong now.

tame sluice
grizzled aspen
#

^^^

placid fiber
#

And fuck anyone who doesn't have that level

grizzled aspen
#

High skill floor, higher skill ceiling.

tame sluice
#

Brother that is how videogames work

#

Why the fuck do you think Malice is the most played difficulty?

grizzled aspen
mint brook
#

Let me explain you game design, we basically always try to make a class available, not matter how bad one player is, preferably, joe that work a 9/5 and makes minimum wage income can play it, but pros can farm clips/flex their skill if they want to!

grizzled aspen
#

80% of the player base is malice locked.

tame sluice
#

Why do you think Scrier's Gaze has such shit usage rates that Fatshark keeps buffing it every other patch

#

Despite it being the most busted shit in the universe?

grizzled aspen
#

80% of the player base thinks they need chorus in malice.

mint brook
tame sluice
#

and they gigabuffed crack of bone too

mint brook
grizzled aspen
placid fiber
#

something that has been there since day 1 >.>

grizzled aspen
#

Know that I am not of the opinion that zealout deserves strictly buffs or nerfs, individually. Getting rid of until death from standard picking is necessary for restructuring the tree in a way that is healthy for balance.

mint brook
#

I think of it that way, the game should be sorta balanced around havoc, look at ogryn, he fucks at havoc, bad player get to enjoy him tons, and let us be honest, if then havoc is too easy if everyone is around his level, fs would just slap 10 new levels on havoc peepo_shrug

mint brook
grizzled aspen
#

Likewise, other talents would take UD's place, and other talents would be buffed to make up for it.

placid fiber
#

until death is just a bandaid

grizzled aspen
#

Shrapnel rumbler with fire explosions is insane.

placid fiber
#

until death would have to have a 30s or less cd to reach ogryn tankiness levels

mint brook
#

Shrapnel rumbler is just … wow

#

One bomb and the horde is gone kekW

grizzled aspen
#

Also afaik club slap doesn't have a cleave limit so you can spam the shit out of it and kill everything with batter.

placid fiber
#

and yet... despite these things until death being noob friendly is your problem

grizzled aspen
#

I never said I liked ogryn as he is now.

mint brook
carmine falcon
#

until death is removed and now u need to be prime S!mple to play darktide

grizzled aspen
#

I never said I am ok with how strong he is.

carmine falcon
#

epic victory royale

placid fiber
#

even though until death literally does nothing for survival unless you are good

mint brook
#

Ogryn imo is mostly fine, but they ought to nerf the first nodes for toughness replenishment, or put a cooldown on some of them

#

Or in general, nerf mk3 club

#

Basically, rn, as long as you reach your enemy, you are basically unkillable

lean lark
#

I've heard enough. 20% rending to everyone. Rebuff assail.

mint brook
#

Imo, darktide should be fun till you hit auric where it needs to start becoming challenging

placid fiber
#

My arguement is removing until death or forcing you to take a keystone if you want it removes some of that fun

#

since it removes player choice

mint brook
#

Finding a middle ground there is difficult

placid fiber
#

I'm on team nerf the cd on it

#

120s is busted

#

like dude, 120s is no time at all

#

if you're good

mint brook
#

Lets not forget, every class has a key feature, vets just needs an update

#

Zealot has none

placid fiber
#

and until death has been zealot's key feature pretty much since day 1... even when they moved it to the talent tree

mint brook
#

Which is why i decided to maybe put until death into base

#

I mean, it needs nerfs

placid fiber
#

Yes

#

like 240s at least on the cd

mint brook
#

A missions is on average, what, 30 minutes?

placid fiber
#

or at least 180s... 120s allows a 30 minute mission to have it proc 15 times

mint brook
#

I would go harder honestly

placid fiber
#

300s is vt2's cd on it

mint brook
#

Id say 5 minutes cd

placid fiber
#

iirc

grizzled aspen
carmine falcon
#

u fix meta pathing by making other options enticing aka ogryn new tree Haha

mint brook
placid fiber
#

Yep

mint brook
#

Especially in havoc

placid fiber
#

1 sniper clipping you, a barrel, a burster

mint brook
#

Like 5 minutes in havoc you killed probably multiple platoons

placid fiber
#

120s is just insane

mint brook
#

Also, that way, since it went from 2 minutes, to 5 monutes, i think it would be a strong nerf

#

Thats a 150% increase

placid fiber
#

and a much more balanced feature

#

it's literally 5m in vt2

#

iirc

#

let me check

mint brook
#

For ver, i would honestly give him HEAVY damage reduction while taking cover and a slew of gun handling buffs

placid fiber
#

no

mint brook
#

Cause cover is neat, but not ogryn pushes enemies on dodge good

placid fiber
#

it's 120s in vt2

#

I swear it used to be 300s

mint brook
#

I meant vet

placid fiber
#

I was answering my thing

mint brook
#

Oh okay, oops

placid fiber
#

Zealot's base feature(In vt2) IS cheat death... at 120s... when temp health is taken first

mint brook
#

Tbf

#

Zealot in vt2 has WAY less insane shit

placid fiber
#

that's busted >.>

mint brook
#

But he is basically unkillable

#

If kitted well

placid fiber
#

Yep

twin wagon
#

idk

#

vt2 zealot gets thp very fast

mint brook
#

Yup

placid fiber
#

even more so with the healing increase

mint brook
#

Thats why i made by fure be purged

#

You basically gain 100% toughness replenishment

#

All sources

#

As i said, i will not be nerfing martyrdome more of a sidegrade

#

Now is the question tho

#

What to do about martyrs call

placid fiber
#

I mean... healing your allies and not healing yourself is rough with chip damage

mint brook
#

What if allies had your martyrdome effects for the duration of until death, but it no longer healed you?

placid fiber
#

The longer healing you thing is the part that will get everyone killed and make people avoid it

mint brook
placid fiber
#

Even with removing chip damage that is kinda rough

mint brook
#

Until death heal is no longer meant to be mandatory on martyr but a secondary safety net

#

So if it is still rough, i didnt reach my goal

#

What if martyrdome came with extra toughness or baseline toughness damage reduction? 🤔

placid fiber
#

extra toughness doesn't prevent chip

#

Maybe make it increase toughness and reduce holy revenant healing by half?

mint brook
#

I know but the whole “chip damage hits toughness instead” should prevent that no?

placid fiber
#

I mean... making it golden toughness kind of feels like a bandaid fix

#

it doesn't solve the issue, it just circumvents it

mint brook
#

It it golden toughness tho? I mean it doesnt have the gate that gold toughness has, which i think is the main issue

placid fiber
#

I mean... it could work, but, idk

mint brook
#

Here is an idea

placid fiber
#

It would be like temp hp then

mint brook
#

Ontop of the chip removal

#

For each wound you have (meaning each wound curio as well) you gain 20 toughness

mint brook
placid fiber
#

that's a lot of power

#

I'd say like 5 toughness per wound myself >.>

#

cause 20 is up to 120 in damnation

mint brook
#

Only 5? I mean that’d be 25 total but yeah

placid fiber
#

oh right you're removing the bonus wounds

mint brook
#

Yup

tranquil saddle
#

What curios you run on support zealot?

placid fiber
mint brook
#

Cause it was only used on a single build

mint brook
placid fiber
mint brook
#

Like at 3 wounds lost, you can apply 3 stacks per hit

mint brook
placid fiber
#

dots are not really consistent to begin wtih

placid fiber
tranquil saddle
#

Tripple tough?

placid fiber
#

that or 2 toughness and 1 hp/stamina

placid fiber
#

You're also immensely weakening some weapon's damage

elfin thorn
# tranquil saddle What curios you run on support zealot?

my guess is either triple tough or 2 tough 1 stam
support zealot means bringing chorus yeah?
the stam could help secure a revive a bit more and just general improvement (i don't typically run it)
having more tough is also just as cool

elfin thorn
#

if you're partaking crits to spam ability off cooldown, i don't think 4% ability regen would provide too much value for perks 🤔

placid fiber
#

even without that the cdr from 3 4% perks are almost never worth it

#

since it takes the place of 3 better perks

mint brook
placid fiber
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most people would just prefer more damage

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8?

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placid fiber
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That's what it currently has with +2 wounds

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i mean 8 stacks is … a lot!