#zealot-class
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Axes rely on oneshot breakpoints on certain enemies that are either unattainable or too hard to achieve to function because brutal momentum is a must have blessing.
Simply put, their cleave is too low to function well without oneshot breakpoints, and said breakpoints are thrown out the window in havoc.
i will stick to my crusher then
at least enemies are staggered even if they dont die
Crusher is good.
Now, a weapon that can function despite its abysmal carapace adm is heavy sword.
im using the heavy sword too
It does enough damage to meet the breakpoints axes can't and has deathblow to mulch hordes.
You just can't kill carapace with it.
You'd have to run chastise or rely on your teammates to kill carapace.
i spam the special attack
good
At least, in the measure that havoc spams crushers.
I played a 37 yesterday and I kept a count of 23 crushers in a row.
my havoc level is still quite low
Shouldve been 50 crushers
never been so happy and so mad at a friend b4
If I didn't have a branx ogryn next to me I likely would've died.
Happens
Mhmm.
one of the few times a branx ogryn is a welcome sight am I right?
If not boltgun then pen flames flamer.
he kept doing enough burst dmg with dueling sword to re-shield the captains as i'm charging up the thunder hammer to get my big swing in 😂
i dont like the flamer much
The funny part is that he is likely doing more damage than you.
120% rending + finesse bonuses on a stationary target? Say less.
flamer is awesome, but, I rarely have a weapon that I feel like I need it on...
Then boltgun it is.
i think he does slightly more per hit, tho we at least pop captains in like 4 hits which is good enough for me if one of us is busy handling horde
Boltgun will also allow you to suppress groups of shooters quite well so your team can advance.
can i use this with inexorable judgment instead of matyrdom?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ea39e3a-6704-44fc-8de8-2e1382492478/incendiary-juggernaut
job gets done, but damn is it sad hitting a special thammer blow on void shield and it does nothin lol
(never thought I'd be recommending boltgun as a suppression weapon but here we are)
That build is terrible, gimme a second.
im just following the crit heavy sword build that got posted a while ago
The flamer alone is enough to make me gag.
Oh actually nvm use that build with flamer then.
Or boltgun, doesn't matter.
im using laspistol on it
This sucks
dear god that flame thrower
I know that's Cica's build and he actually knows what he's doing unlike 99% of gameslantern "buildmakers."
that flamethrower getting real hot 🔥
Like dear god that build sucks
But yeah just rock that hsword piety build with either a boltgun or flamer and chorus and youll be alright.
i dont use flamethrower anyway
who up fannin' they flames,,,,
nice
The crusher would use ij instead of piety with backstab cdr.
this is not really that good https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e067b20-9b35-4a05-b792-cdbf16a44d13/stophammer-time
you can swap out the melee and ranged weapons here
It's the same exact setup as your crit build, but less expensive.
oh wait you wanted ij
Coping
i want chorus too
I load into a wave 3
either inexorable judgment or piety it doesnt matter to me
He wants chorus and it's for havoc.
im guessing the eviscerator is cooked too
damn im out
You got trapped and in a fit of rage you closed the game
bitch you literally wish
@winter oxide
I've had so many messages the gif works for
thanks
If you want you can run a stamina curio but I would recommend x3 of those toughness curios.
only needed the talent path
Finally some good fucking food
The best part about doing chorus is that you can afford to grab purge without sacrificing other talents.
thoughts on the quickdraw stub revolver?
Not good for havoc.
ok
Kinda wondered that, with how it relies on some breakpoints
Needs oneshot breakpoints zealout struggles to attain.
Vet can run it with relative ease.
Psyker can too if using dd.
im going to use the laspistol with this build
That's fine because your melee can kill carapace.
misses 5 shots in a row
headshots the 5 1/3rd hp enemies in a row afterwards

I have missed 5 shots in a row with it a couple times lol
Well, vet gets talents like precision strikes, superiority complex, bring it down, and so on, and has weapon specialist to guarantee a crit or focus target to absolutely dumpster something.
my aim is just that bad
what about shredder autopistol?
I wouldn't take that into havoc
You will never get accepted into a lobby with that thing.
you will
Like it's fun to use and isn't completely gimping yourself in aurics but most pubbers aren't going to allow you the chance to prove yourself with it.
Notice I didn't say it was bad.
ive been playing my builds and no one is really stopping me
Even when used well it still feels badge sometimes
Autopistol is stupid on scriers
How is it with piety?
Are they? Martyrdom is a lot of damage
autopistol + cavalcade(however u spell that) + crits cost no ammo in mortis trials + +25% crit piety:
Read the message above that.
"Too hard to achieve."
By that I mean being on low hp is a bad idea.
Forgot cavalcade was a perk for it tbh
if ur a bitch
Sorry I play gun psyker. I forget that some people balk at the idea of dying in one hit
I run martyrdom with backstab cdr with chorus in havocs.
It's funny when the psyker has more toughness than you.
Mfw 81 toughness:
Also, martyrdom enjoyers in havoc, have yall noticed some enemies not doing their proper damage?
I ate a burster yesterday at full hp and toughness and he didn't do any hp damage.
so shredder autopistol just does too little damage?
if you have gold toughness they do that
Shredder does a lot of damage to maniacs specifically
And on crits
Like half its total damage output is in its finesse modifier
If it doesn't crit it just doesn't kill things
My chorus was still on cooldown and I was the only one with a golden toughness source.
so why is the shredder autopistol not good in havoc?
Ammo hungry and doesn't kill things fast enough.
It is fast though.
I'll give it that.
I need to try a cavalcade build with death dealer and full crit piety
in mortis trials
Do it with agrivolver...
I don't have a revolver on my zealot
Put 34 rounds through your 5 round cylinder.
I've been using it in havoc on gun psyker
Admittedly only up to havoc 30 at the moment
I saw cole do that
But it does put in work
It's a very convenient pocket rager remover to have, and the high suppression, sprint while firing, and good mobility makes it great for running up to shooter squads to melee them
Every havoc I've played up to 30 was like baby's first auric but after that it's like the ai director laced up his ass stomping boots and put their namesake to work directly on my teeth.
Wait they baked in run and gun???
I haven't used it in a live lobby yet, only tested in psyk to see if it wasn't actually completely unusable like it was before.
It's better than it used to be
Tell Bandit that Frog thinks they stink.
Oh yeah for sure it's a lot better, just playing around with it in the psyk showed me that.
crits and weakspot hits are so much better
the damage helps too
I still say use inspiring barrage on it
Since that's a side utility of it
dude i just woke up
do it yourself
yeah
I forgot they did that
Erm, shit your pants?
choose south africa region (press [e] on the terminal screen), choose any low-difficulty mission and get it with bots in 10 minutes
This fuckin guy...
you pants pooper
🙄
Yeah I use blaze away+inspiring barrage on it for my psyker
it has saved my life so many times
Personally I think for the mortis trials cavalcade and inspiring is the way to go, for the death dealer specialty(with piety)
otherwise yeah blaze away and inspiring
True
bruh
If I had a $20 for every dooming mouth breather that insisted trump was instilling martial law in the states bc it was that birthday today
Well I'd be fucking rich
if I had $20 for every mouth breather I've met... I've have like $40
damn air quality bust be great in your region
what is it with randoms and wasting ammo crates. i almost wish they'd redesign how ammo crates work cuz of it
hungry
Oh, mechanics question.
When attacks cleave, how does that work with crit?
Does crit just roll for the first hit then if it crits, nothing else will crit?
Does crit just roll for the first hit then if it crits, the rest of the swing will crit?
Does crit roll independently for every hit?
the whole attack is a crit
so every enemy will take crit damage
for example, scourge will apply bleed to every enemy hit when you crit
Okay cool. That's a nice balance. Invoc would be even more turbo broken if every hit independently rolled crit aha
in its current iteration, invocation of death isn’t affected by how often you crit, as long as it’s once every 4 seconds
however
original invocation of death was 1.5s removed from your cooldown with each crit, no cooldown
yeah but you could still have like. 5% crit and have nearly permanent uptime cause you'd get more spaced out opportunities to crit.
so weapons like dclaw could cleave a horde and get chastise up instantly after using it
Yeah I saw a clip someone posted of charging, doing a swing with a big cleave weapon and getting it back up literally immediately
yarp
yeah true
I think you could keep invoc at 200% but nerf piety by not resetting the duration on any kill
better watch out, meow, using any mods = cheats #general-chat message
did you know that rumbler can apply 8 stacks of brittleness with direct hit + explosion as of ogryn patfch
fun...........
shattering impact my beloved.....
low quality uncropped 
blame bandit
minecraft on vulcan..........
everything is gonna get fucked over
cause that's gonna be a completely different rendering engine
you'd have to remake everything to support it
Those are third part shaders right?
we already have a mod that replaces opengl with vulcan and its incompatible with everything basically
yeah small issue
they all use the same code
but the performance gains are just
incomparable to anything that exists currently
lol
but for mod lovers its gonna be a shitty situation where some things you like are porbably gonna get left behind
i mean
its always mojoang fault
some modders are still clinging onto 1.12 and dont wanna update their shit!!!!
bruh i dont get it
mojang is always refactoring code and optimizing shit so its really hard to imagine what the game would've played like if they just
didnt
minecraft gets meaningful patches that improve the game and people refuse the update
yeah idk man
skyrim gets SLOP updates that brick the game and people keep riding bethesda and update every time
evil roaring bird, fucked up evil kevin
there's not a feature that gets added that people wont bitch about lol
new spawn eggs and ghasts
Hi yog
people bitch!!!


but mojang has been doing quality content updates for the past
year
after they abandoned mob vote
Minecraft fans when Mojang updates QoL improvements the game
Minecraft fans when Mojang adds mob reskins
Minecraft fans when Mojang does anything
minecraft modding scene is a fucking battlefield
i still have no idea what the dominant modloader is
i thought it was fabric but its neoforge now apparently?
the 7 billion mod loaders
i'll check the news next week and it's gonna be fabric again
Id say just use modrinth
i still have no clue what quilt is
they added fireflies...........
and then removed them iirc right
btw
I'm starting to think
maybe the crashes are caused by portrait rendering
no no
at first they planned on adding fireflies
then said na
and they recently readded them in some form
they're pumping out content like crazy rn
that tree guy, leashes rework, ghasts, whatever else there is
vibrant visuals
its cool, just it leaves a sour taste after them adding a mob and then scrapping it
Also look new biome with an actual threat in it
I'll give them that
That and the wood looks nice
a... flaming bush?
yeah its pretty good & nice for redstone
those are fireflies
thats some weird ass babie noise
YOu missed the party in gen chat
what happened
Someone tried to argue using any mod means your a sniffler and you suck or w/e if you use them, realize they're wrong, and try to pass it off as trolling
Dude the fact my other friends literally said that few minutes ago LMAO
mass hysteria
this is not his alternative account
I did not expect puncture to outperform cavalcade for killing monstrosities on a boltgun
bleed hurts
this is what ive been using but i thought i might be able to tweak it a bit better for monstrosities.
I'm not going to full on drink the kool aid though and replace carapace with something like crit damage just to squeeze out a bit extra monstrosity damage
if you time it right you can kill a weakened BoN with under a full mag with puncture
I assume there's not going to be anything better than the bolter for big burst damage on a monstrosity
In terms of ranged weapons*
on zealot
Tinkers Construct need an update
It’s my favorable mods so far
Technically cavalcade does better.
This is hearsay, though. I'm trusting Path's numbers more than anything.
I slapped a plogryn in meat grinder and mag dumped into his head with this, then the same thing but replace puncture with cavalcade, and i saw more damage with puncture
Path does seem to know his shit
Hence the "technically" part.
The raw damage boltgun delivers is higher with cavalcade, but if you're mag dumping bosses, by the 4th shot you've stacked max bleed, and that, alone, puts puncture ahead.
i havent been able to find a resource with exact descriptions on how bleed works (down to exact damage numbrs)
so i really dont know whats going on
There should be a dmg table in pins for bleed and burn
Zealouts
I have made a zealot internet account
Its tumlr
And im just cooking
If i get bored
what is the havoc 40 meta for zealot in group?
If you can tell me it by heart youll make me squirm
But get me up the havocs
Yes please
I use the comfy build to farm mostly
My zealout is the one thats like
Nun but shes abbit fucky
Full support role zeslot and i know the good build
@formal locust
If you let me cook
I will
Cok
Cook
Furry wh40k spotted
what is the havoc 40 meta for zealot in group?
Going a crit knife build with chorus + flamethrower
that was a while ago when i tried ij
Relic crit with fury or chorus
Relic blade, flamer, piety, chorus or chastise depending on group needs.
It’s in pins, there you’ll find combos with all weapons
Relic blade takes flak unarmored (other perks do not change breakpoints afaik, this is solely for cleaving through loads of chaff and actually killing them) cranial wrath, flamer takes flak elites or flak unyielding with blaze away overpressure.
rampage wrath is also a fine choice
If you’re going into havoc do carinal wrath
what are u talking about
Unarmored actually having a use because of rampaging moebians is crazy.
is dump damage on flamer still?
yarp
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dab97d4-e787-41b6-a116-d802b6166d19/medic-3?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button this is chours If you want fury you can just switch it over
or mobility
Every zealot here is a good zealot
Like idc what build you use
Just zealot
Its like a zealot polycule
But silly
zealots in the zealot channel
If you pick this class i like you
relic blade fotf zealot 😋
Drop good balance for until death and you’ll have zealots meta build
And take the point out of desperation to
Things that are unarmored.
Hope this helps.

the fact that he's serious too
am i supposed to be doing the most damage on my team if i have the crusher?
I don't think you're supposed to be doing the most damage with any weapon
Dreg gunners shotgunners and unarmored horde
if it happens that you are doing the most damage, great
Dreg gunners and shorgunners, but not their torsos
Unarmored bits of chaff (but not infested chaff)
And iirc scab shotgunner faces, but not their helmets
What build are you using?
why dance of death with flamethroew?
I mean there is a guide in the pins that explains armor areas and types for enemies + knify has been around for a good while and should know what is and isn't unarmored.
skullcrusher slaughter with chorus and inexorable judgment
It’s to get thy wrath be swift
thy wrath be swift
it's a connector to twbs
@mighty root
wasted point to get to thy wrath be swift 💔
@hard nexus@placid fiber and that perk is worth it?
It's a quality of life thing
yarp
it’s optional
hm
You have to take dance of death to grab twbs and good balance.
I feel like twbs is needed w/ flamethrower so you dont have to keep redoing the fuckin right click every time you get hit
yes that is your build
Also nothing else is worth taking with that 3 points you would otherwise save if you didn't take those 3 talents.
Do fury instead of chours
my teammates always complain if i dont take chorus
That should help
why not holy rev and until death tho?
Your teammates are bad then lol.
If they need chours to stay alive they need help
Chorus is def not necessary for havoc anymore.
im in a few groups already and they keep asking for book cuz they need to stay alive
Especially with shooters getting their bursts toned down and final toll being a modifier.
if your teammates are nothing without chorus then they shouldn't have it
It’s so I can take good balance on crit but If you like until death you just gotta drop good balance
Final toll makes enemies immune to cc abilities like chorus or smite.
chorus stock value dropping into the negatives 💔
Being yellow is good
Honestly it's a welcome change because I get to watch smitekers in low havoc lobbies get evaporated by a rager they could tickle with their melee and kill.
true
Finally got zealot master of war, now what?
im always like 3rd or 4th in the dmg chart when i use crusher
i think im just bad with it
@winter oxide My bad it’s so I can take sustained assault
crusher aint about the damage really
Here's the litmus test to knowing whether or not you're using it right. How often are you using your special attack?
it's moreso about ragdolling the living fuck out of every nonboss enemy in the world
You probably won’t out damage oggy or psyker as zealot
What
i use it for crushers and maulers
Then you're using it wrong.
Das silly
?
where is good balance
how do i use it?
The special exists to stagger things and give skullcrusher value.
Use it on lots of things.
thank
i mean i use the special when its a mixed horde
special light to get them on the ground
Crusher is less about killing things in one shot like hammer or relic blade is, it's more about making sure everything is on the floor, has skullcrusher stacks, and can't fight back.
but i dont really use the special for bosses
Beside thy wrath be swift but also I don’t have it in that build so drop those points to get sustained assault
Yeah the special is useless on bosses because you can't stagger them without abilities.
yeah thats what ive been doing
thats exactly what i did
Just h1 l2 loop the boss until it dies or pay attention to other things like specialists so your teammates can breathe in peace while fighting the boss.
thats the combo i use for bosses
I have unironically been ignoring bosses unless they're actively trying to eat my face in my havocs recently because my teammates do not snipe specialists.
so its fine being 3rd or 4th with the crusher?
Honestly the scoreboard for havoc doesn't really matter as long as you can clear without being on the floor.
Like it's nice to be 1st in damage but that doesn't matter if your team dies.
only time im 1st is when my teammates die a lot
so im supposed to drop the book
and use the dash instead
@grizzled aspen@mighty root what curios and perks? toughness 3 toughness 3 combat ab 3 etc?
Don't ask fyrestone, hes icky and uses weird stuff that nobody else uses. 🚬
good meme
3 of these or 2 of these and 1 stamina curio.
I do gunner res, stam regen, sprint efficiency
Don't bother doing a sniper resist, havoc snipers will down you anyway.
Don't bother with hp either.
oh i know, im swapping to zealot because im tired of losing
gunner resist, health, toughness for the perks
Also curio cdr sucks.
With 2 toughness and 1 stam
been stuck at havoc 26 for a week
this is my other crusher build
12% cdr is like 3.4 seconds shaved off and that eats 3 curio perk slots.
i guess its bad because of no knockback resist?
cdr?
It's less than ideal because no duellist (half your damage) and crusher has poor dodges and you don't have IJ.
Dis kinda silly, crits not terrible on the cursher because of the push attack
i forgot where i got this from
The combat ability regen perks on your curios and talents that make abilities come back faster are referred to as cdr.
Curio cdr is terrible and is a noob trap.
looks like that one cica posted
I’d also take t knife to save points
At the end of the day curio cdr is 3.4s or whatever for 30s abilities.
Gotta have duelist
But you wind up sacrificing a potential 5% toughness/hp or a gunner resist for it, per 4% cdr.
Unbelievably not worth.
what about this one?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e90b06f-ab4b-4153-a6c8-edc24e850c45/full-judgment-crusher
how much do yall think ign pays google to make sure their game guides always show up at the top of the search results?
I can already tell you it's bad without scrolling because the crusher dumped power output.
i dumped power output too
Power output, for whatever reason, affects unpowered damage.
You want to dump defenses.
what?
(ideal crusher)
Yeah I tested this when the Gloriana update dropped.
That’s good
the doc says power output is just a minor dmg diff
I had one that dumped defenses, one that dumped power output, and one that dumped crowd control.
You can choose between power output or defense
Power output dump did less damage than the other 2, crowd control dump swung slower than an ogryn flipped shovel overhead.
frog just said power output affects unpowered damage
I’d dump p output
Defenses is the dump.
It does?
i might roll for a crusher with dumped power output cause i was told that dodge distance is decently better with max defenses
Ainz is not wrong, there are stipulations to each dump.
If you are spamming the crap out of your push attack, you can dump power output.
Yeah that’s not wrong
If you have good stamina economy outside of that, you can dump defenses.
i mean, the way you are saying it makes it sound like the crusher does way less damage if i dump power output
Btw push is how you do single target on the cursher
cursher
relic blade mk?
Well, when I tested it before the difference was a damnation bulwark 1shot breakpoint.

Either is good
10 for simplicity, 2 for style points. Both perform about the same
Power output dump did not kill it, defenses/cc dump did.
Anywho, as I said, stipulations to each dump.
2 is 10% better preformance for 500% more effort
Generally, zeal has great stamina economy, so you dump defenses.
then why did you say this
If you somehow don't have good stamina economy, I guess dump power output then.
Ur confusing dis little baby boy
I thought crusher single target was heavy light heavy light heavy light heavy li
for 1 it has cdr curio perks
or however which way the combo went for it to spam overheads
I quite literally did not scroll that far.
I saw power output dump and closed it.
didn't need to lol
they have scourge and crit tdr as well
Builds recommended here are based off of generalist information. Power output dump is not a general dump, that is highly specific based on the player's preference.
That or push, the push has insane finesse
oh yeah that’s right
I don’t feel the need for twbs on X, so I take X
Das why it’s ok wif crit
That's why we don't recommend anything made on gameslantern unless someone here made it, like Cica's hsword build.
You don't need to, it's just a quality of life thing
You light spam for horde clear
Crusher single target depends entirely on stacking skullcrusher.
the mk2 kinda of needs twbs
Special h1 > push attack is pretty standard if your target will stagger on the special.
II got very annoying without TWBS, with X I didn’t even feel the difference with TWBS off
yeah 2 it recommends twbs iirc
It does.
Mk10 is just light spam, mk2 is heavy light loop.
Need twbs to guarantee you don't get whacked out of that heavy.
then ill stick to my old build
to the piety one?
yes
for crusher?
yeah
the single target heavies on II does feel very nice
but i can't spare two points on my martyrdom build for TWBS lol
Yes you can...
I mean, I can afford it.
(this is for havocs)
(fuck you, chorus, and your mandatory point tax, let me spend that point on anoint you little bastard)
going to chorus takes 1 extra talent point that would be spent on the node above punishment making it equal to the cost of the double charge chastise
yeah

I think you are missing the point of it being mandatory.
I am not, I am just rambling
What's a good havoc crusher set up? do you know frog?
cuz I don't
you seem to know more about havoc than me <.<
Literally the exact same talent tree that I just posted if you want martyrdom.
If not you can drop up to faithful frenzy and spend the extra points on good balance and anoint and take IJ as your keystone.
*barely used ek
this for ij?
Yah I mean I probably could, but I don’t want to spend two points
i already have a chorus crusher build
that uses piety
Also good on you for remembering not to take retributors stance, I almost fucked up my math there for a sec.
yes it uses inexorable judgment too
I saw you had purge and thought "did he just manifest an extra point or am I insane"?
Guess it's not just exe vet that can do this
"I've got another 50 rounds in this 15 round mag."
hey look, quite literally what I posted lol
thanks
Welcome Yog
Welcome, queen of the frogs
the bearded queen

real answer is psyker brain burst
i hate new player
when i have to do penacne
make me lose braincell on everything
human meat grinder
tidetide
darkdark
anyhow
you mind giving me a hand?
pub player are starting to make me lose it
i don't feel well after being accused and banned from the server
from what server?
what i miss?
not here or there, just my friend server
oh
small local friend server
i didn't do any malicious and somoene decide ban me
without edvidences
shesh
im sitting here waiting for dm answer

it kinda stressing me a little
my other friend told me i did something weird to the server owner which i have no itnerest doing that
the owner block and unfriended me
like what the hell going on
i just slept and woke up this happen
do i take beacon of purity for pox gas maps?
No
there's med stim laying cross the map
you can go psyker boom boom with 3 wound and do the suicide warp bomber
horde is the best one
zealots
i have returned
i was the dumb one
i have founded my own horny based chapter
its on tumblr
just
give me 4/4 zealots and well rawdog havoc
2 are enough
but
the voices are fun
what blessings does stealth zealot run on combat blade?
you asking about the knife?
precog + uncanny/riposte
ya
i have zealoted to much
the normies didnt understand
okay
how many zealots for a fun round of havoc
min 2
but
yes
just 4 screaming people
yes
what is blud babbling?
YES, I'VE DONE IT
Starting Chapter 2 of Rogue Trader with Auroras Heavy Bolter
are the twins in havoc bugged?
If piety uncanny precog , if ij riposte precog
there is a bug where if you are in the air and a shield blows up you will die
the melee twin also has a 360 degree charged attack
is that 360 melee a bug?
no
i thought ur supposed to get hit too
i jsut block whenever shes attacking even from behind her
Good old Rinda hits 360
Rogue trader with chaos heavy bolter? That’s crazy
So it's not a bug
Starting Chapter 2 strong

ftw you get fresh mcdonalds fries >.>
I’ll wait when they recruit argon
Recruiting a noble gas no way
Me omw to covalent bond or something
make sure you join the khorne cult

I thought fresh mcdonalds fries were a myth, until we had to wait on fries getting made today

why does ur psyker have a havey bolter?
why not?
Because my Psyker received heavy bolter training
its... its so vulgar.........
Casual darktide psyker L
ðŸ˜
my psyker had a staff a powersword and a plasma gun like the emperor intended.........
I've been planning this since my first playthrough
Since I saw the heretical requirements
And the strength requirements
And how heavy weapons proficiency reduced that strength requirements
Nobody actually uses grenades right
Yeah
no they fucking suck
Theres a few really funny ones
But besides that its free rep with a faction that accepts mechanicus gifts
they have fuck all aoe and do little damage AND for me at least miss more often than weapons
tbh i still think overall combat in xcom is far better
movement phase has zero range
now go take 0 damage as a melee psyker in havoc 40
and maps have zero cover aside from 3 boxes
have you played rogue trader?
no
u dont get it ðŸ˜
Owlcat diceslop made me realize I don't want to play crpgs with combat anymore
imagine playing xcom but every level is 100% flat
I have never played xcom
xcom was so peak tho
OG xcom still owns
I haven't been into turn based games in a while
progressive commercials have gone a direction >.>
I was peeping hypnotic's class ability voiceline video, and I listened to zealot's "banish" lines, I've never heard ONE of these in the game, what are these from?
Which voice type?
Probably discarded on development

Like psykers have lines for shield breaking
Or that one Loose Cannon voice line for stealth into smoke
they keep yapping about the holy flame and what not
theres banisher and banisher impact
where did you create that beautifull skin
wait yall cooked while i was annoying gen
and just went psykers
ye
s
real
Where is a zealot meta build pin?
Palpatine if his old ass was smart and lifted before the 6th movie
A Lift Lord
its one you made along the way
(in the pin section)
The node tm..
The levels are not flat. The only area I had an issue of no cover was the Aurora boss fight.
And thats because Aurora can move like 14 tiles in one turn so you literally cannot take cover from him.
Bold words for someone in
Foreboding
range
Simply dodge
Other boss fights that lack cover don't matter because they'll use attacks that hit you anyway.
Mimicry is a form of reverence
Just bully the shit out of his AI
you gotta admit the variety of cover is lacking in most maps
Not really.
ur just wrong then
I dont know how to do that but I'm assuming it's make Idira go first with sensory deprivation or something to that extent.
@copper hawk there you go i made my own big fella 
Be the cover
[Vanguard gaming]
AoO's I think can make him loop unless they fixed that
Sensory deprivation really be like "I'm gonna lobotomize you now."
And that is? I don't know what that acronym means.
And in general just providing an indestructible target (Abelard) who is the last to attack him works
use thunderhawk blue on gold and white scar white
Oh wait Clad will never be Vanguard gaming because of Bulwark
Attack of Opportunity

but i wanted a black and gold gundam
Oh right yeah.
In 1.0 at least you could stunlock him that way because he would retarget his aggro because someone hit him
also use auric armor gold or the other shade of gold
thunderhawk blue is a very matte grey color
ill test it out 
Yeah that was removed.
He only tracks the last person that attacked him in an actual turn.
You can still bully him by providing a sacrificial brick wall as a target and then just bursting him
So if your turn order looks something like
RT
Abelard
Aurora
and Abelard was the last one to hit him in a turn, but the RT hit him with an AoO, Aurora still targets Abelard.
The real trick is making sure none of your characters are in a line
Mhmm. Therein lies the problem of no cover.
You can do it with cover
Except for the stated sacrificial brick wall but after fighting him a bunch I know where to stand
I'm meaning more like if you don't have someone hit him turn 1 then he's going to move and kill at least 2 of your party because he can move like 14 tiles in one go.
There's no cover to avoid that. You have to have someone hit him.
hmmm no thunderhawk blue i dont have season pass
The real issue in the fight is the fucking SNIPER
@carmine falcon liberator gold with nuln oil
Higher killcount than Aurora consistently
Is this about darktide or?
Context clues
How's space maroon 2 going?
sexy af
Mission wise
They got furries now
i have no problem with being the bulwark but fighting the bulwark big NO
Which
The wolf kind
Tits fun
I send Pascal to eat that guy right from the outset.
i fucking love pascal
Like I intentionally avoid rushing Aurora's hp bar to make sure Pascal makes it over there.
He is so fucking nuts its unreal, just shitting out plasma nonstop.
I got a mod that changed arc rifles to be considered "plasma" for the sake of his talents, too.
neat
Pasqal is a beast
literally peak admech. hadron and kayex8 have nothing on my boy pascal
Because the mechanicus guy not having good scaling with the mechanicus ranged weapons is dumb and stupid and whoever designed it that way needs to explode.
Opticon-22 is also pretty neat as a character.
abel is legit too
He's the one that talks with a bunch of slashes and clarifications in his statements.
Is it different from pootide?
i saved abel by praying hard to the emperor
And how so?
its third person
Can someone tell me which melee weapon's the best for Zealot, and why is it the Sabre?
and its has more weighty combat
"This unit believes that (name) is stupid /// dumb /// ignorant." is something Opticon could say with the way he speaks.
It's not duelling sword.
It's relic blade.
Duelling sword, at this point to zealouts worth their salt, is a meme pick.
relic goat
duelling sword 🤮
You lose so much horde clear functionality by taking it for a slightly better single target profile.
Relic blade just does it all, it's so fuckin good.
And DS still needs to be nerfed, too.
Really? Rending Dueling sword not cutting it for ya'll with almost one-shotting bosses and such?
Way too mobile for its kill potential.
Boss oneshot is a meme.
DS boss damage isn't even particularly amazing lol
So you're saying the Relic does better
yes.
Bet, I'll give it a try.
Relic is better across the board with the exception of its slightly worse single target profile and its significantly worse mobility.
how do i 2 shot bosses with dueling sword
Auroras boss fight also has both cover and high ground, was hotel to not eating shit on my main character played most of early game as a soldier with longlas
The thing that ds has going for it is its single target profile paired with its movement potential.
With martyrdom and shrouldfield with other damage multiplier
you dont
So a long setup
only thunder hammer can do funny things like that
relic is good for the double horizontal slash and beating ragers upside the head CLANG CLONG so much fun
Doesn't relic blade not able do the same thing?
relic blade mark 2 is more than enough for single target
even mark 10 has good single target with the pokes 
aurora's bossfight in a nutshell
get shit on turn 1 because of aurora's burst attack
I need a sound file mod to replace the thunder hammer impact sound with Guts' greatsword clang...
kill him in like 3 turns wthout any ships destroyed
Hold on
Do we derank on havoc if not played on the week?
Because I've been h30 for a couple weeks now
take 5 turns to even reach the sniper
Pascal and Abelard can kind of dance with them on the low ground but other people you can move up there pretty easily, was able to save all the shuttles
relic blade cant push out enough damage for that kinda damage
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Aurora dusted you in the first turn?
The helbrute fight and the fight after was the only one to give me trouble
theres always an angle where 2 of your companions get hit
hate choas
Relic blade can take out an auric damn plogryn in about 20 seconds if you are left alone by other enemies.
i always have trouble with the prologue chaos spawn
I just shoved abelard in aurora's face and it was problem solved
Aurora does usually break the only low ground cover turn 1 unless you run to the complete opposite side of the landing pads
But that’s so much movement
So Relic 10 relic is better than Mark 2?
No.
They're pretty equal.
Mk10 is brain off light spam, mk2 needs you to think about what attack is next.
nuh huh. mk x requires you to block cancel for the light spam.
Damage output is pretty similar with mk2 having a higher single target profile over mk10.
No it doesn't, just light spam lol.
Your going in the helbrute
im sure BC will give like 5% higher dps or something 
I hate my life
your getting put into the thousand sons helbrute
Block canceling is actually slower.
And the poke light can dumpster an elite in mixed horde.
yeah for mixed horde the poke is very good
So its legit just light spam to win with mk10.
but for just bruisers and shit, i think BC is faster
too lazy to test tho
and i literally only play martyrdom anyway
so it wouldn't be applicable to most people
Eya angelo
Could you ferret post a wee sec
There's been a lack of ferrets for some time now
WE'RE RICH
least dripped out space marine veteran
im just fucking around this shit is fun
trying to make the ugliest mf alive
last creation i had people telling me to uninstall in game chat
Discount Custodes
I need robes for assault
bro stole this
i steala da golda
@plush estuary more albert images dropped
Albert!
his gluttony
his greed disgusts me
damn
Post food depression

