zealot-class

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-darktide-stop-wait-cease-gif-2247250952699468598

[misty nova]

Rashad Plasma

[acoustic dune]

question

would you rather

a. piss

or

b. kiss

[mental arch]

piss

[acoustic dune]

you would immediately die after

[mental arch]

after i take a piss?

sounds like a win/win

[clever swan]

kiss what

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/floppa-piss-pissed-cat-funny-gif-25734631

[acoustic dune]

b. kiss

[mental arch]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-meowl-meowl-cat-owl-gif-10483560106865996036

rip

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-meowl-meowl-cat-owl-gif-10483560106865996036

[mental arch]

i think i just wont get perms

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/image-perms-no-image-perms-image-perms-flex-gif-23244245

[mental arch]

no roles no perms

im chilling

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/n3gat1ve-simon-gif-22685414

u right now

god i love kekeflipo work

[copper hawk]

bark tuah

[median steeple]

erm what the fuck

[tranquil saddle]

Thunder hammer fun but I pray my group has CC

[plush estuary]

hot potato

[copper hawk]

hot papo

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1362653647455916182/277F6A1.MP4?ex=68032d9a&is=6801dc1a&hm=2618add9a72716cad553053b649ea4a3f7e7a3954fc77da5ac4fa0005f045814&

look at this

I live

[copper hawk]

psyker ?

[plush estuary]

yes

[copper hawk]

i slumber. a cucumber

(good jorb)

[wary finch]

Assuming mk 9 is the go to heavy sword mark?

[remote wasp]

Put on the crusher

[copper hawk]

ye

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dNMhZOlTOl_61rw?invite=cr-MSxHTTIsMjA0MjU2ODk0
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8dNWvy9yuiMAmzQ_?invite=cr-MSxMNEcsMjA0MjU2ODk0
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iTbdN7XMMkVTjhFt5?invite=cr-MSxwdkgsMjA0MjU2ODk0

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d34db3c-4ba5-4ce4-9df1-956e154251eb/thing-that-works-for-some-gloopin-reason

my hs 9 build i use

[wary finch]

Ill give it a shot

[frozen ibex]

Use unga bunga and heavy spam. You're like a smol ogryn now
https://youtu.be/MO2VKhjKQN0

[copper hawk]

i prefer stalwart

all that extra crit feels redundant, especially when compared to the survivability u get from stalwart since u'll be spending more time around dangerous enemies due 2 ur inability to kill them (bosses, crushers, occassionally maulers)

10% extra crit or become unkillable

[frozen ibex]

More crit more damage

Relic sword superseded heavy sword tho

[plush estuary]

dies to a sniper he didnt dodge

[frozen ibex]

But you can actually kill big guys

[devout stone]

are you willing to compromize with recon lazgun and combat axe/ power sword?

Can someone enlighten me please, what's the proper for blessings and dump stat on the Relic Blade?

[plush estuary]

check pins for a zealot guide

mob dump

ramapage cranial for non havoc

[orchid cipher]

too lazy to switch for non havok tbh

[frozen ibex]

Make 2 swords

I dont normally play relic in havoc but I assume wrath. Too busy being choir boi book spam bot

[wary finch]

Yea this heavy sword is pretty fuckin good

[wooden dove]

I knew Devil Claw can parry.

I didn't know it can parry the entire world.

[heady rapids]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/wFtcDchaSF

[hearty nebula]

this person should be shot on sight

[wary finch]

What the absolute fuck is this build lmao

[frosty herald]

The most fun build is fgs scrier psyker

[acoustic dune]

Great sword doesn't even need scrier

Shitis just fun

[wary finch]

Yea but using any other purple node other than DD makes it feel like shit honestly

[devout stone]

not only can it parry the world, the return damage is directional, which means that not only you have to have the timing right so you return the damage, but if you tilt upwards to their heads you can have crushers and maulers 1-shot themselves because it converts the return damage to weakspot damage, kek.

downside is, it returns ONE instance of incoming damage, which...personally...I call bs.

[mint brook]

Guys what about blazing piety?

Does it need any buffs or any of its add nodez?

I see nobody take stalwart or infectious.zeal

[spare talon]

i take stalwart on my current most used build

and piety in no way shape or form needs any buffs

[spare talon]

thats
not at all how the damage works
its just a flat damage profile

yes it can one shot them, but it just needs duellist procced and fotf active for the +100% melee rending (cuz their carapace damage is so shit even on the parry)

regardless who procs the parry itll kill a crusher or mauler with those 2 buffs active cuz thats just the damage profile at work

also yes it only does the riposte once per activation/hit
but youre still considered blocking for 0.2 seconds after it goes off too

[mint brook]

Is just i take most people take inex…

Like 70/30

What about infectious zeal?

Does that need a smidge of a buff

[spare talon]

not really

giving 10% crit to your team is nothing to scoff at
its just not very reliable in pubs cuz you dont know if your team can make use of it

but in a premade thats a different story

[mint brook]

10%? But 33% of 15% is 5%?

[spare talon]

its 66%

[nimble fiber]

[mint brook]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-shades-sunglasses-eyeglasses-cant-see-gif-17413466

Oh ffs

Man i swear i am tired out of my mind, had like 3 h of sleep, thanks for the correction

So why is inxlex picked so often over BP?

[spare talon]

because its also stupid strong

constant reliable damage, attack speed, and especially major dodge buffs with very little investment

and it works excellently with every weapon

[mint brook]

So if we were to, say, update zealot. You know, since ofryn got all this amazing stuff

Should we nerf inex or buff BP

[spare talon]

Keep them both the same
Nerf IoD
Major league buff Martyrs purpose
Buff/rework Pious cutthroat to be more reliable and less bipolar

[mint brook]

IoD?

[spare talon]

Crit cdr

[mint brook]

Ah

An yes, i am working on pipus

Since i wanna make dca all about skill expression, i want it to proc on weakspot kills, dodges, parries and backstab kills, however, i will nerf it to cooldown regen

And yes, martyr is getting buffed

No worries

[final forge]

the more and more i use martys purpose this patch, the more i realize its not THAT bad could use some tweaks though

[mint brook]

It is horrible tho

It only ever works with a super specific build

Which is huge point investment

[final forge]

take dmg get cdr, take dmg get dmg buffs kinda fits the build

you wouldnt want it for bp or ij tbh

[mint brook]

Benediction, until death+ holy revenent, then restoring faith

[final forge]

i dont like restoring faith but thats just me

[mint brook]

Hate it too

Thats why i buffed it

Basically, you taking damage heals allies as well

[final forge]

also knives are just like better cus of nade economy so no reason to go that far down for it

[mint brook]

That why i buff nades

Mortis trials send their regards 😉

[final forge]

our nades vs nuke is like a no brainer :S

[spare talon]

Marty wants to stay at low health
Martyrs purpose only had an effect when you are recieving health damage
So it is actually terrible for marty, because you'll already have almost no health to lose when the cdr actually matters

If it was +cdr % based on missing health it'd be a different story

[final forge]

i try to not take dmg on purpose with marty and take chip in between ults if possible which means i can get its cdr

its VERY niche but insta ult can be very useful

as well ie crusher overhead

gameplan usually goes ok full hp use ult, fight boss slowly die to boss/mixed horde with boss, ult again

and thats mainly cus if im fighting with a boss the team is dealing with aw 100 ragers so ult/book for them them back at it

[mint brook]

Here

Does this make stunstorm viable?

[final forge]

havnt play stun nade in a hot minute but isnt it mostly used now, if taken, to get a rez or something like that off so the crit is eh

[mint brook]

Yeah my issue is that it is only used for that

Now it has other uses

[final forge]

stun a pack for team to get crit and kill it or nuke idk

[mint brook]

Team doesnt have enough shooter killers? That add node will make sure to take care of alot of your issues

Yeah, 25% crit plus infectious zeal means 35% crit chance for 7 seconds

And then add psykers 5%

now your team has 40% crit chance for 7 s

Thats huge if you ask me

[final forge]

or nuke

[mint brook]

I mean thats a one timer

[final forge]

id say maybe have stun leave shrapnel caltrops in an area that slow maybe instead?

idk

[tame sluice]

excellent idea

now how do you get fatshark to bother to code a new mechanic like this

[final forge]

fire from fire nades

change visual

instead of fire dmg dot make it slow in the same area

[mint brook]

Lets try to not introduce new animations

Thats my only limitation

[final forge]

then instead have it apply a slow dot to all mobs hit for x time

no animation

[tame sluice]

how do you slow enemies

because I'm pretty sure nothing in this game does that

so that would also have to be a new thing

[final forge]

well we get speed boost

so its just the opposite

[tame sluice]

enemies do not work the same way players do

[final forge]

not entirely new

but the concept its not entirely new

[mint brook]

Yeah, i say just a longer stun then that or as you said a speed boost

[final forge]

but if the stun is longer than why need crit for dmg when the time would theoretically make up that crit not gained

[mint brook]

Like stun nade needs to be more than “oh no my ally fucked up”

[mint brook]

You can move on quicker to the next target

[final forge]

hence nuke

3 vs 1 but nuke does it better

[mint brook]

So more potential enemies killed in thay time

I mean, 4 player kill 100% more than a nuke within 7s

[final forge]

depends ont he situation

[mint brook]

What situation?

[final forge]

ppl dodging muties dogs trappers snipers so they might not be able to attack effectively, make use of the crit.

or throw a nuke in the same situation everything dies

samething with martys purpose not useful all the time but in some situations its op

[vast basin]

martyrs purpose is almost never useful

[mint brook]

Doesnt that just mean you used the stun nade wrong?

[final forge]

key word there almost

[vast basin]

the oppurtunity cost is just way to high

not worth the point

[mint brook]

But fine, we can increase stun nades range

[final forge]

if you somehow get boxed in by ahh 100 ragers/crusher you can stun but you are still boxed in by carapace, nuke says dead

[vast basin]

you need to lose 100% hp for 1 more ability use

very bad

[mint brook]

They still get stunned tho

Carpace or not

[final forge]

then it comes to can you kill them and get out of the box intime before stun wears off

mabye depends

you get netted

[mint brook]

That is true

[final forge]

dogged

mutie comes all depends

sniper

[mint brook]

I go by the assumption that players use the right weapons for the right job

But hear me out

What if we increased the amount of stun nades you can carry

[final forge]

i like the idea, im just saying there is nuke to contend with and vet nades

[mint brook]

And increase the range by a bit

[final forge]

if ur at 50% charge already you dont need to get full tapped for thedcr

but if you get boxed in and crusher hit blam insta ult

[vast basin]

I don't know why you are trying to defend this dogshit talent

good players will not get surrounded

[final forge]

its trash ya

but has its uses at times

idk bout that, will not get surrounded implies 100% of the tiem

so perfect

can good player play perfect 100% of the time idk

[vast basin]

when you have broken weapons like knife/ds it is very easy to avoid any surround scenario

[devout stone]

i've been living a lie, lol

[final forge]

but is it 100% of the time

if it happens sometimes, well thats martys purpose

[vast basin]

the .1% of times it happens does not justify taking a shitty talent

[final forge]

if im already taking marty and want more cdr i might as well but thats just me

[vast basin]

yes, its just you, because it's trash

[final forge]

but at least i has some use, just like good players getting surrounded at .1% of time

[vast basin]

hell, if you do get surrounded it's not even a get out of jail free card, it is only 1 ability use at most. it probably wont even make much of a difference at that point

[final forge]

i book usually atm cus i solo que all the time, 1 book being surrounded means the differeance of a wipe or clearing the map, at least from games ive played where its happened

[vast basin]

book + marty, ew

[final forge]

the one extra use has extreme value, when its needed

very niche but op at certain times

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-pop-art-the-feels-meme-gif-11334684

[vast basin]

being extremely niche by definition makes it not op

[devout stone]

if you manage to get in a situation where you get surrounded you either gotta have someone clear out the space, dash, dodge, slide and pray you don't get stunned or...option 3...you get f**ked xD

[polar nexus]

Using sleeping meta weapons

[vast basin]

someone going piety crit cdr will have 100% more ability uptime than a martyrs purpose player

[final forge]

its op in the niche situation its in, prob not gonna fotf outa carapance/bulwarks, stealth might, but book can save you and the team. so in that situation its op, otherwise trash everywhere else

[vast basin]

100% more books is better than an extra book when your already surrounded

[final forge]

i mean i take double cdr so its not just purpose

but when i need purpose its there when i need it

[vast basin]

so not only do you take a dog talent like martyrs purpose, you also take crit cdr with marty? please let me never run into you in pubs

or is it backstab cdr

[final forge]

you can block me if you like idc lol thats just how i play

backstab

crit do do with mk 15

we can go into a lobby if you want to truly avoid me just ask ill hop on

[hearty nebula]

martyr's purpose is flat out just bad

like it's not even up for discussion

[final forge]

ive always agreed that ya its bad, but it has its uses at times

[hearty nebula]

no such thing as "it has it's uses"

that is straight up just not true

[final forge]

i mean

[hearty nebula]

no

you mean nothing because you have zero clue what you are talking about

[final forge]

no ult full hp, take a crusher overhead insta ult in a bad situation, thats a use

[hearty nebula]

or

hear me out

just don't get hit

[final forge]

and when ur boxed in?

and cant not get hit?

[hearty nebula]

don't corner yourself

literally that simple

[vast basin]

bro this is what I tried telling him, its no use

[final forge]

goes back to the 100% never get boxed in for even good players

[hearty nebula]

pretty much every single map is designed to where you can kite enemies around in each area

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/hakandbobr-darktide-hak-gif-4835721721778289528

Opinion discarded, I am in your lobby

[hearty nebula]

yeah we should do this

[final forge]

who are the best players in the game, can they NEVER get boxed in by stuff?

[vast basin]

yes

[twin wagon]

Yes, but the best still get hit because hp is a resource

[final forge]

didnt you say theres .1% chance?

thats not never

[twin wagon]

It's worth to loose hp in exchange of killing a pox bomber

[hearty nebula]

probably j_sat and the answer is also probably yes

[vast basin]

that was for the average "good" player

the best players wont get surrounded, like at all

[final forge]

probably is not definately

[hearty nebula]

iunno even i don't find myself getting surrounded unless i'm making some incredibly stupid play

[twin wagon]

Darcy is the number 1 vet player

[final forge]

so its happens

[vast basin]

holy crap thats a name I havent heard in a while

[twin wagon]

Darcy is contained to random havoc currently

[hearty nebula]

not really

[twin wagon]

no public apperance sadly

[hearty nebula]

just learn the maps

you won't get cornered

[final forge]

but you make plays and it happens

[hearty nebula]

keywords being "incredibly stupid"

[final forge]

still happens

[hearty nebula]

no

lol

[final forge]

just dont get hit in stupid situations?

[hearty nebula]

yes because it's on you to not get yourself in those situations in the first place

[vast basin]

bro I told you man this guy has like ogryn brain in zealot body

[twin wagon]

Wait no, Martyr's purpose is not actually that bad

[hearty nebula]

yeah ur right it's the noob filter

that's it's purpose

[twin wagon]

IT'S HORRIBLE

It only works on hp

what the hell is that crap

[final forge]

its the sandwhich thing sorta forcing you into those situations cant avoid all the time

[hearty nebula]

stop getting sandwiched

[twin wagon]

It's not fully % based either since it's using Fatsharks SUPERIOR math

Which means it always rounds up and down to 1 hp per 1%

Guys I think we found something almost as bad as loner

[hearty nebula]

we've known it's almost as bad as loner

[twin wagon]

In any situation where you are sandwiched, you are better off using that perk point ANYWHERE else

So even if you are in that spot, it's BAD

[final forge]

so you can honestly say you never get boxed in?

ever

[hearty nebula]

unless i feel like it for a bit of mulching then yeah

[twin wagon]

You could even grab both of the other cooldown reductions

And ignore that

[hearty nebula]

mulching is fun

[twin wagon]

[stone fern]

the idea behind it isnt bad per say but it fucking sucks in practice

[hearty nebula]

if they just made it scale off of missing hp it'd instantly be so much better

[final forge]

more point effecient for my build cant take the outside ones at the saem time

[twin wagon]

No perk that works on hp damage will be good (in dt, don't crucify me one eye), Ogryn showed it and it was changed
It's the time of shouty

[stone fern]

the way fatshark thought of marty is "ok you play normal but then you lose some hp and suddenly you have your ult up"

[hearty nebula]

regen x amount of ability every x seconds for x amount of missing hp
literally just do this
instantly better and not super hard to balance since you can put a cap on how much cdr it gives you

[twin wagon]

Malice moment

[stone fern]

however thats not how people play marty they either damage themselves or let hp fall and not heal

[stone fern]

i think its better to just compeletely rework it

[final forge]

i dont intentionaly take dmg unless i need an instant ult

[stone fern]

i dont like talents that only activate in bad situations

[final forge]

hence martys purpose

[twin wagon]

It's better to not encourage bad plays to consistently take damage, it leads to kn*fe ears

Why not just...swap it with loner?

Make this an aura

[stone fern]

yeah but then you only use it what? twice per game?

[final forge]

most important times, when ur getting wrecked/boxed in and take a crusher hit to get an ult off

[hearty nebula]

or hear me out you could just take a better cdr
because if you're using fotf you're taking double charge anyway, and with the other CDR talents you basically have next to full up-time on your ability

and if you're using book

idk uninstall

[final forge]

using book lel

[vast basin]

he said he uses book marty

[twin wagon]

Brethren I used technoheresy to answer our questions

[stone fern]

sure but if you had other talents maybe ones that have more uptime then you wouldnt be in those situations

[vast basin]

which is already cringo

[final forge]

i have backstab cdr, sometimes you need an ult NOW

[hearty nebula]

honestly im surprised it got that mostly right

considering how muddled information on darktide is from the resources it'd be pulling from

lol

[stone fern]

backstab cdr is kinda buggy and doesnt work that well esp if you dont have stealth or even chastise to move around better

[twin wagon]

It pulled 2 sources from reddit and they are both alright somehow

[hearty nebula]

it's learning

burn it

[final forge]

better than nothing and just martys purpose

[hearty nebula]

no it isn't because you could spend the talent point on something more useful

lol

[final forge]

actually in my build not really Lol

[hearty nebula]

in your build, yes actually

[twin wagon]

+15 toughness? It's better than this

[stone fern]

not really you can just do away with cdr on marty

[final forge]

15 tougness or ult in oh shit moment

pretty easy

[stone fern]

if its not crit cdr its really not worth it

[final forge]

i mean having no ult or having an ult and not wiping idk

[stone fern]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dfa0d80-7c68-4f7c-8f8e-7507fd312b91/smooth-brain-rashad-marty
i use this for cdr marty
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e067b20-9b35-4a05-b792-cdbf16a44d13/stophammer-time
and this without

[stone fern]

with book?

[final forge]

ya

[stone fern]

book just pauses the game pretty much

[hearty nebula]

you know what's better than CC?

[stone fern]

if your team is already dead it wouldnt help as much

[hearty nebula]

killing enemies

[final forge]

ya so, the niche sitution, ur boxed in and need an ult NOW get crusher hit

has a use

[hearty nebula]

or just kill the stuff

[stone fern]

chastise gives you mobility with is better for wipe situations

[final forge]

overall bad though

[final forge]

its to prevent a dead team, ur boxed in bout to die

[hearty nebula]

just revive them later

[final forge]

or mabye some die either way prevent a full wipe

or just...... dont let them die?

[hearty nebula]

tell them to stop dying

and if they die then

womp womp

sucks to be them

they can get picked up at the next respawn point

[stone fern]

people can still die without having a chance to revive

people die from wounds more than not being revived in my experience

[tame sluice]

or dying instantly to an overhead/triple poxburster jumpscare

or ledges

[final forge]

they still die from not revived though

so

[tame sluice]

or they get downed but then a tox bomber who spawned silently and didn't play the audio for pulling the pin on their grenade 50 meters away bounces a grenade off the ceiling ontop of the downed player

[stone fern]

i dont think building against the most preventable scenario is good practice

stuns do everything book does and better how i see it

[final forge]

its not preventable at all times

[twin wagon]

Issue for me against book is tax nodes

[stone fern]

yes but its the most preventable

[acoustic dune]

playing starship trooper is like watching a bunch of idiot running democracy

[final forge]

and in the situations it isnt, well you have insta ult

so not useless entirely

[stone fern]

im not saying its useless

almost notthing is usless except punishment

[twin wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/blind-shot-trick-shot-basketball-tricks-shooting-behind-purdy-shades-gif-14100280

[acoustic dune]

corrosion is one hell of a thing

[final forge]

been mixing some ppl up cus that seems to be the take moselty my bad

[tame sluice]

yes, but every single second you spend not in those situations you effectively do not have an ability

[heady rapids]

it should have some info considering talent rework came out in 2023

ask it about something newer and its gonna shit itself

[hearty nebula]

prob

[acoustic dune]

ogryn should be able to pick up pox burster

and from them like a nade

[final forge]

its an oh crap abil i dont need to spam it all the time

[stone fern]

look regardless of all that chastise is more fun than book so thats why everyone feels so strongly for it

[tame sluice]

that's crazy because FoTF and Shroudfield are also both good in "oh crap" situations

and you can spam them much more often!

[hearty nebula]

whenever i get a chorus user in my party and they pop it next to me while i'm fighting a horde

i just stop and stare at them

[tame sluice]

yeah same

[hearty nebula]

until it ends

[acoustic dune]

dats me

[tame sluice]

just stare at them until its nailed in that they're not helping

[hearty nebula]

yep lmfao

[final forge]

its not about more fun, i love fotf, its about does it hav a use, which it does though niched

[acoustic dune]

i am the chorus user

[hearty nebula]

???????????????

bro what are you smoking

[stone fern]

it kinda is about fun were playing a game

[final forge]

its kinda fun not having everyone dying?

[stone fern]

thats their fault

[hearty nebula]

no it's extra fun when everyone else is dying

u get to kill more shit urself

[stone fern]

i have more fun looping around the map 2934 times trying to revive them with chastise

[tame sluice]

If I want to support other people and have them not die I'm not going to gimp my own build for their sake

I'm going to take utility options that let me save them without fucking myself over

Like stun grenades

Or Shroudfield

[final forge]

its my last extra point it has the most value in martys purpose for me

[tame sluice]

Or the Crusher

[hearty nebula]

^ you can have support when i can give it, not because i feel like you deserve it

[hearty nebula]

to this

[heady rapids]

ayo 😭

what is that race

[final forge]

sounds like alot of bad faith here, there is a use and you ignore it even if its mostly bad.

[stone fern]

#zealot-class message

this is what chorus looks like in game

[tame sluice]

because it's outclassed in its use even at the thing it's good at it

It is better than stun grenade only if there are a lot of ranged enemies and you don't have anybody to kill them

[final forge]

outclassed doesnt mean its useless

[tame sluice]

When the things that outclass it are on the same class. It kinda does

[final forge]

its kinda useless, has no use. or oh dang you have an insta ult, use.

it has a use

albeit not very good but still a use

[tame sluice]

Yes, but that use is something it is completely outclassed at by options that do not gimp your damage output

[hearty nebula]

insta ult at the cost of being instantly put on your ass in the next 20 seconds because you just spent all your hp to get it

[mint brook]

Where can i look up stun nades base stats?

[final forge]

which comes down to preference if you want to use it, i choose to since it has some value

[tame sluice]

So if you want the effects of Chorus it is always better to not take it, and instead use stuns, the Crusher, or Shroudfield

[hearty nebula]

it stuns things

[tame sluice]

Up to taste

[hearty nebula]

thats it

[mint brook]

But what is the radius?

[hearty nebula]

some amount

in an area

[mint brook]

Great

[hearty nebula]

it's wide enough to cover most hallways & choke points

[final forge]

nades have to be shared with ogryn and vet, which this whole thing came from.

[hearty nebula]

no they don't

just pick them up first

[stone fern]

i still think stuns do everything chorus does and allow you to attack and use chastise during which kinda makes it 10x better

[final forge]

bad faith

lol

[tame sluice]

if the vet is taking grenades I highly encourage you to seek a Commissar's help in "disciplining" them

[hearty nebula]

^

veterans literally regenerate grenades for free

[mint brook]

I really need to know stun nades exact radius

[heady rapids]

ogryn is the only class that might need nades

high key

[stone fern]

this is canon because the guard steal shit all the time

[heady rapids]

almost never zealot

never on vet

psyker is self explanatory

[hearty nebula]

yeah including all my fucking ammo the rat bastards

[final forge]

and the arguement was 3v1 in that regard whats better in that situation

[heady rapids]

holy shit man you just reminded me

[tame sluice]

enhanced descriptions mod says 12 meters

[stone fern]

esp ammo they never get enough charging packs so they steal it from the dead/ammo storage/enemey

[mint brook]

So, since everyone good enough takes blades

[final forge]

until you're outof nades

[mint brook]

What if we made stunstorm 40m

[stone fern]

@mighty root the vet steals anything that doesnt speak....

[final forge]

so who gets nades, stun or ogryn/vet

[tame sluice]

and yeah seems about 12 meters

[mint brook]

Would be 20/40 m too much?

[tame sluice]

For something that just stuns? I wouldn't think so

Shredders kill things out to 14

[mint brook]

And how many stunstorms you have? 4?

I always use blades so idk

[heady rapids]

.

[tame sluice]

3

[mint brook]

So we make it 4, thanks 🙂

So here is my baseline buff ideas for zealot, before i get even into the tree

[tame sluice]

oh if you meant base stun grenades

those are 8 meters

[mint brook]

• Stun grenade from 8m to 20m
• Amount from 3, to 4.
• Toughness from 70, to 100.
• Health from 100, to 125.

Why health and toughness buffs? I removed almost all basic nodes

[final forge]

i actually think 4 from 3 is good with ur crith stuff maybe especially with having to share nades

[mint brook]

Remember, it being now 20m, means that my buffed stunstorm, which increases radius by 100%. I stead of 50% means that it now stuns enemies in a 40m radius

[final forge]

oh

[tame sluice]

Stunstorms are a 50% radius increase not 100%

[mint brook]

Its a change of mine

[final forge]

hm idk bout a huge inscrease but thats more fine tuning

[tame sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/stewly-blume-cat-orange-stare-gif-5510655261667964373

in game reference for 40 meters btw

the only enemy in the game that can even consistently attack you from that distance is a sniper

[heady rapids]

daemonhost wakeup grenade

[tame sluice]

or tox bombers for some fucking reason

[final forge]

jeez ya 40m way to big

[heady rapids]

doesnt tox bomber have a voiceline something something COWARDS

https://youtu.be/g8oPcSDyUy8

[mint brook]

Okay, i will change that, thanks as always guys ❤️

[tame sluice]

eh

these guys mostly just don't have sightlines but they can shoot at you from that far

[mint brook]

Its not supposed to help against that

Thats what emperors blooming light idea is for

So that, if you really wanna make it for ranged enemies, you use that

From 8, to 14m radius, stunstorm makes that a 21, and emperors blooming light causes ranged enemies in a +100% radius to become suppressed

So, if you really want it to be for ranged enemies, that i think is what it can be neat for

If however, that is still too strong, i had the idea of stun nade being able to rez allies! With that add node

[final forge]

sorta a smoke situation to avoide bubble psyker not bad i guess

[mint brook]

Smoke…

If i ever rework vet

That thing will get ass blasted with buffs

[final forge]

if smoke wowrks

that is

[mint brook]

Like smoke should, extinguish fire, extinguish pox gas, knock down enemies, etc etc

[final forge]

i think in that situation its more of how long the stun lasts compared to how long smoke lingers

[vast basin]

just make smokes not obscure OUR line of sight

[vast basin]

it will be 1million percent better

[mint brook]

Yesnt?

I mean, i had an idea

But that is for if i ever go for vet rework

[heady rapids]

remove smokes remove vet altogether and add in ranger vet bardin

problem solved

[mint brook]

Yeah, smoke should be the utility god

[tame sluice]

It already kinda is

[mint brook]

I mean, it doesnt stun, it doesnt damage unless i think you directly hit someone with it

[tame sluice]

It doesn't need much of a buff

Just some kind of obvious stat boost to players to inform them that they are inside it

[mint brook]

I would say it needs huge buffs

To be interesting and worth taking

[frosty herald]

path is already doing a vet rework

[heady rapids]

my fav part about smokes is that it makes you blind in certain areas and that trappers beeline to you for a kiss

[tame sluice]

It's already worth taking. Even considering the state of Shredders currently

[heady rapids]

instead of firing from ad istance

[full nebula]

Smoke grenades need to choke enemies that are in it

[heady rapids]

only used them for that one penance

[full nebula]

Boom fixed it

[mint brook]

I willd o one too tho depending, we all have our own style

[heady rapids]

never using them again

[tame sluice]

It kinda does the same thing that Ogryn taunt does but to a lesser extent

Ranged enemies will just walk into your loving embrace instead of gunning you down mercilessly

[mint brook]

Not really, quiet a fewninstance where they keep shooting theough the smoke

[mint brook]

Basically

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869582499930587137/1362072932389621980/dumdum.gif

[full nebula]

Make smoke grenades into hybrid gas nades and make it add stacks and damage inside, then fall off outside over time

[tame sluice]

https://imgur.com/a/6S5LomN

[full nebula]

Give them the gas back

[heady rapids]

remove talent trees cause they obviously dont work half the time

add in verm careers

rename talents

???

darktide goty 2025

[acoustic dune]

i hate starship trooper player

they do nothing but sit and die

[final forge]

if you wanna add sometime to smoke make it stim in the smoke, either some bonus idk med stim slow heal or negative stim the burns ur lungs for enemies if it needs anything at all prob not

[full nebula]

Weapon customization crashed my game 3 times in like 20 minutes the 1 time I tried to use it

[heady rapids]

smokes have random stimm effect as a blitz mod

[full nebula]

Op

Make it into acid nades

[heady rapids]

turn down the efficiency

make it like

[final forge]

guess i need to play vet more :S

[heady rapids]

no that was a suggestion

[full nebula]

Make it acid nades and make it give armor a debuff

[final forge]

oh

[heady rapids]

tho that sounds more like a

mortis buff

[full nebula]

[tame sluice]

https://imgur.com/a/4U7xuiw

it is inconsistent

god knows why

but they're not aiming at you anymore, so your chances of being hit more than once or twice are slim

because you can see the first time they all stop shooting the instant I'm in the smoke

but 2nd time two of them keep firing

actually easy explanation

when they didn't stop firing they were walking and shooting

so walking and shooting on gunners is bugged and doesn't get them to stop shooting when obscured by smoke like it's supposed to

[grizzled aspen]

Gunners will fire at your last known position when it comes to smoke.

[tame sluice]

except for in the first instance of being shot at in this clip, where they didn't, and stopped shooting immediately

[grizzled aspen]

That, I blame on psykhanium jank.

[tame sluice]

which doing this same scenario it seems like the ceasing to fire alltogether is substantially more common

[grizzled aspen]

Lots of stuff doesn't work right in there.

[tame sluice]

in game what they do is run into cover

they don't have LoS of you so they just stop shooting and go to the nearest cover

[mint brook]

Maybe fatshark coding

Cause they did blast me through smoke like nothing happened

[twin wagon]

This wouldn't happen if they just made smoke like in vt2

Stealth to the user in the area

And maybe some buffs to the people in it

[heady rapids]

everything darktide does vermtinde does better!!!

except movement

and maybe general combat feel

[twin wagon]

And specials

I rather take pox bombers than Larry

[heady rapids]

well verm had rat bombers

[twin wagon]

Larries are not as bad, they barely take any cleaving shot and they'll charge u
But then comes the issue, there can be more larries

MANY more larries

[elfin thorn]

what is larry

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-around-stare-disbelief-gif-2441089829670175274

would

[grave cypress]

i can just play what i want now 😎

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-are-you-sure-bens-yeater-gabe-zimmerman-linus-neuman-gif-7992236815276450479

[grizzled aspen]

What the hell is a "Larry"?

[clever swan]

scp 106 (not)

[acoustic dune]

oh you mean uncle larry

i thought you meant jerry from half life alex

[grizzled aspen]

That's 173, not 106.

[torpid glen]

it's 106(not)

[grizzled aspen]

106, iirc, is the dude that drags you into a pocket dimension and secretes highly corrosive liquids.

[solar gorge]

ad mortem looks p good, next game to sink 1k+ hours into perhaps

[grizzled aspen]

Referred to, affectionately, as "Radical Larry."

[placid fiber]

Ah

[clever swan]

106 is the one that's black as hell

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah the corrosive pocket dimension guy.

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/these-heaux-black-gif-12671781

[grizzled aspen]

Pretty sure he doesn't have a face, either.

[placid fiber]

meanwhile if you look 096's face you get hunted

[grizzled aspen]

Remember that 096 can jump to the fucking moon.

[placid fiber]

I remembered 096, but, that was it

and I know there's a plague doctor one but I forgot its number

even if it's only a picture of 096's face, tho... ur ded :\

iirc anyway

I haven't watched scp stuff in years

[grizzled aspen]

Four pixels.

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/keter-scp682-nibble-gif-26232012

[grizzled aspen]

Four pixels of 096 is enough to doom you.

[tranquil saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1351631649372246066/Warhammer40000_Darktide2025-03-1818-45-39-Trim-ezgif.com-optimize_online-video-cutter.com.gif

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-chuu-loona-kpop-anniehasleftoop-gif-24335842

[placid fiber]

[placid fiber]

average gun enthusiast

[rain knoll]

suck to be old man looking at the old picture but didn't know about the little dot of 096 photobomb in the picture

[clever swan]

bring 096 to the superbowl halftime and watch as he improves our species via the culling

[placid fiber]

[rain knoll]

let nurgle look at 096 let see if 096 durable enough for the rot of the garden

[visual stream]

Last time I saw a Patrick meme with text in another language, it was very racist

[plucky sparrow]

to be fair 096 can survive entirely as a a skeleton so ermmmm

🤓

[rain knoll]

ah a future candidate for the servitor

[plucky sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-vs-i-don't-care-who-the-irs-sends-i'm-not-paying-taxes-gif-8806619729680718044

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-096-scp-my-reaction-to-that-information-rage-anger-gif-5944774864014799717

Found the appropriate gif reaction to that

[prisma ember]

@plush estuary you sure crusher is not a crit weapon? I know it doesn't have crit chance blessings, but still, the finesse values on it are pretty good, no? Maybe with blazing?

[opal star]

crusher’s a crit weapon in my hands

[violet hornet]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127724964

In case you haven't seen it yet

[frosty herald]

scourge and piety can force any weapon to become a crit weapon

[hard nexus]

it is a crit weapon

it just doesn’t have a crit blessing

but crit builds do well on it

also IoD is just really good on everything

[prisma ember]

Seems outdated? Isn't current way of crusher is power blessing + impact on hit blessing?

[plucky sparrow]

does impact effect crushers special attack?

[hard nexus]

yes

[hard nexus]

it’s blessings are outdated

but the combos are all still perfectly fine

[prisma ember]

Also what about decapitator or whatever the stacking finesse on one shot blessing is called? Isn't it turbo based on bromentum Rashad axe?

[sterile basalt]

decapitator is abysmal dogshit

just run headtaker + BM

[prisma ember]

Frfr? How so? I realize it's pointless on bosses and shit. Head taker is same for break points? I had some pretty fun full wave of mutants with a single swing oneshots with it. So switched to decapitator on everyone 🤷‍♂️

[sterile basalt]

decapitator is harder to keep uptime with worse breakpoints

[prisma ember]

😦

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-gif-11458026997495797759

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-gif-21339216

[placid fiber]

Sweet!

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/sucks-danny-devito-clapping-meme-gif-5899574479924337458

[placid fiber]

We're alive

Who would have known

I blame Cole

[plucky sparrow]

cant even play martyrdom in peace my team keeps medstimming me

[clever swan]

marty should let you set your hp to not be healable by any means (except holy revenant) so you can avoid that and med crates

[plucky sparrow]

asked at end game and they were just farming me for medstim penance lmao

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-funny-memes-meme-dint-gif-24828835

i farmed psykers

"hi can you PERIL YOURSELF RIGHT NOW, please :3?"

[plucky sparrow]

put duct tape over their mouth when they are in mid peril animation so they cant shriek

ez

[stone fern]

im still missing one of them i think blue stim

[plucky sparrow]

i almost never use stims.

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-da-ba-dee-eiffel65-gif-14330492

[plucky sparrow]

i really need to get in the habit of just using them whenevr something is going slightly wrong

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ajr-ajr-brothers-blue-man-group-ordinaryish-people-gif-25074217

[stone fern]

you blocc and you can runn so hard with them

[stone fern]

i had a dh aggro on top of a BoN

we killed the dh like 1 second after the person died

[placid fiber]

when dh aggro: light spam on oggy

[plucky sparrow]

dont you also attack faster

[stone fern]

if i remembered my stim i would have saved him

[stone fern]

yee reload quell and channel as well

quip speed too?

[plucky sparrow]

oh wait

vet pins moment

[stone fern]

ye

[plucky sparrow]

i almost never use blue stim, red i save for bosses and yellow just whenever i feel like lmao

[placid fiber]

It's sad how on Oggy med stims can never heal more than 33% hp

[plucky sparrow]

true

[placid fiber]

Where's the -1 wound talent on Oggy?!

-2 wound oggy talent, for med stims healing 100% hp lol

[plucky sparrow]

FNP modifier
-1 wound
+2.5% toughness dmg reduction per stack

[placid fiber]

[next marlin]

blitz and range weapon ?

[heady rapids]

assail and a gun most likely

probably vraks autogun

[frosty herald]

Assail trauma staff

[heady rapids]

why would you run trauma with fgs

[placid fiber]

[devout stone]

Curios are the only RNG thing left that you have to draw luck on getting. Every hour in the Armoury, Every 24 hours in Melk's shop, as a reward after a mission. NEVER buy the "random mystery acquisions" from Melk, that's a complete waste of resources, there's something seriously broken with that specific thing and nobody uses it.

[frosty herald]

Why not

[heady rapids]

idk it directly competes with your melee either in elite clear with brittleness or hordeclear with fire

playing that was very unfun for me

[hearty nebula]

blast/strike open up bulwarks much easier than fgs

that's the main reason i use them

[heady rapids]

i wish they'd remove bulwarks from this game

lowk

[hearty nebula]

i forgor which ones floor explodey

[heady rapids]

blast

i think

[placid fiber]

trauma, aka voidblast now

[hearty nebula]

but yeah

that's basically the only reason i use them with fgs

and strike is nice for bosses with the double shot blessing cuz you'll get the stuns

[stone fern]

i wish bulwarks had breakable shields

[hearty nebula]

not super often but often enough to create a bit of breathing room

[stone fern]

also heavy attacks on weapons should break the guard if light attacks do

[misty nova]

Just kill em

[heady rapids]

i wish vermintide devs worked on darktide

[misty nova]

[heady rapids]

and made actually fun and engaging shield enemies

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ghost-barrel-explode-fly-gif-10528166394804192796

[stone fern]

explain to me using logic and evidence why a light empowered attack on crusher and ironhelm breaks bulwark guard but not heavy empowered attacks

I NEED TO KNOW

[hearty nebula]

bc fuck u

thats why

fatshark PERSONALLY did it to spite u

[heady rapids]

small rat you can just break its shield

blackfur you double push to open it up

chaos warrior accumulates stagger from hits and opens up

[violet hornet]

Ironhelm issue

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869582499930587137/1362072932389621980/dumdum.gif

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-sad-crying-wipes-tears-wiping-tears-gif-24991919

[frosty herald]

No joke

[heady rapids]

i have difficulty believing that the same people made both tide games

[acoustic dune]

me when

[frosty herald]

Let us break open bulwarks by doing enough stagger to its shield

[sterile basalt]

u can

[acoustic dune]

i will never understand the choice of why they change plasma to not go through stuff anymore

[sterile basalt]

just takes unreasonably long for most weapons

[misty nova]

Couldn't be my goat Evis15

Casual Evis15 W

[frosty herald]

On bolter it takes like an entire mag if your unlucky

[sterile basalt]

5~6 shots

[frosty herald]

The treshold is absurdly high

[placid fiber]

Sometimes an entire mag doesn't

[sterile basalt]

2 with exe stance and 80% collateral

[sterile basalt]

because stagger immunity

[ornate bone]

yes

[lament blaze]

idk with bolter it has felt inconsistent. sometimes they break quickly and othertimes not at all, no stun immunity.

[plush estuary]

It does benefit from crits

But mainly outside of havoc is it really with it

[grizzled aspen]

If it doesn't stagger bug, yeah.

[tranquil owl]

Lords of the fallen getting some recognition for 2.0 update is nice to see

The good and the bad, just the fact that it's on the radar for some big names will get them some more sales

[acoustic dune]

tf is lord of the fallen?

[placid fiber]

a game

[carmine falcon]

burster ruined my perfect run again

[placid fiber]

a souls like

[heady rapids]

the only things i've heard about it is that it was a bad soulslike

[placid fiber]

I think it's gotten better

but idk for sure

[carmine falcon]

lords of the fallen on release is not the same game now

[placid fiber]

So i've heard

from the guy who I watch on youtube

[carmine falcon]

a friend was ranting to me about it and he's like "why they no put this out on release its not even the same game!!!"

[placid fiber]

I think he said it still has glaring issues

[carmine falcon]

i was telling him how dying light 2 is not the same game either

respect devs who fix stuff with issues

[placid fiber]

same for ror2

from early access to initial release

[carmine falcon]

dying light 2 had its combat physics and animations vastly overhauled

evne tho they didnt need to do that

game was a sucess

[heady rapids]

same as my goat....

darktide........

[carmine falcon]

anyway fk bursters

pushed the mf and he collided with a wall

make them go through walls

[jagged cradle]

Release lotf still gives me nightmares

[placid fiber]

just download danger zone

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/440

[carmine falcon]

i know the mod but it wouldnt have helped cause bro ignored the laws of physics and got pushed sideways

collided with a wall

and i ate the explosion

lol

[placid fiber]

Oof

I blame Cole for that

[tranquil owl]

Most definitely not, the community of players that actually plays the game has done so much with giving feedback and the devs actually care enough to listen

[placid fiber]

Where is Cole, anyway? I haven't seen him in a while

[carmine falcon]

yeah massive respect

[placid fiber]

ugh, I gotta get ready for work... I signed up for cleaning today :\

deep cleaning the mop sink

[tranquil owl]

Yeah anymore people just expect everything to be perfect on release, that was only really feasible when games couldn't be updated after the initial release, like Playstation 2 days type shit, ever since we introduced servers for consoles, after release updates have always been a thing. People hate to admit, but people hold part of the blame for games being released before they're ready anymore as gaming has adapted a culture fit for people with severe adhd. We want it and we want it now, the voices sounding the opposite, are far fewer in comparison still.

[carmine falcon]

i mean its perfectly reasonable to expect something that costs 60$ to be good on release bro idk
respect for devs that care about improving or fixing thier mess but people are 100% right about being upset if a game is outright broken
i was so mad when cyberpunk 2077 in it's awful state

and refunded it

[tranquil owl]

It costing 60-70 bucks isn't decided by the dev team

[heady rapids]

hte only good thing to ever come out of cyberpunk 2077 is the anime spinoff 🙏

[misty ravine]

The game might be improved post-release but it's far from a guarantee, and the harder it fails because of a poor first impression the more likely it is for the developer/publisher to cut their losses and drop it

[grave cypress]

in a squad with a zealot that came out rolling a 71 for coherancy efficiency. Holy balls did they make that mission hard

[carmine falcon]

im still paying it regardless of who decieded it

[heady rapids]

lay off everyone and leave

[carmine falcon]

this
some games never recover

[heady rapids]

and then it's your decision to leave a negative review and refund it

[frosty herald]

they are teasing something for cyberpunk 2077

[carmine falcon]

it took cdpr 90 million and a good anime to fix cyberpunk's reputation lol

[carmine falcon]

yeah project orion news and potentially a new show

cant wait

[carmine falcon]

game is sick especially dlc

if the second game is like the dlc then its gonna be 10/10

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/eErIGFUNABY?si=Y_KelkfShupvrpOZ

[carmine falcon]

dlc took everything good about the game and amplified it

[frosty herald]

more in the form of a new update or something significant like that

[heady rapids]

what if they pull a cyberpunk again.......

[carmine falcon]

probably another patch where they include bunch of mods into the game like the last 2

[carmine falcon]

i will be..........angry on social media

[frosty herald]

maybe north oak will have its cut content back

[carmine falcon]

lmao yeah

biggest fake qoute ever

ive seen that image spammed for years and bro didnt even say it

[heady rapids]

cyberpunk 2077 ruined the first timpression for me and that's arguably a very important thing it can never recover from

yk how people always say

oh man i wish i could erase the memories

replay x again

[carmine falcon]

yeah im not disagreeing

i followed it for 7 years and was mad af

[tranquil owl]

Feel bad for people that still pre-order games

[carmine falcon]

and had to be convinced to buy it again

[tranquil owl]

They haven't learned anything

[carmine falcon]

bought it when it got properly fixed and had a great time

[heady rapids]

i only pre order good games

like darktide

[carmine falcon]

but im also a cdpr fanboy sooooo

another game i probably would have said naaahhh

[tranquil owl]

Yeah, cause we can always guarantee the game is good before release

[frosty herald]

cyberpunk 2 cant have a shit launch

[tranquil owl]

And will definitely do all the good things consistently

[frosty herald]

it would tank cdpr immensely

[carmine falcon]

they literally made a whole ass new studio for the second game

they literally

CANNOT afford tanking

forget reputation

huge money on the line

[heady rapids]

heh

[tranquil owl]

Nah big wigs pissed themselves after cyberpunk launch guaranteed

[heady rapids]

they also moved to ue5

hehe

[carmine falcon]

worrying BUT

they work closely with nvidia

and im coping that nvidia will give them one of their modified UE5 engines

im enhaling the copium

cyberpunk is basically a tech demo for nvidia tech at this point they'll take care of it right

[frosty herald]

cyberpunk is nvidia's main tech preview game

almost every single new thing nvidia has shown uses cyberpunk to showcase it

[carmine falcon]

yep

first game to get full path tracing support

amongst million other things

[frosty herald]

path tracing was the biggest showcase for nvidia

[carmine falcon]

path tracing looks so good but its years away to be viable

[tranquil owl]

Yeah it's not too much copium you're huffing in this case, Nvidia does love cyberpunk to some extent

[carmine falcon]

current hardware can barely handle regular rtx lmao

[frosty herald]

it looks real damn good

[carmine falcon]

its fkn amazing

[frosty herald]

but it is very taxxxing

[tranquil owl]

Just gotta hope new studio doesn't get told they have a sudden new deadline way sooner than the game is ready

[carmine falcon]

also by the time it releases ill probably be barely gaming anyway lmao

so if it tanks

well booo fucking hooooo

[heady rapids]

cyberpunk launch should've humbled you anyway

if you expect something its on you this time

lowk

[carmine falcon]

yeah no my expectations have been in check for every game ever since

[tranquil owl]

People also just gotta shut and not add any pressure to the development time on a game, comments on social from large accounts and shit get noted by marketing teams and the like

Cyberpunk was getting chewed on from both ends before it released

And then everyone devolved into a finger pointing game

Hype is a terrible thing

[heady rapids]

loved the memeifying of that cdpr letter

when they announced the delay

[tranquil owl]

Was fine with delays but apparently most of the voiced opinions were not

You figure, "maybe they're delaying because it's just not ready, and playing it right now would be a shit experience."

[frosty herald]

it was more wtf did they do in those 7 years from the anouncement

[carmine falcon]

cdpr brought on themselves when they did the whole "heh we will release it when it's ready 😏 " shit

[tranquil owl]

Who knows, but if they needed to delay some more I wasn't gonna go rant about it on social

Yeah they needed to give actual time frames

That's what I mean chewed on from both ends

[carmine falcon]

anyway i dont think it's people bitching that gets games releasesd too early

99% of the time its shareholders

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259063314269339679/1358816599758344456/transmit-this-cat-when-they-least-expect-it-transmit-this-bunny.gif

[carmine falcon]

where da money on my investment 😠

[heady rapids]

its always shareholders

or the dev is in jail

one or the other

[tranquil owl]

Or both

[tranquil owl]

So many games have ended up dying cause dev team leader just ups and leaves

Anthem the infamous

Got moved to another team that was already working on a game after original dev team leader left bioware(don't blame em tbf, dodged a bullet considering veilguard)

Team couldn't work on both their game and anthem so they pulled the plug

The loading screen bug was horrid to deal with

Wayfinder, good game now, shit on release, 7 hour que time to log into server, game crashes with 3mins left, have to redo 7 hour que. 5 more crashes in-game after getting in, forcing you back to que for whatever amount of time

Game was sold off to another studio and turned into a single player title with co-op, got rid of mass player hub for instances based on host

Fixed everything, released a little bit more content, game is done, no more, ruined chances to make enough sales for more future content

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358899730083745993/1362843284434845988/True_GIFs_-_1912838450170175956.gif

[violet hornet]

I can only assume there's a ferret under there

[tranquil owl]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ill-be-taking-that-bag-leaving-gif-16207788

D4 doing a Berserk crossover but the character they show in trailer isn't guts, but bro wearing the armor

Probably nothing worth re-downloading for

[supple haven]

Up close and personal only counts slot 2 weapons, not knives/grenades right?

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tickle-cat-tickle-chuddyfan-thomas-jefferson-gif-15541031946739484981

[modern lintel]

bullying

[opaque island]

I would rather wait longer for a good product than get a shit product sooner, and im apparently in the minority if Cyberpunk 2077s release controversy is an indicator and people shitting on delays for other games too

i was willing to wait even 5 more years for silksong if i had to, but its supposedly actually being released this year

@supple haven i mean the nintendo direct had like a 5 second clip of the already released trailer and a 2025 on it

and i said supposedly!

[supple haven]

It will never happen

[opaque island]

im a Hoper not a Doomer i guess

[visual stream]

I like the idea too but I was massively let-down by Techland with DL2 even though they delayed it one morbillion times

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143733235818450987/1341506386189615236/twitter_1891527196939792764.gif

[opaque island]

Does this mean im disappointed sometimes, sure. But I'd still rather hope for better

[sullen forge]

Dying shart 2

[opaque island]

it is better™ now

and at least DL1 is always gonna be there

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-lobo-lobisomem-werewolf-lobisomem-pidao-gif-5024427197428066691

Dying Light 2 story in a nutshell

Did they rework the corny story or is it still like that

[opaque island]

my main complaint about the whole "im a super powerful zombie hybrid superhuman, is that i dont get to play with it

[frosty herald]

Im sure you can find humor in the irony of blizzard doing a berserk collab

[opaque island]

outside of specific story sequences

[frosty herald]

Hopefully dying light the beast is cool

[opaque island]

nah, but the parkour and gameplay feels better

[frosty herald]

Its looking like action horror

[opaque island]

if you were playing either of the Dying Lights for the story, you were playing them for the wrong reasons, while 2s is worse than 1s, 1s was still just okay

[visual stream]

I liked 1s and it was at least captivating

Parkour and zombies were the main reasons true

[misty nova]

It's probably still like that

"oh where sister"

500 hours later

[opaque island]

AIDEY BAH BADEY

oh god the flashbacks

[misty nova]

"oh sister"

15 minutes later

[visual stream]

I'm hulking outttt 🥵

[misty nova]

"bye sister"

[opaque island]

1 definitely had more compelling characters i wont argue that

Hakan was the best character in 2, and I say that cause i can still actually remember his name

[grizzled aspen]

1 also had the intrigue of you being a fed.

[misty nova]

Hakon

[opaque island]

True, but Crane kinda discards that title pretty fast

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-general-hakon-handshake-dap-up-gif-14108969668896621638

[visual stream]

The zombie-human hybrid thing was a lot more interesting in The Following DLC

[opaque island]

just cause i got 1 letter wrong doesnt mean i dont remember

[carmine falcon]

man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbAJWMNcEr0&t=31s

crazy

on top of literally redesigning animations and physics

[visual stream]

Than it was in the random "G-get away from me gaiz" sections of DL2

[carmine falcon]

they also changed so many things