zealot-class

[mighty root]

Sadly yes

[misty nova]

What are we?
Some kind of preachers?

[mighty root]

Anything you see after 30 is most likely a havoc level

[placid fiber]

Nah, that'd be crazy

[mighty root]

God if I had 10 more points on zealot

[small pulsar]

is pious cut throat good?

[mighty root]

Yes definitely

[placid fiber]

It's what you take when you take inexorable judgement

[small pulsar]

im 1 point off from getting duelist

fk

[mighty root]

When you’re not doing crit that’s what you take for cool down

[small pulsar]

but im doing like a shit ton of crit

on my stelath

stealth

zealoit

[mighty root]

It’s still nice to have as well

[small pulsar]

yeah but im 1 point off from having duelist

[placid fiber]

wait you're not taking swift certainty are you? That's 5% sprint speed at the end of the day

[small pulsar]

so i either sacrifice one of these 2

or pious

[placid fiber]

Swift certainty is not worth taking

[mighty root]

Hmmm you don’t need pious and thoses are too good

[small pulsar]

i dont have it

[placid fiber]

Good

[small pulsar]

i need 4 points to go for duelsit

im at 3 spare rn

[placid fiber]

do you have piety?

[mighty root]

Take those 2 points elsewhere and put one in duelist

[small pulsar]

yeah piety

[small pulsar]

i cant

[placid fiber]

Oh you don't need pious and invocation of death

[small pulsar]

or cna i

wait

wait

[placid fiber]

you have stealth?

[placid fiber]

you don't need the 3rd stealth talent

[small pulsar]

its 40 toughness tho

[placid fiber]

over 5s, when you get 15% on dodge and 50% toughness dr on crit

[small pulsar]

yeah but

i have

nowhere

to put the 1 point in

for it to mean more than the 3rd talent

[placid fiber]

duelist

[small pulsar]

.

i got benediction

so naturally i took duelist

i changed the entire build

[placid fiber]

tho perfectionist instead for you

You can also do this

[small pulsar]

nah i like one shotting crushers

[mighty root]

This one’s good

[small pulsar]

but i like perfectionist...

its goated

one shot machine

[placid fiber]

You can take it instead of 5s

Like... that changes nothing on the build

besides which of the 2 you take

[small pulsar]

wat im sped

xd

[mighty root]

Tbh that 5 seconds helps a ton with setup

[placid fiber]

5s helps with set up and data interrigators since you don't have twbs

[mighty root]

It’s more forgiving

[placid fiber]

since twbs keeps melee from knocking you off of data interrigators

[misty nova]

[small pulsar]

also if im running piety on support zealot

why not take the toughness one

and isnt this kinda good

[placid fiber]

A lot of the time the damage and dr nodes on chorus aren't taken

that's a 2 point sink since you need a 1 point sink either way

[mighty root]

It is but not needed, most of the time everything is stunned from book, you wouldn’t need damage reduction if nothing is attacking you BUT the damage is good

[small pulsar]

for bossess since they are nuisance in havoc

and like

[mighty root]

I still prefer being a little selfish and taking sustained assault

[small pulsar]

+30 is kinda crazy if u ask me

[placid fiber]

You can ledge bosses with chorus btw >.>

including daemonhosts

[small pulsar]

lol

and is the blades of faith tree

really better than

sunstorm

[placid fiber]

Yes

[mighty root]

100 times better

[placid fiber]

disdain is every other hit, ewew is mid now, half wound damage is mid outside of marty, 10% toughness on heavies requires ewew and disdain to be taken

[small pulsar]

yeah BUT

if i go

sunstorm

i can also get

ptu

[placid fiber]

and on the knife disdain is even worse because you can't get 5 targets hit

purge the unclean is the middle tree

not the left

[small pulsar]

yeah but i save points

since i dont ahve to

waste them on the mid sections

[mighty root]

Sustained assault is a better purge the unclean

[small pulsar]

i still get

sustained assault

[mighty root]

24 damage bs everything or 20 damage vs 2 enemy types

[placid fiber]

And you lose the utility of crit tdr, scourge keeping invocation of death and crit tdr up, and 15% toughnes on dodging a melee or ranged attack

making your survivability even less

[mighty root]

The more survivability you have the more your team will have

[placid fiber]

Because if you die, you can't keep your team alive

thus making your support talents useless, due to death

[small pulsar]

i cant die

chorus exists

untill death

[placid fiber]

says the person taking 85% toughness damage >.>

instead of 42.5% <.<

[mighty root]

But imagine more survivability

Like an ogryn

[placid fiber]

"I can't die" famous last words lol

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cigar-smoking-smoking-cat-cat-is-smoking-cigar-gif-8453696328432591931

[placid fiber]

You ask for advice and then argue against us... like if you don't want our help don't ask lol

[stone fern]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-enemy-type-upcoming/107165

new enemy type???

[small pulsar]

im foken immortal

[clever swan]

3 hexbounds and a twins spawn. didnt even know the 3rd dh existed

[placid fiber]

oh and btw you taking the left side also loses you a +15 toughness talent reducing your survivability even more <.<

[mighty root]

Does stay close on ogryn increase toughness gain from all sources?

[small pulsar]

pmo pmo

make me an optimal build

please ^^

[mighty root]

@small pulsar drop twbs for until death

And you can put that other point from desperation somewhere else

[small pulsar]

the what

[mighty root]

Thy wrath be swift

Oops

I still like it because it makes me immune to cc

[copper hawk]

Abominable Intelligence slop..

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027335984964190312/1361396979808080064/PxSAhVT.gif

[copper hawk]

Lmfao u reminded me of my OLD Havoc build

Back when enemies were filled with gloop

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da488ca-149d-448a-bd52-dfe4f41d7f95/zealot-havoc-carry-build

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d875eba-172e-42c3-8ff3-da7e9a67dcc5/my-guilty-chord-13-pleasure

My other moldy book build

[sullen forge]

Build that shall never be used again

[mighty root]

Das just for him?

I use fury with relic

You big meanie @copper hawk

[small pulsar]

make it better

[stone fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eifodrRhT9M&t=10s

[mighty root]

I think he has a headache

[misty nova]

Where did the others spawn from

[stone fern]

what do u think

[mighty root]

For all we could have known it makes them spawn in

[misty nova]

There are no spawn doors inside the psykhanium

[clever swan]

what does it do? attract a horde from nowhere?

[misty nova]

So they just started existing on thin air

[misty nova]

Apparently spawn more specials

[mighty root]

Maybe it buffs things around it

Watch it make trash gunners havoc 1.0 trash gunners

[sterile stone]

Scab snipers once again proving they're the biggest griefers among the 6th

[unkempt acorn]

Returned to the game recently, making a thunder hammer. Are Plague Ogryns and Beasts of Nurgle still unyielding?

[plush estuary]

yes

and you can check what enemies are in the guide

most recent pin message

[unkempt acorn]

Very good!

Glad that it's pinned, was checking on other sources and they were all two years old.

[blissful frigate]

pretty sure there's a spawn type that only requires line of sight. it's a lot of fun waiting for rescue during a special wave and seeing like 8 trappers and flamers spawn between you and the team, even in close proximity

like less than 10m apart, some versus lookin ah spawn rules

[heady rapids]

since when is there a radio scab dude guy in darktide

https://youtu.be/eifodrRhT9M?si=b0TfGe6sCOGJJp4j

[unkempt acorn]

I see that your guide doesn't talk much about Chorus or Shroud, is that due to a lack of interest? @plush estuary

[obsidian prairie]

Since they added its data to the live build in preparation for a havoc mod or something

[grizzled aspen]

It looks like just a scab gunner with a vox caster...

[obsidian prairie]

Its cause they’re worse for 90% of builds

[grizzled aspen]

I would prefer them to be specialists with laspistols that attempt to stay away from players.

[obsidian prairie]

It’s probably a havoc modifier that affects scab gunners

[unkempt acorn]

Surely for Havoc Chorus is very good, no? Or is this considered the other 10%?

[grizzled aspen]

Shroud is objectively worse across the board when compared to chastise and chorus turns off your dps for its duration, which severely lowers your chances of survival if your teammates are too stupid to coordinate while channeling.

[unkempt acorn]

Oh, shroud seems bad in my view too.

[grizzled aspen]

For havoc, chorus is good.

[obsidian prairie]

Current havoc requires speed

[unkempt acorn]

But Chorus seems important

[obsidian prairie]

Chorus is good

But FotF can be better

[unkempt acorn]

I played a lot of FotF Zealot before I stopped, it was always enjoyable.

Currently doing a mix of Havoc and grinding penances currently. Down to the last 4 for Zealot.

[obsidian prairie]

I’m not bothering

It would requires me to play shroudfield and loner

Just like how psyker would require I play smite

[plush estuary]

It seems people are already talking about it, need anything else explained?

[unkempt acorn]

No, seems sufficient, thanks. :)

So, Havoc 30+ is typically just get out of the mission as fast as possible?

Or well, get through each stage as fast as possible. Makes sense in the "less time to die" but does it not cause more boss spawns to stack on you?

I have only recently started Havoc, last week 😅 .

[proud scroll]

why not elite/carapce or weakspot dmg? has anyone done the math on breakpoints with the relic blade?

[obsidian prairie]

It’s complicated

[grizzled aspen]

Actually wait @plush estuary why maniac on relic blade instead of cara/elite for crusher 1shot with chastise poke?

[obsidian prairie]

Because weakspot damage as a perk sucks, and extensively

[unkempt acorn]

It's only what, 10%?

For the perk, IIRC

[grizzled aspen]

10% of the damage that is granted by a weakspot hit.

[unkempt acorn]

lmao

[grizzled aspen]

If you'd do 100 normally, but 150 on a headshot, the 10% only affects the 50 bonus damage from the headshot.

Crit damage perk works the same way.

[unkempt acorn]

Just getting duelist in the zealot tree makes a lot more sense

[grizzled aspen]

Duellist is funny because it's both headshot and crit damage.

I'm not smart enough to explain the math on it but having both at the same time is v good.

[unkempt acorn]

What is the crit chance maximum again?

[grizzled aspen]

100%.

[unkempt acorn]

Oh, lol.

[obsidian prairie]

And it’s a quantity that matters

[grizzled aspen]

Assuming you run a very specific setup.

Normally though it's like ~70%.

[unkempt acorn]

100% of the base or like, each hit can end up at 100% chance of crit?

[grizzled aspen]

I mean like after all buffs are accounted for on a specific setup.

5% base
15% piety
10% piety aux node
30% scourge
Adds up to 60% with most weapons.

Then you can run something like knife with riposte and get even more.

I dont remember what the inherent crit chance of knife is but I know riposte grants 20% crit chance.

And then you need a psyker to shore up to 100% after knife inherent crit chance.

Cause crit aura.

[obsidian prairie]

Or a crit perk

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah or crit perk.

Anywho, point is, max potential is 100%, but is definitely not necessary.

[hard nexus]

you need some other buffs up to reach the one shot i’m pretty sure

even with +elites

i think carapace lets u do it raw

[obsidian prairie]

You need scourge

It needs like 2 bleed ticks

[visual stream]

Kinda freaky of carapace ngl

[clever swan]

[opaque island]

they called the rejects? they're all dead

[median steeple]

another era

https://tenor.com/view/dream-bbq-ena-ena-joel-g-dream-bbq-dreambbq-ena-dream-bbq-gif-13228895444162260635

[misty nova]

I believe it

The game does love "teleporting" things behind you

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-ena-joel-g-ena-dream-bbq-dream-bbq-taski-maiden-gif-12954724810985189544

[violet hornet]

just found out that you can use the psyker staff bash to dismember a corpse on the ground

[opaque island]

I just have one question for you!

https://tenor.com/view/where-the-hell-is-the-boss-ena-dream-bbq-gif-7721670247242215335

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-dream-bbq-boss-where-the-hell-is-the-boss-ena-is-searching-for-the-boss-gif-7936532542440594833

[misty nova]

Fully charged to Bon weakspot and it'll spit whoever it ate

[violet hornet]

lmao that is awesome

[visual stream]

??

Truther?

[opaque island]

meanie ENA is my favorite ENA version so far

[misty nova]

Staff bash is the most???? In the game

22 cleave with good stagger

It has poor damage by itself but since smite charged Strike got buffed it'll kill stuff

[grizzled aspen]

I wish staff bash had some weaving potential with m1s and m2s.

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-stack-gif-24890052

triple frog

[violet hornet]

I killed a couple groaners or poxwalkers with it last game that way and it felt good but I could tell it wasn't advantageous over using any other attack

[tame sluice]

That is hilarious. I am making a new loadout just to do this in auric missions

[grizzled aspen]

I think the special could be changed a little to complement multiple playstyles, like ek staff is mostly single target so the bashes on it would be two alternating left and right sweeps, or inferno being mostly cc so the bash could be the thrust and an overhead bonk.

I also think it would be neat if psyker could take a gun instead of a melee if said staff weaving could be implemented.

Zealout dual wielding needs to come first though.

[misty ravine]

I've been suggesting Weapon Special as a "stance change" button on weapons since VT1, for Sienna Staves (swap between melee and ranged) and Greatswords (back when they were weaksauce, swapping between a half-sword stance that was faster and had better blocking and a "normal" two-handed grip that functioned like the Executioner Sword that was eventually added)

Somehow I don't think Fatshark likes for weapons to be able to do that, they probably want different movesets to belong to different weapons (or Marks in DT) to pad out the list

[grizzled aspen]

I think a stance change option would be huge.

Wouldn't work with some weapons though.

I.e. can't halfsword a relic blade when it is on.

[misty ravine]

And/or Fatshark thinks there simply shouldn't be too much versatility loaded onto one weapon (pay no attention to how many weapons were Master Of All Trades over the years)

[grizzled aspen]

(Axe and falchion)

Oh and another thing.

Make surge m2 be the m1 and change the m2 to be a controlled overload on one target.

Like a current m2, but it keeps hitting the same guy over and over again.

And the big chunk of peril only applies when you let it go.

[tame sluice]

single target smite

[grizzled aspen]

Kind of?

But it actually does damage and kills things, is what I mean.

[brisk raft]

Can Martyrdom build work without the extra Wounds?

[turbid tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-farnsworth-shreds-to-shreds-you-say-gif-19143723

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277677568702681128/1362225807875112980/Replay_2025-04-17_00-44-56_-_Trim.mp4?ex=68019f25&is=68004da5&hm=56a33c6afc613595c6163d5ec9c21c9b379dce78d4795dd99b8cfa47beb7d625&

fastest twins spawn

[misty nova]

They want revenge for their 400+ fallen brothers and sisters

[tame sluice]

I've actually had them spawn even earlier on a mission

They can spawn before you even get across the opening bridge of Ascension Riser

[mighty root]

@plush estuary do you have a 40? If so wanna run one?

[plush estuary]

already playing 40s with people

[mighty root]

Aw

If you ever have a spot open can you ping me pls?

[lean cairn]

hello @pliant ice

[ivory marlin]

Hey its me im back zealot chat

[clever swan]

what in tarnation is a "video game"

[ivory marlin]

No clue

[clever swan]

somebody should make a copypasta that is at least 5 sentences long and around 60-80% of it is just acronyms for different darktide things

[lean cairn]

used ds4 for the first time in a few months today

fucking stupid weapon

killed a BoN in like 5 hits

just saw a potential update leak i think

[mighty root]

The radio?

[lean cairn]

a minigame

hacking one

[mighty root]

Ohhh

[misty nova]

It's all broken

😭

[clever swan]

the chinese leakin

[misty nova]

Hold on this shit heretical

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/demoted-russian-kid-russian-kid-crying-discord-mod-gif-23854964

What is THAT

[lean cairn]

probably like this

[mighty root]

Ok real

Maybe it’s easy

[visual stream]

Started watching House

Unironically peak

[lean cairn]

@plush estuary if you have the bubble shield perk on throwing grenade it will crash

i guess cause too many bubbles at once

idk what class it's for i dont play mortis either xd

[sullen forge]

I think its Vet

that or Zealot

[sullen forge]

@grizzled aspen You still doing your Calamity run or whatever modded run on Terraria

[grizzled aspen]

I took a big break.

[sullen forge]

I have one question

[grizzled aspen]

Shoot.

[sullen forge]

cause I got reminded about it and it made me realize how fun it was

have you Done the add on Wrath of The Gods

For Calamity

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[sullen forge]

Oh you'll love it

LMAO

[grizzled aspen]

Listen man mechdusa was kicking my ass.

[sullen forge]

The absolute final boss "Nameless Diety" is easily the most fun I've ever had

and I hate

bullet hells

and it is a Bullet hell boss

but its really easy to predict what will happen

He just hits like a fucking truck

Anyways consider WOTG

I think you'd enjoy it if you're not satisfied with just normal Calamity as an ending

[obsidian prairie]

WOTG is neat cause its an ex dev

[ivory marlin]

yall ever seen a mf so rich?

[obsidian prairie]

Me

[ivory marlin]

4 diamante

[obsidian prairie]

As I said

Me

[ivory marlin]

Rolling in dough rn

Real as fuck

[copper hawk]

gneep..

[obsidian prairie]

The fuck

[copper hawk]

TRUMP-CRUSH-UKRAIN

[sullen forge]

Stellar Darktide Name

[obsidian prairie]

Their build is ass how surprising

[orchid cipher]

[sullen forge]

Average Darktide Experience

[grizzled aspen]

He showed me the avatar of emptiness and nameless diety boss fights and they crashed my pc.

[orchid cipher]

zealots bizzare adventures

[copper hawk]

meeee

[clever swan]

that's when the reconnect mod comes in handy

[copper hawk]

anyone wanna toys

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340130504040644628/1362260167865008401/ROV_shark_footage.mp4?ex=6801bf25&is=68006da5&hm=695f9a3380e8dcda13594500994c8a44afc87d3c15bc2753ad2fb44b5e4105cb&

[weary pond]

evis or thunder hammer for malice lvl 16 zealot

[obsidian prairie]

Doesn't matter

Run whatever

[north sedge]

Whatever weapon you're feeling

[weary pond]

welp its called war hammer for a reason

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-miss-my-wife-invincible-omni-man-meme-yummers-gif-10942073667943236176

[weary pond]

that evis is kinda nice tho

my day one 😦

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1362195327964413962/Screenshot_20250416_102631_Google.jpg?ex=680182c2&is=68003142&hm=8d9e03add817092cfb3c4933fb58efdbd91aebe1694c2ef63b5b8cf6fee5b045&
weeell,,

[weary pond]

I NEED SOME SEA SALT

[grizzled aspen]

Cool weapon, outclassed by a basic axe.

[sullen forge]

me

[weary pond]

thats all of us xD

ima go bonk some fools

[obsidian prairie]

Holy shit he is built different

[sullen forge]

This some new unit they might be adding?

Im all for it cause I want enemy diversity

[obsidian prairie]

Probably havoc modifier

[sullen forge]

Istfg

Just add it in the base game...

[stable cypress]

Havoc is now basegame, havoc is forevergame

[obsidian prairie]

Has identical behavior to a gunner

And likes to spawn a barrel of joy every so often

(trapper a few shooters and a sniper sometimes)

Or some combination of those randomly

Very fun

Also super fucking tall for no reason

Dude is like 7' something

Take your kid to work day

[sullen forge]

Well I mean I saw the clip

he baby rages

makes it clear he's there

I literally see no issue in that being added to the game at all

[obsidian prairie]

The spawns from him are

Very frequent

It would be fun but oh gods more than one of these would be hell

[sullen forge]

Tbf its leaked

so its probably unfinished

[obsidian prairie]

Rocking the mk3 knife clipped into a bag

[obsidian prairie]

Perhaps

I feel like this is an upcoming rotating item

[sullen forge]

Anyways if they make him somehow more unique, and change his behavior to be more passive

[obsidian prairie]

For havoc

[sullen forge]

deadass thats the easiest new enemy to add to Darktide

Will they?

fuck no

Havoc and Havoc only

[obsidian prairie]

Whats the current balance of dreg to scab enemies

[sullen forge]

Dreg usually lighter, quicker more oppressive

Scab is usually armored so tankier

but slower

[obsidian prairie]

No i mean numbers

[sullen forge]

Oh

fuck if I know

[obsidian prairie]

How many dreg versus how many scab

[sullen forge]

its always random

Specials and Elites?

[zinc talon]

Found my newest look

fuzzy hat, thick coat

...barefoot

[obsidian prairie]

15 scab 9 dreg

Minus bosses

[orchid cipher]

so basically like a standard bearer

?

[sullen forge]

18 to 15 if we consider Ogryn's to be Scab and Groaners + Poxers + Hounds as Cult made

[obsidian prairie]

I'm not counting horde trash

[sullen forge]

18 being scab

[obsidian prairie]

am counting dogs as dreg though

Still like 50% more enemy types in scab then dreg

[copper hawk]

yum

she will feed u 2 the burgles now

[copper hawk]

troo..

[ivory marlin]

Is stan still active

I missed stan so i came back

[copper hawk]

on and off

[ivory marlin]

Real

O wait hi cica

[copper hawk]

hi moldling

[ivory marlin]

Real

What was my name before i left

Uhhhh

[ivory marlin]

Boots was in it

That looks like mashed potatoes

[north sedge]

It is not, shockingly

[ivory marlin]

Wasn’t it like jalion boots or smth like that

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-suprised-bruh-what-littlebigplanet-gif-18119100423231820417

[obsidian prairie]

It looks like frosting or something

What the fuck

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156134212982808588/1362266888079671336/car_hates_clankers.mp4?ex=6801c567&is=680073e7&hm=9ce5077c497d66b8c32733c8da909a6965886bff15e83ac931cbc4207dc9e4bc&

[obsidian prairie]

The rot consumes

[zinc talon]

w-what....is it..

oh lol

it's a dog moving at mach jesus

[austere grail]

seems to be based on a random seed each game and can heavily favor one or the other

[obsidian prairie]

Scroll down a bit

[austere grail]

I cant this is the end of chat

[obsidian prairie]

A bit from the comment

[austere grail]

its at the end too

[obsidian prairie]

The comment you replied to

Critical thinking skills

[austere grail]

ok, now I can scroll. it says you told me to scroll down a bit

[grizzled aspen]

An argument between titans of colossal intellect...

[obsidian prairie]

I will choose to ignore sarcasm and take that as a compliment

[austere grail]

me too

[obsidian prairie]

I did it first

[austere grail]

todays opposite day

[obsidian prairie]

That statement invalidates itself

[austere grail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tickle-cat-tickle-chuddyfan-thomas-jefferson-gif-15541031946739484981

[sacred mortar]

fucking busted ass steam cloud saves, i been waiting for 10 minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this shit is still updating factorio !!!!!!!!!!!

[hexed igloo]

Skill issue my steam cloud is based

[sacred mortar]

i wanna play DT before going to sleep

[hexed igloo]

Pray to gaben

Maybe he'll be benevolent

[sacred mortar]

doubt it

[hexed igloo]

He gives me the primo steam cloud server space

[sacred mortar]

finally, its done, piece of unoptimized shit

[frozen kernel]

Speaking of Gaben…

Tax return finally arrived might commit to picking up a steam deck

[sacred mortar]

im sooo close

[frozen kernel]

It makes me uncomfortable not seeing it totally maxed out

It’s been so long 💀

[sacred mortar]

i havent been playing that much either

[frozen kernel]

Yeah fair does

I was fortunate when the update came through. Had a shitload of money and materials I was sitting on

[sacred mortar]

let see if one havoc maxes it

[frozen kernel]

Dunno if Hav gives more mastery than regular Damn but I never tried leveling stuff in there

Pretty sure it’s additional XP per modifier so generally the auric maels are a good way to quickly grind mastery in between sacrificing greens

[sacred mortar]

i dont have enough time to do one, ill try a standar mission on heresy and try aulric tomorrow

[copper hawk]

grr

hate knife zeals..

[jagged cradle]

Is your picture from omori now?

[zinc talon]

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/amen-anchorman-will-ferrell-gif-10865461

[copper hawk]

yerp

https://tenor.com/view/laimu-limealicious-vtuber-gif-13786728527469125818

[jagged cradle]

Oh kino

Never played it but I watched a video essay that made me cry

[plush estuary]

thee

[sacred mortar]

yes !

[hard nexus]

tattoo acquired !

[sacred mortar]

should i keep this one ??

[hard nexus]

low damage

so no

u want mobility to be 60%

everything else 80%

[hard nexus]

mobility or stability at 60%

[sacred mortar]

almost there

[hard nexus]

thats better if ur just leveling them up

[sacred mortar]

ill do that

[hard nexus]

but if u want a perfect roll, its best to just gamble at brunt

[sacred mortar]

i dont have enough wits tob seek perfect rolls, destiny 2 already worned that part of me out

[hard nexus]

luckily its not that bad

i usually get a good roll in less than 20 tries

[sacred mortar]

what about this one ??

[hard nexus]

and u only really need to roll 1 or 2 of whatever weapon anyway

[hard nexus]

shredder with ammo dump, thats fine but ur missing out on a little ammo

but that shredder will serve plenty fine

shredder isnt really used for ammo dumping anyway

its best for quickly dealing with maniac, unyielding, or inspiring barrage for emergency toughness

[sacred mortar]

good enough ??

a little more power ??

[hard nexus]

ideally u take it as high as u can but its up 2 u

ur resources

[sacred mortar]

what about the blessings ??

[hard nexus]

a perfect stat roll is only really gonna matter significantly in damnation and havoc

[hard nexus]

inspiring barrage, blaze away, flak maniac

[sacred mortar]

ill leave as it is until i have more resources

[sacred mortar]

las pistol or shredder ??

[hard nexus]

shredder

for las pistol, take desperado and

uhhhh

[sacred mortar]

i meant the las pistol

[hard nexus]

whats the other

uhnhhmmm

oine sec

[tame sluice]

ghost

[hard nexus]

yah

@sacred mortar

ghost

desperado and ghost

[sacred mortar]

done

itll be my go to weapon, ill level up the shredder now

[hard nexus]

pawesome

[sacred mortar]

and sacrifice the other laspistol

[jagged cradle]

Kinda cool ig

[sacred mortar]

what about this one ??

[hard nexus]

perfect roll !

just level it up

for blessings take wrath rampage

and perks take flak elites

[sacred mortar]

ah shit, no not that one

this one

i meant melee

[hard nexus]

ohg

yah that chainsword is fine

just do what i said higher

[sacred mortar]

level it up, got it ??

blessings ??

[hard nexus]

@sacred mortar

[hard nexus]

oh wait this is mk3 evis

nvm

sorry

i thought that was chainsword

but

mk3 evis, take shred perfect strike

flak elites

take a crit build pathing through tknives

[hard nexus]

this is my mk3 evis build

i’ve used it i h40

[jagged cradle]

How do you manage to yap this much ?

[hard nexus]

i was going to be really mean but i managed to resist

[sacred mortar]

ok, ill evel it up then now

[jagged cradle]

But it wouldn’t been funnier if you didn’t

I really don’t mind that king of stuff go off next time smh

[hard nexus]

remember 2 swap infested to flak

[hard nexus]

how do you manage to be so infuriating

[modern lintel]

youd crumble to dust

[jagged cradle]

It’s a special skill called rage baiting

Comes with living

[hard nexus]

it’s a special skill called

nvm

i am perfect and flawless and can do no wrong

[jagged cradle]

Booo

[sacred mortar]

almost the exact same buildi have

[hard nexus]

whatever noob i just got a tattoo and you didn’t so u smell

[jagged cradle]

Nothing about that sentence was even close to the truth

[hard nexus]

uh huh

go back to heresy

[jagged cradle]

Erm actually

[hard nexus]

hard stuck havoc 33

i smurf ur peak

[jagged cradle]

I did my first damnation today

I popped off

[hard nexus]

ds4 flamer relic

baby mode.

[hard nexus]

jokes aside

[jagged cradle]

Ds4 plasma smh

[hard nexus]

actually?

[jagged cradle]

I hate zealot

[hard nexus]

i don’t know what u play at

[jagged cradle]

What no

[hard nexus]

ok i figured not

[hard nexus]

LMAO

[jagged cradle]

I kinda just stick auric maelstroms

[hard nexus]

fair

[jagged cradle]

Also did you get the wolp tattoo you were talking about or a different design

[sacred mortar]

what stats should i look for infantry lasgun ??

[tame sluice]

dump mobility as usual

[copper hawk]

Use a Bolter

How dare U

[jagged cradle]

Boooring

[bitter anvil]

Go full auto mod inf lasgun 4

Fun hip firing

[bitter anvil]

Comically large laspistol

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[hard nexus]

i did !

[copper hawk]

She lies

[jagged cradle]

Who do I believe

[copper hawk]

Gets so silly

[jagged cradle]

Cica who blows up every barrel in my vicinity

Or meow…

[copper hawk]

Gets soooooo silly

[jagged cradle]

What are you talking about?

[copper hawk]

Getting so silly

[jagged cradle]

..?

[median steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/hunt-showdown/clips/1t6OucEiG_XtBh?invite=cr-MSxidFMsMTk0NjM5OTEy

Old Cica mic was crazy

[jagged cradle]

Lmfao

[copper hawk]

Frigly funbar Beheld , lvl 10 gyat . LOL !

O___O

[median steeple]

Wgar

[lone matrix]

combat knife or duelling sword which one would you use for stealth?

[tame sluice]

I would sooner throw myself from a bridge than play stealth

not a tall bridge or anything but y'know

[lone matrix]

i play normally rush but from time to time i want to stealth cause i was shade main in vt2

[hard nexus]

knife probably

for movement speed whilst cloaked

oouuuugh so eepy

[lone matrix]

then mk6 knife

[jagged cradle]

I have a weird suggestion

I don’t know if it’ll work tho

[hard nexus]

soon…

i’m waiting for my laundry to be done

[lone matrix]

gaming fuel

[jagged cradle]

Sure…

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/abracadabra-lady-gaga-gif-6701158268731726644

i love lady gaga

top 10 people ever invented i think

[jagged cradle]

I like that one song

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-darktide-get-away-shoo-disappear-gif-5683568285290773389

i spilled ice cream on my clothes while i was getting tatted

[lone matrix]

tatted?

[hard nexus]

(my friend got us some and it was mostly melted by the time he got back)

[hard nexus]

tattood

so i’m washing my clothes before they stain

[lone matrix]

oh thought so, weren't sure

[jagged cradle]

What flavor?

[hard nexus]

it was one of those self serve places

he got me

uhh

a little dulce de leche

[jagged cradle]

Oh

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/astra-militarum-imperial-guard-warhammer-40k-smug-dance-gif-16277811808889809400

[jagged cradle]

Not my favorite but still good

[hard nexus]

and vanilla and chocolate mainly

[acoustic dune]

its time

[hard nexus]

with brownies on top

so it being melted actually made the brownies on it really good

[lone matrix]

is it 3 am by you

[hard nexus]

yeah

[jagged cradle]

Fuck I need to figure out what mod is bugging my game

[lone matrix]

i ment cause the shitposter they tend to do the most weird stuff at 3 am

[hard nexus]

what mods do you have and is there an error code and when does it bug out

[hard nexus]

what shitposter

[jagged cradle]

Terraria not darktide

[hard nexus]

i’m confused

[hard nexus]

oh

booooorrriiiing

[jagged cradle]

Like you

[lone matrix]

pw

[jagged cradle]

Yes very boring

[hard nexus]

this did nothing but make me even more confused

[lone matrix]

priesty wolf

[hard nexus]

ohhhg

there’s a part of the instrumentals in abracadabra

that sounds a lot like a sewerslvt song

but i can’t remember which song

it’s probably just a common sample/synth setup

[jagged cradle]

So tired yet I must find the problem

[grizzled aspen]

What mods?

[jagged cradle]

I fixed it

I’m the best

[median steeple]

inked......

[lone matrix]

thats a reason i write with mechanical pencils

[mint brook]

Question, what if i put duelist to 25% each?

Still to strong? What if it got halved and got turned into seperate ffects?

[acoustic dune]

Mossa has once again

Made peak

[mint brook]

The more you look at it, the more detail you find

Art

[acoustic dune]

The brush stroke

The detail

The imperfection

https://tenor.com/view/getout-get-out-thesunkenplace-gif-18483817

This man is insane

Putting this atleast once a week

I wish to study his work

And see his process

[wary finch]

https://youtu.be/SaVs9_I-rLs?si=hOdgt6oIT1yyRoj4

[brisk raft]

A truly grimdark comic

[acoustic dune]

You could say it's truly for a

Dark

Tide

[spare talon]

Erm
Nuh uh
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1278540580976328790/1362280656427552909/tModLoader_-_2025-04-16_11-12-58_PM.mp4?ex=6801d23a&is=680080ba&hm=56fb6ad18cedb1d0e85d26cdad84738c507b53ed7c489a2c04ab7cc058ca53c0&

[mint brook]

Honest question, would it hurt if FotF more add nodes?

Like sure it is a simple skill

But a single, must have node is super boring

[brisk raft]

Hence why everyone is calling for Zealot rework next

[acoustic dune]

build for zealot are mostly the same

and it stink

[lone matrix]

rush a

[acoustic dune]

tknife then until death
then fury then whatever keystone

[brisk raft]

Waiting for the day, gun zealot becomes viable

[acoustic dune]

i hope gun zealot get nerf

i believe in melee zealot only

[brisk raft]

You hurt me

I cry

[acoustic dune]

infact
remove guns from zealot

give him a pole arm

[brisk raft]

Even throwing knife?

[acoustic dune]

tknife are just long range melee

[lone matrix]

yeets throwing axes with heavy armor piercing

[acoustic dune]

get zealot one of these

what are they gonna do?

be out of range

?

[lone matrix]

polejumps over reilings and gaps

[mint brook]

Guys

What is y’alls opinion on sainted gunslinger?

[acoustic dune]

double it and give it to the next person

(vet)

[mint brook]

Would it be better if it was 10%

or listen here

10% reload and wield speed

[acoustic dune]

thats a vet thing

quite literally

[mint brook]

Wait it is?

[acoustic dune]

first part of vet skill tree

50% wield speed

x% when ammo in mag

[mint brook]

Oh wait

I mean as in swapping

[acoustic dune]

elite kill for reaload speed

etc

[mint brook]

So the time it takes you swap from melee to ranged and vice versa

[acoustic dune]

that is wield speed yes

[mint brook]

Yes but thats elite kill and only reload, the other is an unconditional 25%

So what if it was 6% swap and reload speed per stack up to 35% on melee kill?

[acoustic dune]

again thats a thing on vet

the right keystone

is just that

actually

[mint brook]

I mean, sorta?

[acoustic dune]

vet has better

[mint brook]

So? We talk here about a talent >->

[acoustic dune]

so zealot gunslinger would be a shittier vet

even talent wise

[mint brook]

I do not think a single talent defines a whole class unless it is op

[acoustic dune]

me think each class in pooptide
should have a major over smth over all other class

[mint brook]

Like i am asking if sainted gunslinger would be worth taking on zealot

[acoustic dune]

in zzealot case

[mint brook]

That is the question i am asking

[acoustic dune]

close range buff

if the zealot
for me
should buff shotty or any other weapon that buff close range weapon

in other word

[mint brook]

Already kinda did that, put anointed in blood in an easier to reach position sorta

[acoustic dune]

tripple barrel shotty

[acoustic dune]

thats like

1 buff

and i dont pick it bc i dont have the point for it

vet i would say
is ammo efficient

zealot should be some kind a anti everything on guns with almost to no ammo

[mint brook]

So question then is, wether SG is weak or not

[acoustic dune]

sg?

[mint brook]

Sainted gunslinger

Thing is, i wanna avoid more close range damage

All classes have some way of using ranged as their primary

[acoustic dune]

like SG is a neat idea
but when vet is right there and gun psycher exist

[mint brook]

Zealot doesnt whatsoever

[acoustic dune]

the niche for zealot should be smth else

and oggy

are oggy

cant blame the lad

he is a big good boy

[mild sparrow]

Ogryn actually has some weapon specialist type nodes too lol

[acoustic dune]

also lmg on vet when

[mint brook]

See it maybe that way, swap and reload speed would help weapons like the pumpgun, revolver and flame!

[mint brook]

Slight copies are fine

If they are fun

[acoustic dune]

thats a vet keystone

which would make it redundant

on zealot

[mint brook]

Imma say it, no one cares if its fun

[acoustic dune]

at that point play vet

[acoustic dune]

like cool neat its fun
if it doesnt exist arleady

[mint brook]

Like ogryn has vet talents

Nobody complains there

[acoustic dune]

oggy has big fuckoff weapon

no one will complain ofcourse

it has its niche

[mint brook]

Everyone has an attack speed and cleave node, nobody cares

[acoustic dune]

vet skill for no ammo cosumption is only for lasy

[mint brook]

Ammo increase

[mild sparrow]

It fits zealots playstyle of primary melee with some ranged. It would be nice to see some decent ranged buffs if someone wants to go that way with the build

[acoustic dune]

neat i could shoot longer

on a range class

[mint brook]

Concentrate is basically a critless deadshot

Like the list goes on

[acoustic dune]

ok how about this

[mint brook]

All classes borrow from each other

[acoustic dune]

make revolver stack up ammo per melee kill

make it hell on earth for the enemy

[mint brook]

Stack up ammo?

[acoustic dune]

idk maybe?
i am thinking more stack up faith to a singular boolet

literal implde anything shot at

make it extreme

[mint brook]

Ah, i see what you mean

[brisk raft]

Actual Blessed Bullet

[acoustic dune]

it could one shot a crusher level of stupid

[mint brook]

No worries

[acoustic dune]

but then you gotta grind it up

[mint brook]

Working on fun things which are mostly relegated to keystones and ults

[acoustic dune]

like i the idea of swap for buff
if it doesnt exist arleady

then again i play veet while holding down m1 with the recon lasy

PREASE GIVE US BRACCE RECON LASY

[brisk raft]

Hellgun most likely

[mint brook]

Still think zealot should get vindictor

[acoustic dune]

hellgun is fun and all

but it stink

for me

[mint brook]

And it should work like the grenade gauntlet in terms of what buttons do what

[acoustic dune]

just give the zealot a slug flare gun

[mint brook]

I mean, could be funny

[brisk raft]

Y-you haven't even tried it yet...

OR HAVE YOU???

[mint brook]

Counterpoint, vindictor flamer

[brisk raft]

Inferno Pistol?

[acoustic dune]

i have
but i got flank by ragers

multiple

[mint brook]

Btw, whay about a base zealot buff?

From 70 to 100toughness, since i deleted quiet a fee base nodes

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/activating-sandevistan-david-martinez-cyberpunk-edgerunners-slows-time-down-super-speed-gif-26917413

speed

[mint brook]

No speed

I looked into that

Too volatile

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

[brisk raft]

Wait did you think I mean Helbore?

[acoustic dune]

erm
yeah?

[lone matrix]

thats gunker

[brisk raft]

Hellguns are laser lmgs

[mint brook]

Issue is, giving zealot a speed buff will cause more speedrunning

[acoustic dune]

what are you babbling

[brisk raft]

40k lore

[lone matrix]

we would get more stealth rushers

[acoustic dune]

500 trappers

[tranquil grail]

they are lmgs

[acoustic dune]

sure as shit in game they arent

best way to use it is as if its a sniper

with shit scope

[brisk raft]

Oh no no no

You are mistaken

Hellbore does not equal Hellgu

[acoustic dune]

recon lasy is right there
if i want the shoot down range and kill everything

[heady rapids]

recon sucks

helguns are cooler

[acoustic dune]

u suck

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[lone matrix]

hellguns vet only

[brisk raft]

Hellguns aren't ingame except on Scab Gunners

[acoustic dune]

i comfuse the hellbore for hellgun

then again

both have hell in there name

[mint brook]

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

[acoustic dune]

tbh whats wrong with speed runner?

if they do it in pub

they die

[mint brook]

This

[brisk raft]

40k does that with naming yea

[mint brook]

Nope

Good ones WILL manage

[acoustic dune]

we need a stealth seeking unit or smth in the game

[mint brook]

And more speed means they will be even better at surviving

[heady rapids]

vermintide had boss barriers

[acoustic dune]

I HATE SPEED RUNNER

I JUST WANNA RUN HAS FAST HAS MUTANT

AND BACK STAB THEM

[mint brook]

That would be a great way imo

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-angry-gif-23442156

[acoustic dune]

i mean it could work on damnation

and auric

[mint brook]

Btw

[acoustic dune]

say that the gas is too smelly or smth that make the air as thicc as the wall

[mint brook]

What about punishment(node)?

Good or bad?

[acoustic dune]

so taxes

what we have now its
reasonable
prob

its good

if its not too much

[clever swan]

heckbore

[acoustic dune]

then again current zealot skill tree

stink

need more damage node

and skill

instead of shitty toughness regen

[mint brook]

Would punishment be too good if it had something else like stagger strength?

Or if it would deal bonus damage against staggered enemies?

[acoustic dune]

theres stagger immunity at right side tree

which i like to pick if i have the point

[acoustic dune]

i mean this exist

and this

but no one pick it

for a reason

[mint brook]

Master retribution i am gonna add something

Grievous wounds will get part of duellist

[acoustic dune]

maybe dont like it
personally i like master retribution

[mint brook]

Meaning grievous wound grants weakspot damage and stagger on weakspot hit

[acoustic dune]

(dont tell the others they will skin me alive)

[mint brook]

I am looking at objectivity

So if a skill is bad or unhealthy, i WILL change it in the rework

[acoustic dune]

the skill it self is great if you dont wanna get hit back to back and help with doing obj if not defended

like a fail safe for not dying while doing obj

me think zealot should be a reckless loose that run through flame to catch some mf

[mint brook]

I made it so taking a hit grants 10% damage reduction and damage for 7s up to 3 stacks

[acoustic dune]

thats op

[mint brook]

I think that fits more to the preacher which is meant to be the “i wanna get it and sow carnage” kinda guy

[acoustic dune]

and stupid

[mint brook]

How is it stupid?

[acoustic dune]

in a game about not wanting to get hit

its stupid

[mint brook]

Ogryn

[acoustic dune]

but i do see it work

[acoustic dune]

they have a lot of armor

[mint brook]

For the lil ins and and no hurting friends

[acoustic dune]

but i can see it work if pair with other skills

[mint brook]

Thats way it will be a a bottom node

So you gotta go out of your way to get it

[acoustic dune]

make it top node

so it can be pair with this

or this

[mint brook]

The reason i make it a bottom node is because it is strong and build specific

[acoustic dune]

which is stupic that both is not of the same path

[mint brook]

Both already have spot somewhere

If you wanna see the top

Here

[acoustic dune]

are both gonna be combined?

cause that would be actually fun

more reckless etc

[mint brook]

Bleed for the emperor will be renamed and changed in effect

Resorinf faith will work slightly different

[slate notch]

What's this? Just came home

[mint brook]

Me working on a fanmade zealot rework

[slate notch]

Hmmm interesting