zealot-class

[obsidian prairie]

Objectively by standards of power? Yes
Subjectively by standards of class synergy and fun? no

[winter oxide]

oh ok

[obsidian prairie]

Tac axe is faster and has similar clear speeds but with worse single target

It also has extremely good crit synergy

second only to knife

[winter oxide]

how is the horde clear on it?

[obsidian prairie]

4 targets a swing

Same as rashad

[winter oxide]

oo

[obsidian prairie]

They both get their clear carried by Brutal Momentum

[winter oxide]

what about the devil claw sword?

[obsidian prairie]

Dclaw kinda sucks but we like it

[misty nova]

Leagues better

[obsidian prairie]

Bad damage versus all armor

[tame sluice]

Very fond of the "hope to god you get a crit" single target damage

[obsidian prairie]

parry is really funny though

[obsidian prairie]

"Hope to god" bitch you have a +12% innate crit from the weapon

[winter oxide]

ok ill stay away from devil claw sword

[obsidian prairie]

Its fun

It just isn't good

[tame sluice]

I have been shot to death by gunners on my gun psyker while firing a recon lasgun at a bulwark

because I didn't get a crit for 2 full seconds for EE to run out

[obsidian prairie]

1 second

[tame sluice]

I am hoping to god because he fucking hates me

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-kinji-hakari-kingji-goatkari-gambling-jackpot-gif-5065864224805726506

[obsidian prairie]

monotheism is lame anyway

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-its-mid-peak-fiction-deak-fiction-mid-fiction-gif-15023042768665827513

[winter oxide]

are the other two marks on the combat axe bad?

[hard nexus]

dclaw is fun

works well enough

[obsidian prairie]

Not bad but worse

[winter oxide]

achlys and antax

[hard nexus]

just bring something like bolter to handle crusher packs

[obsidian prairie]

Rashad has the best patterns and stats

[tame sluice]

Achlys is bad. Antax is a "sidegrade" that is usually just worse

Antax gets a better push attack, and better cleave on lights I think?

But its heavy attacks are like 2 times slower

[obsidian prairie]

Like cleave matters

(for caxe)

[misty nova]

Truly a BM moment

[craggy skiff]

The rashad quick overheads on heavy spam makes it a single target murder machine

[winter oxide]

oh i see

so antax has slightly better wave clear

[hard nexus]

not really

[winter oxide]

what does achlys have?

[obsidian prairie]

Nothing

[hard nexus]

rashad lights will kill 4 chaff per swing

[misty nova]

Supposedly better carapace

[hard nexus]

antax lights are slower

[obsidian prairie]

Theres a reason that Combat Axe is just refered to as Rashad

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-meme-steam-tg-bratishkin-gif-274347585508037432

[winter oxide]

o

[hard nexus]

if you want to combat axe

use rashad

[winter oxide]

i will stick to rashad then

[hard nexus]

the others stink

rashad is braindead easy to use

[obsidian prairie]

You should try tac axe though

[hard nexus]

PA for ragers, light spam for everything except unyielding and carapace

never special

and that’s it !

[winter oxide]

i have a tactical axe build that im using

never tried rashad before

[obsidian prairie]

Send it real quick

Tac axe requires a specific roll to work right

[obsidian prairie]

Penetration dump is an issue

I'd try to find a new one with dumped mobility

[tame sluice]

It's not like it will kill armor anyways

[obsidian prairie]

Otherwise all good

[misty nova]

[winter oxide]

how does penetration work?

my swings go through armored mobs?

[obsidian prairie]

More damage to armor

[winter oxide]

oh

[obsidian prairie]

60 vs 80

[winter oxide]

is that a big increase

i cant tell

[obsidian prairie]

Its a 11% increase versus flak, and a 5% increase against cara on lights

[winter oxide]

ok ill make a new one

whats the correct combo for the tactical axe against crushers etc?

[obsidian prairie]

Light spam

[winter oxide]

ive just been spamming lights on the head

ok

[obsidian prairie]

Horde clear for mk7 is Push Attack -> Heavy Attack or Heavy Attack -> Light Attack

The first has better damage but uses stamina so use the second when you run low

[misty nova]

Special stuns crushers as long as you hit their heads
So you can technically go special light special light special light

[winter oxide]

does special spam perma stun the crusher?

[obsidian prairie]

No

[winter oxide]

ok

[obsidian prairie]

They have a stagger cooldown or something

The special is pretty funny though

Will dead stop mutants on a headshot

[misty nova]

Enemies have a time after a stagger where they are immune to stagger
So special spam won't stun lock
That's why you go special light special light loop

[winter oxide]

i see

[winter oxide]

what about rager packs with this weapon?

[obsidian prairie]

Horde clear loop

Heavy and push attack headshots will stagger them out of combos

[winter oxide]

thanks

[remote wasp]

where's ur crusher

[misty nova]

Sorry
Ate it

[winter oxide]

what is the tactical axe not good at?

[obsidian prairie]

Carapace

Its slow at carapace

And unyielding

[winter oxide]

oh

[obsidian prairie]

Not bad, but slow

Bring a bolter

[winter oxide]

ive been using laspistol for every build lol

[obsidian prairie]

Laspistol is a good pick

Great boss damage and can do shooter control

But zero carapace damage so bolter is prefered with tac axe

[winter oxide]

is there a way to quickdraw the bolter?

[obsidian prairie]

Yes actually

[winter oxide]

i dont like it cuz its so slow to pull out

[obsidian prairie]

During the draw use a throwing knife

[winter oxide]

this wont work if i run out of knives?

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah but when are you ever running out of knives

[winter oxide]

idk

[obsidian prairie]

exactly

[winter oxide]

is the tac axe good at boss killing?

[obsidian prairie]

Kinda

Bolter does that really well though

[winter oxide]

ok ill bring a bolter instead

[obsidian prairie]

a good FotF DoD Duelist burst will cut half a health bar off

[winter oxide]

dod?

[obsidian prairie]

Dance of Death

Accuracy and recoil reduction on dodge

[winter oxide]

is this setup fine to use?

[obsidian prairie]

I’d roll over Maniac to Carapace and Surgical and Pinning Fire to Shattering Impact and Puncture

Lands you a 4 shot body shot breakpoint against crushers and helps with boss damage

[winter oxide]

ok

wait collateral is the dump stat

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah but it doesn't really matter

[winter oxide]

collateral is just aoe?

[obsidian prairie]

Its stagger

(and suppression)

[winter oxide]

its fine i have 2 boltguns

[mighty root]

𓄿𓋴𓇋𓄿𓏏𓇋𓎢 𓂧𓅱𓎼 𓆑𓅲𓎢𓈎 𓇌𓅱𓅲

[grizzled aspen]

BIS for zealout is carapace + unyielding damage and shattering + puncture/cavalcade.

[winter oxide]

yup i swapped

[jagged cradle]

@copper hawk are you still free?

[grizzled aspen]

Personally I would use cavalcade.

[tame sluice]

smh using a combat axe skin on a tactical axe

[copper hawk]

yerp

[jagged cradle]

I’m on now

[copper hawk]

me too

idk

i didnt even know that was a thing

LMFAO

[jagged cradle]

@frosty herald come play

[copper hawk]

that's u ..

[median steeple]

it got added this update no?

New Secondary Weapon: Inferno Pistol
Available for Sniper, Heavy, Assault and Vanguard classes.

yar

it did

[misty nova]

Everything

[copper hawk]

horde clear

[obsidian prairie]

Lies

Falsehoods

[copper hawk]

swarms of armored enemies

[jagged cradle]

Send the code when you’re in

[copper hawk]

uh

[obsidian prairie]

Truths

(but what doesn't do poorly in that scenario besides PS or Relic)

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sleep-gif-23970142

[jagged cradle]

You can’t be that tired

I need a carry

[copper hawk]

WDBFX

[jagged cradle]

Ew ainz

I don’t remember inviting you

[plush estuary]

ew wire

I heard you needed a 3rd

[jagged cradle]

Uhhhh

Welllll

I suppose

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/mariachi-dog-dog-toy-high-voltage-meme-funny-gif-16992246158341714924

[jagged cradle]

Beggars can’t be choosers

[plush estuary]

it says 7 min

[jagged cradle]

That’s like 20 TikTok’s

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/online-pet-club-wanwan-happy-excited-anime-gif-5851207893245983183

[jagged cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-gif-2092851540894037985

[jagged cradle]

Says it’s expired

[plush estuary]

or watch 20 at once

[copper hawk]

look mom there i am

[plush estuary]

while playing

[grizzled aspen]

Technically, not good at anything. It relies on brutal momentum so much that not taking it makes it almost nonfunctional. That being said, it is very fast and staggers everything decently well (mk2 can chain heavies and lock an entire horde of ragers) so you can avoid a lot of damage by just swinging.

[copper hawk]

WDBXF

holy shit this melatonin i bought is already kicking in

[jagged cradle]

You took some already?

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine taking melatonin.

[jagged cradle]

At 7?

[plush estuary]

5

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fran-sleep-sleepy-tired-gif-8633431630979404250

[grizzled aspen]

(This post was made by Tylenol pm gang.)

[copper hawk]

i get up at 0400

[jagged cradle]

4am…

Kinda cringe

[grizzled aspen]

(My knees hurt.)

[copper hawk]

yeah

HURRY UP AINZ

HURRY UP !!!

LFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[copper hawk]

actually i think we can start a match adn you can join it late

[jagged cradle]

I could replace ainz with kez

[plush estuary]

yeah

[copper hawk]

idk how to like

make it invite only

1 sec

GET OFF TACTICAL

I NEED 2 LEVEL HIM UP

UR NOT EVEN PRESTIGED

[jagged cradle]

I did !!

[copper hawk]

NOOBE

[jagged cradle]

I don’t care for tacticals prestige perks

Tbh

[carmine falcon]

wdym u dont like 15 more health?

exteremly op pls nerf

half of these prestige perks feel ai generated

[jagged cradle]

Simply don’t get hit

[carmine falcon]

actually real

[copper hawk]

lmfao

i got the more ammo one

15% more ammo is like

2 or 3 more shots

[jagged cradle]

Oh boy

[copper hawk]

i wish i knew when it calculated it

[carmine falcon]

i have the one that heals 40% more stems

[copper hawk]

so u can get 15% after ur other 40% ammo buffs

[jagged cradle]

Also my weapons are grey :3

[copper hawk]

HAVE U NOT PLAYED ANYONE ELSE ??

[tame sluice]

Haven't played Space Marine 2 in ages

Does Sniper still have a monopoly on all of the guns that do damage?

[jagged cradle]

I’m leveling up new weapons!!!

[carmine falcon]

that hasnt been the case in ages

heavy is a nuke machine

tac deals mucho dmg

vanguard is no slouch either

[tame sluice]

yeah but vanguard is a melee class aren't they?

I'm more talking about how near release when it took an entire bolter magazine to not kill a single tyranid elite

[proud scroll]

what havoc builds are peeps running?

[tame sluice]

It's Zealot there's only the one build

[carmine falcon]

a lot of people run it with melta and smgs

[tame sluice]

Oh if the SMGs are actually worth using that means I can meme run melee sniper

[carmine falcon]

meme melee sniper works

really most of the builds work if u just pick the perks that arent poopy

[tame sluice]

are the perks that are bad the same obviously bad ones

[carmine falcon]

if u see a perk that goes like "smile at nids for 5 seconds to deal 1% extra dmg" its a meme perk

[proud scroll]

feel like bosses have been an issue, any thought of using Thammer with this?

[tame sluice]

1% extra damage you say

[carmine falcon]

too op

[obsidian prairie]

No, thammer has terrible finesse

[proud scroll]

yeah but the cooldown reduction and toughness reduction should help bring the bosses down very quickly

[obsidian prairie]

But outside of that it'll be worse than running thammer with any other keystone

[tame sluice]

You'd probably have trouble with the THICK hordes of Havoc

Especially if it's moebian 21st

[obsidian prairie]

Cause it has a 1.3x finesse mod

And yeah also mixed horde

[tame sluice]

You'd also want to run Martyrdom or Momentum instead of Piety

[obsidian prairie]

Mixed horde fucks with thammer in auric

[tame sluice]

Which means no cooldown reduction

If you trust your teammates to clear hordes (you shouldn't because they will most certainly all be using dueling swords if they're not ogryns)

Then it's fine for boss damage

[proud scroll]

yeah tahts waht i was thinking

found my team was struggling with monsteres putting to much pressure, what else has a clean answer to monsterse so I can use a dif build?

[winter oxide]

nice

[winter oxide]

can rashad stun rager packs too?

i guess not

[hard nexus]

push attack

with a couple HT stacks it’ll cleave 3 dreg ragers

[plush estuary]

hmm?

@copper hawk

[copper hawk]

teehee

i 4got 2 set my perks

[plush estuary]

lol

[copper hawk]

lfg

[clever swan]

gnarp

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-attack-gotcha-cat-jump-gif-15732712

https://tenor.com/view/omori-the-dreamer-shopkeep-standing-intro-introduction-gif-3238358706312289556

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mpreg-monday-mpreg-monday-omori-gif-12545140900938369982

[jagged cradle]

Smh

[plush estuary]

I was busy stomping a bug

then diconnected

[copper hawk]

buig

[jagged cradle]

I got stomped

[stable cypress]

poor buig

[copper hawk]

buig !

buiiiig

[sterile basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1306382291781681252/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.13_-_12.57.55.43.mp4?ex=673676d1&is=67352551&hm=68c82723d28b4d4353ad9c06cad9774e6613cbc72b43d320e30c5e58fa8ffc68&

[jagged cradle]

Yippee easy fight

[plush estuary]

he hated me

[jagged cradle]

He went after me that one time

[jagged cradle]

You were the weak link

[plush estuary]

erm

check the damage

[clever swan]

[jagged cradle]

Melta

Opinion invalid

[plush estuary]

shrimple

[copper hawk]

goot nite

[jagged cradle]

Bye bye cica

Thanks for the carry

[plush estuary]

ggs

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guinea-pig-eating-guinea-tones-pig-rory-gif-5892520465357196774

buig..

[spare talon]

the ballsack

[winter oxide]

is that push attack into heavy spam?

[sterile basalt]

light atk

[winter oxide]

ok

[spare talon]

i just realized that all but the very first light were crits

[visual stream]

We really ought to get an ability or blitz that lets us do this

Mind control a crusher

Splat ten ragers

[sterile basalt]

be lucky

[wary finch]

Psyker is so stupidly fucking broken in RT lmao

[visual stream]

My bio psyker was a little underwhelming, at least into ~act 2

I did build him for support and commander stuff though so

Cassia absolutely cracked

Idira not so much

[wary finch]

I ran pyro
Aft halfway thru act 2, maybe start of act 3

I was just melting bosses with the fire beam and wiping crowds with cassia

Theres an item, think it was called demon tool you can give ur characters which causes attacks to ignite

Slapped on cassia, had her use lidless stare with that demon tool

Firestorm from my pyropsyker and the fight was pretty much done in 1-2 turns

[visual stream]

Cassia's lidless stare with whatever buff that stacked damage for every (something) was ridiculously fun

Oh yeah flat +10 damage on every single target xd

[misty nova]

Simply use blooddrinker staff and cast it on Abelard (he literally takes no damage from it lol) then you proceed to heal teammates

[wary finch]

Oh speaking of abelard, that was my other favorite strat
Ignite him, use the other psyker powers (forgot the names) to make him immune to brn damage but keep him alight

Had him running around stacking hella good fire damage on top of what he already normally did

[obsidian prairie]

I just use my RT as a self igniting and hilariously sharp firebomb

[wary finch]

I got a second save ready to go but im waiting for the next dlc

Ion know when its dropping
I heard summer but

[visual stream]

I love how you have to be actively be trying to kill Abelard to threaten him at all

https://tenor.com/view/blood-avengers-thanos-all-that-for-a-drop-of-blood-gif-14955548

Abelard when Argenta fires a point blank heavy bolter burst directly at him

[wary finch]

Abelard's just that guy

He'll be the clutch in my 2nd run
Doing a heretical run
My first was iconoclast with a hint of dogma

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/satan-vs-cell-punching-fight-dragon-ball-gif-15668519

[visual stream]

Abelard gives the same energy as those hampsters that die in horrific ways because they're handled by small children

Except we're the children putting him through the ball grinder and he's just diffing it

[obsidian prairie]

In heretical you can easily out tank him

I’m doing so in mine with a single hp talent (HP scales on medicae instead of Toughness)

And he’s running like 4

[hard nexus]

hewwo chat

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-the-matrix-swerve-lunge-dive-gif-22197111

alternatively

it just goes through him

terminator style

and he just ignores it

[sacred mortar]

what is wrong wi this game, dude ??

[obsidian prairie]

I think he would've fucking died on my iconoclast run

I accidentally overpenned idira with a single round during the final boss and she died instantly

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[hard nexus]

huh

[obsidian prairie]

No amount of built different will save you from an arch militant

[hard nexus]

well

unless ur me

[obsidian prairie]

My dumb ass versus Abelard

[clever swan]

many things. but also, skill issue.

[wary finch]

Ill have to try that bc goddamn lmao

[obsidian prairie]

I also have a casual 185 in medicae for reasons so take it with a grain on salt

[sacred mortar]

yeah sure, not becasue the destiny 2 system is shitty system that relies on numbers in your gear to make thing difficult

[obsidian prairie]

Guh

You can run auric with grey weapons

With certain stuff you'll barely see a difference

[hard nexus]

getting well rolled items is extremely easy

[obsidian prairie]

(purgatus, may it burn)

[hard nexus]

especially in comparison to how it was before

now its quick

[obsidian prairie]

Tee hee

[sacred mortar]

like i said, shitty destiny 2 gear power scalling

[hard nexus]

to the meat grinder with thee

[hard nexus]

its not really shitty though

the game was made with damnation in mind

[sacred mortar]

i guess?? what do i do then ?? the max power i have with weapons is 440

[wary finch]

Fair enough
I didnt really run medicae on my RT

It was all willpower and agility with toughness/fortitude/i dont remember the name

[hard nexus]

keep using the weapon until you level up the mastery,
you can do an auric with a 440 weapon

[obsidian prairie]

I have it cause Bladedancer gets some scaling off it

[hard nexus]

a the difference between 500 and 440 isnt that much

[obsidian prairie]

440 is only missing like 30 points right

Thats a pre patch good roll

[hard nexus]

probably less

[obsidian prairie]

Its 5% spread between all per level right

[hard nexus]

fuck if i know

i just work here

hrm i believe it is war thunder time,,,

[obsidian prairie]

Still 440 was the kinda thing most people ran before SotMG, and with level 3 or even 2 blessings and perks

[hard nexus]

yarp

440 is entirely playable

that wouldnt really affect any BPs that i can think of

except certain specific ones regarding crushers

[obsidian prairie]

Rashad I think

And tac axe probably

[hard nexus]

i was thinking evis

[obsidian prairie]

Of course you were

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis needs a perfect roll and +elites to somewhat consistently one shot crushers on h1 chastise trick

[hard nexus]

god forbid a girl have a hobby

[obsidian prairie]

I need you around more often when people say only X is good in havoc

[hard nexus]

just ping me

[obsidian prairie]

So you can drop a 1.5m with mk3

[hard nexus]

i need 2 play new h40

i havent bothered yet

[obsidian prairie]

I need to play new havoc

Or 40 at all

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[obsidian prairie]

No friends for it

[hard nexus]

yeah

i havent played dt in a while tbh

i also need to play hd2

for the gloom bugs

i like the gloom bugs,,,

[obsidian prairie]

I uninstalled that

[hard nexus]

stinker

imagine not having 4 terabytes

or 6

i forgot

hold on

[obsidian prairie]

Medals cap killed me in literally an instant

[hard nexus]

5

5 terabytes

[opaque island]

play it for the love of the game

[hard nexus]

real

[obsidian prairie]

Boowomp

[obsidian prairie]

I don't really love the game

[hard nexus]

get this bitch an NVME drive

[obsidian prairie]

You have such little control over your character

[hard nexus]

right this meowment !

[hard nexus]

the windows drive is happy and the data drive is sad

[proud scroll]

Is wrath really better then cranial grounding

[hard nexus]

what happened,,,

did they break up,,,

[visual stream]

They removed the titty plant cannonball tech

[obsidian prairie]

Also the music in hd2 is a straight downgrade with the sole exception of extraction

[hard nexus]

for havoc, yes

for aurics, no

[visual stream]

Enjoyment of the game went down 80% with that change alone

[hard nexus]

well, it helps with horde clear but in aurics you dont really need that much more

[proud scroll]

What should be on relic blade for havoc?

[opaque island]

nothing like titty plant canonballing into a bot fort

they never saw it coming

[hard nexus]

i dont remember if its wrath cranial or wrath rampage

i think its wrath rampage

flak elites

or flak carapace

[proud scroll]

Getting bogged down at the 30’s havocs and wanna make sure I’m doing shit right

[obsidian prairie]

I think both work

[hard nexus]

or flak unarmored

[proud scroll]

Why elites?

[visual stream]

The good ol' days...

Especially with medic armor

[hard nexus]

shotgunners, ragers

mainly

but it helps with crushers and bulwarks too

[visual stream]

Made you unkillable for the entire flight and a little after

[opaque island]

incendiary bots suck imo

[obsidian prairie]

Don't they just FF chain once one shoots anothers back

[opaque island]

the devastators will also just one shot you if you dont have fire resist armor

from a good distance too

[hard nexus]

i need silver lions,,,

[obsidian prairie]

I still find this funny

[visual stream]

What part of a devastator deals fire damage?

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[opaque island]

it was a bot legion like the jumpack brigade

or the bug variants

[visual stream]

Ohhh gotcha

[opaque island]

what game

[obsidian prairie]

Rogue Trader

[visual stream]

I feel like their overhaul of the game changed a lil too much

[obsidian prairie]

Grim Darkness is the hardest diff + Ironman rules btw

[visual stream]

The character tankiness was good change and making primaries better was a good change

That probably was all they had to do other than make killing some enemies more consistent

[opaque island]

im good, played through it on normal and was happy enough with my playthrough, waiting for the last dlc to playthrough it again

[obsidian prairie]

And the rash is a 10 point debuff to a few (important) secondary stats

[opaque island]

is the rash a dlc thing?

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

Void shadows

[opaque island]

thought so cause i didnt remember it

[obsidian prairie]

I've played on Daring since my first cause achievements, and not having 1.0 enemy stats felt weird

[visual stream]

Still can't get over how the game stressed the importance that the suggested difficulty was already a hard mode to complete

And it was a cake walk for as far as I played

[wary finch]

The funniest shit ever in RT is just blowing a hole through at least 2 helbrutes, a defiler and at least 2-3 forgefiends

Separate scenarios but still

[obsidian prairie]

Oh you haven't seen the half of it

[opaque island]

worst part of RT is choosing the abilities

it melts my fucking brain

[obsidian prairie]

It gets better

[obsidian prairie]

Skull issue

[visual stream]

It feels so weird at first but when you start understanding it you take less and less time trying to understand what is good for you

[obsidian prairie]

This creature CLEARLY doesn't know how to buildcraft (see the primary stat in a description and press confirm)

[opaque island]

i mean i can figure it out, i just hate sitting there reading all the different abilities to f igure out which is best

[wary finch]

I beat the game already so I already know about the c'tan

And the genestealers, and all that

[opaque island]

its the fact there's just so many to choose from i guess? cause it doesnt bug me in other games

[obsidian prairie]

My issue with the archetype talents is you start to run out of actually useful stuff

Especially for roles like support psyker

And you really start to feel it around Exemplar

[wary finch]

Comorragh is stupidly easier as psyker too

Bc if ur spec'd right
You dont need to rely on the bougie ass guns and melee you have to contend with

[opaque island]

even after the nerf the one that gives turns is still goated

what turn economy?

[visual stream]

"So for every third half of gleebledoop points you have you force the enemy to take five spoingydob, doubled if they fail a Willpower test"

[obsidian prairie]

Or you fucking liquify people anyway cause Bladedancer is balanced

[opaque island]

^

thats hwo it feels to my brain

its not that I cant understand it or figure it out, its just not what i play games for to do math

[obsidian prairie]

Math is a fun bonus if its actually meaningful

[wary finch]

Yea bladedancer is just ignorant
Had kiebellah just bouncing around and clearing waves to the point I didnt really use that 2 step strat with cassia anymore

[opaque island]

officer!

thats what it was called

[obsidian prairie]

Oh I knew full well it was fucked going in so I ran it as my RT

Heretical Pyro Bladedancer Executioner

I boardsweep and drop 300 damage sword swings

[opaque island]

gets to a point where argenta just absolutely FUCKS everything with a rapid fire bolter that doesnt ever need to reload

felt so good, esp when she gets the Power Armor

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah that was the mistake I made my first run

Play an officer for my RT

When you play an officer RT you make someone else the main character

I have avoided doing so in my subsequent runs

[opaque island]

nah, i didnt mind, cause i took it more as like, im the commander giving orders with my buffs and shit

plus i eventually got the psyker sword of the emp

or whatever

and it fucked shit up too

[obsidian prairie]

I did an Iconoclast Soldier Arch Militant (heavy weapons) for my second run and holy fuck

The first half of the act 4 boss was a struggle

[opaque island]

felt really good personally killing the chaos version of myself with that sword too

[obsidian prairie]

and the second half was a single 3000 damage burst attack

[visual stream]

I usually enjoy making my MC a support character in games where it's at least fun to do so

So that's chill with me

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah I can see that

[visual stream]

Mine didn't really get too interesting though

[obsidian prairie]

But here it was literally pressing three buttons and then running Argenta as the player character

[wary finch]

Running the mod for DW'ing a psyker staff and force sword at once is nuts

Had the purga staff that shot those fireballs and that same sword

Hardly touched my actual abilitiies outside of magma beam bc the shit from those two weapons was so overpowered

[visual stream]

Probably because comparatively Cassia does most of what MC does as another officer AND boils peoples' skin off en masse

[obsidian prairie]

This was during 1.0 as well so there was old officer and the Wildfire bug (rest in fucking peace 14 versatility stacks off one action)

[opaque island]

dont forget cassia and yrliet too

they werent slouches either

[obsidian prairie]

Cassia was also made into Argenta's action slave with the benefit of one shotting some random trash enemy and Yrliet could never act in time late game

[opaque island]

although...the space marine did replace yrliet for me...Ur...fuck i cant remember his name

[obsidian prairie]

Yrliet was much better my second run as I figuired out during the first that Bounty Hunter operatives are dedicated armor and deflection shredders

[obsidian prairie]

Ulfar was super fucking buggy in 1.0 and I stopped liking him because of it

He also has a habit of eating an extreme amount of shit for no reason

He would just get 2 tapped where abelard would just take 10 points and regen it next turn

Oh yeah and his build variety sucks immensely

2 sets of armor, 3 helmets, 2 capes, 1 pair of boots

[opaque island]

"Abelard see that heretic over there?" yes Lord Captain "I dont want to see it anymore"

[obsidian prairie]

and no weapons

[opaque island]

It helped i was playing on "normal"

cause he was a proper tank for me

nothing would get past him, basically just putting a wall in the way of a path i wantaed blocked

[obsidian prairie]

Who

[opaque island]

ulfar

[obsidian prairie]

Did you play before they fixed him?

[opaque island]

I dont know tbh, it was like 4-5 months before void shadows came out that i played it

[obsidian prairie]

so no

[opaque island]

my perception of time from back then is kinda fucked, from weed and alchohol

[obsidian prairie]

His unique charge was the buggiest fucking thing on the planet

It would do one of a few things

[obsidian prairie]

A: He would charge and then attack with his pistol for no reason

B: He would charge and not attack

C: He wouldn't charge

[opaque island]

I had that same problem with abelard tbf

though alot less often

[obsidian prairie]

or D: He would ignore movement restrictions and charge to 0,0 on the map

[opaque island]

Never had D happen though, that sounds funny

[opaque island]

that is an interesting image that paints

[obsidian prairie]

Its funny until you're in the Defiler fight and he runs 60 tiles away into a corner and is MIA for the rest of the fight

Also

(not that run it was my iconoclast)

[opaque island]

I feel like as Iconoclast you basically become an Emperor lite version by the end, esp if you make the right choices with nomos

spoilers i guess?

[obsidian prairie]

You become the ideal of the Emperor, and what he wanted to be

[opaque island]

who would've thought that actually caring about the people in your empire while not easy sometimes, does actually work

[obsidian prairie]

It also involves some totally braindead decision making but hey

[opaque island]

though who could say it would work irl fictional media making your choices ideal and all that

[obsidian prairie]

The dialogue option said iconoclast

[opaque island]

some of them were definitely naive and would not have worked out the way they do irl

I like to think of it as our influence just gets so strong it makes it work out

when im saying irl i guess i mean more if we werent the "Main Character"

[hard nexus]

mreowowow

should i

helldiver

i think so

[opaque island]

do diff 10

solo

[hard nexus]

i dont play anything other than diff 10

[hard nexus]

lazy

dont wanna spend the entire match avoiding enemies

[opaque island]

anyways, rogue trader is a good game, if you havent you should play it

[hard nexus]

wait

are the gloom missions gone again

fuck

i think they are

weehhhhh

welp

no hd2 today !

[opaque island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwsPyJ0sOs im leaving you with this song before i go play something

[hard nexus]

welp

it is rot time

[sacred mortar]

so ..... should try to get better gear ??

[stable cypress]

yes

[obsidian prairie]

Oh thats why everything sucks

You're running the worst melee

[sacred mortar]

hehe

thats all i have right now

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah run like

Anything

except a mk1 dclaw

[sacred mortar]

do i impower it ??

[obsidian prairie]

No

Run anything else

[sacred mortar]

do i improve ... anything ??

[stable cypress]

If you really like dclaw then the other marks are both much better

[sacred mortar]

i dont, is just what i have ion the highest level

[stable cypress]

you can switch marks if you have them unlocked thru weapon mastery

[regal coyote]

you can switch mks if high enough mastery via inspect

[sacred mortar]

ill use this one

this are highest melle weapons i have in mastery

[obsidian prairie]

cool mastery fact

It only costs like 300000 dockets to go from 0-20

[sacred mortar]

and this ones on ranged weapons

[regal coyote]

but that aint as fun

[obsidian prairie]

More fun than playing with shit gear

[regal coyote]

depends on teh weapon i suppose

[sacred mortar]

what do i do then ??

[feral ferry]

has relic blade gotten better since release?

[obsidian prairie]

No

[feral ferry]

lol thank you

[obsidian prairie]

Why would have it gotten better

Its already amazing

[misty ravine]

They just did a balance pass on its blessings, there was a nonzero chance that one of them could have actually made it better

[plush estuary]

I accepted a level 38 zealot to my 36 havoc
and he added his level 35 friend

I love new players

so cute

[sacred mortar]

ok, idk what to do anyomore

[sacred mortar]

oh well

[bitter anvil]

@sullen forge @copper hawk
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046919438961750028/1361832207261503508/love_at_the_giant.mp4?ex=68003093&is=67fedf13&hm=3900d2ae67a1d4a0e10fc957225848dc933facbd8c4dc60fb35c5a83752a1f36&

[sacred mortar]

tes!!!!!!!!

finally completed a maelstrom mission

[nova dust]

W

applaud this man now

are heresy matches still absolutely hit or miss?

[acoustic dune]

the life wizard

[sacred mortar]

now to do a havoc mission

[nova dust]

i wish thee luck fellow traveller

[acoustic dune]

i wish you bad luck

[sacred mortar]

thx, i think still stick to heavy eviscerator from now on

[nova dust]

i wish you havoc demotion

[acoustic dune]

good

[nova dust]

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/jeong43va-bread-cat-stepping-in-cake-gif-1223109607655750048

me when i get you

[slate haven]

If you load into the twins mission, hit the bells, go down to fight the twins and die you get hella wep mastery

I just farmed all mine out on a Saturday ngl

[sacred mortar]

which one ??

combat axe is still the highest wepon i have mastered

[clever swan]

use combat axe, i suppose. it's a pretty good weapon

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

i love this

[lone matrix]

uses the achlys one

[bitter anvil]

Never been cod stuff I get some little of meme and older meme.

@hard nexus

[hearty nebula]

Chat I"m bored should I jump off the nearest bridge

[bitter anvil]

Go higher

To Mount Everest

[hearty nebula]

It's no fun if there's no actual bodyparts for people to scoop up

[bitter anvil]

Then do insurance fraud

[acoustic dune]

what are you bambling

your body will be there for eternity

[acoustic dune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/612248717654753291/1017178117284057138/69050D97-0FC8-4B6E-BCA2-1B29A84FF122.gif

[bitter anvil]

Drown the dog with the dog milk

[hard nexus]

i didn’t play ogryn til i had like

400-500 levels on zealot

[plush estuary]

Got to level 700 on psyker then did 500 on zealot then did like 300 on vet then I did ogryn

Something like that

But my 1st character was a ogryn

[bitter anvil]

Me

Then I gone to veteran a lot

In past

[hard nexus]

i hadn’t even made an ogryn til then

and i didn’t play ogryn

i just had cole help boost me

because i just didn’t enjoy playing ogryn at all

[tame sluice]

my first was Zealot since I assumed it would be a more comfortable transition from Vermintide

[bitter anvil]

I thought ogryn is tank guy with heavy weapon but it has awful accuracy in reality at past updates

[hard nexus]

so once i had ogryn at 30 i barely played him

i think my ogryn is level 34 total rn

or maybe 36

[bitter anvil]

in past updates

[hard nexus]

deadshot but without the stamina per shot cost

but powercreep isn’t thaaaaaaat bad right guys

riiiight guys

it’s not thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat bad

[tame sluice]

deadshot gives you crit chance

[hard nexus]

oh that’s true

but still

it’s a dumb part of it

that it’s got per shot cost

[tame sluice]

yeah

also the whole draining stamina thing on a class that has the worst stamina management in the game

[hard nexus]

lmfao

true

i don’t get why zealot doesn’t have any stam regen delay modes

[tame sluice]

would genuinely rather it cost like 5% toughness to shoot or something

[hard nexus]

i think zealot should get one

only 1

whenever there’s a rework

[sullen forge]

Reminder that slam paired with Concentrate

You get refunded equal amounts of stamina back

Aka

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[tame sluice]

why even bother with that you're an ogryn

[sullen forge]

Dead shot with no Crit but no stamina cost

[hard nexus]

abysmal dogshit

[tame sluice]

just get shot on purpose

instant full stamina

[hard nexus]

just

[sullen forge]

Heavy stubber sniping lmao

[hard nexus]

let me at the devs

[sullen forge]

Like literally

[bitter anvil]

“Get back in the fight”node

[hard nexus]

just let me at them

i can fix this game

so eepy

i had crab legs for the first time in like 10 years earlier today

they were pretty good

crawfish kinda suck though

[sullen forge]

Watching Veteran VOC get nerfed in regards to changes to vet and Ogryn and Psyker get massively dumpstered

[hard nexus]

tastes like boiled chicken

and some of them were kinda nasty

[hard nexus]

i hope ogryn and psyker get gutted

like how a certain playtester

wants zealot to be gutted

for some fucking reason

[bitter anvil]

What do ya really want?

Gut every class?

[tame sluice]

zealot deserves to be gutted, but they also deserve a rework to their talent tree first

[hard nexus]

i want the powercreep to be curbed

so yes basically

[sullen forge]

It’s funny cause the Build TM is so solid it’s obviously incredibly strong but like literally every single other choice

[hard nexus]

i want ogryn and psyker massively nerfed

[bitter anvil]

I agree that statement

[sullen forge]

Is abysmal dog shit

[hard nexus]

i want vet to get rebalanced

[sullen forge]

So you have literally only 1 build

[hard nexus]

and i want every other path made viable on zealot

[tame sluice]

it is incredible how everything outside of The build™️ is so comically bad

How is every single node so fucking garbage

[hard nexus]

the main path on zealot needs a couple of nerfs, but what zealot needs immediately is buffs to the other paths

[sullen forge]

Vet needs reshuffling it’s suffering a far less drastic fate that Zealot is now seeing well

[hard nexus]

and grenades like ogryn

[hard nexus]

yarp that’s what i mean

i remember back when vet was the worst problem…

[sullen forge]

1 build, you path through VOC and everything extremely good is too taxing

[sullen forge]

Tragedy

[tame sluice]

Ogryn talent tree is well designed but they have overtuned nodes that need to be nerfed

[hard nexus]

yah

[hard nexus]

they just need a lot of numerical nerfs really

not much in the way of reworks

[sullen forge]

I think it’s fucking hilarious I managed to make a Weapon Specialist but like 100x better on Ogryn LMAO

[hard nexus]

yeah

abysmal dogshit

!!

[sullen forge]

BLO Keystone with melee and just equally invest into both melee and ranged talents

Start outperforming every vet in the match

🚬

[brisk raft]

Should martyrdom branch be reworked?

[sullen forge]

I think Ogryn may be a weeee bit strong

[hard nexus]

do you mean the entire middle path? or just martyrdom and martyrs purpose

[austere grail]

Ogryn seems to be the best havoc class rn

[hard nexus]

it’s the best class period

[brisk raft]

Entire

[hard nexus]

except a flame staff psyker probably

[austere grail]

Oggy probably tops that

IMO

[brisk raft]

Wouldn't mind if martyrdom scales with health percentage instead of wounds haha

[hard nexus]

the entire middle path except for anoint in blood, purge the unclean, and i guess shield of contempt are all worthless

the weird subclass of gun zealot is just useless

[hearty nebula]

I should probably wrap my thumb in gauze The skin on my knuckle has been peeling off

[hard nexus]

martyrs purpose needs to be CDR dependent on your health missing

[brisk raft]

Psyker needs to spam m1 on flame staff to make space.

Ogryn dodges once and his fatass clears a path.

[hard nexus]

+2 wounds talent needs to be made innate to martyrdom

[hearty nebula]

[sullen forge]

Honestly like 30-40% of psyker builds can outdamage Ogryn it’s just

[hearty nebula]

just pull out your melee you buffoon

[hard nexus]

martyrdom needs to add total damage reduction, not just toughness

[sullen forge]

Ogryn also has a thing called

Being actually fucking unkillable

They don’t even have TDR they just have raw DR

[brisk raft]

Unless they somehow bring back the ranged penetration effect the zealot abilities had on guns last time, more balanced of course

[hard nexus]

hammer of faith, unremitting, emperors bullet, sainted gunslinger, fortitude in fellowship, voice of terra, and restoring faith are all bad

restoring faith has a niche use on martyrdom with the health stacking

but the health regen talents are all on opposite paths

[sullen forge]

So much abysmal dog shit talents

[hard nexus]

so you cannot take them reasonably

so it just sucks

[median steeple]

time to see if my pc can run rivals and snarktide

[eternal ivy]

What armor type are the cultist summoners

[hard nexus]

not to mention forcing pathing to the grenades

[sullen forge]

You will like your immo nades

You will enjoy using them

[median steeple]

I love immo nades

[hard nexus]

if restoring faith and bleed for the emperor were next to each other in the middle path

[tranquil grail]

unless its a cracked player on scriers im almost always top damage on ogryn after the rework

[hard nexus]

that’d be so nice

[tranquil grail]

90% of psykers just spam smite

[hard nexus]

what difficulty do u play on

and what servers

because i dont see smite psykers very often anymore

[tranquil grail]

auric damnation exclusively

[hard nexus]

hrm

weird

[hearty nebula]

auric damn

[sullen forge]

Actively kicking them

[tranquil grail]

unles im with friends

[hearty nebula]

yeah

[hard nexus]

ur name isn’t bloodborne reference….

[hearty nebula]

no

but i brought amygdala back into the fold

lol

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-libra-gif-23610814

this is kinda what i look like tbh

[hearty nebula]

nuh uh

[obtuse garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/stewly-blume-stares-cat-meme-orange-gif-15920521806815485152

[hard nexus]

am i meant to know who this is ?

[hearty nebula]

no because i wouldn't dare subject them into speaking here unless it was of their own accord

[hard nexus]

hrm

[hearty nebula]

[tranquil grail]

this chat hasnt talked about getting r'd by dogs so its the most normal one so far

[median steeple]

whar

[blissful swallow]

🤨

[hearty nebula]

someone in soyker chat was talking about how their dog got r'd the other day

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/eeeeeee-skeleton-skeleton-shield-bash-shield-bash-gif-1555122457899220774

[hearty nebula]

lol

[hard nexus]

fascinating

[hearty nebula]

yeah

this one's only "normal" if you discount the fact we have all the freaky people

[median steeple]

spreading psykeritus to my friends who don't talk in here

[sullen forge]

This the average Soyker interaction or something

[tranquil grail]

i opened psyker chat looking to see what alls going on with them because im struggling to see its point currently and the first thing i see is that convo

good first impression

[sullen forge]

I’ve only seen in there countless times where they’ve proven they lack in melee combat heavily

[median steeple]

No one is normal here it's a 40k discord server tbh

[sullen forge]

Lmao

[obtuse garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735574

[hearty nebula]

here i have zealot chat in a nutshell for you

[obtuse garnet]

smykers^

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473062374400589828/1359279250951114892/20E14ED7-2415-4223-965D-EDB6AF39EA50.gif

• furries

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-hippo-shower-cute-wash-gif-5744567428133534223

[plush estuary]

@tranquil grail is that ebisu pfp?

[hard nexus]

speak for yourself

[mint brook]

@sterile basalt

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-sure-you-sure-about-that-dog-watching-gif-26139783

[mint brook]

How about this?

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-off-you-go-buddy-stop-talking-shut-up-cat-gif-6537719904311400203

[tranquil grail]

it is yes hello fellow dorohedoro enjoyer

[plush estuary]

Hallo

I knew I recognized those eyes

Need to re read it

[hard nexus]

too many dead end nodes

[hearty nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352279222013657141/1352693019257864192/Untitled_Artwork.gif

[jagged cradle]

I think that’s a hammer

[mint brook]

Is that an issue tho?

[hard nexus]

yah

spending a point that cannot chain into anything else

really only happens on blitz and keystones and abilities

[sullen forge]

That’s what I noticed

[hard nexus]

shouldn’t happen that often on normal talents

[brisk raft]

Right now Zealot players are strong through sheer skill

I wonder how if their talent tree gets refined like Ogryns

[sullen forge]

You want to avoid that to enable hybridization with trees

[hard nexus]

some people want the class gutted

sadly

[sullen forge]

Ogryn is literally the best example for a tree that allows hybridization

And is probably why it’s so overpowered right now

[hard nexus]

i want ogryn nuked and beaten with hammers right this moment

[tranquil grail]

zealot is definitely in 2nd for me rn for class balance, ogryn is dummy strong

[brisk raft]

All because they cant keep up with Zealot players

[hard nexus]

oooohhhh caatshaaarrrkkk

kill them!

kill them now!

[tranquil grail]

unless its a disabler i just dont care

[hard nexus]

this but entirely unironically

[tranquil grail]

it is hold w simulator

[mint brook]

No

[frosty herald]

Click m1 all toughness back

[mint brook]

Ogryn has been trash for the longest time propped up by a select few

[hard nexus]

ogryn, psyker, vet and zealot are approximately equal but i think vet is slightly better

[polar nexus]

i frames on every dodge

[mint brook]

Nerf some of the problems sure, but remember ogryn is an all or nothing class

[hard nexus]

the class is the most overpowered class in the game

it needs to be nerfed

significantly

[heady rapids]

ogryn found shot in the bronx

[hard nexus]

along with psyker

[hard nexus]

branx*

[mint brook]

I mean he kinda needs to be the strongest? If you get what i mean

[sullen forge]

Ogryn doing Zealot and Vets job better in every way

[hearty nebula]

ogryn went from the most miserable play to being both overpowered and boring

[tranquil grail]

ogryn =/= zealot > vet > psyker is where im currently at after putting a bit of time into each of them

[heady rapids]

mfw I literally had a brain fart like that not that long ago

[wary finch]

Nightclub shooting
6 ogryn found dead
One with a bully club shoved up its ass

[polar nexus]

i don't mind ogryns being op tbh, if it means more players trying the class

[sullen forge]

Zealots and Vets when a HHI Ogryn or BLO Ogryn joins the match

[tranquil grail]

i thought psyker was really strong at first but it just doesnt have good asnwers to bosses or armor comparatively

[hard nexus]

no, he doesn’t

[heady rapids]

bosses kinda unless you're running laspistol but his anti armor is insanely good

[hard nexus]

both are solved by psyker’s extremely OP melee options

[mint brook]

Like he has the worst dodge, biggest hitbox, one of the worst sprint speeds and maintenance, which all are massive downers.

[brisk raft]

Gun Psyker has good boss damage ...IF they still have ammo

[heady roost]

i don't mind the stronk bois but the stubber shouldn't be able to snipe things as easily as it does
stop stealing my kills, yours sincerely, a very sad veteran

[tranquil grail]

yeah this was my issue

[heady rapids]

all of his weps have good adms and access to uncanny..........

[tranquil grail]

if you have ammo its all good

[solar gorge]

dw zealot will become the next boring powercreeping win button when it gets reworked

[tranquil grail]

you have your answer

[hard nexus]

yah but he shouldn’t be able to light spam a daemonhost or chaos spawn to death without dodging by just out healing it

[polar nexus]

https://youtu.be/U2Ig4sMURdc?si=Dq6SkBZaR1QYvS02

[hard nexus]

ogryn needs to be strong in some respects, i agree

[heady rapids]

soulblaze also works

[sullen forge]

Or blocking

Teehee

[mint brook]

Ogryn guns bad ammo management tho compared to other classes

[hard nexus]

but nowhere NEAR to the current level he’s at

[hearty nebula]

no lol

[brisk raft]

Not Rumbler Gunlugger

[heady rapids]

ogryn literally has free shots

[sullen forge]

This is a joke right

[hard nexus]

this point is moot because you can press F and remove a boss at basically any point in the match

[hearty nebula]

that's just an example of being wasteful

[mint brook]

Thats why i say he should be the strongest, but calling for a nuke is bad, i say adjustments are needed sure

[hard nexus]

no it needs to be gutted

adjustments would just be slight numerical nerfs

[sullen forge]

GG, Rumbler, Kickback, really any fire one bullet gun on Ogryn paired with Melee BLO

[hard nexus]

they need to be very significant

[tranquil grail]

i used gs as well as illisi primarily, duelling sword is a great answer to literally everything ofc but im bored to tears playing it

• everyone has ds

[sullen forge]

you have infinite ammo

[hard nexus]

in order to curb some of the power creep

[mint brook]

Other classes can do that too tho

[brisk raft]

Also which Relic Sword is most fave?

[solar gorge]

powercreep will only be dealt with by powercreeping the current powercreep harder, y'all should know this by now

[heady rapids]

run fgs!!!!!!!!

[tranquil grail]

the only class i throw ds on is vet because all other melees are miserable in some way

[heady rapids]

whichever you like more is the correct answer

[hard nexus]

but ogryn’s also works for literally any threat in the game, not just bosses (like shroud field) or requiring at least SOME aim (like exec stance)

[frosty herald]

Mk2

[polar nexus]

ah yes, rashad so miserable, power sword so terrible

[tranquil grail]

i do yeah, sorry i shorten it to gs since im used to dark souls pvp

[heady rapids]

Also try out the fuckinnnn

[polar nexus]

knife T_T

[heady rapids]

Og force sword

[hard nexus]

ogryn’s raw damage output combined with absurd survivability and crowd control are just too much

[brisk raft]

Is it just me or is FGS superior to Illisi?

[heady rapids]

They gave it a new attack and it has a good st combo rn

I think

[sullen forge]

I mean at least with EStance you have to also realize the Vet has a finite resource they have to slowly rack up through survivalist again to nuke another boss

[hard nexus]

yarp

[polar nexus]

not the same use

[sullen forge]

Ogryn can kinda just BLO abuse

[heady rapids]

Illisi has more mobility overall

[hard nexus]

abysmal dogshit in MY darktide?????

[heady rapids]

and eh idk

[tranquil grail]

enjoy spamming power on power sword
rashad is overrated and has negative aura from its sound design being ass
knife is only good as a safety stick otherwise just run ds

[hard nexus]

fgs is as bad as ds4

so yah

[sullen forge]

Fun fact VOC is still obviously overpowered

[polar nexus]

lmao

[mint brook]

Shroudfield can be made to work on other enemies too tho. Sure their primary is bonking the big guy for free, but in calling for nerf on lugger of all things i have to disagree vehemently

[brisk raft]

But but but my long range beam slash fires up my neurons

[sullen forge]

But taunt is literally VOC lite now but with multiple toughness pulses

[frozen kernel]

"Rashad is overrated, just use DS"

Holy fuck Meow wasnt kidding, there is abysmal dogshit in here

[polar nexus]

rashad is overrated > yeah, right, are you serious mate?

[sullen forge]

Shits wild

[hard nexus]

30 (or 10 with IoD) second cooldown for one hit