zealot-class

[zinc talon]

25% more rending to staggered enemies

if I rev up, then hit something with a saw

does that immediately count as stunning them for the duration of my saw attack?

basically, when I saw things does opportunist give more damage on that same swing

or a subsequent hit, like skullcrusher or some other blessing that has to land once to apply stacks and then does its thing on subsequent swings

[small pulsar]

what enemies are considered specialists?

[mild sparrow]

They're all grouped together in the psychanium

Flamers, bombers, snipers, muties, hounds, trappers, bursters

[left needle]

Easy way to remember is "any unique enemy that isn't a boss, Ogryn or upgrade to a common enemy"

[acoustic dune]

why is there a femboy ogryn

in my zealot chat

[left needle]

Yes

[acoustic dune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/612248717654753291/1017178117284057138/69050D97-0FC8-4B6E-BCA2-1B29A84FF122.gif

anyhow

i havent gotten my fix yet

bandit has yet gotten me ferrets

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[small pulsar]

also do unyielding enemies count also as unarmored or no

[left needle]

I would assume not but I'm unsure

[mild sparrow]

No, unyielding and unarmoured are different

Dreg gunners are unarmoured

Reapers are unyielding

[acoustic dune]

unyelding seem to be more only on ogryn

and boss

[mild sparrow]

You can shoot them in the psychanium and see the armour type

[rose plume]

Damage against carapace

[cinder roost]

Each part of each enemy (non boss) is a different armor type. The chest armour is the base armor type, which affects dots (bleed, fire).

[sterile stone]

[stone fern]

he played excise vault like a hold out event

and ping spammed until i dropped the medipack exactly at his feet while we did the event

[mint gorge]

Is it still best to just have unyielding/maniac dmg perks on the Relic Blade if you've already got the 20% against unyielding/infested on the skill tree?

[grizzled aspen]

No carapace is a bust on rb.

Need carapace to 1shot crushers with chastise poke.

[mint gorge]

That makes sense, carapace/maniac dmg then?

[grizzled aspen]

I take carapace unyielding.

Ragers pose little threat because I can either tknife or draw laspistol/autopistol and remove them safely.

[obtuse garnet]

tuff

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/splash-spash-taking-out-the-excess-water-shower-time-to-my-tiny-noodle-ferret-gif-4741322777827866773

[sterile stone]

@sullen forge

[solar gorge]

damn

[stone fern]

me

[solar gorge]

fortnite's UI changed a lot

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-sad-crying-wipes-tears-wiping-tears-gif-24991919

[small pulsar]

chorus or fury is better

[acoustic dune]

both is great

[stone fern]

theyre different abilities they dont do the same things but fury is more fun

[acoustic dune]

but fury is most pick

[small pulsar]

is chorus with martyrdom on relic blade viable

[acoustic dune]

ey...
chorus iz as fun

[acoustic dune]

use chorus as a panic buttom

[elfin thorn]

depends what u wanna do ig since they do different jobs i feel.
fury is nice and versatile, good mix of offense and defense, while chrous is good team support and allows u to push through more dire situations

[small pulsar]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[acoustic dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302714535991578766/1319002116550955098/ezgif-4-7c8f8fcfc2.gif

@stone fern

[acoustic dune]

or as a push

i like to use it to doge in a horde of gunner

or bulkwark

[small pulsar]

im compensating for no fury with revolver

[acoustic dune]

and stab them in da face

[small pulsar]

so i dont need to gap close

[elfin thorn]

nice

[small pulsar]

i suppose

i have to go benediction if im martyr

[acoustic dune]

marty with relic blade

i would say

[elfin thorn]

would help u survive well

[acoustic dune]

rival with thammer

[small pulsar]

is desperation and bleed for the emperor even good

[elfin thorn]

im a thammer enjoyer

[lone matrix]

had yesterday a martyr with evicerator did good damage but dropoed multiple times

[vast basin]

Bleed for the emperor is not good, desperation is ok only on certain weapons

But I would still never take it

[small pulsar]

i have 4 skill points left

what do i go

cause i feel like purge the unclean can be nice

[vast basin]

What weapon you got

[small pulsar]

for bosses

relic blade

[vast basin]

Take sustained assault and ptu

[small pulsar]

aight

[elfin thorn]

i will hopefully live enough to kill a boss

[small pulsar]

also which relic blade mark is better

[acoustic dune]

go right side for more damage

[lone matrix]

uhm depends

[vast basin]

I prefer mk10

[elfin thorn]

it's fair game to get my ass handed left and right so long as i fulfill the quota 🙏

[lone matrix]

i prefer mk2

[small pulsar]

yeah i kinda fw

mk2

cause i like single target damage

[elfin thorn]

i haven't used relic swords so can't say for me 🥸

[lone matrix]

relic blades have the weird thing they work similar good but have bit different attack chain routes

[small pulsar]

3 wound curios 💔

[lone matrix]

martyrer

[elfin thorn]

3 wound curios 😼

[lone matrix]

martyrdom the only reason to use 3 wound curios

[small pulsar]

also

what blessings do i run

for mk2

[elfin thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-edit-i-saw-what-you-edited-i-saw-gif-27672816

[vast basin]

I think cranial+rampage is what people run for relic sword

sub in wrath for havoc

[lone matrix]

perky

[small pulsar]

is heatsink good?

[vast basin]

cranial is seen as better because it also gives damage

[small pulsar]

what if i use both...

[mild sparrow]

Losing out on rampage is noticeable if you're running both

[small pulsar]

even on mk2?

[mild sparrow]

Yes

[small pulsar]

aight

btw what do auric levels even change

[mild sparrow]

They are HI-Intensity by default

More enemies, more specials allowed on the map at once

[lone matrix]

is fun

[mild sparrow]

Extra modifiers are more common too

[stone fern]

pretty sure theyre also more than normal high intensity

[mild sparrow]

The swings are wild tbh

Can double your kills on some maps lol

[grave nebula]

Does Zealot have a specific role or is Zealot more of a "jack of all trades"?

I feel like Zealot has really good horde clear, survivability, support AND great damage against bosses

[lone matrix]

lights out =darkness flashlight recommended
ventilation purge=smoke screen with mote snipers
hunting grounds =hound groups with less health
pox gas =fart gases which reduce tgoughness and without thoughness corruption damage but more heal stims
shock troops = even more elite

[elfin thorn]

u could def build zeal to be jack of all trades

[zinc talon]

Did an entire mortis trial

3 ogri, completely dominated it

[lone matrix]

did i miss one beside extras for maelstrom?

[elfin thorn]

rn i just have my guy as a nut buster
usin' thammer to crack open anything in my path

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-into-space-liz-birdsworth-wentworth-thinking-staring-blankly-gif-22820474

[elfin thorn]

bruh

[zinc talon]

it must only count for your kills in there I guess?

[lone matrix]

gunlugger go

[lone matrix]

yeah

[mild sparrow]

Depends on build a bit. Chorus is more defensive front liner. Fotf lets you make the push into enemy lines and shut down dangerous enemies.

Shroudfield for memes and trolling your teammates

[zinc talon]

welp that explains why zealot got four contracts done like last month it was so quick

and her 1000 kills with melee is like, 500

I'm really enjoying mortis tho

[lone matrix]

stealth backstabs heavy elites

[zinc talon]

if it had an infinite scaling thing you could back out of at certain instances ranks of wave clear I dunno if I'd play anything else

[elfin thorn]

is mk15 heavy evis good for havoc? i tried it with piety, benediction, and chrous to help out, but couldn't tell if it was the modifiers overwhelming or my build

fighting bruisers specifically was a bane to my existence lol

[zinc talon]

I prefer something with more instant on crowd control and dismiss

and I feel like both evis models tempt you into getting locked up single t arget to single target when what could be more helpful is long-reach stagger and suppression

but to answer your question I picked up the OG evis by mistake at the start of a mission and by the end I was glad I fucked up on the v ariant

the OG chainsword is a ton more fun to actually use

[mint brook]

So i am done with the trees layout guys, what do you all think of it?

People kept complaining the zealot tree is sort of just boring, so i tried my hand on it

Mind you, images are placeholder

[small pulsar]

ive got an idea...

[mint brook]

Did that

Its a fun build for quick panick shots

[real sonnet]

Can't freely choose blitz :(

[mint brook]

Oh you mean like a single node connecting to all blitzes?

[real sonnet]

Something like that yeah

[sterile stone]

@stone fern Listening and looking at random pubbers not understand basic instructions plastered on their screen in massive text is hurting my soul

Illiteracy can't be this damn common man

[mint brook]

I will look into it, i have been trying for quiet some time, btw, you do not have more nodes on this tree iirc than on the older zealot tree

I kept getting feedback that this tree has way too many nodes

Idea is to have choice of 12 nodes on each section with some rare base nodes here and there

[lean cairn]

I want this but with those actual abilities

[mint brook]

Actual abilities?

Could you be specific, so i know if i am already working on it or if it is something i forgot to do

[lone matrix]

shown nodes with infos

if not shanged the nodes which already exist with name and perhaps pics

[mint brook]

Ah thats in the works 🙂

Here is some of it (placements need to be decided)

All numbers can be up for interpretation and is an aim to merely be close to balanced values

So expect many issues in a lot of the numbers

[visual stream]

Would consecrated mind include the grenade damage itself?

[sterile stone]

Aye now hold on...

How did fam get a little title card on their name

That shit is clean

[misty nova]

Make sure to get sainted Gunslinger as well

[ornate bone]

I've never seen that before, must be new?

[sterile stone]

I'm guessing it's one of those experimental things discord is pushing out to random accounts

Like the look of it though

[ornate bone]

Looks kinda cool

[sterile stone]

Truth

[merry flume]

there was someone else here that had a profile background but he got banned for being toxic :)

[pale spindle]

Everything is CC

[clever swan]

omg i had a dream peets came back. I think tonight was my fever dream night cuz i had like 5 different dreams that were weird

[regal coyote]

👀

hopefully there’s a cherry blossom one for my gf

[signal spoke]

Pretty sure there is one or close enough

[clever swan]

another thing to lament not having full nitro over

[regal coyote]

oof

might have to drop nitro, moving out

gotta start paying for everything

[sterile basalt]

Top half looks super cursed ngl

[mint brook]

Thatd be funny but no

[mint brook]

I would say yes, idea was to give the nade a bit more damage vs target it usually doesnt do so well against if you wanna spend the additional talent point

[mint brook]

Can you explain, thats one i didnt hear before

[signal spoke]

Or pay with real money

[sterile basalt]

7 talents on the same row
Talent tax for switching branches
Blitz takes as many as 4 pathing points to switch branches

[clever swan]

i do tho

i just have nitro classic so i am highly discouraged (if i want to keep nitro classic) from canceling it.

i even have a year of full nitro just sitting on my account cuz i took it from a guy who shared it to a server of friends (this guy in particular i did not know so i basically took it selfishly)

[mint brook]

Sceenshotted for later, thanks for the info

[sterile basalt]

4 point travel tax should only really be considered if it’s a super conscious decision u want to enforce onto players

[mint brook]

Well to that i got a question, what if the travel came with a strong node on that long path?

[sterile basalt]

how strong

[sterile stone]

Waiting to see if there's a fall one.

Them orange leaves and breeze hit different.

A vibe unmatched.

[wary finch]

Lmao

[pure tree]

@copper hawk

[clever swan]

4chan noo!!! the bastion of quality thinking!!!!!

[heady rapids]

@frosty herald hows the update

[nova dust]

being hacked by a member of the “Soyjack Party” is something i did not expect on my 2025 bingo card

[clever swan]

honestly surprised it didnt have 10 slurs as its name

[frosty herald]

Its neat

[mint brook]

well, to that i wanted to ask, is disdain good?

[sullen forge]

Honestly of all the places too hack 4chan

im not surprised its Soyjak Party

[sterile basalt]

not good enough

[wary finch]

Its just fucking ironic honestly
All things considered

[mint brook]

cause i was thinking of redoing it in case it is not, since i wanted to give the zealots tree 3 distinct identities you can play around with

[sterile basalt]

and 4 point travel with only 1 good pick within

is still not good

[heady rapids]

modding server is seething and saying saber didnt listen and the game is broken as shit

also they removed power axe from the files

[sterile basalt]

4 point travel is fundamentally a conscious decision ur forcing onto players

to discourage going across branches

[mint brook]

i was planning on making disdain giving you 4% crit chance on your next hit, per enemy hit, up to 5

[sterile basalt]

still not good enough

[regal coyote]

ooooo ye

[mint brook]

and the vicious offering i wanted to give then the ability to regen 30% toughness over 2 seconds on crit

which both are meant to be on that path

[sterile basalt]

neither are good enough

disdain is fundamentally unreliable

and vicious offering in that draft is dependent on crit talents elsewhere

so u end up causing potentially more point tax for synergy

[mint brook]

🤔

i wanted zealot to go more for crit as one of his 3 identities

since the left tree feels like it was kinda meant to be about crits?

well ... besides that one talent

that is somehow in the right

looking at you scourge

[acoustic dune]

Make zealot great again

[mint brook]

he is great but... he feels the same

[acoustic dune]

(We need more bleed stack)

[mint brook]

every damn game

like the stealth ability is quiet good

but not good enough considering what it can end up doing to your team if used wrong

firm believer that stealth zealot is great if used right, but compared to the dash it looks like griefing

but idk if thats dash being too strong or stealth being too weak

[sterile basalt]

then u need more nerfs than buffs

[acoustic dune]

Steath in the game is arleady bc how it work

[mint brook]

and if stealth is too weak, i was planning on removing the move speed to prevent the clowns rushing all the time

[sterile basalt]

heavy nerfs to zealot's crit kit

[mint brook]

can you explain that one?

[carmine falcon]

official server is also seething about wonky servers and prestige reset

i might wait this out until the eventual patch fix tm

[acoustic dune]

What game?

[mint brook]

saber in general kidna listen, but it is selective hearing

for example, they lock dlc behind dlc

[carmine falcon]

space marine 2

[acoustic dune]

Ah

Anyhow bought ready or not

[mint brook]

you need the ravenguard and the Dark angel dlc for example to have a full Dark angel dlc

[sterile basalt]

zealot's existing kit built around critical attacks is far stronger than it should reasonably be

[acoustic dune]

Can't wait to play the cloacker experience

[mint brook]

ah, yes, no worries, i am already sorta working on that area, scourge is not gonna exist when i am done, at least not in its current state

say, vet, how unreliable is backstabbing, and why is it?

cause i WANT backstabbing to be a reliable, third identity for zealot, but i feel like quiet a decent amount of people do not agree there, so i was wondering wether or not it is a good idea

[sterile basalt]

because it's only 120 degrees behind

there're 2 easy ways to access backstab

1. teammate pulls aggro
2. you stagger so much that u can move behind enemies u stagger to backstab

[mint brook]

so ... wait 🤔

loner can't be any worse, correct?

what if loner then gave stagger strength for weakspot hits and backstab damage for you and allies in coherency

or should we make loner just grant you and allies an inverse coherency effect?

like what you said gives me the feeling that stagger talents would be needed, which i think we got one

but thats like a single talent

yeah, found it, grievous wound

[sterile basalt]

kind of just "meh"

I will say though

if u do not understand how stagger works in this game fully

don't bother adding or modifying stagger talents

[mint brook]

stagger had like a calculation formula no?

[sterile basalt]

no offense but ur trying to do smth that someone very knowledgeable would consider difficult, with far less knowledgeable at ur disposal

[mint brook]

hey, no offence taken

i know it aint easy, but if i would stop just cause something is hard, i would be on the street

[sterile basalt]

stagger value - stagger reduction > stagger threshold
successful stagger

if < or =, no stagger

however all 3 of these values can be modified, and there're 3 stagger thresholds

[mint brook]

3?

thought there is more

[sterile basalt]

there is also stagger immunity window

[mint brook]

ah

lemme guess

mutants?

[sterile basalt]

no

every single enemy has stagger immunity window

[mint brook]

even pox walkers?

[sterile basalt]

yea

like I said

ur trying to do smth that knowledgeable people find incredibly difficult, with significantly less knowledge available

[mint brook]

hmm

i will look what i can do, if not, i might try to proccur that knowledge

also again, dont worry, i aknowledge i am not some math god
I am pretty fucking dumb when it comes to knowing the absolute ins and outs of the games math

i thank you as always for giving me a run through of things tho

[hard nexus]

tf are u talking about

increasing stagger for allies in coherency wouldn’t be hard

[winter furnace]

true i do it all the time

[sterile basalt]

it's numerically difficult to determine how much to add

[hard nexus]

30%, like hammer of faith

[copper hawk]

_<

[mint brook]

different weapons, differnt values, different talents, even more variables in values

[sterile basalt]

ok what does that 30% actually achieve for different weapons

u gotta test all dat

[hard nexus]

players can have ideas for changes, they don’t need to know the exact values to add and change to get those changes

that’s why

we aren’t developers

[mint brook]

i mean

you arent wrong

[hard nexus]

yeah i’m never wrong

[mint brook]

but it generally helps getting better concencus on things if values are correct

[hard nexus]

like fatshark listens to people who know what they’re talking about anyway

lmfao

[sterile basalt]

they do need to know which new stagger breakpoints this boost enables in deciding if it's gonna be good

[hard nexus]

hammer of faith is apparently an acceptable talent so there you go

30%

[sterile basalt]

and the other issue with +stagger is that
unless it's a ludicrous bonus (heavy hitter), it's varying levels of value based on the weapons u choose

[hard nexus]

or make it so if you reach one stagger BP, you automatically hit the second stagger BP for a heavier stagger (if it’s a weakspot)

[sterile basalt]

yea but the math doesn't work like that

the stagger threshold gap between medium and heavy stagger state is quite large

[mint brook]

can also maybe make it so the first weakspot hit is a guaranteed staggers against that specific special or elite enemy to prevent the whole calculation game

[heady rapids]

i think they should buff throwing knives

[mint brook]

i am working on that

but not a straight buff

knifes are a high skill option

[hard nexus]

all grenades should be throwing weapons, throwing knives should inflict one stack of bleed

other than that

no

[real sonnet]

Knife is fine it's the other 2 blitz that need help

[hard nexus]

throwing knives don’t need to be touched

they are entirely fine

[heady rapids]

they should make them self regenerating and homing

"we've noticed that not a lot of console players are using throwing knives and that its an unpopular blitz"

[plucky sparrow]

they already have a generous hitbox and regen from ammo tins / special kills

[sterile basalt]

ok guaranteed what level of stagger

[real sonnet]

Fatshark would actually pull this one on

It's funny

[hard nexus]

guaranteed light stagger, or if it meets first stagger BP, medium, or if it meets second, heavy

etc

[mint brook]

basically, i have an option where for each second you use your melee weapon, you get a rising damage bonus on the BoF and the value resets on taking the ranged weapon out, another where it is meant to be used against hordes, and another where it is great vs carpace

[sterile basalt]

first stagger breakpoint is light stagger

[hard nexus]

whenever zealot gets reworked, it’s gonna be made super OP but in a super boring way

and i’m going to be

very sad

[mint brook]

isnt there the light stagger, the medium one and then the ass sit?

[hard nexus]

yes that’s what i mean, if it would light stagger, aura makes it a medium stagger

[sterile basalt]

light, medium & heavy stagger state have corresponding stagger threshold values which the post-reduction stagger value needs to beat

[violet hornet]

Tknives are good but I think the real value in picking them is getting the preceding nodes and avoiding the shitty ones that start the tree for the other two blitzes

[real sonnet]

Semi relevant subject but I think the best Loner buff would be to make it so that everyone else on the team is always in coherency with you, so they all win the benefit of the slow toughness regen (you would still not be in coherency if you're not near them)

[hard nexus]

nah tknives themselves are perfectly balanced right now

they one shot all specials except mutants

and with buffs can kill ragers

that’s strong

[mint brook]

well, would medium be too strong? its mainly meant to give you enough time to get a quick backstab in

[hard nexus]

it’s a revolver with infinite ammo and no reloads

[real sonnet]

Throwing knife into backstab is a weird proposal

[copper hawk]

Yeah.

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/hitman-throw-briefcase-jetski-gif-15758520

tknife

[real sonnet]

If tree was the same but blitz were free to choose I would still choose tknives

[sterile basalt]

I think if u want to avoid all the stagger calculations there's 1 simple thing u can do

[mint brook]

wasnt talking about throwing knife anymore

[sterile basalt]

just make successful stagger's duration longer

yea that's a real modifier

do like +15% stagger duration to successful stagger actions

[hard nexus]

tknife needs no changes

replace immolation grenade with a throwing axe that you equip then throw that incinerates enemies in a large area that you hit

replace stunstorm with a javelin that you equip then throw that has good ADMs, and releases a couple chorus pulses after impact

axes and javelin can only be replenished by grenade boxes

makes it all fitting for zealot

and just cool

[real sonnet]

I feel these could just be tknife modifiers

[hard nexus]

make javelin deal like 2/3rds of a crusher’s health in damage

[real sonnet]

Instead of just replacing current ones lol

[hard nexus]

i think normal grenades are boring, throwing weapons are more fitting for zealot

[mint brook]

fair enough

[real sonnet]

They have their use tho

[mint brook]

seems actually like a solid middle/right side option then

[real sonnet]

It would be silly to just discard them

[sterile basalt]

but that makes this aura slightly more difficult to place

I'd honestly put it in left instead of right

[hard nexus]

which is why i’m proposing replacing them with throwing weapons, they’ll all do essentially the same job, but thematically different

[mint brook]

what if we didnt make it an aura and made loner just good

[real sonnet]

That's a bad thing!!!

If all blitzes do the same thing what's the point

[mint brook]

like i feel like best thing for loner would be to change it, so that the general idea stay, but isnt a troll pick

as said, inverse coherency would be neat

[hard nexus]

i meant they do the same as their original grenade counterparts

[real sonnet]

I did suggest a buff

[hard nexus]

not identical in purpose

guh

[violet hornet]

I'm just saying it's impossible to look at the numbers between how many pick each blitz and know for sure if they're picking the blitz for the blitz or for the other nodes required to reach it. I do agree tknives are the most useful of the three

[violet hornet]

Throw a relic

[real sonnet]

We'll see when they eventually make the blitz a free choice

[sterile basalt]

1 idea I had for zealot's chorus was

plant a flag down where u activate it

and allow u to move & attack while the flag continuously buffs everyone in its radius

[plush estuary]

Space marine reference

[sterile basalt]

ya

[plush estuary]

but that seems interesting

but how would that be a nerf?

[sterile basalt]

have that as like, a subnode

[plush estuary]

was being able to move with it too good?

[sterile basalt]

not a nerf

[plush estuary]

I see

[violet hornet]

Let us plant the flag on the ogryn

[sterile basalt]

make the "+%dmg" subnode do that

[violet hornet]

Weird idea but what if the relic was an object that could be dropped or handed off to a teammate

[sterile basalt]

btw I'm 2 blessings away from finishing all blessing sections

[plush estuary]

oh god

congrats

[sterile basalt]

just 2 versions of surgical

then blessings are done

[copper hawk]

Lfg

[sterile basalt]

ok blessings done

[copper hawk]

Yeah.

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-excited-gif-26474387

[solid solar]

Does anyone else take forever to load into a Mortis Trials match?

[acoustic dune]

i think the ship psycher has hacked into ur puter

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dance-gif-20625579

[solid solar]

Sefoni? Never, she seems like the trustworthy sort of psyker lol

[acoustic dune]

and cute too

https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017

[solid solar]

That one's too much of a stretch

[acoustic dune]

bald head are hot lad

what are you babblinb

[solid solar]

Hard disagree.

[plush estuary]

@clever swan @hidden grove

shoots 2 bursters on me

lol

then dies to a bruiser

[acoustic dune]

more for me i guess

[stone fern]

until death moment

[copper hawk]

Drooling moron

Id kill him ir flippin l

[clever swan]

yeah.....

poor guy was in a lobby with goated gamers

[plush estuary]

I was just messing around

3rd person no hud

talking in vc

[real sonnet]

Noooo I love using that node and then blasting a pogryn/shitspawn's head with my bolter

[copper hawk]

Goes down to one shooter's melee

[sterile basalt]

read what I typed

[copper hawk]

Growls like a sigma

[real sonnet]

Well I thought the implication was to replace the dmg buff for the flag wa

[copper hawk]

Sometimez i wish i could reach thru the screen and put paws on some of u mferz ,,

[real sonnet]

Not to keep the dmg and make it the flag at the same time

[sterile basalt]

yea maybe read next time

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/catgirl-gif-21822175

[sterile basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-steam-steamhappy-gif-11912067498964962572

[summer pilot]

What blessings am I roughly wanting on crusher. Does it even want anymore impact or just more damage

[copper hawk]

Slaught skullcrusher

[sterile basalt]

slaughterer/hammerblow
skullcrusher

[summer pilot]

Tyvm

[real sonnet]

So it is real

[plush estuary]

peak is back on

[real sonnet]

They DID add the previous havoc modifiers

... Please no goop

[copper hawk]

Moebian 21rd

[real sonnet]

Please please please no fucking goo

[copper hawk]

Please gloop

Pls more gloop

[real sonnet]

If they did I'll probably hate havoc forever

Such a shitass modifier

[summer pilot]

Infected troopers?

[jagged cradle]

So we can hug?

[jagged cradle]

I should play signalis

[jagged cradle]

Have you played the sm update yet

[copper hawk]

No

It looks like it broke a lot of stuff

And wiped everyone's shared chapter colors

[jagged cradle]

I loaded in this morning I had no problems

[jagged cradle]

Are you still up to play today then?

[opaque turtle]

so are the adjustments to the power greatsword blessings coming in the next hotfix?

[opal star]

what is signalis about bro 😭

[opaque turtle]

or are they already out?

[opal star]

and then he gets the VATS + m1m1m1m1 treatment

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout2-enclave-gif-16344701

[copper hawk]

Yah

[jagged cradle]

Alright alright ok

[mighty root]

Where did you find that pic of me

[misty nova]

Already out since NaV

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/katamari-gif-25794846

wire im going to punch a gas spore into you

[modern lintel]

evil gang of bulwarks mauls me to death

[mighty root]

Path sensei…

He’s so handsome

[visual stream]

Ermm.. no dude
maulers do the mauling

[hushed knoll]

[nova dust]

they.. bulwark’d him?.. bulled?

warked?

[modern lintel]

i will be mauling you to death in approximately 6 hours

[mighty root]

Talk to me when you study the blade Stan

[visual stream]

Bulwarks do the buling

[hushed knoll]

Have you?

[hushed knoll]

Hello leggy bird

[visual stream]

Hello Stan

[mighty root]

Yes

[hushed knoll]

Where is the blade

[mighty root]

Ignore the damage taken I had 4 bursters pushed into me

[hushed knoll]

Sure

A likely story

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027335984964190312/1361396979808080064/PxSAhVT.gif

[hushed knoll]

[modern lintel]

noob

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/musha-musha-slatt-naom-cat-gif-18627337

[hushed knoll]

There is no blade

You are lying

[mighty root]

Made me solo a bon with a power sword

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-meme-steam-tg-bratishkin-gif-274347585508037432

How to make me suffer

Give me a power sword

[mighty root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1288287202249408616/1328580520300249088/speed-2.gif

[visual stream]

Reported for rule 9

Get deported 💔

[hushed knoll]

NO NO NO NO

[violet hornet]

Everyone focusing on artificial intelligence, where's my artificial stupidity?

[regal coyote]

just make the average american into an ai

ez

[long oasis]

I am the artificial stupidity

[fallen sail]

ya'll if they added a melta gun would you want it like the one in SM2 or the one from DOW?

Personally I prefer the DOW depiction as its a straight beam that eviscerates everything in that range with extremely high pierce but not necessarily the best for hordes (but extremely good against elites and bosses)

(also put in veteran as these are the 2 classes i see usin this)

[violet hornet]

What units in dawn of war have meltas?

[summer pilot]

Fire dragons if you count eldar

[winter furnace]

me when i play psyker for 1 picosecond

[violet hornet]

I thought those were fusion blasters or something

[stone fern]

magik was so fun to play in marvels midnight suns

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guinea-pig-eating-guinea-tones-pig-rory-gif-5892520465357196774

[hard nexus]

why are u so moldy

moldmaxxing

[copper hawk]

Yeah.

[visual stream]

Average horror game fanbase content

https://tenor.com/view/anya-mouthwashing-jig-dance-dancing-silly-maracas-gif-6317954140927560995

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/signalis-star-live-reaction-love-blush-gif-5095082114815575503

[visual stream]

get stun batond get stun batond get stun batond

[copper hawk]

STARs r so me fr

No i am NOT a eule

I REFUSE !!

[solar gorge]

what you hear when you drive too close to the psych yard type shit

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cat-girl-talk-fast-online-chat-gif-16273991575876544877

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/rise-of-the-ronin-matthew-perry-ronin-rising-rising-my-ronin-gif-8667110887955872222

[plush estuary]

The "darktide" server

[copper hawk]

I HAVE CAST OFF THE MOLD

I LIVE

[copper hawk]

HOLY SHIT

cyber playin space marine 2..

@carmine falcon is the new map fun ..,

[stone fern]

he died btw

[clever swan]

SPOILERS???

[stone fern]

yes he died

[clever swan]

nice, thanks for spoiling it

[stone fern]

np

like directly after the point where you stopped watching/reading he dies

[clever swan]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

[stone fern]

he gets turned into a shopping cart by the archpriest of not returning your shopping cart

(big sin)

[carmine falcon]

ddint get it in quickpaly yet

trying to get my tac to level 25

again

cause of the stoooopid perk stuff

[frosty herald]

very

dont worry cica well play it together

[sterile stone]

Just started watchin the show

Es pretty good mane

[plush estuary]

@karmic yoke If you check the pins I have made a guide

I noticed in your build you went for the flame nades

and ignored the top right of the tree

this right here is zealots survivality

[karmic yoke]

I see, I guess the blades are a must pick then?

thanks for the info btw

[plush estuary]

sadly

yes

[plush estuary]

anytime

and at the bottom of the guide

has example builds

with weapon combos

[summer pilot]

Is the double toughness on melee kill not worthwhile?

[plush estuary]

usually worth it for slower weapons

or non crit ones

Thammer, relic blade sometimes, Hsword

[summer pilot]

And yeah, the blades feel really nice for doming trappers in a pinch. Even if my reaction speed is often too slow

Was having a great time with taxe critspam with the sneakpriest synergies

[misty nova]

Blood Redemption is decent

Specially funny on 22% tg on heavy kills build

[summer pilot]

Does the doubling work with your other toughness gains

Or just the base amount you get

[misty nova]

Base 5%
Another 5% from Blood Redemption
10% on heavy kills from Vicious Offering

2% from Stalwart

[misty nova]

Just the base

[sterile basalt]

Vicious offering too far to get

[misty nova]

Yeah that's why I regard it as meme build

[grizzled aspen]

Good magnitude, too expensive.

[misty nova]

Hsword
Blazing Piety

[tame sluice]

stun grenades are alright, but it's expensive to get them on a talent tree that has very little flexibility

you always have to lose something important to take either of the other grenades

and even ontop of that the blades are zealots best blitz

[mild sparrow]

Yeah... Imagine having used that build

Multiple times

[copper hawk]

TIME TO GRIND SM2 !!!!

[carmine falcon]

new mission is peak

[median steeple]

matchmaking is cooked for me couldn't find anyones for the new mission

[carmine falcon]

fantastic boss fight at the end

[copper hawk]

i prestiged all my chars

[carmine falcon]

and the level itself is very fun

[copper hawk]

it broke my heart ,,

i hope i picked the right Things

[carmine falcon]

i can only connect to 1 guy

[copper hawk]

for tactical i picked the ammo one

[carmine falcon]

u have to go to quick menu every few games

saber moment

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/its-bleak-bleak-its-peak-peak-homelander-gif-466413946589568151

[frosty herald]

CICA

SM2

[carmine falcon]

need a third

[heady rapids]

duoed the new map on absolute on lv 5

hard but doable

matchmaking is dead

[carmine falcon]

servers straight up just dont work

lol

ive been soloing

or getting 1 dude mid mission

[copper hawk]

@carmine falcon

u want 2 join @frosty herald and i

[carmine falcon]

yessir

[placid fiber]

No, stop!

You have so much to live for!

[copper hawk]

uh

[carmine falcon]

yam has me on steam

send invite

[copper hawk]

my friend code

oh nvm @frosty herald

invite this noob

[placid fiber]

I wonder if anyone has 911 in their friend code >.>

[frosty herald]

I dont like lethal

[copper hawk]

we'll bump it down one

[plush estuary]

minimal sounds good

[copper hawk]

the only threats are Devourers and Zoans

that's about it

Devourers i still contend are totally unbalanced

worst enemy in the game

[carmine falcon]

can u play something else

[frosty herald]

Well do absolute

Its easier than lethal methinks

[carmine falcon]

will it be ok with none of us having full perks

[hearty nebula]

vlirp

[copper hawk]

yerp

wpns r really the only thing that stops you from killing shit at higher difficulties

we'll try it once ,, it'll be fine ,,

[placid fiber]

"It'll be fine" they said...
Spoiler alert: it wasn't fine

[copper hawk]

WE'LL BE FINEZ !!

emperor spoke 2 me in a dream and said meowmeowmeow

which MEANZ we'll be fine

[placid fiber]

[visual stream]

[placid fiber]

Someone's filling the baby food with hot lead?!

[opal star]

fuck you mean elevated levels

[hearty nebula]

my favorite sweetener :D

[median steeple]

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/stationery-pencil-lead-writing-gif-13526385

[violet hornet]

God emperor of meownkind

[jagged cradle]

Playing without me?

Wow

Betrayed hurt and something else I can’t think of

[misty nova]

Shot through the heart 🗣️

[placid fiber]

and cica's to blame?

[plush estuary]

you give

[placid fiber]

these references might be too outdated for the young uns to get

[summer pilot]

What kinda trinkets are ideal for zealot? With martyr being the outlier I suppose

My only thing really left to farm now I've got my weapons mostly sorted

[placid fiber]

toughness

1 stamina or health

[plush estuary]

I explain in the guide, but simply toughness is always best

[hard nexus]

2x toughness 1x health/stamina

is usually what people run

i run 3x toughness

[plush estuary]

and with stam to help with push attacks or more hp

[misty nova]

Wounds

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[misty nova]

(martyrdom propaganda)

[placid fiber]

wtf

[summer pilot]

So what makes you choose stamina over health. I've got 2 toughness 1 health for now to make sure I'm not getting corrupted for my only spare wound

[clever swan]

i see it all

[plush estuary]

weapons like knife and tactical axe use push attack for their weapon combo

[summer pilot]

Really? Never noticed when I was using them. Then again I doubt I was playing remotely optimally

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/hiii-cat-wave-cat-wave-hi-gif-174708314057938083

[placid fiber]

@hard nexus did you see? (apparently copying the message link isn't working for me rn)

[plush estuary]

discord copy is wack rn

[sterile basalt]

2 toughness
Third can be any but wound

[plush estuary]

I cant link text channels

[vocal gazelle]

Mobility or collateral for dump stat on bolter?

[hard nexus]

mrreeeowwww

[placid fiber]

collateral

[plush estuary]

mob

[sterile basalt]

Collat dump on zealot
Mobility dump on veteran

[vocal gazelle]

thanks

[summer pilot]

I dislike collateral as it makes it hard to line up shots

[hard nexus]

collateral

mobility or collat

[vocal gazelle]

I'm getting mixed messages

[hard nexus]

both are fine

[placid fiber]

^

[summer pilot]

What about with braced autogun? I've got one dumped on collateral and one dumped on mobility and couldn't decide

[plush estuary]

oops, meant collat

yes

[placid fiber]

collateral makes it 1 less shot to open a bulwark

[sterile basalt]

I wrote it very clearly

[placid fiber]

so 6 shots I think

with dumped collateral

[hard nexus]

collateral affects stagger, but doesnt effect any stagger BPs on bolt
mobility affects sprint speed

so collateral is the better dump

[placid fiber]

instead of 5 with dumped mobility

[hard nexus]

but overall its whatever

[fallen sail]

DOW2 allows you to upgrade certain squads with it

iirc its stormtrooepers and lord general

[sterile basalt]

Wait are u talking about boltgun or bolt pistol @vocal gazelle

[vocal gazelle]

boltgun

[hard nexus]

then yah

[vocal gazelle]

I've got a maxed out bolt pistol already

[sterile basalt]

Ok then this

[summer pilot]

Oh yeah completely forgot about the guard goonsquad

I think he is the only one who can get meltas

Mightve been campaign wargear for dow1 too

[copper hawk]

U said ud be bsy till 2night

[carmine falcon]

ez clapperino

[copper hawk]

Told u it wouldn't be zo bad ,,

[carmine falcon]

[placid fiber]

I have no clue what I am looking at on the right...

[carmine falcon]

bombardino crcodilo

[summer pilot]

What the heck is that post game. That is darktide right?

[tame sluice]

no

that's space marine 2

[carmine falcon]

speesh marine

[tame sluice]

unmodded even

[carmine falcon]

yes

[jagged cradle]

Yeah I jst oaking ill be on in an hour or two

[copper hawk]

Kk

[sterile stone]

Mans posted

I respect the grind

[carmine falcon]

we are gonna fucking die

[frosty herald]

Mashallah we will do this absolute

[carmine falcon]

🙏

[frosty herald]

Tzeentch wills it

[sterile stone]

Crash out in the name of the emperor

[jagged cradle]

Stop throwing

[carmine falcon]

i have hoemfield advantage here

[jagged cradle]

Maybe I shouldn’t have prestiged my sniper I was going to play him today

[elfin thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-cat-cats-goodbye-sushi-gif-2001317464723667226

[bitter anvil]

@sullen forge https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/317796493048414209/1361814969884348467/XB5GHQxXYr3IL3NMKuNryS_tllGUqI1RFJCThYqasugZ6U26OZaA8V_eioZ__8SncxMnqgjHIh3sz84s640-rw-nd-v1.png?ex=68002086&is=67fecf06&hm=28c579f31cd9cd3d96ad7a2d2f41cd2b9375482ed960155884929c8adf8639f0&

[visual stream]

Like the old days..

[sterile stone]

What difficulty you on

[violet hornet]

Ahh I thought you were referring to the original dawn of war, DoW2 may well have meltas I don't recall myself

[fallen sail]

it does fs i just dont rememeber the units

[vocal gazelle]

Should I dump range or mobility on double barrel on zealot

[plush estuary]

mob

range changes damage

zealot guide in pins has weapon dump stats

[grizzled aspen]

Ainz's next 500 messages will be some form of "check the pins."

[plush estuary]

I do what path does

[compact sail]

what is the current zealot meta? i've never really bothered with the meta in my absolutely insanely massive playtime of 70 whole hours.

[plush estuary]

say to check the guide

and then answer them

[hard nexus]

ds4 flamer relic

[plush estuary]

meta is whatever you want to play, honestly meta does not matter maybe bedies high havoc

[hard nexus]

turns havoc into boring snore fest

[grizzled aspen]

The Build.

[compact sail]

what does ds4 mean?

[plush estuary]

Dueling Sword Mk4

[compact sail]

i want to get into higher havocs

[plush estuary]

Understood

[hard nexus]

but this is a good guide as to zealot builds, purple being main path and yellow build dependant

[plush estuary]

^ then the guide has the "optimized build"

[grizzled aspen]

ALL HAIL THE BUILD

[compact sail]

for some reason i though that channel and shroudfield were meta

[plush estuary]

book is an interesting case

[copper hawk]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

ARE YOU KIDDING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[plush estuary]

the gold toughness and stun it gives makes what havoc throws at you more manageable, but fury helps you perform better

book is very strong but not needed

[compact sail]

i see.

[hard nexus]

they are

[plush estuary]

and taking book usually makes your build do less damage

[hard nexus]

but they are boring

stealth less so

[compact sail]

my understanding of the meta comes from mister E

[hard nexus]

chorus just turns the game off

[hard nexus]

don’t listen to him

he sucks

[compact sail]

k

[plush estuary]

Always take information from any source with a grain of salt

anyone can make content

[hard nexus]

unless it’s from me

[compact sail]

what blessing do you run on the flamer?

[plush estuary]

some people do have a history of being wrong

[compact sail]

hahah

[hard nexus]

pins

[compact sail]

good point.

[plush estuary]

internet so slow, it doesnt load the weapon pics

[compact sail]

damn that sucks.

[grizzled aspen]

👋

Hi, that's me.

[hard nexus]

i’d add that inspiring barrage makes it safer most specifically against ragers, as the flamer will stagger most chaff quickly enough

[plush estuary]

I have a reason

[hard nexus]

and it doesn’t really help much against most other elites

well

i suppose gunners

[compact sail]

thanks for the help guys!

[plush estuary]

all weapon setups + talent tree examples are in the guide

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/htp-hunter-the-parenting-kevin-great-and-mighty-kevin-the-great-and-mighty-kevin-gif-12320583250422019912

[frosty herald]

I told yall we could do it

[carmine falcon]

we just crushed absolute

[plush estuary]

your welcome

[carmine falcon]

saber almost cost us the game

me and cica got dc'ed

yamato held on

[frosty herald]

I could handle it

[compact sail]

@plush estuary @hard nexus one more thing, curios?

[plush estuary]

2 tough 1stam

[compact sail]

got it

[sterile stone]

Look at you out here doing it big.

Hope you didn't get performance anxiety.

[frosty herald]

goobers

[carmine falcon]

i did

but i blasted it

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/guinea-pig-eating-guinea-tones-pig-rory-gif-5892520465357196774

[sterile stone]

My mans out here looking crispy

Almost making me want to drop the chips and buy the game.

[carmine falcon]

the drip is immaculate

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-deadass-b-gif-25929904

[frosty herald]

Look at my drip

Im looking like a knight

[sterile stone]

I ain't seen nada

[sterile stone]

Oh wait

[copper hawk]

@carmine falcon

[sterile stone]

You're in his game.

[frosty herald]

Yeah

Im the red robed one

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-fanta-orange-orange-venom-marvel-rivals-gif-14254808145322227813

[sterile stone]

Chaplain?

[frosty herald]

Bulwark

[sterile stone]

Close enough

[carmine falcon]

we got dc'ed again

[copper hawk]

yah

[frosty herald]

No

[copper hawk]

guh

[frosty herald]

I quit the mission

We are NOT doing that shit

[carmine falcon]

lol

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[carmine falcon]

what deleted u

[copper hawk]

just do nid maps

[frosty herald]

A flamer marine

[carmine falcon]

awful enemy

[frosty herald]

Cause they do dumb fucking damage ifyou exist near them

[carmine falcon]

yep

i prolly shoulda killed them instead of trying to res

[copper hawk]

this game is actually a lot easier with lag

hitboxes are very forgiving

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277023294108864619/1361821894185324674/S6OIyhwGNMUTS4Sw.mp4?ex=680026f9&is=67fed579&hm=7160b560e85e6c59ea4bad6cd67992d6a229ab4c963d82745bcac98a1f862698&

how is the melta pistol @copper hawk

[sterile stone]

Have you engaged with the pvp in any capacity

[frosty herald]

No.

[sterile stone]

Not surprised.

[median steeple]

it's a mixed bag

[clever swan]

sm2 pvp was the worst thing ive ever played the 2 rounds i played

[sterile stone]

Baldur's Gate 3 has steam cards now?

That shit was random

@frosty herald https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172710/Dune_Awakening/

Steam

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…

Price

$49.99

Release Date

Jun 10, 2025

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Also

Just check out the character creator demo

We could be on the verge of greatness

[stone fern]

were not

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[stone fern]

name one good video game adaptation for a movie

[median steeple]

honestly surprised this game is only 50 and not in the 90s

[clever swan]

tron

[sterile stone]

[median steeple]

reasonable pricing in this day and age? sweet

[clever swan]

(i never saw tron, no idea if it's good)

[stone fern]

WOWOW only 89???

[sterile stone]

I'm sure it's cheaper in other regions.

[stone fern]

theres only one answer that ill accept and i forgot it

[sterile stone]

Due to things like price fluxuations and shit.

[clever swan]

warcraft wasnt a bad movie

[stone fern]

i cant wait to preorder a digital product

[stone fern]

otherway round im talking video games for already existing ips

[clever swan]

oh i see

[stone fern]

there was legit one that was good but i forgor

[sterile stone]

If you're broke just say it

I will only midly make fun of you

[stone fern]

i am

[sterile stone]

Oh word.

[stone fern]

no

[sterile stone]

Go get a shwarma plate rn then

[clever swan]

spiderman 2

goldeneye

that king kong game

[sterile stone]

Goldeneye was fire

Rogue agent was fire too

Slept on game

[clever swan]

nightfire was pretty goated from what i remember as a babby

[sterile stone]

Same with Tomorrow never dies

[clever swan]

not sure if nightfire is based off a movie though idk

[sterile stone]

That castle mission was clean

My only gripe was that tokyo map

[clever swan]

i should play it again

[sterile stone]

Got damn ninjas doing cartwheels and shit while shooting you

[clever swan]

enter the matrix from 2003

[jagged crag]

Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay

[clever swan]

harry potter and the chamber of secrets

[sterile stone]

What's wild is the Matrix had a mmo in the early 2000s

[clever swan]

ive never really looked into that one much. was more of a swg guy back then

[jagged crag]

And it's functionality hinged heavily on the devs interacting with the world and players, something you rarely see now.

[clever swan]

that definitely could be cool

[opaque island]

kinda like helldivers?

[stone fern]

its 12:57 am and i am not drunk

[jagged crag]

Matrix was much more direct.

[stone fern]

good enough

ill take it

[jagged crag]

Devs would show up as major canon characters and assign missions and try to adjust the ebb and flow of the games progress over time.

[stone fern]

3x missions aborted in a row

ok fatshark

[clever swan]

owned

[sterile stone]

[frosty herald]

this means that clad is european

[stone fern]

"european"

[plush estuary]

the best teammates

[mighty root]

Is cuz ur a Marty player

[mighty root]

I was gonna ask why does your game look like that is like it has a filter on it?

Everything look matte

[winter oxide]

how good is the rashad axe?

[obsidian prairie]

Very

[winter oxide]

is it better than the tactical axe

[clever swan]

better for single target