ive been running combat knife stealth zealot for a long time and ive been trying other weapons and just cant get out of wanting to go fast lmao
#zealot-class
shadow ore
i tried relic blade but im just not a fan of it
does anyone have a Heavy eviscerator build that they can share?
lone matrix
i tried relic blade but im just not a fan of it
use the mk 15 then
mild sparrow
does anyone have a Heavy eviscerator build that they can share?
It's just The Build lmao
shadow ore
sweet ty
lone matrix
mk 15 hevicerator has simple moveset
neon relic
why am i dreading getting these penances done
noble scroll
You used to have to charge up the chainblade special, then fotf on the last hit of the rev attack for max dmg
Are chain weapons still like that with shroud and fotf?
placid fiber
You used to have to charge up the chainblade special, then fotf on the last hit ...
you chastise after the initial hit for chastise to effect the whole rev
now anyway
shroudfield has never worked with chain weapons
placid fiber
It's just The Build lmao
eviscerator benefits from twbs due to the rev, otherwise you can get knocked out of it
lone matrix
shroudfield has never worked with chain weapons
smites with th instead
mild sparrow
eviscerator benefits from twbs due to the rev, otherwise you can get knocked out...
Out of the rev?!
shadow ore
well i gave the eviscerator a shot and i think im just too addicted to shroudfield shanking to do anything else on zealot
placid fiber
Yep, getting hit with a melee interrupts the rev without twbs
lone matrix
well i gave the eviscerator a shot and i think im just too addicted to shroudfie...
shroudfield rgs?
mild sparrow
Yep, getting hit with a melee interrupts the rev without twbs
Is it from anything? I don't remember it happening much outside bosses?
placid fiber
Is it from anything? I don't remember it happening much outside bosses?
any melee hit from an enemy
shadow ore
is it just the combat knife thats used with shroudfield or are other weapons viable with it?
lone matrix
ds
placid fiber
is it just the combat knife thats used with shroudfield or are other weapons via...
there are weapons that can use shroudfield, it just isn't meta
thammer is one, for heavy chunking to bosses
knife + shroudfield is sort of a meme
lone matrix
thammer is better with the rush though with guaranteed crit and attack speed buff
placid fiber
In general chastise is better with any weapon, you can just do things with shroudfield
lone matrix
yeah... that a thing but by hordes it is way worse
placid fiber
yeah... that a thing but by hordes it is way worse
ds and knife will both be worse vs hordes as well with shroudfield
lone matrix
yeah but it feels like less impact, thammer can feel sluggish
placid fiber
that's why marty is taken with shroudfield afaik, cause the near permanent attack speed helps
lone matrix
yeah
shadow ore
Ive been doing well with the combat knife tbh. I just find it to be way more fun than any other weapon ive tried.
lone matrix
go try ds4
placid fiber
If you've been doing knife all slow weapons will feel bad
acoustic dune
yeah but it feels like less impact, thammer can feel sluggish
the relic sword is a better thammer
prove me wrong
lone matrix
thammer has better burst rgs is better constant
placid fiber
you're comparing 2 different ends of the spectrum with the knife and the relic blade
shadow ore
I just like being able to zip around super fast, and charge slide around. If the weapon cant offer me that im not sure ill use it lmao.
placid fiber
prove me wrong
Do that with your relic blade and then we'll talk
acoustic dune
Do that with your relic blade and then we'll talk
i cant play the clip
placid fiber
I just like being able to zip around super fast, and charge slide around. If the...
Well that eliminates: crusher, thammer, eviscerator, relic blade, caxe, chaxe, heavy sword, shock maul, chainsword
lone matrix
oneshot dh and pogryn
shadow ore
Well that eliminates: crusher, thammer, eviscerator, relic blade, caxe, chaxe, h...
Gotta go fast 
shadow ore
Damn someone isnt happy that i enjoy the game my own way. 
lone matrix
Besides you can swap to your ranged to zip around so skissue
throws ripper mashine pistol at him
halcyon ibex
isn't that mod that tells u where specials are borderline cheating
placid fiber
How you enjoy the game affects me: 0
with how specials don't make sounds a lot of the time? Not really
shadow ore
How you enjoy the game affects me: 0
placid fiber
Gotta go fast <a:yesyes:860793778519801887>
but yeah that only leaves the taxe, knife, and dueling sword
real sonnet
isn't that mod that tells u where specials are borderline cheating
I mean all mods that give you info that you wouldn't be able to know is cheating
Who gaf
placid fiber
I only started using it when I got stuck with a shitty headset that doesn't give me much audio feedback
acoustic dune
if you really like speed
shadow ore
Doesnt matter how good your headset is when you have three trappers run up behind you making less sound than sam fisher.
acoustic dune
play psycher
lone matrix
gunker
placid fiber
Doesnt matter how good your headset is when you have three trappers run up behin...
True, but, it was much less of an issue with my last headset since I could hear a lot more of the quieter sounds
shadow ore
Id probably consistently explode playing psycher
lone matrix
gunker gun meele weapon with flow peril
placid fiber
Besides visual clutter can make other things difficult to see if you don't know how to set the mods up
acoustic dune
greatsword psycher all you need
regal coyote
Id probably consistently explode playing psycher
it’s not that bad actually
lone matrix
greatsword psycher all you need
deimos
regal coyote
i’ve only periled twice
placid fiber
when there are 50 elites in a crowd all you can see with healthbars is a mass of healthbars sometimes
shadow ore
I was playing with a dude earlier that was exploding almost every fight.
placid fiber
I was playing with a dude earlier that was exploding almost every fight.
That's called the average rando
lone matrix
when there are 50 elites in a crowd all you can see with healthbars is a mass of...
gets smashed by a healthbar
placid fiber
*gets smashed by a healthbar*
I've not seen maulers before because of the healthbar mod lol
It's scary when an overhead is coming your way and you barely have enough time to react
lone matrix
prepare for stacked crushers
placid fiber
Stacked crushers isn't as bad cause the healthbar is way above everything else
that's just terrifying cuz 5 overheads one after another
twin wagon
Healthbars are cheating
placid fiber
just like knowing how much damage you took in a run
and having trappers play audio loudly all the time
and knowing your dodge count
twin wagon
Cackling trapper my beloved
lone matrix
Cackling trapper my beloved
still get netted
placid fiber
Actually I'm not sure spidey sense would help me in the mortis trials
due to trappers from every direction
acoustic dune
Cackling trapper my beloved
me stuck in a horde while a net is reaching through the enemy
placid fiber
net that goes through bulwark shields
twin wagon
Cackling trappers can sometimes backfire
acoustic dune
placid fiber
since their sound masks everything, it could mask a dog
I've had spidey sense backfire cause I was too focused on the trapper to notice the dog
lone matrix
since their sound masks everything, it could mask a dog
gets grabbed by mutant and thrown into fire
acoustic dune
*gets grabbed by mutant and thrown into fire*
skill issue
shadow ore
*gets grabbed by mutant and thrown into fire*
my personal favorite is being tossed at a daemonhost at Mach Fuck
placid fiber
All mods are technically cheating to some degree, when they give you visual feedback you normally wouldn't have... but some of these mods SHOULD be part of the game as it is
like chat block
lone matrix
numerical ui, charts
acoustic dune
All mods are technically cheating to some degree, when they give you visual feed...
stim colours
placid fiber
Honestly I don't care if they are "cheating" as long as fatshark allows them to keep going
neon relic
coherency keeper
placid fiber
I'm playing to have fun
placid fiber
and 5 trappers not making noise is not fun
neon relic
puts a marker indicating when you're out of coherency
you get a small ring on your screen
placid fiber
The mod that tells you how close you are to a hazard is something I should probably get
that shows the aoe of the explosion
acoustic dune
The mod that tells you how close you are to a hazard is something I should proba...
i mean
doesnt seem that needed
since oyu can jump over the fire
placid fiber
it's mostly just a quality of life thing
acoustic dune
ah
placid fiber
since oyu can jump over the fire
it shows burster radius and stuff
acoustic dune
it shows burster radius and stuff
either way i am doging 2 time
placid fiber
I always do that as well
acoustic dune
hear burster
prepare too push
look around like i have voice in me head
get bursted into the abyss anyway
rustic wren
I gotta tell you folks, I'm at about level 16 with my zealot, and I have been having the hardest time so far, I can't help but feel like the leveling process has been way more difficult than it was for my Vet and pre buff ogryn
faint vapor
Pray to the Emperor harder
acoustic dune
I gotta tell you folks, I'm at about level 16 with my zealot, and I have been ha...
do more kicklfip
placid fiber
There are tools you can get on the talent tree that will help
acoustic dune
duh
mild sparrow
I gotta tell you folks, I'm at about level 16 with my zealot, and I have been ha...
Honestly I struggled with my zealot the most initially
Once you get fotf with two charges and a weapon you like it's smooth sailing
placid fiber
I gotta tell you folks, I'm at about level 16 with my zealot, and I have been ha...
Here's a rough set up with 16 talent points
that gives you stun immunity, cheat death, and the upgraded chastise
mild sparrow
Just getting into the good stuff
rustic wren
Here's a rough set up with 16 talent points
Yoink. Do you have any recommendations for proper weapon setups this early on? I was looking forward to relic blade but since I don't have access, I was thinking maybe crusher or assault chainsword
placid fiber
as well as second wind
halcyon ibex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7BO7-Pd73Q this guy is goated btw
placid fiber
Yoink. Do you have any recommendations for proper weapon setups this early on? I...
Use whatever, just try to cover both armor and hordes
acoustic dune
Yoink. Do you have any recommendations for proper weapon setups this early on? I...
the heavy sword as a easy combo
a jack of all trade
placid fiber
heavy sword covers elites and hordes, but, you need the bolter or revolver for armor
acoustic dune
yeah
placid fiber
It's tough early on
mild sparrow
Evis XV is great early on, can deal with anything
acoustic dune
oh btw phill
placid fiber
the mk15 eviscerator or mk10 relic blade are great early
mild sparrow
Easy to use too
rustic wren
Well that's doable, I've got plenty of mastery points into revolver from my vet so it's an easy conversion
acoustic dune
did i ever show you my evil build
placid fiber
I can't remember
Relic blade is slower on the dodges, but, can cover hordes, armor, and elites. Leaving your ranged being able to cover bosses and/or specials
acoustic dune
Relic blade is slower on the dodges, but, can cover hordes, armor, and elites. L...
relic sword is also a good pay with shroudfield
placid fiber
I can't remember what level it unlocks at tho
acoustic dune
2 shot boss max
placid fiber
relic sword is also a good pay with shroudfield
eh, it's better with chastise
rustic wren
I can't remember what level it unlocks at tho
18 unfortunately
placid fiber
and they don't have the points to spend to get a good build with shroudfield
level 16
acoustic dune
eh, it's better with chastise
i perfer its with a cursed build like matyr and shroudfield
i have chastise for my evil build
rustic wren
I thought about just cheesing the auto crit hammer tactic for the next few levels 
placid fiber
Yes but we're suggesting a good set up for a newer zealot
lone matrix
I gotta tell you folks, I'm at about level 16 with my zealot, and I have been ha...
psyker gonna be fun
rustic wren
psyker gonna be fun
I'm just omitting him from my character select screen
placid fiber
btw the 2 things from the build I gave you that you want to aim for are these
as you get more talent points
Both will give you a lot of utility early on
acoustic dune
if you want
placid fiber
iirc there's supposed to be a yellow line to the double charges
placid fiber
Here we go
regal coyote
what in the world is this
placid fiber
a christmas tree made out of the zealot talent tree
acoustic dune
what in the world is this
a classic zealot special
neon relic
what does that do?
twin wagon
heres a good one
why is there a ferret there
acoustic dune
why is there a ferret there
thats a stoopid question
twin wagon
Ok Alpharius.
twin wagon
There's still a ferret
placid fiber
Where's my ferret?!
clever swan
placid fiber
Yay!
faint vapor
Ferrets are the Imperium's equal for a purity seal
acoustic dune
Ferrets are the Imperium's equal for a purity seal
for zealot chat
faint vapor
The only chat that matters
acoustic dune
sadly
our ferret poster is gone
thankfully i have a dealer
all the ferrets are all mine
MINE
clever swan
plucky sparrow
who?
clever swan
our ferret poster aka eli or peetstism
clever swan
we must find a new gimmick theme
torpid tulip
BEST zealot solo carry havoc 30s - 40 build? i see matrydom is ok but honestly i dunno what goes with that. do ppl use swift certainty with matyrdom or thy wrath be swift? and or the three dr points? shield of contempt, good balance, enduring faith? its hard to fit all of these in a build
and or woould i need any cooldown skills?
i can post rats.
visual stream
our ferret poster is gone
Why were they banned 😭
hushed knoll
Why were they banned 😭
Hello leggy bird
visual stream
Hello Stanny
violet hornet
Why were they banned 😭
Posted too many ferrets
(not really it was an unfriendly disagreement with another user here)
visual stream
They kinda got passionate about disagreements yeah
Didn't think they would say anything ban worthy though
violet hornet
But who will stand up for Papa John's pizza now?
signal spoke
Didn't think they would say anything ban worthy though
and i thought that they always act chill
violet hornet
Didn't think they would say anything ban worthy though
I'm not sure there was a specific thing that was said to be ban worthy or if it was more of a general contentiousness
But yeah I generally got along fine with them like most people did
clever swan
But who will stand up for Papa John's pizza now?
i was watching family guy and they had a cutaway where they said that papa johns is the worst pizza ever. though they also had a gag where they said domino's is barely even pizza so who knows
if family guy wont stand up for them papa johns, no one will
visual stream
Papa John's is infinitely better than Domino's pizza
Domino's not only overpriced but also mid
They sell nice pasta though, most of their non-pizza stuff is better than their pizza
clever swan
domino's is cheap as hell if you get THE coupon tho, $9 for a large (1 topping)
misty ravine
Papa Johns fell off, at least in my area. Dominos is better here
clever swan
it literally did fall off. they used to cut their own vegetables and stuff in store but now they just get it pre-cut and pre-packaged
ever since john left it has been downhill, truly
acoustic dune
Why were they banned 😭
too much conflict
what broke the cammel back
whom ever plush was
misty ravine
ever since john left it has been downhill, truly
https://youtu.be/-T27F5N2km8?si=NsJ7U8PKDjMr-mqw
Also Papa Johns always makes me think of this and it makes me laugh
carmine falcon
for the hitting a sniper with a stun nade penance, do i have to make sure the nade physically hits the sniper or what
why is this penance even a thing
visual stream
Think only the explosion
placid fiber
It's just the explosion
visual stream
Doesn't have to be the physical nade as long as the sniper is 40m
visual stream
whom ever plush was
Plush was combative too if that's what you mean so makes sense
carmine falcon
i dont wanna do it in pubs so i dont get blocked by everyone lmao
ill have to drag someone to help me do it
placid fiber
why is this penance even a thing
It's to teach you that you can stun a sniper to buy your team time to deal with it
visual stream
still dreading doing the loner stuff
I've decided that many penances I'm just not gonna do because then it would require that I use loner/Shroud/etc.
carmine falcon
It's to teach you that you can stun a sniper to buy your team time to deal with ...
yeah its fine
i just thought i need to physically hit him for some reason lmao
placid fiber
yeah its fine
i just thought i need to physically hit him for some reason lmao
Just the stun, heh
carmine falcon
I've decided that many penances I'm just not gonna do because then it would requ...
yeah i might end up doing the same
im already at like 3k points while barely doing penances from other classes
placid fiber
yeah its fine
i just thought i need to physically hit him for some reason lmao
The name of it is literally buying time. :3
carmine falcon
i could probably max out without touching loner stuff
acoustic dune
Plush was combative too if that's what you mean so makes sense
(i mean idk whom plush is)
placid fiber
This is one of the harder ones, but, I've gotten it multiple times(I've done the no taking damage) since I got it via a glitch
It said I was my ogryn, so therefor my vet didn't take damage
acoustic dune
plush is not part of the ZEALOT HOOD
carmine falcon
i dont think ive completed a single game without taking any dmg ever
violet hornet
Papa John's is infinitely better than Domino's pizza
I actually don't think I've heard someone ever recommend ordering from there in my area. A cousin of mine worked at one and he said it was awful and that no one should eat there lmao
placid fiber
i dont think ive completed a single game without taking any dmg ever
Really? :\
clever swan
plush had 38k total posts in the discord, that's 3.5x~ as many as me. dang
visual stream
I actually don't think I've heard someone ever recommend ordering from there in ...
Maybe the one I used to order from in my hometown spoiled me
placid fiber
I've done quite a few
stone fern
This is one of the harder ones, but, I've gotten it multiple times(I've done the...
nah bullseye is harder
it was hyper bugged
visual stream
Their garlic sauce is so good for the crust though
stone fern
i tried it like 5 times
violet hornet
Domino's is weirdly popular despite being terrible imo, I'm probably the only person that liked it less than before their recipe overhaul
carmine falcon
Really? :\
i get too overzealous 😏
stone fern
and got it randomly without anyone of the team being near the area
clever swan
the owner of the papa johns near me is trash and you should not order from there
carmine falcon
my closest was 45 dmg taken
at the end of a really tough rolling steel
when i wasnt paying attention
placid fiber
nah bullseye is harder
I meant for the steam achievement one
clever swan
bro would literally sell moldy sausage and just take the moldy sausage off the top :)
placid fiber
my closest was 45 dmg taken
I'm pretty sure I've taken 0 on all classes, before
It's harder on damnation, but, possible if you're scarred from vt2
violet hornet
Maybe the one I used to order from in my hometown spoiled me
This must be a factor because I have heard all kinds of opinions on different restaurants from different places. Little Caesars is surprisingly passable here but I can imagine how bad it would be in a place where they're not going through pizzas quickly enough to have them be fresh regularly
carmine falcon
i have been trying to be far more defensively sound at least
placid fiber
i have been trying to be far more defensively sound at least
It's about treating every single hit like it will kill you
violet hornet
Shrimply never get hit
placid fiber
no matter what
full hp toughnes death defy up? Dead
Ogryn? dead
Vet with 1hp? dead
Vet with golden toughness? Dead
placid fiber
When you treat all damage as lethal, it helps with taking less damage
carmine falcon
in the games where i dont get clapped im usually playing very paranoid lol
placid fiber
It's also just 0 health damage for that vet one
Which is actually even easier now that we have voice of command
clever swan
didnt take me much time to get on overwatch without trying, just a couple days it seems
placid fiber
I really annoyed my friend when I got it through a glitch
I since had gotten it twice when playing with him >:3
and multiple times after that
I still don't know why it said I was an ogryn for the damage I took
Vet/psyker is easier to get wombo comboed so avoiding all melee hits is a good thing to do anyway
rustic wren
How does the assault chainsword scale for higher difficulties my fellow enlightened ones?
placid fiber
It has insane horde clear
the m13g is the op one
It can kill elites, it just struggles with armor
What you do is: have wrath + shred on a mk 13g... see horde... charge horde... mulch horde with light spam...
mild sparrow
What's the horde clear combo? Aren't it's lights mostly strikdedowns?
placid fiber
on the mk13g it's light spam, on the mk4 it's heavy spam
placid fiber
What's the horde clear combo? Aren't it's lights mostly strikdedowns?
It just attacks so fast it mulches hordes, even more so with shred
mild sparrow
placid fiber
iirc it also uses wrath
rustic wren
<:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
^
rustic wren
I love the fantasy of a ministorum preacher with a chainsword, so I'm committing to the bit
violet hornet
BEST zealot solo carry havoc 30s - 40 build? i see matrydom is ok but honestly i...
Honestly not sure if there's a settled meta for new havoc yet or not, but typically martyrdom is not too popular and neither is swift certainty. Toughness Dr, twbs, and cool down skills (besides the one in the martyrdom tree) are good tho
rustic wren
chain sword is specialized more toward horde clear anyway
Does this put the eviscerator as a chainsword^2 or is it better with elites and stuff as well?
placid fiber
chain axe does the best vs carapace of all chain weapons
mild sparrow
I was using the other CS mark and it was doing nothing to ragers without the rev 
placid fiber
Does this put the eviscerator as a chainsword^2 or is it better with elites and ...
eviscerator is more specialized towards armor and boss damage
chain axe specializes in carapace damage
placid fiber
I was using the other CS mark and it was doing nothing to ragers without the rev...
the mk4?
placid fiber
Personally I'd just heavy spam or light spam and be safer vs ragers
the mk13g has heavies for armor damage, but, you can probably light spam ragers still
plush estuary
I'm waiting for godd
He said he had plans for formatting it
But I will add that
You want something else for bolter?
Let me know, I am willing to add things
frosty herald
You want something else for bolter?
Yes.
Swap pinning with brittleness
And you dont need flak nor maniac since bolter does enough damage against those
carmine falcon
wait which brittlness blessing
ive been running pinning fire + puncture since forever
plush estuary
Swap pinning with brittleness
I didn't see the value when testing
The only time it did more damage is when you let the bleed do full ticks
sterile basalt
Shattering gives u 4hs crusher with boltgun on zealot
sterile basalt
Cavalcade is more applicable to a wider range of enemies
sterile basalt
Pinning fire is ok, but a lot of the time boltgun only gets drawn on zealot for big mixed horde / boss
Flak doesn’t change boltgun breakpoints on zealot
Maniac gives 2 shot dreg ranger more consistently
Pinning fire is good, although I think it scales better for veteran than zealot
Piety + cavalcade is pretty legit
frosty herald
You could use flak to oneshot on bruiser bodyshot in damnation
But you could also just headshot
sterile basalt
Who actually draws boltgun to kill bruisers on zealot
plush estuary
Should I put cavalcade + puncture (if running priety)?
sterile basalt
Should I put cavalcade + puncture (if running priety)?
Sure
plush estuary
Who actually draws boltgun to kill bruisers on zealot
Newer players
frosty herald
Who actually draws boltgun to kill bruisers on zealot
carmine falcon
as the embrah intended
solar gorge
self reported horde mag dumper
plush estuary
Flak doesn’t change boltgun breakpoints on zealot
What perks should I use?
Elite unyielding?
sterile basalt
What perks should I use?
carapace unyielding prob
lost solar
^ dafq this is golden
plush estuary
No Patrick, that is a car
frosty herald
carapace unyielding prob
spare talon
Who actually draws boltgun to kill bruisers on zealot
Lmao I've unironically horde magdumped in one of my solos bc I wanted a horde gone now and my ds5 woulda been too slow
torpid tulip
@violet hornet why would swift certainty not be popular?
plush estuary
<@265021145953206272> why would swift certainty not be popular?
explained in my guide, if he doesnt get back to you
real sonnet
Piety + cavalcade is pretty legit
Cavalcade + brittleness is such a good anti monstrosity
violet hornet
<@265021145953206272> why would swift certainty not be popular?
Sprinting with stamina already makes you untargetable to ranged attacks from certain angles. Between that and dodging/ sliding the immunity effect doesn't bring much to the table so it's mostly just 5% move speed
violet hornet
(I used to use this before I realized this)
Does brittleness increase damage to monstrosities?
real sonnet
As far as I know yes
plush estuary
You can see it explained in Path's vet guide
but rending increases damage to all armor classes besdies infested and unarmored
(so unyileding is included)
gaunt roost
why is weapon swap so slow in this game
i see a armored enemy and by the time i pull out my bolt gun he’s already dead
real sonnet
why is weapon swap so slow in this game
Some weapons deploy faster than others
gaunt roost
and vice versa for the flamer
real sonnet
i see a armored enemy and by the time i pull out my bolt gun he’s already dead
Because Bolt and flamer are the slowest deploying weapons in this game lol
If you have throwing knives HOWEVER You can bypass this
Start deploying, throw knife, and you'll have it fully deployed instantly
mighty root
i see a armored enemy and by the time i pull out my bolt gun he’s already dead
Most of the time you want your melee to be good at armor
real sonnet
Another throwing knife W
mighty root
Unless you’re using the tac axe, dclaw, hsword, and chainsword
And shockmaul
Then you weep
visual stream
You don't say
mighty root
Having trouble understanding a bit what do I use if I’m not running peity on the Rashad?
Flak unarmored?
sterile stone
You don't say
mighty root
Oops forgot to ping @plush estuary
plush estuary
Having trouble understanding a bit what do I use if I’m not running peity on the...
it reads like, normally take flak + cara/unyield
if taking BP take flak + unarmored
mighty root
Ohhh I see
visual stream
Need to pick back up writing my Ironhelm guide
One of these days
I think I need to rewrite it to reduce yap
sterile basalt
Cavalcade + brittleness is such a good anti monstrosity
nah, boltgun has good ADM vs unyielding so brittleness is just wasted
real sonnet
nah, boltgun has good ADM vs unyielding so brittleness is just wasted
Are you sure? Cuz at least in Havoc 40 it does help us kill the monstrosities a lot faster
Especially with their hp multiplier there
sterile basalt
Are you sure? Cuz at least in Havoc 40 it does help us kill the monstrosities a ...
You can go shoot plague ogryn in the head with/without shattering impact and try to tell how much of a difference it is
I can promise you it’s nowhere as big as you think
real sonnet
Right I do get that but the follow up damage bonus the team get against him
Is really great
sterile basalt
Brittleness has most value
When the attacks used have low ADMs
Which just usually isn’t the case in havoc
This so-called “team value” of brittleness is massively overrated
sterile basalt
I’ll put it this way
If ur boltgun doesn’t get a massive boost in boss dps from shattering
Every other attack with 1 or higher ADM vs unyielding
Will see about the same improvements
ionic quarry
whats the dump stat for the relic blade
misty ravine
whats the dump stat for the relic blade
Mobility
carmine falcon
this might be the most painful malestrom ive ever played
billion bursters blew up in my face
was fun tho
acoustic dune
violet hornet
acoustic dune
Just ate like a pound of hash browns
pine pike
Does anyone know what the relic is called that the zealot holds during the chorus ability?
mighty root
Does anyone know what the relic is called that the zealot holds during the choru...
Just relic or book
That’s what we all cal it
Book so broken
pine pike
ok cool, I've been working on a prop of one for a while and just realized I didn't know what it actually was called haha
mighty root
I don’t really see it a lot besides havoc
acoustic dune
ok cool, I've been working on a prop of one for a while and just realized I didn...
its a I witha skull
pine pike
Yeah that's the image I used for my reference actually, I think I still have the grey name so I can't post my own image yet but once I can I will
On my relic, the skull looks a bit more surprised than angry, so I am planning on building up the brow a bit
violet hornet
Thankfully it doesn't take long to get image perms here
acoustic dune
Thankfully it doesn't take long to get image perms here
lies
it took me MANY moon
to gain the power to post this
violet hornet
it took me MANY moon
Now I'm just picturing you posting
MOON
again and again to get image perms
pine pike
haha
ripe quest
<@265021145953206272> why would swift certainty not be popular?
If people don't run out of stamina when diagonal sprinting in the first place, they won't get a benefit out of Swift Certainty.
acoustic dune
Now I'm just picturing you posting
MOON
again and again to get image perms
bah it took me longer then that
i posted half moons
pine pike
sounds like it's worth to share though
mighty root
acoustic dune
On my relic, the skull looks a bit more surprised than angry, so I am planning o...
are you using maya or building irl?
elfin thorn
pine pike
are you using maya or building irl?
I found a 3d model of one and modified a tiny bit in blender, 3d printed then painting
acoustic dune
i really should learn how to use blender
(i only know how to use maya, and the program is a headache)
pine pike
I mostly just know enough to modify 3d models but haven't really done a ton with it.
I wanted to make a servo skull at one point too but haven't dipped back into that project yet
elfin thorn
Flint n steel
quick over here i will use this funny i with a skull to save us
DEPLOY
mighty root
polar nexus
You want something else for bolter?
Path said it all 😄
plush estuary
Added the info
Internet is down rn, so I can't edit it. But I will note down anything else
polar nexus
Let me know, I am willing to add things
i know you refer to kuli's guide but maybe you should add the stuff that is not clearly said about some talents, like the tg rgen on stalwart and the fact that throwing knives inherit blessings and perks
plush estuary
So more in depth explain Tknife's strengths. And add stalwart as a option
polar nexus
i might forgot a bunch of other ''hidden'' stuff tho
plush estuary
Just let me know
hushed knoll
i might forgot a bunch of other ''hidden'' stuff tho
Hello Keet
hushed knoll
Cats can’t be knights
gaunt roost
whats a good stealth build
violet hornet
The one where you tolerate it long enough to get your penances and then permanently replace it with a useful skill
(there's probably a legit use case for it but we like to hate it here)
Shroudfield perfectionist thunder hammer is a meme build but it does work, you'll just be largely ineffective against anything that isn't a boss
polar nexus
So more in depth explain Tknife's strengths. And add stalwart as a option
Maybe talk about the draw cancel anim tech. Quite useful and not that complicated to pull off.
And I don't think kuli talks about it either
violet hornet
I'm fairly sure knife and tactical axe are common picks for stealth since they let you position for backstabs easily and have the mobility to keep you safe when shroudfield isn't up
acoustic dune
gaunt roost
I'm fairly sure knife and tactical axe are common picks for stealth since they l...
yh i was thinking knife would be good, what ranged weapon? (not flamer or boltgun)
plush estuary
Shredder auto
acoustic dune
yh i was thinking knife would be good, what ranged weapon? (not flamer or boltgu...
tbf knife is greall all aorund
with piety knife is unstopabble
its possible to get 100% crit chance with knife
with only bleed and riposte n 5% crit chance
or was it the other one?
gaunt roost
40% healing reduction
carmine falcon
wot
polar nexus
????
gaunt roost
hows this look for a stealth build
gaunt roost
what should i remove for duelist
plush estuary
Not to be mean
carmine falcon
what should i remove for duelist
everythng after sustained assult
invoc is more than enough
obsidian ore
@plush estuary @frosty herald took this from j_sat's vid a a quick explanation tool if you wanna read the triggers
plush estuary
Okay
frosty herald
oh i know about that
obsidian ore
it's possible to hit captain + monsters though
frosty herald
but i wasnt sure if multiple boss spawns trigger multiple hordes or just 1 for the first
plush estuary
Twins seem distance based
obsidian ore
and if unlucky, which happened to me once, you hit 5 bosses at once
void bison
obsidian ore
twins = 2, default boss 1, captain trigger 1, 1 monstrous proc that happened to not be weakened
gaunt roost
everythng after sustained assult
this better?
obsidian ore
5 bosses
carmine falcon
^^^
polar nexus
with a knife and riposte on it
gaunt roost
i want loner for the penance tho
polar nexus
ok
plush estuary
Shrimple fix
polar nexus
you don't have to take holy rev tho, it's added insurance
you could put that point in good balance
gaunt roost
do i want finesse or mobility dump on combat blade
elfin thorn
do i want finesse or mobility dump on combat blade
my guess is mobility?
frosty herald
do i want finesse or mobility dump on combat blade
mobility.
dont ever dump finesse
elfin thorn
combat blade is the dagger yea? usually the appeal for it is the finesse, and the based in mobility
far as i know the diff between 60% and 80% isn't much either
solar gorge
damage is the dump stat
gaunt roost
what does finesse do
plush estuary
Inspect it
elfin thorn
if you inspect your weapon, think the keybind is v?
it'll tell you when you hover your cursor over it
plush estuary
(crit and weakspot damage, attack speed, and other things)
frosty herald
what does finesse do
weakspot damage and crit damage modifier
polar nexus
You don't ever want to dump finesse on your knife
plush estuary
anyone for duos?
plush estuary
I'll check
gaunt roost
what ranged weapon to pair with knife
twin wagon
Bolter
Become the ammo goblin
Never clear hordes
Just empty your mag into mass elites and keep running
gaunt roost
*other than bolter or flamer i want something new
twin wagon
Hmmm, with knife issue is you need something to clear chaff
If u want something funny tho you could run zealot plasma
Could run the dotgun
Or the epic embed fail
gaunt roost
Could run the dotgun
the what
carmine falcon
do this with DB for maximum funnies
polar nexus
Hmmm, with knife issue is you need something to clear chaff
Agri braced
Or the double barreled shotgun
clever swan
gemini was so helpful for a small coding thing i had to do for Kodi. not sure why it had to be this way, but at least gemini knew...
frosty herald
violet hornet
Man stuff like that would be much funnier if it didn't have like 5 memes and bad edits slapped on top
opaque island
fucking HOW
copper hawk
pilk
carmine falcon
coober physics are peak
frosty herald
fucking HOW
we geeking
placid fiber
@grizzled aspen Frog... what in the hell is this?! I was looking at hephestus' keepsake(from the extra olympians mod) in Hades 1, and I'm gonna spoiler it in case you haven't seen it... but this is stupid op...
grizzled aspen
I know, it's great, isn't it?
placid fiber
I know, it's great, isn't it?
You can basically guarantee cursed slash on any zagrius sword run :\
Unless they gave the 1st reroll fixed rng, it is random like it is for boons
misty nova
fucking HOW
gaunt roost
is riposte or uncanny better on knife
placid fiber
I think that depends on your build
for piety I would probably say riposte, for momentum probably uncanny
misty nova
is riposte or uncanny better on knife
If you're going Piety, Riposte and Precognition 
If not then uncanny+Riposte or Precognition
regal coyote
fucking HOW
nova dude!
stone fern
@hard nexus i found ur brother
winter oxide
whats the best crusher combo to kill crushers?
do i just spam heavy and light overhead?
merry flume
h1 l1
or is it l1 h2
i dunno, the one where you do two vertical attacks in a row
im sure someone will correct me here in a second because i wasn't right, you just gotta wait
visual stream
whats the best crusher combo to kill crushers?
crusher crushing crushers, only crushing the way crusher could crush crushers
misty ravine
Surely the Push Attack must be involved in any good single target Crusher combo
jagged cradle
@copper hawk are you free the 15th
violet hornet
Someone's got a date for tax day 
mighty root
mighty root
Someone's got a date for tax day <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
So happy for you oomf
Mines coming over tomorrow
I’ve been trying to get her to play darktide and not marvel rivals
Also she’s obsessed with sonic
misty nova
whats the best crusher combo to kill crushers?
Special Push Attack to the head
mighty root
@spare talon is unarmored a good pick for the knife to reach bruiser bp?
Is it worth it at all?
void bison
spare talon
it matters much less because it doesnt have brutal momentum
obtuse garnet
mighty root
it matters much less because it doesnt have brutal momentum
I see
Atm I’m running 2 stam and unyielding
I’m also using piety with uncanny and precog
violet hornet
So happy for you oomf
I was shipping cica and wire 
mighty root
Ok real
plush estuary
we were messing around in havoc
so ham pulled out the stealth perfectionist thammer
34k 1 tap
stone fern
dont captains have an HP damage cap?
plucky sparrow
isnt that only on their shield?
median steeple
I didn't think they had any damage cap but they 100% don't on health
solar gorge
dont captains have an HP damage cap?
they do not
mighty root
it matters much less because it doesnt have brutal momentum
Tac axe was unarmored and elites right? Or was elite flak?
spare talon
i do unarmored flak
hard nexus
I was shipping cica and wire <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
@copper hawk
misty walrus
Whats the zealot meta?
plucky sparrow
The Build™
placid fiber
This for the talent tree
misty walrus
ty
visual stream
Marvel Rivals server don't ping challenge
hearty nebula
Smh my head
grave cypress
he was triggering hordes repeatedly and leaving me to kill them while stealthing
i did fine almost all mission
let me have my moment of weakness
gaunt roost
my goat
storm pagoda
he was triggering hordes repeatedly and leaving me to kill them while stealthing
bruh hes doin loner penancy
grave cypress
clever swan
GNARP!!!
median steeple
placid fiber
1st mortis trial of the day and I got randos who knew how to target specials and disablers, I was kinda proud of em ngl. :3
This next one is obviously gonna be the opposite and it's gonna be hell x.x
void bison
I almost got them
uneven galleon
wet rain
I can't get on to test at the moment, but can throwing knives animation cancel relic blade activation?
I feel like I would've tested it before so it's probably a no, but I'm not 100% sure
violet hornet
seems to work, but will interrupt the activation / deactivation if you throw it too early (gotta wait for the satisfying noise)
naive stirrup
guys i fucked up the formatting on steam
i just typed out an entire page with () instead of []
god
dammit
long oasis
naive stirrup
total loss of about 20 minutes of work
placid fiber
this one dude did 181.7k boss damage, in the run I was just in. I got grenade regen and healing grenades again with the box of hurt >.>
clever swan
i wonder if chinese mcdonalds is better than american mcdonalds
long oasis
i wonder if chinese mcdonalds is better than american mcdonalds
I had it once but that was like 8 years ago
grizzled aspen
total loss of about 20 minutes of work
Copy paste?
clever swan
american mcdonald workers would never make a mistake
frozen crystal
Are you guys working together to make a zealot guide or is it strangely you vs ainz/path
naive stirrup
Copy paste?
replace every () with []
naive stirrup
Are you guys working together to make a zealot guide or is it strangely you vs a...
path and ainz are part of mine. iirc theirs they put out recently is more general mine is more in depth
going through every talent, what it does and if it's worth using
violet hornet
replace every () with []
if steam's editor doesn't have a replace all function you could copy it to another text editor to do that, then copy it back
naive stirrup
I'm on mobile
violet hornet
oof
naive stirrup
it's already done too
yeah I'm working on this while at work
aight, back to it i suppose
hearty nebula
glorp
long oasis
new ferret poster spotted
acoustic dune
new ferret poster spotted
i am the ferret poster pope
i am now posting what the god gave me
(bandit dm me ferrets)
long oasis
eggcellent
acoustic dune
blud gave me ferrets at 3 am
misty nova
[current/max]
spice wren
How do I get it to the max?
misty nova
The Empower function at Hadron
spice wren
Ah mastery level okay.
misty nova
Yup
spice wren
So that one almost perfect stat wise.
is that 2% off the mob was on the stopping power
tame sluice
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/put-hat-on-frog-viralhog-frog-wears-hat-frog-gif-19436312
how
ribbit-ing
acoustic dune
this town aint croaking big for the two of us
one must croak so the other thrive
one must yee there last haw
acoustic dune
speaking of which
why have i never seen you in this part of the town
before bangit disapearance?
i have never seen you both in the same room
placid fiber
Stalwart might provide better defense, but, if I am in an elite group and can't secure a kill due to having to keep dodging away with the chainsword, then I feel like fury rising is a better option... especially since the chainsword has shred available to it and the mk13g light spams... I want to like the stalwart side from blazing piety, but, I honestly just generally want fury rising and the additional 10% crit chance instead most of the time... granted I am not doing aurics and maelstroms very often, I would definitely take stalwart for those or havoc
placid fiber
I'm gonna screw around with the chainsword in the mortis trials <.<
I do feel like I really want the bolter to go with it, tho, for crusher gangs :\
void bison
before bangit disapearance?
I don't know who this is. They're me. I'm you.
placid fiber
Also: Hi Yog! :3
acoustic dune
I don't know who this is. They're me. I'm you.
sus
void bison
:#
placid fiber
Bandit and I always miss you when you go away 😦
placid fiber
Sadly bandit isn't here anymore... but I know they still miss you, none the less >.<'
acoustic dune
Sadly bandit isn't here anymore... but I know they still miss you, none the less...
bandit sent ferrets pic from time to time
void bison
placid fiber
acoustic dune
i am now posting ferrets in bandit stead
from what i gather bandit wont be back anytime soon
placid fiber
bandit sent ferrets pic from time to time
Yeah, they always brightened my day... I miss bandit...
copper hawk
<@576701404475949056> are you free the 15th
Probably judging by my past off day pattern
But idk for sure
Our DA6 only goes a week our
Out
And we dont have one for next week yet
hard nexus
Ship tuah
me when im telling the captain of a merchant vessel where i need the cargo shipped (the location is called Uh)
void bison
your pfp reminds me of the need to play signalis
jagged cradle
Probably judging by my past off day pattern
If you are free it would be purrfect that’s when the sm2 update is out
jagged cradle
Cole said he might be free as well
acoustic dune
smth smth ace atterney clown
copper hawk
Cole plays sm2 ???
jagged cradle
Haven’t we played with him before
spice wren
does Heatsink reduce heat when in the powered mode on the relic blade?
acoustic dune
does Heatsink reduce heat when in the powered mode on the relic blade?
yarp
thats my guess
spice wren
can anyone confirm?
Cause heatsink + energy leakage seems like a really strong combo if so
spice wren
I'm not invested in it I'm just asking outta curiousity.
I'll probably just go with wrath rampage for maximum horde slaughter.
acoustic dune
I'll probably just go with wrath rampage for maximum horde slaughter.
you want you always be in power mode anyway
jagged cradle
Cole plays sm2 ???
Also Tintin can finally play it too
grizzled aspen
How i feel w u mfs
Get lifted idiot.
grizzled aspen
can anyone confirm?
It loses 95% efficiency while the sword is on iirc.
Just use cranial grounding and rampage or wrath.
placid fiber
I'm taking fire grenades for the grenade synergy in the mortis trials... but with the bolter as my ranged I REALLY miss the throwing knives :\
hearty nebula
just throw knives lol
misty ravine
does Heatsink reduce heat when in the powered mode on the relic blade?
Yes, but only at 25% of the stated effectiveness unless you are in lockout, per this guide:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222
acoustic dune
Yes, but only at 25% of the stated effectiveness unless you are in lockout, per ...
closest we get to a zealot guide
misty ravine
If Heatsink really did remove 10% heat over 3 seconds (3.3% per second) the weapon would generate almost no "passive" heat while Heatsink was in effect (with 80% Heat Management it generates 3.4% per second while activated)
Cranial is the best heat management blessing generally, and provides a Finesse bonus on top of it. Overload can be situationally useful now that its knockback has been majorly buffed, and while it does nothing to keep you activated longer, it does get you out of lockout faster than anything else (the downside being that you have to put yourself into lockout). Heatsink is mediocre. Energy Transfer is still abysmal dogshit.
gaunt roost
what is the point of melk now that you can buy grey weapons until you get a 60 dump and then infinitely customize it
like i get it back when u had to get lucky with blessings
but he seems useless now
stable cypress
Curio gacha
placid fiber
Someone in this last run got their frames nuked from an ogryn with the upgraded box of nades >.>
sterile basalt
does Heatsink reduce heat when in the powered mode on the relic blade?
yes but at 1/5th of its value
so instead of -3.33% heat per second (which only works in overheat mode)
u get -0.833% heat per second
this gives a total of 2s extra uptime assuming u weakspot/crit kill smth every second
grizzled aspen
Started playing drg again and it's been really fun.
misty nova
True
acoustic dune
Started playing drg again and it's been really fun.
what class are you maining?
frozen crystal
I really enjoy haz 4-5 drg. Pretty easy. But the hard difficulty in that game usually doesn’t appeal to me. I hate kiting non stop
broken walrus
I see [Dogmatic] I click
sometimes people get shot in the head when i do it
Oh well
misty ravine
what is the point of melk now that you can buy grey weapons until you get a 60 d...
Gambling for curios, decent (if not optimized) items for new-ish players who are bottlenecked on Diamantine or whatever
grizzled aspen
what class are you maining?
I main driller but I'm playing scout right now.
acoustic dune
I main driller but I'm playing scout right now.
ah a fellow digger
grizzled aspen
Wait no I didn't mean driller.
I thought about drillers blowing up scouts because I'm playing scout and typed that reflexively.
I main gunner lol.
placid fiber
Ascension riser went about as well as normal >.>
I had the relic blade and the bolt pistol
gaunt roost
would it kill them to make this keep going up
also why does havoc require a premade team i have no friends who play darktide :(
acoustic dune
would it kill them to make this keep going up
just use mods
acoustic dune
to aprilmeijoon the zealot I’m sorry for the other two I tried
what did you do
mighty root
what did you do
Had 2 dead weights in havoc
mighty root
I hate ferrets
acoustic dune
i am sorry to hear that
mighty root
I’d eat one
acoustic dune
I hate ferrets
hearty nebula
let me send gif
plush estuary
hearty nebula
shrimply blocks it
mighty root
and bumpy weird
mighty root
U stink
mighty root
U stink
mighty root
U stink
mighty root
U smell
mighty root
hearty nebula
mighty root
hearty nebula
mighty root
hearty nebula
dis why u noob
acoustic dune
BECOME THE ULTIMATE NOOB NOOB
mighty root
mighty root
Be nice to me
mighty root
Havoc party finder is so good!
I get awesome teammates
@plush estuary do you have a 40?
Oh my SLOP
35?
I’d grind them wif you
sterile basalt
Working on guide
steam guide?
obsidian prairie
Ainz ban is rapidly approaching
frozen kernel
It was a good run, many grubs carried
We’ll erect a small effigy in the corner of the barber shop
plush estuary
Should I add a section of what enemies are?
like what are elites, horde, bosses
and what their armor is?
acoustic dune
They cant ur already in that role
ah yes i forgor
you are the absolute hyper noob noob
times infinity
grizzled aspen
and what their armor is?
A beastiary would be cool.
Especially on how void shields work for captains.
mighty root
@plush estuary why wrath and rampage instead of cranial?
And can we get a havoc section?
plush estuary
probably not for awhile
Vodka's guide I think will have one
wrath rampage is for consistancy, powered and non powered
mighty root
That’s fair
plush estuary
placid fiber
Especially on how void shields work for captains.
Hey, Frog. Have you seen the boon that lets you sacrifice health for shop stuff, yet? I'm not sure I have enough hp for this diamond... what do you think? (It doesn't let you kill yourself for something, sadly) >_>'
sterile stone
Hey, Frog. Have you seen the boon that lets you sacrifice health for shop stuff,...
Blood sacrifice for the gucci diamond
Do it
placid fiber
Blood sacrifice for the gucci diamond
I already tried with something that costed more hp than I had for max hp... it just gave the error thing like when you don't have enough gold to buy it >.>
sterile stone
See if they let you pay in installments
placid fiber
See if they let you pay in installments
If they would then it would probably just take the amount of death defies that I have in order to pay that health cost in full... sadly they do not...
polar nexus
Should I add a section of what enemies are?
i think you already have tables on game lantern
acoustic dune
mighty root
@spare talon please remove your tac axe worm from my brain
I can’t stop using it
And you don’t take any damage because you’re constantly pushed
Might be the funniest thing ever
misty nova
mighty root
Don’t look in the shop
placid fiber
Don’t look in the shop
Is it any more painful to look at than seeing a thammer with damage dumped, hammerblow, and thunderstrike? With crit and weakspot damage perks on it
solar gorge
Don’t look in the shop
median steeple
Bucket of wer slop grins
placid fiber
It's the golden girls!
I reailze that reference might be a bit too old for some people <.<'
topaz orbit
One of them gotta be a hoe then
undone pewter
~~It's the golden girls~~!
It's the somehow easier version
placid fiber
It's the somehow easier version
Yeah, unless you're an idiot like I was that exact time I fought them and stood in the minotaur's spin attack without blocking... then it's just the easier version where you take more damage due to stupidity
The first time I fought that version I had a 10x easier time with thesius' first phase, since he wasn't turning around to block my attacks 1/2 of the time lol