Get hurled back in time to the Vermintide 1H axes
#zealot-class
misty ravine
tranquil owl
Turning off auto aim with controller feels so much better in this game
obsidian prairie
Yes
hard nexus
yah agreed
5% toughness on dodge innate, with second wind increasing it to 15%
misty ravine
yah agreed
5% toughness on dodge innate, with second wind increasing it to 15%
innate toughness on dodge
Agile Dueling Sword secret meta (don't tell Fatshark!)
tranquil owl
Taxe just does The Holy God Emperor's work without complaint or worry
hard nexus
> innate toughness on dodge
Agile Dueling Sword secret meta (don't tell Fatshark...
lmfao
tranquil owl
Is it the best? No, does it care? No
It still splits skulls no matter whats going on
And manages to feel like a truck at times honestly
The special when you hit weakspot is too much fun
polar nexus
Taxe is ethical
spare talon
Taxe just does The Holy God Emperor's work without complaint or worry
Another successful conversion
misty ravine
Taxes are theft
wary finch
Relic blade looks lowkey good with the new coat
spare talon
It hits all the things you want a weapon to do
But is ethical and not META OP
wary finch
Gives off an actual templar feel
misty ravine
Maybe someday Zealot can get some actual armor pants too
wary finch
I got these which are the closest thing to that, literally
I dont remember when i bought em tho
misty ravine
Best I got is sweatpants with plate boots and edgy kneepads
violet hornet
Relic blade looks lowkey good with the new coat
wary finch
Ye
regal coyote
any ranged rec or just shotgun all teh way?
violet hornet
any ranged rec or just shotgun all teh way?
to pair with what melee weapon?
regal coyote
still running crusher until i find an evicerator in the shop
WE GET A BOLT PISTOL?!
nvm, im taking that
violet hornet
nice, those are both fun all rounders so you can kinda get away with anything
bolt pistol is great
I generally prefer a full bolter since I have throwing knives for quick ranged attacks but the bolt pistol works well too, especially with the other two blitzes
violet hornet
good looking build imo
ornate bone
Before I even try it out, revolver + FGS - Thoughts?
dense lynx
Before I even try it out, revolver + FGS - Thoughts?
psyker moment
ornate bone
psyker moment
yuh
plush estuary
Before I even try it out, revolver + FGS - Thoughts?
Smite selected so instantly it's gross
ornate bone
it's the highlight of the build >:l
plush estuary
That's the problem
But you do you
I usually just kill smite teammates
With barrels and bursters
ornate bone
why
plush estuary
Smite isn't fun to play with and around. It removes the interactions with enemies in melee
stone fern
smite disables the game
copper hawk
Nop
plush estuary
I like to fight a enemy not a standing still doll
copper hawk
Slaught confident
stone fern
like 99% of the people who run smite just hold it all the time
plush estuary
And zealot has a lot of dodge buffs and I don't proc when all the enemies are smited
stone fern
I like to fight a enemy not a standing still doll
how many psykers have you seen smite for .5 seconds then go in melee?
stone fern
yeah why should you take the risk
stone fern
yeah see
plush estuary
Exactly
misty ravine
Safety vs fun, the eternal struggle
stone fern
now that kenitic flayer is meta on staves no one uses smite anymore anyways
ornate bone
I'm just looking for a fun time with smite cause I've never used it
stone fern
smite isnt even fun for the psyker
you just hold 2 buttons
brainburst is a lot more fun imo
you can jump and select enemies behind cover or precharge it for a suprise pop
or lock in and explode heads from cover
plush estuary
Fun is subjective, you can run whatever you want
Smite is just a hot topic
At the end of the day
It's night....
copper hawk
But so is the fun of the other players,, and be aware if u spam smite a lot the likelihood of u dying a barrelish death goes up
ornate bone
Does charged strike even do anything or is it just meh?
I'm not looking to spam smite I'm looking to disable an encroaching group of big bads on havoc 40 then swing with the FGS.
plush estuary
Does charged strike even do anything or is it just meh?
I'm not looking to spam ...
It's meh
Tell me when you get to havoc 40
I actually want to know how people are doing
ornate bone
Almost there, the update made it more painful to play with randoms.
plush estuary
I only play with the best players
copper hawk
Id thonk they were bein a poopy head
plush estuary
So idk how the pubs are
fleet zealot
Does charged strike even do anything or is it just meh?
I'm not looking to spam ...
it got buffed
copper hawk
And i would have 2 rip ur head off
ornate bone
So idk how the pubs are
not good
copper hawk
W my immense p0w4r
fleet zealot
it's actually pretty good for trash tier mobs the dot
copper hawk
Any push even if it doesn't stagger applies brittleness
Ill have 2 try it
plucky gate
Before I even try it out, revolver + FGS - Thoughts?
I think it's kinda weird to not pick any of the top left nodes.
Also think charged strike is a little redundant on the FGS because the sword heavies are realistically gonna kill anything that would be taking relevant damage from the shock
copper hawk
It just seems painful 2 use since ur not cleaving anything
fleet zealot
clever swan
tryhards in a coop game are so wild 
copper hawk
And my cleavers are under leveled
Im using the same cleaver i used before bb3 got nerfed
Eons ago
It has like 67% single target lmfao
First target*
stone fern
🤔 should i play havoc this time or wait for the 3rd rework
muted pike
Does charged strike even do anything or is it just meh?
I'm not looking to spam ...
Charged Strike is at its best vs hordes
ornate bone
Well I'm trying the mk 6 FGS so heavies against hordes isn't exactly
yeah
Apparently the mk 6 is all the rave rn?
plucky gate
Does charged strike even do anything or is it just meh?
I'm not looking to spam ...
It seems good for hordes on weapons that hit a lot of enemies but are bad at killing them
https://streamable.com/j1yjlw
slap charged strikes on the most dogshit weapons imagineable
probably not fgs
stone fern
Does charged strike even do anything or is it just meh?
I'm not looking to spam ...
oh wait yeah if its havoc go nuts
sullen forge
Ill have 2 try it
It helps specifically with carapace
plucky gate
fgs is too good at actually doing things
sullen forge
I'd honestly say run a stam curios cause I notice I run out of stamina when its Crusher spam
ornate bone
I'm only at havoc 36 rn, not 40.
sullen forge
It just seems painful 2 use since ur not cleaving anything
Also I have to ask what blessings and keystone
stone fern
i only played to havoc 38 before the update so idk whats its like now
sullen forge
Tenderizer + Slaught is pretty yummies
ornate bone
the difficulty isn't even comparable to what it was tbh
copper hawk
Also I have to ask what blessings and keystone
Heavy hitter
muted pike
Charged Strike is goated on stuff like dclaw, shock maul, Illisi, etc....
sullen forge
Heavy hitter
What subnodes on HHi
sullen forge
One second
ornate bone
Wait so checking the attack patterns.. Why would you use FGS Mk 6 over the other one?
muted pike
Wait so checking the attack patterns.. Why would you use FGS Mk 6 over the other...
Mk6 has the h1 overhead right? And the other has the h1 diagonal?
sullen forge
Middle is Att Speed, Top left is TDR, Bottom Left is Cleave Bottom right is Impact and Top right is Toughness on Melee Kill @copper hawk
I typically do Att Speed and Impact
Cause its synergizing with Slam giving me stamina back
ornate bone
Mk6 has the h1 overhead right? And the other has the h1 diagonal?
h1 diag but then every following heavy is overhead
muted pike
Mk6 is the diag one???
muted pike
Yeah, to simply it the Mk6 starting with overhead is why its used. That combined with how good stab is leads to faster TTKs vs elites
copper hawk
Middle is Att Speed, Top left is TDR, Bottom Left is Cleave Bottom right is Impa...
Ill try it
Or i WONT
U will never know
Nyahahahaha ,,
muted pike
The diagonal makes the mk8 doodoo in comparison
Usually takes like an additional attack on enemies to kill for that reason
wary finch
Love the new flamer skin too
Even if it being wood is completely nonfucking-sensical
hearty nebula
Love the new flamer skin too
Even if it being wood is completely nonfucking-sens...
Skaven built
regal coyote
its BLESSED wood....prob
wary finch
Perhaps
muted pike
I'd never be able to run flamer on zealot
I lack the skill to make it work
If you run flamer on zealot you gotta be good with the tknives
north sedge
🤔
brisk raft
Love the new flamer skin too
Even if it being wood is completely nonfucking-sens...
Its not steel beams so it will last
muted pike
You don't have a legit a legit ranged option if you run flamer without tknives
I'm a bolt pistol pleb for life
wary finch
Its not steel beams so it will last
brisk raft
Ranged? proceeds to dash slide all the way to that sniper to shank
placid fiber
You don't have a legit a legit ranged option if you run flamer without tknives
the vet main who shoots the hordes you are meleeing instead of the sniper sniping him:
muted pike
The thing that bugs me is Zealot actually has solid nades, his kit just doesnt support them at all
Zealot nades just kind of exist
wary finch
Ogryn forbidden jutsu: Teleporticus
muted pike
Zealot has the best variety of blitzes, keystones, and abilities in the game imo
But Zealot has the most absolute garbage tier skill tree in the game, so everyone runs the same 1 build
Psyker has great abilities and keystones, but the blitzes are 🤮
Vet's smokes are 🤮 and a ton of their power budget is crammed into VoC
craggy robin
hey im using the relic sword for the first time, how do i get the upper cut swing to happen?
plush estuary
hey im using the relic sword for the first time, how do i get the upper cut swin...
What mark of sword are you using
only the mk2 has the uppercut
in his heavy combo
tranquil owl
Ainz to the rescue
tranquil owl
You're on zealot, accept heby
tranquil owl
Embrace heby
copper hawk
U r still benyaeth me
tranquil owl
Become the heby
copper hawk
Prepare for my arrival, mouse
plush estuary
cica and cat changing pfp every 2 days
craggy robin
so the hammer is what your saying
tranquil owl
You are
Heby
wary finch
The fuck is a heby?
copper hawk
cica and cat changing pfp every 2 days
Stfu b4 i rip up ur curtains
hearty nebula
cica and cat changing pfp every 2 days
bitch i had the nineball for at least a month
plush estuary
atleast 2
tranquil owl
The fuck is a heby?
Heavy but with a speach impediment
hearty nebula
stfu
wary finch
Heavy but with a speach impediment
Ah
Ok mike tyson, carry on
plush estuary
copper hawk
Brynn-the-Felinid needs brand representation
tranquil owl
Ah
Ok mike tyson, carry on
You are an Imperial Treasure lmfao
copper hawk
As my darktide oc pls no steal
tranquil owl
Never change Shin
copper hawk
Even if this is some random catboy image
hearty nebula
ur pfps not furry enough 2 be felinidz
copper hawk
Many such cases
wary finch
You are an Imperial Treasure lmfao
I'm many things
copper hawk
We actually have no idea what they look like
Like properly
One of the like
2 abhumans that has info that doesnt have enough
craggy robin
is it still worth it to use this relic sword then?
tranquil owl
is it still worth it to use this relic sword then?
Yeh they just buffed it
craggy robin
what do i build for on it?
copper hawk
Only other busted weapon actually
Piety
Or IJ for breakpoints
General use cases call for piety
IJ is more specific
tranquil owl
Yeh, piety is easiest to use imo, and stong
craggy robin
sounds like a plan
tranquil owl
Tho not all weapons synergize as well with piety as others
wary finch
Shin is actually the 5th chaos god
Perhaps 
craggy robin
got syphon and energy transfer, i feel like i need other blessings
burnt folio
Alrighty, a friend o mine said the thunder hammer dmg got nerfed but im not seeing anything in the patch notes.
Are they right and by how much did it get lowered?
plucky sparrow
it got lowered awhile ago
Mainly to make it less a monster killer and more elite killing
copper hawk
plush estuary
or havoc
burnt folio
it got lowered awhile ago
But not the most recent stuff then yeah?
plucky sparrow
it wasn’t recent yea
copper hawk
Here's my build for it
Yeah
Thammer got tweaked in UnL
It was generally a huge buff
They nerfed the boss killing weapon (in lore, in game, by design) because it did its job too well
craggy robin
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da3f788-30e4-4894-ba96-11b2065387e0/th...
thanks
copper hawk
And decided to turn their blind eyes to the dueling sword
tranquil owl
A boss killing weapon killing bosses?
copper hawk
Because what the fuck is balance or design consistency
tranquil owl
tranquil owl
Even tho ds is literally op
copper hawk
If u ever want to run a thunder hammer
Like for anything other than for funsies
Like u need a high damage dps weapon
Dont. Use the dueling sword 4
With uncanny and precog/riposte
It's better in every way
tranquil owl
To the point you either take a relic blade or take a more mid all-rounder or something that specs heavy in single or horde clear
copper hawk
Including staggering enemies lmfao
The special poke will stagger a crusher mid overhead with a weakspot hit
THammer needs a whole ass talent to stagger ragers in their combo
tranquil owl
Yeah, at this point tho, I'd rather run thammer than ds just cause ds feels too good too use half the time for me
Mastered the thing
And got bored of it soon after
burnt folio
I just use Hammer cuz I like it. Not a meta chaser
Like ill ask the council for tips on what to use on it so its not a pool noodle but other than that I'm not someone whose doin havoc 40 yknow
copper hawk
Tl dr a toothpick staggers 10 foot monsters in the best armor the Imperium offers next to ceramite, and it's very close, that weigh probably more than a ton
In one quick poke
tranquil owl
In one quick poke
Right lmfao
copper hawk
And the giant two handed tank buster hammer, like Leman Russ buster, cant knock over a homeless crack addict who aggro'd on you with his pipe weapons after u just walked our of a Tertium Starbucks
tranquil owl
Why Exterminatus when you can commit genocide with a toothpick?
copper hawk
Shirtless homeless crack addict
tranquil owl
It is fun to use time to time, but it would be a bit more fun if it wasn't as strong, dont want it heavily nerfed imo
copper hawk
A lot of people who were pissed with the thammer doing tons of boss damage say now they hate the ds and the negative i fluence it puts onto the highest levels of play
But were totally silent about the ds back then
Or may even say shit like it was more balanced on psyker
Shit was always busted
copper hawk
More balanced on psyker the same way the hindenberg disaster was less catastrophic than the sinking of the titanic
tranquil owl
Ngl good example lmao
copper hawk
Missing the forest for the trees
copper hawk
Is psyker supposed to be even better with ds?
Psyker is built around crits
Then and now
With scriers especially
Scriers lets you do the same shit zealot does, along with other stupid shit
Like DD and having survivability analogous to zealot with empathetic evasion
tranquil owl
Making an oggy when i get back on to darktide over psyker at this point as is
Cause box of cannot see
copper hawk
Higher effective crit with the same weapon getting crits constantly while also rewarded for critting by being [title card, music] Invincible to shooters
tranquil owl
But also cause i wanna play oggy
copper hawk
Zealot is a very prepare to fail sort of survivable compared to Psyker
tranquil owl
But so far im a Zealot first and foremost
tranquil owl
Yeah and i like that about zealot
copper hawk
Zame
tranquil owl
You really do become the make or break at times
muted pike
Psyker also has god tier toughness generation
copper hawk
Yeag
tranquil owl
I've noticed that as well
karmic mountain
Anyone have a recomended build for relic blade book vet for havoc? Also, what's the dump stat for relic?
misty nova
Mobility
tranquil owl
Oggy gets 20% on hit with 2 talents
Oggy go haha it tickles?
copper hawk
Vet has a better ewew and a second wind alike that stacks tdr as well
plush estuary
copper hawk
Also, oggys tness talents are right fucking next to eachother
muted pike
VoC + Iron Will is the nuts
sullen forge
fucking ignore you the MOMENT you get disabled
copper hawk
Because loner zealots should all be chummed
plush estuary
funny thing
plush estuary
zealot and having builds
tranquil owl
fucking ignore you the MOMENT you get disabled
What region?
plush estuary
there really is only 1 build
copper hawk
There isnt any
sullen forge
US-E
copper hawk
We have two builds
plush estuary
then pick your keystone
muted pike
Loner Zealot + Smykers = the cancer of the dt community
copper hawk
Well
delicate shadow
there really is only 1 build
middle
sullen forge
I literally got trappered once
sullen forge
and then just watched them literally stare at me
tranquil owl
Haven't played Mortis yet tho
sullen forge
as I got ripped in half by 5 ragers
plucky sparrow
Loner zealot when they realize a node at the top of the tree literally does the same exact thing as the entire aura
copper hawk
1 2/3rds builds
delicate shadow
no worries
tranquil owl
But i will priorize keeping mfs alive
copper hawk
The top and middle are the same cuz the rest of the talents are either dogshit, broken, or unable to compete
karmic mountain
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da3f788-30e4-4894-ba96-11b2065387e0/th...
Is it not better to go book for havoc?
tranquil owl
Cause team based game
plush estuary
copper hawk
Is it not better to go book for havoc?
Depends on how confident you are in your own skill
Or your allies'
karmic mountain
Depends on how confident you are in your own skill
Not very, I'm starting out in havoc, sooooooo Shrug
copper hawk
I have like two schools of thought on the bookchise thing
In games like these, the best way to help your teammates is to kill as many enemies as you possibly can
Every other role sorta spins out off that fundamental reality
Dead enemies = Not hurting ur team
Ur job as a zeal is apply pressure and deal damage
To hordes, to single targets, or a variety of the two
tranquil owl
Alright, so ppl already asked, but with the changes to relic blade did said blessings become "viable"?
copper hawk
CC, DPS, Generalist respectively
tranquil owl
The ones that got buffed
copper hawk
If your team has enough damage or the roles covered
Then perhaps you could go book to better guarantee the chances of success
Since it's like smite
Oh shit all bulwarks/crushers/bosses button
It pauses the game for a few secs and resets the enemies
If u have a purg ds psyker an any oggy and a plamma vet w voc and a ds u can run book
Itll be boring as shit
broken walrus
Best part of book is going "oope excuse me" as you brush past all the stunned enemiees and slowly walk up the gunners
copper hawk
But ull be helpin ur team in being able to keep the pressure off ur teammates w golden tness
Actually no
If u have like a voc vet dont run book
It's a better book
tranquil owl
Best part of book is going "oope excuse me" as you brush past all the stunned en...
Me with chorus as i guide the team to the asshole gunners begging to be purged
copper hawk
Run chastise
tranquil owl
Tbf
copper hawk
Ur horde clear and pressure/rending is important
tranquil owl
I only have so many pulses
plucky sparrow
Best part of book is going "oope excuse me" as you brush past all the stunned en...
The zealot power walking with pure hatred towards the lone gunner
wary finch
Since it's like smite
Ackshually
Smite can be done longer with Emp resolve
It just has none of the benefits of book and thrice the chance of pissing off the team
🤓 🤓 🤓
copper hawk
Alright, so ppl already asked, but with the changes to relic blade did said bles...
Depends on wgo u ask
tranquil owl
Depends on wgo u ask
Thats become what i expect
copper hawk
Some already say the changed blessings were perfectly viable
Theyre just a bit better now
I know a high level of play dorn grub uses the explode on lockout one
Cuz it essentially shaves more time off overall between activation and deactivation
tranquil owl
Ooh okay
tranquil owl
Ainz halp
copper hawk
He's the dorn grub intelligence officer
tranquil owl
Your wisdom is so vast, we seek your mercy in the form of forgiveness for not knowing, oh great Ainz Ooal
If that is the reference, if not then i shun myself in embarrassment
wary finch
Prepare the sacrifical.smykers for the ainz summoning
brisk raft
I prefer Momonga sama
tranquil owl
I prefer Momonga sama
Flying Squirrel lol
brisk raft
No not the cute oneeee
copper hawk
@karmic mountain https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da488ca-149d-448a-bd52-dfe4f41d7f95/zealot-havoc-carry-build
tranquil owl
No not the cute oneeee
Yee Ainz nickname yeah? Lol
copper hawk
If u rlly want 2 u can drop twbs and dance w wherever u want those points
I'd recommend somethin like
Disdain and anoint
tranquil owl
I just got on darktide, im either gonna keep on zealot for tonight or make my first second char, Oggy, and experience the rework, you can guess which im learning towards lol
muted pike
The crusher is where its at
copper hawk
It's over
Ur 2 late
I've triumphed
The felinid cause continues
Our goalz ? Who knowz ,,
fleet zealot
fleet zealot
The felinid cause continues
i am a one man army for marbled polecats
final basalt
visual stream
i am a one man army for marbled polecats
Zigzagoon 93% accuracy
real sonnet
ornate bone
That's a chonky boi
mighty root
I took off my until death training wheels
And purg that extra point into good balance
mighty root
ENOUGH
mighty root
Ok this is awesome
visual stream
And purg that extra point into good balance
One crutch for anotha...
visual stream
Until I see you path straight middle your existence is meaningless and you're playing easy mode
mighty root
Until I see you path straight middle your existence is meaningless and you're pl...
I don’t wanna middle
tidal berry
that is a ritual circle you can't fool me
visual stream
YOU'RE GONNA SAINTED GUNSLINGER AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT
carmine falcon
You WILL impactmaxx son
visual stream
you WILL impactmaxx, you WILL coherency regenmaxx
placid fiber
Until I see you path straight middle your existence is meaningless and you're pl...
but the middle crutches on purge the unclean, the middle career, and attack speed
visual stream
"Grievous wounds rager breakpoint" what happened to just killing them 
carmine falcon
All talents are crutches
Real tiders go into missions with 0 taken
placid fiber
It's really hard to path a 0 crutch zealot build... honestly not even sure if you can
visual stream
Come zealot tree rework when it finally arrives in our childrens' childrens' future, we will have enough crutchless talents to make it happen
placid fiber
Come zealot tree rework when it finally arrives in our childrens' childrens' fut...
the problem might be the same as we have now: The path to said crutchless talents has a crutch talent in the path
visual stream
No
It is psykerogryntide from now on
No room for us anymore...
The time of zealot is kill
placid fiber
path to loner? One path has twbs which is a crutch, one path has good balance which is another crutch... both paths have the spread reduction on dodges which is a crutch
tidal berry
The time of zealot is kill
good, end my suffering
placid fiber
benediction? It's already a crutch. Middle aura? Havoc crutch
besides both paths to benediction have a crutch: duellist or until death
I will say that duellist is a crutch leaned on much harder than until death <.<
tidal berry
isn't like %90 of zealots kit entirely functioning on dodge procs anyway?
placid fiber
a lot of it does
tidal berry
and then you have two keystones that work without any input and one that, oh would you look at that, it works when you dodge
placid fiber
Keystones on zealot benefit you when you just play the game lol
no special tricks needed
tidal berry
I don't have a problem with zealot tree
I simply do not care about darktide balance anymore
placid fiber
It would be nice to see them try to give us more builds
tidal berry
Game has far bigger problems now than simple talent tree choices or X weapon is doing too much
there is no bar anymore
and what endgame we have is some fomo ranking system
frozen kernel
Could be time to try something else if you aren’t having fun anymore
tidal berry
Oh I do
frozen kernel
I’d picked up No Mans Sky and Jedi Survivor a couple months back because I was bored lol
Never touched either so I had a blast
tidal berry
I tried NMS recently
Its been sitting in my inventory for like years and received morbillion free updates
well, we tried
frozen kernel
^^
tidal berry
I'll say it was a pretty ok exploration game
but multiplayer, the way it works was disappointing and rather buggy
frozen kernel
I’m the kind of person who can milk 10+ hours out of something as shallow as The Long Drive
tidal berry
I think I expected an experience similar to that of project zomboid or valheim, that kind of multiplayer, instead it was rather... uncooked.
frozen kernel
It scratched that annual “alright time to boot up vanilla Minecraft” feeling
placid fiber
I’m the kind of person who can milk 10+ hours out of something as shallow as The...
I'm the kind that gets trapped in rogue lites/likes >.>
frozen kernel
Project Zomboid…I still haven’t touched B42
tidal berry
Waiting for it to hit multiplayer release
frozen kernel
I’m jonesing for NPC’s to return
tidal berry
then we have some fun campaigns planned
tidal berry
might even involve a little PvP Idk yet
frozen kernel
It’s a lovely lil game though
frozen kernel
Great for RP and small scale stuffs
tidal berry
but you don't want ALL runners
placid fiber
or bandit mod
tidal berry
you want a mix ideally
frozen kernel
I had a whole mod pack a while back
There was an event where everything would get DARK
tidal berry
https://tenor.com/view/bandit-risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain-bandit-sweet-dreams-picm...
I play commando instead
frozen kernel
And zombies would turn into runners for like 3 days
tidal berry
yes I eat glue could you tell yet?
placid fiber
There was an event where everything would get DARK
placid fiber
I play commando instead
I'm a mando main
frozen kernel
It was a whole Silent Hill pack
tidal berry
I'm a mando main
tbh I kinda dumped him for railgunner
placid fiber
Railgunner is fun, but, she's just so op that things can get underwhelming kinda fast
tidal berry
I'd play mando more if he had anything more than being a proc mule going for him
placid fiber
I've mained mando so long I run light flux pauldron and purity on him
tidal berry
mando runs are like sitting in front of a pachinko machine you roll the dice you get good items good run bad items bad run no variance
frozen kernel
placid fiber
I've mained mando so long I run light flux pauldron and purity on him
half attack speed and -1 luck run is pure crack, and I wouldn't advise it unless you main mando
even then I wouldn't
it's early flight
frozen kernel
RoR2 is weird because I expected there to be so much more modded content than there actually is
placid fiber
but there is a lot of modded content...
frozen kernel
But the base game stuffs is already so robust that at least I don’t feel the need to go find more
tidal berry
there kinda is tho
placid fiber
updates just broke a lot
frozen kernel
^
Never bought the DLC but the game was on sale for the price of a sandwich, or I got it thru humble
placid fiber
I played the new dlc and had fun. I also played inferno enough that the extra elite spawns didn't feel weird to me
frozen kernel
So I finally played and when I heard the soundtrack???
frozen kernel
placid fiber
they've already fixed 2/3rds of the dlc issues pretty much
I'm waiting on the last fix to go back
tidal berry
https://tenor.com/view/monkey-vibing-gif-19937674
when the funny saxophone track plays I go neuron activation like this
placid fiber
chef was so bad, tho, it was sadge
glad the 3rd update fixes it
both the other dlc characters I liked, chef was just underwhelming
frozen kernel
when the funny saxophone track plays I go neuron activation like this
“And his music was electric”
Jellydog soaring across the sunbursted sky to an absolutely bitching guitar solo
I did not understand people making an O face while playing guitar until the RoR2 OST
tidal berry
“And his music was electric”
>Jellydog soaring across the sunbursted sky to an ...
Idk many games that top RoR2 for soundtrack
placid fiber
ror1/rorr has some really good ones
tidal berry
Signalis had some good pieces ig
frozen kernel
(I say that acknowledging 7 minute guitar solos)
tidal berry
depressing ass game
tidal berry
ultrakill has some fire ones too
frozen kernel
Choir: “HOOOH HEEEE AAAHHHHHH OOOOHHHHH”
SLAMS ORGAN KEYS
tidal berry
Most games just fall back on generic orchestral bullshit
If its not memorable or fitting it might aswell not be there
I turn it off when I play helldivers now
placid fiber
Oooh that’s good
that wasn't even done by chris lol
frozen kernel
I need it to go somewhere. It feels like it’s building and building to nothing
I want the beat to drop!
Get STANKY
Full arcade machine
frozen kernel
I turn it off when I play helldivers now
HD2 OST was such a step back from HD1, weirdly enough
HD1 had unique themes for different factions and difficulties
tidal berry
HD2 OST was such a step back from HD1, weirdly enough
Some parts are strong but I feel as thought as they made a joke of the game, so did its general theme become one too.
hard nexus
HD2 OST was such a step back from HD1, weirdly enough
agreed
tidal berry
Doesn't help that its just the same theme thats being spammed ad infinitum
hearty nebula
HD2 OST was such a step back from HD1, weirdly enough
agreed
frozen kernel
Darktide OST at least goes hard, so I don’t feel the need to put on Cabana music
When the carnival music plays I just get stupid
tidal berry
Darktide OST at least goes hard, so I don’t feel the need to put on Cabana music
Jesper Kyd is getting wasted working on this game
broken walrus
Yeah ive done some dumb things in the name of the emperor cuz the music was swelling
hard nexus
oh my god the pitt is fucking gut wrenching
tidal berry
HD1 had unique themes for different factions and difficulties
Feel like HD2 suffers a bit from its own popularity
placid fiber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmW7UR2HwXM
Also this version has the hidden character heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EngHZlhq5Mg
tidal berry
and its definitely a rushed game in a lot of ways
frozen kernel
Jesper Kyd is getting wasted working on this game
I take solace in the YouTube subtitle guy
placid fiber
I take solace in the YouTube subtitle guy
btw what do you think of this one? >.> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fniWXirfDng
sullen forge
gaunt roost
does yellow mean preference
placid fiber
for the most part
tho twbs is optional now
meow has to make a new version sometime
It just depends on what weapon you have
gaunt roost
It just depends on what weapon you have
placid fiber
hm
if you have shred then scourge + crit tdr are better than 50% more melee kill toughness
misty mason
Twbs you want for thammer builds still
placid fiber
^
acoustic dune
check pin
placid fiber
slow weapons and chain onebenefit from twbs
gaunt roost
whats twbs
misty mason
Thy wrath be swift, basically stun immunity
placid fiber
thy wrath be swift, no stuns
acoustic dune
Twbs you want for thammer builds still
i hate how i saw thammer and my brian went to
tanner build
placid fiber
You also can't get knocked off of the auspex, or w/e they're called, machines unless you get disabled/downed/killed
acoustic dune
i am so cooked chat
gaunt roost
You also can't get knocked off of the auspex, or w/e they're called, machines un...
oh thats rly nice
misty mason
Yeh, it's especially important for thammer because if you get hit while charged (including standing in burgle grule) you lose the charg and have to reactivate it
placid fiber
oh thats rly nice
Yeah, it helps when your randos are stupid and don't defend you
ogryns get that be default
not getting knocked off anyway
gaunt roost
hows this look
misty mason
That's basically my thammer build so yeh
placid fiber
hows this look
meta
placid fiber
That's basically my thammer build so yeh
you use a crit thammer build?
misty mason
Yes
placid fiber
Eh your choice
misty mason
gaunt roost
how do masteries work
acoustic dune
how do masteries work
play game with weapon level it up
placid fiber
you get exp when sacrificing a weapon of that type(only has to be green) and playing missions
gaunt roost
which upgrade should i prio first in it
placid fiber
how do masteries work
oh and fyi: I only said something to dan since a crit build is the worst build for a thammer >.>
misty mason
Depends on the weapon
placid fiber
^
misty mason
oh and fyi: I only said something to dan since a crit build is the worst build f...
Says you
hearty nebula
you ar a real one... thank u
acoustic dune
which upgrade should i prio first in it
the blessing you want
misty mason
Darkpill is just jealous of my cool factor
placid fiber
Says you
says the person who has the skill to pull one off, which invalidates you succeeding by running it since skill outweighs the build's strength
misty mason
acoustic dune
i think i should make a loner shroudfield marty build
placid fiber
i think i should make a loner shroudfield marty build
@misty mason I dare u to do this
misty mason
Make sure to run it with knife to live your memedreams
misty mason
Thammer shroud feels yucky lol
visual stream
Thammer and piety mentioned in same sentence
acoustic dune
Make sure to run it with knife to live your memedreams
i arleady have a dump damage bleed crit build
visual stream
Liver function cessation imminent
placid fiber
Thammer shroud feels yucky lol
true
placid fiber
Did I disagree? :3
misty mason
The ABCs of zealot are
Always
Be
Charging
acoustic dune
placid fiber
The ABCs of zealot are
Always
Be
Charging
I am always fully charging my heavies
misty mason
Unironically good advice lol
misty mason
Yeah the twbs build is probably also needed for relic blade ideally
placid fiber
twbs is only needed for the mk2 iirc
misty mason
But I don't use that fancy man biz
placid fiber
since it uses heavies for horde clear
visual stream
I run no TWBS on my relic build because chorus point tax is real
misty mason
Gimme a bonk or give me a combat axe
misty ravine
The ABCs of zealot are
Always
Be
Charging
"Charge on cooldown? I don't give a shit. Chorus build? Fuck you, go home and play with your wife's kids."
placid fiber
Gimme a bonk or give me a combat axe
A bonk? Go main brunt's basher
misty mason
Man now that they've buffed ogryn i would love to go smack some idiots in the head with my idiot stick
Zealot will always be my main tho
Ogryn doesn't call anyone clarty head
placid fiber
ogryns come with a free twbs
misty ravine
If you thought Rashad and Dueling Sword were mindless wait till you try the mk4 cleaver
misty mason
I love lmb weapons bro
I just wish I could make brain smoother for extra enjoyment
(I unironically love the cleaver)
placid fiber
the person who takes mcdonalds home and reheats it 2 days later:
misty mason
Ogryn is always the class I want to play least but have some of the best time playing
misty ravine
I like it too but I think it's hilarious that I tried using PA>Heavy>Light loop on hordes or Heavy>Special loop on carapace etc. and literally just clicking mouse1 seemed to work (even) better in all cases
Even when taking almost no melee talents so I could demospam
next warren
Finally my Euphrati Keeler reference is done
misty mason
One thing that's funny with ogryn is that I know that gorgnum is no longer the undisputed king of twin stubbers, but I can't use any of the others cause it just doesn't feel right
placid fiber
One thing that's funny with ogryn is that I know that gorgnum is no longer the u...
the achlys is technically more accurate
misty mason
But does sound as good? Does it cleave as good?
misty mason
Does it have as silly a name as gorgnum?
gaunt roost
i see the non paid cosmetics havent improved in the past year
misty mason
Look, I'm a agripina enjoyer, I'm all about the slow cleavey shooty guns
placid fiber
agripinaa <.<
misty mason
worhammer 4ok
placid fiber
worms eating 4 old people
misty mason
THACO
placid fiber
even a soft shell taco
misty mason
I eat burritos with a knife and fork all the time
placid fiber
but do you eat... white bacon?
misty mason
I only do it when Im at work, because otherwise I get sauce all down my hand and sleeves lol
Also
placid fiber
at least you have a legit reason lol
misty mason
I'll have you know the Mexican man calls me amigo, so it's fine
placid fiber
inb4 the mexican man calls everyone amigo
misty mason
I am a friend
Look
When I go with my colleague, she gets called senorita
I am friend, she is lady
placid fiber
I am friend, she is lady
Now take a bro there
placid fiber
You don't get mexican with the bros? Rookie
misty mason
All my friends at work are girls lol
misty mason
Sefoni needs to chill when she's thinking about her squadmates
misty mason
Ahhh
She does something
But it aint gasping
Need to get her out of that gfamer girl bathwater
placid fiber
Need to get her out of that gfamer girl bathwater
it's simply fan service for the sefoni simps
long oasis
red mesa
for havoc is cranial grounding and rampage good for relic, or do you want wrath for sure?
misty ravine
Or Moebian 21st when it comes back
red mesa
has devil claw buff made it any better, or sucks vs carapace and that still holds it back? I havent tried it
im guessing its not good in havoc at least
placid fiber
Or Moebian 21st when it comes back
it's official, 21st in the gifs only means a birthday
placid fiber
has devil claw buff made it any better, or sucks vs carapace and that still hold...
Unless they changed the damage on it I think the parry can still 1 shot crushers with chastise
but otherwise yeah it sucks vs carapace... which isn't the intended target with it lol
It's kinda like complaining about how the knife doesn't have very good horde clear tho, tbh
long oasis
most likely
long oasis
I lack shrimple krill
placid fiber
I lack shrimple krill
red mesa
Unless they changed the damage on it I think the parry can still 1 shot crushers...
thing that sucks is every group expects you to run chorus
i really like chastise with devil claw and even relic blade
placid fiber
I'm not sure the dclaw is a good pick for higher havoc levels
but I also don't know
placid fiber
I mean if you're talking havoc you're already ruling weapons out
aside from maybe the mk1 dclaw if there's a will there's a way to make pretty much every melee weapon perform in the base game
even the achlys caxe
muted pike
Achlys is fun, love weapons that horde clear well with pa + heavy
hexed igloo
lost pumice
Is the zealot supposed to get a perk overhaul like the psyker and ogryn did eventually?
muted pike
I'd think theyd be next, they mentioned something in the patch notes
lost pumice
Oh nice. I didn't know if vet or zealot would be next
muted pike
Theres no confirmation who is next, but they did specifically mention Zealot needing special attention
ashen pier
The relic sword is a little wonky sometimes, but pretty good ngl
Although what changes should be preferable?
muted pike
Although what changes should be preferable?
For zealot in general?
ashen pier
For zealot in general?
Yep
lost pumice
There isn't very much build variety
You got crit and non crit lol
Not that simple, but still
muted pike
Zealot's blitzes and skills are good. Their keystones are good.
Everything else is either a steaming pile of shit or bonkers
So every single zealot build picks up the bonkers stuff and skips all the shit.
Which leaves everyone running the same exact build
ashen pier
The loner trait was pretty bonkers for a long time
lost pumice
To the point it's almost not worth pathing through 2 of the blitzes
muted pike
Zealot arguably has the best variety
ashen pier
Well, considering how Veteran is in the dirt
muted pike
Plenty of viable guns and melees
ashen pier
You have a big point
plush estuary
Zealot tree easily makes every melee weapon highly viable
muted pike
Vet isnt in the dirt is the thing
ashen pier
Regarding weapon variety? Or at least exclusives?
muted pike
Oh, weapon variety? Vet is dirt
ashen pier
Plasma is good, really good, but it's like the only one they have apart from the lucius lasgun
And the latter is bad, because plasma gun overshadows any ranged weapon unless its hordes
muted pike
Zealot's kit is by far and away the least fluid kit of all 4 classes
lost pumice
With ranged we got the bolt weapons, the revolver and the flamer. Brauto is good from what I hear. I might be forgetting some
ashen pier
The tknives
The knives are kinda funny, give you instant bolter too, so they get you unstuck in bad circumstances
muted pike
Vet's gameplay is pretty seemless between tossing nades, picking off enemies from range, and killing stuff in melee
Flows very naturally
ashen pier
Vet's gameplay is pretty seemless between tossing nades, picking off enemies fro...
It's a pretty funny one when you get into building it
muted pike
Same argument can be made for psyker
ashen pier
Although with the Zealot, I'm finding myself using the same two melee weapons
Either the evisecrator or the relic sword
muted pike
Crusher is amazing, and chastise+op nodes can make an melee work
ashen pier
Crusher is amazing, and chastise+op nodes can make an melee work
Oh the crusher?
Damn I forgot about that precious thing
Damn funny too smacking things into oblivion
Fast too, scary fast
muted pike
The 1st issue I'd like to see fixed with Zealot is I want to see the other 2 blitzes flow with the kit the way tknives do
lost pumice
Yeah I'm s bolt rifle guy
ashen pier
Yeah I'm s bolt rifle guy
Same
And the sway is still ass, I would love seeing it having more damage too - especially with Bulwarks
It should be at least one level down of the plasma gun, not a worse revolver
lost pumice
The reload and switch speed it not great either. But balance I guess
muted pike
Like, Vet and Psyker have a variety of nodes that allow them to lean into their blitzes... the same should be true for Zealot. Right now they can use their tknives liberally, but the other nades are p much gone once used
ashen pier
The reload and switch speed it not great either. But balance I guess
The reload and switch speed can stay the same
But the damage needs to be buffed, the explosive one too - and the stagger
muted pike
I feel like Zealot should have nodes that allow them to make the most of their nades
Because atm the nades are good in a vacuum... but the kit of Zealot doesnt support their usage at all
ashen pier
I feel like Zealot should have nodes that allow them to make the most of their n...
I mean, the flashbang should be buffed more, and the immolation is excellent for AoE and horde control, they should just push them even more
muted pike
The thing is you have no way to get them back
Unlike Psyker and Vet
Which leaves them feeling unsupported
maiden forge
I think if the nade regen restored throwing knives zealot would be the most powerful class in the entire game
muted pike
You get MAYBE a handful of nades per game
muted pike
Like, even if there were nodes that buffed the shit out of nades... youre extremely limited in terms of actually using them
That should change
maiden forge
For each elite killed you get a knife
Yeah but like mortis trials game mode means I restore one single knife every 20
Secconds
muted pike
Ignore mortis trials
maiden forge
Like isn’t that just the most hottest thing ever
ashen pier
Like isn’t that just the most hottest thing ever
Are you actually saying that?
maiden forge
Yeah I did
ashen pier
When you get almost instant knife with so many things around
muted pike
Yeah, tknife regen is fine. Other blitzes are extremely limited, which is a problem
I don't think it'd be too much to ask to get like 1 nade a minute like Vet.
Or attach the regen of nades to melee kills or something
lost pumice
Even with it's problems zealot is still my favorite class to play most days. Other days it's psyker
maiden forge
Ok perfect balance to fix that issue ur having
ashen pier
Even with it's problems zealot is still my favorite class to play most days. Oth...
Psyker, Zealot and Veteran I play
maiden forge
Every demon host killed restored the ogryns grenades
ashen pier
Ogryn...eh...Ogryn is 'too slow' for my caffeine fueled brain
ashen pier
I worn out mine
Mine is Colombian
So yes, it has been upgraded by giving me since I was 5 coffee, and espresso kind of coffee
lost pumice
I play zealot psyker and I just started ogryn
ashen pier
I play zealot psyker and I just started ogryn
I have never been able to enjoy ogryn
maiden forge
Buff ogryn grenade understood
maiden forge
Fr ogryn dueling sword
lost pumice
I want ogryn to have a bolt rifle
maiden forge
(It’s a massive lead pipe)
lost pumice
The cleaver is almost like a way slower knife zealot
maiden forge
I want ogryn to have a bolt rifle
Ogryn bolt action gun
ashen pier
I want ogryn to have a bolt rifle
Give my boy an autocannon - literally a 30mm autocannon
maiden forge
Closest we can work with is the 12.7mm stubber
ashen pier
Closest we can work with is the 12.7mm stubber
That doesn't work
We need to give him AC 130 treatment
maiden forge
He would crash the ac130
ashen pier
And eat all of the food
maiden forge
Bold of you to assume he’d eat the food after crashing the ac130
lost pumice
Ogryn after the rework is better than before. I couldn't get into it earlier
maiden forge
still not playing ogryn on main till he gets a weapon befitting of him
ashen pier
<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090> still not playing ogryn on main till he gets a w...
Same
maiden forge
Knuckle
His fist if you will
If he were to have brass nuckles or something that would nerf his damage
ashen pier
His slap should actually kill a pox in one slap
Or crumple flak armor
In my opinion
visual stream
Chat which indulgence tree is the vet grenade spam in
visual stream
Oh it's a non-class indulgence okay
maiden forge
We mainly talk zealot here but still talk about other shit as well
Like how psykers are complete bumbling buffoons who keep exploding because the perils of the warp overtake them
ashen pier
Like how psykers are complete bumbling buffoons who keep exploding because the p...
I feel very offended
I only explode once per game
maiden forge
At least blow up in the enemies face smh
maiden forge
What are you some kind of suicide squad?
Like the dc movie
That flopped
With psyker letos joker
ashen pier
With psyker letos joker
Nah
The Psyker in Suicide Squad would never happen
Give him a better place
maiden forge
lost pumice
His slap should actually kill a pox in one slap
The punch and slap is a lot better now.
ashen pier
The punch and slap is a lot better now.
I need them better
lost pumice
I saw apparently an all slap run is viable now. Idk how true that is. But that would be funny
ashen pier
I saw apparently an all slap run is viable now. Idk how true that is. But that w...
I mean, it is still pretty good for going against bosses
maiden forge
misty ravine
A Warhammer some would say
My favorite part was when Sigmar gathered all 40,000 War Hammers and said "It's Hammer Time"
ashen pier
You shall become John Warhammer with such power
lost pumice
Maybe like 39,000 of them
maiden forge
Say that again
maiden forge
Probably a good amount
And no it won’t ever get old
We thrive off knowing that the emperor having text to speech being accurate within the 39th millennium
ashen pier
We thrive off knowing that the emperor having text to speech being accurate with...
The entire Warhammer community thrives on old jokes
misty ravine
The entire Warhammer community thrives on old jokes
Dawn of War 1 references from literally 20 years ago
maiden forge
What isn’t funny then making the warhammer joke in the warhammer community fr
ashen pier
What isn’t funny then making the warhammer joke in the warhammer community fr
Just making fun on the Eldars
Those poor guys are so miserable it's not funny anymore
The wraithbone thing is outrageous already
maiden forge
Anyways when will inquisitor grey fax and saint Celestine make out with each other in darktide credits
And then saint celestine dies and gets taken to the other side of the galaxy
ashen pier
But they also made the Ynnari a weird forgotten faction (I hate how Eldar are written ngl)
maiden forge
Soloing tyranids
Epic gay love story between Celestine and greyfax trust me gw it’s grim dark
ashen pier
Epic gay love story between Celestine and greyfax trust me gw it’s grim dark
So
We're doing a Honkai then?
The power of useless lesbians shall save the universe?
misty ravine
But they also made the Ynnari a weird forgotten faction (I hate how Eldar are wr...
8th edition and its consequences have been a disaster for the Warhammer 40k
ashen pier
8th edition and its consequences have been a disaster for the Warhammer 40k
More like I really want to firebomb the damn GW offices
Because damn give me good Eldar shit
Yes I'm an elf simp, but not at the levels of PancreasNoWork
maiden forge
I hate eldar
ashen pier
That dude would go all gay with Eldrad or Teclis or Tyrion
maiden forge
(Has yrilliet constantly in the party)
ashen pier
I hate eldar
Hm...at least you like Dwarves?
maiden forge
No I hate dwarves
They got 3 lines of lore
I can quote you the lines as well
It goes
maiden forge
I Am a dwarf and I’m digging a hole
ashen pier
Grudge
maiden forge
Diggy diggy hole
ashen pier
I fell
misty ravine
maiden forge
Anyways back onto real topics worth conversations
Sister of battle game when
And secret ending is saint Celestine boops greyfax on the cheek
ashen pier
And secret ending is saint Celestine boops greyfax on the cheek
Greyfax? Nah, Celestine gets her harem of SoB and they conquer the galaxy in the name of the emperor by sheer lesbian power
lost pumice
Sister of battle game when
You can control a sister of battle in rogue trader which is neat. That's the closest thing
ashen pier
Call it honkai impact 40k
And I can assume the Emperor of Mankind is in reality a giant HOMU?
maiden forge
You can control a sister of battle in rogue trader which is neat. That's the clo...
I’m aware but I can’t romance her so I’m killing
My self naturally
After Im done fixing my empire
Dude the von valancius dynasty has it rough
They don’t get to party and do all that jazz nah it’s just all the forces of chaos trying to ruin that particular dynasty of rogue traders
ashen pier
They don’t get to party and do all that jazz nah it’s just all the forces of cha...
They should just stop trying to be around Henrix
I'm saying he's the problem
maiden forge
Nah henrix is chill imo
ashen pier
More SoB's and let the lesbianism spread
ashen pier
That’s just my iconoclast ass speaking personally
I played iconoclast too, best route in my opinion
maiden forge
Pity him the entire time
Wait until I get the compliment option to his ass oh he’s fucked when I do that
Anyways why can’t I marry Abelard smh
lost pumice
I’m aware but I can’t romance her so I’m killing
My self naturally
They fumbled massively not letting us romance her
muted pike
How is Crucis Thammer?
maiden forge
They fumbled massively not letting us romance her
10/10 game but no wife option for argenta 1/10